Jim's all strength, what a beast. For us mortals refining the technique, is the way to success, get these strokes down on flat water first and build your skills technique and strength.
Thanks, it's a great deck that is versatile, so I can use it solo or tandem. It's by Northwater paddle Sports Equipment. Back paddling is defiantly a great way to gain control, and back-ferrying is a great way to navigate a canoe in rapids, particularly when it's heavily loaded.
Another over looked method is the pole. May not be the ticket in class three waters but during the dry summer and low water levels a pole will allow one to pick around the bones. I see many canoeist getting out and wading through knee deep water when all the need is a long stick and some balance to stand in the boat. Great trips you have.
Jim if I may... Feathering the blade on braces to get the paddle out of the water. Also when you are "pumping" a pry stroke. Not sure if you've heard of Nolan Whitesell , got to paddle a Shredder down the Grand Canyon with him. A heck of a canoeist... Enjoyed the video
Good tips! That is just incredible paddling the Grand Canyon and unreal rapids. Nolan Whitesell I have heard of for sure. Sounds like you learn from the best. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@JimBairdAdventurer Over the years I was very fortunate to paddle with some incredible paddlers. We all can learn something from the people around us. You have been helpful passing along your knowledge/experience with this video. I raced C2 in a World Cup slalom race at Minden years ago.Paddle boarder now days so the water is tamer than when I was 35 but still challenging. At 70 "the older I get the better I was". Thanks again for video
I've done a lot of lake canoeing, but never rivers, so I'm not sure how a canoe would react differently to the same stroke in moving or still water. The brace one you showed isn't on many other videos. Good to know.
Thanks, it’s kinda like riding a bike, at first it feels weird and unstable but then the same situations soon feel like a piece of cake...and if you already have experience paddling on lakes then you’re cruising.
Jim Baird - Adventurer But do the same strokes do and behave basically the same on both still and faster water? It seems to me that if the water is rushing past, it will have a different effect, no?
Flat water is definitely the best place to demonstrate and practice before heading into moving water. They don’t really have a different effect no, like the side slip from drawing or prying will still slip you sideways....you’ll just be traveling down river with the current while you do it. And also, you can use them in conjunction with different currents for different manoeuvres in a rapid. Back paddling would likely feel the most different on flat water vs. moving water because you won’t move backwards when you do it in strong current, it will either slow you don’t or stop you....and if your boat’s in an angel, your net movement still be sideways (back ferry). A draw stroke, when used to direct the bow into the current of a back-eddy will act in unison with the down river flow and 180 your canoe, planting you safely in the eddy facing you up river when done properly.
Jim Baird - Adventurer Thanks, and don't worry, before I go into moving water, I'll practice and work up slowly. My days of being a foolhardy kid ended a long time ago.
Awesome tips from the Pro himself...Hope to be getting another canoe soon, but I mostly do lakes, that whitewater your doing up there is crazy! I know...not crazy for you...lol. Thanks for the tips Buddy...be well!
Thanks a lot! Can't say I'm really a pro though, I'm always learning for sure. You might want to check out a Nova Craft Prospector 17' (or 15 if you want to do some soloing) in TuffStuff material. That's what the canoe in this video is made out of. It's durable enough for rapids, the Prospector's hull is flat enough for lakes, yet rockered enough for rapids and rivers, and the Tuff Stuff material is light for portaging. Best all around canoe ever. Nova Craft does sponsor me I should mention, but they're the only manufacturer making that material.
Thanks for pointing me to Nova Craft. They Are obviously top shelf for Canoes. It's all good that your sponsored by them. (actually very cool) I read your testimonial about your model. I like the tuffstuff concept too. Gonna get a quote on a 16 or 17. Maybe prospector...have to keep researching. Your as pro as they get buddy...don't be modest...lol. Thanks for the sub man..I am honored! Look forward to more canoe vids! Take care!
Thanks, and ya, sorry I hadn't subscribed already. If you're looking for just flat water like lakes, you might want to look at another model with a flatter bottom that will allow you to go faster. And maybe another, even lighter material like kevlar if you don't need the added durability for rapids.
Appreciate your guidance here...I have not been able to talk with anyone that knows a crap about canoes. So, lets say 75% lake / 25% whitewater...I am 270lbs...Mostly solo, but would like the possibility of double? Mostly row out and fish, but would like to cover water swiftly. With these added details...what model and length would you recommend. Thanks Jim!
Hey Buddy..saw your interview on Fowlers channel...was hilarious!!! You guys sure seem to be feeling good after all that Alone experience...glad that you both recovered well and are enjoying the win. Take care.
