@Eric Nunya Well, they didn't say how many bombs, just that it would be stronger than most of them. I suppose that most (amount) of the world's supply of firecrackers piled up could still do a lot of damage. More than a broom at least.
A cavalery attack comprised of a Giant fromation stampede with weaponized 2-weeled wheelbarrows with 2 bowmans , followed by a second row with scythes to cleanup the who ones made it through the gaps. Each Giant having one instant legolas bowman on the back to keep clear from annoying sneak attacks.
Someone has maybe brought this up before, but... Re: giants weaponizing their feet - in the Chronicles of Narnia books, when giants were preparing to go into battle at one point, they all sat down to put on spiked boots. Good thinking, C.S. Lewis!
I just mentioned CS Lewis the other day when pointing out how often Bullies in school end up being a favorite of some school administrator and end up doing their bullying below the radar. (The Silver Chair)
Even with a sling Goliath would probably lose. Sure, the giant slingshot would be a deadly weapon when you fire it, but to fire it you need to get a couple of spins out. Considering that it is giant, accelerating to necessary speed would be much slower, David would probably be able to fire 3-4 shots before Goliath would throw his thing.
@Henry DallOglio I think a giant with a bow would be a ballista bucko. why not a giant with one of those gigantic crossbows that required 2 people to fire except scaled up to giant size? That would probably be like a super ballista assuming you could bend the string without getting it permanently stuck, from what I understand the string on that particular crossbow was made of metal, and even if you made a gigantic spring-steel string that was 4 times thicker, they are still bending it farther back because of the larger surface area of the crossbow putting more abuse on the metal. Not to mention, that I’m pretty sure metal becomes less resilient the thicker it is.
@@armorman55 In the Imperium of Man, Space Marines trim you... well till some other overpowered super soldier/weapon kills them, then another over powered super soldier/weapon kills them, and so on and so forth.... OVERPOWERED IS THE NAME OF THE GAME. "Walk softly, and carry a big gun" -Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos WAAAAAARGGHHHH!!!! -Every Ork "I have seen the future, and it is death.” -Farseer Avenelle
"Eyes without life, maggot-ridden corpses, mountains of skulls. These are some of my favorite things." - Dracon Borkor "Beep Boop Die" - Necrons "Insert random alien biomass gurgling and screams here" - Tyrinid "The Greater good" - The Night's Watch Alliance, HotFuzz... I mean Tau. "The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time." -Lorgar Aurelian Primarch of the World Bearers
As soon as you mentioned scythe, I got this uncomfortable feeling. Comparing humans to grass or crop getting cut is a really sinister thought. Imagine giant just casually mowing his way through fields of people.
The fear factor alone would cause armies to flee. Especially being that cloth is the best armor, the giant could be dressed in a layered cloak with a scary masked helm. People would think death himself has come to decimate them, and they wouldnt even be wrong!
Lets take a moment to appreciate that Shad took time out of the beginning of this video to give a shoutout to a completely unrelated channel simply because he liked their content.
Give them something like a halberd and a sling as well as protection against fire breath and that dragon doesn't stand much of a chance (correct me if I'm wrong in the weapon choice of halberd)
@@alexanderthegreat6682 with dragons youd want to stay as far away as possible due how many ways they can kill you, youd most likely want a long spear or cross bows with fire bolts and or what ever element they are weak to,and a large round sheild would be better then a sling ,due to the fact that dragons have claws and teeth that could bite throuh a sling
So what I'm hearing is that the absolute best melee weapon for a giant would be a combination of a scythe and a club...? Giants are the best golf players in fantasy
@@ofal5124 I heard a tale of one man that charged a warchief with a club and, with a single swing, took the chief's head clean off. It sailed a hundred yards through the air and landed in a rabbit hole. Thus, the battle was won and the game of golf invented at the same time
Dogs wont bite you if you run towards them. They aren't stupid they know they only have one mode of attack so if you attack first they wont try to bite you they'll run. Tip of the day
Fantasy: The bones of giants are not made out of calcium, but out of certain rare metal alloys. This enables them to be as nimble as smaller humanoids. However, that is also why giants have been hunted to extinction in some regions.
@@ofal5124 I really can't imagine any way that you would try to kill a giant that would require breaking bones. If your spear hits a rib and not an organ, you've fucked up whether the ribs are made of metal or of calcium (which is also a metal, technically). The goal is to get around the bones.
@@ofal5124 cleverness, their environment, etc. Get the high ground, throw a spear into its throat. It's a hard throw, but not impossible. Likely, though, they'd be hunted by an industrial society with need for metal, so gunpowder becomes a factor.
I think it's really great, that you recommend and link other youtubers and building some form of community instead of seeing them as competitors, because we are all interested in the same topics and the more opinions, the better!
well when you can easily watch multiple videos, they don't need to compete as much, especially when they recommend other channels those channels might recommend then back. it's a win win situation
Shadiversity - I've been thinking about scythes for giants for some time as well. Then my mind has wandered a bit more towards Warhammer 40k territory and I just saw a beautiful image of a giant with a chainsaw on a scythe pole, absolutely grinding through any infantry :D #chainscythesforgiants
Even better give a giant a swarm of humans and have them build a giant powered trebuchet and have like 30 gaints use it to luanch a 200kg projectile over 1500 meters.
@@dragonwithamonocle I totally agree. A Giant with a giant sized bow is a mobile ballista. A Giant with a sling is a mobile trebuchet. A Giant with a golf club is... probably not a siege weapon but still good xD
Giant with a flail is a literal wrecking ball. Give it padded armor, a tower shield and a sling for range and you have a mobile siege tower that walks right up to the gate or walls and proceeds to knock them down. I'm now looking at giants as a viable option to build D&D military units lol
Indecently, David never killed Goliath with a sling, he just stunned him and used Goliath's own sword to make the killing blow... according to the myth.
Obviously the best weapon for a giant when fighting humans, or any opponent significantly smaller, is a golf club, Because not only is it lethal as a melee weapon my with practice you could turn the victims into projectiles. :P
But if giants are such perfect soldiers, the enemy would likely use them as well, so what would be the best weapons for giant v. giant warfare? Maybe a halberd or war-pick/axe and shield combo?
I think comically long pikes, a lot of comically long pikes. Something like the Macedonian phalanx (idk how it is said in English, i hope i wrote that correctly)
Since giants have 8 times the volume to maintain, they'd need a lot more food and water to live. Maybe they're so prohibitively expensive that only something like Rome could afford a practical army of them. That'd mean that they wouldn't need to consider giant v giant so much.
That's something that happens very similar in the manga of Attack of titan *SPOILERS* A giant sentient titan grabs rocks with his hands, smash the in smaller pieces, and throw the rubble in a baseball fashion decimating hundreds of mounted soldiers in very few throws.
Hmmm I prefer the single large boulder because smaller things can be blocked by walls, shields, trenches and such. If you have one big boulder, good luck trying to block that. I know I know even small pellets are impossibly damaging at that force but if you have like 20 pellets that's at best 20 men, at worse less due to inaccuracy. You wouldn't kill 2 with one pellet in most cases. But with one giant boulder you could get much much more provided they are in a dense enough formation. I guess small pellets are more against spread out formations. I wonder how giants would fight cavalry...
ruyman90 that scene always bugged me, how fast is he throwing those things that it goes clean through the long side of a horse and still kicks up dirt on the other side?
Not sure how well they would work if only the size of modern shot without having a higher velocity than seems practical with a sling. You could make them larger though perhaps about the size and weight of a musket ball old muskets didn't exactly shoot particularly fast but were still effective with balls that size.
They could take two cannonball sized stones or metal balls, chain them together, and either sling them into groups of enemy or throw them. I imagine that would be devastating.
Ya know, you were really enthused about the centrifugal force a Giant could put behind a sling so I was surprised you never mentioned a particular melee weapon. The flail.
xbox432 flail with bladed chain. Combine some of the rotational energy of the sling (without releasing a projectile) with the lawn mower effect of the scythe and the large hit box of the club. How is this not a thing?
Flail would be OP. I was thinking flail or even just a chain the whole time. It would be light for the giant, and would magnify his force tremendously through it's length. Speed would not be an issue as the tip would accelerate fast and with the length of the chain would be able to cut swathes of foes down.
Cassandra depends on the material's tensile strength, thickness, and methods of manufacture, now wouldn't it? Could be that with a chain using inch thick steel appropriately welded it could withstand the force. However, I'm not a materials genius, so it's quite possible steel would weigh itself down faster than buulding the sufficient strength. Fantasy provides all sorts of super metals that are incredibly strong yet lightweight, so perhaps an adamantium, mithril, or other super metal would be more than sufficient.
you know what i like about this channel? the fact that we are sitting here, listening to shad seriously break down what "GIANTS" would use as weapons.... and then i look to the right and the play next shows "what weapons would snake people really use?"... THAT is why i like this channel.
They had them but were too proud to use them in one-on-one combat, especially against normal sized foreigners. He literally hadn't taken a break from laughing at young David before he was struck dead.
From a biological point of view, a larger animal is actually worse at dissipating heating, again due to the square cube law. For doubled size, there is quadruple the surface area to dissipate the heat, but 8 times the internal volume, that is 8 times of cells inside to produce heat. This is actually a phenomenon common in real life. A very large animal, say an elephant, consumes much less food in proportion to its body weight than a very small animal, say a mouse. So in some sense, many fantasy work depicting giants living in high mountains where the weather is cold is actually fairly realistic, as their body could handle, maybe even very comfortable in such an environment. If giants lived under hotter climates, they probably would evolve some sort of capability to better dissipate heat, or just live in water, like hippos.
elephants actually slow their metabolisms to prevent them from boiling. their cells mitochodria literally just work less to avoid the heat issue. so i visualise realistic giants living day to day in this low power state and being able to, when in adrenaline rush, accelarate to full power for limited bursts in combat before they begin to overheat and need to fall back. perhaps they would wear the padding on their legs and waist and mail on their torso to allow airflow while defending against arrows. also they would begin turning red as they fight as their blood rushes to their skin surface to dissipate heat. perhaps the tactics in war would be an initial assulat by giants and by the time the rest of the army catches up the giants are overheated and can rest behind the lines and fire rocks until they are cooled enough to rush into battle again.
@@Julian-pw5mv Elephants don't do that. Giants could probably exist in real life, but they would have to develop differently from humans, most likely putting more strength in their legs then in their arms. This would also mean it would be less useful to throw things which is probably why humans didn't evolve to be giant.
@@ericolens3 In a world where Giants exist and are using grass trimmer, climate change would be the least of my concerns. :D And how much methan does a giant release per fart?
yep that was my thought -those old school weed wackers...basically a bladed golf club....or a scythe, flail, or even a bola (basically cannon chain shot at that size)
But a chain bola would bet better verses an army on a battlefield. Where a normal bola can kill or ensnare a giants bola would do club like area damage.
