The B58 Should Not Be Making This Much Power With A Simple Tune! (M340i, A90 Supra)

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2022
  • Finally got the Supra's DME unlocked and now it's time to party! Before we install the big turbo kit that I purchased, I wanted to see how much power we can make with the stock turbos and a simple tune anyone can do at home. The results results are pretty shocking! The BMW B58 engine is no joke!
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  • @Cykoid
    @Cykoid Рік тому +176

    once you get over the childish argument that its not a "true Supra" or "it's just a BMW" you'll find its one of the most capable and exciting cars of this decade so far

    • @apexriders_
      @apexriders_ 9 місяців тому +4

      It's a bmw supra. Prove me wrong

    • @Cykoid
      @Cykoid 9 місяців тому +24

      @@apexriders_ is a Pagani Huayra an AMG?

    • @noahismail3884
      @noahismail3884 8 місяців тому +13

      ​@@apexriders_ Lamborghini Volkswagen?

    • @miguelosterroht
      @miguelosterroht 8 місяців тому +13

      @@apexriders_so a McLaren F1 is trash because it has a BMW engine. Most legendary car ever made.

    • @____-gy5mq
      @____-gy5mq 7 місяців тому

      @@miguelosterroht isn't it a mercedes benz engine though?

  • @kayd9597
    @kayd9597 Рік тому +163

    Basically the modern version of the 2JZ. No wonder Toyato chose this engine 👌

    • @kayd9597
      @kayd9597 Рік тому +13

      @Kris Nicholson I know, I've been a mechanic for years. I think you've missed the point. Think similarities my friend, what have both engines got in common 🤔

    • @recon1673
      @recon1673 Рік тому +19

      @Kris Nicholson Well that's probably what he means. I mean theyre both Inline-6 and do a bunch of power. Imo B58 sounds better than 2J😅

    • @kayd9597
      @kayd9597 Рік тому +14

      @@recon1673 yes, thank you 😊 I thought it was obvious. The architecture is going to be different being decades apart. However, having worked on both they are more similar than one would think ✌

    • @justagirlthathateslgbtq4
      @justagirlthathateslgbtq4 Рік тому +3

      @The Stalker Files. ur so full of hate tho,its an amazing engine,only difference is that it’s modern and has better technology

    • @LordToxygene
      @LordToxygene Рік тому +3

      There was a documentary done on the car and Toyota had to send just about every part of that stupid BMW engine back to be redesigned to meet their reliability spec. Don't believe me, go look it up. It's somewhere on UA-cam. My girl has a BMW and I hate everything about the car and so I hate seeing that BMW styled interior in the Supra.

  • @fgj8379
    @fgj8379 Рік тому +103

    Wow. No wonder people really like these cars, the tuning capability is insane. Can't wait to see what's next for your build!

    • @MASSIVEsock
      @MASSIVEsock Рік тому +8

      and every cringe supra fanboy without a clue still thinks that the 2j is the only engine you should have in any car period. I said it when this supra released, its RWD, straight 6, turboed and incredible loooking. Literally couldnt ask for more

    • @alv1n383
      @alv1n383 Рік тому +1

      @@MASSIVEsock I think that most people were just angry that it is mostly BMW with different chassis those who know something know that B58 is the best I6 in production with great upgrade and tune potential

    • @sslum
      @sslum Рік тому

      They dont like them becuase JDM fugboys think Toyota are the only ones who can make a worthy engine. Theyre dead wrong

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 5 місяців тому

      even in stock form the car is pretty fast i know owner who only do aero handaling and cooling mods and are slaying it on the track with stock power just intake and exhuast chasing down 911.

  • @gxp99
    @gxp99 Рік тому +38

    Supra owner: simple tune
    Reality: downpipe, exhaust, charge cooler, heat exchanger, auxiliary rads, tires, ethanol and tune

    • @gord6695
      @gord6695 Рік тому +2

      Glad someone els noticed lol

    • @luqmaanjoseph
      @luqmaanjoseph Рік тому +7

      The car only needs a downpipe in order to flash that tune. The coolers and wheels etc is just there for when he pushes the car more in future I’m guessing with big turbo etc.

    • @350z33hr
      @350z33hr 2 місяці тому

      You don't own one and have no clue 😂🤡

    • @350z33hr
      @350z33hr 2 місяці тому

      @@gord6695You don't own one

    • @gord6695
      @gord6695 Місяць тому

      @@350z33hr speak when you are spoken to boy . men are talking shh

  • @speedstarz_media647
    @speedstarz_media647 Рік тому +191

    They are just absolutely incredible motors

    • @cameronrussell9362
      @cameronrussell9362 Рік тому +29

      As a owner of a B58 with over 600whp, I absolutely agree that these motors are wonderful. So much torque, very refined and a firecracker when you want. A masterpiece.

