C8 Corvette Z06 warranty VOIDED?
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I've gotten a ton of questions about this lately. Hopefully this helps clear it up. What questions do you have about factory warranty? 🤔
A very much needed video!
Thanks, Steve! I get questions about this on a daily basis so I thought it was needed as well!
The biggest question to answer is, "Can you afford to fight GM on a warranty issue ?"
Great topic.
If it comes to that, that's a fantastic point!
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40+ years parts and service dept. at GM dealerships, tells me you'll head down that road. A lot depends on the dealership. Cold air intakes and cat back are usually no problem. Big power adders and tunes be prepared, especially now with the EPA requirements.
@larrynewberry3500 definitely. The biggest part I wanted people to take away from this video is the fact that cold air in takes and cat back exhausts are probably safe or at least on the safer end.
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Absolutely
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That's one reason I am only going to do high flow filters when available and maybe a catback. I could get a free CAI, but I don't want to risk.
I feel like the air intake is just as much of a risk as the catback is.
Thank you Justin for all the great info. Let’s keep the mods coming!
I appreciate it! More coming soon!
Justin great advice for sure!! Thanks for the informative vlog sir!! Keep up the fantastic work sir!!!👍🏽
Thank you, my friend!
What in the world was that sound at 1:15 LOL
lol some guy behind my house doing random small burnouts. I had to pause a few times because of it.
@@HorsePowerObsessed OMG!
lol right?
The Ford dealership that I go to for every service done on my Focus RS tried to play that game with me. My regular service advisor was out that week and some other dude was trying to tell me that my A/M intake caused the turbo to “over boost” and the wastegate clip came off the actuator. The second I said boost is controlled by the ECM and I have a stock tune then he changed his tone and go “I’ll check with my shop Forman”. An hr later got another call from him saying “you’re all set. The clip is covered by warranty”. 🤦🏻
Gotta be careful with some of these advisors. They will do everything in their power to try rip ppl off by telling the customers that is not covered by warranty.
That's the sad reality of it. The dealership/salesman/advisor can really say whatever they want. That's why it really matters what dealership you go with.
There's always going to be that gray line with some dealerships when adding aftermarket parts to your own vehicle, some service advisors seem to be ok with it and others will have absolutely have no trouble voiding your warranty giving you nothing but problems. Justin I do remember a Chevrolet dealership on Route 8 located in Bakerstown off of William Flinn Hyw they would do headers, CAI, exhaust upgrades and even install a supercharger and as long as they did work your gm vehicle would still be backed by a gm warranty this dealership is now under another name.
Exactly. Some dealerships just want to be difficult it seems.
If you rely on the warranty, wait until it ends, or if you have enough money to cover any issues, go ahead.
always reinstall the origional stuff after total failure before its towed to dealer. computer tunes are a different
Justin, great video and excellent advice! I'm in the same boat you are...I've added the Eventuri CAI along with the SOUL Performance Products exhaust and cats. Both made a HUGE difference!
The traditional rule of thumb (as Justin pointed out in the video), if you add "bolt-on" items like an exhaust, cats, cold air intakes, headers, ported throttle body - you are NOT going to void your warranty. If you tune your Corvette, the dealership can tell, even if it's put back to the stock tune....THAT will void your warranty!
Thank you! I appreciate your input as always, my friend!
Good VIDEO Justin! I also get LOTS of questions on this as well and will refer them to this video!
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video. I think this is an age old question. Having owned many high performance cars over the years, and modifying everyone of them (except for my current ZR1),I fully understood the risk I was taking related to voiding a warranty. Dodge was very aggressive about voiding warranties when I owned my Hellcat. Sure I could have secured a lawyer and brought suit against them, but these auto companies have deep pockets with lots of lawyers. I felt I would end up spending more money on principle than if something broke bad with the powertrain. All this to say, modify your vehicle at your own discretion, and own risk.
Good info Justin
Thank you!
Never afriad to mod my car. These mods can be very expensive. In the case of power mods it can bring on a host of other mods to support those power mods. You just have to decide for yourself if it is worth it to you. Great topic Justin!!
Thank you, John! Mods are too much fun to be scared of!
I'll wait till my warranty runs out. The only mod i did was cold air intake and stopped there. I heard of people getting CEL for cat back exhaust and didnt want to deal with that but need my C8 to roar more
My salesman told me if I lowered my Z51 suspension (as it’s possible to do with no aftermarket parts) it may void my warranty. Not sure why since they built the car to be able to be lowered on the coil overs about 3/4 inch 🤷♂️
Exactly my point. Each dealership is different. In my C7 ZR1 owners manual it literally tells you to lower the car for track sessions.
Simply lowering the seat of the strut spring does lower the vehicle height but it also changes the correct spring preload that in turn makes the vehicle bottom out easier . Springs replacement is the correct way and with that said correctly setting the pre load on suspension bushings during alignment is critical to suspension bushings life.
Justin, great video, and several very good point. Glad to learn that the burden of proof is on GM.
Thank you!
Simply stated, leave your car alone until you’re out of the warranty coverage!
Never ceases to amaze me how people think they can get more “safe” power than what GM came up with. Just my 2-cents.
