To add Sony were the ones that told Bungie to oversee Factions 2. They have more experience than ND in terms of a live serice game which is the direction Sony wants for their games.
All the community wanted was an updated version of factions, with maybe a horde mode added in there. Sony, ND are trying to turn it into something it never was meant to be.
They said they will continue working other games in development. So it sound like they have multiple games in development other than TLOU multiplayer. Pretty sure they’re working on TLOU 3, and a new IP
With Neil Duckmann on his Tarantino phase I doubt we will get a Naughty Dog game this generation. Right now he's probably writing stuff for the HBO show
@@SuperSaiyan3985 I would love for Neil to be forced to move to only writing or fired. It's hard to wish that on someone but bro ruined TLOU franchise for majority of people and is just pushing his own personal agenda and idk why. We are the consumer give us what we want.
@@shira2151 I went from being a major fan of ND and to not wanting another game from them if Neil is tied to it. Last game had a horrible story. Hell its almost June and I’ve still not finished the show. They completely turned me away as a fan of this company/franchise.
Gaming in general has been spooky lately. 1. Games have been releasing broken lately with apologies coming soon after from the developers 2. Redfall was a major flop 3. Phil Spencer’s take on Xbox’s gaming direction was not well received 4. PlayStation State of Play was considered underwhelming by the general public 5. Last of Us factions is delayed yet again 6. People are arguing yet again about the graphical fidelity of Spider-Man We are overdue for a wave of good news and positive vibes in the gaming sphere, because right now it makes me just want to go back and play old games without all of these problems 😂
The broken game trend is a psychologically manipulative scheme to make gamers accept lazy, cheap games. There’s an unspoken agreement between developers to intentionally break their games to lower our standards. We’re now at the stage that we expect games to be broken, so when a developer makes a functional game, they receive unearned fake praise, despite how cheap and lazily mediocre it is.
Destiny 2 is the best live service game out right now. They’ve had record numbers of players year after year with every new expansion. Sony bought them specifically to add their expertise to the PS live service titles
Yup. Insomniac, whip it out so we can all bask in the glory of the Almighty Insomniac! The PlayStation Performer. The Savior of Sony. *HAIL INSOMNIAC!!!!*
Naughty Dog hasn't lived up to their reputation these past couple years. Insomniac still is the best and most versatile playstation developer. They carrying heavy right now.
Insomniac’s output this gen has been unmatched. That said, when Naughty Dog releases a game it’s a bigger deal comparatively. Naughty Dog’s polish and attention to detail is on another level imo
@@TheGamer2323 Man, it’s called great insight, and common sense lmao. Like, these game devs are now becoming more irritating to deal with fr. The incompetence of the higher ups are really destroying gaming now, we need to raise the pitch forks now.
That toxic woke environment is the reason why and part 2 expressed that. Heard it’s a very specific political group of people who are in control. Not me saying that, actual employees who left this place
I feel for you bro. Your passion and excitement for this game comes through on screen. From what I see on your channel when it comes to Sony first party titles they never let you down with quality. I agree with what you been saying recently that they definitely announced this one too soon. Hang in there bro.
@@FabledFiend where do you get 3 years try 10 and it’s still not getting better for them the worst game, PlayStation, showed at that showcase will better than Starfield will look
Sad part is that Factions is what can make Sony have that Exclusive multiplayer for themselves and make it the big game for the brand. I feel you can have a bigger audience with Factions than what they tried to do with Killzone.
They’re milking TLOU franchise with filler trash and that’s all there’s to it. I’m not desperate enough to pay them for this garbage. Naughty Dog can shove it.
They said when they purchased bungie part of their responsibility was to oversee and review all of sony’s live service games since they are experienced with destiny. So basically they looked at factions and said it was dogshit
Don't understand how they trying to turn Factions into this long engagement game like destiny. They want to bring in loot? Raids? Legendary weapons? etc. into Factions. We just wanted part 2 tdm, interrogation, more maps
Yeah, and what about the servers?. You think that money comes from trees. A game like the one they are making no one has attempted before so yeah why do they get the harsh comments when literally everyone else is doing it and still enjoying some of those games even today.
Well, Bungie was contracted by Sony to have their live service division oversee all Sony live service games so this does sound about right, though it does seem from their wording in the post that factions was drawn back into reproduction. Although I hope the live service rollout was the only thing they walked back, this doesn't seem likely.
I don’t expect anything anymore, maybe I’m just old. Console/PC gaming has reached its limits. The first company to pull off VR in an immersive COUCH experience that allows seamless and realistic gameplay will bring back that E3 feeling. Hopefully in the next 15 years.
“Imo” PlayStation been completely destroying the game in terms of story/single player experience for years and it’s just getting better and better. But for the past (I would say nearly a decade), multiplayer has been a major let down. I don’t even play multiplayer anymore. We really needed this from Naughty Dog 😑.