I was scouting around the enemy's castle at night, a good half a kilometre away from the walls in a large grass field to stay well out of sight. This was said to be one of if not the most highly protected castle in all of the land. It had three exterior walls, between which was a fifty-meter gap filled with oil that could be set ablaze at any time. All three walls had their own battlements and dozens of men that lived at each of the walls to keep a constant eye out for intruders and to rain armour-piercing arrows upon anyone that was deemed a threat. My goal was simple: find a weak point in their defences, and report back. Suddenly I froze as a light appeared behind me. I cautiously turned around and couldn't believe what I saw. It was a giant. These were creatures of myth, that you would tell your kids about to scare them into doing their household duties, but you never really believed that they existed. These towering beasts were three to four times the size of a man with limbs like tree trunks and were said to be strong enough to knock aside a dozen armoured soldiers at a time. Their armour was supposed to be centimetres thick leather armour, with steel helmets so thick they could withstand a hit from a battering ram. Only siege level weapons were supposed to be able to take down these beasts. The giant had just lit an oily rock on fire that was at least the size of a horse's head. The behemoth put it in a sling that looked like it should be attached to a trebuchet, not wielded by hand. He started swinging it around, slowly at first, but slowly gaining speed. After a few short seconds, the sling was swinging so fast a low but incredibly loud hum was emanating from it, the flaming boulder just an orange ring illuminating the giant. I could see torchlight frantically moving around the castle barracks. The castle guards had seen the attacker but were hopelessly unprepared for what came next. An ear-shattering SNAP echoed into the night as the living siege weapon let go of one end of the sling. The enormous projectile approaching the castle at speeds that rivalled a ballista. With a gigantic CRASH, the boulder punched a hole clean through the first and second layers of the castle wall, stopping inside the third wall, but somehow the walls stayed standing. They didn't fare so well after the second shot though. I watched in horror as rock after rock was hurled at the castle until the entire castle was nothing but a pile of flaming stone rubble. After observing the destruction he had caused, the giant walked off into the night. The most secure place inside or outside the kingdom had just been destroyed as if it was a sandcastle, and I didn’t know what to think.
Kind of what i thought, imagine giants forming shield walls, and clubbing humans in front of them, humans could do shit in melee. They'd need catapults and scorpions.
In one of my D&D campaigns, I had it so that some giants would equip themselves with lengths of spiked chains which they would use to just sweep through enemy formations with wide swings. At one point I had a particularly cruel giant wrap the chain between both hands, lean close to the ground, and charge straight toward the PCs while mowing down everything in between like some kind of fantasy killdozer. Needless to say, the PCs were utterly terrified of chain-wielding giants from that point onward.
Having played as an Ogryn in Warhammer 40K Darktide has given me a greater appreciation of what size means in combat. Ogryns are are easily twice the size and width of a normal human, and bonking and bullying hordes of little humans from a first-person perspective was very eye-opening. If you can knock someone on their feet they're much easier to beat in combat, and with the height, strength and leverage I feel like this would be a big tactic of giants on things more approaching their height, or if your fiction has giants that aren't house sized (or if they vary greatly between types). Another thing this made me think of was the trope I mostly saw in superhero cartoons growing up, where there's a big dude who's gotten a hold of a little dude (usually the hero). Then invariably throw the little dude away. Why? You have him at your mercy! I mean, I know the real reason is that the cartoon can't keep airing if the villain of one episode crushes the hero while he's helpless, but you get what I mean. I feel like crushing, or even tearing off limbs, is something that large humanoids would do to small humanoids. Heck, chimps do that to monkeys or even other chimps given the chance. That also made me think, giant chimps would be an absolutely terrifying fantasy monster.
@@briang3598 The sling is what got him killed. The sword was just used to finish him off when he was helpless. You wouldn't even have needed a weapon at that point, just some implement to cut his arteries open.
Ikr And it is just awesome how much logic thinking, research, visualisation and attention to details he puts into his videos. That is rarely done for comparable content in such a high quality. There is some deeply rooted passion going on. Thanks for great content!
Initial movements would be too slow. Also takes too much energy for a giant to perform those things. Would much rather have my giants use simpler but effective means to decimate my enemy's forces
Actually, I think that, in a massed battle, a giant's ranged weapon of choice would be a shot-put. Mainly because it would not go as far as an arrow or a sling. Imagine a giant-sized shot-put landing in the middle of an enemy formation, and then bouncing! It would just smash a trail of devastation through half the army.
Nate Rivera The best weapon for Giants would be the sling. Cheap but deadly. Getting hit by a stone thrown from Giants sling is Equalevent to getting hit by a 60lb stone launched from a Román Onager Catapault but one that can Quickly get out of melée range.
David only knocked Goliath silly with the sling (or more likely sling-staff since Goliath actually taunts him for 'fighting with a stick' as if he was going against a dog) and because he had an open-faced helmet it hit him in the face. Once he was on the ground however David used Goliath's sword to cut his head off. Then he dragged it all the way to Salem (which would eventually be Jerusalem/City of David) and buried it under Golgotha. 1 Samuel 17: 43 He said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come at me with sticks?” And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. 1 Samuel 17: 48 As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. 49 Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown on the ground. 50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him. 51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword and drew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword. When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they turned and ran.
Also as a guy who used scythe a lot (in my younger years) I can attest that uneven ground is not a problem if you have enough skill in using it. Scythe is even intentionally designed with this in mind: it's blade is turned slightly upward so if it run on the hillock it bounces up and runs over it instead of cutting into it.
@@Michael-McCollum aiming at me or y enemy? because I'd rather not imagine being blown to shreds by what would more than likely equate to a living A-10 Warthog in sheer power.
And kill them with concentrated sun light. Clever but need resources: 1. Have they envented though glass. 2. The sun itself. Can’t do that during the night. 3. Resources to make the thing. 4. Reach or range of the light beam. 5. The amount of time it need to heat up. Light are proton. They not going to do anything if it does not take time.
@@lefthook4878 hell .50BMG to the face even. Sure their skulls are likely to be very hard but it would take a HELL of a lot of bone to stand up to a browning M2 shooting armor piercing rounds.
@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 Tiny 30 cm needle like rockets shot from small civilien sized drones would make a quick end to any giant. They dont even need to explode and might be used multiple times as the target is stil relively soft.
rewatching this video now, i just thought of something: throwing spears and darts, specially with the assistance of spear throwers(or atlatl... or some many other names across much of the world... these things are VERY old). human sized of these can launch spears at the ridiculous speed of 150km per hour, a giant's sheer size would mean they'd accelerate the spear for longer, their strenght would allow the use of heavier spears and i'm getting scared already of how much force these would pack.
@@DavidEllis94 i was about to point out how slings are kinda modern since they use rubber, then i realized just which sling you meant. that said, the sling came as a weapon of war of old, but atlatl are even older... like, one of the earliest human tools ever made. they were used to hunt, and their shape is simple enough that a good tree branch could already be used as one, hardly any craftsmanship involved
I think a sling would be more effective against creatures that are smaller than it, like human to maybe horse sized but atlatls would be more effective against other large creatures, however, the slings would likely be effective as well, making a more generalized weapon, so it would likely be more popular among giant warriors.
@@anzol4523 a rock from a sling has the advantage that it's more likely to hit more people in a shot, so a sling will probably be better against humans, but spears would probably be better vs other giants.
Ravener The best weapon for Giants would be the sling. Cheap but deadly. Getting hit by a stone thrown from Giants sling is Equalevent to getting hit by a 60lb stone launched from a Román Onager Catapault but one that can Quickly get out of melée range.
samuel hagberg Hobbits wouldnt kill giants worth shit, unless they had access to rocket launchers, heavy machine guns and nukes. Even then a hobbit sized machine guns would probably just piss them off and wake the whole camp. Lets face it raw physical strength is extremely overpowered in even modern battle because it allows you to wear heavy armor that shrugs off fire from smaller creatures while your assault rifle fires fucking tank shells.
They could poison their supplies, blind them or stab them without them noticing (depending on the giant's size) and then infect them with diseases. If they could not stab the giant's without the them noticing that means that the giant's aren't really big enough to survive being stabbed through the throat several times at once by multiple smaller humanoids while they are sleeping. Additionally, they could also infest them with insects that burrow away at flesh, something that would be far worse to deal with for a giant since those insects are even smaller (and therefore harder to extract) compared to a giant. Let's face it: brains triumph over brawn.
Filip Ferenčak Only in idealized fantasy books. In reality police can beat up intellectuals whenever they feel like it. Brute force > all, this includes technological superiority. The thing is that besides inventing new toys for the brawny guys to use, being super intelligent is basically completely useless.
everything has a loophole those who use force can be overcome by simply redirecting said force.brains and brawn together works best .what good is a weapon if you are too stupid to use it? it is just a worthless piece of junk. the best way to overcome a large enemy is with brains and speed. traps and deception. war is deception.
Yeah, and depending on the construction of the weapon and technique used, most humans would get decapitated by the first swing, any survivors who ducked would be drenched in gore and probably panic and try to run, meaning easy pickings for the giants using the slings and rocks as big or bigger than human heads. Hell, in a pinch, using the humans' severed heads as sling ammo could be a potentially deadly shock tactic. Decapitate a regiment sent to kill you, sling their severed heads over the wall of the castle that sent them, and watch the puny man-things shit themselves in terror before you demolish their walls and destroy everything they own for their offenses.
Exactly! That's the first thing I thought when I saw the thumbnail, with humans reaching the giants knees. But I would change the blade to something more like a scimitar, so that a pesky heavily armoured human would slide off the blade instead of geting stuck on it. And I don't think a double edged blade is a good idea for a scythe. The balance of the scythe comes from "dragging" the blade behind the handles. For a double edged schyte, it's probably better to put one blade on each end. Put the right end down and sweep right to left, lift the right end up, put down the left end and sweep left to right.
Crazy "out of the box" thought when you mentioned overheating. Dragons existed, but, there wings were for cooling them down, not for flying. The dragons would flap there wings and create a current but would NEVER leave the ground and they knew it. If they were cold there wings were solar panels absorbing heat. But a fighting dragon would flap its wings both disorienting its attacker or prey and cooling Its self off at the same time. Imagine it, really. The fact that it's plausable is kinda scary.
@@ragnarbjarnason2386 Think of how much mass is tied to that Dragon. When young and small, superb, it can glide, it might even be able to generate a bit of lift. But after a certain size, that's a no go. I like Jacob's idea however and I will use that in future RPGs ^^
@@ragnarbjarnason2386 dragons from Skyrim or Game of thrones have waaaaay to small wings to allow any form of flight. These wings would also have to be incredibly strong, because a dragon 10 times bigger than a normal bird would weight 1000 times more, not 10 times more. (Plus scales which are incredibly heavy for flying animals)
@@michac.8283 I always figured that since they breathed fire, they could heat up the air within them to fly in a way similar to hot air balloons, and flapping their wings generated thrust and cooled them externally too.
