Paul Weller started The Jam with his childhood friend Steve Brooker and another friend Dave Waller (who was more a poet than a musician) but by the time the band became known they were both long gone. He was particularly close to Brooker but they grew apart - something which was particularly hastened by Weller’s almost Damascene conversion to Mod culture after discovering a second hand Who record. I think it is likely that he had these two people in mind, when writing this song and the concept of childhood friends growing apart, which as someone here has already pointed out, is the thread running through quite a few songs on the album “Setting Sons” from which this song is taken although a different version. Weller first alludes to his faded friendship with Brooker on the song “I got by in time” from the first album “In the City”. Get well soon Cynthia and have an early night Chris!
Good reaction both of you. This song is from the album Settting Sons which was originally intended to be a concept album....charting the lives of childhood friends into adulthood. The concept album never materialised but several songs on the album hint at what might have been. Interestingly Chris mentioned he was looking at contacting old friends, Weller dealt with this on the song Burning Sky, also on the album and is delivered in the form of a letter from one of the friends to another.
The concept album simply turned into a more traditional album because Weller ran out of ideas for new songs to fit the theme, which is probably a good thing, because rather than forcing out material to match it it he could let his creativity flow. In fact the band were still short of material when recording commenced and Weller had to come up with songs in the studio including “Girl on the Phone”.
Thanks for another great Jam reaction Thanks also for the dissection of the lyrics opened my eyes to the true meaning of the song Hope you both feel better soon
THE JAM were such a phenomenal band. Weller's storytelling is so, so good. I think you nailed the meaning of the song. Other cuts to definitely check out: "FUNERAL PYRE," "TO BE SOMEONE," "GIRL ON THE PHONE," "PRIVATE HELL," "BUT I'M DIFFERENT NOW," "MONDAY," "SCRAPE AWAY"... Cheers!
Great reaction, C and C, I hope that you both feel better very soon. John Peel was a much loved DJ here in the U.K. he was a great champion of many up-and-coming bands over the years, a large majority of those bands became well known.
John and his wife Sheila wrote an excellent book, Margrave Of The Marshes, recommended! Theres a cool little documentary about his secret box of records on youtube, called John Peel's Record Box
@@Sandy-dd4leThank you I shall have to look into those. I have the double album "Right Time, Wrong Speed" which has some of his all time favourite tracks on it.
I've seen 50 thousand geordies going wild at St James park, I've seen Victoria falls in Zambia in full flood but I've never seen anything like the jam in concert
Thanks for this guys, one of my favourite Jam songs. I loved the John Peel sessions and thought this live performance was outstanding. I think this just tells the story that a lot of us relate to, having friends at school you think will be for life then gradually drifting apart as you grow up and become adults. Don't beat yourselves up about not getting the meaning straight away! I'm a lyrics before music kinda guy and my English ears used to struggle with Mr Weller's delivery at times! In this one I used to think that 'we grew up in a flash of time' was 'we grew up in a bus shelter' 😆
In 1994 i moved from Taranaki to great barrier island 80 kms off the coast of Auckland Aotearoa New Zealand and one of my best friends/brothers/flatmate moved to Australia i was living in a teatree and coragated iron shed in the bush an hour's walk to the closest road and lost contact with Hooper. Fast forward to 2002 I'm now living in Auckland after having a brain aneurysm in November 99 sitting around the kitchen table with two of my flatmates telling them about Hooper and how much i wanted to see him again and the phone rings old school ph plugged into the wall 😮 i answer the phone and a voice asked if Heath was there? HOOPER I SHOUTED yeah man it's me. I Fing know it's you HIPPIE two months later i was a groomsmen at his wedding on the Gold coast of Australia and haven't lost contact since 😊
Great analysis, I even learnt something about the song listening to your thoughts, and I am a huge Jam fan whose played this many times. I know this is a live recording and so not quite as polished as a record, but I think it demonstrates just how good a live band they were. Hope you get on the mend soon.
Great song! Classic period for Weller. Could you do a ''double feature'' or ''back to back'' or ''two in one'' for Hoodoo Gurus. You haven't even gotten to the best of the band. ''Double feature'' might be a good term to use for the two song in one video idea. Hoodoo Gurus - I Want You Back - 4K Remastered - Official Video 1984 Austech Hoodoo Gurus - Like Wow nzoz1985 (nzoz1985 upload is the best) I think these two songs will get good results.
The Peel Sessions always had a "raw" quality that never translated to a band's studio album. A good example of this would be Siouxie & the Banshees' "carcass". Compare the John Peel version with the take off their 1978 debut LP...