Money, Broken Launch Games (except Zelda totk), Fake Promises, Battle Royale, Bugs, No Passion, Games not being worth the 70$ (for the most part), No new ideas, subscription services, companies not carrying about quality and fans. Now that's what I called *modern gaming*
If Bungie said Factions looked like Buns, it was probably CHEEKS. Yall think Neil is still messing with games, he is hanging with the Directors at HBO, eating sushi. LOL
@TheGamer2323 im just saying Sony doesn't have that many in-house studios left that still produce quality multiplayers outside of Bungie. Who is next, Media Molecule co-op and MLB the Show multiplayer devs 😂. So i will respect Bungie because Destiny is still enjoyable with a decent community. The days of quality games produced in the past are damn near done. The veteran devs that produced quality are either retired or developing indie passion projects. Now we have studios producing copy and paste filler games (ie. Ubisoft). The only dev in my opinion producing quality/fresh games is Hazelight Studios who developed It Takes Two. You can tell they have passion for quality development. Devs now continue to think of how can we create games bigger and shinier than producing something fun
At this point the gaming industry will never be the same ever again, since live service has been implemented in majority of games made today, money is the biggest factor is making games today. It’s no longer about passion and genuine love to create. We’re in a new era of games
But every studio Sony owns loves making true gaming. All of sudden, one tries to make an online game and gets thrown in with the trash. What a great fanbase.
@@GForceIntel true SP games yes but multiplayer no sony is pushing live services and you could see this in their new showcase games cant be traditional no more i bet you if ghost of tsushima legends 2 was to come out now it will be live service because its all about the money... multiplayer have no love anymore they are just out to gouge every cent out of customer
This is all too common these days! But the games get more expensive at the same time, plus they will throw in shitty ass frame rates and bugs for you too!
Bungie are literally PROS when it comes to live service games, thats why Sony bought them. Say what you want about Destiny 2, but that game is fully alive every single year because of the content. If Bungie says that factions is not good enough for a live service game, I believe them but who knows, I hope i’m wrong.
As expected. ND is a fucking joke now. All we wanted was a traditional multiplayer experience like the first one. Nobody asked for a standalone live service game. They're no longer elite. Insomniac and Santa Monica easily clear them now especially as long as that cuck Neil Druckmann is around.
Maybe they should’ve focused their efforts on developing Factions II and releasing it for the masses rather than putting out a remake that no one asked for!! At this rate, we’ll prolly get a director’s cut of Part II before we see anything Factions II related. 😂
The remaking being made by them it's a joke. They could have gotten some rando team to make it. They're using TLOU remakes to account for the fact they a poorly run studio.
That was a San Diego studio who thought they could remake a game. When Sony reviewed the game they closed down the team and forced ND on that project they didn't want to make. This Sony management is terrible
Y’all be saying anything. Insomniac made the first ps2 game I ever bought but even I’m not gonna say they games be up to the level of uncharted and last of us….
I haven't played a second of Destiny,but isn't it one of the most played games right now?It's always top 10 most played games on steam and im sure it's pretty popular on consoles too.
The irony of factions is when the game came out Neil Druckmann, naughty dog and Sony was so focused on the story, that they got lost and forgot about faction
It was mostly Neil lol, dude spent 5+ years to resurrect his teenage melodrama that was already rejected by Bruce Straley during the TLOU1’s development. His bs vanity project is most likely one of the biggest reasons as to why factions wasn’t included with TLOU2 day 1
Bungie is overseeing all of these live service games and they came in and did an assessment for Last of Us factions and it looks like that assessment either said this will be too expensive to maintain or something about it just isn't up to par for a service game. Bungie isn't actually working with naughty dog.
I'd go with the latter. Although I'm confused as to why Gamer is confused that Bungie is giving the assessment. He seems to be completely unaware that Destiny 2 is one if not the most successful live service game to date. It's been in the top 10 for years.
Then why the hell does it even need to be live service if they don’t know how to go about it? Factions 1 wasnt live service. That just goes into another problem that’s going on in the industry with every multiplayer game trying to be a live service game and sucking every cent they can out of you 😂😂 junk is tiring as all hell
@@TheGamer2323 I say release it as a non service game with story elements like we've been that to believe. If they release a game that's good but can't be monetized people will buy it. They could always release an expansion with live service elements later. Chasing these live service games can definitely become a problem. If all these other rumored single-player games are as close to being completed as these credible leakers have suggested, things aren't all gloom and doom. The problem is that this has affected a multiplayer game that we all have fond memories of and would like to see released. Speaking of these single player games that are close to being completed. It's b******* if they withheld them from the Showcase. Unless they pull some miracle two showcases in a year, Jim Ryan is more than just FN up right now. He's FN up the future.
@@dripfoe_3307 its successful but its a money hungry, bloated, & painfully boring yet addictive mess that feels so god damn good to play. none of those things were factions except being addictive & feeling good to play 😂. bungie doesnt need to be giving naughty dog any advice after destiny imo lol
@@Sticks_of_Truth this is why multiplayer is dying people dont wanna pay for mp's coz of things like fortnite but companies need to make money so they do live service but the game itself is grounded therefore it cant be liveservice like a destiny or any other game they showed at the showcase. ND are stuck releasing a factions in this day and age because factions is a product of its time traditional multiplayers cant exist now because companies wont let it.