Great video👍🏼🙏
Thanks. There's really only 2 areas of any car you can increase power output on and that's the intake and exhaust. GM's hands are tied by the EPA and ours aren't so there is still power to be had in those 2 sections.
Justin,
Great information and knowledge for everyone!
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Thanks, Shane!!
Justin, I concur with most of your thinking except when GM finds a mod it will be YOU having to PROVE it to them after they cancel your warranty.
Yeah, that's why whatever dealership you go to really really matters!
The only thing I really disagree with are the comments on Magnusson Moss. MM is for protection when using OE equivalent parts, not performance parts. Any part that states a performance gain (HP or TQ) specifically falls under the language about performance parts in the GM warranty doc: Aftermarket Engine Performance Enhancement Products and Modifications:
"Damage, failure, or reduced life of the engine, transmission, emission system, drivetrain or other vehicle components caused by aftermarket engine performance enhancement products or modifications may not be covered under your vehicle warranty."
I do agree that in general, they are probably not going to deny warranty for an air intake. And GM engineers have stated at least once in public (Corvettes at Carlisle 2023) that aftermarket exhaust (i.e. catback) will not void the warranty.
Another way to void a C8 Z06 or ERay warranty is to purchase or win one from a give away that has changed hands before the 6 month time frame from the initial sale.
That's true but in this case I wanted to keep it limited to specifically installing mods.
My dealership looks for mods when I take it in for service. They also take notes if they see anything.
That's horrible.
Great video Justin.
These are some answers to a lot of the same questions not only I have but most C8 owners.. The answer might just be do the mods cross your fingers and hope that the dealer your taking it to is on your side.. Will the mods truly damage your car and be the actual cause of the issue, more than likely NO.
Well said! The dealership you go to definitely matters more than anything! So, find a good one before you mod!
I feel like dealerships look for any excuse to deny warranty issues. A perfect example is the paint chipping around the headlights (which is a known issue) and blaming the PPF 🤔. I know this is different but I wouldn’t be surprised if it worked the opposite way you explained where the dealership would need you to prove it didn’t cause the issue because they know most people won’t go thru the headache to “prove” it because it’s not worth the hassle.
Yeah that's why I said to go to different dealerships. 1 or 2 may say no, the 3rd or 4th one will likely say yes.
What if you exceed the suggested RPMs in the C8.ZO6 during the break-in period before 500 miles. I thought it was electronically limited to 6500 rpm but I've heard you can exceed that during the first 500 miles. Would that be grounds for GM to void the warranty?
It could be. It's not electronically limited. It's more so a recommendation from GM. They can't limit it for liability reasons.
Thanks Justin@@HorsePowerObsessed
Justin, Great information! Like you mentioned - the key is your "dealer"! I took my C8 in for the first service and they told me they wouldn't even touch my car now because I had a full PPF done! They wouldn't risk damaging PPF and said they couldn't help (had jacking pucks on the car too)! Had to go to another dealership to get the work done. Crazy! I guarantee if I tried to go back for warranty work it would be an immediate "NO" form them because of the Eventuri intake or something else I did...! Pretty ridiculous!
Wow! Thats insane! I’ve never heard of a dealership refusing to do anything because of ppf!
@@HorsePowerObsessed I couldn't believe it myself. Crazy! 🙄
Definitely weird. I'd go to another dealership personally.
Kind of ridiculous considering some dealers install PPF onsite. Maybe that particular dealer had a dispute around PPF damage in the past?
I bet you're right - they probably damaged some in the past and now they are opposed to touching a car with it. Needless to say - have not gone back and will not return to (my purchasing) dealership again! Found another local dealer that does my work with no issues@@tomt6907
Just keep in mind, GM has an army of engineers and lawyers at their disposal.
Yup. That's why it's better to not get into that situation.
Bottom line if you play your gonna pay! Wait for the warranty end to perform any fuel intake ,exhaust mods or suspension geometry changes including wheel spacers,different size wheels it all can effect the car be it a simple false warning light to major damage if not done correctly
I think the word in law is causation. And warranty issues might require arbitration
100% agree! If they don't want to honor it, you may have to fight.
Yes, sounds reasonable, but can’t imagine actually risking your warranty to possibly gajn 3 hp at the high end of the rpm range
Appreciate what you do 👍🏼
I, personally, wouldn't risk it for 3hp, but for the mods I am talking about here being 50+hp. I'd consider it! 😉
And of course your information is merely your opinion and not legal advice and it is up to owner to determine specific duties and liability.
This is why I need you on the channel!
Justin, you’re my new lawyer
lol I am nowhere near that level!
Headers?
Headers are ok, but typically take a tune to get the full worth out of them.
Does driving with a non-New Balance shoe void your warranty?
I've heard it could!
I was voided from day 1 then 😢
lol same here.
I feel sometimes dealers will find any excuse to void a warranty. If they see an intake in your car or a catback, they might come up with the stupidest explanation on how your catback exhaust adding 10 hp voided your engine warranty because the car wasn’t meant to handle 10 more hp smfh Dealers are super slimy so tread with caution
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