@@andrewpenn1145 well that would not work that well. Hot air floats upwards because it's less dense than cold air. If we stuffed a dragon with a lot of hot air, it wouldn't lift it because compressing air won't make it float more, white quite the opposite actually (because it becomes denser)
I'm so proud of myself. When he was describing the height of humans compared to giants and the need for reach I actually said "harvesting scythe." I was kind of joking, but I was so happy when he actually started talking about it.
ok now talk about winged people, bird people and flying races I feel like that would be interesting cause they would need to be light and frail to be able to fly
I wonder if you could make specially designed armors that let air go under it for cooling purpose. That said, many giants seem to be covered in massive amounts of fur already in fantasy, which implies that like strength, their cooling capacity is ridiculously high and overcompensate the square-cube loss.
Apologies, but I don't think that's true. A larger creature has a larger surface area to lose heat from, elephants can survive in extreme heat based on that exact principle; capiliaries in their large, fan like ears and wrinkly skin. For large mammals the problem is generally getting and keeping warm, not the opposite, that's why large cold-blooded creatures have been far more common than large warm-blooded creatures. Look at bears and whales, both have to eat tons (literally), to keep their bodies warm in the trying times and both have excellent insulation. Perhaps I just misunderstood what you meant by 'rejecting heat'.
Team Cap Thanks for the explanation, that all makes perfect sense, for a cube and as a principle of volume.I also understand now what the original poster was getting at. I don’t think that is easily applicable to a giant because it isn’t a cube, nor is an elephant which is why it’s ears are relevant, circulatory systems and appendages being different/not cubed. It would be interesting to know how the efficiency of perspiration in cooling larger humans fits in.
@Team Cap I am not going to pretend to be an expert on physics or thermo-dynamics. That being said, my basic understanding of principles that have kept me alive in -45 degrees celsius give me enough confidence to say that a cube of cotton wool has a different properties to a cube of blubber for example, they don't insulate equally well and that is further mitigated when you take into account circulation. I have had frostbite, my torso was still toasty warm while my fingers had frozen. Frostbite happens because your body cuts off circulation to extremities because the extremities lose heat quicker than the torso. That might conform to the idea that our more voluminous torsos lose temperature less quickly, but it also supports my point that the volume isn't equal across the entire organism and different parts of our bodies lose heat or retain heat differently. That's before we even talk about density etc. I'm not trying to say you are wrong about greater volumes, but that rule doesn't take into account the circulatory system, generation of heat via muscle use (shivering for example), restriction of flow to conserve heat and the differences in the tissues that make up our bodies; fat and muscle are different. This is a fact: You lose far more heat from your head than your torso. Therefore, a flat calculation of my volume will not tell you exactly how quickly I lose heat. How long my hair is, whether I am wearing tinfoil on my head or a hat will affect my ability to keep or lose heat, just like the elephants flappy ears allow it to cool the heat inside that giant voluminous torso. I appreciate you taking the time to explain the idea to me, but I don't think it can be so easily applied to living creatures and their ability to regulate temperature, there are far more variables than just volume.
That's also why you see the large elephants have such wide ears that are used as heat radiators, with blood circulating in them and increasing their surface, while smaller animals don't have such features.
The last giant south of the wall. Beyond the wall the wildling army dispersed and everyone fled in different directions including the giants that survived the siege of castle black. Also their king died so they had no motivations to fight anymore.
literally, throughout the entirety of this video I was thinking "farmers scyth, literally cut them down like wheat." I Got so psyched when he actually brought it up.
I feel like a ball on a chain, morningstar, or a whip would be pretty effective as well, if swung low to the ground. Whips would maybe be less costly than a giant scythe if they want to save metal. Axes could work pretty well in place for a scythe. Slingshots and crossbows would be pretty effective as well, and giants could defend tons of regular troops from arrow fire with a large shield. They could also hurl molotov like projectiles maybe, and kamikaze giants could serve as drawbridges or battering rams depending on the giant's and the moat's size.
So essentially giants should be nigh-unkillable and highly mobile artillery. Also thank you for bringing up the square-cube law. I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I doubt a giant would even run, as it would be too damaging to the knees, ankles and spine. Still, with such long strides they'd move plenty fast anyway, and it's not like you'd use them as skirmishers.
I would see them in a more stationary fighting for they would have already would have a huge long range advantage. It would be easier on them to let the enemy come to them.
Considering that Elephants can run (and fairly fucking fast!), I think they could run or atleast fast-walk and outrun any human. They might not be able to jump without buckling their knees, and getting up from a bad fall might take them a lot of time.
Jeez, when you mentioned the Scythe, I physically cringed. I had this image in my head of the last time I saw someone mowing with a scythe and how quickly they cleared that field. Absolutely brutal.
I'm actually thinking that a scythe wouldn't be a very effective weapon at all against armoured foes. Basically swinging a sword at armour. It wouldn't cut through anything. The sheer force of the swing would simply push the first guy against the one standing next to him etc, a few people would be knocked to the ground, and would just get back up. the first guy might have some kind of injury due to the impact of the scythe against his armour, but everyone else would be just fine.
bram callebert But what about a scythe modified in reach to behead humans, like Shad suggested? I really doubt the neck would have that much protection. The most one could do is duck under the scythe, but then you’d be a sitting duck face-to-face with the giant’s boot...
A couple of things to consider. First, unlike hands, you need your feet to stand on. I'm not sure if using their feet as the primary weapons would be the best idea for giants. I don't think it's unlikely that humans would figure out a way to trip the giants or pull them down once they have a foot off the ground. As you say, it's going to take some time for them to get their limbs up to speed. The other thing is, the square-cube law means that it's actually harder for larger animals to get rid of heat. You have eight times the volume producing heat, but only four times the surface area to dissipate it. Animals that live near the poles are larger than their counterparts that live near the equator. Compare the polar bear to the asian black bear, for example. It's because larger animals retain heat better than smaller animals. Thick gambeson would be quite a bad idea for giants, and they'd overheat very quickly.
Yes, are bigger and so they have other ways to deal with heat. Elephants are almost completely hairless, so , unlike a bear, heat isn't trapped by fur. Elephants also have very large and thin ears. These work like radiators and get rid off heat. My point was that between similar animals, say one type of bear compared to another type of bear, the one living in the colder climate will generally be the larger of the two, since bigger things retain more heat.
Agreed on the general counts regarding heat retention across large & small creatures. I wouldn't personally debate from the point of climate where the animals live though, other factors come to play. So it should not require a sharp engineer mind to make sense of the fact that the larger the surface area to volume ratio of any object, better the heat exchange. Then comes the more mathematical part - put together a simple spreadsheet to calculate the surface area & volume of any regular geometrical object like a cube or sphere, then, its area : volume ratio. You will find that as the length or diameter of the object increases, the area : volume ratio will decrease. Hence a quantitative proof that a larger object or creature will exchange heat slower as compared to smaller ones.
it doesn't matter. just get a couple of your giant buddies and some slings. fuck kicking them. just stand a thousand or so meters away with a pile of rocks.
A giant with a club or a mace is awsome... But a harvester giant with a sikle is amazingly insane... And far better: an orgarmic sling! I want to be a giant now
What's cool is that such a huge sling could be somehow effective even at short range working as a mace if necessary I think.. who would approach that Another option would be a properly sized flyswatter.. a MANSWATTER, in medieval time it could just be a very large broom made of branches and SWAP SWAP SWAP people swapped on a larger area than a club, ranks of people flying away.
Alright going to borrow some attack on titan for this one even though their giants are more titans (pun fully intended) rather than giants. So there's this one smart (beast) titan that grabs on to a bunch of rocks (or you can just grab a boulder and crush it, the point is, many many numerous hard objects) and just throw it at the target basically a shotgun of sorts. If a human can throw rocks to deal significant damage, scale that up to the strength of a giant and you'll be faced with a very very dangerous foe plus the attack's ranged so good luck in getting close to cut it down to size or whatever. Any contraptions like siege crossbows or cannons will be destroyed easily, the only way to advance would be high mobility but there's only so much space on the ground you can run around before being pelted by a range of different sized objects being hurled at you with a high velocity. Another idea for a weapon would be a lawnmower of sorts/giant rake/broom (an object that can easily sweep things off the ground) , no need for it to be sharp to reduce self injury. All that's left is how creative you wanna get when killing pesky humans running about.
Me remembering darksouls “hawkeye gough was a giant who used a giant bow and was badass with it” also giants used warhammers and halberds along with tower shields In that game
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Giant can't live because they need a lot of food and giant can't feed themself because of their giant hand so their life would only rely on human and if their life is relying on human they would be extinct in the first place because can't survive.
Giant + sling = cannon that doesn't need gunpowder. And anyone who knows history knows how destructive can be a cannon volley against a group of infantry.
@@2toxic2play8 wouldn't be nearly as effective against groups as a sling. especially when you consider that with a sling the giant could use just about anything as ammo.
So that was a thought I had. A human could very easily use a shield (the ones with the spike on the bottom) to stop a scythe. Just kneel and put the shield in front of your front feet. That will block the scythe and prevent it from striking anyone else. That would be a giant (pun intended) problem for the... Well... Giant.
I think that a giant would have more than enough force to bring down any shield with a reasonably long spike. Keep in mind that a longer spike, although it would defend better against a giant, would be harder and more time-consuming to place.
Paul Jones I was talking about the shields that have a spiked bottom. This way you could nail it to the ground relatively easily and quick and if you support the bottom part of the shield with your knee nothing can bring it down...
You're backwards on your heat idea. Although they have more surface area, they've grown volume at twice the rate. They'd have more issue with overheating than cooling off to fast
@@WynnofThule um... Dude. The Titans have the mass of a normal human. So they would actually cool better than a human. I don't think it's established why they are so hot.
@@plzletmebefrank They seem to be like trees. They use sunlight for power, and it seems alot of them is hollow with CO2 gas, just like how the carbon from CO2 is the most common thing in a tree.
The big problem with trying to improve history in schools is that no one along the political spectrum can agree on how to do it, so you get these little nudges to keep it up to date in terms of content, and do nothing to actually make it better.
Stone throwing for a giant, on average, ive always taken to the level of hardest/fastest atheletic human feat i know of. (Zdeno Chara slapshot, 141kms/hr). Note thats an average toss. Average. Now scale that up. Top end throw? Id suggest 250 kms/hr. A proper sling?? Fuck top end they might break the fucking sound barrier. With a projectile the size of your head, and likely near 30lbs or so. M×Vsq=F. Look i dont need to figure distribution of force over boulder area. Your about to get utterly flattened. That is 4545 Newtons of force. For perspective, Chara's 'monstrous' slapshot? Converting to units used. A hockey puck is like .375lbs and that shot is 39.2 m/sSQ. So is 6.67 Newtons of force and can break bones. That is a multiplicative factor of 681.4 times the force. FUCKING HELL!!!
