Loved all your reviews this year. Straight out of the crate, the RE 450 is my choice, having ridden both. I need an adventure/ green lane/touring bike with good dealer back up and no gremlins! Keep up the great reviews.
@markjacobs3956 I literally just came from the triumph dealership today and they said they have had no issues with it, can't keep them in and sell them faster than hotcakes. Aside from the problem with the security light staying on what exactly has been the issue that has "stopped sales" in USA? also I have over 7k miles on mine and have had no issues whatsoever. even still have the factory brake rotors on the front. and i take mine offroad on trails every week.
I have a 400x...I beat the snot out of it on local Jeep trails and it does just fine, but I slapped a 15 tooth front sprocket on it so I could take some longer highway trips and keep the front wheel down. It has a tendency to want to loop if you go over a hill on the throttle, even at 60-70MPH...hoping this takes a bit of torque out of it. If I don't like it I can always swap the 14 back on in about 35 min or so, it's not a hard thing to change. Over 3000 miles on mine, and aside from a little "normal" valve noise when it warms up I don't have a bad thing to say about it. If nothing else, it's a good bike which is able to be lightly modified to do just about anything, and for me that's really cool.
I really liked the 400x when I test rode it in July this year, and wanted to go further than the dealer would allow. I found it willing (c'mon) attitiude and great handling, but really did not want to spend 6000k here in Spain. It was also a bit noisy for me! I then rode a Voge ac525x and also liked it, and found it relaxing!! But again...I found it noisy!...So I found a Scram 411 with 600km on the clock and rode it on the same route as the triumph. Apart from the power difference it was just as enjoyable and it was a lot quieter. It has introduced me to some off road tracks and encourages me to explore, which is something I have never done before. It does not Intimidate me and I think It's beautiful to look at and makes a nice 'pop pop' sound coming down the mountain. it now sits in my lower workshop and is the right choice for me at present! I'm 63 and It's given me a new lease of life after my heart attack. Thanks Nathan for your no nonsense style. Have a great 2025.
Thanks for the review, very informative and helpfull. I bought the 400X in November, I like it it mainly because of the engine and use in the New Forest and Purbeck where the roads can't be described as off road rather of varying quality in terms of the surface. I agree about the tyres, they don't feel secure on roads that are chewed or rutted. Not sure of what to get to replace them. The only problems I've had was the engine cutting out when changing from 5th to 4th when running in. Not happened since. The other issue was with the instrument dash that lets in water in heavy rain. It will be replaced next week. It is quite a tall bike but I can flat foot it and stand proud when for example waiting at traffic lights. One thing I've never had a bike that I can ride at very slow speeds 1 to 2mph. Overall I like it and plan to keep it
This bike is the top of my wish list ! I test rode one and loved it, in the end i went with a 5 year old Fantic Caballero ( wich i also love ) because of the cost savings, but i can see me getting a Triumph in the future . In that colour with the gold wheels looks awesome!
Great video, and I hope you go from strength to strength in 2025 you deserve it, putting in a lot of work. I did like the Triumph, just like really. For me it wasn't much better than my Guzzi V7 apart from the off road potential with the ground clearance. It does worry me about the short supply of Triumph parts at the moment, but all in all a competant bike.
