Naughty Dog's Demise From Within
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
- Factions 2 cancelled, a foggy future, and one too many remasters and remakes has put my view of naughty dog in a state of uncertainty
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So I was already cooking this up in the lab before all the factions 2 news lol. Timing is everything I guess huh? 😅
nah bruh why use demise from within lmfaoooooooo just use a fall from grace its way funnier
The universe works in mysterious ways😂
My question is how come Sony hasn’t done anything about ND job anatomy.
Just to read how much the developers celebrated and enjoyed playing Factions 2 after it got cancelled was a punch to the gut.
@Awoken777it’s really not but go off. A goty can’t be a distant memory maybe for you
Sony bought bluepoint for remasters and remakes not knowing they already had Naughty Dog 😂
That’s insane to say 😭😂
Have some respect sir 😂
NAAH, that's wild LMAOOOO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s not why they bought Bluepoint. They are literally making an original game now because of Sony.
You people sound so woke.
Amy Hennig was giving us the good stuff and the industry pushed her aside for Neil Druckmann.
The fall of naughty fog started with the leave of Amy Henigg
No idiot, Uncharted 3 was underwhelming, Uncharted 4 was written by Druckmann and was way better, her ideas for 4 were scrapped because they were garbage, Amy Henning had no part in TLOU 1 , Druckmann wrote it too. And Henning shipped not one game anyone remembers after she left.
Ahhh yes. Neil Druckmann. The type of man that would take an extra day off during the week to help his wife’s boyfriend move in.
lmaooooooo bro
Yall hate Neil for no reason
@@akkibajaj705Drove out Amy henning who wrote Uncharted and the legendary Soul Reaver franchise , Ruining a beloved character like Joel and killing him in the worst way possible , Letting Anita Sarkeesium be involved in the development of many projects “ She is a toxic feminists who hate men “ ,, Yeah man we hate nail Cuckman for no reason .
neil druckman is gay
@@akkibajaj705 Plenty of reasons
you forgot:
- abuse reports of men harassing other men sexually and HR ignoring it
- false marketing on TLOU2 making it look like Joel is in the game more than he ended up being
- calling a resolution patch a "remaster" for the PS4 uncharted games
- leaving out the multiplayer portions out of TLOU/U4 with the rereleases
- conflict with Bend on their development of Days Gone because ND felt they should have the only zombie game
- conflict with Visual Arts team where ND stopped them from making the Uncharted remake they wanted
- the Naughty Dog Agenda
All happening over Neil Cuckman taking over
It's sad when the biggest news from this studio nowadays are cash grab remasters, Mid HBO tv show updates and overpriced merch for outbreak day. They always try to cover bad news with "we are working on SP games guys". We'll be lucky if we get a game in 2027...
Th3y have a history of releasing big games at th3 3nd of a generation.
Respect them and their kitchen of cooking
@InnerRise lol.. And sir you are apart of the problem, stay delusional..
You mean a remaster that actually adds new content for only a $10 upgrade and a tv show that did really well
Meanwhile Insomniac are on their 4th game this generation
@@victor_734 It's not enough, even being the leader in console sales, Sony's still in the red. Your beloved single player exclusives aren't even enough. Why do you think Sony's playing it safe with all these sequels, remakes and remaster. Y'all been playing the same ip's for almost decade now. Same 3rd person, qte bs. Square took a loss with ff16, over 150mil ps owners but just lil over 3mil bought the game. Why do u think Square is done with exclusivity? The Box is about to take over, haven't even got started yet..
I honestly want Naughty Dog to get Amy Hennig back. Druckmann thinks he's the reason Naughty Dog is big. He's also the reason she left.
I forgot that Sam was supposed to be a villain. That sure would’ve been interesting to see
I'm glad you've decided to take the title for biggest Naughty Dog UA-camr Jeremy. Couldn't be me 😉
In all seriousness, great video man! Loving the effort put into the scripts and footage.
😂😂 I will never be a naughty dog youtuber like you were my netherlands brotha. Hope everything is going good on your end sir
@@TheGamer2323 Dang 😂
After the agenda in the last of us 2 I'm done with this company
Last of us is genuinely one of the best and worst things to happen to naughty dog
which is crazy lol
lets not forget that marketing lie with joel in the last of us 2. total disrespect
TLOU 1 is the best thing to happen to ND.
TLOU 2 is the worst thing to happen to ND.
I'm sure if they kept Amy's script for Uncharted 4, they would have had a much bigger role for my boi Hector Alcazar. Something tells me he wasn't supposed to be scrapped. "Samuel, are you ready to seek your fortune?"
