SeerV7.1 vs. TRK + NWPO

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  • @connor12568
    @connor12568 3 місяці тому +109

    Oh hey, it's Ultrawide! Love the seer gameplay!! You're doing amazing work :)

  • @westisthewaytogo
    @westisthewaytogo 3 місяці тому +24

    Truly remarkable work. What you’re doing will change the game forever. You’ve already made so much progress and I cannot wait to see what you have in store for the future!

    • @edgeribble
      @edgeribble 3 місяці тому +3

      I think Seer will find the skill ceiling in the next 5 years. It will come to the point that everytime a useful new mechs is discovered, Seer leans it in a day or 2 and is just unbeatable

    • @darylsteenkamp
      @darylsteenkamp 2 місяці тому +1

      @@westisthewaytogo these bots might soon give us a glimpse at what high level RL games could/should look like. Might just bring to light other mechanics/strats we haven't even thought of yet.

  • @dr_redbanRL
    @dr_redbanRL 3 місяці тому +15

    Man I thought I was dreaming I saw this match, checked Johnny and Feers channels and couldn't find it, then this popped up in my feed. Subscribed! Love this bot man

  • @tingledinkle
    @tingledinkle 3 місяці тому +29

    Man I love these, keep them coming!

    • @tingledinkle
      @tingledinkle 3 місяці тому +1

      Also the fact that they did so good against a consistently annoyingly strong beast like Seer is really impressive

    • @UltrawideGC
      @UltrawideGC  3 місяці тому +2

      I will try

  • @TheExtraInch
    @TheExtraInch 3 місяці тому +20

    This is my fav RL content right now, please keep getting commentators.

  • @crashhouseforever
    @crashhouseforever 3 місяці тому +6

    when I was young in high school, I had a group of friends who’s humor was to basically say the most horrendous things you could think of. They didn’t believe what they were saying, but were still extremely immature. the point is none of them were actually racist, sexist, or homophobic. They just wanted to say terrible things for a laugh. I think nwpo is a young immature kid who is just learning that you can say terrible things and get a laugh out of other young immature kids

    • @cvttx3585
      @cvttx3585 2 місяці тому

      so are you saying that he should be excused or what

  • @ADude-y3h
    @ADude-y3h 3 місяці тому +29

    Nwpo went hard in the match AND on that discord call

  • @Coach_Bass
    @Coach_Bass 3 місяці тому +9

    Its crazy how much this channel has grown recently

  • @lemoncake8377
    @lemoncake8377 3 місяці тому +16

    15:51 He was drinkin WA ER

  • @carson.4612
    @carson.4612 3 місяці тому +5

    Can’t wait till Team Seer makes their RLCS debut and wins everything!

  • @lambournnne
    @lambournnne 3 місяці тому +4

    All of these seer videos are so intriguing man keep up the training!!

  • @Hamilton_Gilpin
    @Hamilton_Gilpin 3 місяці тому +1

    It would be cool to see a 3v3 version of Seer. I also want to train against it but I know epic don't like that... I wish they'd just pay you and implement it into the game. Think about how good people would get :)

  • @BadChess56
    @BadChess56 3 місяці тому +1

    Seer is getting even better!
    Also, maybe you should set an extra flag for when the clock has not yet started and the time left until it does start (unless someone touches it) on a kickoff, just to fully complete Seer's sense of the game.

  • @soumalb10
    @soumalb10 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for uploading this 💞

  • @Dunce...
    @Dunce... 3 місяці тому +1

    Just gonna ignore the fact they kept the ball from the ground for over a minute at the end

  • @micaelz5477
    @micaelz5477 3 місяці тому +3

    what did nwpo do ?

  • @rayce9371
    @rayce9371 3 місяці тому +1

    Atow & Dark vs Seer bots!

  • @QuinTzzy
    @QuinTzzy 3 місяці тому +4

    Zen x Vatiria Vs SeerV7?

  • @LeoMumford
    @LeoMumford 3 місяці тому +5

    Plot twist: Seer is really Flakes 😲

  • @Smallsisplaying
    @Smallsisplaying 3 місяці тому +1

    Can we see seer v previous version seer? I think it would be interesting to see the small improvements in game

  • @mohamedelhadidi-qw1ej
    @mohamedelhadidi-qw1ej Місяць тому +1

    Can you change the seer car design make look sweaty or something 🔥

  • @hhaste
    @hhaste 3 місяці тому +2

    I wish Epic/Psyonix would implement these into the game.. or just allow anyone to play against them. I would love to be able to go into a private match with a friend and train against these. That would really turn the game around for the better, if they did that..

