Budget Backpacking Gear to AVOID and What to Get Instead!
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇
REI Helix Sleeping Pad: geni.us/HelixSleepingPad
Lanshan 1 Pro Tent: geni.us/Lanshan1Pro
Lunar Solo Tent: geni.us/LunarSolo
XOSkin Socks: geni.us/XOSKINS-SOCKS
Garmin InReach Messenger: geni.us/InReachMessenger
Sawyer Squeeze Filter: geni.us/SawyerSqueeze
Quickdraw Filter: geni.us/PlatyQuickDraw
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Garmin InReach Mini: geni.us/InReachMini2
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REI Flash 55 Pack: geni.us/Flash55
Enlightened Equipment Enigma Quilt: geni.us/enigmadown
Garmin Fenix Watch: geni.us/FenixWatch
Lanshan 1 Pro Tent: geni.us/Lanshan1Pro
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👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇
REI Helix Sleeping Pad: geni.us/HelixSleepingPad
Lanshan 1 Pro Tent: geni.us/Lanshan1Pro
Lunar Solo Tent: geni.us/LunarSolo
XOSkin Socks: geni.us/XOSKINS-SOCKS
Garmin InReach Messenger: geni.us/InReachMessenger
Sawyer Squeeze Filter: geni.us/SawyerSqueeze
Quickdraw Filter: geni.us/PlatyQuickDraw
Bud, this isn't the video you want it to be. You compare the cheapest walmart tent to a $200 tent. Maybe compare it to a river country products (usually $60 to 80) or a naturehike ($80) or paria outdoors ($100-120). Same with sleeping pads. A klymit pad or paria outdoors pad, there's affordable good gear (sub $100 or even $50) that can be had that lasts and is durable.
@@matthewscoggins8668 it’s good to give feedback like this, but he has his reasons for what he chose. Watching his entire UA-cam channel and podcasts have taken me inside his brain and how detailed he is. What I’m saying is, he has good reasons for everything he decides to talk about and compare to. You’re kinda splitting hairs on topics. Comparing cheap to cheaper wouldn’t provide any utility for those beginners who need the exposure and rationale to the intermediate level gear that they wouldn’t know about and consider without the video.
The truth about budget gear is that it’s a better investment, for those of us on a tight budget, to buy used gear of high quality. I have had great luck doing this. I would always recommend doing a thorough examination of the used item before purchasing though (like if it’s a tent, set it up).
Used is very often the best route
I’m always looking at the discontinued stuff. Like I just bought 2 sleeping pads from outdoor vitals for my kids. I got them for like $50 each. Probably not the most comfortable, or the warmest, but pretty decent pad for pretty cheap….and my kids are little. They can sleep on anything.
The problem with that is people are asking way too much for their good stuff (like $20 less than retail), and that's if you even find good stuff, 90% of people are selling heavy old bulky stuff. You really have to scour to find any semblance of a good deal.
I used that exact model $30 Ozark Trail 1-person tent from Wal-Mart!…for a New Years overnight backpacking trip on Mt. Cheaha in Alabama. I had a 1-2 night trip planned with my longtime hiking buddy who lives in Georgia. He always lets me borrow one of his tents. So, I had dragged along a large suitcase full of my backpacking gear, minus a tent, across the country in anticipation of that trip. Then, he and his family caught Covid (they recovered well). But, I was determined to get out there. So, I decided to buy that cheap tent and go for it. The low temp was 24°F and the wind gusts were about 25-30 MPH at times. But, it stood…at least for that night. I would not trust it for harsher conditions (especially with that open gap on the rainfly for the door). No way to batten down the hatches. I gave it to my young niece afterwards.
Great example! Better to get out there and gain experience than be constantly worried about having the best gear first.
I have 3 of the older orange versions. Great cheap car camping tents. Good for kids. Ours were $17 on sale.
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Yeah, as I mentioned, I gave mine to my young niece who is outdoorsy like her aunt. ;)
I figure that even if bad weather gets the best of it, she’ll have adults with her to keep her safe.
The water filters, I think that can really be summed up by: "buy known, name brand. Not misc. knockoffs." I have the non-knockoff version of that pump style (Survival Filter Pro) and it has served me well over many trips over the past 4 years.
Great Job! I first heard of geartrade when my sister bought a nature hike tent years ago. I recently bought my six moons designs pack from him, the advice you get via email and text is great, and the range of cottage brand products they have grown to carry is amazing! Loved the tour and seeing some of the little accessory products. Great conversation and really enjoyable!
Ive had 3 defective Quick Draw filters with 1 liter per hour flow rates out of the box. I would avoid unless you thoroughly test before leaving on a trip. No issues with Sawyer or Katdyn filters as long as stored correctly and cleaned/backflushed after trips
Literally watching this in the backcountry with a lunar solo and a helix 😂
I hope another company copies the Defy design. It's perfectly minimalist, and after removing the webbing and such it only weighs 57.6g. I was able to easily attached it to the shoulder strap of my running vest and I found the battery life to be really good. The form factor is just perfect, and frankly, kinda next level when it comes to these sorts of devices.
I have that Ozark tent, and I agree with you for the most part, it works well for me down here in Texas and since where I backpack is very wooded, I do not have to worry about wind so much. Also only go in cold down to 40 to 50 F. But defiantly going to upgrade once I start backpacking in harsher climates. I did dich the bag and the pegs and went with lighter options which saved me about 7oz.
I have a 3ful gear Lanshan 2 with 4 season inner (UK) & the Naturehike cloudpeak 2. I love them both & they serve me well. Lanshan is for multiday hikes/ok weather. Cloudpeak is for unpredictable /mountainish/ stormy weather. Had my 👁 on the zpacks duplex (blue or green)🩵💚 for a long time! Way out of my budget range, who knows maybe one day 😊🌲🏕
Bullitt has provided no notice to customers and has disabled its contact information. Considering this is a life-affecting product, expect multiple lawsuits in the next weeks. Unbelievable.