    • @jkfsh9582
      @jkfsh9582 Рік тому

      @@cameronrussell9362 any reliability issues long term yet?

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Рік тому +7

      Not really, plastic oil pump parts and known for oil consumption. S58 is vastly superior motor

    • @derekgardin1512
      @derekgardin1512 Рік тому +4

      @@fzr1000981 it's also only found in much more expensive cars.

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Рік тому +6

      @derekgardin1512 the new M2 isn't crazy expensive

  • @nighthawk0077
    @nighthawk0077 Рік тому +76

    Cool video showing the ease of tuning and using the Dragy, although I can't figure out why you kept doing 0-60 pulls on the street in between tunes. Tire temp, surface grip, traction mode etc can all vary greatly making consistent results very hard to get. You have a Dragy meaning you can do 30-100mph, 50-120mph pulls, whatever you want. Those would clearly show any power changes. Anyway still good results, looking forward to getting my 340i.

    • @Star.Chaser
      @Star.Chaser Рік тому +2

      Cos they want that low 0-60

    • @palleppalsson
      @palleppalsson Рік тому +4

      Good I didn't have to make the same comment, Dragy reseller and youtuber AutotopNL even has a leaderboard for 100-200km/h that give good comparisons between all they cars they test.

  • @SoopaGaming
    @SoopaGaming 8 місяців тому +1

    I went from n54, to an n55, and just got a 17 440i with the b58 and i cannot wait to get into modding and tuning for this beast.

  • @jimbo7018
    @jimbo7018 Рік тому +2

    Wow 370 at the wheel stock is huge! Must be in line with the M2 S55. Congrats and thanks for a great video!

  • @chrisrasco7519
    @chrisrasco7519 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are very direct informative and to the point great content brother!

  • @braydenbest9448
    @braydenbest9448 Рік тому +2

    the engines awesome sounds immaculate and is a very good daily driver with endless mod options for the entire car.

  • @Ripperx121
    @Ripperx121 Рік тому +3

    Great numbers out that car I would be very happy with that! I have 2020 X3M and you're beating that. That motor is sooooo impressive!

  • @jacobhauenstein
    @jacobhauenstein Рік тому +17

    I look forward to owning a b58 some time, coming from N54 the b58 fixes almost all the major issues and the support for mods is amazing.

    • @DontPanicDear
      @DontPanicDear Рік тому +2

      I too came from a 420bhp N54 E82. I was lucky and managed 50,000miles with no issues 😀
      (Skipped the N55 and all the F series chassis)
      Expecting delivery of a G24 M240i in a few weeks. I’m more risk averse these days (older 😮) so want warranty, so I’ve decided to pay handsomely for the AC Schnitzer performance box. No way I’m chasing numbers like this guy.
      +50bhp / 75lb/ft will be fine for me 😀

    • @HayWoodJobLoMe
      @HayWoodJobLoMe Рік тому

      @@DontPanicDear dude the g42 is insane, i cant wait to see it against the new m2, these flash tunes should keep it on par, especially that xdrive vs RWD

    • @Postingam2
      @Postingam2 Рік тому

      @@DontPanicDearwhy would you pay $8k for the ac schnitzer when u can get the same thing from Dinan or Manhart for a fraction of the price. All 3 of those options also void your warranty so be weary of the “warranty” they offer with the performance box

    • @DontPanicDear
      @DontPanicDear Рік тому +1

      @@Postingam2
      I paid under £3k as part of the whole new car deal.
      ACS have a fully underwritten comprehensive policy, that covers anything that BMW might have an issue with under their warranty.
      The BMW dealer actually facilitated the fitment.
      I do understand your point though, but I’m happy 😃

    • @Postingam2
      @Postingam2 Рік тому +1

      @@DontPanicDear sounds like you got a great deal then, happy driving 🤞🏼

  • @Bubbleman2k
    @Bubbleman2k Рік тому +42

    Excited for the B58 journey.

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Рік тому +5

      Good motor

    • @EBKFiXXY
      @EBKFiXXY Рік тому

      The journey of blowing up cause that’s all a bmw does LMFAO my friend blew up his m340 maxing it out to 500hp now he has a 440i but he so scared he not even modding yeah Il keep my under powered Lexus cause it will last a lifetime more than any bmw shitbox From N to b to S BOOM BOOM SHITBOX they only good for spinning bearings and sending rods to orbit …. BMW

    • @lordhades9455
      @lordhades9455 Рік тому +4

      @@EBKFiXXY lol your buddy screwed up a tune and blew up an engine. That hardly indicates an actual reliability with the engine.
      Lexus makes exceptionally boring products with ancient tech

    • @aarong6616
      @aarong6616 Рік тому +6

      @@EBKFiXXY Typical broke boy response. “New, nice cars are unreliable, I’ll keep my shitbox.” Like you have a choice 😂

    • @EBKFiXXY
      @EBKFiXXY Рік тому

      I just learned the timing chains are in the back towards the bellhousing 😂😂😂 I wonder why bmw did that probably to rape your pockets a lil more and it’s not like bmw have had any issues with timing guides and chains …. 🍵🐸

  • @Noble713
    @Noble713 Рік тому +10

    I really want to start a business specializing in B58 swaps. Buy used motors, refurbish them, add very mild upgrade parts for power and reliability, combine with some readily-available transmissions (tranny kits are the missing link here). Seems like a no-brainer.... I used to drive a Chaser and a Mark II, both with 1JZs, and I own a MkIV Supra, so of course I love my JZ engines but they are heavy-as-f*** iron blocks. The B58 is really the 2J of the 21st century.

