GR Anime Review: Log Horizon
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2014
- A Glass Reflection Anime Review of Log Horizon
Originally Released: April 19th 2014
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"People die when they are killed" never gonna forget that
+MRMinni Punchies How dare you to insult one of the best quote of all time :V
If you are killed you lost an important part of your life.
Just because you're correct, doesn't mean you're right.
FPTH he
He should have played a clip from Teen Wolf: "You're killing people! TO DEATH!"
I thought SAO was a fantasy harem anime with the protagonist falling in love with the obvious romance option from the beginning, before succumbing to his Lannister like sexual attraction to his sister. They then become fairies.
HAVE MY LIKES, HAVE ALL OF THEM!
Are you saying that Kirito is a Lannister? That...weirdly makes sense.
That little shit!
"A Lannister always pays his debt" well Kirito you own me for that tentacle rape scene in SAO or rather ALO
This should be the official description for SAO.
Log Horizon has actually earned a spot on my list of most favorite anime.
Dan Unknow Season 2 is good as well?
Dan Unknow I really don't see how. I feel like season 2 isn't quite as good as season one but still pretty good.
Dan Unknow Actually Now that I finished the season, I have to say WTF is wrong with you! Season 2 was Perfect especially the second half.
Dan Unknow May i ask what you didn't like about it?
Dan Unknow Season 2 fell apart but thats just due to how the light novels were, season 3 would be way more action packed due to the light novels picking up.
How many times per episode Shiroe adjusts his glasses?
+Piromysl Take a shot everytime he does, you'll be drunk by episode 2.
+AwarthSGN And in a coma by the time the council episodes finish.
+AwarthSGN Bonus shots for when another character copies him. lol
+Piromyśl all of the times
+Piromyśl Enough to make a three minutes MV about it
/watch?v=g2JPn4Eb8qo
"Have you seen the real world? It's kind of shit!" - Arkada 2014
With no clear objectives or rules yet around seven billion players move as they please.
Ones that have more than others get penalized. The little sister who was now isolated, was isolated because she was smarter than those of her age-- no one could understand her and she was bullied.
Even ones that have less than others get penalized. The older brother, The always smiling brother who always failed, even when scolded by parents or teachers.
--Silence only made one a target to be bullied by others.
--Talking too much made one become alienated by others.
--Being able to read peoples' real intentions too much also made one become alienated by others.
No clear objectives, no parameters, even the genre is unknown.
Ones that do as the rules say are punished, yet ones that ignore the rules are not punished and even look down from their positions as the elite. No game could be compared with this kind of difficult, worst game.
The worlds a shitty game
-Sora & Shiro, No Game No Life
Yuki Fubuki Haha, I was hoping that someone had commented with this. Also a very interesting game based anime. Although the relationship between the main characters makes me wince.
LA666zara why, they arent blood related
also cant really call it game base if they arent really in a game, just a world where a god forbids any acts of violence and the natural answer to any sorta of conflicts is decided by games
Yuki Fubuki Yep, gotta agree with you on that.
Ah, I describe the main characters as the brother and sister. I thought they were related. But even so the relationships in it make me wince from the melodrama. I enjoy it, but I still wince.
Also, I said game based, as they constantly talk about different game mechanics and the world is set up like a game with similar mechanics of it's own.
*SPOILERS*
To be perfectly honest, the immortal ramifications i think were handled fucking greatly. The fact that they were immortal, BUT, if you die then you go back to the real world for a minute, all the while losing memories of the real world. It handles it greatly as it grants them immortality, but they do not want to die. It even shows how it affects people differently as some just stop raiding to make sure they dont suffer again, whilst others literally kamikaze themselves to have another glimpse of their past.
jamal munir Absolutely. And that also, the fact that they were immortal becomes a large factor in causing all the problems faced by the adventurer's new community immerging from the catastrophe, and is a driving force for the early plotlines.
And I just laugh so much when people point to Log Hoizon and say it's not as serious/mature as SAO because people can't die...
903IDFOLEY
You think that's bad? I saw someone call it childish, and said the romance was forced and that SAO's romance was better.....fucking Harem Art Online apparently had better romance, i just had to facepalm.
+jamal munir Kirito has a nap next to Asuna on a sunny day and all of a sudden she wants his magic meatstick naotsugu(not sure on spelling) instantly hits it off with the girl has genuine chemistry with mary-anne is honestly friendly and helpful even when he has no cause to be and by season two they are in a kind of yes, no, not really call each other regularly relationship.
I certainly see how your associate believed that Kirito/Asuna was a more believable relationship.
I blame the sex everyone knows if they don't swear and fornicate then it's not "adult" since naotsugu and mary-anne are taking it slow then they are obviously in a kiddish relationship whereas Asuna was already stripping that first time Kirito stayed over
Michael Bootes Probably because Asuna was used to use sex to get more people into the guild.
Michael Bootes That's the problem, just because it didnt have swearing or sex he assumed it was childish, which really personally annoys me.
I know everyone is going to have vastly different opinions on this issue, but for me there really isn't even a contest here. Log Horizon in my honest opinion beats SAO in almost every respect aside from animation quality. It's like they took a check list of everything the SAO anime tried and failed to do and then said "Okay, now we'll show them how it's really fucking done." I enjoyed SAO, but it's kind of a guilty pleasure. When you come down to it most of the show is just Kirito being an awesome badass. He really doesn't have any major weaknesses and is just unstoppable until the main villain uses a god mode technique. Only a few characters in the cast really get any development and most of the supporting cast are just there in the background. They have the potential to be really interesting characters, but they almost never get a chance to shine. With Log Horizon ALL of the characters have a role to play. This is largely do to the fact that the main character is a supporting class player instead of the front-line destroyer of armies. When you think about it, making the main character physically weak was a stroke of genius. Oh he's badass, but not in the way that Kirito is badass. Since Shiroe is a tactician, his strength comes from his mind and his allies. He's only as good as the people he has under his command and without others to help him, he is pretty much screwed. He has a clearly defined weakness and has to use his head in order to overcome and get around that weakness. Shiroe display's his skill by crafting strategies that utilize his allies in interesting, unique and effective ways. This means that while he's showing his own skills and making himself look awesome, he's also providing an opportunity for everyone else to look awesome. No one feels useless or unnecessary. Shiro and his allies feel like a legit party going on quests and working as a cohesive unit, rather then what SAO did with Kirito just destroying everyone in his path single handed while Asuna or Leefa look on in amazement and occasionally step in to lend a hand for two seconds. KIrito was awesome to watch, but there wasn't a lot of thought put into most of his fights. He was just overpowered and anyone who dared to cross him stood no chance in hell. In Log Horizon it felt like with every battle there was a real chance of the main characters losing. Most of the time they just barely win the day. The Story of Log Horizon also kept me engaged from beginning to end, whereas SAO was half good and half meh. Ultimately SAO for me is a fun series that is more easily accessible to a wider audience, but is plagued by writing issues. Log Horizon requires at least some basic knowledge of gaming, but the writing is of much higher quality throughout and was ultimately a more satisfying experience for me. As a gamer myself I enjoyed SAO, but I FUCKING LOVED Log Horizon.