Hey Nate, great videos. Loved the Iceland series as well. I, too, am a 400X owner, and every time i ride it, it brings a smile to my face. I have some questions, if you don't mind. - have you changed the chain and sproket set on your bike? The color looks different. - What is the chain slack you keep on your bike? I'm asking here as the owner's manual does not specify this. -Do you use the stock organic brake pads? Or have you changed to sintered? I personally have gotten used to the stock organic pads. Would you suggest i stick to these considering i do like to occassionaly go soft/off roading. Thanks. Best wishes
Hi het. Yes I forgot to mention it in the video but the chain was also looking pretty stretched at 800 miles so before I went to Iceland John at rally raid also put a heavy duty DID X ring chain on. Original sprockets tho. For the slack I just use a bit of a guesstimate. Not too tight. Not too slack. Probably about 20mm at a guess. I'm surprised triumph hasn't published it in the manual
At real world UK road speeds, on the back roads and B roads, you proved to me that all of the bikes on your fleet can be fun and engaging with max 40bhp. You really don’t need big power on these roads. Yes the low torque on my Multistrada is nice when touring fully loaded and two up, and it may make long motorway stints more bearable if we have time constraints. But one up on any single carriageway roads, these 40bhp machines are brilliant fun, they are much lighter than a 1200cc something, easier to manhandle, and have easily enough performance. I’ve said it before, my head says CF Moto 450 MT but my heart says Triumph 400 X, I would just want to ride all the time!
I rode it in April down with you on a wet horrible day. ( does the sun ever shine in Devon?) I liked the engine as you say the highlight of the bike. For the lanes the CCM was my favourite but unsurprisingly I voted for the Himalayan 411 ( was prior to the CF Moto and 452 on your fleet but I'd maybe have favoured the CF now I've ridden one but for cheap adventure i still think the old 411 is the one to beat ! Nice review and I look forward to the rest of the bikes getting a recap.
Nathan, when saying it is fairly tall, it would help if you said how tall you are, what your inside leg is and show you sitting on the bike with your feet down. Might give people an idea of how the bike would suit them when either coming to your shop or buying one 😊 Great review as always, you are probably the best person to watch when considering a smaller capacity bike. I have the 800MT and find your 450MT reviews fascinating. I may look to swap to the 450 at some point!
Nathan I have a 400 X I love it I don’t take it off road i just like the stance as a road bike i have 3500k on it now a 8 months old immobiliser light is a bit of an ocd thing with me but before i go out switch the ignition on twice let it do a full sweep and same again for a third time then start and the immobiliser then stays off then I can start as normal without ant issues I wont be selling it anytime soon as its too much fun and it’s comfortable for me. I agree the engine is always willing no matter what you ask of it 😊
I do. I have bought it as a commuter. It has held up well so far. I went for the X as it seemed more stable, has more street presence and a taller bike ( I am 6ft2) so appreciate the space. .A fun ride., but safe and predictable. Have had no issues with mine at all, although Ichanged the chain as soon as I had it as it didn't look up to the job. I would do long rides on it if I didn't have anything else as it is very comfy. Motorway cruising is not an issue as that is not how you see the world.
In standard form this scrambler looks way better than the Speed. I saw one of each in Chiang Rai. Underwhelmed by the Speed. The X impressed me. Two thousand plus added to the bike makes it rather expensive. Its lack of durability would stop me buying one. Anyway, I'm thinking of buying a CRF300L. Good video, Nathan. Nick
I liked the triumph Nathan but living on an island with no dealer is a little worrying with the electrical faults that would be costly to put right as I’d have to ship it to the next island to get it fixed, and that goes for servicing as well. Shame as it’s a great looking bike. Better looking than my 390 Adv I had. FYI. I sold the ktm because of KTM administration issue and as the bike was still under warranty, I didn’t want to be left with a bike I would have to pay for if it broke during its warranty period. Shame as that was a great bike for back road use to.
Had my 400X since March this year, now done 3500 miles, 2100 of that was riding to Frankfurt and back in 5 days for a charity ride. Was glad of the Airtecs seat i fitted but other than that, the bike did really well and was happy enough at 75/80. it would do 85+ down the autobahn but is getting quite buzzy at that speed and is flat out at 95 but that’s not really what it’s designed for. That said, as you have mentioned, it covers a lot of bases albeit not perfect at any of them. I do find it better all round compared the G310GS i had before and the CRF250L i had before that (on road) - More power than both and the seat and tank range is better than both..shame the 310GS doesn’t have the Triumphs engine! I’m very interested in the new KTM 390 Adventure R when it comes out next year, i could be tempted to change it for one of those as i think it could cover its downfalls better, but it also depends on how that stacks up against the CFMoto 450 which i do quite like. I find the standard gearing about right for slower speed off road adventures which aren’t its forte but it can do them. I fitted Anakee Wilds to mine for off road but i have to say, i’ve never really had any major issue with the karoo streets on the road in the wet or dry but agree, they can tram line at times. Great review !
