Sunday True Villain Of Penacony? Order in The Dreamscape Explained - Star Rail 2.2 Lore & Theory
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Sunday True Villain Of Penacony? Keeping "Ena" Order Of The Dreamscape Explained - Honkai Star Rail 2.2 Lore & Theory - Ігри
Idk exactly how but can Ena Of Order be involved in Penacony!?
Knowing Hoyo yeah!!!!
Yeah, assimilated or not, Ena is an Aeon and Penacony is inception the planet.
We had 2 levels of the dream, only one level remains, the watchmaker hat is there with Robin
HOLD UP HOLD UP I HAVEN’T WATCHED THE FULL VIDEO NOR NOT EVEN HALF OF THE LORE IN PENACONY BUT THE EYE IN ENA’S SPLASH ART LOOKS LIKE THE EYE OF MEME💀
How ena can involved when she already get asorbed by xipe ?
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 well not ena directly but xipe and ena basically just became one because their paths collided. the entire hierarchy in penacony would fit the order for sure since this was kind of the idea of ena's harmony.
even if dead. people can still follow their paths (like the nameless).
this aged like fine wine
Fine wine? Bro this is yamazaki whiskey 28 years
After playing through the 2.2 story, this video has been a spot on...
Gotta wonder if there’s Emanators out there from paths whose Aeons have been absorbed, like an Emanator of the Order still kicking around after the Swarm disaster.
That what I'm saying!! Can't just disappear
I think Dan Heng Imbibitor Lunae is kind of an Emanator of Constance (Long), at that’s what I think he is and the elder of the vidiyadra
@@ryadbelkacemi5375Longs path name in English is Permanence
Remember if there isn't emenators can be created too , we learned that on ruan mei quest she cloned the emenator of propagation
@@IX09513 we don’t know about that
The result that bug dead quick is unclear
They can’t find out problem come from the bug or come from the way they create it
Harmony is a musical term, so I think it would be neat if Robin had a connection to the Aeon of Harmony and Sunday has a connection to the Aeon of Order.
That's what I think too
aeon of harmony and aeon of order is the same aeon, because they merged into one
@@daiwang8111 The Aeon of Order was a separate being long before it merged with Xipe, Ena is one of the ancient Aeons that was already present in the Dusk Wars and the Swarm Disaster. There is also a theory that Ena the Order would try to control Xipe the Harmony from the inside.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 yea they are separate in the beginning, but they have merged into one so they are now the same thing
@@daiwang8111but Ena can remain partly conscious inside Xipe.
right before you said that you think maybe the order aeon got absorbed on purpose, i got the same idea, what if they just changed skins, and really it's the other way around, what if its easier to preserve order through the guise of harmony, would also make sense why Xipe has 3 faces or masks , like a puppet maybe, and the whole puzzle on the body thing (probably not, BUT WHAT IF)
Maybe!? 🙃
@@TheGamerChronicles999 Absolutly no because it's almost 100% that Robin is an emanator of harmony in some way. Or at least she uses the power of Harmony due to her being a really high-tier pathstrider.
My personal theory is that absorbed paths isn't gone anyway, they're ABSORBED. That means that the path of Order became a part of Harmony path. It isn't gone and concept isn't destroyed, it's just that pathstrider of Order becomes pathstrider of Harmony but still uses part of Harmony that mean Order.
The same way Boothil as a galaxy ranger, even being a pathstrider of Hunt is way closer to concept, that can theoretically be absorbed by hunt. For example path of Justice.
In the same time the China-town pathstriders still follow Hunt, but in other way. This makes their concept of Hunt slightly different from Hunt of galaxy rangers.
The same way bugs (If there are some in the universe) now part of the Abundance path, but strive in the direction of Propagation, while Lofu cultists follow other variant of Abundance with is Everliving or someshit.
And for Argenti. There are two types of path followers. First are Emanators. Emanators are basically a DND priests. Their powers goes FROM WILL of the Aeon to let em use power of path. Second are the pathstriders. It's the persons who follow the path of a concept. Even if your god of beauty is dead you still can strive the path of it. Only thing needed for it is being a person of that concept. It's not under an Aeon control to choose what path you strive because path of a person based on it's personality and actions, and that means that Aeon does not affect your path forcefully when it dies.