Although I do agree, would it kill them to put a little more action? Like SAO is all action which is no good (they totally didn't cut off like half the story in season 1, and that was just Aincrad, but whatever, people wouldn't believe me) and I will be honest politics in Log Horizon interest me ALOT. (take 7 breaks in total screaming at how awesome LH is). But seriously could they not try to show some more battles.
Salmon3669
Honestly I'm fine with there not being much action
Jessey Lawson Yeah I was really enjoying the second season until the kids went on their quest. That went on for way too long. I'm still enjoying the season overall though. The first two mini arcs where Akatsuki and Shiroe were separated were really interesting and had some great character development. I hate to say it, but we might have to end up going to the light novels for the rest of the story. Most anime are only there to get people interested in the source material. They rarely ever cover the whole thing Getting two seasons is a miracle in itself.
DevilHunter1994 Sadly season 2 actually catches up perfectly to the current end of the light novels.
DevilHunter1994 I did not like SAO because I didn't like the characters, I love the characters in Log Horizon. It's fun and I'm enjoying it a lot right now.
LH had, together with Overlord, a new way of adressing the "captured in the game".
And that´s why i love those shows. The experimenting with the new environment, the analysis, the tactics, the surprise about changes from what they knew.
And the certainly lovable characters. I bingewatch those shows in a weekend, maybe three days. Few anime make it that far.
You know you've been watching the PodTaku crew too much when you can expect the "Its Shit" line...
Do they have a copyright on that catchphrase? I think they should get that copyright for that catchphrase
Is there such a thing as "too much PodTaku"? Maybe... It is possible... Even so great stuff Tristan ^_~
***** Hello again, Holden-senpai.
Jamie Lancashire Konbanwa Jamie-San
Also when you expect the "People die if they are killed"
One thing that I ADORED about Log Horizon was how Shiroe just OWNS SHIT! He outsmarts pretty much everyone, that he is so much like Light is awesome, and this might just be ME because I wear them too, but, GLASSES!
And overall the show just gave me a big smile, it felt great to watch and I marathoned the shit out of it
And lets all not forget the EPIC opening!
Actually just forget this, Arkada has said all
Let's say Shiroe and Kirito switch places. The result, I would expect: (Since the goal is revealed from the very beginning) Shiroe sweet talks every guild in SAO (Incl. Laughing Coffins) to defeat the game, resulting to minimum death count, and finishing SAO earlier than expected. Meanwhile, on Elder Tale, Kirito, while still figuring out what to do, will play solo, level up to the max level, get every legendary item in the game, and probably, die a virgin.
Sounds about right
well theres some mistake there,1.its true shiroe will use his brain and questionable method as usual like an anti hero he is,the problem is those so called "every guild in sao" or "other character" DOESNT EXIST in sao,yeah,because its all kirito the show,2.sadly kirito will be useless and literally become nobody and irrelevant,why? BECAUSE U CAN'T SOLO A FUCKN MMORPG,surprised? lmao
@@fauzanadrian1593 As a kid, when I first played some MMORPGs, I found out the hard way that teamwork is essential. I often tried and do dmg and or dps way before getting buffs, just so I can "solo" the bosses, only to find out that my dmg was shit and my dps became slow due to debuffs.
As I grew older, I find that LH was a more realistic (to say the least) means of watching MMOs turn anime, because majority of what I experienced are in fact there... minus getting stuck in the world/minor glitch exploits, etc.
Nyanta has the sexiest voice in the dubbed series
Maximus P Overall though, the dub is pretty bad.
Yeah, at some points when you watch the dub (even if you haven't watched the sub) you would realise that certain pieces of dialogue aren't supposed to be in english... However this only occurs in early first season and it get fixed pretty quickly.
So in conclusion; overall the dub is actually pretty good.
+Cause why Not Heyell yeah.
+島田与助 (Shimada Yosuke) i thought all the failures of the dub were hilarious, considering id already watched the sub though, i think the voices were the only thing entertaining me. naotsugu had the most precious gamer lingo ever.
+Cause why Not Nyanta, sexy cat... :-P
It's been a while since I watched something and gotten so invested in the characters. I binged watched all 25 episodes in about four days. Shows a solid 8/9 out of 10 for me. Look forward to next season.
8/9 out of 10?
jomo man 8 or 9
Oh... Hah... Fair on my part.
Haha.
Haha
Dammit I've been conditioned by osu! As soon as the opening started playing I started tapping my desk.
I can relate
You and me both.
wtf I did exactly the same
Can you really blame yourself? It's an awesome opening.
2:41 fukkin SAVAGE my sides HURT!!!
+Yamik Someone call a medic, we got some 3rd degree burns here!!!
OH GOD, THERES GONNA BE SO MUCH SCARRING!
+Yamik can;t stop laughing xDD
2:45 My two words of choice are "Wasted Potential"
Agreed. They could have easily done 2, 3, or even 4 seasons on the story of SAO alone, instead of the elf, gun bullshit be got.
I'd probably use the words "It's okay".
i'd use 7 words. the abridged version was better. much better.
for me "it was OK i guess" or "its kinda "Meh" for me.
Fun fact: In episode 18 around 9:40 you will see 5 players with wolfe heads. This resembles the band Man with a Mission which did the opening
I 110% wholeheartedly agree with this review. :]
yes it is ;D
Why does this guy look like Captain Crunch, tho?
😂😂😂😂😂
No.
portal he needs a gimmick...
portal no he looks like tenya ida from boku no hero academia
Seems more like a gundam Char Aznable cosplay
Shiroe is such an awesome character, especially since he actually does something without sitting on his ass until the last minute for false tension or without having some random power up to save everybody. I wish there were more characters like him
The reason why so many pople hate SAO is because it did not provide what it promised in the first few episodes. That is the difference betwee SAO and LH. SAO "promised" an action based story with some romantic elements by focusing on this aspect in the first few episodes, but then turned around and made it about romantic feelings and relationships with action being almost an afterthought. LH promised an encompassing world with focus on the "behind the scenes" workings of it all with some added action and that is what they've delivered throughout the season.
And that is why you have a love/hate fanbase of SAO and not so much for LH. Because the people who dislike the kind of story SAO was, continued to watch it because they still hoped to get the storyline they expected from the first couple of episodes whereas the kind of people who would dislike LH's main story elements will abandon it pretty fast because it never pretends to be anything but what it is.
In before it turns into a battle-fest... HA
ScarredWolf0529 Sorry, what? None of the hows ever turns into a battle fest.
I'm joking, I was attempting to suggest that it would rather ironic if LH decided to turn around and become a battle focused anime, when SAO basically did the exact opposite of that. Promising a battle heavy show and then providing what it did.
***** the novels actually explain alot about why kirito was still so powerful as for the fairy dance villain ill quote something i said on another comment;
*"since when has the self proclaim fairy king ever been a "great" antagonist*
*if anything kayaba was a better one, he created the first vmmo because he wanted to create a world, not just a virtual world but 1 with a legend behind it so he trapped all those players in sao, make reaching the top floor the goal, disguise himself as 1 of the greatest player to instill positivity in the players and intends to betray them on the 95th floor as the greatest act of dispair and he used a remodeled fulldive machine to perform a super-highpowered scan of his brain to transfer his consciousness into the virtual world permanently and therefor killing himself and becoming a living legend*
*thats what you call a "Magnificent Bastard"*
*suguou on the other hand was a pussy since the beginning, he revealed to kirito his plans so he can sit on his high throne and gloat,, thinks hes some sorta god or omnipotent being, huge ego, acts all smug but turns into a coward when the odds are against him, can i say sociopath? and he wets himself at the end*
*he has no no redeeming qualities at all"*
sao is 1 of my favorite series and all but even ill admit fairy dance was just terrible
I hated SAO, and I'm hating Log Horizon from what I am watching so far.