Couldn't the giants devise some sort of specialized sling specifically for combat against armies of humans rather than for sieging castles? I'm thinking something that would throw multiple rocks that seem medium sized (to us). Like a handheld grapeshot killing multiple human soldiers at a time at range.
That's just a cannon with an exploding shell, which you could already make in this context since you have the gunpowder and steel in the first place. You could also just use a small cannon and annihilate a giant. Guns ruin everything, basically.
@@sgtrazorclaw3205 Not really. Giants with giant guns are just artillery made of flesh. The trick with guns is to not be hit, and when you're GIANT that's pretty hard.
@@rolandcaters7258 Who's we? The whole purpose of these videos is to apply some realism to fantasy. If we're all just going to ignore any sort of realism, we wouldn't need a thirty minute video to hash out what kind of weapons and armor giants should use. Clubs, boulders, and hides it would be.
The bigger the giant is, the more their ideal weapon approaches a flyswatter
A giant with sufficient size can make a broom stronger than most bombs.
@Eric Nunya Well, they didn't say how many bombs, just that it would be stronger than most of them. I suppose that most (amount) of the world's supply of firecrackers piled up could still do a lot of damage.
More than a broom at least.
@@CapitainCutlet Imagine a giant with a sling throwing grenades packed with five pounds of gunpowder and five pounds of nails.
@@emmitstewart1921 that's an interesting idea.
maybe they should smack people to death?
As technology progresses, the Giants start to show up on the battlefield with their lawn mowers.
then... Giant Roombas
Two words, driving lawnmowers...
The weed wacker of death.
A cavalery attack comprised of a Giant fromation stampede with weaponized 2-weeled wheelbarrows with 2 bowmans , followed by a second row with scythes to cleanup the who ones made it through the gaps. Each Giant having one instant legolas bowman on the back to keep clear from annoying sneak attacks.
Lol
"Checkmate David I have a sling too."- Goliath
The first thing I thought was "There is some inherent irony to this."
Luke Hathcock same with how merfolk best weapon against land people are hooks and nets
And that was the invention of the Trebuchet...
more like... octbuchet :D
''check mate the entire village over there''
Someone has maybe brought this up before, but...
Re: giants weaponizing their feet - in the Chronicles of Narnia books, when giants were preparing to go into battle at one point, they all sat down to put on spiked boots.
Good thinking, C.S. Lewis!
I just mentioned CS Lewis the other day when pointing out how often Bullies in school end up being a favorite of some school administrator and end up doing their bullying below the radar. (The Silver Chair)
@@MrSheckstr what?
@@MrSheckstr The Silver Chair is so good, probably my fav part
You kinda made me want to reread it
They also threw rocks at Jill and Eustace and Puddleglum in The Silver Chair book. They barely escaped by going into an underground tunnel.
David wouldn't have been so lucky if Goliath had a sling too.
Goliath had a sword? Why didn't he just throw the pommel at David?
Well because a Giant is strong and is amused about the fact that a human could win against a Giant.
It was luck. Goliath was too stupid to have a shield...
Even with a sling Goliath would probably lose. Sure, the giant slingshot would be a deadly weapon when you fire it, but to fire it you need to get a couple of spins out. Considering that it is giant, accelerating to necessary speed would be much slower, David would probably be able to fire 3-4 shots before Goliath would throw his thing.
Goliath’s pride was what felled him. He was arrogant and cocky.
If a human-sized pommel can end a foe rightly...
Imagine what a giant-sized pommel can do... *shudders*
they could end a *castle* rightly!
matthew hurley Or a small hilltop rightly!
the universe
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But what about a dragon sized pommel?
Giants in shad's mind: "Honey, I'm going to go out and trim the humans" "Alright, have fun"
Chrona Trigger
xD made my day ^^
Wut about a giant carrying a ballista
@Henry DallOglio I think a giant with a bow would be a ballista bucko. why not a giant with one of those gigantic crossbows that required 2 people to fire except scaled up to giant size? That would probably be like a super ballista assuming you could bend the string without getting it permanently stuck, from what I understand the string on that particular crossbow was made of metal, and even if you made a gigantic spring-steel string that was 4 times thicker, they are still bending it farther back because of the larger surface area of the crossbow putting more abuse on the metal. Not to mention, that I’m pretty sure metal becomes less resilient the thicker it is.
A giant does not simply trim space marines
@@armorman55 In the Imperium of Man, Space Marines trim you... well till some other overpowered super soldier/weapon kills them, then another over powered super soldier/weapon kills them, and so on and so forth.... OVERPOWERED IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.
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"Eyes without life, maggot-ridden corpses, mountains of skulls. These are some of my favorite things." - Dracon Borkor
"Beep Boop Die" - Necrons
"Insert random alien biomass gurgling and screams here" - Tyrinid
"The Greater good" - The Night's Watch Alliance, HotFuzz... I mean Tau.
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As soon as you mentioned scythe, I got this uncomfortable feeling. Comparing humans to grass or crop getting cut is a really sinister thought. Imagine giant just casually mowing his way through fields of people.
The fear factor alone would cause armies to flee. Especially being that cloth is the best armor, the giant could be dressed in a layered cloak with a scary masked helm. People would think death himself has come to decimate them, and they wouldnt even be wrong!
@@lukemarquardt9745 Yeah fear can't be underestimated. But just the thought of being set into the role of a harvestable crop is already unsettling.
"Death rides a Lawnmower" coming to theaters next Halloween.
This film is rated "R".
golf club
Lets take a moment to appreciate that Shad took time out of the beginning of this video to give a shoutout to a completely unrelated channel simply because he liked their content.
Un Sacapuntas
I actually was subscribed to them before Shad so when I saw him give a shout-out, I was pleasantly surprised
Because he's just that lovable.
A true gentleman
he is just the best
It’s a good channel. Specifically Red’s videos, I don’t really care for Blue’s.
Shad do a series on the best weapon humans can use against fantasy races
Absolutely!
Fairies. They fly and they're on the other end of the height/mass scale.
Yes please!
fairies are a magic based race. it would not be a easy race to arm with weapons to fight. in myth fairies are annoying not dangerousness per say.
Weaponized fly swatter... perhaps a metal-wire tennis racquet?
Shad, I just realized that a giant would be the best medieval weapon to fight a dragon.
I'm pretty sure giants are the dragons' worst enemy in dnd
@@StarryxNight5 ye they are
Give them something like a halberd and a sling as well as protection against fire breath and that dragon doesn't stand much of a chance (correct me if I'm wrong in the weapon choice of halberd)
@@alexanderthegreat6682 with dragons youd want to stay as far away as possible due how many ways they can kill you, youd most likely want a long spear or cross bows with fire bolts and or what ever element they are weak to,and a large round sheild would be better then a sling ,due to the fact that dragons have claws and teeth that could bite throuh a sling
@@alexanderthegreat6682 Tennisracket/tennisketcher..
"I help any time."
-- Giant archer friend in Dark Souls 3.
*Predator Missiles some poor hollow schmuck*
So what I'm hearing is that the absolute best melee weapon for a giant would be a combination of a scythe and a club...?
Giants are the best golf players in fantasy
just imagine playing golf with heads of your enemies
@@ofal5124 I heard a tale of one man that charged a warchief with a club and, with a single swing, took the chief's head clean off. It sailed a hundred yards through the air and landed in a rabbit hole. Thus, the battle was won and the game of golf invented at the same time
@@WhiteSheetCoverUp1 Hobbit reference right?
They'd probably be awesome at street hockey too!
@@WhiteSheetCoverUp1 . It PA
(maniacl laughter) You just turned a giant into an evil gardener!!!!!
Time to Harvest....muahhahahaha
Just yes yes
Wyatt Schaefer blood makes the grass grow
I don't think he realizes that those have been used in in history
Just give the giant a great shield that is in relation to its size and let it charge through.
When a dog is trying nip at you, do "you lean down and punch it?"
No. I bite the dog back.
that only confirms that you believe it's a threat. You need to hump it to assert dominance :D
Dogs wont bite you if you run towards them. They aren't stupid they know they only have one mode of attack so if you attack first they wont try to bite you they'll run.
Tip of the day
Based
Just... Wtf
@@Noctua8 oh I know
Fantasy: The bones of giants are not made out of calcium, but out of certain rare metal alloys. This enables them to be as nimble as smaller humanoids. However, that is also why giants have been hunted to extinction in some regions.
okay... so can we ask question?
WHAT THE HELL WERE THESE PEOPLE USING TO CASUALLY KILL GIGAN WITH METAL BONES?
@@ofal5124 Magic... i guess...
imagine having super conductive metal bones and going against someone that can yeet lightning bolts in your face
@@ofal5124 I really can't imagine any way that you would try to kill a giant that would require breaking bones. If your spear hits a rib and not an organ, you've fucked up whether the ribs are made of metal or of calcium (which is also a metal, technically). The goal is to get around the bones.
I think pure carbon that structures itself as diamond is everything you need.
@@ofal5124 cleverness, their environment, etc. Get the high ground, throw a spear into its throat. It's a hard throw, but not impossible. Likely, though, they'd be hunted by an industrial society with need for metal, so gunpowder becomes a factor.
I think it's really great, that you recommend and link other youtubers and building some form of community instead of seeing them as competitors, because we are all interested in the same topics and the more opinions, the better!
well when you can easily watch multiple videos, they don't need to compete as much, especially when they recommend other channels those channels might recommend then back. it's a win win situation
My thoughts exactly, the more other channels grow the more everyone benefits ^_^
Shadiversity - I've been thinking about scythes for giants for some time as well. Then my mind has wandered a bit more towards Warhammer 40k territory and I just saw a beautiful image of a giant with a chainsaw on a scythe pole, absolutely grinding through any infantry :D #chainscythesforgiants
now... what would a giant's war scythe look like? would it have a hammer end at the back?
Wouldn't a giant chain be bloody brilliant for a Giant too?
So what you’re saying is, a giant could use a sling to launch a 90kg projectile over 600 metres?
the mobile trebuchet xD
Truly, giants are the superior siege weapon.
Even better give a giant a swarm of humans and have them build a giant powered trebuchet and have like 30 gaints use it to luanch a 200kg projectile over 1500 meters.
@@dragonwithamonocle I totally agree.
A Giant with a giant sized bow is a mobile ballista.
A Giant with a sling is a mobile trebuchet.
A Giant with a golf club is...
probably not a siege weapon but still good xD
Giant with a flail is a literal wrecking ball.
Give it padded armor, a tower shield and a sling for range and you have a mobile siege tower that walks right up to the gate or walls and proceeds to knock them down.
I'm now looking at giants as a viable option to build D&D military units lol
A giant with a sling, so basically a muscle powered cannon
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Imagine the size of a giant built siege weapon we could load and launch larger things
I think they might be able to damge tanks with this sling those Giants
Now give them explosive rocks.