For me the most favorable theory is that Aeons is just a pathstriders who got through reality to imaginary tree and it's the way they became an Aeon. Because tha means that in the same way Aeons itself had no problem becoming the pathstriders(before they became an Aeon) of their concept even if there was no Aeon of it. This point of view for me just makes way more sense than others in all the arcs of the story.
@aronanikushin6480 yeah i think that makes sense and thats one of the more likely options forsure that if order is playing a part it could be through harmony because like u said it was absorbed! Forsure one of the more likely scenarios
@@aronanikushin6480 if robin is emanator of harmony
Sunday will not believe she dead
You can’t kill an emanator without a fight
And a fight with a emanator is impossible to hide
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 Nah bro. I see where you going from but there is a problem in your logic.
Emanator in this discussion is not exacly someone absolutly overpowered(like Acheron). It's just a person who is allowed to use power of it's path by an Aeon. In this way trailblazer is an emanator of Destuction and Preservation. But even knowing the fact that we are emanator of two pathes, if for example Ruan Mei decidied to stealsthy kill us, she can just use potion and cut our throat in a second or while we sleep.
Sunday was killed off guard in 2.1 and he almost 100% is an Emanator due to what he used on Aventurine and leaked stuff. And in addition Sunday seen memoria of Robins death. Robin can be killed even easier considering the fact that she's more peaceful of a sibling. There is no problem for Gallager to catch her off guard and snap in second.
Also remember the fact that Robin's voice is in fact uses path of Harmony(In other way her voice wouldn't struggle singing due to corrupted Harmony on Penacony) which basically means that she, in fact, is an Emanator of Harmony.
Now, maybe she's not on the same powerlevel as Acheron, but she's in fact a huge person for all followers of Harmony due to her being the "Voice" of it across the galaxy. She's like an actual pop star for the whole cosmos.
Like, the actual death of Robin would've weakened Harmony as a whole if you think about it for a moment. So she's definetly a kind of emanator, even if she's not that strong.
TBH in my opinion Sunday's boss fight is either the Eternal Centurion or the Harmonious Choir or some other Harmonic String.. Sunday did tell Aventurine that the Eternal Centurion is coming to enact the Harmony's justice
Thats very possible
I would say it's most probably "Harmonious Choir" Dominicus, since Dominicus is literally Sunday in Latin
@@alexblaze4171 Oooh, I like that!
@@alexblaze4171you guessed it right!
@@althea7181
Heads up!
ena being present in penacony is not a sign of xipe being absent. they're now part of the harmony, since being assimilated by definition is not simply being gone. so i assume order has its place under the rule of xipe and sunday's boss fight's design has influence from both ena and xipe, from being a golden puppet to being a literal conductor (harmony is associated with music)
Didn't Aha turn into a human/passenger to get in the Astral Express just to blow up everything. What if Sunday is just a "human form" of Ena. She did get absorbed but left a remnant behind in Penacony being Sunday.
Yes yes they did. They blow up part of it.
And strangely Aha is Akivili friend, but remember that Akivili always bully Pom Pom, his own construct
@@user-ku8yi5to4faha also one of aeon that fight tayzzyronth the propagation
@@user-ku8yi5to4f while i'm sure Akivili did do something like that, we shouldn't use the dream bubble on penacony as proof. It's literally so sus and so unnoteworthy that it's fairly obvious it's meant to be one of the nameless who stayed on Penacony, not Akivili
@@user-ku8yi5to4faha is not akivili friend
Never hear about the aeon make friend with other aeon
At best is under some circumstance, they temporary become allies
I always took the absorbtion of order by harmony as a sort of encapsulation. Harmony is a wider concept and therefore "beats" order. But destruction goes against harmony so i always took it as a sort of assimilation : xipe would on caracteristics from the entities they "beat", so in a sense xipe would not simply absord Ena but fully accept and welcome them while remodeling them to fit in the whole "harmony" puzzle.
I also wouldn't be surprised if everything that is happening was a sort of update to penacony, which is supposed to be blessed by the harmony. And that place is pretty messed up, so i wouldn't be surprised if the aeon of harmony disliked it and decided to let Ena take the wheel to put their house in order. Same thing in fights, Ena seems more suited to bless a character with brute strength while Xipe seems to favor granting their followers ways of resolving things pacifically.
i wonder if one aeon assimilating another goes both ways - like yes, the other aeon is absorbed into the dominant one, but it ends up diluting the absorbing aeon. the ideals of order haven’t vanished, they just exist in a new form.