Naughty Dog will put the game out when it’s ready. Until we hear an “it’s cancelled” announcement, we shouldn’t assume anything. They’re not going to show the game or reveal anything until it’s closer to launch to avoid crunch.
Respectfully, I feel like this video is way off base even though some valid points were made. While it's up to you regarding how you operate your channel, I think we need to be better. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong: 1. I can understand not liking TLOU2 story or the HBO show (which I had low expectations for) but I genuinely feel like a lot of people (you included Gamer) seem to be uncomfortable and bothered by those products and the beliefs of Naughty Dog. I'm apolitical but even if I was a conservative (not saying the people in question are to be fair), I can't imagine taking it that seriously. 2. Naughty Dog since the launch of the PS5 has definitely been disappointing, but until a new game comes out, it's premature to say they fell off. The Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy "remasters" hardly improved upon the PS4 versions and TLOU1 remake is overpriced and arguably wasn't needed. This ties into the first point. It also seems like a lot of people bought into the flak that ND caught and all I have to say about that is Jason Schreier knows what actually went down and I think Mitch Dyer admitted some stuff also. 3. People can say what they want about Destiny and the Bungie of today, but Bungie is literally among the best regarding operating a live service. Destiny makes money and is active. Naughty Dog is a top-tier developer but they've never made a live service before, and their only quality multiplayer games were Uncharted 2 multiplayer and The Last of Us. I don't play Destiny but we need to be fair. For all I know, the game could've been quality still but wouldn't be financially lucrative enough especially long-term, whether it wouldn't work out well enough monetizing it, it's too niche, or it lacks "replayability". 4. I'll see y'all when ND's next game drop lol.
Yeah lol. That's because they want to make bigger open World games with 4k 120 frames per sec now if possible lol. You don't need all that garbage all the time. They want to make it like 20-100 hours long. You don't need to make every game like that. You can make games 2-3 hours long like you did back in the day & make those games top quality. It's easier to do that because you would have less content to work with since the games are short.
@@avery.a5948 Games were $80-100 back in the 90's for 2 hour games or even lesser time played. Anyways that wasn't the point I am trying to make. If the games are like 2 hours then have them sell at $30 or lesser. The point I am making is that you don't need 100 hours in game time for a single player game. 2-3 hours is plenty.
@@tonyp9313true but most of the best games that have release in this past 4-5 years were those 80-100 "open world" games, so there really not "garbage" as you said in your comment
I gotta say, tlou2 is your personal opinion, outside of that how many times has naughty dog screwed up? I count twice, factions 2 and tlou remake, idk why people are acting like naughty dog isnt one of the most dependable studios, stop overreacting, it sucks yes but don't condemn ALREADY like damn
Exactly. Even if Naughty Dog's games weren't my cup of tea or if I wasn't a fan, I in my right mind can't say they're not a top-tier developer even if they've been disappointing as of late. By that logic, every developer is automatically amazing after doing one thing right and then they're automatically trash after screwing up. Like can we be for real?
All that Xbox slander y’all were doing came back to bite y’all in the ass 😂😂. The gaming Gods said “nah let’s humble these ponies right quick this week…”
Goddamnit Gamer you almost gave me a heart attack. I'll believe it whenever I see it, but as long as I know it's in development, I'm fine. TLOU factions is honestly the best 3rd person online shooter and I'd even argue best multiplayer shooter. Factions 2 will be a wett dream
It personally doesn't bother me personally i don't like multiplayer online co op or live service games. But i hope there next single player only game is last of us 3 only on ps5.
I really wish they would have made Factions 2 similar to the 1st one with just a few changes in mechanics, more maps, new weapons, new executions, and new game modes
From what ive read it seems Bungie caused them to reassess the project because the thought it wouldnt be able to keep players engaged for a long period of time…so hell if its bungie we are talking about then im all for it, look at Destiny 2’s views on twitch that game has and keeps thousands of viewers for a long ass time, they can take more time if they need, if they can keep us playing for years to come then hell yeah let them cook.
Destiny is nowhere near as big as it should have been. It has a dedicated community yes, but a lot of people have long ago moved on. And on the other hand destiny at this point is known way more for PVE than PVP. Nobody really cares about destiny on a competitive level which is what factions is. Why the hell factions NEED to be a live service game anyways??
@@TheGamer2323 Why are you so slow. Destiny is literally number 1 most successful live service games to date. Ppl leave, then come back or new ppl join. Two, factions isn't just gonna be pvp, it's going to be both pve and pvp......like how are you not aware of this. Jeremy pls just educate yourself before you go on here and say outright foolishness. And I'm not even a Destiny guy, played it 4 for 10 minutes and dubbed it but you not knowing these basic things is weird.
@@TheGamer2323 Oh no I heard you, it was just idiotic. Asking why Bungie should be the judge of a live service game is like asking why Rockstar should be the judge of open world games, just stupid.
This is insane. So why are we even paying to pay online if sony isnt giving us a reason to even buy their ps plus? They have no multiplayer games. Also, they ripped us off took out the mp of last of us 2 & for the "remake" gamers keep getting ripped off
GTA 6 will come out before Factions.
no lies told
@@TheGamer2323 better it be delayed than looking like Cyberpunk2077 & Redfall 😂 now that's a fall 😂
As crazy as that sounds, there's a good chance that's the case.
