HOW TO BEAT -30° WHEN WINTER CAMPING (no hot tent)
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The single most valuable thing you professional hikers-UA-camrs can do is to share your mistakes. Really decreases the risk that the rest of do them, and more importantly, it makes us more aware of the risks and dangers. Tnx a million!
Well put.
Thanks for being candid and sharing your mistakes. Your authenticity is what keeps me coming back you your channel.
Well done for showing your boo-boo's - respect. Stay safe
Suggestions - bring a 2.5L or bigger pot to melt snow. Takes 7-8L of dry snow to get a liter of water (snow contains a bunch of air). You need to melt a bunch of snow in the morning. Enough for breakfast and a hot drink plus 2L to drink on trail. You’re not going to want to melt snow after you start the hike for the day. Small pots waste gas.
Water doesn’t have to boil to make it safe to drink. About 180 degrees F is hot enough to kill everything. You can tell this by the bubbles forming on the bottom of the pot (fish eyes).
Designate a pee area at camp.
Don’t burn your water. If you put snow into a dry pot or too much snow into the pot it will give the water a burnt taste. Add a 1/2 liter of water to the pot 1st and then add a little snow at a time and let that melt. You can add more amounts when the water in the pot gets greater.
Take an avalanche course. It may save your life.
Hard to melt snow without a fire... That is why Justin didn't have enough water, because he was planning to melt snow, but couldn't get his gas burner to work. And it would be illegal for him to start a wood fire where he was camping.
I have a spoon with Whisperlite wrenches in the handle, in case you have to change the jet or disassemble the fuel pump.
Wait was this during last weeks arctic snow storm? Bro you crazy. Me and a buddy went ice fishing up in granby for 3 days 2 nights and we were freaking scared for our lives. We were only half a mile away from the car in a insulated tent, with a heater, 20lbs of propane to keep us warm and weeks worth of food and we were shitting ourselves. It was so windy we woke up the next morning and you couldn't see 5 feet in front of you. Wasn't even that it snowed hard the wind was just pushing it around making it look like a blizzard. Honestly thought we'd have to abandon our gear and rely on our phones map to navigate the storm. Definitely bringing a map and compass next time cause we barely even had enough signal to get that to work
I also went out camping when it was hitting -35 all because of you. Thanks Justin for the education, tips and awesome videos.
I roll with an alcohol stove in the winter with a good windscreen. No moving parts and you can still boil in around 8 minutes. Good video dude
Yes! Plus, I carry a pound or so of wood sticks for a small fire in the stove. Really blows people's minds to see that 1000 feet above the treeline on a glacier...
I dig the quick one nighter to test/prep before a big trip. nothing better than real life experience vs planning at your house. also, sounds like we finally have a xtherm rival. very cool
Not testing your gear before taking it on an adventure is a rookie mistake. I'd rather have my gear fail me at home vs failing when I need it. Tested the klymit static V after reading their claims of it having a 4.2 R value at home in my backyard and no. It was nowhere close. I guessed it was around 2.0 and like a year later it gets an official astm rating of 1.9 or something. Glad I never took it Winter camping. My friend also used to think like that till he tried using his Mr. Heater buddy on an ice fishing trip only to realize it was leaking. And as we saw here my guy didn't test his stove and ended up hungry and thirsty for it. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail
the Klymit Static V is the ultimate rookie mistake. speaking as someone who also bought it and froze 🤣🤣@@xvaldez3284
I would love to see a follow video on white gas stoves from you. It would be interesting to see how you went about troubleshooting this.
I forget things all the time. I've learnt that for me having little packs of gear means that I don't forget items. I check each little pack to make sure it's complete.
I loved the Video. Glad you share with us when you make mistakes or things go wrong. It happens to all of us and seeing how you overcome them helps us all learn!!