This is a pretty good song by them but I wouldn't rate it as their best. The Peel Sessions are ayeways great. They are recorded in great studios for John Peel's Radio show which was the best radio show to listen to. I don't know anyone that didn't sit with a tape in and trying to catch as much of it as they could. John Peel is a bit of a Legend.
Absolutely, I was that guy with the C-60 set to record on my new fangled hi-fi anything that I liked from the Peel shows , loved his dry wit and I stole his throwaway line “ half dead from beastliness” from one of his reviews that I’ve never forgotten 😅 great guy , sadly missed 👍🏴
This is CLASSIC The Jam , Wellers lyrics n Geetar cutting like a buzzsaw , Bruce’s Bass thumping into your chest and the sadly undervalued Rick Buckler underpinning it all with impeccable timing . This track is on a level with In the city for ferocity and “ in yer face-ity “ but with a whiff of melody too and that’s a cocktail that I’ll consume all day and love it . Great reaction , great request ! It’s 4.40am and I’m annoyed I woke up randomly there , but this AND Marc Bolan ? I’m having toast and juice with a smile on my face n hope to get back to sleep shortly . Sorry to hear you 2 aren’t 💯 today , 🤞for you both ✊ 👍🏴
Kia Ora hello Jay my brother hay that waking up thing is way better than having the big sleep that just goes on and on and on and on like one of my stories 😁
@@colrhodes377 kia ora hello my friend how's your week treating you? It's Wednesday night and my week started ruff pain levels off the scale lower back left hip and leg yesterday and today pain levels in the high sevens and that i can deal with so I'm happy as long as i can do stuff without needing help (getting out of bed) i can get through it but when it stops me from doing life it gets hard to smile some times i do but it's not my usual toothless grin. Haha that was a long rant I've got one of the highest R.P.Ms in the world RANTS PER MINUTE making sense is still an art I've got to master
@heathcornbeef Hey Kia Ora . Rough as a bears 🐻 arse. The cold and damp really plays up on the arthritis but not to worry because I have a great cocktail of painkillers. Hope you're getting on top of the pain.
Paul Weller is such a great singer .. You guys should check out his R&B track with The Style Council " Long Hot Summer " the full length or 12" version. Pretty smooth 👌
These guys when i hear the intro for That's Entertainment i get a lump in my throat every time. something happened back in my past with that song in the background NOSTALGIA? buggered if i know but Paul Weller's vocals are 💥 i LOVE THE JAM A LOT!!! . I ALSO LOVE CHEESECAKE 😋 ANY FLAVOUR
You've got the lyrics bang on with this one.. If you get a chance listen to the live version of this from 'fire and skill' recorded at Newcastle city hall in 1980. Amazing!
The Beatles have drawn level with Kate Bush, so they probably won't be long until they pass The Jam. Helter skelter by The Beatles should draw people in.
Sorry Cynthia i shouldn't joke I've had a whole day in bed on Sunday pain leavels of the scale couldn't walk properly had to get Strummer to help me out of bed it SUCKED BIG TIME
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Quality songs throughout this album, which gave us the single Eton Rifles. Happy days, I was 13-14. Still my fave band, a very loyal fan base.
The Jam were an obsession for so many British teenagers in the late 70s to early 80s. No other band got close.
Paul Weller started The Jam with his childhood friend Steve Brooker and another friend Dave Waller (who was more a poet than a musician) but by the time the band became known they were both long gone. He was particularly close to Brooker but they grew apart - something which was particularly hastened by Weller’s almost Damascene conversion to Mod culture after discovering a second hand Who record.
I think it is likely that he had these two people in mind, when writing this song and the concept of childhood friends growing apart, which as someone here has already pointed out, is the thread running through quite a few songs on the album “Setting Sons” from which this song is taken although a different version. Weller first alludes to his faded friendship with Brooker on the song “I got by in time” from the first album “In the City”.
Get well soon Cynthia and have an early night Chris!
It's Steve Brookes not Brooker.
Steve Brooker is still very much a part of Weller's orbit, and I believe has recently written/played wiith him.
John Peel was a Radio One DJ who gave every band a chance on the Peel Sessions.
Aye and a witty , cutting auld goat too 😅
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I just love your head nods to the music i personally bought 40+ years ago ;). good to see others who appreciate great music
Good reaction both of you. This song is from the album Settting Sons which was originally intended to be a concept album....charting the lives of childhood friends into adulthood. The concept album never materialised but several songs on the album hint at what might have been.