18:09 😂😂😂
Homies, We are going to be playing Resident Evil 5 and Max Payne remakes before Factions. . .🤷♂
So in other words Naugthydog said, "please understand"😂
Meanwhile the fighting game community been eating GOOD 😂
Fighting games been the best thing if you're looking for a good multiplayer experience
Me😎🔥
I mean come on..Street Fighter 6, MK1 and Tekken 8 back to back...let's gooooo 😎🔥
Don’t worry guys foamstars will revive the multiplayer genre 😢
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Bro said foamstars 😂
💀💀💀
@@TheGamer2323 LoL 🤣
I mean....imagine if it's actually 🔥
To add Sony were the ones that told Bungie to oversee Factions 2. They have more experience than ND in terms of a live serice game which is the direction Sony wants for their games.
I've been hearing that too.
Basically Bungie looked at the game and basically said that the game would not keep players engaged for long. Idk how Naughty Dog keeps messing up.
Imagine pulling up beside a tied up Neil Druckmann on the back of Jeremy's electric bike. 🤣
All the community wanted was an updated version of factions, with maybe a horde mode added in there. Sony, ND are trying to turn it into something it never was meant to be.
Cause it’s all about money. Hard to squeeze micro transactions into a game like that lol
Actually the community wanted a good sequel
They tried to damage control with that statement throwing the "btw we're working on a new SP game" which they already had told us lol
100% lol
They really just went aaah fuck it we'll have to do a TLOU 3 😂
They said they will continue working other games in development. So it sound like they have multiple games in development other than TLOU multiplayer. Pretty sure they’re working on TLOU 3, and a new IP
With Neil Duckmann on his Tarantino phase I doubt we will get a Naughty Dog game this generation. Right now he's probably writing stuff for the HBO show
Sony should remove him from ND n let him be a show writer full time
Yo lowkey tho 😂 man probably ain’t even thinking bout no factions at this point
@@SuperSaiyan3985 I would love for Neil to be forced to move to only writing or fired. It's hard to wish that on someone but bro ruined TLOU franchise for majority of people and is just pushing his own personal agenda and idk why. We are the consumer give us what we want.
Neil Cuckmann*
@@shira2151 I went from being a major fan of ND and to not wanting another game from them if Neil is tied to it. Last game had a horrible story.
Hell its almost June and I’ve still not finished the show. They completely turned me away as a fan of this company/franchise.
19:00 fromsoftware has been releasing banger after banger at least once every 2/3 years since 2009
Japanese studios were, are and forever will be the kings of this shit.
monolith soft too
@@iangarcia1585 yeah but their games are alot more niche
Gaming in general has been spooky lately.
1. Games have been releasing broken lately with apologies coming soon after from the developers
2. Redfall was a major flop
3. Phil Spencer’s take on Xbox’s gaming direction was not well received
4. PlayStation State of Play was considered underwhelming by the general public
5. Last of Us factions is delayed yet again
6. People are arguing yet again about the graphical fidelity of Spider-Man
We are overdue for a wave of good news and positive vibes in the gaming sphere, because right now it makes me just want to go back and play old games without all of these problems 😂
The biggest issue to me is 6. Literally one of the few bright spots of gaming right now and people are *STILL* finding something to complain about
its been like this for years
@@TheGamer2323 yeah all the complaining about that is weird
The broken game trend is a psychologically manipulative scheme to make gamers accept
lazy, cheap games. There’s an unspoken agreement between developers to intentionally break their games to lower our standards. We’re now at the stage that we expect games to be broken, so when a developer makes a functional game, they receive unearned fake praise, despite how cheap and lazily mediocre it is.
All facts 💯 Just a bombardment of bad news and negativity in what is still something of a strong year for gaming.
That classic "it's not you, it's us" statement.
I know I've heard that one before 😂
Now u know how overwatch fans feel about pve being canceled
Destiny 2 is the best live service game out right now. They’ve had record numbers of players year after year with every new expansion. Sony bought them specifically to add their expertise to the PS live service titles
People keep getting bamboozled by these companies. I swear these apologies are becoming more common to the point where it is the standard LOL
If you were Naughty dog what would you do? I'm eager to hear your response.
@@GForceIntel fire Neil Druckmann
At this point.
All i gotta say is this...
*Save us Insomniac Games.*
Yup. Insomniac, whip it out so we can all bask in the glory of the Almighty Insomniac! The PlayStation Performer. The Savior of Sony. *HAIL INSOMNIAC!!!!*
Naughty Dog hasn't lived up to their reputation these past couple years.
Insomniac still is the best and most versatile playstation developer. They carrying heavy right now.
I BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS NOW!!!