Naughty dog has a Neil Druckmann problem. It's been downhill ever since he took over.
I'm still sad he got rid of donut drake 😔
Winnin goty is downhill? Yall are delusional lmao
Neil has nothing to do with Ryan’s GaaS pursuit 😅
@@sparks3289 ppl hate boner for neil druckmann is so weird
Without Neil I reckon they would've drove head first into being a GaaS studio, he's one of the only old guard left there.
Bro its crazy when you show those flash backs of you. Ive been subscribed for years and you don't realize how much you grew up on UA-cam until you see those flash backs. Its crazy.
Time flies my brotha from anotha motha...
All they needed to do was do the same as factions 1 and just give people a normal multiplayer mode why was that so hard 😅
The MP had so much potential with Part IIs gsmeplay
My guess is they just wanted to do more than just a copy of factions with new gameplay
@@Pointman11111honestly they could give us this and I’d be just fine
Pretty sure it's because they wanted to expand it beyond what it was in 2013. It's not like devs never want to be ambitious.
Because the gaming industry is full of Mr.Krabs in a suit. Anything that can be monetized MUST be monetized lol
@@kevinkijowski5980 That ambition is what ended up biting them in the ass though.
This is a VERY well done video!
Wassup my brotha! Hope everything is good on your end
2:10 what is that tune??? Sounds so chilll!!!!!! Please tell me the tunes used in this video. I can vibe to these 😢😮
In before this video pops off. Such a well made documentary and after watching your content for about a decade you are the perfect person to make this type of video.
That Tyrese clip had like me dying 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
I started hating them after they killed Joel. Never gonna play their games.
My boi BrokenGamezHD had his heart broken 💔
RIP “goin straight to dat multiplayer”
More like BrokenHeartHD lol
Naughty dogs inconsistent narrative of last of us 2 was the turning point for me. Added with cash grab method for the last of us franchise
I wasn't aware of that much turnover.
So the studio is not the same studio. It explains a lot
It’s almost like all those pointless awards tlous2 won were for biggest disappointment of that year…..
NaughtyDog’s reputation has been tarnished regardless.
Great vid - we need more mini docs from you! 💯
Love seeing you trying these different style of videos. Keep up the good work, my brother.
Company went downhill after Bruce Straley and Amy Henning left (or allegedly were forced out by Neil Druckmann in a power play) if Last of Us 2 was so successful we would've had a DLC of Neils beloved Abby by now.
Loved this typa video and the commentary my boy keep it up🔥🔥
GREAT job on this video Jeremy. Great editing, transitions, pacing, scripting, audio balance. Fantastic stuff
thanks for your feedback my good sir :)
I really like how you did this video. Serious but not too serious. Great work as always.
Appreciate ya 👊🏾
I feel like Amy hennig leaving did hurt the company, and they were coasting off her work.
Uncharted really did boost Naught Dog staus wise which would lay the groundwork for TLOU. She was also a veteran in the industry so that helped too.
2016 election broke this company just like Hollywood. This is a sad demise for a company that made many of my favorite games of all time. You can’t say these facts waste your time when it’s clear when their downslide began.
Insomniac and Santa Monica have surpassed ND already at this point. Naughty Dog used to be the greatest studio Sony has in terms of quality. Their output of new games is unacceptable, we only got cheap ass remasters and remakes on the ps5 generation from them.
It's only been 3 years since TLOU2 what output are you expecting?
@@voidler just look at Insomniac, 3 NEW AAA games in 3 years (Miles Morales, R&C Rift Apart, Spider-Man 2)
@@shiverseal97 Miles was half a game and 4 hours long. Besides, Insomniac is basically the only Dev achieving that sort of release schedule. And those quicker releases are probably holding them back from winning GOTYs. Do Sucker Punch, Santa Monica, Sony Bend, Rockstar etc all suck as well because they take 5 plus years?
@@voidler ok bro, so now the amount of awards a game wins determine its quality? Rockstar is a different case altogether, they milked GTA 5 for 10 years because it made big cash. I believe GTA 6 as well as RDR2 couldve been released earlier. Explain to me why ND wasted precious resources on a stupid unnecessary remake instead of a new IP?
@@shiverseal97 So you can create reasons for Rockstar taking 7 years between RDR2 and GTA6 but Naughty Dog being without a release for 3 years is unaccapetable.
Naughty Dog have over 700 employees, they can siphon off a few to work on remasters while still making their main projects. Same as Insomniac remastering Spiderman or Rockstar remastering GTA5 again
A good retrospective video on the state of the company over the years
Great video my guy i feel you.