You should try the moose river in the Adirondacks . If I remember right. When there is enough run off , it has 7 class v Rapids. Raft or kayak I'm thinking . Not a connute .
Iv'e heard of that one. Pretty spectacular I'm sure. I suppose those 5s can be portaged if a canoe was to be used. It's definitely not a remote river like the northern Canadian and Alaskan ones I paddle, but is probably takes a lot less time and less money to access.
Jim Baird The Adventurer it's a day trip. The Vs are the main deal though . Great adrenaline rush. it's probably not for you but a lot of fun for a day trip and kayak or Raft that could improve skills. Going around them would not be worth the trip . Adirondack outfitters puts together a great experience and not too bad on the wallet.
I have not but it’s something that I’d like to do some time. There is some great stuff out there, a few instructional vids by Paul Mason. Then for books - Paddle your own canoe by the McGuffans and Path of the Paddle by Bill Mason are the two books I learned WW from. I found The Complete Wilderness Paddler to be good too, and the Canoeing Wild Rivers by Cliff Jacobson taught me the rest I needed to know for my expeditionary canoe trips.
Haha, thanks man...I got one now and a pretty good one with a brim. It’s called a Strutter and it’s by Sweet Protection. Seems I was late to the helmet game and ended up getting one after a bunch of public shaming on social media. No one used to wear them when I was a kid.
Jim's all strength, what a beast. For us mortals refining the technique, is the way to success, get these strokes down on flat water first and build your skills technique and strength.
This is extremely helpful! Now out to practice!
Right on! Enjoy!
Great advice Jim and to show it is even better
Thanks a lot!
I've been admiring the spray cover. I see so many canoe videos where the paddlers rush into the turmoil, slow it down, back paddle a little.
Thanks, it's a great deck that is versatile, so I can use it solo or tandem. It's by Northwater paddle Sports Equipment. Back paddling is defiantly a great way to gain control, and back-ferrying is a great way to navigate a canoe in rapids, particularly when it's heavily loaded.
Another over looked method is the pole. May not be the ticket in class three waters but during the dry summer and low water levels a pole will allow one to pick around the bones. I see many canoeist getting out and wading through knee deep water when all the need is a long stick and some balance to stand in the boat. Great trips you have.
downeast primitive skills absolutely....still used a lot down east I understand
Jim if I may... Feathering the blade on braces to get the paddle out of the water. Also when you are "pumping" a pry stroke. Not sure if you've heard of Nolan Whitesell , got to paddle a Shredder down the Grand Canyon with him. A heck of a canoeist... Enjoyed the video
Good tips! That is just incredible paddling the Grand Canyon and unreal rapids. Nolan Whitesell I have heard of for sure. Sounds like you learn from the best. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@JimBairdAdventurer Over the years I was very fortunate to paddle with some incredible paddlers. We all can learn something from the people around us. You have been helpful passing along your knowledge/experience with this video. I raced C2 in a World Cup slalom race at Minden years ago.Paddle boarder now days so the water is tamer than when I was 35 but still challenging. At 70 "the older I get the better I was". Thanks again for video
I’m getting in to canoeing and I’m a long way off any big white water but this was very useful 👍
Please do more of these Jim!! Thank you
Really like your videos
Can you do more technique style videos like this one for those new to whitewater canoe that would be awesome👍
I've done a lot of lake canoeing, but never rivers, so I'm not sure how a canoe would react differently to the same stroke in moving or still water.
The brace one you showed isn't on many other videos. Good to know.
Thanks, it’s kinda like riding a bike, at first it feels weird and unstable but then the same situations soon feel like a piece of cake...and if you already have experience paddling on lakes then you’re cruising.
Jim Baird - Adventurer But do the same strokes do and behave basically the same on both still and faster water? It seems to me that if the water is rushing past, it will have a different effect, no?
Flat water is definitely the best place to demonstrate and practice before heading into moving water. They don’t really have a different effect no, like the side slip from drawing or prying will still slip you sideways....you’ll just be traveling down river with the current while you do it. And also, you can use them in conjunction with different currents for different manoeuvres in a rapid. Back paddling would likely feel the most different on flat water vs. moving water because you won’t move backwards when you do it in strong current, it will either slow you don’t or stop you....and if your boat’s in an angel, your net movement still be sideways (back ferry). A draw stroke, when used to direct the bow into the current of a back-eddy will act in unison with the down river flow and 180 your canoe, planting you safely in the eddy facing you up river when done properly.
Jim Baird - Adventurer Thanks, and don't worry, before I go into moving water, I'll practice and work up slowly. My days of being a foolhardy kid ended a long time ago.