Yeah I kinda agree with the idea that Ena did it on purpose because
1. How would a control freak allow themselves to be taken over and
2. Why would the path of harmony and order collide at that moment? I feel like order and harmony were concepts from the jump similar to destruction. So why all of a sudden was there an overlap? I think Ena had something to do with it without a doubt
There needs to be harmony in order but there is no need for order in harmony and also it's because harmony is a wider concept then order I think that's why ena was absorbed by xipe
@@isafrost567 well it make sense
To have chaos you need at least 2 object
Harmony make everything become 1, 1 is absolute order , you can’t have chaos with 1
@@isafrost567Ena could’ve learned from Xipe tho. The planets under her rule did die out after a certain amount of time because she used order to create order.
But Harmony results in Order without necessarily using orderly means, Ena seized the opportunity to be absorbed/absorb her.
But one thing that bugs me is that the family doesn’t really use harmonious means and it’s seems they use order to create order again so I doubt my theory is true xd.
@@user-vr1wz7ti6t I don't think so I remember in the swarm disaster it said ena was assimilated by xipe when they ascended to become an aeon and pls correct me if I'm wrong
The Order has def been absorbed by Xipe. I trust everything Aha tells us, he claims he helped The Harmony garner Ena’s entirety. Also think the Equilibrium is a target of The Harmony.
The master dreamwhatever, Sundays master, is one of the four “facets”, emanators, of Xipe.
Where’s the fun in all that for Aha though? Wouldn’t the master of trickery and elation love the idea of an aeon impersonating another?
@@user-vr1wz7ti6t it likes being “helpful” to other gods. He even tells Xipe that she looks better after having absorbed Ena.
i have a thought, what if Order actually absorbed harmony and because Aeons can take differnet shapes took on the shape of harmony and this is part of its plan, now like u said has all the important factions gathered on penacony for some reason and penacony and the dream has always been about order and control not harmony? the puppet master that is order with the face of harmony but everyone is getting suspecious of this? just as crazy thought but his boss fight does look like it though!
Also someone said somewhere that the eye in Ena's art is same to Aventurine/Kakavasha's eye. And that Gaithara triclops is a version of Ena that Avgin followed. That maybe sigonia was governed by Ena like Belobog by Qlipoth. And that Sigonia's hardships came after Xipe absorbed Ena. And The reason of Sigonia's downfall was Ena being absorbed by Xipe, somehow Kakavasha is blessed/gazed by Ena. And that she is the reason for Aventurine's luck. She saves him from life threatening situation so he can fulfill her plan or something. Aventurine being a tool to being order to Penacony I guess. Maybe that's why his actions are important. It was I think on some youtube video.
penaconussy
interesting thought, what if after assimilating Ena, Xipe tried to co-exist with her. Being in "Harmony" with each other. Ena perhaps lay low and goes along, presumably "dead" or "assimilated" and she may or may not have already told her followers about it.
This man cooked and it aged perfectly
Cooked into a full dish
Praying he doesn’t get cocolia treatment. I want him to be playable 😭
he surely issss
PLEASEEE
welp
@@TheSasthe’s not dead there’s a hidden quest where robin asks you to find out what happened to him
Womp womp
I am WILLING TO BET Sunday is an emenator, either of harmony or Order
Hell, perhaps he's something even higher than an emenator. He's definitely not normal. Him using that one curse on Aventurine was a lot more significant than I think most people understood.
I've heard someone theorize if Sunday himself is the stellaron. I'm not really sure how that would work, but its a theory
What if he is the aeon itself? Its a far stretch but I could genuinely see Sunday being whats left of the path of order. Whatever was left of Ena perhaps split- half going to Xipe, and the rest going to the family? Or maybe Ena was unable to fully blend with Xipe due to not embodying harmony- and instead it manifested itself some other way? I'm genuinely curious.
Also the symbolism as you pointed out, was a very good point.
I think he’s the emanator of harmony
@@Dante_KunI honestly at one point thought he was both an emanator of Harmony and Order- now I think I'm not sure.
Robin could be an emanator of Harmony while Sunday is a emanator of Order?