In Rally Raid format it looks great. But to spend 2k to get it there is a no, because CF, R.E. and Reiju for example are already good to go. Plus it's not a 2up bike. The previius 3 i mentioned, are. Management travels a lot with me, so this is important. 40hp is plenty for 2 if you pick the right route. Wouldn't ho back to bigger. But the Triumph did surprise me. Good bike. Ride safe 👍
I guess you're really only talking £500 for the shock unless you're keen for the wheels.I guess the Triumph's a different type of bike for a different type of person to the CF, RE, Rieju. For faffing around close to home rather than the big trips.
The Speed 400 with the 16T front sprocket transforms it on the road and makes it far more capable for that purpose. I've travelled to both France and Germany on my Speed, with camping gear, and found it handled the faster roads with the 16T conversion very well. I'm aware the 400 Speed is somewhat different to the X.
Hey, I'm in the market for one. Comparing different bikes and weights in this engine class. Do you think Crashbars are neccessary? Or could I happily avoid them? Don't like the looks and kinda wanna avoid the extra weight. Thinking about a proper bashplate and handguards instead.
It'll be a good bike for you if it's strengths closely match your priorities. I had a deposit down and then withdrew from the sale because on the test ride, it didn't ride like i hoped it would. Don't buy on looks alone guys.
I bought one in May this year, to use on road only. I had a test ride and enjoyed riding the bike enough to order one, I wish I'd had an all day ride. I sold it after 5 months because I couldn't live with the rear suspension and the exhaust. I mainly ride lanes and B roads and many are bumpy as they get patched rather than resurfaced. I rode it round Llyn Brianne once only because my body took such a battering. That's one of my favourite roads, as is the Aberystwyth Mountain Road from Rhayader to Devil's Bridge - another road I only took the 400X on twice. I bought the bike as a possible replacement for my CRF250L (only used on road) and I'm glad I kept the CRF250L as I find it a much nicer bike to ride. However, I couldn't use the 400X on long rides because of the racket from the silencer. The drone was very tiring after an hour or so the bike was relegated to short (50 miles or so) rides on good road surfaces - mostly A roads. In October I stood in my garage and looked at the 4 bikes and asked 'which one do I least like riding'? I sold the 400X as I preferred riding my CRF or one of my two 125s. I agree I could have spent £500 on the rear shock but that wouldn't have cured the racket. As you said the tyres are very poor, tracking tramlines from new. I wasn't willing to scrap a pair of new tyres though. The star of the bike is the engine, so tractable, if only it was fitted in a chassis more suited to all day rides on any road surface (touring for example). I did raise the gearing by 1 tooth as it was only used on the road and I found I could leave it in 5th a lot of the time rather than go up and down the gearbox as I have to with my CRF250L. I think the finish is good and the bike can be described as handsome. I tried to source a centre stand so I could lube the chain easily, no one makes one and the German company (Motec) say it's not possible to make a main stand for it.
@@logangodofcandy perhaps read his comment again. He found the exhaust tiresome and the suspension setup not to his liking. I found the suspension poor too, though found the front the main issue for me which is why i didn't buy it.
@@logangodofcandywhat would classify as a real bike then by your standards? A 240kgs 2 cyl beast? Perhaps a 250 2 stroke mx? A 1000cc SS? "Real bike", stfu man
I’m curious about how it stacks up against the Fantic 500 scrambler. Not the Rally, but the standard scrambler. Never found mine ‘fluffy’ it’s a very strong engine off the bottom, runs out of puff after 65 - although I’ve seen 100mph on the clock going uphill on a long straight but wouldn’t want to hang out there.