    • @johannest.8621
      @johannest.8621 3 місяці тому

      my goto-warmup is 1vs4 against bots. and i got the feeling they got better over the years, still no aerials but reading the ball.

  • @user-yv6xw7ns3o
    @user-yv6xw7ns3o 3 місяці тому

    Can't wait until Seer figures out mechanics like chain dashing, speed flipping, and physical play...

  • @hectorh4474
    @hectorh4474 2 місяці тому +1

    They look like theyre trying for resets, if they get to that point, everyones done!

  • @FabEnPeOr2
    @FabEnPeOr2 3 місяці тому +3

    What's the drama between jb and nwpo?

  • @pal1531
    @pal1531 3 місяці тому

    cant wait for upcoming seer updates! maybe you should give the bot a reward for defending from backwall then they will easily be able to save resets/double taps and other hard aerial plays since the bot never does that and thats a essential thing to do in high ranked 2v2

  • @pooglechen3251
    @pooglechen3251 3 місяці тому

    I think in order for Seer to defend against double taps, it would also need to be able to do double tabs...so the next version will be doublely deadly 😯

  • @SAiNT_Ryan25
    @SAiNT_Ryan25 3 місяці тому +1

    These the bots we need in casual

  • @xxhelllifexx1325
    @xxhelllifexx1325 Місяць тому

    Can we play against them?

  • @Swaeshy
    @Swaeshy 3 місяці тому +1

    ultrawide is there difficulties with doing something like what johnny suggests at 24:20 ?

    • @UltrawideGC
      @UltrawideGC  3 місяці тому +3

      yes 😅

    • @Swaeshy
      @Swaeshy 3 місяці тому

      @@UltrawideGC what kind of difficulties? im not super into ai and training them and how it works, curious about it

    • @Tackk6
      @Tackk6 3 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@Swaeshy based on my very surface level knowledge, you’d probably have to add a new “input” of demoing or dodging demos, and that would affect all levels of seers gameplay, which likely means he would have to fully retrain the AI, otherwise known as a shot ton of time implementing and a shit ton of time training. This is probably not 100% accurate because I’m not super educated on it, but something like that.

  • @darylsteenkamp
    @darylsteenkamp 3 місяці тому +1

    Just put down the controller when these bots start wall dashing 😅

  • @cmlisk6
    @cmlisk6 3 місяці тому

    Ah man, based on the title I would have been much more intrigued to check out how TRK and Nwpo did vs Seer, but unfortunately, I heard you announce the results in the Atomik Tox video! Oh well, I guess the gameplay is still entertaining, regardless or the results!

  • @aakarshgupta6798
    @aakarshgupta6798 3 місяці тому +30

    Damn the chat was so lame on this one. Made such a good matchup boring with all that whinning and crying, even forcing johny to not being able to talk about nwpo's plays that much.

    • @bogart.187
      @bogart.187 3 місяці тому +19

      Hes a kid, people make mistakes, he will learn and grow

    • @chipjones5570
      @chipjones5570 3 місяці тому +3

      @@bogart.187 he will 100% not learn. he was so confident in what he was saying as if it was just normal to him. he will still say it, just when nobody is recording or irl

    • @bigbang_x
      @bigbang_x 3 місяці тому +17

      @@chipjones5570 He is still a kid and that's up to him whether he improves or not, what he said was shitty we have all said shitty things we learn, get better and move on in life

    • @mushfiqurrahman2255
      @mushfiqurrahman2255 3 місяці тому

      What's the story? what happened with nwpo?

    • @aakarshgupta6798
      @aakarshgupta6798 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@chipjones5570 I am just gonna say that you're hating on a kid right now. I don't know how things work in your country but I definitely know that most of the people complaining are Americans. They love the cancel culture but it's not a worldwide thing so grow up and stop acting like you guys are saints or something and haven't done anything wrong in your life. Bro just said shit things. He didn't hurt anyone. He's a talented individual none the less and he doesn't deserve to lose everything for it

  • @ivarholsvik1260
    @ivarholsvik1260 3 місяці тому

    Shouldnt demo play be achived if you set up the penalty manually for getting demoed and increasing the reward for a demo as well?