Look into the optimus polaris multi-fuel stove. You can switch between canister and white gas without using any tools. Also, you do not need to switch out needle jets when switching fuels, either. The pump is an all metal design as well. 😊
My first trip with my Whisperlite I tested it at home, ran flawlessly. Went to light it the first night of my camping trip below freezing and it wouldn't light. Come to find out I had soot buildup on the jet and the Shaker didn't clear it. Always good to do a shakedown with new equipment
Consider using the arctic fuel pump when it's really cold. I had so much trouble leaking white gas because the seals froze. Also I recently had a botched Wintercamping experience. Everything has to be done extremely careful.
Yea, a winter camping video! Good you did a shakedown trip, it's helpful to get the mind back in the zone.
Another great video I'm glad that your stove problem wasn't as bad as it could have been. I've got a winter trip coming up next month February in the Smoky mountains I'm looking forward to.
I was just looking at that tent last night. Perfect timing for some legit, real-world feedback! Another epic trek. Thanks for sharing it with us and for everything you give back to the community. It’s very much appreciated enjoyed.
Great video Justin! That is a heck of load you have there! Love the channels and all that you do, keep up the good work. Thanks Justin!
Love the video. Great mix of adventure and information!!
Hi i dont camp now but like to watch your videos. Always thought that you are perfect in all aspects of winter camping. And never considered that i can do it. But watching this video i am inspired to try it. Luckly it isint as cold as your environment, so i thought i give it a tray. With mostly summer gear but 500 meters from my cabin. Just to test out my ideas about turning summer gear into winter gear. Have a nice trip.
Thanks for the nice videos they always inspire me
Love your videos Justin. You are an outdoor rockstar. 👍👍👍
Great video and love all your work! Congratulations on your marriage! You two make a great couple!!!
Nice video and advice 👍❄️🥶
One of my new favorite videos man! Thats some beautiful scenery there! And you know how to enjoy it!! Tell me about the hat you were wearing on the trek in?? Great video!!!
So is there any reason to buy the all season over the extreme with only 3oz difference. Seems like making pads that get a high r rating based on the lab conditions is a thing. Seems like the only difference is 2 extra layers of space blanket in the middle
Great video my man. I just picked up one of those stoves and so it's good to know that I should really play around with it a bunch before I take it out. Also, it's nice knowing that there's a competitor for the xtherm out there. I might need to get one.
You should check out the Helsport Spitsbergen X-Trem and the Helsport Svalbard sleeping bags. They're top end sleeping bags for really cold expeditions. They're comfort rated at -32 degrees and -29 degrees Celsius, respectively (-25.6 and -20.2 degrees Fahrenheit). And a T-Lim at -45C for the Spitsbergen bag and -40C for the Svalbard bag!
I’m really liking pack wizard it’s very fun to use.
Always have some type of multi tool. There are some very good options that do not add a lot of weight. As you found out in a most unfortunate time. But a very sincere thank you for sharing, a lesser man may have glazed over it. The Gerber DIME is small but very functional. Good luck on that upcoming trip. Stay safe and hike on.
Wow, that's cold! We had 15F last weekend and i thought that was cold enough, haha. A couple thoughts: 1- Are fires provided in that area? Seems that would have solved the stove problem for the night. 2- How about using a candle lantern to solve the condensation problem? It works pretty well for me.
13:00 That tent looks very very similar to BlackDimond's Ahwahnee tent, other than the poles are on the inside in the Ahwahnee.
J Money G! Wow. What a learning experience, right? And you're spot on that this could have been pretty scary, had it not just been an overnighter. Sometimes we need to fail a bit to reset our thought processes. Refocus. Learn. Glad you made it OK and as always, looking forward to the next one. Hike On, my man!
Sorry to hear about the stove issue. I've been caught a couple of times on winter camping trips that would have been nice to have tools to fix winter gear. Wonder what tools you would have brought with you?
Love the tent. Pricy but ace. They are available as „re-used“ , refurbished by the manufacturer and as good as new. Found some on the interwebs for around 700€ in Germany
Hi Justin, I love your videos, I look to you as my cold weather expert......I have a question that I have never heard asked and since I do not have a lot of experience backpacking in snow........most of the trails I hike on are pretty gnarly.....roots, rocks, narrow places with drop offs........How do you follow the trail and keep from deviating off the trail when it snows and covers the trail.....?