This is why I subscribed👍
Congrats on Alone Jim
ExplosiveGames 721 big thanks man!
Excellent! Thanks for the lessons.
Mac Gillicutty no prob!! Thanks for checking it out
Thanks Jim: Lot different than my Haliburton Highlands Waterways trip. Brian 77
Love that area, I want to get out around there more.
Excellent!
Thanks a lot!!
See. I knew I'd love this channel! :)
Janean L. Watkins nice! Great that you like it!
well done and said...top notch help.
Much appreciated Mike!
Awesome tips from the Pro himself...Hope to be getting another canoe soon, but I mostly do lakes, that whitewater your
doing up there is crazy! I know...not crazy for you...lol. Thanks for the tips Buddy...be well!
Thanks a lot! Can't say I'm really a pro though, I'm always learning for sure. You might want to check out a Nova Craft Prospector 17' (or 15 if you want to do some soloing) in TuffStuff material. That's what the canoe in this video is made out of. It's durable enough for rapids, the Prospector's hull is flat enough for lakes, yet rockered enough for rapids and rivers, and the Tuff Stuff material is light for portaging. Best all around canoe ever. Nova Craft does sponsor me I should mention, but they're the only manufacturer making that material.
Thanks for pointing me to Nova Craft. They Are obviously top shelf for Canoes. It's all good that your sponsored by them. (actually very cool) I read your testimonial about your model. I like the tuffstuff concept too. Gonna get a quote on a 16 or 17. Maybe prospector...have to keep researching. Your as pro as they get buddy...don't be modest...lol. Thanks for the sub man..I am honored! Look forward to more canoe vids! Take care!
Thanks, and ya, sorry I hadn't subscribed already. If you're looking for just flat water like lakes, you might want to look at another model with a flatter bottom that will allow you to go faster. And maybe another, even lighter material like kevlar if you don't need the added durability for rapids.
Appreciate your guidance here...I have not been able to talk with anyone that knows a crap about canoes.
So, lets say 75% lake / 25% whitewater...I am 270lbs...Mostly solo, but would like the possibility of double?
Mostly row out and fish, but would like to cover water swiftly. With these added details...what model and length would you recommend. Thanks Jim!
Hey Buddy..saw your interview on Fowlers channel...was hilarious!!! You guys sure seem to be feeling
good after all that Alone experience...glad that you both recovered well and are enjoying the win. Take care.
Is that a better canoe than the one you and Ted built out on Alone? Haha.
James Mitchell bahahaha. Yup, just a little
You should try the moose river in the Adirondacks . If I remember right. When there is enough run off , it has 7 class v Rapids. Raft or kayak I'm thinking . Not a connute .
Iv'e heard of that one. Pretty spectacular I'm sure. I suppose those 5s can be portaged if a canoe was to be used. It's definitely not a remote river like the northern Canadian and Alaskan ones I paddle, but is probably takes a lot less time and less money to access.
Jim Baird The Adventurer it's a day trip. The Vs are the main deal though . Great adrenaline rush. it's probably not for you but a lot of fun for a day trip and kayak or Raft that could improve skills. Going around them would not be worth the trip . Adirondack outfitters puts together a great experience and not too bad on the wallet.
👍👍🤠🤓
Thanks!
Have you ever thought about writing a book or producing a video to buy on reading white water, paddling, etc. We would purchase it.
I have not but it’s something that I’d like to do some time. There is some great stuff out there, a few instructional vids by Paul Mason. Then for books - Paddle your own canoe by the McGuffans and Path of the Paddle by Bill Mason are the two books I learned WW from. I found The Complete Wilderness Paddler to be good too, and the Canoeing Wild Rivers by Cliff Jacobson taught me the rest I needed to know for my expeditionary canoe trips.
@@JimBairdAdventurer Thank you.
Let's take up a collection and get this guy a helmet.
Haha, thanks man...I got one now and a pretty good one with a brim. It’s called a Strutter and it’s by Sweet Protection. Seems I was late to the helmet game and ended up getting one after a bunch of public shaming on social media. No one used to wear them when I was a kid.
@@JimBairdAdventurer glad to hear it! Great video.
Thank you sir! Too bad you didn’t take up that collection earlier as they’re not cheap!
Have you ever considered kayaking instead of traveling with canoe?
I’m sure it’s not easy to pack a kayak for 14 days in wilderness
the opposite of the draw is the pry.
Sure 👍 and so is the cross draw I suppose from the standpoint of which way it moves your boat.
Different strokes for different folks. 🤘