Interestingly Chris mentioned he was looking at contacting old friends, Weller dealt with this on the song Burning Sky, also on the album and is delivered in the form of a letter from one of the friends to another.
The concept album simply turned into a more traditional album because Weller ran out of ideas for new songs to fit the theme, which is probably a good thing, because rather than forcing out material to match it it he could let his creativity flow. In fact the band were still short of material when recording commenced and Weller had to come up with songs in the studio including “Girl on the Phone”.
This was just one of a number of great album tracks and b-sides that The Jam produced over their career.
How different would music be without THE PEEL SESSIONS? I DON'T WANT TO EVEN THINK ABOUT IT He should be sainted THE SAINT OF GOOD TASTE
Totally agree....I would never have heard " Ain't been to no music school" by The Nosebleeds if it wasn't for St.John!!
@@markferrett700 how many doors did he open? Hundreds and hundreds probably more
I saw The Jam when I was 15 years old. It changed my life !!!!!🙂
I first saw The Jam on the Setting Sons tour at the Rainbow Theatre in 1979 - big influence on my life and still sound as fresh today
Thanks for another great Jam reaction
Thanks also for the dissection of the lyrics opened my eyes to the true meaning of the song
Hope you both feel better soon
THE JAM were such a phenomenal band. Weller's storytelling is so, so good. I think you nailed the meaning of the song.
Other cuts to definitely check out: "FUNERAL PYRE," "TO BE SOMEONE," "GIRL ON THE PHONE," "PRIVATE HELL," "BUT I'M DIFFERENT NOW," "MONDAY," "SCRAPE AWAY"...
Cheers!
EVERY JAM SONG IS AMAZING.If you were in Britain in late 70s/early80s,The Jam and Stiff Little Fingers sang about US
No bad songs from this band. Not one
Great reaction, C and C, I hope that you both feel better very soon.
John Peel was a much loved DJ here in the U.K. he was a great champion of many up-and-coming bands over the years, a large majority of those bands became well known.
John and his wife Sheila wrote an excellent book, Margrave Of The Marshes, recommended!
Theres a cool little documentary about his secret box of records on youtube, called John Peel's Record Box
@@Sandy-dd4leThank you I shall have to look into those. I have the double album "Right Time, Wrong Speed" which has some of his all time favourite tracks on it.
I've seen 50 thousand geordies going wild at St James park, I've seen Victoria falls in Zambia in full flood but I've never seen anything like the jam in concert
That's a great comment !
Thanks for this guys, one of my favourite Jam songs. I loved the John Peel sessions and thought this live performance was outstanding. I think this just tells the story that a lot of us relate to, having friends at school you think will be for life then gradually drifting apart as you grow up and become adults. Don't beat yourselves up about not getting the meaning straight away! I'm a lyrics before music kinda guy and my English ears used to struggle with Mr Weller's delivery at times! In this one I used to think that 'we grew up in a flash of time' was 'we grew up in a bus shelter' 😆
“Absolute Beginners”… just amazing… 💯
Reminds me of my first Falklands tour in 1985. My room mate had a Setting Sons cassette and I played it to death.
As it turns out this song is all about the friendship of the band members before they fell out but they didnt realise it until years after!
Great reaction. One of my favorite Jam songs.
In 1994 i moved from Taranaki to great barrier island 80 kms off the coast of Auckland Aotearoa New Zealand and one of my best friends/brothers/flatmate moved to Australia i was living in a teatree and coragated iron shed in the bush an hour's walk to the closest road and lost contact with Hooper. Fast forward to 2002 I'm now living in Auckland after having a brain aneurysm in November 99 sitting around the kitchen table with two of my flatmates telling them about Hooper and how much i wanted to see him again and the phone rings old school ph plugged into the wall 😮 i answer the phone and a voice asked if Heath was there? HOOPER I SHOUTED yeah man it's me. I Fing know it's you HIPPIE two months later i was a groomsmen at his wedding on the Gold coast of Australia and haven't lost contact since 😊
Great analysis, I even learnt something about the song listening to your thoughts, and I am a huge Jam fan whose played this many times. I know this is a live recording and so not quite as polished as a record, but I think it demonstrates just how good a live band they were.
Hope you get on the mend soon.
Thick as thieves is just another way of saying best mates
Great song! Classic period for Weller. Could you do a ''double feature'' or ''back to back'' or ''two in one'' for Hoodoo Gurus. You haven't even gotten to the best of the band.
''Double feature'' might be a good term to use for the two song in one video idea.
Hoodoo Gurus - I Want You Back - 4K Remastered - Official Video 1984 Austech
Hoodoo Gurus - Like Wow nzoz1985 (nzoz1985 upload is the best)
I think these two songs will get good results.