White gas stoves definitely are not as convenient! I use the Svea 123R as my go to for winter trips and find it to be the most reliable/easy to use but not nearly as efficient as the whisper light. Used it down to -27F but it takes twice as long (maybe more) to melt snow/you have to prime it 2 or 3 times when it is super cold.
Even though you don't bring a hot tent, the gear you bring is sufficient to keep your body warm in a small tent. Everything requires skill and experience, extraordinary
Love the content, curious what ski poles your using ?
I'm wondering if all mentioned issues with Nemo mat are fixed with production unit, maybe same thing happened with Big Agnes Zoom UL.
Super interesting video. I've looked at Samaya Assaut 2 Ultra and Radical1 (too small for me) tents in stores and they look really interesting. Supposed to have breathable Dyneema. Not sure about the exact specs on your tent but it looks similar basic design. I've used similar design (BD) year round (not down to -30 though) and it handled heavy snow load quite well. The BD tents have the poles inside which simplifies design somewhat, but condensation on the poles is unavoidable in cold weather. IMO the poles in sleeves outside is a clear advantage for condensation in cold weather.
I love the simplicity of canister stoves, but I also love white gas stoves that just work in any conditions. The coldest I've used my Whisperlite is around -15 C and no problem there, but it'll be interesting to see how it handles really cold on your longer trip.
Great set up and what a setting. Love the look of the Samaya 2.0, had it out in high winds yet? Do you rate it?
Justin, I'm trying to figure out how you got those shots at @1:55 where it looks like you put the camera ahead of you but there are no tracks. Magic!
Well, you've now learnt when using unfamiliar gear to test and try it at home before going bush. I pre run my stoves before leaving just to check it all works as it should.
Think I saw the nalgene branded zip top insulated cozy... Has that been outperforming the Liberty Mountain cozy?
I'm curious at such low temperatures did you have things to start a fire as a backup to the stove?
...cool video keep up the great content.. Thank you…
I started useing white gas on my last trip. Didnt test before i went out but everything worked out and im loving it haha
Definitely a learning curve, but they can be very reliable once you know them.
always carry a multitool!
Homie I’ve been watching your videos for years now and you are very experienced so I don’t mean any disrespect. But you gotta have backups for fire and a metal cup to boil in case your stove doesn’t work. At least carry one esbit cube in your first aid or learn to start a fire with wood around you. A small fixed blade can process enough wood for a small fire that could boil water. You gotta be prepared your life depends on it out there.
I had fire for backup. It is illegal in the park, so I only would have used it in an emergency. That trip was far from an emergency.
I have an important question. Why dont you use a liquid alcohol or gas stove. A little one. Or i dont know there are solid fuels and you can burn them. There is no chance to break or install them wrong. I dont know anything about this topic. Just guessing and wondering.
Do you have a video just about skis?
I got the same Jacket, and I like it. But with the same style like yours handgloves, I try to have minimum distance to a crab cutter or shrimp- restaurant.
I hope the nemo works out, i struggle on the thermarest being comfortable... but its Only thing ive had luck with below 5F...
why no ferro rod and a starter? looks like lots of tree branches for a small fire? Great video!
Have you ever tried out a fishnet mesh baselayer? You should and make a video what you think about it.. it's meant to be great!(?) I'm going to try it out, but not good at making review videos, because I don't have time for researching nor english to explain all the stuff 🙈 but I'd love to hear your opinion about them
I have the same jacket, the best for that price 👌
Try to avoid minus 50 if at all possible is very good advice 😂😂😂. But seriously a QQ when you are in a situation that you get stuck in bad conditions or your body just gives out, is it OK to set up your tent right off trail rather than making it to the intended campsite? Sorry you had such a rough time. Thx for advice.
You can get a re-use vestibule for that tent for a very reasonable cost from Samaya
hi there - thx for the review - how would you judge the EXPED DURA 8 R LW camparing both inflatable mats?
As a Canadian living in France, that was cool to see you using the Samaya. Curious why you didn't melt snow when you were low on water? Cheers.
Because he didn't have a stove that worked.