The DreamMaster, that guy is so suspicious. Like- he adopted 2 children who both turned out to be very powerful with a close connection to the Harmony. One become a Family Head and the other became a universal superstar
@@Dante_Kun
Well
Order is often prominent in creating harmony
Wouldn't be surprised if Order is orchestrating a ton of stuff to bring itself back
Maybe the "real dreamscape" has something to do with that, like it's how it'll be brought back
Gallagher called Sunday brother. We know Gallagher is one of Watchmaker's children. Is it possible that Sunday is also Watchmaker's child?
Sunday and Robin were adopted by Dreammaster, I think they have been following Harmony since then. What was the Dreammaster's plan to Sunday? And who is the Dreammaster? Is it possible the Aeon of Harmony, Xipe or Ena is the Dreammaster?
Anyway I also looking forward to see Sunday in Depth (where we are also now) cuz I think he planned to "die", in the end he knew Gallagher is a meme or a meme controller so he knew he was going to die or he wanted to.
Funfact 7 is not only an angelic number but it also means completeness (which is almost order).
Gallagher called Sunday "a kind brother" as a way to mock him because Sunday is a siscon is what I'm getting at from looking at the other languages.
@@aesvira3042either that or he's mocking him cuz Gallagher is technically a part of the family. So him sarcastically saying "brother" makes sense too.
both of the comments above mine are correct - he uses a word more akin to “big brother” in other languages which is obviously a dig at the loss of robin, but also it’s meant to be an insincere genuflection, reflective of the fact that they’re both members of the family. they are not literal brothers.
Unlikely that an aeon would personally meddle with the mortal world(except akivili, aha and probably lan) at most the dreammaster might be an emanator.
Nope
Galgher is an imaginaty being cuz enigmata or smt
What if Enas path becomes playable in 2.3 SU update 💀 would be cool
I can definitely see a new Simulated Universe path for sure.
Maybe a path that has to do with buffing allies, every in-game path has buffs for SU except Harmony
@@jasmineelhilali9152 Harmony path could be like an opposite of Nihility path
@@user-vo1lj1qn3u nihility is opposite of everything
That would lowkey make the best plot twist ever ngl cause imagine every player faces when they are excited for Harmony Path to be released in 2.3 but it ended being The Order Path instead 💀
There is something about Sunday but I didn't know what it was until you pointed out Ena.
Awesome theory! From a meta level, we suspect at some point of the story, TB will likely resonate with the Harmony. (Not sure why didn’t already happen with Hunt/Abundance, but maybe they are saving that for later.) Whenever this happens, what reason would we have to do so?
Preservation needed a true representative when one could not be found within its supposed followers. Cocolia the Architect had abandoned preserving her living people to “preserve” the planet in ice, and so we took up the Lance in her stead.
Perhaps Sunday and the family too have abandoned Harmony for Order, and we will eventually need to save Xipe from Ena to save Penecony.
Yep
i am begging hoyo please make sunday playable. if someone knows for sure please tell me hahaha
Amen, I really hope they do.
I need him.