@@tridentrex0576 we call those grenades
"Ooh, a sling. Thats cute. Wait till you see mine." - Goliath
I don’t remember David and Goliath going this way
Indecently, David never killed Goliath with a sling, he just stunned him and used Goliath's own sword to make the killing blow... according to the myth.
@@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith Goliath fell over and David claimed his head with his sword which probably was the initial kill.
LMFAO
Damn should've brought storm ruler
Holy damn, scythe and sling both make a ton of sense... Guess what's happening in my next D&D campaign. LOL
End your Player Characters rightly
They ofc have spike boots right?
Depends on type of giant
Hill giants
Stone giants
Fire giants
Spiked boots, a sling, a scythe, and a whip. Welp. My players are fucked. :)
Lots of death
Obviously the best weapon for a giant when fighting humans, or any opponent significantly smaller, is a golf club, Because not only is it lethal as a melee weapon my with practice you could turn the victims into projectiles. :P
lol
That's so evil
'zackley...not to mention Lacrosse and Hockey sticks
Lawn scythe
Edit: just got to the end of the vid. turns out i was on the money.
But it was a hobbit who invented golf
Ha jokes on you. I'm already subscribed to them.
Same
Josh Evans ditto
Josh Evans sammmmeeee
same
Same, lol
But if giants are such perfect soldiers, the enemy would likely use them as well, so what would be the best weapons for giant v. giant warfare? Maybe a halberd or war-pick/axe and shield combo?
I think comically long pikes, a lot of comically long pikes. Something like the Macedonian phalanx (idk how it is said in English, i hope i wrote that correctly)
Now, imagine a giant with a giant war-bow and boots with spikes... Terrifying
@@tizio3306 you've got it right
fucking whole trees as spears and I mean the 100m long trees kind it's a club and a spear
Since giants have 8 times the volume to maintain, they'd need a lot more food and water to live.
Maybe they're so prohibitively expensive that only something like Rome could afford a practical army of them. That'd mean that they wouldn't need to consider giant v giant so much.
The moment I saw that title I was thinking Scythe, giant literally mowing down humans
Yeah that was my first idea too. I mean farmers take out fields of grass and plants so quickly, imagine a giant.
or large two handed swords, same effect
@@vlastimilpaluska9682 they would have to crouch to get the same effect.
@@codymcfarland3812 I dont think, if they are only big as twice as human...
@@vlastimilpaluska9682 that depends, that giant from GoT would still benefit from scythe
what about loading the giant's sling with a large number of smaller (lead) pellets? basically you'd get a medieval shotgun with a height advantage.
That's something that happens very similar in the manga of Attack of titan *SPOILERS* A giant sentient titan grabs rocks with his hands, smash the in smaller pieces, and throw the rubble in a baseball fashion decimating hundreds of mounted soldiers in very few throws.
Hmmm I prefer the single large boulder because smaller things can be blocked by walls, shields, trenches and such. If you have one big boulder, good luck trying to block that. I know I know even small pellets are impossibly damaging at that force but if you have like 20 pellets that's at best 20 men, at worse less due to inaccuracy. You wouldn't kill 2 with one pellet in most cases. But with one giant boulder you could get much much more provided they are in a dense enough formation. I guess small pellets are more against spread out formations.
I wonder how giants would fight cavalry...
ruyman90 that scene always bugged me, how fast is he throwing those things that it goes clean through the long side of a horse and still kicks up dirt on the other side?
Not sure how well they would work if only the size of modern shot without having a higher velocity than seems practical with a sling. You could make them larger though perhaps about the size and weight of a musket ball old muskets didn't exactly shoot particularly fast but were still effective with balls that size.
They could take two cannonball sized stones or metal balls, chain them together, and either sling them into groups of enemy or throw them. I imagine that would be devastating.
Ya know, you were really enthused about the centrifugal force a Giant could put behind a sling so I was surprised you never mentioned a particular melee weapon. The flail.
xbox432 flail with bladed chain. Combine some of the rotational energy of the sling (without releasing a projectile) with the lawn mower effect of the scythe and the large hit box of the club. How is this not a thing?
i would give the Giant a naginata it is a medival weapon (just from the other end of the world). I think it would be better then a scythe
Flail would be OP. I was thinking flail or even just a chain the whole time. It would be light for the giant, and would magnify his force tremendously through it's length. Speed would not be an issue as the tip would accelerate fast and with the length of the chain would be able to cut swathes of foes down.
chain would break.
Cassandra depends on the material's tensile strength, thickness, and methods of manufacture, now wouldn't it? Could be that with a chain using inch thick steel appropriately welded it could withstand the force. However, I'm not a materials genius, so it's quite possible steel would weigh itself down faster than buulding the sufficient strength. Fantasy provides all sorts of super metals that are incredibly strong yet lightweight, so perhaps an adamantium, mithril, or other super metal would be more than sufficient.
you know what i like about this channel? the fact that we are sitting here, listening to shad seriously break down what "GIANTS" would use as weapons.... and then i look to the right and the play next shows "what weapons would snake people really use?"... THAT is why i like this channel.
A giant with a sling. The irony is real!
BURKE SULLIVAN jokes on you david, i habe a sling too
They had them but were too proud to use them in one-on-one combat, especially against normal sized foreigners.
He literally hadn't taken a break from laughing at young David before he was struck dead.
Daivd was a sheperd so the only weapons he was proficient with was a shepherd's Crook and The Rock sling
From a biological point of view, a larger animal is actually worse at dissipating heating, again due to the square cube law. For doubled size, there is quadruple the surface area to dissipate the heat, but 8 times the internal volume, that is 8 times of cells inside to produce heat. This is actually a phenomenon common in real life. A very large animal, say an elephant, consumes much less food in proportion to its body weight than a very small animal, say a mouse. So in some sense, many fantasy work depicting giants living in high mountains where the weather is cold is actually fairly realistic, as their body could handle, maybe even very comfortable in such an environment. If giants lived under hotter climates, they probably would evolve some sort of capability to better dissipate heat, or just live in water, like hippos.
Kai Xiang I always pictured ice giants when someone is talking about giants
elephants actually slow their metabolisms to prevent them from boiling. their cells mitochodria literally just work less to avoid the heat issue. so i visualise realistic giants living day to day in this low power state and being able to, when in adrenaline rush, accelarate to full power for limited bursts in combat before they begin to overheat and need to fall back. perhaps they would wear the padding on their legs and waist and mail on their torso to allow airflow while defending against arrows. also they would begin turning red as they fight as their blood rushes to their skin surface to dissipate heat. perhaps the tactics in war would be an initial assulat by giants and by the time the rest of the army catches up the giants are overheated and can rest behind the lines and fire rocks until they are cooled enough to rush into battle again.
I love the biological-physics discussion around this :-)
But before they overheat they would already have collapsed under their own weight
@@Julian-pw5mv Elephants don't do that. Giants could probably exist in real life, but they would have to develop differently from humans, most likely putting more strength in their legs then in their arms. This would also mean it would be less useful to throw things which is probably why humans didn't evolve to be giant.
Giants lifting less proportionally to humans makes sense when you remember ants can left proportionally more then humans
"What do you mean, bigger weapon? I can barely even lift your puny sticks!"
Well, giants based on real life physics would lift proportionately less, yeah. Fantasy giants aren't necessarily restrained by that.
@some kinda guy You're kinda leaving out the whole exoskeleton thing ants have going on. It's a big factor.
Yeah but, people don't wear natural bone armour.
And I can lift a fuck ton more then an ant I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure a giant would be strong af
Imagine a combine-harvester-sized push-mower! That'd be an army-killer, and all the giant has to do is push!
Giant: "**i may be dumb as a stump, but i can still hit you with a stump**"
It's time for big brain thinks
"This is my crowbar... I call him Mr. Crowbar."
Me: That's stupid.
Also me: *gets head beaten in*
"Yeah, well look where being smart got you."
@@theenigma6160 Mr. Crowbar disagrees.
A Giant with an electric grass trimmer would be neat.
@@ericolens3 In a world where Giants exist and are using grass trimmer, climate change would be the least of my concerns. :D And how much methan does a giant release per fart?
Grass trimmer = modern scythe
Or just a manual one. You know, moving it causing the blades to spin since the wheels and blades and linked.
yep that was my thought -those old school weed wackers...basically a bladed golf club....or a scythe, flail, or even a bola (basically cannon chain shot at that size)
I still think a manual push mower would be terrifying. Maybe have it a bit higher off the ground as well as scaled up.
Giant with a club; this’ll be easy
Giant with a sling and padded armor; why do I hear boss music?
edit: yo holy crap thanks for the 600+ likes
someone tell fromsoft, we found their next boss fight
What about a giant long bow?
Its range and power would be better than a ballista!
@@charadreemurr8673 check out this video ua-cam.com/video/BBRG0T7jjsc/v-deo.html
Shoot em with a ballista bolt
God of War has entered the chat. 😏
You: So how'd you win?
Giant: Well... I threw a rock at him!!
It was a big rock!
You are in a constant state of complete awe once you start talking about giants with slings. I enthusiastically join you in this state of amazement.
But a chain bola would bet better verses an army on a battlefield. Where a normal bola can kill or ensnare a giants bola would do club like area damage.
I was scouting around the enemy's castle at night, a good half a kilometre away from the walls in a large grass field to stay well out of sight. This was said to be one of if not the most highly protected castle in all of the land. It had three exterior walls, between which was a fifty-meter gap filled with oil that could be set ablaze at any time. All three walls had their own battlements and dozens of men that lived at each of the walls to keep a constant eye out for intruders and to rain armour-piercing arrows upon anyone that was deemed a threat. My goal was simple: find a weak point in their defences, and report back.
Suddenly I froze as a light appeared behind me. I cautiously turned around and couldn't believe what I saw. It was a giant. These were creatures of myth, that you would tell your kids about to scare them into doing their household duties, but you never really believed that they existed. These towering beasts were three to four times the size of a man with limbs like tree trunks and were said to be strong enough to knock aside a dozen armoured soldiers at a time. Their armour was supposed to be centimetres thick leather armour, with steel helmets so thick they could withstand a hit from a battering ram. Only siege level weapons were supposed to be able to take down these beasts.
The giant had just lit an oily rock on fire that was at least the size of a horse's head. The behemoth put it in a sling that looked like it should be attached to a trebuchet, not wielded by hand. He started swinging it around, slowly at first, but slowly gaining speed. After a few short seconds, the sling was swinging so fast a low but incredibly loud hum was emanating from it, the flaming boulder just an orange ring illuminating the giant.
I could see torchlight frantically moving around the castle barracks. The castle guards had seen the attacker but were hopelessly unprepared for what came next.
An ear-shattering SNAP echoed into the night as the living siege weapon let go of one end of the sling. The enormous projectile approaching the castle at speeds that rivalled a ballista. With a gigantic CRASH, the boulder punched a hole clean through the first and second layers of the castle wall, stopping inside the third wall, but somehow the walls stayed standing. They didn't fare so well after the second shot though. I watched in horror as rock after rock was hurled at the castle until the entire castle was nothing but a pile of flaming stone rubble. After observing the destruction he had caused, the giant walked off into the night. The most secure place inside or outside the kingdom had just been destroyed as if it was a sandcastle, and I didn’t know what to think.