There is literally nothing at stake and I have almost no reason to care for anybody here in what I've been watching.
Hey Arkada, have you seen No Game No Life yet?
when he said not wanting to get back to the real world that was the first anime i thought about
Don't think he did yet, his twitter have no mention of it. I am guessing he will wait till that anime finish airing.
Will you review the second season?
Arkada, for just this once let me disagree with you: Log Horizon had the _best opening ever_. Otherwise, spot on. Perfect review. I really liked how they showed the mechanics, and seeing as I'm recently getting into MMO's myself I liked this quite a bit.
*cough* Attack on Titan opening *cough* Steins;Gate *cough*
;)
*****
*Cough*Cowboy Bebop*Cough*Eto Ranger*Cough*Accel World 2nd OP*Cough*Black Lagoon*Cough*. Need more?
zhaoyun255 There are plenty of great openings, better ones than Log Horizon's even (I have no problem admitting that), this just a figure of speech. I simply really liked the opening whereas Arkada didn't, so I exaggerated a bit. But yeah, AoT and BL had epic openings.
I wouldn't say the best openings but I prefer it over many of my other favorite animes openings
I loved SAO. Arkada didn't.
Arkada is the PATRON GOD of anime reviews.
So if he gave this show 8.32/10, I can only imagine how much I'm going to be WORSHIPING it by the time I'm done.
Before I watch an anime I check to see if there's a review from arkada but if there isn't I'll watch it and give it my personal rating
Well, I watched it and I'm back... It's good. Like, not WORSHIPING IT good, but pretty damn good. Honestly though, having seen both shows now, I think it's really stupid to compare Log Horizon with Sword Art Online. Aside from being set inside video games, I'd say they have nothing at all in common.
SAO is about a hero and a villain, a fight between good and evil. You root for Kirito and Asuna and you hope Kayaba and Oberon suffer. Log Horizon, though, isn't like that at all. It's about the characters striving to establish their own civilization in a world that used to be a video game. You have good guys to root for, but there aren't any major antagonists.
SAO is about the central cast of heroes and a villain they have to defeat; it's a very shonen show and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Log Horizon... isn't like that at all. I could go on and on about both of them, but the short version is I highly recommend both. SAO and Log Horizon are both AMAZINGBALLZ and you won't regret watching either one.
"Have you seen the real world? IT'S KINDA SHIT!"
XD
Does anyone else think he looks like Heath Ledger's weebo little brother?
Nathan Jordan - Oddly yes I CAN see that
"people die when they are killed"
*HMM YES THE FLOOR HERE IS MADE OUT OF FLOOR*
SAO has fun action scenes and good music. Log Horizon has......... Akatsuki enough said.
Log Horizon actually has a much smarter plot than SAO could ever hope and there is no Yui or cry baby Asuna so yea.
darkfur3 Yeah but Akatsuki was all the show needed to beat SAO.
That and the CURRY!!!!
David Stoddart I LOVE CURRY!!!!!!!
darkfur3 WHO DOESN'T?!?!?!
David Stoddart I haven't seen season 2 yet though. Haven't had the time.
Log Horizon pretty much sold me when their way to promote the series was "this isn't sword art online".
Actually Shiroe is trying to get out, that's what he has been working on while he has been locked away, it is a driving force behind the characters its just not featured much, its alluded to like 6 - 7 times and said out right 5 or so times.
Chiriac Puiu But that's not what he said, it may be picky to point it out but he said that the main goal of our characters as of the end of season 1 is not to get out.
Which is false the very last episode made it clear that Shiroe is trying to find out a way for everyone. Maybe he wants to do it with the people he has gathered rather than with the lady and her way of doing things but it is still clearly his most prominent goal and everything else if coloured by that.
For example his research into how to effect the world was not to save Rundelhouse etc it was in an effort to get home, but they were just happy by products of his research into getting home.
As you and I have said it is not the main driving force behind the plot so far but it is the main driving force of our main char.
And the reason why its not a more central plot point or focus for most of the characters is because there is no clear way like in SAO to get out.
Otherwise I'm sure it would be a more focual plot point right now. Also I don't see log horizon going for much more than 100+ episodes it would be rear for a light novel anime adaptation to get more than 2. even if they are freaking popular and 4 is almost unheard of.
See; Baka and Test, Campione, Is This a Zombie, A Certain Magical Index Code Grease etc.
The only exception I can think of is God only Knows which god 3 seasons so far at least. I wouldn't include Full Metal Panic! Fumoffu a third season though it was good don't get me wrong but it was more of a spin off than an actual continuation. And isn't God only knows a 12-13 episode season anime any ways.
Actually a better example of an exception to the rule would be The Familiar of Zero considering it has 4 seasons... I didn't know that... I'm going to go watch those now cya.
Log horizon. Oh look we cant log out. Oh well, lets just carry on and not stress what so ever.
Would you try to logout from a virtual MMO with how shit our current world is?
Yes, due to family, friends, what is happening on the outside world, whats happening to my body, am i stuck in this game or have i been dragged into it, am I dying in the real world. One should never dislike their current life, no matter the reason what so ever. As the "world" as it is now, does not affect what you do with your life. You simply have to fight for it.
What you're failing to comprehend is that Log Horizon takes place post all the "HOLY SHIT WE CAN'T LOG OUT" stuff has gone down. Things have calmed down and that's where the story kicks off.
I'm pretty sure Log Horizon does take place after all the "HOLY SHIT WE CAN'T GO HOME FUCK!" Phase. Plus, they can't die, and they have a good political and economic system. I would not expect to see the sort of panic we notice in SAO. Also, remember, a lot of the players are just logging back in to a game they've been playing for 20 years, so a lot of these people are most likely grown, mature, calm adults in a world they can semi-understand. And children are all taken in, they are sheltered. Shiroe's goal is to make this their new reality, cause those people in there don't know jack. So they all leave it up to their leaders (the round table) to make the decision, and they follow. The reactions I see by the majority is pretty realistic. They try to live the best they can under the safety of the round table and they continue to "enjoy the game" (remember, they're a lot calmer about fighting and stuff because they cannot die) . Thoughts like "holy shit what's going on with my body" is left for the round table to worry about. And there is still a reasonable amount of doubt we see amongst the people with every decision.