@@musingwithreba9667oh poor guy! I went back to that part again, missed it the first viewing.
I did exactly this last weekend! Had planned to melt snow for water but my stove couldn’t cut it in the cold. What a learning experience! Turned a 3 day into a 2 day, but was still fun. Was my first winter backpacking trip so everything is an experiment! I’m still alive 😂
A liquid fuel stove, that works is a MUST for more than 1 night out in sub zero weather. Did you determine what needs to be fixed/changed with your liquid fuel stove?
@@azclaimjumper yes, I determined that I need a liquid fuel stove, and to not somehow lose one of my water bottles! luckily it was just above freezing when I set up camp so I could make some food, hot chocolate and about half a bottle's worth of water. I did need to wrap up the isobutane cannister with some hand warmers to avoid it getting too cold while being used. In the morning I found a spring on the way out. That was a huge relief.
@@i_like_hike I cut the toe portion of an old thick wool sock off the worn out sock. I then cut a hole in the toe tip which allows me to pull it over the fuel canister. The sock around & under the bottom of the canister prevents moisture from condensing on the canister exterior when heating something + it is more comfortable to have the sock wrapped canister next to my body when inside my sleeping bag - than the bare metal of the canister.
Let me know when you do this lil trick - it works.
@@azclaimjumper will do, thanks for the help! i was definitely struggling trying to wrap a small towel around it with the hand warmers while not moving it too much. this sounds much more manageable.
@@i_like_hike It's a lil trick that should be printed on each canister exterior. I have & use a Soto Windmaster & 4-plex pot holder as my canister stove, how about you? You want the sock to cling to the sides of the canister so if you wear a big sock, try to find a smaller size, my foot & sock are small.
Can only imagine how frustrating it must have been to realize that you weren’t able to melt snow and have a warm meal. I always bring the MSR Reactor along with the white gas stove. But I understand that you can’t double up when carrying everything in a backpack ☺️
Do you have any recommendations for a packable down overpant with full side zips?
Justin, you can show me a video of you clearing a foot of snow off a picnic table every time and I'll enjoy it every time! I wish I had that kind of snow to play in in Ohio...
It’s impossible to carry enough tools to deal with every scenario. You were covered through your whole plan based on your wealth of experience. Good job.
3:30; I like the carry method of keeping water warm in a bladder.
Nothing to be embarrassed about in my mind. Good that you planned & used this trip as a test prior to your longer 4 day/night trip with others.
Especially good to have found out what you additionally need to do to get that Whisperlite stove to work in the cold with white gas.
I'm somewhat surprised you went with a non-Hilleberg tent considering the truly cold temperatures. You still don't know how your tent will deal with -30ºC AND snow loading AND strong gusty winds - for myself, I want a Hilleberg shelter for the winter weather conditions you may encounter on your outing with others. Won't they be carrying/using Hilleberg shelters?
Am looking forward to your final review/comparison/evaluation between the Tensor Extreme & the XTherm NXT. Yes, I know the Tensor has a supposedly higher R value.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
A Hilleberg tent would be at least twice the weight, even three times if you want a two person expedition class ones. I considered the Unna (which is fairly similar to the Samaya) for a PCT thruhike, but it was just too heavy. Of course a double wall Hilleberg or similar would be nice, but everything is a tradeoff. I've just seen Samaya tents in stores so far, but they look super interesting and cant see why they shouldn't handle winter camping.
@@frstesiste7670 Agreed, Hilleberg tents are heavier than most tents of comparative size. However, Hilleberg tents are truly 5-Star Shelters when Mother Nature turns nasty windy, cold, or snow loaded.
I, personally, consider my Hilleberg Enan which Hilleberg rates as a so-called 3-Season tent, a 4-season tent for the winter weather I experience/face up in the High Sierras. I can always count on strong gusty winds at night in all 4-seasons.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Nothing against Hilleberg tents btw. I own one myself and bring it when it's appropriate for the type of trip.
@@frstesiste7670 Agreed.