Much the same as the Rally really. Fantic a bit more uncouth. Triumph more refined and better value. I think you buy the Fanctic because you want something different/Italian.
@ It was really the only option at the time for a small, exciting bike with a traditional look. The alternative was the 390 Duke but I never liked that style. Yes, I agree, uncouth, it’s raw, that’s really why I like it so much. As I now own 3 bikes (how the heck did that happen), I’d considered getting rid of the Fantic because the Aprilia 660 does for longer journeys and the Serrow for Green lanes/winter. I took the Fantic out and compared to both bikes, it was just so much nutty fun, a right hooligan and I wonder if the new one will swap rawness for sophistication and lose the crazy fun element.
After seeing what happened to @TDubsKid Triumph 400, it's a noooo thank you from me. (Poor guy dropped his triumph ONCE at low speed and broke the immobilizer, stranded him in the woods at night and cost over $1,000 to fix!)
I just don't understand why any manufacturer would sell a scrambler or classic looking bike without spoked rims... What a shame , so i have to spend 1,500 euro extra on top off the already high price 6.800 euro 😅 I'm maybe better off buying a fantic caballero 500?Also looks great and i cant seem to find a lot off reliability issues online...
Does this mean yesr end reviews of all the 400s? :D Its a nice looking bike, but I think triumph need to get the details down for the price. Unfortunately theyre falling towards a Harley model but still with the classic British bike issues. Small but mighty gremlins which are easy to fix with the right parts.... Just not available or shouldn't meed replacing at that interval. Then again, if you buy a british bike you know what youre getting into.
Reliability and durability issues sound like a deal breaker to me. A warped brake disc at 800 miles? Bad stock tyre? Short geared? Bad suspension? It is a beautiful machine, good engine but too many issues.
You lost me at £2500 to “make it better” than a string of bloody warranty issues. At least triumph will fix that rather than sticking their head in the sand, al la KTM😂
I suspect that if you’re looking for this sort of bike (light dual sport/adventure) you’re going to spent 1-2k to make it better regardless of the bike, unless you get a used one someone has already spent that money on. OEM suspension on most (if not all) bikes in that category is kind of rubbish, just for starters.
It really does look good, and (plus?) it looks like a Triumph, though those RR wheels make it much better looking. Thanks Nathan, and (when it comes) Happy New Year! Les
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Loved all your reviews this year. Straight out of the crate, the RE 450 is my choice, having ridden both. I need an adventure/ green lane/touring bike with good dealer back up and no gremlins! Keep up the great reviews.
Thanks mark. yes I imagine the Himalayan is perfect for what you want from a bike. All the best to you
I help at a Triumph shop. They've been a nightmare with electrical issues to the point of Stop Sale in the States.
Yeah real shame that
@markjacobs3956 I literally just came from the triumph dealership today and they said they have had no issues with it, can't keep them in and sell them faster than hotcakes. Aside from the problem with the security light staying on what exactly has been the issue that has "stopped sales" in USA? also I have over 7k miles on mine and have had no issues whatsoever. even still have the factory brake rotors on the front. and i take mine offroad on trails every week.
I have a 400x...I beat the snot out of it on local Jeep trails and it does just fine, but I slapped a 15 tooth front sprocket on it so I could take some longer highway trips and keep the front wheel down. It has a tendency to want to loop if you go over a hill on the throttle, even at 60-70MPH...hoping this takes a bit of torque out of it. If I don't like it I can always swap the 14 back on in about 35 min or so, it's not a hard thing to change. Over 3000 miles on mine, and aside from a little "normal" valve noise when it warms up I don't have a bad thing to say about it. If nothing else, it's a good bike which is able to be lightly modified to do just about anything, and for me that's really cool.
Good interesting review. I have no intention of buying one but saw one on the M3 a while ago and thought it was a great looking bike.