Oh? even though clearly in the episodes you see people shouting for a GM... which lasts 1 minute. Now tell me, lets say you woke up in a strange world. Even if you knew it, you would not stress and question yourself on why you are there, how, who, when, is this real, whats going on in the real world. Even getting lost on a island can cause mental crazyness and stress. So being transported into a "Game" would as well. If all they did was simple jump cuts from the worriment to the "Oh boy lets live here" then that is bad editing on their behalf. None the less, this anime was good after the first few episodes, like SAO... dear god the start of that was jumpy. had to get to episode 6 before the plot did not jump around like a mad man on a pogo-stick
Awesome review. I love how many references it has to the The ELDER scrolls online (and the recent MMO that came out) even the edges of the interface are similar lol
I liked the one piece rap. Yeah I fucking said it, come at me haters
So glad that Log Horizon got a high review from you! Absolutely my favorite anime at the moment! The MMORPG setting really got to me since I used to be obsessed with Runescape (now I'm obsessed with Game of War)!
And yeah, I agree, if I were stuck in my favorite MMORPG I'd be so excited and will find people to explore the world and how it works with me...then I'll start freaking out.
Log Horizon > SAO
If that is what you think you'll never be able to know the difference
SoultanSyah ThePJ I do know the difference. One is made to be more like a real MMO with a lighter, more video game-like tone, strategic combat, and episodic style of story telling. The other is made to be much more of a typical action anime that just so happens to be set in an MMO, with more reliance on a continuous narrative and Shonenesque character traits. That being said, any analytic and experienced anime watcher could see that LH achieves its goal far better than SAO
***** You do know what SAO means? Sword art online. Its like going on a fighting game expecting guns. It may have guns, but probably not. Sword Art Online is a sword game. Log Horizon has magic, how is that not typical? No, tell me how many sword anime you know, now tell me how many magic anime you know?
Sword Art Online doesn´t have alot of strategy since it is sword fighting, and the strategy they use are only agaisnt bosses, and that should be obvius, swords need reaction timing, and you have to know how to counter each attack by pure reaction, you don´t know what the oponent is going to do, but when they know the algoridum, they use strategy(proff is in the first boss fight, they talk about algoridums and strategy).
Its stupid to compare magic with swords, magic will always need strategy, or you will 100% lose against most people. SAO has a great story setting that I have rarely seen in most animes, the only part I didn´t like was it´s continuation.
So you don´t know the difference >.>, you just like log horizon more than SAO since it has magic and you just like it over all... Now saying one is worst or better then the other is complete ignorance. Just ignorance.
Thiago Oliveira Jucá Vasconcelos Ok, so you completely missed the point of what I was saying. I KNOW that SAO is supposed to be about action. I KNOW the difference between action and strategy, and magic and swords. I NEVER said that LH was better because it has magic and strategy while SAO doesn't. I NEVER said that strategy was inherently better than action, or magic than swords. I said LH achieves its goal (being an MMO anime) better than SAO achieves its goal (being an action anime with an almost Shonen style). And that's just a result of analyzing the elements each show without bias. Yes, it ultimately comes down personal opinion, but an anime critic of merit can't deny that SAO has more fundamental flaws in its storytelling (the neglect of supporting characters, completely unexplained and unnatural romance arcs, lack of depth for the protagonist, etc.) than LG. The lesson on genres was really not necessary. You should learn to not zero in on one particular phrase of something that someone is saying, and instead try to see the whole meaning.
***** This is were opinions come in to play, so I´ll try to use my words carefully. I love were LH was going, the concept was good, it was original, fun. And LH just went a different "road" then SAO. To me ,SAO, didn´t seem like a MMO, but I put into perpective what situation they were in. If hp drops to 0= death. And if you assimulate that, It really changes things. And if what you do everyday is fight...it´s just like going to war, you may die anytime. Well, that´s how I see it ~:´3.
LH was a way more... how do I say this... caracter friendly anime. As in SAO, it changes 4 months each episode, and in consists of alot of fighting. And caracter development was forced to be around kirito, since if they tryed to focus on caracter the actual plot would be alot shorter and would lose all things that I love in SAO.
I like is that the Studio, at the end, didn´t focus on the fighting and focused on what they did best: romance. Truth be told I loved episode 1-13, it was perfect, it ended, done. I was 100% satisfied, and It continued and put incest so thats one thing I hate. LH how ever I wasn´t satisfied with how it ended.
It wasn´t the same way I felt after watching 3 seasons of Love to Ru and not seeing any advancement in any sort of way, but I did feel a little weird after all of that, I felt like there was more to be done.
That isn´t exactly bad, but...I felt SAO was more for me: an action pacted anime, that has drama, something I´ve never seen in anime(jumping months and this atmosfear that I experienced so little in anime ) and forced love(rape, lol jk), I mean a good love story and story in general even if it was kinda rushed.
I really don´t consider SAO and LH the same genre, since they went different paths, they were basicly opposites. To me it´s like comparing Clannad with Golden Time(really good anime), they focus on romance, but in two different ways, and has different dramas, I would never compare the two :D.
Thank you for reading :D
"Have you seen the real world?.....It's kinda shit here"
Almost spit out my drink at that
I love log horizon much better than sword art online. Yes, sword art online was good but man...log horizon ;A;
sword art online was a mess it was good at first but it turned into a mess
In my opinion, Sword Art Online was alright until episode 3, after that it just went downhill. Although I did like the (rather rare) fighting scenes (and the songs) that's pretty much all I enjoyed about it.
Edwin Juarez It all went to sh*t from episode 3 you mean.
Edwin Juarez Not to mention the ending was the biggest asspull I had ever seen in any anime ever.
***** Which do you mean?
There are so many asspull in SAO that it is hilarious. Not to mention all the plot holes.
I probably would not have watched log horizon if not for this review. I'm glad I did.
you're my new go to guy for reviews on anime. subbed
I hated Sword Art Online, But this show is one of the best shows from this year.
I personaly liked SAO, not a huge fan though, used to be for like a week or so, but since I can't submerge in animes in this time of my life, since exams are coming which are very serious things in my country, I can't focus on animes that much lately, althoguh I will watch this show for it seems very interesting and shows a different aspect of this genre. Only thing which I'm not sure is whether Log Horizon has an English dub or not because english is not my native language, I still have some issues with reading subs as fast as the talking goes and I might not be able to fully understand the plot. If it doesnt have I might have to wait for a dub, or try it with sub.. but it would be a bit harder for me to understand, I'm more vocally orianted than visually if that even makes sense xD
Excellent review as usual. As someone who has never played an MMO I can vouch for what you said about the gentle learning curve on game mechanics. Cheers!
I love your enthusiasm on your reviews.
That ending so is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo great. Loved the review man. You kept things that needed to remain in perspective, in perspective.
I have a weakness to the Log Horizons Opening - I think it's badddd ... But I like it ... Which makes me feel wrong yet so right.
I watched Sword Art Online and thought the first arc was pretty good. The second arc though.. Lets not speak of it. But after watching Log Horizon, it literally reminds me of the times I played MMORPG all the time. I'd role play and I'd join guilds where everyone knows each other and does silly activities like giving free pie to new players, play music or riding from one side of the map to the other, but it also reminds me of raids.
The characters I also really like, although there is a hint of harem happening with Shiroe (Not that Sword Art can talk). Their interactions are so human and just familiar even though I've never seen them before, because they are gamers and they understand the game, they want to be in the game.
But in Sword Art, there are people who literally need things explained to them because apparently they've never played an MMORPG before or something. That just ruins it for me. These people are suppose to know what they're doing, they're gamers, not fucking idiots, although the anime seems to make them that way.
