Harbor Freight 1x30 Sharp in 3 minutes
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The intended purpose of this video was just to quickly show sharpening that could be achieved. It was also recorded 3yrs ago and methods have greatly surpassed this by now. For the gentleman who so politely asked, "WHAT F****** ANGLE DO YOU HAVE IT SET TO? SEEMS IMPORTANT!!! Ive provided you the spoon fed information in the description above. Regardless, the angle itself doesnt matter its the progression, grit level, scratch pattern at the apex, and ultimately the honing step that is most critical.
I've been collecting knives for only 3 or 4 years actively and naturally I want to be able to sharpen them. I've purchased 2 lanskys and a work sharp with the blade grinder attachment and of all 3 I've had more success with the cheap lansky with the 2 rods. I'm wonder what is the most important thing to do on a belt sharpener like the work sharp. After watching this video I want to run down to harbor freight and get the 1×30 but the principle of the work sharp is the same but whats keeping me from getting those razor sharp edges
could you do an updated video with some tips and tricks you have learned?
@@auskip07 guess whats coming tomorrow...
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I'm really impressed. Especially considering that is a peice of shit knife. I taught knife skills at a culinary Institute. That knife I wouldn't use to spread butter is so shit. With that being said, you sir, have made it useful enough to slice meat. Good job.
Before buying this sander I would use a rotary sander ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx3Pc2vLXfcgM5oIpF1iYcIWyFhHUC-G6v and didn't see the need for a belt sander. Boy was I wrong. this belt sander does the job quickly and gives a professional finish to the wood work.
Very nice presentation and seems to be quick and wffective. Thanks
Thanks for all the practical information 🎉
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
I'm wanting to make a knife work for making the edge or would I need something else
may i ask ...where to get sharpening belts ? the belt sander at harbor freight only comes with a very rough grit belt that looks like its for wood. thank you for your minute sir.
how/where did you come up with the angle? is that an attachment that comes with the sander?
Inspired by this video I bought this sander so I gotta know where did you get that tool rest and angle jig? Really like to have one. Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
Please visit our shop at www.currycustomcutlery.com/shop for angle guides and best price on highest quality sharpening abrasives.
Where did you buy the leather strope that fit on that machine and the green stuff you put on it
Great video! Do you have any recommendations for an inexpensive way for sharpening a knife without a belt sander? I'm new at this and any advice would help
Japanese stone
Thanks for the video. Friggin great looking knife.
Thx Gary
I just bought my 1x30 sander I found an old rust knife started working on it I tell you what I need a lot of practice I thought I just would be able to get right into it it's not as easy a people make it look I wanted to ask you when I was removing all the rust I got carried away you know that edge that runs down the middle of the blade well I lost it any tips on how to get it back and the tip as well I'm having a hard time keeping it at point
Hey Cliff, what's involved in mounting the angle guide and do you have a video show the installation process?
Cheers Pete
Hey Pete, the angle guide just slips onto the 1 x 30's platen and is held in place with a tensioned clip. It's easy to pop on and off if needed. That's why Cliff was easily able to remove it for the final stropping step in the Vid.
I did this last week for the first time and it went so so. I don’t think I’ve done a sharp enough angle even though I thought I’d put it at 17 degrees. Maybe I’m getting the line up mark wrong. It’s not very clear where you line up the 17 with. I’m going to repeat today at a lower angle
I had a disaster with the leather strop too. I think I’ve not got the compound on finely enough. Bits of it were bumping the knife and leaving black gunge on blade. It also made the blade worse than before. It’s all about learning as you go along. Looking forward to having another crack at it today 👍🏴
Angle doesn't matter nearly as much as making sure with the first step you apex and are holding the knife against the angle guide. The second step in stopping step will follow easy after that.
Did that angle attachment come with the sander?
Thanks - good video. So, you have the knife edge up with sandpaper, and edge down honing ?