Great Work!
@@blackwaters26 Thank you!
why is this so low. thumbs up
Truly captures the sheer horror of having a Giant on the battlefield.
@@fermosofiore1336 lol I disliked because of leather armour.
What about golf clubs?
"FORE"
Magmafrost13 but only Scottish giants.
they're just a fancy tree trunk.
Iconoclasm_ fe. fi. FORE! fum.
Armenian metal You did it. You won
So a giant is a nimble siege tower with either a human-punter club or a Ballista-strength Longbow!
Or both
Give them a large shovel. They can just scoop up the humans and just throw them away, hahaha. Would make for a hilarious battle.
Or scoop up some dirt and use it as a spray attack
I'll go you one better. Giant hockey stick. Slap shot a guy into the rest of his squad and watch them fly. BOOM.
Fucking golf club
I'm putting this in a session.
@@MistaOppritunity Please post a vid telling us how it goes when you do.
Skyrim giants are scary enough, we dont need to give them slings and rocks...
Too bad that's not something we can mod into the game.... x)
They become way less scary when you get behind them and instantly kill them with a glass dagger to the leg
@@Draco-ii3ot its so fun doing x24 sneak damege as a orc
Agreed. Although, it would result in less Dragonborn corpses in orbit and more on the ground.
We don't wanna cancel the Nordic Space Program 🤣
Beast titan from AOT throwing rocks seems even more terrifying now
Ikr
Completely decimating whole squads and fleets of men. Holy shit
SONOTORI
Imagine him with a sling
And imagine warhammer titan using a sythe
I'm going to call it now before I watch: A fly swatter.
No
If used right, the tower shield could mow down enemies and double as a mass shelter for Allies against projectile weaponry.
Kind of what i thought, imagine giants forming shield walls, and clubbing humans in front of them, humans could do shit in melee. They'd need catapults and scorpions.
@@eltrox1 so they become a moving fortress
This is a good point
I believe the D&D 5e has a fire giant that wields two tower shields for this exact purpose.
@@kaoticmaster01 the Fire Giant Dreadnaut, yes
Aha, thank you, i can use this knowledge to destroy kindergartners half my size when they FortNite dance at me
*Scythe swooping intensifies*
Try dealing with their parents and their damn lawyers after you scythed them
@@lwzeis did you really have to suck the fun out of this comment?
After defeating them show them a true gamer’s pose... the mighty T!! T pose and tbag viciously
@@lwzeis bring a pistol, or even better a shotgun to end them rightly
In one of my D&D campaigns, I had it so that some giants would equip themselves with lengths of spiked chains which they would use to just sweep through enemy formations with wide swings. At one point I had a particularly cruel giant wrap the chain between both hands, lean close to the ground, and charge straight toward the PCs while mowing down everything in between like some kind of fantasy killdozer. Needless to say, the PCs were utterly terrified of chain-wielding giants from that point onward.
Psychopaths really make good DMs lol
Run! Giants with Slings!
*Whips
The Oliphant technique!
a Chain-wielding-Giant Bulldozer, thanks for the nightmare fuel
Having played as an Ogryn in Warhammer 40K Darktide has given me a greater appreciation of what size means in combat. Ogryns are are easily twice the size and width of a normal human, and bonking and bullying hordes of little humans from a first-person perspective was very eye-opening. If you can knock someone on their feet they're much easier to beat in combat, and with the height, strength and leverage I feel like this would be a big tactic of giants on things more approaching their height, or if your fiction has giants that aren't house sized (or if they vary greatly between types).
Another thing this made me think of was the trope I mostly saw in superhero cartoons growing up, where there's a big dude who's gotten a hold of a little dude (usually the hero). Then invariably throw the little dude away. Why? You have him at your mercy! I mean, I know the real reason is that the cartoon can't keep airing if the villain of one episode crushes the hero while he's helpless, but you get what I mean. I feel like crushing, or even tearing off limbs, is something that large humanoids would do to small humanoids. Heck, chimps do that to monkeys or even other chimps given the chance.
That also made me think, giant chimps would be an absolutely terrifying fantasy monster.
Ogryns don't think
It's kinda ironic that the best weapon for a giant is the same that killed one in the bible,
You mean an oversized sword? (also ironically, the one that the giant had with him)
The sling only knocked him out.
@@briang3598 The sling is what got him killed. The sword was just used to finish him off when he was helpless. You wouldn't even have needed a weapon at that point, just some implement to cut his arteries open.
Llortnerof but the sword killed him
I love how excited and intense Shad gets 23:56
24:25
Ikr
And it is just awesome how much logic thinking, research, visualisation and attention to details he puts into his videos. That is rarely done for comparable content in such a high quality. There is some deeply rooted passion going on.
Thanks for great content!
Muhummad Smith Yeah it's great
what i've gained from watching 12 minutes of this vid: teach giants Capoeira
Lol a giant doing L kicks and spinning heel strikes
Initial movements would be too slow. Also takes too much energy for a giant to perform those things. Would much rather have my giants use simpler but effective means to decimate my enemy's forces
Have them riverdance. Far more effective.
OH ME WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?
Imagine a giant Eddy Gordo
Actually, I think that, in a massed battle, a giant's ranged weapon of choice would be a shot-put. Mainly because it would not go as far as an arrow or a sling. Imagine a giant-sized shot-put landing in the middle of an enemy formation, and then bouncing! It would just smash a trail of devastation through half the army.
Kinda funny that you chose a sling a rock for giants. #DavidVsGoliath
goliath smash david with his sling.
Nate Rivera The best weapon for Giants would be the sling. Cheap but deadly. Getting hit by a stone thrown from Giants sling is Equalevent to getting hit by a 60lb stone launched from a Román Onager Catapault but one that can Quickly get out of melée range.
Goliath learned
Imagine Goliath only putting David into his giant sling and twirl him to nothing more than slushy remains like in an overdriven centrifuge...
David only knocked Goliath silly with the sling (or more likely sling-staff since Goliath actually taunts him for 'fighting with a stick' as if he was going against a dog) and because he had an open-faced helmet it hit him in the face. Once he was on the ground however David used Goliath's sword to cut his head off. Then he dragged it all the way to Salem (which would eventually be Jerusalem/City of David) and buried it under Golgotha.
1 Samuel 17: 43 He said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come at me with sticks?” And the Philistine cursed David by his gods.
1 Samuel 17: 48 As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him.
49 Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown on the ground.
50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him.
51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword and drew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword. When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they turned and ran.
Also as a guy who used scythe a lot (in my younger years) I can attest that uneven ground is not a problem if you have enough skill in using it. Scythe is even intentionally designed with this in mind: it's blade is turned slightly upward so if it run on the hillock it bounces up and runs over it instead of cutting into it.
DoctorM42 i kinda what to see a giant with a giant sized weed wacker that would be hilarious.
Giants would make a killing in the lawn-care business.
@@Michael-McCollum aiming at me or y enemy? because I'd rather not imagine being blown to shreds by what would more than likely equate to a living A-10 Warthog in sheer power.
How about a really large magnifying glass.
🤔
Imagine the giant, whistling the whistles as if it is his normal job, mows with a smile.
Oh, that's terrible! 🤣
Lmao 😂😂
And kill them with concentrated sun light. Clever but need resources:
1. Have they envented though glass.
2. The sun itself. Can’t do that during the night.
3. Resources to make the thing.
4. Reach or range of the light beam.
5. The amount of time it need to heat up. Light are proton. They not going to do anything if it does not take time.
I like the idea of a giant lawn mower better.
You can tell Shad loves what he does, because it's so hard for him to avoid going off on tangents about certain topics.
Mhmm, also how energetic he gets. It's almost like he has 100 thoughts t once
@@isdrakon9802 he acts just like a kid on Christmas
Also, I am trying very hard NOT to visualize the true horror of a giant using a scythe of the design you described. That would likely end humanity
That would have ended Humanity. Now we just shoot him with a Rocket off a Drone ;)
@@jackwiedemann no giant is going to stand up to a cruise missile. A MOAB will totally do it. We don't even need to discuss nukes
@@lefthook4878 hell .50BMG to the face even. Sure their skulls are likely to be very hard but it would take a HELL of a lot of bone to stand up to a browning M2 shooting armor piercing rounds.
@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 Tiny 30 cm needle like rockets shot from small civilien sized drones would make a quick end to any giant. They dont even need to explode and might be used multiple times as the target is stil relively soft.
You are lucky I Imagined for a Sec and I am having a crisis
rewatching this video now, i just thought of something: throwing spears and darts, specially with the assistance of spear throwers(or atlatl... or some many other names across much of the world... these things are VERY old). human sized of these can launch spears at the ridiculous speed of 150km per hour, a giant's sheer size would mean they'd accelerate the spear for longer, their strenght would allow the use of heavier spears and i'm getting scared already of how much force these would pack.
I was thinking along similar lines, but even just something as simple as a sling.
@@DavidEllis94 i was about to point out how slings are kinda modern since they use rubber, then i realized just which sling you meant. that said, the sling came as a weapon of war of old, but atlatl are even older... like, one of the earliest human tools ever made. they were used to hunt, and their shape is simple enough that a good tree branch could already be used as one, hardly any craftsmanship involved
I think a sling would be more effective against creatures that are smaller than it, like human to maybe horse sized but atlatls would be more effective against other large creatures, however, the slings would likely be effective as well, making a more generalized weapon, so it would likely be more popular among giant warriors.
@@alexanderthegreat6682 well, i find darts easier to aim than slings, but i don't think either would by quite outclassed by either.
@@anzol4523 a rock from a sling has the advantage that it's more likely to hit more people in a shot, so a sling will probably be better against humans, but spears would probably be better vs other giants.
So essentialy Goliath with Davids weapon...neet.
i can just imagine the soviet russia memes. "You don't kill giant with sling, giant kills YOU"
Ravener The best weapon for Giants would be the sling. Cheap but deadly. Getting hit by a stone thrown from Giants sling is Equalevent to getting hit by a 60lb stone launched from a Román Onager Catapault but one that can Quickly get out of melée range.
secondary stun from the shockwave impact
But Goliath was only 9 ft. tall
The Greeks got this right because in their myth of Chronos, Kronos used a scythe
Waan't it a sickle?
@@saharyn7551 it was either or, different sources give different accounts
So an army of giants would completely destroy everyone, until a group of hobbits snuck into their camp at night and silently kiled them all
samuel hagberg pretty much, so I envision Giants keeping and training guard bats and large war dogs for assisting camp patrols during the night.
samuel hagberg Hobbits wouldnt kill giants worth shit, unless they had access to rocket launchers, heavy machine guns and nukes. Even then a hobbit sized machine guns would probably just piss them off and wake the whole camp.