  • @mikeyb1239
    @mikeyb1239 3 місяці тому

    This will be a big test!!!

  • @TechnetiumPrime
    @TechnetiumPrime 3 місяці тому

    Have you considered getting Seer to spawndash? Could potentially be hardcoded even.

  • @misterros94
    @misterros94 3 місяці тому

    Hey Ultrawide, I'm sure you've gotten this question but I only just found the creator of Seer has a yt and I've been wondering, is there any possibility of getting in contact with Psyonix to officially support the Seer bots in game?
    Even if they don't show up in causal (which would be understandable since they're better than 99.9% of the player base) it'd be awesome to be able to play them in Exhibition matches for practice with shadow defending flicks and whatnot.
    Hell, imagine if they allowed custom bot training where you could tell the Seer bot, "only go for flicks" or "only go for air dribble bumps" to practice specific defense, kinda like how you can choose AI options when training in a fighting game like SIFU.
    I'm on console so I can't play them unless it's officially in the game :(

    • @UltrawideGC
      @UltrawideGC  3 місяці тому

      Would be cool to put Seer into the game. Not sure it will happen anytime soon tho...

    • @misterros94
      @misterros94 3 місяці тому

      @@UltrawideGC understandable, I hope with the exposure that Seer is getting that Psyonix considers it! I suppose they have more pressing issues to address first (such as ddos)

  • @IsmaelCordier
    @IsmaelCordier 3 місяці тому +1

    Can seer play with a human mate or are the two seer just one entity?

    • @UltrawideGC
      @UltrawideGC  3 місяці тому +2

      Seer can play with humans

    • @IsmaelCordier
      @IsmaelCordier 3 місяці тому +4

      @@UltrawideGC yooo we need to see that

  • @Ratbane
    @Ratbane 3 місяці тому +2

    Nwpo the goat 🐐

  • @dseych
    @dseych 3 місяці тому

    Can the bots be trained to specifically get better at certain things (i.e. working on resets) or does it just have to happen naturally through many generations of the bot?

    • @guidodinello1369
      @guidodinello1369 3 місяці тому +2

      I think he tweaked the reward function to incentivize reset. Thats why it goes for so many even though lots of the time it doesnt actually use the flip. So he may be able to do that for other things, but I would enjoy more to see what can learn by itself without human contamination.

  • @Synky
    @Synky 3 місяці тому

    I dont stay up on the scene info what happened with NWPO?

    • @toblersto556
      @toblersto556 3 місяці тому

      basically some dude joined a discord vc with him and then proceeded to talk shit then nwpo responded to this guy by saying bad stuff (including slurs) then it got leaked on twitter

  • @DavisLyons
    @DavisLyons 3 місяці тому

    So what exactly happened with Nwpo?

  • @vaira103
    @vaira103 3 місяці тому

    Am thinking it will be fun if someone dubs the AI

  • @ROCKETKOBE
    @ROCKETKOBE 3 місяці тому +1

    Seer seerving on d reg tho...😢

    • @ROCKETKOBE
      @ROCKETKOBE 3 місяці тому +1

      Nah i can beat it watxh...
      Join carton club

  • @baderssr1645
    @baderssr1645 3 місяці тому +7

    TRK fakes Seer 13:16

  • @sparklealexonmc4684
    @sparklealexonmc4684 3 місяці тому

    can anyone play with seer to practice?

  • @mattmedema6426
    @mattmedema6426 3 місяці тому

    I wish I could play PC and practice against the bots.

  • @mistaboombosticyt
    @mistaboombosticyt 3 місяці тому

    Hilarious that TRK looked mad he couldn't beat bots with his skill alone so he goes for demos. 😂😂😂 Salty kid.

  • @LeoMumford
    @LeoMumford 3 місяці тому +2

    Hold on.... How can the bot tell where the person is without seeing him? I think this is cheating. The bot must use the same "senses" we use.

    • @UltrawideGC
      @UltrawideGC  3 місяці тому +6

      Seer: a person of supposed supernatural insight who sees visions of the future.