  • @mkvftw
    @mkvftw Рік тому +3

    Im going to send my ecu out soon and go with mhd. cant wait! Great video!

    • @Oni-Racing
      @Oni-Racing Рік тому

      Just sent mine out a week ago. Can’t wait to get it back. I like the power that JB4 gives me but I need more… haha

    • @chrisrose5588
      @chrisrose5588 Рік тому

      I flew out with my ECU to Femto and got to see Finland what a awesome country

  • @SupraHenry
    @SupraHenry Рік тому +15

    I’ve owned my mk4 Supra for many years. And since the A90 launched I’ve defended it as a true successor to the mk4. The B58 in my opinion is also better than the JZ as well. The hate for the BMW partnership never made any sense to me. BMW has been a top performance brand for a long time. Love the new Supra and the new engine. A true successor for sure 🤌. R888 has a super stiff side wall and spin a lot. Mickey Thompson ET Street is where it’s at 👌

    • @4sake123
      @4sake123 Рік тому +2

      My biggest concern with the bmw partnership was the reliability. So far the b58 seems to be holding up really well though and it's a beast of an engine

  • @vanoscity
    @vanoscity Рік тому +2

    Bro needs to upload more he be dropping HEAT

  • @Mr-ni2cc
    @Mr-ni2cc Рік тому

    Yessir!! Just got my universal joint today! Thank you sir! Now I am having an issue connecting to Bimmercode. I'm sure I can figure it out but just wanted to know if you guys had this issue as well? Keep that content coming. 💪🏾🔥💪🏾🔥💪🏾🔥

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      One other person told me the same today. I think either the adapter needs a firmware update or maybe you just gotta update the bimmercode app.

  • @repsurfer
    @repsurfer 9 місяців тому

    Hey VV great video definitely gonna grab a Dragy. Where’s that E85 Racetrac located? I only know about the Sunoco’s on Colonial and the other at Lee Rd. It’d be great to hit up another station. Thanks 😊

  • @elcentinela3434
    @elcentinela3434 Рік тому

    Great video 👏👏🙌

  • @briansimpson5664
    @briansimpson5664 10 місяців тому

    Absolutely it should...
    I'm stage 2: DME tuned, FBO, on 93 and literally getting 500whp.
    0-60 with light wheel spin it shaves 3 tenths, closer to 3.59 secs

  • @TrenC21
    @TrenC21 Рік тому +62

    You need to always dyno your car in the gear that has the closest 1:1 ratio. In 5 speeds, that's generally 3rd gear, in 6 speed that's generally 5th in the ZF 8 Speed, that's 6th gear, hence why you made more POWA BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :)

    • @TranceFur
      @TranceFur Рік тому +2

      It’s usually 1:1 in 3rd gear for 5 speed transmissions? Weird, I thought it was normally 5th gear. Didn’t think most 5 speed trannies had any overdrive gears. Mine certainly doesn’t, driving along at 3,500 rpm to do 80 mph, lol.

    • @willmcc05
      @willmcc05 Рік тому +16

      Its 4th in 5 speeds

    • @KuntryBoyCitySlick
      @KuntryBoyCitySlick Рік тому

      @@willmcc05 exactly as when the first 5 speed dropped it was an over drive.

    • @custommotor
      @custommotor Рік тому +2

      I really think that depends on the dyno and how much information about the vehicle you are willing to input. For example back in college I took the course for Dynotuning and we had a all wheel drive linked Superflow dyno. If had the ignition pickup, entered the tire size, rear diff ratio, and transmission gear ratio then it had no effect on the power graph line. The issue would be that the dyno would have poor resolution if it spun up too quickly and we would have to apply a load to the dyno to counteract that. We tested the theory on a few manual cars in multiple gears and didn't really seem have more then deviation of 1-4 hp between gears in a car with around 300hp which really isn't much of a deviation. Our biggest concern was how fast the rollers were spinning. Even though the dyno was rated for like 180-200mph we never really liked to spin it over 130-140 if it wasn't needed. The only car we really ran up near the limit of the dyno was a preproduction viper which between 160-170mph. I want to lean closer to 170mph, but that was 10 years ago. We just didn't want a tire blowout at those speeds in a class.