@@icedteatoni
Cry about it
I really thought it aswell, i feel like it was not the end with that whole thing of Ena getting absorbed, principally something that was seemingly so strong getting assimilated by a recently ascended aeon, in my opinion, i feel like ( voluntarily or not ) Sunday is getting used by Ena to took control over all the entities in Xipe and go back to power, i'm not sure about it but if i'm not mistaken ( correct me if i'm wrong guys ), Xipe is the union of a lot of entities, and that Ena wasn't absorbed necessarily because she was from a similar concept, but because Xipe wanted Ena to be the part of that collective mind against Ena's will ( and of course not being in control and be forced to be in equal in a collective system would be a true nightmare for something/someone like Ena, that's why i don't belive Ena did it willingly with some sort of greater plan ), but Ena saw the possibility of being even more powerful by taking control over Xipe and ruling over that much entities, i'm glad that i wasn't the only one who saw similarities with Sunday's boss fight and Ena, and about the paths and concept you said, in my opinion the aeons are the embodiment of that path but the paths doesn't depend on the aeons to exist, taking the knights of beauty, it may be a silly example but if it's true that can be a strong evidence, all the knights of beauty are very beautiful as it seems by now, on a way that feels pretty unnatural, Argenti for example, this can be debatable for some people, but he has some ungodly rizz and beauty for a mere pathstrider or a regular human that unknowingly follow or strenght a path, i don't believe he was born this way, or at least that he was born with the basics ( being ginger with green eyes ) but some sort of Idrila blessing upgraded his appearance by a thousand fold to be that way, this being said, i believe that regardless of the aeon being dead or not, it can still leave marks on it's path to it's followers to receive, like a blessing, and that can only change if someone/something else ascends as the new aeon of that path, that's possibly how there could still be followers or emanators from paths that it's aeons had already died, got assimilated, absorbed or anything like that, because aeons aren't the reason for a path to exist, they're simply beings, entities, animals, creatures, humanoids, humans, artificial things, etc, that due to the Honkai Star Rail universal laws of existance got on a very privileged place on that path as it's most avid embodiments until that time, and the emanators doesn't receive the power from the aeon itself, but the aeon only makes easier for an emanator to extract the path's imaginary power, like when you go to buy something at the market, the market isn't the producer of for example, a rice package you buy, they sell it to you, but the owner of that market didn't planted and took care of the rice, they're simply making easier for you to obtain the rice, as the owner of the market has the contact with the farm that plants the rice, but going back to another point that you mentioned, about Sunday being an emanator of Ena, i don't believe so, he doesn't give a vibe of an emanator, but i have no much reason to believe that he's not, just doesn't seems like truth to me, but i do believe that his race is blessed by Ena, you see, Sunday and Robin aren't humans, but humanoid creatures, they clearly have biological differences from humans like Himeko, Welt, March 7th ( probably ), although it's minimal it still there, and as we saw at the Xianzhou with the Vidryatra ( i think i typed it wrong, anyway, Dan Heng Embibidor Lunae race to make it easier ), they're not humans, look like them but have differences, and they received a blessing from an aeon that is no longer alive, the blessing of rebirthing and that blessings is given to them regardless if they follow the path of that aeon or not, that's why both Ena and Sunday have so many biblical references and similarities between each other, because his race was blessed by Ena, and if what i said is right, and Ena is in fact alive but somehow trapped inside Xipe, he somehow got inside the family, took the place as their leader, all in a plan to help the Aeon he's truly loyal to break free and rule over Xipe and Penacony, and nobody ever suspected because due to that absorption and Xipe's nature, in some way Ena is Xipe, but not totally so nobody could ever suspect or accuse him of conspiracy against Penacony and Xipe's cult, and now as the leader of the Family, anyone that discovers about his plans, are quickly silenced.
I was thinking the same thing when it cam to the theme of Penacony. Everything seems more closely related to Ena the order than Xipe. There is a theory that says that Xipe didn't absorbe Ena rather, they fused. This theory came from the concept during the 2.2 boss battle where the boss summons the aid of an entity. If you look at the hand it has the color schemes of Ena and Xipe combine.
I think the path of "Harmony" might be a fusion of both it and the order. If not than it's something else, but even if all the theories are wrong, there is no doubt that there is a lot of hints from desgins and the fact that Sunday's and Robin's species the Halovians share theme of the order especially their halos which Ena's "puppet" also has one too. Overall, the events near the end of the swarm disaster are very ancient and old and information that we have about the Aeons and what they have done throughout time could be now outdated or we don't have the full picture, not even Herta fully knows, this is when also ouroboros vanished.
The Aeons must become steadfast in adhering to their paths otherwise they will literally cease to exist.
Precisely yeah
If we look at what the Harmony and Order are based off of it’s obviously real world religion as a concept. Sunday and Robin are obviously based on Christian biblically accurate angels. They are sent down to do their gods bidding.
However I believe Robin represents Harmony, and Sunday represents Order. Sunday is the control freak who does incorporate Harmony by seeking Justice but justice in the real world is all about an established order.
Robin is a singer, an instrument to the Harmony who brings people together and appears more compassionate. She became an instrument to Xipe and there are parallels with many verses in the bible about becoming an instrument of God.
Dominicus also translates Sunday, but also means “belonging to God” and such, an established hierarchy which is more aligned with order. harmony doesn’t really require order but order requires harmony.