Thats the basic idea. Edge leading for sharpening to minimize the burr. Edge trailing with the leather so it dont damage the belt and hurt the operator. The ONLY way to safely sharpen edge leading into a belt is with an angle guide and even then do so at your own risk ofcourse. Aloha
@@theIndoCurrys Isn't Edge leading dangerous if the knife bites?
Nice setup. I have what seems to be the same grinder -- but does the knife not dig into the sandpaper with that jig?
i just asked the same question.
New video soon on edge leading with angle guide vs trailing
Nice job very effective
Where do you get the angle jig
Hey Cliff - Do you have a video on how to make the angle guide you’re using?
Came here looking for same info
We have on our website...
shop.currycustomcutlery.com/collections/sharpening-accessories/products/angle-guide
Nice work...running the machine in that orientation was always awkward to me...I wall mounted mine so it's just like a bench stone while sharpening
We have a Video on how to build a box to make it easy to flip back n forth:
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I just found your channel from a FB group. Couple questions, what is the best chart on the wall in the background? What kind of respirator do you use when running the 1x30?
Thank you & for looking forward to all your other videos.
Google Grand Unified Grit Chart...
For safety use combo of magnets, suction, vent fans, and 3m respirators
What model is this belt sander?
Where did you find the leather belt I have same sander as you I hear that can get leather belt but no one seems to carry them thanks again
Tru grit, supergit, or Amazon should have
Hi I noticed that you did not use any Honing Oil?
I see some spray that on the belt and was curious. Asking only because I just purchased same belt grinder/sander.
Also, is the tool mounted for 45° backing support custom add? Or a part that can be ordered?
Thanks in advance.😊
some people use compounds others use diamond sprays. I use both. The belt had compound on it.
For the angle guide and belts you can visit my website. It is legit the best prices around on quality sharpening abrasives.
www.currycustomcutlery.com/products
another excellent demo. Have the angle guide as well, been cautioned about the blade going into the grit rather than like you did with leather blade facing down. You are the pro and I am taking lessons/ Gentle touch is the key
My HF 1x30 SiC belt pulses and make a loud thumping noise when I gently push anything against the platen. Makes the angle guide unusable. I've tried different belts, same prob. Yours is quiet. What should I do?
Looks like this video might have your solution: ua-cam.com/video/L9fLqqL7mvQ/v-deo.html
The first few passes did you use the angle of the bevel or the flat side of the blade ?
It was a bad "angle" for the camera thats for sure...one of the first videos I tried to do. Should always try to do the flat of the blade, some blades make that difficult.
What size and grit diamond wheel, sir?
How did you make your jig?
nice vid bud.
Been looking to get, you convinced me!🤠☕
Great video. Where did you get the angle jig?
Check description
How does it retain an edge
Did you make the angle guide to attach on there?
Angle guide can be purchased at our webstore along with belts n other goodies.
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Friend thanks for the video.
how long is the piece the blade rests on? I have a head knife I want to sharpen
justin urra I did a short video on the angle guide as well. It's about 1" across and 1.5" deep. make short work of any curved blade by pivoting and rotate while holding flat down on guide.
great video, can´t wait to buy one of those little sanders, just don´t understand why some people are so hard on them, they seem to do the job nicely.
I honestly dont know....the stock version motor is annoying pitched whine and goes very fast but as a frame/base to build a machine from they are excellent
I just looked at another video of sharpening and the screws and angle point down on this one. The other the screws are on the right and angles up toward the blade. . Is there a left and right to this jig. My jig points down toward the belt.Screws on left side looking at sander.
You have someones Idea of an improvement. But I could tell you this wouldnt work as I tried it early on in my career.
Where did you get it pls?
Off EBay
@@robertblalock5009 we have them on our website along with highest quality 3m Cubitron, Trizact, Leather, Felt, & Scotch Brite belts
What about for Axes? What kind of grit would you recommend?
Low grit to remove damage...maybe Cubitron p80
shop.currycustomcutlery.com/collections/belts/products/cubitron-belts
Where did you get the higher grit belts and the leather belt? Harbor freight tools said they don’t make them! Thanks
Check my newest belt review video for lots of good info.