I really liked the 400x when I test rode it in July this year, and wanted to go further than the dealer would allow. I found it willing (c'mon) attitiude and great handling, but really did not want to spend 6000k here in Spain. It was also a bit noisy for me! I then rode a Voge ac525x and also liked it, and found it relaxing!! But again...I found it noisy!...So I found a Scram 411 with 600km on the clock and rode it on the same route as the triumph. Apart from the power difference it was just as enjoyable and it was a lot quieter. It has introduced me to some off road tracks and encourages me to explore, which is something I have never done before. It does not Intimidate me and I think It's beautiful to look at and makes a nice 'pop pop' sound coming down the mountain. it now sits in my lower workshop and is the right choice for me at present! I'm 63 and It's given me a new lease of life after my heart attack.
Thanks Nathan for your no nonsense style. Have a great 2025.
Thanks man. You have a good one two and enjoy the Scram! Great machines!
Thanks for the review, very informative and helpfull. I bought the 400X in November, I like it it mainly because of the engine and use in the New Forest and Purbeck where the roads can't be described as off road rather of varying quality in terms of the surface. I agree about the tyres, they don't feel secure on roads that are chewed or rutted. Not sure of what to get to replace them. The only problems I've had was the engine cutting out when changing from 5th to 4th when running in. Not happened since. The other issue was with the instrument dash that lets in water in heavy rain. It will be replaced next week. It is quite a tall bike but I can flat foot it and stand proud when for example waiting at traffic lights. One thing I've never had a bike that I can ride at very slow speeds 1 to 2mph. Overall I like it and plan to keep it
This bike is the top of my wish list ! I test rode one and loved it, in the end i went with a 5 year old Fantic Caballero ( wich i also love ) because of the cost savings, but i can see me getting a Triumph in the future . In that colour with the gold wheels looks awesome!
I'd rather have the Caballero. My favourite bike in the 350/450 class.
Great video, and I hope you go from strength to strength in 2025 you deserve it, putting in a lot of work. I did like the Triumph, just like really. For me it wasn't much better than my Guzzi V7 apart from the off road potential with the ground clearance. It does worry me about the short supply of Triumph parts at the moment, but all in all a competant bike.
Hey Nate, great videos. Loved the Iceland series as well. I, too, am a 400X owner, and every time i ride it, it brings a smile to my face. I have some questions, if you don't mind.
- have you changed the chain and sproket set on your bike? The color looks different.
- What is the chain slack you keep on your bike? I'm asking here as the owner's manual does not specify this.
-Do you use the stock organic brake pads? Or have you changed to sintered? I personally have gotten used to the stock organic pads. Would you suggest i stick to these considering i do like to occassionaly go soft/off roading.
Thanks. Best wishes
Hi het. Yes I forgot to mention it in the video but the chain was also looking pretty stretched at 800 miles so before I went to Iceland John at rally raid also put a heavy duty DID X ring chain on. Original sprockets tho. For the slack I just use a bit of a guesstimate. Not too tight. Not too slack. Probably about 20mm at a guess. I'm surprised triumph hasn't published it in the manual
At real world UK road speeds, on the back roads and B roads, you proved to me that all of the bikes on your fleet can be fun and engaging with max 40bhp. You really don’t need big power on these roads. Yes the low torque on my Multistrada is nice when touring fully loaded and two up, and it may make long motorway stints more bearable if we have time constraints. But one up on any single carriageway roads, these 40bhp machines are brilliant fun, they are much lighter than a 1200cc something, easier to manhandle, and have easily enough performance. I’ve said it before, my head says CF Moto 450 MT but my heart says Triumph 400 X, I would just want to ride all the time!
I rode it in April down with you on a wet horrible day. ( does the sun ever shine in Devon?) I liked the engine as you say the highlight of the bike. For the lanes the CCM was my favourite but unsurprisingly I voted for the Himalayan 411 ( was prior to the CF Moto and 452 on your fleet but I'd maybe have favoured the CF now I've ridden one but for cheap adventure i still think the old 411 is the one to beat ! Nice review and I look forward to the rest of the bikes getting a recap.