Xipe has no reason to willingly destroy a God however it was stated that the broader path assimilates the Aeon of the more narrow path meaning Harmony is the broader path of order but close enough to assimilate it. But Xipe doesn’t seem to have destroyed Ena, paths don’t disappear they are a constant within a universe for pathstriders to walk so the path of order does exist just without an Aeon.
But what if Xipe and Ena just became one within that assimilation. Harmony is about working together like individual cogs in a machine to join a harmonious choir.
This natural order still presides over the universe and Ena was the most ancient of the Aeons
this also aligns with the Watchmaker Analogy which is a real world teleological argument that states that when there is a design it implies there is a designer, that a creator is implied to exist due to the design existing. An argument for God to explain the natural laws and order of the universe. This in my eyes is why they chose to have title “watchmaker” in the game, not only that Ena’s art even includes her presiding over such a dream bubble with the weird eye guy that sells dream bubbles next to THEM.
The Watchmaker is a follower of Ena more than anyone who created the Dreamscape. If this is correct then this was foreshadowed by Aventurine when he said “Is this what the Harmony represents? Constraint and coercion” obviously Harmony doesn’t mean that and harmony can exist without order, however what if Order isn’t completely destroyed and is like a false following of the harmony that those who want to follow the harmony are unknowingly following the path of order instead.
Like a false teaching leading to only confusion and discord due to the false teachings of harmony. This also would reason why the enigmata would wish to involve themselves, so the truth of realisation that The Family is actually more about the Order rather than Harmony and that the Ena is still able to give power due to being with Xipe.
I can't believe no one has made a theory video on this already, they seem to be taking Gallagher as the villain at face value. Another thing to note is Sunday's connection to Something Unto Death. In the final cutscene between him and Gallagher, the shot is framed ambiguously: Death's shadow appears to be coming directly from Sunday's own shadow (Death literally being a shadow, the black to Sunday's white). Notice how the death shot doesn't show who has been killed. I'm sceptical as to whether Sunday has actually been struck. The angelic eye symbolism in his design and the eyes of Death are too perfect to be cooincidental. I believe he has been orchestrating this whole thing and if not controlling Death, at least has some connection to it.
Its funny because I almost added that and did notice that when making this how a shadow emerges from Sunday and we dont see who it strikes 100% agree seems the more they want me to think its Gallagher the less I want to believe it
If you watch it in slow you can tell sunday was the one who got stabbed
@@quietguyjosh4643 yeah and also that sunday took the stabbing like a chad apparantly. no reaction. nothing. they chose that angle purposely.
Gosh you’re such a seer. Are you perhaps an Emanator of Finality? 😢😢
Haha maybe ;)
I feel like Acheron wasn't really a part of Ena's plan, it wanted the House of Ifrit to come to the ball, which means Destruction and not Nihility. And with everything we've seen, I expect Acheron, and Aventurine because of 2.1, to be the reason why Ena can't win.
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Love your content !
I don’t think Ena would be relèvent to the story but t this point, plus we already know some things about Penacony and the Harmony :
1- There’s a lot of robotic being in Penacony (the monsters and even the Intellitrons, which resembles a lot the final boss).
2- It is said that the Harmony most likely has Emanators in the Harmonic Strings, which some are in relation with music and orchestras (the boss fight) => playing in Harmony.
In fact how the story has been managed since Robin’s drip marketing, makes me a lot perplexed. We know she will be alive (not the same case with Ting Yun who died after she was playable), so Sundays death was abnormal, AND for someone who can conjure Harmony, controls Ravens and is a Halovian, turning him into a puppeteer would be incoherent in my opinion.
Anyway, I think and I would love to see him unleash his power either for good or bad in the name of harmony as a mysterious Emanator rather than he controlling a big meca in 2.2 😂
Ok so , essentialy we got
Propagation = Ruan mei
Erudition = Screwllum
So we still have stephen and herta to get their SU expansion, and the ones already existing cover two things both explain
The death of an Aeon and the emperor's war
So my cureent theory is that
1. Next SU expansion is stephen focus , with the thene of aeons absorbing each other
2. In the histry there is a group of people that are trying to separate ena and xipe
Those are my thoughs!
I think the way Xipe absorbs Aeons could be unique as it's described as a sort of hive mind of aeons but what if a stellaron is disrupting the hive similar to how one disrupted the trailblaze path?
Quick reminder that Xipe is described as multiple beings fused into one. So it's possible that the Order still lives as one of the multiple personalities within the Harmony.