Curry custom cutlery
I just bought this unit. Where do I get the angled jig and all the belts you used ? I couldn’t find belts above 120!
Here there we have great deals on belts for sharpeners and the angle guide. Website and products are getting an overhaul this week but happy to help if can. Call or msg direct. Thx
I decided to give it a try and what shocked me was that Harbor Freight and all of the local hardware stores do not sell the grit belts I need to sharpen a knife! I had to buy the belts I needed online from Amazon. And yeah, I will admit, I suck at it, but there's something fascinating about sharpening a blade my way that I can't accurately describe.
We have excellent sharpening belts at our Shop:
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You suck because you aren't using a guide. It makes literally all the difference
Awesome! Need that 1x30
Highly suggest a variable or slower speed model. The Rikon 50-161 for example
what angle are you using on guide??
wolf1 that's a really good question. It's been so long ago I don't remember and I should have mentioned it but I was new at making videos then. Honestly it doesn't matter anywhere from 15 to 20 degrees would be a safe bet for a good Edge depending on the application.
how did you make your 15 deg template? can you explain about that?
shop.currycustomcutlery.com/collections/sharpening-accessories/products/angle-guide
Ok I'm wanting to buy this and start sharpening. 2 question. #1 having never used a belt sander I thought that you would sharpen towards the edge not the backbone like with whetstones? #2 do you have a list of different belts and suppliers that you use that I could start getting everything purchased?
Aloha Ben. We have everything available on our website.
shop.currycustomcutlery.com
@@CurryCustomCutlery ok. And my ignorance of belt sanding towards the edge like with whetstones vs away?
@@BenGreenawalt there are advantages to going both directions edge leading with the angle guide is my preferred method but it is only safe with the angle guide. Message me directly or email for more instructions as needed. The videos are here to help people learn also
Did it come with an angle guide, if not how did you make yours............Thanks for the video.
we offer them on our website along with excellent belts:
shop.currycustomcutlery.com
Where can I get the leather belt
Is the belt motion going from bottom to top or top to bottom in the front?
From top to bottom.
Where did you get the strop for the sander?
We offer a complete quality line of sharpening products at best prices around including leather and felt strops:
www.currycustomcutlery.com/products
do you use any old belts you buy off amazon or do you use expensive ceramic belts?
We actually sell belts at excellent prices but focus on cubitron and trizact belts because they last so long. Its 10 times the belt life for double the cost. I can sharpen 40 knives on 1 cubitron belt for under $5
currycustomcutlery.com/shop/belts/cubitron-ii/cubitron-belts/
Where did you get the angle guide?
Surgi-Sharp angle guide. I have a video on it as well.
I don’t see the angle guide your using. I bought one from Amazon that was for the harbor freight unit and it was junk. What your using here looks right. Can you sell that product or direct me to it? Thanks John
Which one did you get from Amazon? We will have a new batch in stock within a few days at shop.currycustomcutlery.com
I don't know if I asked you already is that leather strap rough side out or smooth side out
either way will work and some have their own preference. I go rough side out and let it mellow out over time
You appear to have some kind of quick release on your belt tension? What is it and where did you get it or did you make it?
The "quick release" is just the normal operation of the tension/tracking swing arm when its been adjusted properly. The pivot bolt at bottom of swing arm is over tight from factory...
If I don’t tighten my idler the belt walks off to the left. I wish mine operated as does yours...
did you make the leather belt or do they sell them just for that sander I'm trying to get into knife sharing
Leather belt is another "surgi-sharp" item available on Amazon. Because its a natural product it may be wonky tho. My first belt seasoned up nicely, 2nd belt was loose, 3rd belt was wobbly etc. YMMV
Another option is synthetic felt belts, they run smooth but you may miss out on the burnishing effects leather offers.
Curry Custom Cutlery thank you
nice!!
Hello, great video!! Did you make your leather strap or purchase??