Lets face it raw physical strength is extremely overpowered in even modern battle because it allows you to wear heavy armor that shrugs off fire from smaller creatures while your assault rifle fires fucking tank shells.
They could poison their supplies, blind them or stab them without them noticing (depending on the giant's size) and then infect them with diseases.
If they could not stab the giant's without the them noticing that means that the giant's aren't really big enough to survive being stabbed through the throat several times at once by multiple smaller humanoids while they are sleeping.
Additionally, they could also infest them with insects that burrow away at flesh, something that would be far worse to deal with for a giant since those insects are even smaller (and therefore harder to extract) compared to a giant.
Let's face it: brains triumph over brawn.
Filip Ferenčak Only in idealized fantasy books. In reality police can beat up intellectuals whenever they feel like it. Brute force > all, this includes technological superiority. The thing is that besides inventing new toys for the brawny guys to use, being super intelligent is basically completely useless.
everything has a loophole those who use force can be overcome by simply redirecting said force.brains and brawn together works best .what good is a weapon if you are too stupid to use it? it is just a worthless piece of junk. the best way to overcome a large enemy is with brains and speed. traps and deception. war is deception.
When you began mentioning the weapon the farming scythe came to my mind too xD It would cause the giant to become a giant lawnmower.
Yeah, and depending on the construction of the weapon and technique used, most humans would get decapitated by the first swing, any survivors who ducked would be drenched in gore and probably panic and try to run, meaning easy pickings for the giants using the slings and rocks as big or bigger than human heads. Hell, in a pinch, using the humans' severed heads as sling ammo could be a potentially deadly shock tactic. Decapitate a regiment sent to kill you, sling their severed heads over the wall of the castle that sent them, and watch the puny man-things shit themselves in terror before you demolish their walls and destroy everything they own for their offenses.
21:08 "Just BRING IT BACK FOR ANOTHER ONE"
Exactly! That's the first thing I thought when I saw the thumbnail, with humans reaching the giants knees.
But I would change the blade to something more like a scimitar, so that a pesky heavily armoured human would slide off the blade instead of geting stuck on it.
And I don't think a double edged blade is a good idea for a scythe. The balance of the scythe comes from "dragging" the blade behind the handles. For a double edged schyte, it's probably better to put one blade on each end. Put the right end down and sweep right to left, lift the right end up, put down the left end and sweep left to right.
It really gives a new meaning to the Dutch proverb 'Don't stick your head above the mowing field'
manmower XD
Crazy "out of the box" thought when you mentioned overheating. Dragons existed, but, there wings were for cooling them down, not for flying. The dragons would flap there wings and create a current but would NEVER leave the ground and they knew it. If they were cold there wings were solar panels absorbing heat. But a fighting dragon would flap its wings both disorienting its attacker or prey and cooling Its self off at the same time. Imagine it, really. The fact that it's plausable is kinda scary.
With flying being out of the question, could a dragon use its wings to glide from a high ground?
@@ragnarbjarnason2386 Think of how much mass is tied to that Dragon. When young and small, superb, it can glide, it might even be able to generate a bit of lift. But after a certain size, that's a no go.
I like Jacob's idea however and I will use that in future RPGs ^^
@@ragnarbjarnason2386 dragons from Skyrim or Game of thrones have waaaaay to small wings to allow any form of flight. These wings would also have to be incredibly strong, because a dragon 10 times bigger than a normal bird would weight 1000 times more, not 10 times more. (Plus scales which are incredibly heavy for flying animals)
@@michac.8283 I always figured that since they breathed fire, they could heat up the air within them to fly in a way similar to hot air balloons, and flapping their wings generated thrust and cooled them externally too.
@@andrewpenn1145 well that would not work that well. Hot air floats upwards because it's less dense than cold air. If we stuffed a dragon with a lot of hot air, it wouldn't lift it because compressing air won't make it float more, white quite the opposite actually (because it becomes denser)
I'm so proud of myself. When he was describing the height of humans compared to giants and the need for reach I actually said "harvesting scythe." I was kind of joking, but I was so happy when he actually started talking about it.
ok now talk about winged people, bird people and flying races I feel like that would be interesting cause they would need to be light and frail to be able to fly
It's on the list!
if highly intellectual dragons had the ability to craft and enslave humanoids to craft them weapons and armor. how would that play out?
like the ruto in the legend of Zelda series, who were archers in the newest game (the only one where I can render them being armed)
Yes, please! I mentioned this on another video, wasn't sure if it got noticed.
Are we talking wings on their back or wings and arms are the same limb?
The armor analysis is exactly backwards. Square cube law makes rejecting heat harder as size goes up, not easier.
I wonder if you could make specially designed armors that let air go under it for cooling purpose.
That said, many giants seem to be covered in massive amounts of fur already in fantasy, which implies that like strength, their cooling capacity is ridiculously high and overcompensate the square-cube loss.
Apologies, but I don't think that's true. A larger creature has a larger surface area to lose heat from, elephants can survive in extreme heat based on that exact principle; capiliaries in their large, fan like ears and wrinkly skin.
For large mammals the problem is generally getting and keeping warm, not the opposite, that's why large cold-blooded creatures have been far more common than large warm-blooded creatures.
Look at bears and whales, both have to eat tons (literally), to keep their bodies warm in the trying times and both have excellent insulation.
Perhaps I just misunderstood what you meant by 'rejecting heat'.
Team Cap Thanks for the explanation, that all makes perfect sense, for a cube and as a principle of volume.I also understand now what the original poster was getting at.
I don’t think that is easily applicable to a giant because it isn’t a cube, nor is an elephant which is why it’s ears are relevant, circulatory systems and appendages being different/not cubed.
It would be interesting to know how the efficiency of perspiration in cooling larger humans fits in.
@Team Cap I am not going to pretend to be an expert on physics or thermo-dynamics.
That being said, my basic understanding of principles that have kept me alive in -45 degrees celsius give me enough confidence to say that a cube of cotton wool has a different properties to a cube of blubber for example, they don't insulate equally well and that is further mitigated when you take into account circulation. I have had frostbite, my torso was still toasty warm while my fingers had frozen.
Frostbite happens because your body cuts off circulation to extremities because the extremities lose heat quicker than the torso. That might conform to the idea that our more voluminous torsos lose temperature less quickly, but it also supports my point that the volume isn't equal across the entire organism and different parts of our bodies lose heat or retain heat differently. That's before we even talk about density etc.
I'm not trying to say you are wrong about greater volumes, but that rule doesn't take into account the circulatory system, generation of heat via muscle use (shivering for example), restriction of flow to conserve heat and the differences in the tissues that make up our bodies; fat and muscle are different.
This is a fact: You lose far more heat from your head than your torso. Therefore, a flat calculation of my volume will not tell you exactly how quickly I lose heat. How long my hair is, whether I am wearing tinfoil on my head or a hat will affect my ability to keep or lose heat, just like the elephants flappy ears allow it to cool the heat inside that giant voluminous torso.
I appreciate you taking the time to explain the idea to me, but I don't think it can be so easily applied to living creatures and their ability to regulate temperature, there are far more variables than just volume.
That's also why you see the large elephants have such wide ears that are used as heat radiators, with blood circulating in them and increasing their surface, while smaller animals don't have such features.
Dear George RR/HBO,
Please give us giants w/slings supported by a force of mammoth calvary wielding scythes killing white walkers and snow zambies.
That'd be nice, but wasn't Wun Wun the last Giant or something?
The last giant south of the wall. Beyond the wall the wildling army dispersed and everyone fled in different directions including the giants that survived the siege of castle black. Also their king died so they had no motivations to fight anymore.
Me: *writing a fantasy story*
Me, watching this video: *furiously takes notes*
literally, throughout the entirety of this video I was thinking "farmers scyth, literally cut them down like wheat." I Got so psyched when he actually brought it up.
"A big hitty whacky thing"... shads vocabulary is fantastic
Great video, loved the editing!
Giants, slings... what about dragons?!
BUT What about GIANTS RIDING DRAGONS WITH SLINGSHOTS?!?!
HOW WOULD YOU EVEN DEFEND AGAINST THAT!?
The Brains and The Baka what about giants throwing dragons from slingshots?
+The Brains and The Baka kill dragon abd then kill giant?
But it would be a mess to take out
+Daisei The 24th: What about giants in slingshot bikinis throwing up dragons?
totoru4ever This is "But what about dragons?" taken to a whole new level.
I feel like a ball on a chain, morningstar, or a whip would be pretty effective as well, if swung low to the ground. Whips would maybe be less costly than a giant scythe if they want to save metal. Axes could work pretty well in place for a scythe. Slingshots and crossbows would be pretty effective as well, and giants could defend tons of regular troops from arrow fire with a large shield. They could also hurl molotov like projectiles maybe, and kamikaze giants could serve as drawbridges or battering rams depending on the giant's and the moat's size.
So essentially giants should be nigh-unkillable and highly mobile artillery.
Also thank you for bringing up the square-cube law. I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I doubt a giant would even run, as it would be too damaging to the knees, ankles and spine. Still, with such long strides they'd move plenty fast anyway, and it's not like you'd use them as skirmishers.
they would be awesome for sieges
I would see them in a more stationary fighting for they would have already would have a huge long range advantage. It would be easier on them to let the enemy come to them.
Wrap them in heavy plate, point them at the largest formation of enemies, and then tell them to go make some bloody human snow angels
They might employ burning tar weapons just for giants. Or more siege weapons as shad suggested. Ballista !
Considering that Elephants can run (and fairly fucking fast!), I think they could run or atleast fast-walk and outrun any human.
They might not be able to jump without buckling their knees, and getting up from a bad fall might take them a lot of time.
Club modification: giant with a huge golf club. Send your enemies literally flying!
Four! four humans gone!
You don't need spaceships to send people into space anymore...
S.A.S.A (Skyrim Aeronautic and Space Association) would lie to know your location
Bonus: par four... hundred
FE FI FO FORE!
23:50 that was my first thought, glad you didn't overlook the utility of the humble sling as so many fictional medieval depictions do.
Jeez, when you mentioned the Scythe, I physically cringed. I had this image in my head of the last time I saw someone mowing with a scythe and how quickly they cleared that field. Absolutely brutal.
T.K. Titanium I’ve seen people do it and they clear their lawn which is 4 times larger than mine and I was using a lawn mower...
Same.
I'm actually thinking that a scythe wouldn't be a very effective weapon at all against armoured foes. Basically swinging a sword at armour. It wouldn't cut through anything. The sheer force of the swing would simply push the first guy against the one standing next to him etc, a few people would be knocked to the ground, and would just get back up. the first guy might have some kind of injury due to the impact of the scythe against his armour, but everyone else would be just fine.
bram callebert
But what about a scythe modified in reach to behead humans, like Shad suggested? I really doubt the neck would have that much protection. The most one could do is duck under the scythe, but then you’d be a sitting duck face-to-face with the giant’s boot...