The music in Sword Art was not memorable at all, as in, I don't even remember the intro or ending themes... Not to mention any of the music used during the anime... Log Horizon has one of the few intro songs that enjoy listening to and also sing a long to that has English words. Because, to be honest, dub is usually a piss poor job of it.
So Log Horizon was way better than Sword Art and I'll never forget the curry scene, which was the single best scene in that anime. xD
2 years later.
So you played MMO's but at a newbie level.
1) The interface is shitty. It seems that they have taken it from SAO and while in SAO it makes some sense, in a "normal" MMO it doesn't. My suspension of disbelief took a hit in the very first episode.
2) In LH, Shiroe explains everything to the viewer. And usualy, half of the explanations are bullshit. The "taunt" in episode 2 is another wonderful example of a skill that wouldn't exist in MMO's.
3) The players knopw the game ? Episode 2, the PK don't even know the enchanter's spells ..... And since they can do a big amount of damage to the tank, they MUST be high level.
4) The map is Earth (in a fucking MMO ?) and distances are halved. Do you realise how stupid this setting would be ? A mount usable 4 hours per day ? Seriously ? But even then, when Shiroe says "we travelled a distance that would have taken 2 weeks by horse" I was going to choke.
5) The fight in episode 4 is a total load of BS. Check how they defeated the monk.
I liked LH. But not because it good adaptation of a MMO. It is a shitty one.
@@AlcyonEldara oh pls stop with ur "pretending like LH but being delusional sao fanboy",do urself a favor an make some effort,because all of ur bullshit u said like explaining skill is actually the best part of Log horizon,u just dont get it,thats why do urself a favor and go search in google and forum,THERE ARE GOOD PPL EXPLAIN THAT SHIT,THE SHIT THAT U DONT UNDERSTAND,and i aint gonna explain it here specially about the map with scaling like real earth,theres a MATH and explanation for that,go look for urself before shit talking when u just dont know it.
meanwhile if u compared it to sao,pfft lmao,do u see any explanation in sao? like how the skill work? how kirito can solo shit everything in a fuckn mmorpg? lmao,yeah log horizon is FAR BETTER than sao.
31st JULY , 2024 Came here in the memory of my first Isekai anime , log horizon has been and will be an important brick which lead me to start watching anime as an whole.
The show like to explain it's mechanics and the best set pieces are the elaborate schemes the Shiroe concocts to accomplish his goals. It might be a turn off for some people since half the episodes aren't action oriented, but I just freaking love the feeling of when Shiroes plan comes together, it makes me think of the espionage that is done in MMOs like EVE.
I like that too, the only thing that makes it hard to really get into it for me is when they do something so stereotyped (like pushing glasses up in a 'oh I´m so smart for you, losers' way) Thought I love all the characters I find many of their mannerisms irritable and irrational, except Mr. Cat cause he´s awesome
Hati Månen I'm not really a fan of the "glasses adjustments" or "Akatsuki punches pervert" either. I make an exception for Mr. Cat though, idk, he's kinda cool.
Hehe i think so too
It's better than SAO. That's good enough for me.
Is it really?
+2kOmniKing SAO is shit, LH is an actual good show.
Y'now what? Piss probably tastes better than the shit I just took, that's good enough for me. -_-
slashbaker 25 huh??
Its has the MMORPG elements in there unlike SAO! They use tactics and strategy to win their battles. Unlike SAO they yells SWITCH and has only Kirito winning every battle he faces
I absolutely loved Log Horizon. i like SAO as well but LH defiantly felt more of a game then SAO. There's just something about SAO that i love but i defiantly see its faults, the time skips, the disappearance of Asuna, i think there's one more but i cant quite remember it. Maybe its was because it was only 14 episodes long? iU think i had an issue with the length, yeah that has to be it.
I'm not going to spoil anything, and anyone who's seen the show will know what I'm talking about. I don't understand the character Rudy. How is this character possible? It isn't explained, and I hope it will be. Also, Akatsuki is awesome AND adorable. I loved the ending song.
*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
What do you mean, How is Rudy possible? It already stated that PoL are no longer simple NPCs, and Rudy clearly has difficulty keeping up abilities wise with his friends. What exactly are you confused on?
That's the common question since "Overskills" haven't been explained in the series. Look forward to Season 2 then you'll know how it's possible.
japzone*DEFINITE SPOILERS!*
How can one of the People of the Land be a sorcerer? How can he gain levels? It's neat that he is an adventurer now, but how was this path even possible for him? A case like his is unprecedented and, so far, unexplained.
gerardda1 People of the Land can actually Level up, though not as fast as Adventurers do and that they need to "kill" an entity that has experience to do that. And the Lander Knights are "Warrior" Classes since they fight with a sword.
Rudy is actually a son of a noble in Elder Tale. How he became a "Sorcerer" is somewhat like a natural phenomenon since he actually pretended to be a Sorcerer by wearing all the necessary equipment a "Sorcerer" would wear and the world eventually recognized him as a "Sorcerer". It's somewhat similar to how a player chooses the class of his character. Since he chose to be a Sorcerer at some point, he became one. Although the freedom of choosing your class anytime you want can't be done by Adventurers. (I'm sure this will be explained in Season 2).
gerardda1 As Kuya said, People of the Land are capable of leveling up and performing magic, it's just that Adventurers are advantaged in ability to collect experience, and other factors like Immortality. More backstory on who exactly Rudy is and why he wanted to become an adventurer is probably forth coming in the LN and Season 2.
The bottom line is, PoL can do much of what Adventurers can, but are highly disadvantaged from the start, generally preventing them from obtaining the same feats and skills that Adventurers can gain with average effort.
Your reviews are clean, mostly not opinionated, mature, relatively short and to the point, i greatly enjoy them. Thanks :)
I strongly agree with u.
I would love it if you could do a review for the game Catherine! if you don't know what that is its it is like no other game that I have ever played
Catherine is an M-rated horror/romance/puzzle/adventure video game from Atlus USA, released on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. The game is developed by the same team that created Persona 3 and Persona 4: Katsura Hashino as Director, Shigenori Soejima as Character Designer, and Shōji Meguro as Sound Composer.
It deals heavily with the themes of commitment, relationships, infidelity, maturity and love, while intertwining the horror and mystery of a rash of unexplained deaths of young men, rumored to be the "Women's Wrath": vengeance against the unfaithful.
Before finishing this review I'm going to bring up my biggest problem with this show. The majority of the characters don't feel like real people stuck in a video game world, they feel like fantasy characters who while are new to their setting still act way to competent in their new reality. You take random RPG gamer and place them into this world and they would not be this mature or competent. The main cast are so calm and confident and the kids are so mature even though they're realities have been shifted, their parents are gone and everyone and everything they new is gone with it. I feel like they never fully addressed this HUGE dilemma. It's my biggest problem because while I personally would fully embrace this world and be thankful for it's existence I would still question what happened to my former reality and everyone in it and I would not be able to handle the amount of responsibility that comes with starting your own civilization. EDIT: Also, the show is very PG. Sex and drugs are not touched upon at all. They're in a reality in which they are immortal, apparently can still eat, shit and piss so why not have sex? Since they can create things from scratch with the right ingredients why not drugs? I just want a more mature version of Log Horizon that also addresses the moral and social issues and dilemmas that come up when put into this sort of reality.