    • @LeoMumford
      @LeoMumford 3 місяці тому

      Well said 😆

  • @francishernandez
    @francishernandez 3 місяці тому

    Who created Seer bots? What a beast, much better than nexto

    • @sebseb6799
      @sebseb6799 3 місяці тому +19

      You're on his channel. It's Ultrawide who created the bot. Check out his streams to see more of Seer 😊

    • @UltrawideGC
      @UltrawideGC  3 місяці тому +10

      Me 😉

  • @tohsimomru7797
    @tohsimomru7797 3 місяці тому +1

    What did nwpo do wrong? What did i miss

    • @EGOxSLAYER
      @EGOxSLAYER 3 місяці тому

      From what i understood he was in a private discord call and someone baited him into a cussing war while recording(he muted his pov) and npw said f@g, n!g or things along these lines to him and he leaked it

  • @mrhollw00d83
    @mrhollw00d83 3 місяці тому +2

    150 years or gameplay experience and still can't use flip resets. Who are you? Me?

  • @Ropies
    @Ropies 3 місяці тому +2

    Didn’t NWPO start saying the N word and get kicked off R1😂😂😂👎🏻

  • @madeshsan
    @madeshsan 3 місяці тому +5

    As an Arab I can’t admire Nwpo like I used to

    • @texsion
      @texsion 3 місяці тому +4

      It all just got swept under the table so wild how that worked out

    • @bemb4064
      @bemb4064 3 місяці тому

      why what'd he do?

    • @texsion
      @texsion 3 місяці тому +3

      @@bemb4064 he said the n word during an altercation. And for his “apology” he said he said it in “self defense” idk what scenario you need to say the n word in self defense ever in life

    • @bemb4064
      @bemb4064 3 місяці тому

      @@texsion like the n word with the a at the end or the "er"?

    • @madeshsan
      @madeshsan 3 місяці тому

      @@bemb4064 he said it in Arabic, so er.

  • @iShowMea1t
    @iShowMea1t 3 місяці тому

    why you keep saying gg to the pros like you the one playing

  • @Loiiiiiiiiiii
    @Loiiiiiiiiiii 3 місяці тому

    These are so obviously staged

  • @justcd89
    @justcd89 3 місяці тому

    Rocket League community is terrible! Seer are the only non-toxic players! Ban them all kids need to learn they can't just say whatever their emotions bring out. Some serious anger issues if you ever told some to find a rope or something close to that. I feel sorry for our gamers these days.

  • @youtubeunbanmepls
    @youtubeunbanmepls 3 місяці тому +4

    does the ai hae the same access to info as we do or does it get more? like does it know the exact coords of players behind the ball even if it doesn't seem them?

    • @LiuJimmyJymzo
      @LiuJimmyJymzo 3 місяці тому +2

      It gets them straight from the server. So the bot's name (I like to think) is a joke: Seer doesn't "see" like we do - it receives info in three dimensions whereas we see in two. That's why it can react to what's behind the ball.

    • @theradomguy5581
      @theradomguy5581 3 місяці тому

      He is also asking if it has more info then we do. Like does it read in memory how much each boost each player on the enemy team has as well

    • @mikeyb1239
      @mikeyb1239 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@theradomguy5581 we have all this into we just can't track it. U can watch people grab pads and do the maths to know exactly how much boost they have. So it's not really "more info"

    • @theradomguy5581
      @theradomguy5581 3 місяці тому +1

      @@mikeyb1239 Your not watching them 24/7 and you cannot say with 100% confidence how much boost some one has you can if they grab a 100 pad obviously but not in the middle of the field. Also what about seeing the players through the ball with there X,Y,Z Cords always being fed into it? That is either considered "More info" or just cheating take your pick

    • @mikeyb1239
      @mikeyb1239 3 місяці тому

      @@theradomguy5581 you can always see them. Tilt your camera. None of this is new info.

  • @kylokat
    @kylokat 3 місяці тому +15

    Seer really likes to do flip resets but not actually using the flip reset🤔

    • @edgeribble
      @edgeribble 3 місяці тому +2

      Flip resets are really hard to use. Just think about how many variants of flip resets u know and how many different ways there are to use the flip. It's very complicated

  • @Smallsisplaying
    @Smallsisplaying 3 місяці тому +7

    What did nwpo do?

    • @wolfgangiii4719
      @wolfgangiii4719 3 місяці тому +3

      My understanding is a guy was recording a discord call with nwpo and a bunch of others in it. The guy said some trash talk to nwpo and nwpo blew up and said racist stuff to the guy. Then he posted the call online. I don't believe nwpo was actually angry but he was trying to be edgy and it was super racist.