Insomniac’s output this gen has been unmatched. That said, when Naughty Dog releases a game it’s a bigger deal comparatively. Naughty Dog’s polish and attention to detail is on another level imo
don't worry they're working on the re-re-re-re-release of the ultimate ultra super definitive TLOU
😂
Thecurse2323 has the greatest comedic value everytime 😂
Suckas rather blame me for cursing these games than blame the damn devs. Thanos was right
@@TheGamer2323 i swear these devs watching you and plotting against you 🤣
I'm ashamed to what I'm about to say but......
*The Matrix is real*
@@TheGamer2323 Man, it’s called great insight, and common sense lmao. Like, these game devs are now becoming more irritating to deal with fr. The incompetence of the higher ups are really destroying gaming now, we need to raise the pitch forks now.
They finding a way to monetize this damn game.
yeah I gotta buddy named erick that filled me in the other day
This is 100% a money issue not a gameplay issue imo. Look at ND job openings. They need a Finance Director and a Finance Manager.
oh shit fr? I wonder if they're operating above their means.
Y’all suckas hiring?
That toxic woke environment is the reason why and part 2 expressed that. Heard it’s a very specific political group of people who are in control. Not me saying that, actual employees who left this place
When I seen that was a real tweet ts pissed me off so bad
I feel for you bro. Your passion and excitement for this game comes through on screen. From what I see on your channel when it comes to Sony first party titles they never let you down with quality. I agree with what you been saying recently that they definitely announced this one too soon. Hang in there bro.
It’s been a rough week for ponies 😅
Meanwhile xbots not even thinking about xbox lol
Good thing I been a nintendo stan all these years.
*PHEW!*
Xbox fanboys have had it rough for 3 years....
Lol if this is tough for Ponies what the hell is Xbots going thru?
@@FabledFiend where do you get 3 years try 10 and it’s still not getting better for them the worst game, PlayStation, showed at that showcase will better than Starfield will look
Sad part is that Factions is what can make Sony have that Exclusive multiplayer for themselves and make it the big game for the brand. I feel you can have a bigger audience with Factions than what they tried to do with Killzone.
Saddest part is that they act like they don't know what we want, and completely ignore what the community has consistently said. Smh
Literally we all would have been fine with copy and paste factions into TLoU2 with the updated gameplay and they couldn’t even do that 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@DomGeez12357 Exactly. It's crazy.
They’re milking TLOU franchise with filler trash and that’s all there’s to it. I’m not desperate enough to pay them for this garbage. Naughty Dog can shove it.
@@HULK-HOGAN1 I don't blame you. I didn't play the 1st one until it was on playstation hits. Lol
They said when they purchased bungie part of their responsibility was to oversee and review all of sony’s live service games since they are experienced with destiny. So basically they looked at factions and said it was dogshit
Thank you. Mofo's blowing this out of proportion lol.
LMAOOOOO
Don't understand how they trying to turn Factions into this long engagement game like destiny. They want to bring in loot? Raids? Legendary weapons? etc. into Factions. We just wanted part 2 tdm, interrogation, more maps
Yeah, and what about the servers?. You think that money comes from trees. A game like the one they are making no one has attempted before so yeah why do they get the harsh comments when literally everyone else is doing it and still enjoying some of those games even today.
The only multiplayer I was waiting for. Looks like I’m not waiting for it no more.
"I'm going straight to that multiplayer"
Well, Bungie was contracted by Sony to have their live service division oversee all Sony live service games so this does sound about right, though it does seem from their wording in the post that factions was drawn back into reproduction. Although I hope the live service rollout was the only thing they walked back, this doesn't seem likely.
And just like that Factions is cancelled.
I was waiting for this. Naughty dog got BG writing hella paragraphs ranting lmaoooo.
This is the gta 6 of naughty dog
Kingdom Hearts 5 will release before factions
Factions 2 is Naughty Dog's GTA 6. Its never coming out lmao
when hasnt a GTA not come out?
@@davidd4696 If you're too slow to understand my comment then I cant help you........
@@thechosenone2123 when has rock-star not dropped a gta game?
@@davidd4696 Again, you're too slow to understand............
Bro , he means it takes for ever to come out .@@davidd4696
This along with that Mid showcase. Bad week for us PS5 owners
mid showcase? it wasnt bad at all
@@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniemit was hypebeast 💀
facts
@@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem it was mid . Be real
Bungie apparently has been the judge and all of PS live service games here recently behind the scenes
"It better not be TLoU3".
0_O
"WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOUUUUUUUU" 😂😂
I don’t expect anything anymore, maybe I’m just old. Console/PC gaming has reached its limits. The first company to pull off VR in an immersive COUCH experience that allows seamless and realistic gameplay will bring back that E3 feeling. Hopefully in the next 15 years.
I can see that.
“Imo” PlayStation been completely destroying the game in terms of story/single player experience for years and it’s just getting better and better. But for the past (I would say nearly a decade), multiplayer has been a major let down. I don’t even play multiplayer anymore. We really needed this from Naughty Dog 😑.
Damn brother sony took huge L's all this week back tk back 😮. Holy 😂.
What is happening in the gaming industry ?
Money.
They care more about making fortnite money than making fun games
They want live service games
Microtransactions , unfinished games and $70 price tags.