If your looking for a show that has very realistic people then anime and most TV in general is not for you m8
I agree with you about the reactions of the characters and not addressing that issue of reality. However the reason the show is PG is because it airs on an educational channel for kids. The players can have sex. The reason Shiroe and the others were in a rush to save Serara in the novel was because her city was in complete anarchy and players were selling NPCs into slavery and raping them.
Edit: As for the drugs, do you have any idea how to make drugs out of game ingredients? Unlike food, the game had no obvious ingredients for drug preparation. I'd like to see you try to make some drugs out of dragon scales and goblin eyes.
I haven't read them but I heard the Light Novels are FAR more mature than the series.
In my opinion: SAO may have the same genre with the MMO, it is very different. Log Horizon is so different. There is not reason why I should compare it, I love both, and all I would say is what I prefer. If one does compare it, good for you, I prefer to not compare animes that branch off into two different directions.
Jay Park Log Horizon does very poorly on what SAO did very well. They went to 2 different paths... It's as if you're comparing Pizza and spaghetti, both have flour and water and other ingridients, but they taste differently.
So you are saying that personal experience does not matter? If I give a score, it will still be from opinion...so it won't matter what I say. I felt that there was no need to compare since all they had in common was being an anime and that they are inside an MMO. I don't mind grammar mistakes, plus you had so little, that I didn't notice.
Now I do have one argument about opinion: Both were at the same level since their focus were all perfectly excuted and at the end it did what it was made to do, so that makes them equal(Even if SAO's continuation was ill and LH ending, wasn't an ending).
Thiago Oliveira Jucá Vasconcelos the fact of the matter is, that personal opinion is subjective, and everything else is objective. you can say that you like SAO all you want (I know many that do) but that Does not change the fact that:
1) There was no to minimal character development at all.
2) the Time skips are frequent and take away from what could have been a show with great potential.
3) The Villains were bad and had no or terrible excuses for doing what they did.
4) There was far too much reliance on Dues Ex Machina.
5) There was an outstanding amount of filler for a show that was only 25 episodes long.
6) The Romance was heavily forced and did not in any way feel real at all.
instinctz1
1) They were not focused on carecters, but kirito's life in SAO. If they had focused on other caracter, the anime would be very, very long. They focused on the atmosfere of the world.
2) In my opinion that was a great feature, you noticed developtment, you know that they struggled when the time passed. If they hadn't had this, There would be no caracter developtment nor would SAO be two years long.
3) There were no villains, the game master was just someone intriged with the ideia of being God of the world. If you could do it, you would. Now, all I say is based on episode 1-13, I AM TALKING ABOUT SAO. It was to end in episode 13, since that was a great ending.
4)No. That is an opinion you took upon consideration. Do not make it an argument.
5) There were no fillers, maybe at the second part of the anime, yes. But in SAO, any rest was made for caracter development(example asuna), and even with reserving time for them, it was hard fitting it all in.
6) That may be the case, but it was forced, since they were forced to do it quickly. The fact that SAO was a two year adventure compacted in to 13 episodes, including romance in it was hard. For the time they had, it was really well made, and should be respected for it.
The worst thing about SAO is that it had only 13 episodes to conclude SAO. They had to focus on the action to clear the game, the atmosfear, romance and caracter development. LH did little in relation to that all at the same time, actually they focused on caracter development
SAO had character development? What?
I guess SAO was superb in animation (especially during fights) but I think Log Horizon does the rest a lot better.
It took me years to get that damned One Piece Funimation rap out of my head. Years, Arkada. YEARS.
Actually that is the 4Kids opening because Funimation only used the openings that were used in the Japanese version. But yeah other than that almost agree but I'm okay with the opening I enjoyed it IMO.
Lol remember that "it's shit" from that podtaku episode
I just want to ask the fans of this show a question: If you had the choice between living in this world, Earth, or being transported to your favorite MMO game to live there forever which would you pick? Also which MMO would you live in?
live in my favorite MMO ofc ! for me its gonna be WoW aka world of warcraft since ive been playing it for about 8 years :) *need a life*
abdullah alkhaja Yeah I never played WoW mainly because of the subscription fee. By the way how much is the fee again? If it's not too much I may give it a try.
I would live in the Scarlet Blade MMO. It seems like a really nice place to be in :)
***** it's about 15 USD a month
MMO! The game would be TERA rising ♥
this is my fav game genre anime! truly nailed with the review!
Great Review! The fact that the score remained so high, after getting kicked before permission was given, is quite impressive. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to more videos in the future.
Good bye free time, hello Log Horizon :D
If you take the concepts, characters, plot and in depth mechanics of Log Horizon and mixed them with the gorgeous animation (and to a very toned down extent the fanservice) of SAO then you'd have yourself some really awesome shit.
+Planetary Pieces i wish this would actually happen
Planetary Pieces It’d probably get a lot more attention too
You kind sir do amaze me. I have to admit this truely is well done.
Ad each episode you show both the good and the bad of each show.
I aplause to thee.
Just found out about this channel and - I gotta tell you - I like what I see. You just got another subscriber. Cheers. ;)
the reason why sao seem to abandon its mmo elements (huds, hp/mp etc) is because it started going to its main theme, human mortality while log horizon focus on economics from the start
it's not the huds or hp/mp that makes it MMO-like. it's the setting itself. SAO feels like an action fantasy anime. the MMO rules in SAO can easily be replaced by generic fantasy plot elements and it would still make sense. LH on the other hand, is driven completely by MMO elements such as: skill cooldown, character classes, crafting, questing, NPC, building owner's authorities, game master (guardians punish those who break the game rules), monster aggro, MMO player mentality (players in LH LOVE to do quest and grind for level just like real MMO players), and lots more. All of these only make sense in MMO.
Seyha Leonhartz that because log horizon is focus on economics, go watch maoyu mao yuusha (made by the same person) to get a better idea, the mmo elements in log horizon are are actual plot points while sao only uses it to explain how the world works, if we repplace the "MMO rules in SAO" with "generic fantasy plot elements" would that even make a difference? if we do the same with log horizon then its a problem
sao still does retain some of its mmo elements even when going from game to game (sao, ao, ggo and uw, yes i read the novels, long before its anime came out) the mechanic arent that important and sometimes even a flaw in the writing (im suprize no one notice how he can get his arm cut off yet when he lets a group of pkers several below him slice him up his limbs doesnt go flying but rather the sword slashes are rendered as red slash marks on him)
Yuki Fubuki
Not sure what u try to say anymore. u seem to agree that SAO doesn't feel like an MMO like LH does, so there's no argument here. Arkada just make a point that it's because LH nail the MMO setting so well that make it a better trapped-in-MMO anime than SAO. and i agree with him on that.
