The British used a plane so slow, it defeated the AA batteries because they couldn't lead it for hits and the Fairly Swordfish dropped its tin fish and disabled the Bismarck 😏👍 Obsolete doesn't matter with skill.
Swordfish did the jobs we now do with helicopters. It was a heavy lift STOL. The only machine then capable of operating from carrier decks heaving over Atlantic ocean swells.
The Finnish buffalo was not the same plane the British and the yanks flew. It was much lighter as the Finns stripped everything unnessary to fighting out of it. They had better trained pilots too. The yanks and the English considered Pearl and Singapore a holiday resort. Training was rudimentary. Racism prevailed.
I learned long ago to ignore the film clips on any of the "Dark" episodes. I just folow the writing and narration; and I thought this one was rather good from that perspective.
Yeah, because there's obviously _hours_ of footage available of Fokker D-XXIs in Finnish markings, dogfighting during the Winter War, along with gun camera film of I-16s going down over snowy forests, right? Crazy that this channel didn't make use of it. 🙄
I always like this channel and different pilot doc but the different clips of me 262 and me 163 that has nothing to do with finish pilots, there is tons of finish air war clips
Well, my granpa hold his liqouer and told me that they had plywood and hairdryers so one day after heavy drinking they had this crazy idea "What if we put these hairdryers on a kite and use them like scarecrow to scare russians away?" and so some germans saw it and took it to germany, and name it me163......
The Fokker D21 not bothering to build more than 200+? There was that minor issue of the Netherlands being invaded. The aircraft was in fact a quantum leap for dutch aviation and Had considerable foreign interest. The maligned Brewster was also free of the performance killing armor, naval survival gear that crippled USN service. Pappy Boyington wrote about this and described The early version ‘ a sweetheart to fly.’
Why is it, with so many planes designed during this time, did they not think to specify that all test planes must carry 2000kg of inert ballast, to allow for the onslaught of equipment and armour everyone knew was to follow?
Very good video. I am conflicted about this conflict. First of all, Brewster Buffaloes in Finland? Wow, the power of American exports! Superb pilot! I had never heard of him. Of course Russia invading Finland was terrible, so i am glad that they had to end that part of the war. Overall I support the Russian people fighting Germany’s invasion of Russia. Now if only today Russia would quit invading the Ukraine. Over the course of history it is remarkable how alliances switch. Eg. England/France…Italy/Germany…USA/Japan plus too many more to mention.
War= Money=More war= More money, on and on and on. Who cares who you align with, the equation remains the same. American economy requires a revolving cycle of war.
Juutilainen stayed on his tail, maintaining a steady aim despite his outdated plane’s limitations. Another burst of gunfire tore through the Soviet fighter’s fuselage. Flames erupted from the engine, and the I-16 began a desperate spiral toward the snowy ground below.
The Finns had there guns fixed to converge closer to the enemy plane so that they score more hits but it also meant they had to get in closer to the enemy plane. 250 yards was the normal for brits and yanks was
Okay, how did a German Messerschmitt Me-163 Komet, Me-262 Schwalbe, and a British Supermarine Spitfire get into this conflict? Not to mention the Fokkers with the Dutch triangles, the American Boeing B-17s, and Consolidated B-24s . . . accuracy doesn't seem to be a strong point here.
Almost all the initial footage of Finnish aircraft was of Brewster Buffalos, not the Fokker. Then there were Me-163 rocket planes, Stukas, Spitfires, Hurricanes....a veritable encyclopedia of WW2 aircraft, most of which never flew in Finland
Not quite, much of the the "D XXI" footage (like at 12 secs) shows North American Harvards (Texan) belonging to the Royal Dutch Airforce Historical flight (which isnt part of the airforce) at Gilze Rijen Air Base that were modified to represent the D XXI in the movie "Soldaat van Oranje" . They also flew, in a different disguise , in " a bridge too far" .
The story you tell is great. But the video material you use is abominable... Even Dutch T-8 Texans trying to look like Fokker D.XXI aircraft! Also Dutch Buffaloes and Glenn Martin bombers over Malaya and the Dutch East Indies. And a Me-163 rocket plane...
@@Franky46Boy Was I giving you an answer? No. I pointing out from the perspective of a person that has posted over 300 videos and have 750 THOUSAND subs that when you offer criticism on video production quality to people like me or Dark Docs with over a MILLION subs and here you are with ...6... 6... subs and 6 no talent videos🤣...sorry, lost my train of thought. Anyway you are a joke man.
I've never heard the Brewster Buffalo spoken of in such terms. 'Sleek?' It was as sleek as a barrel.
