Great video. It's a shame though that the most important adjustment of cuts to allow the battery to fit was not shown. I understand the areas needed to be cut but a clear view of what was being done would have been beneficial.
The only reason they went to 6X 8V batterys is because the lower the voltage in a battery the more amp hours you can get, the only down fall to a 12V battery swap is you lose about 18min of run time... About to swap my moms cart over to 12V thanks for the video (Im a master tech for toyota)
Nothing else needs to be changed for this kind of swap? I'm thinking about switching six 6v for three 12v and I had the guy at the Custom Cart shop vehemently reject the idea, saying you might need to change many components, maybe even the motor. Does that make sense?
@@oohhhhh 6 x 6 volt is the same as 3 x 12 volt.. just make sure to keep any 12volt components (lights, horn etc.) wired to just one of the batteries and not two
I would not recommend doing this on personal carts you drive in the city, or use at a campground, etc. Golf courses periodically charge their carts each day or even after a couple uses. Most individuals use their carts all day or leave them unchanged for several days. Key was to save money and these seem to be used on golf course. The amp ratings on most 12v batteries is not equal to the 6 8v amperage! So, after 6-8 hours of driving around the town or campground, you very well could not make it as far. Also on electric carts hills draw high amperage to climb. Works great for his application. Actually lithium batteries are my choice! More expensive initially, but battery life is 3-4 times lead acid and you have full power until battery voltage is dead. Then it completely dies!! A good battery meter fixes that.
I have a 2000 model Club Car the a previous owner switched from 8 volt to 12 volt batteries. None of the accessories work, (lights, battery charge indicator, etc...). What could cause this and how do I fix it ??
It's time for me to change batteries. I play a lot of golf. 36-45 holes... Have you noticed a decrease in run time by converting to 4 ? I would do this as well, but have heard the 6 batteries will lost longer. I suppose if you guys recharge after 18 holes of play, it wouldn't be an issue. I really enjoy our marathons of playing all day :-) Thanks for the video!
We have 18 holes.. I was told by a friend that the total amps are higher. We kept 5 /2011 carts for utility work and beat them to death. They hold up fine.. But 36-45 holes I really have no data on that brother. Thanks for watching and your question!
Are those group 31 class batteries? I don't recognize the brand or the 'off-standard' looking battery cap configuration. Usually, they are all in a line
Thanks for the video Ron, can I just ask what the rough dimensions of the 12v batteries are you managed to install - and what was their amperage ? I have 8v Trojans and after my 3rd set of replacement’s ive decided to try converting one of my clubs car precedents to 12v cells because Trojans and 8v batteries are so impossible to source and maintain !
Nothing else needs to be changed for this kind of swap? I'm thinking about switching six 6v for three 12v and I had the guy at the Custom Cart shop vehemently reject the idea, saying you might need to change many components, maybe even the motor. Does that make sense?
All I can say is what I have done to my carts works. The chargers only see 48 volts. Same with all the other parts in my case. You have to explore your self and see like I did. I work at at a Army golf course. I just had a 36v cart dropped off my the Army for me to check out. It does not work and they said they have no idea. I found 2 bad batteries first off. I then hooked up 2 12v jumper boxes in place of them and it was working. All they need is 2 new batteries. I think for myself and not what others tell me. I will have a video posted soon about the chargers.
Ruff Mutt... I assume you have other than 4 12v batteries in the cart now? I can only speak for the carts I have. I did careful experiments to be sure I didn't make a huge mistake. In my case it went as planned. Thanks for the question.
Jesse... Put switch in toe first...Then disconnect one cable so the circuit is open then hook up your charger leads to one battery at a time like the others are not even there... Good question thanks!!
In my test the charger only sees a complete 48v circuit and can't tell if 6- 8v or 4-12v . I will be checking that again before I convert more to 4-12v batteries. Great questions! Thanks for asking!!
Justin, you could hit each battery with a 12v dc charger ( disengaged from the buggy ) or run the oem charger, it’s really hard to maintain an 8v battery because the maximum charging rate is like 10v which is impossible to find - it’s always a 6 or 12v charger..
Hi Ron, I picked up four 12 volt batteries from Costco Feb 2021, they worked amazing until about a month ago. Now we barely get 20 minutes run time. I notice with your batteries you can add water, where mine are sealed units. That's all they sell at Costco, here in Canada. Is this my problem? I still have time to return them for a full refund.