Nathan, when saying it is fairly tall, it would help if you said how tall you are, what your inside leg is and show you sitting on the bike with your feet down. Might give people an idea of how the bike would suit them when either coming to your shop or buying one 😊 Great review as always, you are probably the best person to watch when considering a smaller capacity bike. I have the 800MT and find your 450MT reviews fascinating. I may look to swap to the 450 at some point!
I am 5’ 8” and I am on my tip toes. Hope this helps.
Good point Nicky. I'm 5'9" - 5'10 in my boots. Haven't a clue on my inseam. Maybe 32 I think
Bought the speed 400(have others) changed the sprockets...love it...
Great real world review mate
Nathan I have a 400 X I love it I don’t take it off road i just like the stance as a road bike i have 3500k on it now a 8 months old immobiliser light is a bit of an ocd thing with me but before i go out switch the ignition on twice let it do a full sweep and same again for a third time then start and the immobiliser then stays off then I can start as normal without ant issues I wont be selling it anytime soon as its too much fun and it’s comfortable for me. I agree the engine is always willing no matter what you ask of it 😊
I do. I have bought it as a commuter. It has held up well so far. I went for the X as it seemed more stable, has more street presence and a taller bike ( I am 6ft2) so appreciate the space. .A fun ride., but safe and predictable. Have had no issues with mine at all, although Ichanged the chain as soon as I had it as it didn't look up to the job. I would do long rides on it if I didn't have anything else as it is very comfy. Motorway cruising is not an issue as that is not how you see the world.
I haven't watched it yet, but I assume the answer is yes, definitely! Wicked little bike.
Nathan- the 2025 Fabric Caballero Rally will come with 21 inch front wheel! Due to arrive in UK in March
Yes, keen to see the price on that.
@@nathanthepostman I've been told by a dealer that it's the same as the current model... £7200 RRP
Thnx mate
In standard form this scrambler looks way better than the Speed. I saw one of each in Chiang Rai. Underwhelmed by the Speed. The X impressed me. Two thousand plus added to the bike makes it rather expensive. Its lack of durability would stop me buying one. Anyway, I'm thinking of buying a CRF300L.
Good video, Nathan. Nick
excellent Nathan, thanks
I liked the triumph Nathan but living on an island with no dealer is a little worrying with the electrical faults that would be costly to put right as I’d have to ship it to the next island to get it fixed, and that goes for servicing as well. Shame as it’s a great looking bike. Better looking than my 390 Adv I had. FYI. I sold the ktm because of KTM administration issue and as the bike was still under warranty, I didn’t want to be left with a bike I would have to pay for if it broke during its warranty period. Shame as that was a great bike for back road use to.
Interesting to get your thoughts on this bike. Do you plan on fitting Rally Raids front suspension kit at some point ?
Probably not. I like the bike now and the forks are a thousand pounds, so probably stick at the rear shock
Had my 400X since March this year, now done 3500 miles, 2100 of that was riding to Frankfurt and back in 5 days for a charity ride. Was glad of the Airtecs seat i fitted but other than that, the bike did really well and was happy enough at 75/80. it would do 85+ down the autobahn but is getting quite buzzy at that speed and is flat out at 95 but that’s not really what it’s designed for. That said, as you have mentioned, it covers a lot of bases albeit not perfect at any of them.
I do find it better all round compared the G310GS i had before and the CRF250L i had before that (on road) - More power than both and the seat and tank range is better than both..shame the 310GS doesn’t have the Triumphs engine!
I’m very interested in the new KTM 390 Adventure R when it comes out next year, i could be tempted to change it for one of those as i think it could cover its downfalls better, but it also depends on how that stacks up against the CFMoto 450 which i do quite like. I find the standard gearing about right for slower speed off road adventures which aren’t its forte but it can do them. I fitted Anakee Wilds to mine for off road but i have to say, i’ve never really had any major issue with the karoo streets on the road in the wet or dry but agree, they can tram line at times.