Yes considering from the artwork of xipe only known front, left and right faces, the back must be ena face too
Also pointing out that a giant eyeball ushers us into the dreamscape and penacony is covered in televisions there’s a whole cctv room it’s almost like we are being watched by a greater entity
I dont know if this is the proper pronunciation but alot of the time I hear people say Xipe like this⬇️⬇️⬇️
The X being pronounced in like a 'sch' kind of sound.
The 'ip' being used like you would for words like zip, or pip.
And the 'e' being used for like an 'eh' or 'ay' sound.
So 'sch-ip-eh' or 'sch-ip-ay'
plus "sch-ip-ay" sounds metal as hell so I use that one
Great analysis; you could be right about this. As for the path and Aeons, I believe from my understanding by reading the lores in-game; an individual walks on a path so far that they create that branch and make it prominent. At that moment, they also ascend to Aeonhood. If later on they disappear or absorbed or “die”, the Aeon is no more, but the path remains. (I believe Himeko also reiterates this.) That’s why it’s possible to still have followers on a path with no Aeon. Now if the person walks too far on a path following an already existing Aeon, they might become an Emanator either naturally, or directly blessed by the respective Aeon. I don’t know if anyone can still become an Emanator if the Aeon that belong on that path is already “dead”; this part is a bit of myth to me and I don’t recall any info on it. Would they become the Aeon themselves instead of Emanator? Or would they just be a fellow path follower?
Just returning to this video to say it was true.
Him being the final boss doesn’t surprise me. What will is what will Robin do in all this.
Make the universe become one to bring ultimate peace 🤷🏻♂️
If i remember right, there is some antagonist with this ideology 🤷🏻♂️
I will not suprise if sunday and robin have this ideology
The eye reminds me of death perhaps they are more linked than we thought
I really really REALLY like this!!!!
I feel like Sunday is an emanator of order
He can’t using power of xipe when is emanator of order
That just made me realize there’s that Eye guy that we did memory quests with, is that related?
I hope Sunday is a sneak peak of what Columbina will be like
from what I recall about the aeons and their path connections, they cannot be broken even by death, this was stated very early on in the game
I mean, Panacony is defying Order iitself by allowing people to live in a dream. Makes sense Ena would want to destroy it but why Sunday
Sunday is basically Odin. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was order.
You can also see enas hand in new weekly sunday boss
Wow you called it! Just finished 2.2 wowow
Seems like most people forgot that Kafka has confirmed how to pronounce Xipe's name during the interrogation at the Loufu
Broooo that would be suchba cool twist
Perhaps penacony was necessary for ena to be "reborn". Sundays boss title is "embryo of Philosophy sunday" so maybe sunday was a means to an end.
Take the biggest W man
Enas eye looks exactly like aventurines 🤔
you cooked
Always thought this aeon was the coolest but I do see the similarities now❤
Maybe Sunday is the emanator of order and Robyn is the emanator of harmony?
It's all leading to the birth of a triple emanator ... 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
I think we will gain more plot twist if Xipe descends as Sunday said. I found something like this "Opposers of Harmony argue that the Harmonic Strings are nothing short of the Emanators of Xipe - These do not follow any specific mortal but are facets of Xipe, and can assume the form of any Family member when necessary."
But one think I can't figure out. It's like in Penacony are 2 fraction Dreamjolt Troupe - robotic monster probably from the Watchmaker who goes to Harmony side and Memory Zone Meme - memetic being from Enigmata. So we have a lot question who is bad who good, who real who not?
Coming back after 2.2 story 😅
Regarding if fallen Aeons can exist in the dreamscape, they can exist in the SU which is kinda similar so maybe?
I just waiting for Freddy Krueger to pop up. That bird is always there important moments.
It kinda reminds me of Sheogorath and Jyggalag.
Actually Xipe pronounced as 'shippay'
Emanator of Foresight spoketh
I never trusted the family, but still dont understand why did robin ended like that also why the brother reacted like that. Maybe they are sacrifices ?🔥
I wouldn't put it pass Sunday beong the final boss of Penacony he just gives too much unsettling vibes.
I don’t see the ena part leaks has musical notes etc looks just like harmony
The only think I wonder if he will be playable. I'd definetly pull the guy.