We sell on our website shop.currycustomcutlery.com/collections/belts/products/leather-belt
Enjoyed the video, especially no BS.
Thx Bill, Try to keep it interesting and keep it moving!
I have a lot of nice folders,can I sharpen them the same way?
Im a collector of low to medium high end folders as well. This method with angle guide is closest and best to Wicked Edge or other clamp based systems Ive found. This video is very old tho, before I add slower speed motor for better control.
how did you make the angled piece that fits on the plenum???
Its a purchased product, usually runs around $30. Called the Surgi Sharp angle guide. He did a short video on it as well.
Did you make the jig? How do you accomplish that m
Angle guide and sharpening belts available on our website:
www.currycustomcutlery.com/products
Hello, i am amazed how quickly you always get a burr on the P120. Is it possible that Edge Trailing works slower? Or do the Cubitron make the difference? I am currently using the "Work Sharp" and working with the running direction (Edge Trailing). Sorry for my bad English. I use google tr anslator.
Speed angle and pressure. Use a good light to see the burr
@@CurryCustomCutlery Thank You!
Did you make that angle guide?
See description pls
Has any one but me turned the grinder on it’s back so the belt is flat horizontal like grinding on a stone that’s how I do all of mine for professional sharpening.
I'm guessing you're talking about Edge trailing on the slack belt while in the horizontal position? Yeah I showed up and several of my following videos after this.
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Good morning sir
Where did you get the jig?
www.currycustomcutlery.com
I used to do this in shop class, made a few ninja throwing shurikens too.
I need to learn how to sharpen my knives better and definitely get a set up like this.
Its an easy process
where did you get the leather belt ?
Old old video sorry. Leather belt can by found at lots of places on line. I have a couple belt review videos that go into details. Cheers
How did u make ur jig
I have a video on it. Surgi-sharp angle guide.
People really make sharpening knives, chisels, and plane irons much much more difficult than it really is.
Its very true but also to learn and refine skills and technique doesnt happen quick or easy.
how did u make the jig?
Jig is for sale on our website:
currycustomcutlery.com/shop/sharpening-accessories/angle-guide/
Sharpening angle guide, $30 on Amazon, just ordered one.
You can get them for 12
What was the last belt?
old old video...I explain better in "Dull to shaving in 1 minute"
I have one but I think it runs too fast and generates too much heat, even with 1000 grit. I'll stick with my Lansky for honing but I love the sander for power stripping with a 1x30 leather belt.
Higher grits increase the friction, lighter pressure and quicker passes helps.
Definitely recommend the leather Strop for this
We also have a new felt strop belt that works well and is super durable. Wont stretch or deform like leather can if not careful.
Is that the jig from Amazon with sharpening belts ?
Same as Amazons jig, they dropped their price a bit below ours but we still have best belts n prices. Quality belts make a HUGE difference. www.currycustomcutlery.com
Wow! How much for that at harbor freight?
As a follow up to the leather strop ,a suitable leather trouser belt can be used.
If done correctly on machine should be good.
May I ask if the direction of the belt is upward or downward? if downward, is it possible the knife will bite the belt?
Belts moving down edge leading. With angle guide it's safe enough. Always the risk of catching an edge of the belt but if you're aware of it it is not a problem.
@@CurryCustomCutlery thank you for your reply. really appreciated it. Where did I can get the angle guide?
@@habibariffin9267 currycustomcutlery.com/shop/sharpening-accessories/angle-guide/
How do you make the guide
Guide is available on our website CurrycustomCutlery.com
How did you make your angle jig?
Its a purchased product, usually runs around $30. Called the Surgi Sharp angle guide. I did a short video on it as well.
Curry Custom Cutlery Thanks. They were out of stock on Amazon but I found one on eBay for the same price with free shipping for anyone else that might be interested. I watched your video as well. Gonna definitely break out the Dremel and cut the groove to compensate for thumb stud folders. Have you ever had a problem with picking up a chattering sound from the platen while sharpening? It got so bad I was just sharpening on the slack but results were less than stellar. I picked up the silica carbide belts and I like you find that they just wear out really fast. I might have to track down some of the Trivex belts in the 200-1000 grit range. Thanks for the great videos for us small grinder guys.