    • @custommotor
      @custommotor Рік тому

      @@TranceFur A lot can go into that. 5th is almost always overdrive, but I know in my NA and NB miata when I had them they still spun around 3500-4000rpm in overdrive at 80mph. That was due to 2 factors. The tiny tire size and the fact that the NA miata had a 4.3 rear gear and the NB miata had a 3.9 rear gear.

  • @bikotheanimator6169
    @bikotheanimator6169 Рік тому +7

    The A90 Supra may be my next car. I never thought I would like BMW other than the E36 M3 recently, but my options are opening. F82 M4 as a possible affordable car, and the G82 M4 is amazing and the front grill looks cool. Unfortunately, those G82 are far too expensive. That was the same way I felt about the GTR R35, which is one of my favorite cars, but not as much anymore. R35 always seemed expensive and out of reach. My next car option will be an A90/A91 Supra. If not that, then an F82 M4. My only concern about the Supra is the space. I use my rear seats for my bags, and the trunk for groceries. I have a stock 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8. 348 horsepower was nice to experience, but I am ready for the next level. I am saving up money and thinking about selling my car in a few years after the market decreases. I remember watching videos of GenZilla's Genesis Coupe. After Cjay Sabino blew his Remnant Performance turbo kit 3.8 after 7,200 to 7,500 miles, I decided I am not going to do a built engine and turbo kit. There is no point.
    If I were rich, I would definitely go for a G82 M4, but I heard the GRMN Supra is coming and it will have an S58 engine.

    • @jldp24
      @jldp24 Рік тому +4

      The G models are just out of reach..the pricing went to the stars..not for the upper middle class a more.. now you need to be rich.

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому +6

      Try to test drive a Supra before considering one. I honestly don't like mine all that much because of the size and lack of practicality. Great as a performer but not so much as a daily driver IMO.

    • @carsonbrummell4715
      @carsonbrummell4715 Рік тому

      I went from a genesis coupe 3.8 modded to an A91 supra and the supra stock is a decent amount faster then my gen was even with mods I think supra is a better car then f80 m4 and you would definitely enjoy it coming from a gen coupe!

    • @carsonbrummell4715
      @carsonbrummell4715 Рік тому +5

      @@VehicleVirals it’s a 2 seat coupe bro how big do you want it to be… it can fit a full size golf bag or enough luggage for a week long trip for 2… 😐

    • @garthdarville5145
      @garthdarville5145 Рік тому +2

      I’m in the same boat as far as space goes. Been considering the M240i. The looks finally grew on me.

  • @randallboone9375
    @randallboone9375 Рік тому

    I can’t wait to get the manual. So Im in Orlando this weekend with my 335i. Anything going on as far as meets? I missed u last time when I was working in Tampa.

  • @colinchandler6516
    @colinchandler6516 Рік тому +2

    and you have a classic holds its value fast as you made a great choice on buying this monster

  • @Jrk450
    @Jrk450 Рік тому +4

    A stage one tune on a B58 engine is about 430-440bhp . With a decat it jumps to around 450-460. In stock form the B58 is shown to produce about 360-370bhp. Quoted figures from BMW is about 340 bhp. This is using high octane petrol in the UK RON 99.

    • @lclnbm
      @lclnbm Рік тому

      Why a decat tho

    • @eastonnida8213
      @eastonnida8213 Рік тому

      @@lclnbm easy couple horsepower and people like their cars loud

    • @zaarkeru3391
      @zaarkeru3391 Рік тому +1

      @@eastonnida8213
      True, it smell like shit though xD

    • @lclnbm
      @lclnbm Рік тому

      @eastonnida8213 fair point. I just wouldn't do it in my city with emissions tests

    • @Jrk450
      @Jrk450 Рік тому

      @@lclnbm people who make their car in to pure track car and not for the road.

  • @cccc9911
    @cccc9911 Рік тому

    Great channel!!! Btw...is that engine sound coming thru the car speakers??

  • @lataoball3820
    @lataoball3820 Рік тому +4

    Want to get a b58 next seem really fun

  • @yendryperez8583
    @yendryperez8583 Рік тому

    Nice job love the Supra

  • @Shaws_Garage
    @Shaws_Garage Рік тому +10

    Launch in 2nd like some others have mentioned. The 8 speed gearing is so close and power is so good that you’ll have quicker times. Is this your new favorite BMW??? 😂😂

  • @ninjastriker0137
    @ninjastriker0137 Рік тому +1

    Nice vid bro

  • @CTG324
    @CTG324 Рік тому +3

    I previously had a m240 if you are looking for a full e85 tune port injection on the stock gen 2 fuel pump can get you close to 600 wheel on straight E with the mods you have as well.

  • @tkostang
    @tkostang Рік тому +2

    Are you just stomping on the throttle or are you modulating the throttle?