Druckman wants to work in crumbling Hollywood and Naughty Dog lost too many competent employees. Game over.
This is a good example that anything can happen to something great. Everything goes through a dark stage. What goes down eventually has to go up
The saying is “what goes up eventually comes down.” Throw something in the air and gravity will bring it back down. Drop something on the ground and it might bounce back up, but it might also just hit the ground and stay there.
@@ValidEarYT Very true as well. If nothing gets addressed the situation can also get far worse.
Ummm. No. Say that to blockbuster and all the companies Amazon killed. They never came back up
@@sleasy01 Did you read my reply above, I understand that it can get worse as well.
"has to go back up"? Or it can *crash and burn* .
everyone saw this coming from a mile away lmao. it seems like every time we hear of anything from naughty dog nowadays, it's always something negative
Once Shawn Layden left Playstation, every studio has gone stagnant. The showmanship left with Layden. Naughty Dog went downhill when Neil migrated to Movies, and said forget those games
What movies ? WTF are you talking about?
@@badtothebone93he doesn't know what he's on about
He produced the Uncharted Film (mediocre trash) and has been dedicating his time more so to The Last Of Us TV show as showrunner/writer. In simple terms, he went to Hollywoo.
@@theprowler18 he did not produce the Uncharted movie LMAO,and the show was directed by Craig mazin not sure what you're talking about
If I speak...
Bad playstation news drop weekly brother you got no choice but to speak
No intro theme, he just diving straight into it?!! Oh yeah this vid about to be a banger!!
Uncharted 4 was the last naughty dog game I played. Ever since then they've never been the same
Uncharted lost legacy > uncharted 4 & that wasn't even directed by niel druckman
Uncharted 4 was the worse out of the uncharted series it was more last of us like than uncharted
I think Neil is the common denominator in all this mess 😂
He is also the common denominator in their most successful period of all time
@@voidler yea but there were other people there for their most successful time as well and once they started dipping it all went downhill.
@@mightynemesis94 it hasn't gone downhill though. If they release a bad game we can talk
@@voidler last of us 2 was bad for their standards
@@mightynemesis94 no it won GOTY everywhere, majority of people loved it
great video, im glad some have finally seen the light that i have seen 10 years ago. ND biggest problem was when they publicly said theyre going to stop making fun games. serious/drama games take a very long time to make and as we all can see, get tiring.
Love the quality of the vids recently brotha
Been waiting for this my brother!!!
Very well said and 100% truthful banger video 🔥
Damn good as video/topic . Good job homie .
Oh shit. Damn love the quality of the editing
After watching this entire video, I can't help but worry about the state of Naughty Dog. Yeah they blessed us with some many great games, but it all came at a cost. And now they're giving us remasters and remakes that we don't need(but low-key though, I'll gladly take a Jak & Daxter remake)and cancelled a game that we all been looking forward to. Like what's going to happen next for Naughty Dog?
Well unlike EA or Microsoft, thankfully, Sony doesn't have a habit of killing studios. Even the team behind Days Gone, which Sony has been treating with nothing but overt contempt despite raking in exponential profits, gets to stay alive but be shuffled off to do work for other studios.
So what you can expect to see if things get worse is an internal investigation and restructuring, which is *exactly* what they need. Right now, literally every single issue Naughty Dog has can be traced to one man, Neil Druckmann, and it may take the company getting close to being shut down before they are willing to put a stop to him.
It's all Neil's fault.
Boohhoo let’s blame it all on one man
@@victor_734but Neil druckman is apart of the problem.
@@victor_734One man or the president of rapidly deteriorating studio?
🤣🤣
@@victor_734 what are you gonna do about it?
When key game makers start leaving an outstanding studio, that's always the sign. I give Rockstar the credit they never break up the band
I'm pretty sure R* has lost valuable people throughout. The thing is, as a studio, they never compromise what they believe in. They also uphold their standard of quality.
Workplace wise is another story tho.
Urm. Dan Houser, Lazlow Jones and Lezlie Benzies all dipped and those were the most integral members of Rockstar Games...
He doesn't know.
Hardcore single player gang was going woooo on Twitter. While other folks were sad.
I'm mainly single player myself but even I feel bad for folks who were looking forward to it.
"The last of us 3" *everybody hops back on P*
Just wanted to write that you summed up the situation rather well for the chaotic mess that is Naughty Dog. Between the production hell of the last two titles, the damaging PR interviews with Druckmann and Gross admitting via Indiewire the mess the script was in and how they changed it constantly on the fly, it is clear the plot has been lost on the whole company with retention numbers through the roof and having to rely on contractors via the VFX industry to get it done (what happened during TLOU 2 production). Honestly, with so many key figures gone including the founder Evan Wells, it's safe to say they have gone the way of Bioware in becoming a husk of their former selves. It sucks but it's inevitable. PS: Neil Druckmann deserves the criticism and getting pimp slap for wasting the talented actor Jeffery Wright (fantastic recently in American Fiction) for two scenes...yes only two scenes.