Seyha Leonhartz sao as hardly even a trapped-in-MMO anime anime, that just the setting of the initial premise, after that it diverts into something else
its mor focused on the morality of humans and their relationships with each other and how mmo/games (can) affect it (this explains all the characters relationship with each other, kirito hestitating to join klein, kirito and the black cats of the full moon, yui views of asuna and kirito as her parents, silica and liz feelings for kirito, grimlock killing his wife, the pkers true nature, sinon/shino and kirito past trauma with murder, the truth behine yuuki and the rest of the sleeping knights guild and exactly what measure is non human when dealing with the inhabitants of the underworld in the alicization arc) in fact its safe to say kayaba himself is an author avatar considering he trapped all those players inside the game jsut so he can see their reaction
the light novel its adapted from is dual with his other novel accel world with the same themes cept dealing with the psychological aspect instead and in how everything is settled inside the mmo privately in sao while accel world has the element of intrusion in the daily lives of the inhabitants of the accelerated world
most people seem to think sao is an action base survival (horror) anime when its really not, they dont realize it deals with other stuff instead
then again the anime only goes up to the 4th volume while the light novels is already on its 14th volume, the people who only watch the anime are missing like 72% of the full story
***** . . . you did realize that i just said being trapped in an mmo is just the *"setting of the initial premise"* and the focused more on the *"morality of humans and their relationships with each other and how mmo/games (can) affect it"* right?
hate sao as much as i hate the 9 2 8 teemo on the enemy team in My rank game
ps i love log horizon
Not as bad as a 5/1 fizz 5 minutes into game
Try a 21/0 Akali before 20.
Shut up you sao haters. At least stop winning about it.
SAO was alright, I dont think it was good or bad but rather ok it just lacked the character development that I love in Log Horizon, and BTW I watched SAO first and was skeptical about Log Horizon but I gave it a go when I was bored one day and was instantly hooked on it. So Benji I recommend you give it a try because in hind-sight if I had watched Log Horizon first I probably would've hated SAO too because I saw what they could've done with SAO's potential but they didn't in favor of fan service
Ur videos transitions are really well done. I must learn from you.
Great review, I even laughed a couple of times, you sir earned yourself a subscriber :)
I think people look at SAO with too much extremity. It has shitty things in it but it also has too many good things in it for me to call it total shit. I think calling it shit or a masterpiece are both going in the wrong direction. Having said that I do think that the overall premise that SAO and Dot Hack presented can be redone with different ideas, plots, and characters incorporated into it so I fully welcome any anime trying to use that premise.
THANK YOU! I was practically holding off to see if it was decent before watching it. I do like the .hack (apart from roots) and SAO (even fairy dance). Definitely going to give this one a try.
You sir, have earned a subscribe. Not because I agree with you completely. But rather you seem to fairly judge anime and know what you are talking about. You make some compelling arguments and you make some valid points, but you also explain them. I look forward to your future reviews!
Here is a recommendation for a review, an anime that is a slice of life/fantasy show that has fantastic art, good character development and much emotional content, Nagi no Asukara :)
I liked that one :)
I definitely agree with the review, and I just hope they "up the ante" in season 2, and hopefully don't do too much with the whole love triangle thing ... come on the ending said all. Other then that, I hope I can buy it when it hits Australia ... if it ever does.
Also there is definitely going to be hate for the hits against SAO, but that *"IT'S SHIT"* got me good. XD
Hey I saw you on chill channel
Anderson Benitez Yes, I am "that guy" on Chilled's channel.
>says SAO is shit
>rates it higher than Kill la Kill
I really don't understand that logic
He didn't like Kill la Kill either.
Justin Kallio So he hated Sword Art Online less then Kill La Kill i think
StaticzAvenger
to be fair, Kill la Kill didn't lie to you. It basically said that it was gonna be nothing but dumb fun and action whereas SAO did.
This is one of the reasons I myself don't like SAO. The first few episodes of SAO had so much promise in giving us a world full of action, adventure and fantasy. It promised boss battles but instead, what we get is a generic harem, an unrealistic romance and......well...playing house. "I'm the wife, you're the husband. here's our baby." and then it continues to insult us with the whole little sister plot
StaticzAvenger
>Hates SAO
>Rates it 7.5. (Rounding to 8 on Hummingbird)
The fuck is with this rating system...?
You are the best review channel i ever seen
Ahaha I see what you did there in the "This is a fairly complicated process" part, as I watched Log Horizon. So if no one else did, I saw what you did there. Anyhow, thx for the recommendation, loved the show. :)
Looks like you managed to persuade me to go watch another Anime xD
On a side note, I love it when people dislike SAO, I laugh so much. I mean, personally I somewhat enjoyed the Anime, but I don't defend it. That's because, I know what I like about it is the story that I know from the Light Novel. However, I do recommend everybody to watch SAO season 2, why? Because it has an ACTUAL STORY, that aside, it actually has a really nice story line in my opinion. When they animated SAO, they chose to skip a major part of SAO which I thought personally was one of the best parts, whether they did this because they want to use it as a chance to return to the original world of SAO (Aincrad) in season 2, who knows.
Regardless, it's amazing how many people try to actually defend SAO with illogical arguments :P
Oh and an Anime I do recommend everybody to check out, currently airing and their should be 3 episodes out by now, "No Game No Life". Great Anime that takes place in a ... I can't actually describe this setting actually...
No Game No Life is a very good show! Excellent recommendation!
Here we are in 2021, still waiting for an NGNL season 2.
As someone who poured a few years of my life into MMORPGs, I was able to enjoy Log Horizon's take on the theme enough to give it a spot in my favorites. That being said, the one flaw was it's lower production value so I'm direly hoping it blows up in popularity and we get faster paced, complexly choreographed, beautifully animated battles. ^^ #sixseasonsandamovie
this review is great, it has helped deepen the understanding of this anime, which I already found awesome
Only heard of and watched this show because you liked it so much. I've got to say that I just watched this whole show in three days and I loved it. Keep reviewing to give me more shows to watch please!
season 2 coming out on october! Yeah, more DATABASE YO!!! XD
can't wait for season 2
October cant come fast enough.
Man, I wish these could be more frequent :D Even when we disagree, your charisma is always welcome
I love this channel so much
Arkada, I wanted to just say you are a fantastic find on youtube as an anime reviewer. I love your opinions and you have a great understanding and give fair criticism. I love your videos. Maybe if you can for me could you review the show S-Cry-Ed. I heard a lot about the show having a really big fan base and while I was at Con Bravo in Hamilton, Ontario I was recommended the show but I was nervous getting to around to wanting to see the show. Maybe if there was a solid review maybe I'll check it if it's worth it. But possibly could you be really amazing and potentially review it? I'm sorry to throw a recommendation out in the comment section and add another show on your plate. But I was just curious on your thoughts.
SAO II is twice as good as SAO. instead of becoming shit at ep 3 it became shit at ep 6. Now this may sound weird but i still like sao despite the fact its shit.
***** in a way yes. I watch SAO to see how bad it can get. To see how far the fans can still back this anime with logic and me just staring at them laughing. Its also quite entertaining to watch something stupid happen, ex. a sniper that cant snipe .....or random bs and asspulls.
123LuffyDMonkey SAO II is tremendous. The shit you are refering to is so far from shit I need to ask for explanations. Please DO give me an explanation cause It will be fun proving you wrong with guess what ? Logic from guess who ? SAO fan. so please go on
Desū Gun sure in a bit. i need to find all the flaws of the anime. there were 2 many to count so i need to re-watch some episodes.