    • @Smallsisplaying
      @Smallsisplaying 3 місяці тому +1

      @@wolfgangiii4719 ah and it wasnt in English which is why it’s not every where, gotcha. Thanks

  • @_GIIBBZY
    @_GIIBBZY 3 місяці тому +25

    INSTANT WATCH!

    • @jerry_mandarin
      @jerry_mandarin 3 місяці тому

      siick, I had to wait for all 31 minutes to pass 😔

  • @thekraken4265
    @thekraken4265 3 місяці тому +13

    Daniel and beastmode vs seer bot next!

    • @edgeribble
      @edgeribble 3 місяці тому +1

      They might play Seer when they come to London but Rw9 and Kiilleerz are better than DanMode

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste 3 місяці тому

      @@edgeribble I hope DanMode & RW9/Killeerz play a showmatch at London.

    • @edgeribble
      @edgeribble 3 місяці тому

      @@hhaste same. That would be insane. And then they both play Seer and see who can play better against it

  • @LeoMumford
    @LeoMumford 3 місяці тому +1

    Here's an idea: 150 years of a bot playing against itself can't beat what collectively if you add up all the hours of human RL pros would be more than 150 hours. According to a.i. it's about 1.5 million hours human Pros have in RL. So this gave us enough time to discover the mechanics the bots are missing. I wonder what it would be like if the bots had 1.5 million hours? Would they chain flip resets? Would they demo?

  • @highschooldxdfan39
    @highschooldxdfan39 3 місяці тому +2

    19:16 I didn't think it was possible for a human to get a clean beat on seer

    • @misterros94
      @misterros94 3 місяці тому +2

      Not even Seer bots can comprehend Nwpo's speed

    • @johannest.8621
      @johannest.8621 3 місяці тому

      fast aerial + airroll is so fast ... always in awe when pros keeping booming the ball and the other team almost casually reads and gets to the ball.

  • @MatttKelly
    @MatttKelly 3 місяці тому +15

    As a software engineer im a big fan of what your doing and beyond impressed. This needs to be how pros warm up before matches. Or some kind of series for a week or season to try to keep the bots out of the #1 spot.
    I'm not sure if you can get into ranked matches, but if psyonix let you, you'd probably be able to get your data much faster, then tune it per rank, amd essentially this turns into the next gen bots for offline/practice matches and stuff.

    • @Synky
      @Synky 3 місяці тому +3

      I think psyonix want it out of ranked. But you're right I think they should make an exception I'd love to run into this bot and play it even if it meant a certain loss.

    • @AbrasiveCarl
      @AbrasiveCarl 3 місяці тому +1

      If they marketed it well, like used SEER as the like ad for more smurf detection and stuff... Call him like the cheater deputy.

    • @MatttKelly
      @MatttKelly 3 місяці тому

      It could litterally revive offline play too for practice if it was the new in game bots and tuned accordingly. There's a lot of opportunity here.

    • @MrAminalCrackers
      @MrAminalCrackers 3 місяці тому

      What does you being a software engineer have to do with any of this? Oh it's just a cry for attention and validation, got it.

    • @Synky
      @Synky 3 місяці тому

      @@MrAminalCrackers what? No, it's just that he's saying he can appreciate it from a software engineering standpoint. You're reading too much into it I think.

  • @kole076
    @kole076 3 місяці тому +1

    when are they gonna teach the bots to talk trash thru quick chats??

    • @UltrawideGC
      @UltrawideGC  3 місяці тому +1

      We cant. The bot cant use quickchat 😂

  • @Savens63YT
    @Savens63YT Місяць тому

    Rw9 vs Seerv7 would be a good series!

  • @davidkosiba624
    @davidkosiba624 3 місяці тому

    I thought the very air dominant style of MENA will give more trouble to Seer but they did surprisingly well

  • @BuzzaB77
    @BuzzaB77 3 місяці тому +2

    Fine attitude, improving on mistakes, no but Isn't this NWPO second ban???
    Are all mistakes forgiven even for offenders?
    If not how many chances?

  • @petrezw2349
    @petrezw2349 3 місяці тому +1

    This is great content 👏

  • @Treityn.
    @Treityn. 3 місяці тому

    How did he feel lmao HOW DID HE FEEL 8:18

  • @kingsolomonkss9407
    @kingsolomonkss9407 3 місяці тому

    18:00 was seer attempting a curve dash?

  • @SchizoFrenic.
    @SchizoFrenic. 3 місяці тому

    Are these the highest ping opponents that the bot has faced?