Great review !
In Rally Raid format it looks great. But to spend 2k to get it there is a no, because CF, R.E. and Reiju for example are already good to go.
Plus it's not a 2up bike. The previius 3 i mentioned, are.
Management travels a lot with me, so this is important.
40hp is plenty for 2 if you pick the right route. Wouldn't ho back to bigger.
But the Triumph did surprise me. Good bike.
Ride safe 👍
I guess you're really only talking £500 for the shock unless you're keen for the wheels.I guess the Triumph's a different type of bike for a different type of person to the CF, RE, Rieju. For faffing around close to home rather than the big trips.
Can’t fault mine been very surprised with it
The Speed 400 with the 16T front sprocket transforms it on the road and makes it far more capable for that purpose. I've travelled to both France and Germany on my Speed, with camping gear, and found it handled the faster roads with the 16T conversion very well. I'm aware the 400 Speed is somewhat different to the X.
Great to hear veg. Some big miles you've racked up there
Maaan you are the best reviewer i believe. Keep going.
Hey, I'm in the market for one. Comparing different bikes and weights in this engine class. Do you think Crashbars are neccessary? Or could I happily avoid them? Don't like the looks and kinda wanna avoid the extra weight. Thinking about a proper bashplate and handguards instead.
Yeah handguards and bashplate is what I'd go for. Mine dropped ok on the pavement, just a few scuffs to the exhaust and brake lever
Sgt Bentos strikes again with a serving of no nonsense pie. I hope to ride one next year, when the snow melts.......
Haha. Turkey bentos pie on Christmas day was divine!
It'll be a good bike for you if it's strengths closely match your priorities. I had a deposit down and then withdrew from the sale because on the test ride, it didn't ride like i hoped it would. Don't buy on looks alone guys.
I bought one in May this year, to use on road only. I had a test ride and enjoyed riding the bike enough to order one, I wish I'd had an all day ride. I sold it after 5 months because I couldn't live with the rear suspension and the exhaust. I mainly ride lanes and B roads and many are bumpy as they get patched rather than resurfaced. I rode it round Llyn Brianne once only because my body took such a battering. That's one of my favourite roads, as is the Aberystwyth Mountain Road from Rhayader to Devil's Bridge - another road I only took the 400X on twice. I bought the bike as a possible replacement for my CRF250L (only used on road) and I'm glad I kept the CRF250L as I find it a much nicer bike to ride. However, I couldn't use the 400X on long rides because of the racket from the silencer. The drone was very tiring after an hour or so the bike was relegated to short (50 miles or so) rides on good road surfaces - mostly A roads.
In October I stood in my garage and looked at the 4 bikes and asked 'which one do I least like riding'? I sold the 400X as I preferred riding my CRF or one of my two 125s. I agree I could have spent £500 on the rear shock but that wouldn't have cured the racket. As you said the tyres are very poor, tracking tramlines from new. I wasn't willing to scrap a pair of new tyres though.
The star of the bike is the engine, so tractable, if only it was fitted in a chassis more suited to all day rides on any road surface (touring for example). I did raise the gearing by 1 tooth as it was only used on the road and I found I could leave it in 5th a lot of the time rather than go up and down the gearbox as I have to with my CRF250L. I think the finish is good and the bike can be described as handsome.
I tried to source a centre stand so I could lube the chain easily, no one makes one and the German company (Motec) say it's not possible to make a main stand for it.
So, you had one almost real bike, and you decided to keep the baby bikes. I feel like a 400 single isn't what you needed
@@logangodofcandy perhaps read his comment again. He found the exhaust tiresome and the suspension setup not to his liking. I found the suspension poor too, though found the front the main issue for me which is why i didn't buy it.