A brilliant Jam song off the equally brilliant Setting Sons album. A lyrical masterpiece
The Peel Sessions always had a "raw" quality that never translated to a band's studio album. A good example of this would be Siouxie & the Banshees' "carcass". Compare the John Peel version with the take off their 1978 debut LP...
This is a pretty good song by them but I wouldn't rate it as their best.
The Peel Sessions are ayeways great. They are recorded in great studios for John Peel's Radio show which was the best radio show to listen to. I don't know anyone that didn't sit with a tape in and trying to catch as much of it as they could. John Peel is a bit of a Legend.
Whenever I was in England I would listen on Sunday nights ! He sure liked The Fall.
@@davidellis5141 He did. I think they had the most Peel Sessions.
I may still have a couple o Peel Tapes kicking aboot.
Absolutely, I was that guy with the C-60 set to record on my new fangled hi-fi anything that I liked from the Peel shows , loved his dry wit and I stole his throwaway line “ half dead from beastliness” from one of his reviews that I’ve never forgotten 😅 great guy , sadly missed
👍🏴
This is CLASSIC The Jam , Wellers lyrics n Geetar cutting like a buzzsaw , Bruce’s Bass thumping into your chest and the sadly undervalued Rick Buckler underpinning it all with impeccable timing . This track is on a level with In the city for ferocity and “ in yer face-ity “ but with a whiff of melody too and that’s a cocktail that I’ll consume all day and love it . Great reaction , great request ! It’s 4.40am and I’m annoyed I woke up randomly there , but this AND Marc Bolan ? I’m having toast and juice with a smile on my face n hope to get back to sleep shortly .
Sorry to hear you 2 aren’t 💯 today , 🤞for you both ✊
👍🏴
Sadly, only Weller had any kind of success post Jam.
Kia Ora hello Jay my brother hay that waking up thing is way better than having the big sleep that just goes on and on and on and on like one of my stories 😁
@@colrhodes377 kia ora hello my friend how's your week treating you? It's Wednesday night and my week started ruff pain levels off the scale lower back left hip and leg yesterday and today pain levels in the high sevens and that i can deal with so I'm happy as long as i can do stuff without needing help (getting out of bed) i can get through it but when it stops me from doing life it gets hard to smile some times i do but it's not my usual toothless grin. Haha that was a long rant
I've got one of the highest R.P.Ms in the world RANTS PER MINUTE making sense is still an art I've got to master
@heathcornbeef Hey Kia Ora . Rough as a bears 🐻 arse. The cold and damp really plays up on the arthritis but not to worry because I have a great cocktail of painkillers. Hope you're getting on top of the pain.
@@heathcornbeef 👀 .. putting it THAT way .. YES😆.. your right Heath
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Try 'Little Boy Soldiers' from the same album
Paul Weller is such a great singer .. You guys should check out his R&B track with The Style Council " Long Hot Summer " the full length or 12" version. Pretty smooth 👌
Almost the whole album is about growing up and facing the realities of the adult world.
These guys when i hear the intro for That's Entertainment i get a lump in my throat every time. something happened back in my past with that song in the background NOSTALGIA? buggered if i know but Paul Weller's vocals are 💥 i LOVE THE JAM A LOT!!! . I ALSO LOVE CHEESECAKE 😋 ANY FLAVOUR
Mmmmm! Cheesecake!
You've got the lyrics bang on with this one.. If you get a chance listen to the live version of this from 'fire and skill' recorded at Newcastle city hall in 1980. Amazing!
Kind of Weller's version of Willie Nelson's, Me And Paul.
The Beatles have drawn level with Kate Bush, so they probably won't be long until they pass The Jam.
Helter skelter by The Beatles should draw people in.
Love this song. This is a live performance. Album version is better for sure.
Kia Ora hello guys another great track 👏👏👏 thank you 🤘✌️
That's a hint CHEESECAKE .
THE MONTH OF ARIES IS ALMOST HERE
Play Start by the Jam and then Taxman by The Beatles.
We did a video for Start. Yeah. The similarity is apparent.
This is a different mix, it sounds more like Demo
Send all cheesecakes to Big Mouth flaps a lot at RANTING ALL DAY AND NIGHT
Cynthia your not well it's so bad you got your mucking word's fuddled up
Sorry Cynthia i shouldn't joke I've had a whole day in bed on Sunday pain leavels of the scale couldn't walk properly had to get Strummer to help me out of bed it SUCKED BIG TIME