It is amazing that the Fins were able to get excellent performance out of aircraft that the major powers considered obsolete or underpowered.
They had a thing that was Make do with what you have or die. And like the Polish air arm of the RAF, accomplished amazing stats.
The British used a plane so slow, it defeated the AA batteries because they couldn't lead it for hits and the Fairly Swordfish dropped its tin fish and disabled the Bismarck 😏👍
Obsolete doesn't matter with skill.
Swordfish did the jobs we now do with helicopters. It was a heavy lift STOL. The only machine then capable of operating from carrier decks heaving over Atlantic ocean swells.
The Russian planes weren’t that much better and there pilots definitely weren’t either.
Every Finnish WW2 story i hear tells of soldiers so efficient and ruthless they'd make liquid-metal terminators nervous
Nothing faster than a Finn on skis, on meth 😝
Excellent video. Thank you for documenting this man's history as a warrior - truly inspiring
What makes his achievement even more amazing is both the Fokker and the Buffalo had half the guns that a Hurricane or Spitfire had.
The Finnish buffalo was not the same plane the British and the yanks flew. It was much lighter as the Finns stripped everything unnessary to fighting out of it. They had better trained pilots too. The yanks and the English considered Pearl and Singapore a holiday resort. Training was rudimentary. Racism prevailed.
it does help that three of the guns were .50 Cal
@@DownUnderBlunders Yeah, and if I remember correctly on top of my head, the 30 cal was replaced by 50 cal, not totally sure.
And th3y told twice the bullshit
An Me 163 flying in the Russo-Finnish war? Extraordinary!
The docunentary is good but 90% of the clips are irrelevent show me 163 me 262 stuka and spitfires etc 😂
I learned long ago to ignore the film clips on any of the "Dark" episodes. I just folow the writing and narration; and I thought this one was rather good from that perspective.
@@MichaelSundin-ly6ptyeah, the visuals were very confusing to me.
Plus half of the time the aircraft on screen half Dutch markings!
Yeah, because there's obviously _hours_ of footage available of Fokker D-XXIs in Finnish markings, dogfighting during the Winter War, along with gun camera film of I-16s going down over snowy forests, right? Crazy that this channel didn't make use of it. 🙄
it's not the plane its the pilot
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!!
I always like this channel and different pilot doc but the different clips of me 262 and me 163 that has nothing to do with finish pilots, there is tons of finish air war clips
Well, my granpa hold his liqouer and told me that they had plywood and hairdryers so one day after heavy drinking they had this crazy idea "What if we put these hairdryers on a kite and use them like scarecrow to scare russians away?" and so some germans saw it and took it to germany, and name it me163......
The Fokker D21 not bothering to build more than 200+? There was that minor issue of the Netherlands being invaded. The aircraft was in fact a quantum leap for dutch aviation and
Had considerable foreign interest.
The maligned Brewster was also free of the performance killing armor, naval survival gear that crippled USN service. Pappy Boyington wrote about this and described
The early version ‘ a sweetheart to fly.’
Why is it, with so many planes designed during this time, did they not think to specify that all test planes must carry 2000kg of inert ballast, to allow for the onslaught of equipment and armour everyone knew was to follow?
Very good video. I am conflicted about this conflict. First of all, Brewster Buffaloes in Finland? Wow, the power of American exports! Superb pilot! I had never heard of him. Of course Russia invading Finland was terrible, so i am glad that they had to end that part of the war. Overall I support the Russian people fighting Germany’s invasion of Russia. Now if only today Russia would quit invading the Ukraine. Over the course of history it is remarkable how alliances switch. Eg. England/France…Italy/Germany…USA/Japan plus too many more to mention.
There were Buffaloes in Finland
Yeah the fins bought quite a few.
As for his claims? Sure. I seriously doubt it.
War= Money=More war= More money, on and on and on. Who cares who you align with, the equation remains the same. American economy requires a revolving cycle of war.
A 94 kill streak and didn’t even use the tactical nuke. Respect.
must've had wifi connectivity dropouts, having to rejoin lobby every morning
Juutilainen stayed on his tail, maintaining a steady aim despite his outdated plane’s limitations. Another burst of gunfire tore through the Soviet fighter’s fuselage. Flames erupted from the engine, and the I-16 began a desperate spiral toward the snowy ground below.
Finland was invaded by the USSR in WWII and kicked them out of Finland after the USSR suffered heavy troop and tank losses.
Now they invade Ukraine, USA support Ukraine USNavy USS Enterprise CVN 65 know better
Yeah, and no declaration of war from London for this.