Money, Broken Launch Games (except Zelda totk), Fake Promises, Battle Royale, Bugs, No Passion, Games not being worth the 70$ (for the most part), No new ideas, subscription services, companies not carrying about quality and fans. Now that's what I called *modern gaming*
If Bungie said Factions looked like Buns, it was probably CHEEKS. Yall think Neil is still messing with games, he is hanging with the Directors at HBO, eating sushi. LOL
WHO THE HELL IS BUNGIE TODAY TO JUDGE NAUGHTY DOG?? 🤔🤔 This ain't the Bungie of old, this is MODERN DAY BUNGIE
@TheGamer2323 im just saying Sony doesn't have that many in-house studios left that still produce quality multiplayers outside of Bungie. Who is next, Media Molecule co-op and MLB the Show multiplayer devs 😂. So i will respect Bungie because Destiny is still enjoyable with a decent community. The days of quality games produced in the past are damn near done. The veteran devs that produced quality are either retired or developing indie passion projects. Now we have studios producing copy and paste filler games (ie. Ubisoft). The only dev in my opinion producing quality/fresh games is Hazelight Studios who developed It Takes Two. You can tell they have passion for quality development. Devs now continue to think of how can we create games bigger and shinier than producing something fun
@@TheGamer2323 I mean they fell off apparently so idk why Bungie judging them would be a problem if that's the case.
Just be ready with that NaughtyDog apology video when this game finally shows itself bruh lol
At this point the gaming industry will never be the same ever again, since live service has been implemented in majority of games made today, money is the biggest factor is making games today. It’s no longer about passion and genuine love to create. We’re in a new era of games
But every studio Sony owns loves making true gaming. All of sudden, one tries to make an online game and gets thrown in with the trash. What a great fanbase.
@@GForceIntel true SP games yes but multiplayer no sony is pushing live services and you could see this in their new showcase games cant be traditional no more i bet you if ghost of tsushima legends 2 was to come out now it will be live service because its all about the money... multiplayer have no love anymore they are just out to gouge every cent out of customer
Not for single players, we have been getting heat for those types of games, multiplayer shooter games on the other hand...............yikes lol
Yeah, sad 😭.
Lmaoooo 15:35 The disgust after naming Fortnite, Apex & Valorant looool “You can get on Rainbow Six Siege, Gamer❗️” 😂😂😂
This is all too common these days! But the games get more expensive at the same time, plus they will throw in shitty ass frame rates and bugs for you too!
"Anotha day anotha delay"
Bungie are literally PROS when it comes to live service games, thats why Sony bought them. Say what you want about Destiny 2, but that game is fully alive every single year because of the content. If Bungie says that factions is not good enough for a live service game, I believe them but who knows, I hope i’m wrong.
Welp..... Factions 2 is cancelled. 😢
He called it lol
As expected. ND is a fucking joke now. All we wanted was a traditional multiplayer experience like the first one. Nobody asked for a standalone live service game. They're no longer elite. Insomniac and Santa Monica easily clear them now especially as long as that cuck Neil Druckmann is around.
As soon as I heard the news I knew you had to make a video. NGL yesterday was a terrible day for me, this only made it worse 😂
Maybe they should’ve focused their efforts on developing Factions II and releasing it for the masses rather than putting out a remake that no one asked for!! At this rate, we’ll prolly get a director’s cut of Part II before we see anything Factions II related. 😂
The remaking being made by them it's a joke. They could have gotten some rando team to make it. They're using TLOU remakes to account for the fact they a poorly run studio.
That was a San Diego studio who thought they could remake a game. When Sony reviewed the game they closed down the team and forced ND on that project they didn't want to make. This Sony management is terrible
? They did not want to do a remake though that was Sony, and even then it was a success because of the show.
To be fair. The remake was originally being made by Visual Arts Service Group before Naughty Dog took over. Jason Schreier reported this.
@@practiceyourart They had a problem with crunch and as of recently, ambition and communication. Relax lol.
They enjoying life off that last of us 2 and remake money. After they blow that, then they going to be like ok time to make so more money now.
Insomniac is the new naughty dog fr
Facts. I've been saying this too!
Bro they make third person action adventure games… that’s not so groundbreaking.. capcom nailed this in 2005
@@birdmanfancy9627 find the same quality somewhere else
Y’all be saying anything. Insomniac made the first ps2 game I ever bought but even I’m not gonna say they games be up to the level of uncharted and last of us….
lol no, they are not at the same level at all
I haven't played a second of Destiny,but isn't it one of the most played games right now?It's always top 10 most played games on steam and im sure it's pretty popular on consoles too.
You're correct. Just last in the last week they were hitting concurrent player counts of nearly 200k players on Steam alone.
@@KhaosN7 Yeah,it was a bit of a rhetorical question.I guess the game just doesn't receive a lot of love around here
The irony of factions is when the game came out Neil Druckmann, naughty dog and Sony was so focused on the story, that they got lost and forgot about faction
It was mostly Neil lol, dude spent 5+ years to resurrect his teenage melodrama that was already rejected by Bruce Straley during the TLOU1’s development. His bs vanity project is most likely one of the biggest reasons as to why factions wasn’t included with TLOU2 day 1
Bungie said it was trash lol
Bungie is overseeing all of these live service games and they came in and did an assessment for Last of Us factions and it looks like that assessment either said this will be too expensive to maintain or something about it just isn't up to par for a service game. Bungie isn't actually working with naughty dog.