@@logangodofcandywhat would classify as a real bike then by your standards? A 240kgs 2 cyl beast? Perhaps a 250 2 stroke mx? A 1000cc SS? "Real bike", stfu man
A shelf full of parcels...the postman who doesn't deliver...Merry Christmas 😂
Haha. Late with the delivery this year!
😂
I’m curious about how it stacks up against the Fantic 500 scrambler. Not the Rally, but the standard scrambler. Never found mine ‘fluffy’ it’s a very strong engine off the bottom, runs out of puff after 65 - although I’ve seen 100mph on the clock going uphill on a long straight but wouldn’t want to hang out there.
Much the same as the Rally really. Fantic a bit more uncouth. Triumph more refined and better value. I think you buy the Fanctic because you want something different/Italian.
@ It was really the only option at the time for a small, exciting bike with a traditional look. The alternative was the 390 Duke but I never liked that style. Yes, I agree, uncouth, it’s raw, that’s really why I like it so much. As I now own 3 bikes (how the heck did that happen), I’d considered getting rid of the Fantic because the Aprilia 660 does for longer journeys and the Serrow for Green lanes/winter. I took the Fantic out and compared to both bikes, it was just so much nutty fun, a right hooligan and I wonder if the new one will swap rawness for sophistication and lose the crazy fun element.
After seeing what happened to @TDubsKid Triumph 400, it's a noooo thank you from me.
(Poor guy dropped his triumph ONCE at low speed and broke the immobilizer, stranded him in the woods at night and cost over $1,000 to fix!)
What's the most universally liked bike on the fleet Nathan?
CF moto comes out top but not everyone liked it. Triumph didn't top so many votes but scored well consistently, often ranked 2nd or 3rd
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Cheers. Shame they're in short supply.😫
I just don't understand why any manufacturer would sell a scrambler or classic looking bike without spoked rims... What a shame , so i have to spend 1,500 euro extra on top off the already high price 6.800 euro 😅
I'm maybe better off buying a fantic caballero 500?Also looks great and i cant seem to find a lot off reliability issues online...
Yeah buy a second hand fantic and save some cash. Good option
Sold mine-the forks were so stiff it nearly crashed me two times that was enough--pity--did 8000km on t and sold it
All of the electrical issues I've seen people have with this bike will keep me from getting one.
Yes I understand that. It's a shame there's some silly gremlins
Looks so much better with the spoked wheels
Does this mean yesr end reviews of all the 400s? :D
Its a nice looking bike, but I think triumph need to get the details down for the price. Unfortunately theyre falling towards a Harley model but still with the classic British bike issues. Small but mighty gremlins which are easy to fix with the right parts.... Just not available or shouldn't meed replacing at that interval.
Then again, if you buy a british bike you know what youre getting into.
Great bike; exact same set up; as far as height: not sure why this is higher than the 900 scrambler…odd.
Reliability and durability issues sound like a deal breaker to me. A warped brake disc at 800 miles? Bad stock tyre? Short geared? Bad suspension? It is a beautiful machine, good engine but too many issues.
Why do you need a "fleet" of bikes?
For people to ride
Because he runs a business
I'd rather have black forks that perform better than gold ones that don't.
You lost me at £2500 to “make it better” than a string of bloody warranty issues. At least triumph will fix that rather than sticking their head in the sand, al la KTM😂
£1500 to make it look more tarty to be fair
I suspect that if you’re looking for this sort of bike (light dual sport/adventure) you’re going to spent 1-2k to make it better regardless of the bike, unless you get a used one someone has already spent that money on. OEM suspension on most (if not all) bikes in that category is kind of rubbish, just for starters.
It really does look good, and (plus?) it looks like a Triumph, though those RR wheels make it much better looking. Thanks Nathan, and (when it comes) Happy New Year! Les
Great bike until a minor crash breaks the key immobilizer. Then you need a tow.
Yep, that one video was a bit of a cold shower.
sound quality crap
Maybe
Sounds okay to me.