Black diamonds el dorado tent is just hands down the best single wall tent Iv ever owned that doesn’t get condensation. Too bad they stopped making them RIP elderado!
Way to go #nemo for testing, listening, and investigating
Really trippy how your poles messed with the camera in the first few seconds haha 00:50
It was -20 in my backyard last weekend. I thought it's kinda funny it was just as cold here as in the Canadian rockies.
Just for grins, and to test out my own gear, I tried sleeping outside in it. I have an old REI Trekker 1.75 pad that I put on top of an even older Thermarest foam pad. I slept in a Feathered Friends Widgeon -10 bag, inside a Onetrigris 4-season tent I just bought. It was a surprisingly cozy night, except for the frost that kept dusting me in the face every time I bumped the tent. My only gripe was the Widgeon is cut fairly narrow, which made it a little hard to sleep on my side. I think I'm going to go for a wider bag when it comes time to camp for reals.
We’ve all been there at one time or another, when the best laid plans just can’t seem to come together.
Congratulations to you and Stephie on your marriage!
Hindsight 20/20 comment.. No fire making? So long as you had a lighter you were still good..altho maybe after such a treck you might have been too tired to get firewood .... feel your pain on forgetting stuff tho... even with a list.. been there for sure
Fire is illegal in that part of the park.
now that's snow! we get a winter storm and everyone panics and closes and we will get 2-3 inches.
What’s the trek pole brand?
Just put your gas canister in a winter sock (which is a bit warmer) and use it with a regular stove in the same way as in summer
Bro try the xped sleeping pad
My LL Bean -20 F. bag will PROBABLY be OK at -30 F. if I wear my light down jacket and down pants inside the bag AND sleep inside a tent on an R 5.3 mattress with a RIDGEREST closed cell foam mattress beneath.
Interesting that -40 is where Calcius and Fahrenheit meet. I've experienced -40 only once,, not camping but Nordic (XC) ski patrolling at the 1979 Pre-Olympics World Cup games in Lake Placid, NY. The'80 Olympics were "normal" winter temps with NOT ENOUGH SNOW. All the XC trails had to have man made snow trucked in!
Why did you not start a fire and melt/cook that way? Not permited?
why you didnt just burn some dry sticks just for water?
Are you not allowed to have fires? I would have just made a very small fire to boil water and eat especially with encroaching temps like that.
Exactly. Not allowed to have fires
@@JustinOutdoors thats unfortunate
They say that the hot stove teaches best. In this case, it's the opposite. One time I forgot my entire pack. Try topping that! Luckily it was only a day trip.
Steve wallis knows the correct "Step 2"
Skis and/or white gas stoves means a small leatherman in the repair kit. ALWAYS.
Why didn't you just melt some snow?
Congratulations to you and your bride! I hope the car started for you after the hiccups the rest of the trip..
Maybe that waterproof jacket is not best for heavy exercise?
At minus 40....fahrenheit and celsius ........are the same.........just plain old cold.....
I had this feeling that Kane was talking about you when he did those testing videos in anticipation of this trip. I'm stoked to see the both of you on a trip together again!
Doh, stove failure! 😩
You just know the xtherm is going to perform better.
Get a girlfriend and tell her it's ok to invite her sister along for the weekend - PRICELESS!
My wife would not be happy with that
@@JustinOutdoors Oops, I didn't know that. I'll take my tongue out of my cheek altogether then.
Melt snow without a stove?
Oh, the plans of mice and men...
Well, that could have been a potentially deadly trip, and could have got you featured on an episode of Kyle Hates Hiking 😉
Sucks you didn't have the correct stove setup. I have the Whisperlite stove too. I love it when it works, but hate it when it doesn’t 😂 Last winter trip I took it out on was a hot tent trip, it decided it didn’t feel like lighting, so I just cooked on the wood stove. If I'd been out cold tenting, I'd have been miserable.
I'm not sure if I'm jealous you actually have winter there. I'm in Toronto, where El Nino has left us with not much snow at all. I like snow, but not so much the -30C 🥶
$1495.95!!!!!??? for a 1 person tent??? Is the world crazy or is this another stanley cup craze?
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