@@GregorSass-Ranitz they sided with Hitler so fuck them ,you know
I learned something new. Thank you.
Excellent post Sir.
Simpler stripped down Brewster Buffalos were very maneuverable, but many were lost in landing accidents.
Love the purple prose. 😁
wearing shorts in Finland?
Good vid!
The narrator took an oxycontin
Or a bottle of Pitú.
"My aim was good" I wish I was that badass 😂
The Finns had there guns fixed to converge closer to the enemy plane so that they score more hits but it also meant they had to get in closer to the enemy plane. 250 yards was the normal for brits and yanks
was
How did that P38 sneak in there?
Or the Spitfire?
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Okay, how did a German Messerschmitt Me-163 Komet, Me-262 Schwalbe, and a British Supermarine Spitfire get into this conflict? Not to mention the Fokkers with the Dutch triangles, the American Boeing B-17s, and Consolidated B-24s . . . accuracy doesn't seem to be a strong point here.
Don't let facts obscure a good narrative 🙃
interesting collection of aircraft pertaining to be that which they are not , in this video
Gifted humans are everywhere we just never know when it will be neccessary to be unvovered or revealed. Soviet pilots found out 94 times
Great story.
Excellent writing and narration!
I-153 "Chaika" were biplanes not monoplanes. Couldn't you find any film clips of biplanes being shot at?
If he pushed his stick forward he would have gone down and not up, (unless he was so good that he was flying backwards).
Almost all the initial footage of Finnish aircraft was of Brewster Buffalos, not the Fokker. Then there were Me-163 rocket planes, Stukas, Spitfires, Hurricanes....a veritable encyclopedia of WW2 aircraft, most of which never flew in Finland
Not quite, much of the the "D XXI" footage (like at 12 secs) shows North American Harvards (Texan) belonging to the Royal Dutch Airforce Historical flight (which isnt part of the airforce) at Gilze Rijen Air Base that were modified to represent the D XXI in the movie "Soldaat van Oranje" . They also flew, in a different disguise , in " a bridge too far" .
Are we talking about the same Brewster Buffalo ?
The Finns were the only people who didn't think that it was a piece of sh*t !
Soviet aircraft were mostly disposable junk and pilots weren’t experienced.
Dark Docs kicks so much ass!!! Keep up the phenomenal work guy. 💯💪🏻
LeLv = Lentolaivue = Flight Squadron
So the Unlikely Weapon was the Brewster Buffalo?
Question, I never saw the secret weapon, confused, Thank you
Dutch Bombers at 06:34 and at 15:42 ?
...you show T6`s, not real Fokkers...😀
i didn't see many polikarpov i-153s either but oh well, footage not available
Dived dove ..really
At 3:26 he shot down a Me163 Komet!
Halve it.
Then divide by 3 and mayybe you got the real number.
noice.
Tip: Do not mess with the Finns.
Fighting the Soviets was , I guess like fighting dumb rocks . There was just to many of them .
That's the Russian strategy - use the numbers, not the brains.
They were supported by usa and britain.
@@juhopuhakka2351The winter war ended in 1940. Lend lease didn’t begin for Russia until December 1941.
@@tedwarden1608 Yes and war ended 1944 for us beacuse of that massive aid from the good guys.
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Flying Sisu
That Fokker was a ME 163 lolol come on Dark we all know you can do better than this
The complete mash-up or random aircraft in scenes is rather annoying, in what is otherwise a good video. Content good. Details not so much.
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Russia's talent for acquiring massive losses was much the same then as it is today.
As if you know about then and today. 😂
The story you tell is great.
But the video material you use is abominable...
Even Dutch T-8 Texans trying to look like Fokker D.XXI aircraft!
Also Dutch Buffaloes and Glenn Martin bombers over Malaya and the Dutch East Indies.
And a Me-163 rocket plane...
So go make your own video. Oh ya, you just type smack huh?🤣
@@TUCOtheratt Not a very intelligent answer, to put it mildly...
@@Franky46Boy Was I giving you an answer? No. I pointing out from the perspective of a person that has posted over 300 videos and have 750 THOUSAND subs that when you offer criticism on video production quality to people like me or Dark Docs with over a MILLION subs and here you are with ...6... 6... subs and 6 no talent videos🤣...sorry, lost my train of thought. Anyway you are a joke man.
Hiii
yes your finnish pilot kills dozens with a paper folded aircraft, isn't it?
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Once I saw spitfires and ME 262's ,8:03-8:09 I stopped watching !!
Good accuracy maintains precision with mathematically precision engineering deadly in the hands of a ninjas 😉 🫶🥷