I woujld like to know how you made the jig, the key to this video
Its covered in its own video as its the most often asked question I get by far. Surgi sharp engle guide.
Greta video. I got the $80 CENTRAL MACHINERY 1 in. x 30 in. Belt and 5 in. Disc Sander. I also got on eBay a $38 Edge Trailing’ (AWAY) Knife Sharpening Angle Guide and a 12 pack of 1” x 30” Sharpening / Sanding belts. (2) Each of: 120 Grit Firestorm Ceramic Polyester Belt, 220 Grit Ceramic Alumina Closed Coat Belt, 400 Grit Aluminum Oxide Soft Closed Coat Belt, 600 Grit Aluminum Oxide Soft Closed Coat Belt, 800 Grit Aluminum Oxide Soft Closed Coat Belt & 1200 Grit Aluminum Oxide Blue Film Belt.
The edge trailing angle guides dont work well for precise sharpening because the belt will ALWAYS try to pull the knife off the guide as it spins.
People want edge trailing becuase it safer but it leaves a large feather burr that over all is weaker at the apex.
@@CurryCustomCutlery Thank you very much for your comments. I'm new at this, I will order a Edge Leading Sharpening Angle Guide & try to be careful that I don't get hurt.
I dont use a stop I like the belt to flex so that it produces a convex edge.
It's nice to have options. If you're using the belt without a platten I highly recommend you go edge trailing for safety. Unfortunately that method leaves a huge feather Burr. It can of course be removed but I have suspicions that it weakens the edge perhaps a little bit
@@CurryCustomCutlery That's how J. Neilson sharpens his knives. ;-)
Yes the edge is always pointed down on the belt. I follow up with a leather strop 1 x 30 belt.
"and methods have greatly surpassed this now."
What method(s) are they? Because this video looks top notch! If, however, there is something better, I would like to know, please. Thank you!
Plenty of videos in his chanel.
Sharpening in Under 1 Minute. My personal favorite video atm.
@@redangrybird7564 Im back baby...send me video ideas youd like to see
nice scary nook there under the stairwell. Or possible basement dungeon
Broom closet thank you very much...lol
I wondered if that was a surgi sharp. Been looking at them awhile and not pulled the trigger on one. Now that I've seen it in action I think I will.
ilbw8n qq
I think to get scary sharp, finish on Grey Arkansas Stone and then leather strop by hand.
There are indeed many ways to get many different types of edges. Slicing phone book paper is one test but free standing is another, splitting hair is another test and so on.
Where can you get the leather 1x30 strop like that? Thanks for the video
Brandon Bailey www.woodworkingshop.com/product/wp30000/
When you have 10 to 15 kitchen knives to sharpen . This saves time.
When starting with a piece of 1/8 1080 it takes forever to remove any decent amount of material. Any tips?
What grit abrasive are you using?
The leather strop for this machine is a good idea.
There work very very well!
shop.currycustomcutlery.com/collections/belts/products/leather-belt
you didn't want to show us how you made your angle jig?
I didnt make it. Its a purchased product you can by. We even sell it on our website. ;)
www.currycustomcutlery.com/products
I used the hf sander to 1000 grit and it's no where near hair popping sharp..I guess you need the strop belt which I don't have
Stropping step is critical
My question is even though the belt is moving downwards you can still sharpen the knife facing up? Hmmm.
Yes, method is called edge leading and we will be doing a new video on this way soon.
@@CurryCustomCutlery ok good deal!
Why isn't it making sparks ? mine sparks quiet a bit
Sparking depends on a couple things mostly the carbon content or metallurgical makeup of what you're grinding. Also the type of belt that you are using could have a factor
@@CurryCustomCutlery I'm using a very coarse one 😂
Very interesting, thanks for sharing -M1rroredge