  • @deadly134
    @deadly134 Рік тому +1

    People that hate on the motor for bmw I get it but damn they put a lot into this one cause of the heritage. I mean on forums people refer to the n54 bmw as a modern day 2jz… this blocks can handle power

  • @kobe7401
    @kobe7401 Рік тому

    Hey on the streets try launching in 2nd gear, im x drive and as soon as it gets cold i spin all 4 launching in 2nd it hooks so good

  • @ScionTC2003
    @ScionTC2003 Рік тому

    Beautiful Supra Jess

  • @jackancher
    @jackancher Рік тому

    Damn that’s a fast BMW

  • @RickMitchellWV
    @RickMitchellWV Рік тому

    great video! what phone mount do you recommend to use with your dragy videos?

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      The one I'm using I purchased from Target. Brand it iottie

  • @jds344
    @jds344 Рік тому

    I’m waiting and excited for the bmw steering swap

  • @SleeperVersus
    @SleeperVersus Рік тому

    No hates, but you should have tried with drag pack at least. Stock 21+ supra can run mid 3sec 0-60mph. The quickest i have done when i was stock on nitto nt555r2 was 3.41sec.

  • @mytimewillshine
    @mytimewillshine Рік тому

    Just wondering why your check engine light on? I know you said is fetmo unlocked. Light caught my eye lol.

  • @trandafircosmin1568
    @trandafircosmin1568 Рік тому

    I make 443 hp with downpipe . M340i xdrive g20 and stock air filter and other . Soon upgrade csf but make more

  • @channelgreen5949
    @channelgreen5949 Рік тому +1

    Is this type of tune safe for the car’s engine?

  • @alvaroperez7879
    @alvaroperez7879 Рік тому

    What would a 2022 supra with downpipe and MHD stage 2 make in power on pump fuel? 430-440?

  • @AngelRodie
    @AngelRodie Рік тому +1

    The B58 is an amazing engine, well, the big Daddy N54 made it into this. Everyone still talks about the 2Jz, but they forget history. the first straight 6 was made in 1933 by BMW, and they continued making those until today. Also German makers ehem, Toyota and Nissan have had Collabs with the since the 70s. So. Yeah, the B58 is a good engine and for sure tunable af.

  • @aaronwu4360
    @aaronwu4360 7 місяців тому

    Very cool video! Just wondering why the engine light is on?

  • @luiscolindres8112
    @luiscolindres8112 Рік тому

    Do you know how to delete the check engine light with mhd? Mine came on when I installed the downpipe

  • @supahone3
    @supahone3 Рік тому

    I use water methanol on my e92 and it cools IA temps over 40 degrees during a hit.

  • @derekhale7345
    @derekhale7345 Рік тому +1

    Would this ecu mod reduce the car lifespan?

  • @dash0173
    @dash0173 Рік тому

    Is it actually a good and reliable motor? I know almost nothing about these things

  • @JoeG93
    @JoeG93 Рік тому +1

    Is the CEL on because of the downpipe?

  • @SidewaysGts
    @SidewaysGts 3 місяці тому

    If i recall the 6th gear on these cars is the 1:1 gear, and is the gear youd want to dyno in anyways. Any other gear will have more parasitic loss and reduce your power readings

  • @viiriix6525
    @viiriix6525 Рік тому

    Ah Innovation, a good test spot.

  • @BabaYagaRacing
    @BabaYagaRacing Рік тому +14

    B58 is the way!

    • @EBKFiXXY
      @EBKFiXXY Рік тому

      the way to end up with a big ass hole in your block take it easy boys 😂😂😂

  • @trandafircosmin1568
    @trandafircosmin1568 Рік тому

    I have m340i xdrive after tune i hAve prob with diff leak oil is general problems need upgrade i do it soon.

  • @LTYFLY
    @LTYFLY Рік тому

    Make some more follow up videos of your Supra please!

  • @Oni-Racing
    @Oni-Racing Рік тому

    Are you planning to get a custom e50 tune?

  • @emm_zr0674
    @emm_zr0674 Рік тому

    Holy sht is that easy to make power with the supra!! 😱😱
    Damm i really really need one 😩

  • @Entertainmentinc1
    @Entertainmentinc1 Рік тому

    Why is the engine light on? Wouldn’t the tune be able to turn the of unnecessary engine codes?