I was looking at this option last year 😮 It's the only thing I'm missing from my Backpacking gear. Just can't afford the other options. 😢
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That $10 pad looks like it might be good for summer camping in a hammock where the primary need is to shield you from the wind. Especially if it weighs about the same or less than a 50° underquilt.
I've got a Paria Outdoors Arches 1P tent. $150 and lots of room for a 1 person tent. (90x36 footprint) with a lifetime warranty. Need ed to do a couple mods on the older models like changing out the guylines for a thicker cord and adding shock cord to the groundcloth, but I hear that they have corrected that. For the few times I tent camp instead of hammock camp, I really like it.
One type of tent you should avoid are tents that require the main body to be set up BEFORE adding the fly. Imagine how wet this part will get while setting up or taking downing the rain. Tarptent designs avoid this problem, as do Dan Durston tents.
GOOD info on the air mattresses (as opposed to foam filled mattresses).
Thanks! for making videos about stuff that we casuals are actually able to afford!
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Mongar 2 by nature hike is my recommendation for a cheap light tent!
Ya! The Mongar 2 is a really solid option too!
I saw in one of your previous videos that the Nemo tenor extreme was sleeping cold for you do you think I should get this pad or should I get a the Neo air?
Will there be a review of the 2024 Big Agnes Rapid SL coming soon?
That tent is actually decently waterproof, I've seen it tested on another channel . Long term durability is questionable but there are worse tents that cost more.
Super bummed about the defy, I was looking forward to it being available in Canada.
I was really bummed to have heard about Bullitt and the Defy, I had just decided to get one for an upcoming trip when I saw the news from TheHikingGuy. It looks like I’ll be trying to justify the jump to the inReach Mini 2 at this point.
Have you heard anything about ThermaRest discontinuing the Uberlite?
I have issues with most of the water purifiers available now including the Sawyer. Many only have hollow fiber at 0.01u which filters out bacteria, protozoa and some viruses which is fine if you are in the mountains but if you are hiking in the plains and foothills you can run into heavy metals, pesticides, asbestos, chloroform, formaldehyde which can come from agriculture, and mining. These are not removed by hollow fiber but require active charcoal along with KDF, or Zeolite or a cation and anion exchange resins. For example, the Grayl uses two layers of block active carbon bonded one with a cation and the other an anion resin. The grayl has a 0.1u filter which will take care of bacteria and protozoa but not viruses and the charcoal with ion exchange takes care of the heavy metals, pesticides and other contaminates. But the grayl has a limited capacity and is rather costly. Life straw has some options with active charcoal but lack the KDF for a full spectrum filter. On Amazon you can get the BKLES filter which has the hollow fibre, active charcoal and kdf.
Just as an FYI, the Sawyer squeeze and such are filters but not purifiers. Purifiers (like Grayl) will deal with a lot of the chemicals you mention. And I 100% agree that it's important to bring the right sort of wAter treatment for the type of conditions you're going to encounter. Could get in a big pickle otherwise!
You might be interested in Gear Skeptics UA-cam videos on this subject. If you haven’t seen his multi-part series on water treatment, I highly recommend. A hybrid solution of filters and purification is the way to go in the risky areas you mention.
That big Toe needs its own show.
Well, I have a cheap Aliexpress filter for 4 years now and I can't complain at all...
Does anyone know of a pad that's available in the UK for not too much money but with a good r value and lighter than 600g?
Darn tough socks are best for backpacking...and they have a lifetime guarantee
Cheap gear also becomes garbage, so do your research and help reduce your footprint by getting something that will last. Even if you upgrade something, the original gear can become your car camping or loaner kit if it's good quality. 👌
Just curious why a Cdn is recommending REI gear instead of MEC or offerings from VPO. Is it a target audience thing or genuine product preference. No judegdment at all, just wondering if MEC products have been tried vs REI. 😊
Product preference
Or how about mentioning the Canadian company “GearTrade”, which is fast becoming like GGG!
@@pattycameron9730 true!! Just discovered them myself and will be ordering a couple of items soon. 🇨🇦
Nemo Ul is about 80$..... 2/9/24
Let’s see what not to buy
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Lol not the helix again
Recommending a $160 pad as the affordable option to someone considering a $10 pad is borderline insulting. When I first started backpacking I used a $40 Sleepingo, and it served me well for a year before upgrading to an XLite. I still recommend it to anyone looking for a truly affordable inflatable pad (if you can get a cheap Klymit, even better).
If you find it on sale, it's a reasonable price for a pad that will be comfortable and warm. Those amazon pads, even the more expensive ones, just aren't insulated well enough for anything but summer use. The pad goes on sale for $100-$120 a lot, and if you're looking for a pad cheaper than that you'll need to buy used to get anything decent.
@@dustyoldhatthe Helix is a super comfortable pad and sleeps warm for the r value. It's the most comfortable pad I own ( I have 9 pads). Honestly worth the weight for me personally.
Your suggestion on a $40 Sleepingo or a $50 Klymit is a much more reasonable price level/comfort ratio for a first trip, with the caveat to avoid temperatures below 40F degrees or sleeping on snow/frozen ground (both of which may be too daunting for a first timer’s plan).
@@memathews if you're just planning to use gear once, renting it is a much better than buying subpar gear.
@@RayHikes I agree that renting is a better choice, but only when rental is available and that's not the case in all locations. The ideal is a friend willing to share to get a friend started in hiking and backpacking, but that is also not always available.
The REI helix is Goated, I am picky af and it’s worth it, if you’re 6’2” the long wide size is dope af.
No one does it better then you