Well well well
Xipe pronounced like She-peh with emphasis on the first syllable
My opinion on who is the villain it’s either Sunday or Gallagher
That raven is just Oz Dw.
All carrect that's what only happened
I think Xipe's name is pronounced 'shee-pay' but I may be wrong. Hoyo pronounces the 'Xi' like a 'sh' like in Xianyun, Xiangling, etc.
The real question here is whether Sunday will be playable or am I saving for nothing 😭
Yeah lol
Dead might as well pull for robin
Why do the eyes look exactly like Aventurine's?
What of they merged like a coin 2 sides 1 being
I am so sad.
I was really hoping Sunday would not be the true villain.
Since now we probably won't be getting him as a playable character. And I really do want him...
Woah. Holyshit
There was also something welt said
“Aeons can only operate according to their Primum Mobile. For example, we won’t ever have to worry about Harmony stirring up a storm”
If Sunday is boss only, then it's Cocolia flashbacks.
Well
Wait, there is an Aeon called A-nus?
As a note: Xipe = SHEE-pay. As in, the Aztec god Xipe Totec.
Hey…..U should look in to bell boy!!!!
But why you gotta butcher the names like Shaip, Eenuh, Penaconeh 😫
I hope Sunday is gonna be Playable❤
Too bad
Do you think aeons can be playable? Like if emanators are playable who are blessed by an aeon. It's not that they are concepts only, they have given characteristics and their own illustrations, that would be so cool.
Edit: Also, unlike Genshin, even after playing HSR for a long time, I don't seem to understand the end goal, like yea, we are going from planet to planet and resolving internal issues but what is the goal of the journey, to ascend to aeonhood or just hop onto one after another endlessly.
It is to form an alliance strong enough to aid the Trailblazer in their fight with Nanook foreshadowed by Elio.
@@RetroApo you can fight and defeat an aeon, but you can't fight with the concept of "destruction", why they are even forming an alliance to fight with the concept?
@@jinx3709 To me it's only to defeat them not to erase the path they have opened.
How
No fucking way
I hope Gallagher actually becomes an interesting character and not just for shock culture
Almost every character in penacony gives me trust issues for most characters in honkai 💀
3:43 wait so he manipulated his sister so she can keep singing?? I’m starting to feel like he doesn’t even care about her smh…
Yeah He’s just using her
@@Dante_Kun no he isn't lol
@@desiredsweets he uses her as sex toy
@@Dante_Kun wtf
How the heck does Gallagher has the traits of 52 others? Is he not a human ?
Follower of Enigmata.
if he was, then its just like cocolia and thats stupid since its almost the same plot.
Lmao
Xipe is pronounced like shee-peh
Penacony = penal colony
My personal theory (Currently) is that Robin is actually the main villain of Penacony, she is the mastermind who is trying to make "Sunday's master" to lose power over the place, and instead give the power back to the Watchmaker (No idea how she would relate with Enigmata lol).
My only justification for this is that
1_A family sibling fight is one of the most exploted plots in fiction, Robin following Enigmata while Sunday is full harmony team would be interasting.
2_Her "death" is the main event of Penacony, Sunday reacts the way he does all because he belives his sister was killed by the meme and that she can't come back, which in turn made all the events in 2.1.
3_If she is working with Gallagher, then it would explain how he was able to perfectly enter the family without anyone noticing, it really was a attack from *inside* the family.
I do belive my theory lacks some explanations, but I'm sticking to it for the moment.
i always thought that it would be a great twist if robin turned ut to be the villain
@@dana6434
Well its a stupid theory for a reason
@@kelvinyeo9165 why? i like the way robin turned out, but it would be a great twist.
manipulator brother and innocent sister is kind of boring to me, and hyv already used this trope in genshin
@dana6434
It's unlikely to happen. it doesn't make sense after 2.2 story
Oh well, it's my opinion and no cares about that sya
@@kelvinyeo9165 I mean, the point of the theory is that it was done *before* 2.2, when we didn't actually know Robin's personality 😅
I like how the story turned out, I was able to predict it was "Harmony vs Order", but I belived so strongly that Xipe had to be the bad guy that I though it could be an interesting twist, after all, order by itself is not bad, just like harmony, the abuse of those concepts is the real problem, so I like how 2.2 presented this problem.