  • @seb42
    @seb42 Рік тому

    Can't wait for X3 m40i

  • @izzo69
    @izzo69 Рік тому

    Right in my backyard.
    🗣East Siiiide lol

  • @JacesOwnWorld
    @JacesOwnWorld Рік тому +7

    After watching your vid, I decided to calculate some numbers with the B58 in comparison to the EA888, specifically in the MK7/7.5 GTI with the IS20 factory turbo. Reason why I chose the EA888 is because, well, I am curious at the comparison as I own a MK7 GTI, but also the EA888 is considered one of the best, if not the best, 4cyl-T motors in the market today, when it comes to power numbers when modified.
    I figured out both the B58 and the EA888's average baseline (stock) dyno numbers, the B58 and EA888's average Stage 2 numbers, and what these numbers indicated. I will mention that both engines Stage 2 dyno numbers are used with aftermarket parts, including an aftermarket downpipe, intake, and exhaust.
    B58 (93oct)
    -- Stock
    -- 345whp/400tq (413 crank hp/400tq)
    -- Stage 2 Tune
    -- 415whp/490tq (494 crank hp/490tq)
    **This is a +70whp/90tq (81 crank hp/90tq) increase over stock
    EA888 (91oct) (IS20 Turbo on GTI)
    -- Stock
    -- 220whp/270tq (256 crank hp/270tq)
    -- Stage 2 Tune
    -- 310whp/310tq (356 crank hp/3010tq)
    **This is a +90whp/40tq (100 crank hp/40tq) increase over stock
    What I find very interesting is the numbers given the B58 is an inline-6 engine and the EA888 is a 4cyl engine. The EA888 gains more hp from a Stage 2 tune over the B58, but the B58 gains more torque over the EA888. This makes sense for the B58 to gain more torque because it not only has a bigger turbo from the factory than the EA888 IS20, but it also has a bigger engine and is using a higher octane of gas. For the EA888 to gain more hp just shows you how amazing its engine is! And I'm sure if there was more data on the EA888 using 93oct gas (most use 91oct), then its hp numbers would even be higher, and its torque numbers would be a closer match to the B58's. I don't know exactly what the specs are of the B58's stock turbo, but I do know its twin scroll, and the IS20 on the EA888 on the GTI (nor the IS38 on the Golf R) isn't. I would imagine the Golf R's IS38 turbo is a closer match spec wise to the B58's stock turbo, and we now the IS38 puts out even larger numbers stock vs. Stage 2 over the GTI.
    The B58 is definitely the better engine. Its a lot stronger, and can withstand a lot more power without rebuilding it, but I still am pretty astonished at how potent the EA888 engine is. It really is a "sleeper" engine, even though many people know what the MK7/7.5 GTI and Golf R are about after so many people have been gapped by them lol. The B58 will still gap pretty much every MK7/7.5 GTI/R mod vs. mod, but I have to give credit where credit is due, and the EA888 is a BEAST for it being a 4-banger turbo car!

    • @memo-bt2us
      @memo-bt2us Рік тому +6

      But it looks like an egg

    • @TheJapfanboy
      @TheJapfanboy Рік тому +5

      @@memo-bt2us 💀 bro just dropped all this research and game. Don’t be corny man.

    • @JacesOwnWorld
      @JacesOwnWorld Рік тому

      @@memo-bt2us and the Supra looks like a Tonka Toy, especially with all of its fake vents lol. And your gen Mustang is one of the ugliest Mustangs ever made, and it’s interior is the worst interior probably ever made. But that’s all besides the point here bud. Try to keep up…

    • @OCOWGTR27
      @OCOWGTR27 Рік тому +4

      Theres a couple of things with these assumptions. Its a lot harder to go from 300-400hp than it is to go from 200-300. Plus peak figures dont show the power/torque curve. Power and torque under the curve show far more of the story than the peak power. The B58 will be full boost on stock turbo from 2500 and essentially hold peak torque from a much lower rpm. Drivability wise, this makes the comparsion pointess as even if they had the same power, because of torque / displacement, the b58 would be faster everywhere. Then there's engine smoothness, sound. Theres a lot more to it than simple peak number comparison. EA888 is good for a 4cyl, but not really comparable.

    • @EsatKaplan
      @EsatKaplan Рік тому +3

      k20 would like to have a word with u

  • @moontrauma5772
    @moontrauma5772 Рік тому

    Can someone explain to me how do you tune your own vehicle ? Is it some electronic device you have to buy and plug into your car?

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      Technology has made it. It's as simple as buying an adapter and a tuning licence and following directions. Some cars require a DME first however.

  • @user-ly9zz2rs1z
    @user-ly9zz2rs1z Рік тому

    So you got the CSF super manifold and running ethanol and only 480whp..? 480 on E40 ots?
    E30 jb4 piggyback tune pushes 490-495whp.
    ots E50 with ecutek is about 520whp 600tq with no other mods.. you should be pushing like 540 ish to the wheel with the extra fueling from the super manifold.
    With your setup you should be at around 690whp once you go bigger turbo. Assuming you go pure800 or pure850.

    • @zackkitzmiller
      @zackkitzmiller Рік тому

      Pure turbos are stock frame turbos. They are not 'big' in the 'big turbo' sense.

    • @user-ly9zz2rs1z
      @user-ly9zz2rs1z Рік тому

      @@zackkitzmiller regardless his initial numbers are terrible so if he going big boost he should switch platforms is all I'm saying.