I'd go with the latter. Although I'm confused as to why Gamer is confused that Bungie is giving the assessment. He seems to be completely unaware that Destiny 2 is one if not the most successful live service game to date. It's been in the top 10 for years.
Then why the hell does it even need to be live service if they don’t know how to go about it? Factions 1 wasnt live service. That just goes into another problem that’s going on in the industry with every multiplayer game trying to be a live service game and sucking every cent they can out of you 😂😂 junk is tiring as all hell
@@TheGamer2323
I say release it as a non service game with story elements like we've been that to believe. If they release a game that's good but can't be monetized people will buy it. They could always release an expansion with live service elements later. Chasing these live service games can definitely become a problem. If all these other rumored single-player games are as close to being completed as these credible leakers have suggested, things aren't all gloom and doom. The problem is that this has affected a multiplayer game that we all have fond memories of and would like to see released. Speaking of these single player games that are close to being completed. It's b******* if they withheld them from the Showcase. Unless they pull some miracle two showcases in a year, Jim Ryan is more than just FN up right now. He's FN up the future.
@@dripfoe_3307 its successful but its a money hungry, bloated, & painfully boring yet addictive mess that feels so god damn good to play. none of those things were factions except being addictive & feeling good to play 😂. bungie doesnt need to be giving naughty dog any advice after destiny imo lol
@@Sticks_of_Truth this is why multiplayer is dying people dont wanna pay for mp's coz of things like fortnite but companies need to make money so they do live service but the game itself is grounded therefore it cant be liveservice like a destiny or any other game they showed at the showcase.
ND are stuck releasing a factions in this day and age because factions is a product of its time traditional multiplayers cant exist now because companies wont let it.
Didn’t I call it?……NAUGHTY DOG: A FALL FROM GRACE☝🏾
I mean it’s not a call from grace they really just make single player games.
@@angelgomez7081 They’ve made multiplayer modes for U2-U4 and Lou1
@@geronimo1595 Jak X: Combat Racing and Crash Team Racing also had multiplayer.
@@angelgomez7081 COPE🥱
“Id sail into the sunset and start a family” bro had me dead
At this point its save to say that factions 2 will be similar to the Division 1/2. With a shared world, Clans, Open world and so on.
The folks over at nintendo is looking at sony and Microsoft laughing
😂😂😂
FACTIONS WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY
Every time a live service game dies gamers win.
I see nothing wrong with Sony using Bungie's expertise with live service games.
Naughty Dog will put the game out when it’s ready. Until we hear an “it’s cancelled” announcement, we shouldn’t assume anything. They’re not going to show the game or reveal anything until it’s closer to launch to avoid crunch.
Timing is also a factor. Last week overwatch canned their pve mode not factions
Respectfully, I feel like this video is way off base even though some valid points were made. While it's up to you regarding how you operate your channel, I think we need to be better. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong:
1. I can understand not liking TLOU2 story or the HBO show (which I had low expectations for) but I genuinely feel like a lot of people (you included Gamer) seem to be uncomfortable and bothered by those products and the beliefs of Naughty Dog. I'm apolitical but even if I was a conservative (not saying the people in question are to be fair), I can't imagine taking it that seriously.
2. Naughty Dog since the launch of the PS5 has definitely been disappointing, but until a new game comes out, it's premature to say they fell off. The Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy "remasters" hardly improved upon the PS4 versions and TLOU1 remake is overpriced and arguably wasn't needed. This ties into the first point. It also seems like a lot of people bought into the flak that ND caught and all I have to say about that is Jason Schreier knows what actually went down and I think Mitch Dyer admitted some stuff also.
3. People can say what they want about Destiny and the Bungie of today, but Bungie is literally among the best regarding operating a live service. Destiny makes money and is active. Naughty Dog is a top-tier developer but they've never made a live service before, and their only quality multiplayer games were Uncharted 2 multiplayer and The Last of Us. I don't play Destiny but we need to be fair. For all I know, the game could've been quality still but wouldn't be financially lucrative enough especially long-term, whether it wouldn't work out well enough monetizing it, it's too niche, or it lacks "replayability".
4. I'll see y'all when ND's next game drop lol.
bro I'm talking about a multiplayer mode and you talking about politics & beliefs.....
@@TheGamer2323 🤣🤣
@@TheGamer2323 not once did you mention politics.. seems like this mf works for ND
Bungie also shut down that Deviation studio MP game too …
At this point they can keep it
Crazy how quality games take 5-7 years to make in 2023
Yeah lol. That's because they want to make bigger open World games with 4k 120 frames per sec now if possible lol. You don't need all that garbage all the time. They want to make it like 20-100 hours long. You don't need to make every game like that. You can make games 2-3 hours long like you did back in the day & make those games top quality. It's easier to do that because you would have less content to work with since the games are short.