"The bigger they become, the less weapons they need" well, I prefer a flyswatter, as size limits speed.
15:42...
My guy is literally making the giants extinction level threat bruh💀💀💀 wtf would you kill them with if they block SIEGE WEAPONRY 💀💀🙂🙂
Fire, and lots of it
Wizards, ideally.
A couple of things to consider. First, unlike hands, you need your feet to stand on. I'm not sure if using their feet as the primary weapons would be the best idea for giants. I don't think it's unlikely that humans would figure out a way to trip the giants or pull them down once they have a foot off the ground. As you say, it's going to take some time for them to get their limbs up to speed.
The other thing is, the square-cube law means that it's actually harder for larger animals to get rid of heat. You have eight times the volume producing heat, but only four times the surface area to dissipate it. Animals that live near the poles are larger than their counterparts that live near the equator. Compare the polar bear to the asian black bear, for example. It's because larger animals retain heat better than smaller animals. Thick gambeson would be quite a bad idea for giants, and they'd overheat very quickly.
Aadiyat Ahmad Elephants are bigger than bears though...
Yes, are bigger and so they have other ways to deal with heat. Elephants are almost completely hairless, so , unlike a bear, heat isn't trapped by fur. Elephants also have very large and thin ears. These work like radiators and get rid off heat.
My point was that between similar animals, say one type of bear compared to another type of bear, the one living in the colder climate will generally be the larger of the two, since bigger things retain more heat.
Remember mammoths? Those were bigger than elephants...
Agreed on the general counts regarding heat retention across large & small creatures. I wouldn't personally debate from the point of climate where the animals live though, other factors come to play.
So it should not require a sharp engineer mind to make sense of the fact that the larger the surface area to volume ratio of any object, better the heat exchange. Then comes the more mathematical part - put together a simple spreadsheet to calculate the surface area & volume of any regular geometrical object like a cube or sphere, then, its area : volume ratio. You will find that as the length or diameter of the object increases, the area : volume ratio will decrease.
Hence a quantitative proof that a larger object or creature will exchange heat slower as compared to smaller ones.
it doesn't matter. just get a couple of your giant buddies and some slings. fuck kicking them. just stand a thousand or so meters away with a pile of rocks.
god imagine a giant just standing there swatting around with a scythe and being surrounded by Soldiers being cut in half
karl johan I feel that giant would be dancing to “Another bites the Dust” 😂
@@EchoDrift540 and imagine th egiant just break dancing and just flinging every Little flee for miles
I would imagine his name be "man harvester"
sounds like something straight out of Kingdom
Came down to Comment this
A giant with a club or a mace is awsome... But a harvester giant with a sikle is amazingly insane... And far better: an orgarmic sling! I want to be a giant now
What's cool is that such a huge sling could be somehow effective even at short range working as a mace if necessary I think..
who would approach that
Another option would be a properly sized flyswatter.. a MANSWATTER, in medieval time it could just be a very large broom made of branches and SWAP SWAP SWAP people swapped on a larger area than a club, ranks of people flying away.
Sorry, what mean orgarmic and sikle? xD
Maybe sickle? So no, i think is too short for a giant :/
@@trezapoioiuy Broom sounds a good melee weapon. And instead of twigs, it could have barbed brambles or alike. 'Warbroom'.
Even after editing, "organic" is still spelled incorrectly.
Alright going to borrow some attack on titan for this one even though their giants are more titans (pun fully intended) rather than giants.
So there's this one smart (beast) titan that grabs on to a bunch of rocks (or you can just grab a boulder and crush it, the point is, many many numerous hard objects) and just throw it at the target basically a shotgun of sorts. If a human can throw rocks to deal significant damage, scale that up to the strength of a giant and you'll be faced with a very very dangerous foe plus the attack's ranged so good luck in getting close to cut it down to size or whatever.
Any contraptions like siege crossbows or cannons will be destroyed easily, the only way to advance would be high mobility but there's only so much space on the ground you can run around before being pelted by a range of different sized objects being hurled at you with a high velocity.
Another idea for a weapon would be a lawnmower of sorts/giant rake/broom (an object that can easily sweep things off the ground) , no need for it to be sharp to reduce self injury. All that's left is how creative you wanna get when killing pesky humans running about.
Me remembering darksouls “hawkeye gough was a giant who used a giant bow and was badass with it” also giants used warhammers and halberds along with tower shields In that game
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Giant can't live because they need a lot of food and giant can't feed themself because of their giant hand so their life would only rely on human and if their life is relying on human they would be extinct in the first place because can't survive.
Or they hunt megafauna in the north. Big enough for their hands.
Giant slingers ... acting as legged "cannons" ...
I want to have this in my fantasy world.
Shad, you are an evil genius XD.
Giant + sling = cannon that doesn't need gunpowder. And anyone who knows history knows how destructive can be a cannon volley against a group of infantry.
What about a big bow big Big bow
@@2toxic2play8 I think it would be prohibitably difficult to make bows that big
@@2toxic2play8 wouldn't be nearly as effective against groups as a sling. especially when you consider that with a sling the giant could use just about anything as ammo.
Give them ram,they bust down gate like small door
Caber
Bolo
Sling with several smaller pellets
A giant farming scythe, cut the puny humans down like grass.
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So that was a thought I had. A human could very easily use a shield (the ones with the spike on the bottom) to stop a scythe. Just kneel and put the shield in front of your front feet. That will block the scythe and prevent it from striking anyone else.
That would be a giant (pun intended) problem for the... Well... Giant.
You might also be able to strike his hand or make a thrust to just chest after you stop the scythe
I think that a giant would have more than enough force to bring down any shield with a reasonably long spike. Keep in mind that a longer spike, although it would defend better against a giant, would be harder and more time-consuming to place.
Paul Jones I was talking about the shields that have a spiked bottom. This way you could nail it to the ground relatively easily and quick and if you support the bottom part of the shield with your knee nothing can bring it down...
You're backwards on your heat idea. Although they have more surface area, they've grown volume at twice the rate. They'd have more issue with overheating than cooling off to fast
They why elephants have huge ears, so they have greater surface area
And the ears are fans. Attack on titan demonstrates this, because the titans are hot, because their skin is so thick.
@@WynnofThule um... Dude. The Titans have the mass of a normal human. So they would actually cool better than a human. I don't think it's established why they are so hot.
@@plzletmebefrank They seem to be like trees. They use sunlight for power, and it seems alot of them is hollow with CO2 gas, just like how the carbon from CO2 is the most common thing in a tree.
History and education can be done in a fun way
Schools: i'll ignore that
yea history is gimped the worst in schools (sorry for my bad english)
It’s also absolutely washed of anything mildly interesting
The big problem with trying to improve history in schools is that no one along the political spectrum can agree on how to do it, so you get these little nudges to keep it up to date in terms of content, and do nothing to actually make it better.
Stone throwing for a giant, on average, ive always taken to the level of hardest/fastest atheletic human feat i know of. (Zdeno Chara slapshot, 141kms/hr). Note thats an average toss. Average.
Now scale that up. Top end throw? Id suggest 250 kms/hr.
A proper sling?? Fuck top end they might break the fucking sound barrier. With a projectile the size of your head, and likely near 30lbs or so. M×Vsq=F. Look i dont need to figure distribution of force over boulder area. Your about to get utterly flattened. That is 4545 Newtons of force. For perspective, Chara's 'monstrous' slapshot? Converting to units used. A hockey puck is like .375lbs and that shot is 39.2 m/sSQ. So is 6.67 Newtons of force and can break bones. That is a multiplicative factor of 681.4 times the force. FUCKING HELL!!!
Scythes, would be a good choice, very fluid movements not a lot of strain, will reduce the heat buildup.
Couldn't the giants devise some sort of specialized sling specifically for combat against armies of humans rather than for sieging castles? I'm thinking something that would throw multiple rocks that seem medium sized (to us). Like a handheld grapeshot killing multiple human soldiers at a time at range.
Like a sequoia sized tree, trimmed of root and canopy to roll flat oncoming waves of attack.
Like Carpet Bombardment?
They'd just fill their slings with big junks of gravel and hurl it over an army and watch them all drop dead from the hail.
@@Broockle oh god that sounds terrifying 😣
Bolas. See the comment I just posted
What if they just threw giant-scaled bolas at humans? Do you imagine the area that weapon could cover?
23:59 When David pissed you really hard so you decide to use his own weapon against him xD
Re: the rock throwing idea. If they could cast a massive steel bomb and fill it with gunpowder, that would be devastating.
sling launched explosives... if you think about it, if you properly equip a giant, it becomes a living siege engine
That's just a cannon with an exploding shell, which you could already make in this context since you have the gunpowder and steel in the first place. You could also just use a small cannon and annihilate a giant. Guns ruin everything, basically.
@@seigeengine can't argue that. Guns are the great equalizer, which sucks. On another note, I do like them too, just not as much.
@@seigeengine simple solution make guns for giants
@@sgtrazorclaw3205 Not really. Giants with giant guns are just artillery made of flesh.
The trick with guns is to not be hit, and when you're GIANT that's pretty hard.
I dunno about giants, but their father used a Chaos Zweihander and Grass Crest Shield.
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The split damage would just ruin it, better to just have it +15
I'm guessing you're referencing some obscure fantasy game/book/movie that like no one has ever heard of but those who have are absolutely obsessed.
Alex Hampton It's Dark Souls my mans
Alex Hampton not obscure, you just don’t know what game it is
Give him a big hockey staff! XD
LOL that was my idea as well
add an edge on it and flip it 90 degrees.
BAM! scythe!
How about spiked tennis rackets?
Or polo/cricket mallets?
A football! Definitely a football!
Giant Gardener gets ready for battle.
Other Giant: Where you going?
Giant Gardener: I’m gonna cut some grass.
13:30. Re Giants cooling down, you forgot the square cube law; Giants have 4x the surface area to radiate heat from, but 8x the volume generating heat
Exactly. The more you scale something up, the lower surface to mass ratio it has.
Nonevah ed yes, but considering how little fantasy takes that into account, and we aren’t going for hyper realism, we are going for the fantasy
@@rolandcaters7258 Who's we? The whole purpose of these videos is to apply some realism to fantasy. If we're all just going to ignore any sort of realism, we wouldn't need a thirty minute video to hash out what kind of weapons and armor giants should use. Clubs, boulders, and hides it would be.
Kon Trarien I mean most authors and readers. It doesn’t have to be hyper realistic, but realism is wanted,
Kon Trarien I said hyper realism, as in the fact that giants wouldn’t need fur coats due to their surface to mass ration or whatever
When he mentioned rocks I remembered a scene in attack on titan when the beast titan crushed a bolder into pebbles to kill the scouts in one throw.
Attack on Titan's fighting is just levels ahead of other movies, series ect.
I dont want to get political, but they should have saved erwin
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