  • @Oplix
    @Oplix Рік тому

    Why is there a check engine light immediately after tuning?

  • @doorkicker8507
    @doorkicker8507 Рік тому +2

    The stock launch control is crap in this car. Just had a Pure 800 installed and retuned in my SUPRA.My guy actually put a launch control in my tune. Works amazing. Just like a stall speed. Brake torque, build boost. And mash the metal.

  • @TheRealDVO
    @TheRealDVO 28 днів тому

    What data logger are you using?

  • @SubieMooha
    @SubieMooha Рік тому +4

    Sounds just like an R34 GTR. This inline 6 is boss!

  • @stephenhughes4304
    @stephenhughes4304 3 місяці тому

    Also don't turn traction control off just put it in sport and stamp on the brake and throttle

  • @Tunercraze
    @Tunercraze 4 місяці тому

    What wheels are those? TE37? Or... ?

  • @ivanfider1631
    @ivanfider1631 Рік тому +43

    Try taking off in 2nd gear and see if that make any difference. Video 🔥 like always.

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Рік тому +19

      2nd gear is the way to launch them

    • @SuperHbkforever
      @SuperHbkforever Рік тому +5

      @@BabaYagaRacing ayyyyyy babayaga knows what's up! Love your vids BTW. Your shit just makes me want to make my car faster xD

    • @howdyimdan
      @howdyimdan Рік тому

      @@BabaYagaRacing with a hybrid turbo yes. Ive heard that 1st is the way to go tho with stock turbo. ive gotten all my best times with 1st, i should play around with 2nd more tho.

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Рік тому +4

      @@howdyimdan 2nd is the best way no matter the turbo

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Рік тому +1

      @@SuperHbkforever thanks 🔥🔥

  • @LichaelMewis
    @LichaelMewis Рік тому

    So I'm confused. What engine mods did you do to the car besides the tune, just a downpipe?

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому +1

      Downpipe and all the CSF cooling upgrades available

    • @LichaelMewis
      @LichaelMewis Рік тому

      @@VehicleVirals can I call you tomorrow? I have some questions for my setup and what you recommend buying off your website to get started.

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      @@LichaelMewis You can message us on the chat on my site. Or message me on IG and I can help

  • @jacksonwhite421
    @jacksonwhite421 Рік тому

    Shit I make close to 800 on my x3m with a MHD ots tune. I have traction issues with awd. Glad to see the numbers on B58. Big torque numbers

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      That's a ton of power!

    • @jacksonwhite421
      @jacksonwhite421 Рік тому

      Definitely look up the MHD s58 package. It’s a beast. I made 670 to the wheels when it was bone stock from the showroom with the stage 1 MHD on 93.

    • @severe28
      @severe28 Рік тому

      Bro those S58 engines are no joke.

  • @alexis.chavez
    @alexis.chavez Рік тому +1

    Why only testing 0-60? I see a lot of people doing this but I don’t get it. How good of a measurement of your top end is knowing 0-60? Interested in hearing your thoughts

    • @alexis.chavez
      @alexis.chavez Рік тому

      I guess I’m wondering why not just measure 1/4 mile times? Do you only race till 60 in all your races?

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому +2

      Didn't have the runway available when I filmed this video to do 1/4 or 60-130. But since most manufacturese advertise 0-60 I figured I can do that.

    • @alexis.chavez
      @alexis.chavez Рік тому

      @@VehicleVirals ahhh ok gotcha! I was just curious. I thought you just didn’t like 1/4 mile runs haha. Good luck with the build. New sub here

  • @YoungBurr94
    @YoungBurr94 7 місяців тому

    Goes for a 2021 m440 too right?

  • @CtRacerX
    @CtRacerX Рік тому

    Almost 100whp from a stage 2 tune with supporting mods is always a good thing…
    In terms of cost; how much did you spend to almost get 500whp??

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому +3

      $400 for tune and $300 for downpipe. That's all you really need.

  • @nicholasborrelli7544
    @nicholasborrelli7544 Рік тому +3

    Should have compared 60-130 times instead for a better metric. Unless you have radials on the car you will just break traction every time....

  • @mauriciogretter8418
    @mauriciogretter8418 Рік тому

    The car will not activate launch control with traction fully off (DSC) which is why it does a burnout. Try clicking the traction button once

  • @reyvr6
    @reyvr6 Рік тому

    My friend on a90 dual port e85 tune made 513whp and 646wtq..

  • @TheOriginalTommo
    @TheOriginalTommo Рік тому

    What's with the CGI sprints? E.G. 6:34 etc ??

  • @Eyes_Open_Limit_Reached
    @Eyes_Open_Limit_Reached Рік тому

    Thanks to BMW for making it.

  • @michaell1112
    @michaell1112 3 місяці тому

    What wheels are they? Couldn’t hear properly.