@@tonyp9313 $70 for a 2 hour game is ridiculous 😭
@@avery.a5948 Games were $80-100 back in the 90's for 2 hour games or even lesser time played. Anyways that wasn't the point I am trying to make. If the games are like 2 hours then have them sell at $30 or lesser.
The point I am making is that you don't need 100 hours in game time for a single player game. 2-3 hours is plenty.
And quality is no longer a guarantee either after all that development time.
@@tonyp9313true but most of the best games that have release in this past 4-5 years were those 80-100 "open world" games, so there really not "garbage" as you said in your comment
I gotta say, tlou2 is your personal opinion, outside of that how many times has naughty dog screwed up? I count twice, factions 2 and tlou remake, idk why people are acting like naughty dog isnt one of the most dependable studios, stop overreacting, it sucks yes but don't condemn ALREADY like damn
Exactly. Even if Naughty Dog's games weren't my cup of tea or if I wasn't a fan, I in my right mind can't say they're not a top-tier developer even if they've been disappointing as of late. By that logic, every developer is automatically amazing after doing one thing right and then they're automatically trash after screwing up. Like can we be for real?
All that Xbox slander y’all were doing came back to bite y’all in the ass 😂😂. The gaming Gods said “nah let’s humble these ponies right quick this week…”
Naaah all these companies are taking Ls 😂 and the Sony fans need to be honest about this to.
lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
PlayStation should be called the L Station at this point. 😂 Talk about getting humbled quickly. 😂
@@BossShawnBeats but who has the better games though🤷🏾♂️ answer that
Hopefully that xbox showcase is a solid one.
You need more subs bro. Your shits hilarious
No bs insomniac Carrying I didn’t even know they made that ratchet & clank that came out 😂😂
They’re carrying right now yup
Have you tried that Hunt Showdown game? It's supposed to be really addicting
Can they at least fix OG Factions?
You can’t expect everything.
Goddamnit Gamer you almost gave me a heart attack.
I'll believe it whenever I see it, but as long as I know it's in development, I'm fine.
TLOU factions is honestly the best 3rd person online shooter and I'd even argue best multiplayer shooter.
Factions 2 will be a wett dream
Fuck outta here, doesn’t even come close to the division 1 let alone 2
@@SuperSaiyan3985if it doesn’t we should riot bungie ain’t made shit
It personally doesn't bother me personally i don't like multiplayer online co op or live service games. But i hope there next single player only game is last of us 3 only on ps5.
Dont even worry bout that single player experience that “experience” 4+years away my brotha
You spitting facts about mp games being stale, my homies be talking about old ass games I’m really not tryna play 💀💀💀
Junk is *TRASH* bro 😩😩
Gamer2323 training just in case someone calls his ass as out lol
Neil was too busy in the Strawberry Fields
“They been doing something that i dont like”
Its Neil Cuckmann im telling you he took over
I'm not holding my breath for Factions.
i agree with what u said about insomniac.. insomniac is currently the goats... after that i would prob say santa monica and rockstar
I really wish they would have made Factions 2 similar to the 1st one with just a few changes in mechanics, more maps, new weapons, new executions, and new game modes
First half of 2023 seems to be peak gaming
From what ive read it seems Bungie caused them to reassess the project because the thought it wouldnt be able to keep players engaged for a long period of time…so hell if its bungie we are talking about then im all for it, look at Destiny 2’s views on twitch that game has and keeps thousands of viewers for a long ass time, they can take more time if they need, if they can keep us playing for years to come then hell yeah let them cook.
Destiny is nowhere near as big as it should have been. It has a dedicated community yes, but a lot of people have long ago moved on. And on the other hand destiny at this point is known way more for PVE than PVP. Nobody really cares about destiny on a competitive level which is what factions is. Why the hell factions NEED to be a live service game anyways??
@@TheGamer2323 Why are you so slow. Destiny is literally number 1 most successful live service games to date. Ppl leave, then come back or new ppl join. Two, factions isn't just gonna be pvp, it's going to be both pve and pvp......like how are you not aware of this. Jeremy pls just educate yourself before you go on here and say outright foolishness. And I'm not even a Destiny guy, played it 4 for 10 minutes and dubbed it but you not knowing these basic things is weird.
@@dripfoe_3307everything I said went in one ear out the other. Have a good weekend
@@TheGamer2323 Oh no I heard you, it was just idiotic. Asking why Bungie should be the judge of a live service game is like asking why Rockstar should be the judge of open world games, just stupid.
I feel like something is up with naughty dog behind the scenes bc their management seems to be a mess.
Nah your segways on these intros are golden man 😂
That totk saved gaming for me dawg…
That game is dead ass carrying 2023 gaming rn, it's not even a joke
This is insane. So why are we even paying to pay online if sony isnt giving us a reason to even buy their ps plus? They have no multiplayer games. Also, they ripped us off took out the mp of last of us 2 & for the "remake" gamers keep getting ripped off
That algorithm picking up I see! 🔥
Playstation acquired bungie not only to make games but manage live service games from other studios and help them along the way.
At least you have the last of us remastered multiplayer to hop into...