Appreciate you and thanks for your insight
Evan Wells wasn't the founder. He was made co President in 2005 and full President in 2017. He retired after 30 years in the industry, it's not like he left somewhere else (at least nothing like that has been announced).
Like Druckmann he was promoted to President from within. Not sure why people are against them promoting successful Devs from within like they always have
My guy, your quality is officially topping RobinGaming now. TheRobin2323
That man quit gaming a long time ago, just doing reaction stuff now
if 80% of your former devs left due to horrible treatment and power tripping, its no longer naughty dog. Its a skin walker.
I love the change in formula for this video. You should do other studios from playstation
I've done a few videos in this style. Check the description for more. I just don't do them to often cause though it's a style I enjoy, I have to be motivated on the topic at hand to do it cause they take a lot more effort & time than my normal videos
Funny enough Abbys face model was apart of that 70% depature as well mentioned halfway into the video
Damn bro you killed it with this vid! SHEEEEEEEEESH!
wassup brotha jedi!
This is a very different style of video for you, and i love it. You should talk about jim ryan and the playstation brand next.
Can we all finally admit something strange is happening at Sony?
Sony or Naughty Dog? You can't lump all the developers into one bag.
@@cun7usat Sony. It's not just ND. It's the whole company
@@sleasy01 what about it?
@@cun7us where you want to start? The firings and layoffs or the 8 cancelled games?
@@sleasy01 firings and layoffs? What are you, a human resources manager or something? What concern is it of yours if Sony lays off staff? That's the nature of business. It doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever.
Which 8 cancelled games?
My guy doing a docu style Video 😱😱😱🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Awesome vid bro 👏🏻🔥
I'm a bit late to the party, but this is a really well made video! Couldn't have explained it better.
I just want another Uncharted game. There’s many directions they could go in for example:
U5, reboot, remake of U1, Sully prequel, Sir Francis Drake prequel, etc. Here’s hoping Bluepoint or someone else from a Sony 😮 makes the next installment since Naughty Dog said they’re done with the franchise. Uncharted is too big of an IP just to let die. It carried the PS3 and part of the PS4 generation.
Regrading the future of Naughty Dog themselves, while I’m not a hater, I am disappointed with the cancellation of Factions II, and the remaster games this gen. They should reopen the U2 or U3 multiplayer again or something lmao.
Been waiting for this one. 🍿
You put alot of work in this video. Respect my brotha ✊🏾
Incredible vid TG! 🔥
Hear me out... It's Neil Cuckman that's been drowning Naughty Dog to the ground when it comes to creative standpoint but ever since he took the reigns as Creative Director speaks for itself...
Jeez grow up
@@victor_734he right tho, ND is straight garbagio
@@victor_734I'm not complaining brotha, just stating facts...
@@VenomHernandez Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us Part 2 are ND’s best games
@@victor_734 Like hell they are. Uncharted 4 is the weakest of the franchise and TLOU 2 was just plain bad. I hope you're just trolling.
It's sad seeing a lot of legacy devs just become a shell of their former self. Bioware, Bungie, Naughty Dog, Bethesda. It's happening to a lot of once GOATS in the industry.
This was a super well put together video and explains a lot about how after the core members leave, there's no vision anymore and everything falls apart. A lot of the older games like The Last of Us or Halo 3 almost felt like magic in a bottle. Maybe devs just can't hold onto the magic forever...
Everything goes away with time, and every society, culture, and industry has eras, it goes up and down. Its why I'm not mad about the degradation of famous film IPs like Star Wars anymore, nothing can exist for like 100 years and maintain quality, but maybe with enough time everything returns to glory.
Either way, we gotta be grateful that good things were ever good to begin with, keeping with star wars as an example, maybe its hubris for me to ever have thought I deserve more than 6 mostly excellent films with 13 hours of total content in a well plotted story, I choose to be grateful nowadays. When it comes to media we gotta let things go.
Top vid Boss-man....100% accurate
Great Mini Doc.