  • @callanotis7902
    @callanotis7902 Рік тому +4

    Yea I don't like when b58s pull up to my N54 I start sweating😂

    • @tonyfrance4100
      @tonyfrance4100 Рік тому +2

      For real. It took full bolt-ons and turbo inlets for my N54 to make power like this B58 does. Those motors are crazy good.

  • @EchigoyaHonpo
    @EchigoyaHonpo Рік тому

    how about 1/4 miles run ? probably high 11s ?

  • @jesuschrist2284
    @jesuschrist2284 Рік тому

    I think my hatch back had this engine

  • @prskyviews
    @prskyviews 2 місяці тому

    What gear are you testing at? 5th?

  • @cheezybread7783
    @cheezybread7783 Рік тому

    so the B58 is reliable BMW? Did u end up changing most of the plastic parts, to metal? Is this engine a good daily with no tunes maybe cosmetics?

    • @carboydorifutoparty3976
      @carboydorifutoparty3976 Рік тому +2

      From what I've seen most say u just do regular maintenance on them and they'll run just fine. Its partially a keep an eye on what gen B58 u get cause 1st gen B58s had coolant issues which was fixed for the later gens, one of the variants of the newer gen B58s has oil issues which they drink oil well over the normal amount which is sort of skewed since some found ways around it or are still having the issue come up even after they had dealers look into them. (Again this is specifically for some of the morw modern gen B58s not really thw oil). People say they're good dailies and even some with just a tune and dp pass over 100k+ with basic maintenance that any car needs by that time as long as it's keep up to date with everything they run just fine.

  • @sufyanb
    @sufyanb Рік тому

    If you don't mind, will you tell us how much the DME unlock cost in all in?

  • @blade643
    @blade643 Рік тому

    Bro, Im in CFL as well. I cannot find any E85 stations! where's that one at?

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому +1

      By the airport there's two stations. Wawa and Racetrac. My go to is Sunoco on East Colonial but they were out when I filmed this video.

    • @blade643
      @blade643 Рік тому

      @@VehicleVirals bro, UA-cam never sent me the notification. I finally just seen your response, thanks man!

  • @Nohea.e92
    @Nohea.e92 Рік тому

    What do you think the numbers would be on a mustang dyno?

  • @jrag1000
    @jrag1000 Рік тому

    I like that car!

  • @abcdLeeXY
    @abcdLeeXY Рік тому

    Toyota really makes the best BMW

  • @kiastingergt2231
    @kiastingergt2231 Рік тому

    How much was that tuner ?

  • @nickgaudio2072
    @nickgaudio2072 Рік тому

    Wait does this tune work right away? Cause I’m their website it says u gotta send ur dme somewhere in Finland to get unlocked.

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      I talked about it in the video. 2021+ have to send our DME. Which is a service we offer on our website.

    • @nickgaudio2072
      @nickgaudio2072 Рік тому

      @@VehicleVirals and can we just buy an unlocked dme from u or we have to send u the one from our car to get unlocked?

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      @@nickgaudio2072 Gotta send it out. We are just the middle man

    • @nickgaudio2072
      @nickgaudio2072 Рік тому

      And on ur website it says it works for G3x 340i. Wondering if it works for G20 m340i’s as well. I got a 2021 m340i so I wanna make sure it works before purchasing.

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      @@nickgaudio2072 Does work for the G20 M340i. That and the Supra are the two well unlocks for the most. Sorry about that.

  • @greebuh
    @greebuh Рік тому +1

    Your car will pull timing over 116f IATs. So many degrees of timing for every couple degrees over that 116f.

    • @VehicleVirals
      @VehicleVirals  Рік тому

      Not true with E85 mix. I pulled zero timing on all cylinders. For the 93 Oct tune, I did pull timing when running on high IATs

    • @greebuh
      @greebuh Рік тому

      @Vehicle Virals I suppose you're not on a oe tune at all.

  • @DontPanicDear
    @DontPanicDear Рік тому

    It seems oem car owners in the US always claim oem engine bhp, but at the wheels?
    If this was the case, there wouldn’t need to be correction factor?!?
    The wheel figure should be around 15% LESS than crank figure, not the same.
    What am I missing here?

  • @Mr20564
    @Mr20564 Рік тому +1

    Does the check engine light goes away after ?

  • @fp5840
    @fp5840 Рік тому

    gotta love bmws

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 Рік тому +2

    TBH, Supra's been doing 3.7s and 3.8s stock. If you're going to do anything to void your warranty or change how your car drives, might as well go big or don't.

    • @intoitshots420
      @intoitshots420 Рік тому +1

      All he did was spin should be low 3 without spinning

  • @djisydneyaustralia
    @djisydneyaustralia 3 місяці тому

    Very bmw inside, not a complaint , just an observation, steering wheel looks directly taken as does ac controls and infotainment controls