123LuffyDMonkey Of course. The anime of SAO 1 : I am with you. If it had been adapted properly there would be way less haters. It had enough stuff for 25+ episodes of only SAO instead they : skipped major boss fights. Level 2 50 (of course the Novel had them go1-1 or 2-2 with minor skips but I am talking about the best ones.) The weapons enchanting armor smithings Kirito and Asuna being a party for a lot of occasions before becoming a couple (they were a party for like 1 year then she went in KoB and they split up and then they were reunited but in a better way than the anime showed us) And a lot more major flaws like skipping Character Development for Klein and Argo (they cut argo off) and they are too many to count so yes SAO 1 was a fail rushed forces romanceANIME ADAPTATION. but I am talking about the original content here. SAO II has been adapted in a 90% correct manner maybe higher. Kirito is less OP Sinon has and Kirito ge development the pacing is fine and everything can be explained with few to 0 plotholes so I do not see why SAO II became shit after episode 6. Is it the cave scene or the fanservice ? The cave scene is really important even though they spent 2 episodes there. That's where they unravelled everything. And the fanservice is done by the anime produces (Sinon ass shots were never even mentioned in the Novel and the scene were Kirito was looking at dat booty was normally to see if she still had her pistol to defend herself against death gun in close range)
Desū Gun Ok lets talk about SAO II. This is Pre analysis. First of all SAO II is heavily influenced by the original SAO, you could say its almost a continue. This is proven when the new problem arose from the original: surviving "laughing coffin" members as the new antagonist. The first problem i have is that SAO II just made up a conflict to continue the story.The fight with laughing coffin guild was made up in SAO II which makes the plot a bit weaker. They basically pulled a "because I told u so". If SAO II introduced a new, different enemy then they could have developed reasons and motives why this new enemy wants to kill. They never explained why laughing coffin killed (or why / how they turned psycho), making SAO weak, which now translates into SAO II. Now lets start at the opening. Its awesome!!. Way better than SAO. The only thing that i dont like in the opening is Sinon x tentacles. why not just let her sink in the water? Kirito's whole "I killed 2 people in SAO" syndrome is way over-exaggerated. If kirito actually felt that way then he should have been behaving like that b4 meeting death gun. Shinkawa is introduced as a very supportive character who is in love with Asada. He is seen as forward but very calm and patient. This remains true throughout the anime until episode 12. What made him change so drastically? I dont care if Asada rejected him ...he cant break character like that in a instant. If they showed him developing into the crazy guy then that would be fine. Or you have to give hints at his change. This is an "ass-pull". So they sneak into the houses of the players and kill them using a "master electronic key" that can access anyone's house which they got from the hospital ? lol ok cuz that makes total sense. So the government has developed a key that can access anyone's house. Whats more is that it is left at the hospital. It would make sense if the key could access all the hospitals doors and only the hospital doors. There is just so many problems with this. The hot flirting nurse ...why ...why not a male. Why not a female that doesnt flirt!!!! Kirito lets out his feeling infront of the nurse, cries in the nurses's laps but not infront of Asuna. There is a lot more that i can say but ill save that for the next comment as this one is getting long.
Thanks for reviewing this Log Horizon. I haven't watched anime lately and would have completely missed this one.
Great review. It's refreshing to see someone explaining the mechanics of why they actually like or dislike something rather than blatantly rambling for 15 minutes about "exceptional and complicated character development."
Great job!
I think *one* of the reasons Log Horizon worked and SAO didn't is because SAO tried to dive into the technical side of things.
SAO spent a lot of time trying to explain how the virtual reality devices worked, and how they trapped people in the game, and all these other tedious, convoluted, unimportant, BULLSHIT details that do nothing except detract from the focus of the story. It had too much going on and didn't know how to manage it.
Log Horizon circumvented that mess by just starting out in the game world, never showing the outside real world. We don't know how the people got sucked into the game, but it doesn't matter, so the story doesn't dwell on it. That's how you make a good story: eliminate all unimportant stuff.
*****
Exposition, when done right, can be great. SAO didn't do it right. The opening scrawl of Star Wars did it right. A few short paragraphs at the *very* beginning to set the stage, and then jump straight into the story.
But yeah, there were a lot of things SAO fucked up, but as I was comparing the two, it occurred to me that one specific thing was to cut out the technical crap. I think that was a smart move on the part of Log Horizon to streamline the story, minimizing distractions.
I completely agree about how Sao was trying to do too much and why I think that the Sao light novels are far better than what the Anime tried to accomplish.
It was also complete bullshit in terms of actual science. Like...Im sorry but no.
Killer Orca
Hey, when watching a sci-fi show, I can suspend disbelief about the human mind getting trapped inside a video game, if it's explained consistently. I would just rather it not be explained at all, since all that would do is detract from the story being told *in* the game world.
jack squatt Let your mind handle it instead right? Whatever you think of is usually better than what the official thing is in my experience.
Obviously Log handled that just fine
SAO is good if you ignore the existence of what in my opinion is season 2. Finish episode 14 and then stop watching. Its better that way, you won't want to punch babies in the face then.
also the fact they are not following the LN very much and true season 2 was horrible in anime and LN form but at least it gave us a villain you hate with a passion. Thankfully season 3 which is Gun Gale Online steps it up and is outright badass.
Train Hardnett It really isn't. Gun Gale online is the extreme of self insert. Everybody fights with guns, but the mc just chooses a blade weapon, because he is cool enough to deflect shots with it. It doesn't get any shittier.
0Berethor0
at least he isn't a fucking fairy this time.
Train Hardnett
Agreed, Oberon/Sugou was my favorite part of Season 2. Had to get used to his obvious casting as villain (apparently the word subtlety escaped the A-1 Pictures dictionary), but came around to enjoying his over-the-top-ness.
Other than that the only other thing I really liked with a Season 2 setting was the underwater mission in the Extra Edition movie.
I feel like a minority, since I actually enjoyed the Fairy Dance arc more than the Aincrad arc. Don't ask me why, I just do. Though at least one of my favorite two arcs are going to be in this season if not both. Phantom Bullet and Mother Rosario were by far my two favorite arcs when I read them and knowing they're being brought into anime form is rather awesome to me.
Hi so I watched this review last year and I totally loved it. I just brought parts 1 & 2 on DVD.
Amazing complex characters, world building, character development, characters are all flashed out it's amazing.
*Confession Bear*
I actually liked the 4Kids One Piece opening.
Also...never play the 4Kids One Piece opening ever again....that thing is a sin on anime
You should definantly do a review of durarara. If only because there aren't many good, thought out, nicely put together reviews of it on youtube.
You're one of the few people I've seen that has the same opinion as me with SAO. You therefor are mad rad :p
Btw Arkada can you review Accel World? That's something i have been wanting for in a long while
yeah that one was good, cross your fingers for a second season
Starfox Falco i know right? I want one sooo bad. It has been far too long. Hoping after SAO II maybe it will happen.
Stumbled on Arkada looking for something great to watch. Love the personality, quirkiness and general knowledge Arkada has. +1 subscribe.
Looking forward to checking out Log Horizon. I get oh so tired of meat-head protagonists.
So, arcada... how did you like the ending of season 2?
best review i've seen so far... good job dude! keep it coming and take my like and subscription :D