Nicely summed up all the things I’ve been thinking about Naughty Dog for quite some time. And I’m concerned that rumored Uncharted 5 may actually be better because it is not made by today’s Naughty Dog. Guess we’ll see soon enough
Love these types of videos man keep it up💙
I havent even watched the video yet i just wanna say i been waiting on your reaction my brotha
I need the music name that starts around 10min mark please 😊
Well done I'm so proud of you. You could consider me one of your OG subscribers. I subscribe to you less than 100 subscribers at the time 11- 13 year ago. You used to do PSN updates on PS3, you used to be nervous talking in front of the camera. For over the years you have grown into a stronger person an overcome any hurdles that is coming at you. Keep doing your thing don't let any Nay Sayers say any better and keep pushing yourself to the limit and I will believe that you keep growing. Thank you for all your hard work.
ayeeeee I appreciate that my man ♥ Thanks for the wholesome message and happy holidays my brotha
Jiim Ryan made ND do a GaaS instead of Factions 2 which was going to be on the disc like the first game. This is great news since ND can finally get some single player games out the gate, specifically that Sci-Fi game they have been working on since 20218 or 2019. There are tons of MP games that already exist and people on PS play those third party MP games more than Sony's first party MP games. Let Sony focus on what they do best. This is a win for them, gamers, gaming and us as customers. No more GaaS.
Before I go to work I have to say this probably is the most different video I think I've seen you make 🔥🔥🔥 but when are you going to give me the beat at the end of your videos it's too fire
They called me a madman when I said “ND a fall from grace is coming”!!!
In my opinion, Naughty Dog became straight trash when Amy left, Anita's feminist influence was really starting to show with Uncharted 4 and it just got worse after that. Companies will watch their product burn to the ground just for an ESG score.
Precisely.
100%.
What was in Uncharted 4.
It literally didn’t start with uncharted 4 people see one female capable of putting in work and they think it’s woke lol it started with the last of us part 2
@@pluntchgunster6156Nadine beating up Nathan Drake twice
Fantastic video, my friend! Love this style of video!
Couple fact checks:
70% of Naughty Dog did not leave. They lost 14 of 20 non senior designers after Uncharted 4.
70% would be closer to 350 people
Nothing wrong with remasters, they have always remastered their games to the next gen
There is a lot of mystery around Naughty Dog right now but they have clarified saying they arent showing games 4 years before release anymore because it creates that crunch culture
As for Factions 2. Cant argue its.a big misstep. But if they are being genuine that the scope of it would demand all their resources then arguably we have dodged a bullet in them turning into a Bungie or Rare
Lastly its been 3 years since they swept the GOTY awards. I am not sure why we are acting like this is some GTA6 style wait for their next game. Not even the usual halfway point of AAA development.
Id like some transparency on their next project but nothing to datr has me overly concerned they wont release anothrt masterpiece when they finish cooking as always
I like your edits! How are you doing all that? How are you gettung the clips? Im building my channel but still learning.
Keep editing. I been doing this for years. You find your own groove and style over time. There’s really no secret to it lol
@@TheGamer2323 im just talking like. How did you get clips you used throughout the video?
you just find clips or meme's that you like or think that's funny, download em and use them in your videos for later lol@@Resignedbc27
I hope im usung the right thing. Y2mate? Right? Are you getting tekken 8 too?
Great video brother, I think you have the talent for retrospective video game vids. Keep up the great work man!
Great video Gamer 👌👌👌
Couldn’t agree more 😢
That’s crazy, ppl hanging all their hopes on concept art 😂 made this man do a mini documentary.
That's what I'm thinking lol People need some h**s 😂
Man's trying to get his Patrick cc on lol
Naughty dog are still working on two brand new single player games at least. So it’s not as bad as ppl online make it seem like or these media outlets for clicks
I know that exact font. Gloss and Bloom 😂
ND really needs to just focus on making something fun and with good replay value. Maybe the new IP will bring that, and I hope it does cause it’ll be really sad if that fails
I disagree with your last point brotha. I don't think Naughty Dog tryna pick up the pieces of what they once were. They are trying to successfully complete an identity shift from what they once were. Neil is not interested in bringing back what made Naughty Dog the great studio that bought them the fame and fortune.
Neil is not interested in anything but himself and his opinion lol
Naughty Dog fell off 😭
Maybe Neil Druckmann gotta go, they gotta get someone new in there. I feel like maybe he's to blame for all this, lol
Wouldn’t make sense. Jim Ryan & Herman Hulst run PS not Neil.
Neil has made naughty dog so bad @@sparks3289
Amy uncharted 4 version also said u wouldn’t shoot a gun in the first 10 chapters too
Been waiting for what you got to say 😂
i was waiting for you to find out about this terrible news :(
Hehe are you a Bedtime Stories fan too? I thought I recognized that background music from somewhere:)
RIP you will be missed Naughty