Thanks Mark. Only deep cycle batteries will hold up for 18 holes. Return them. Think about this. A car has a charging system that charges when running. Carts only charge when going down hill. Not enough to do the job before charging
@@ronstickle4694 Thanks Ron, I'm having a problem finding batteries that I can add water, is that the problem? Every deep cycle battery I find is a sealed unit.
@@ronstickle4694 Thanks for that, I did get 24DC deep cycle marine batteries from Costco originally. It appears I could pry off the cap and add water. I also checked the voltage and it was at 12.01 or close on all 4 batteries. I hooked them up in series and put my 12 volt Smart Charger on them and they all came up to 13.3 to 13.4. I can return them for full refund until Feb 2022, so I'm going to try them again, and see how long they hold the full charge. I'm reluctant to pry off the caps, as they may not take them back if damaged? My biggest problem is I can't find any batteries with screw tops to add water other than $230 6 or 8 volt golf cart batteries here.
I don't know but they are the same batteries we have used in out 2004 club car carts. They are heavy deep cycle and are work great! They come from northeast battery.. And thank you for the complement!!
I'm currently using 12v 29d duralast, but my charger isn't charging them for some reason. Any ideas why?Duralast 27DC Group 27 Deep Cycle Marine and RV Battery
@@solarT.D.I.Y.20 To start with. What brand or cart and year are they? Next what kind of charger are you using? I can only at this time say the carts I did this to are 2014 club car using the eric charger they came with. However my chargers will not charge if only one battery has a open or a internal short. I always fully load test and have a midtronics tester that can see a problem even if the battery passes a load test. Only after that I look for other causes. I can tell you this.. I have had club car carts blow a simple fuse and prevent them from charging!
Is a 2002 club car 48volts, instead of 6 batteries I installed the 4 12v duralast 27d group deep cycle marine battery. Is working fine but may I haven't discharge them enough to tell if the charge have to detect a specific low voltage value in order to start charging. I'm using a after market 48 volt 15mp charge from Amazon. My next step is to fix the original charger that came with the golf car. I'll keep you posted with the test results. I'm still trying to figure out and learn more as I go. Thank you for getting back to me!
@@solarT.D.I.Y.20 Wow that is an old cart. I have repaired lots of old school chargers. Most of the time it is the rectifier. I just uploaded a new video about this. I hope it helps brother... ua-cam.com/video/YbL-dEH6Vxw/v-deo.html
All I know is the carts work as well as they did with the 6 8v batteries. They MUST be golf cart batteries! I think the batteries are ultrapower deep cycle.
I just installed 4 Duralast 27DC Group 27 Deep Cycle Marine and RV Battery. But I'm not sure if charger needs to have a higher amp in order to charge them. Let me know how you have been charging yours or if you can show a video would be great. Thank you foe responding.
@@solarT.D.I.Y.20 Hi Luis.. I use the club car charger the cart came with. The charger is only looking at 48v is 48v and not how many batteries are installed.
Great video. It's a shame though that the most important adjustment of cuts to allow the battery to fit was not shown. I understand the areas needed to be cut but a clear view of what was being done would have been beneficial.
The only reason they went to 6X 8V batterys is because the lower the voltage in a battery the more amp hours you can get, the only down fall to a 12V battery swap is you lose about 18min of run time...
About to swap my moms cart over to 12V thanks for the video
(Im a master tech for toyota)
I did learn that since making this video. Both setups work for us well with out fail as we are only 18 holes. Thanks for the comment!
I was wondering about the negative side to a swap but you explained it, thanks!
Nothing else needs to be changed for this kind of swap? I'm thinking about switching six 6v for three 12v and I had the guy at the Custom Cart shop vehemently reject the idea, saying you might need to change many components, maybe even the motor. Does that make sense?
@@oohhhhh 6 x 6 volt is the same as 3 x 12 volt.. just make sure to keep any 12volt components (lights, horn etc.) wired to just one of the batteries and not two
I would not recommend doing this on personal carts you drive in the city, or use at a campground, etc. Golf courses periodically charge their carts each day or even after a couple uses. Most individuals use their carts all day or leave them unchanged for several days. Key was to save money and these seem to be used on golf course. The amp ratings on most 12v batteries is not equal to the 6 8v amperage! So, after 6-8 hours of driving around the town or campground, you very well could not make it as far. Also on electric carts hills draw high amperage to climb. Works great for his application. Actually lithium batteries are my choice! More expensive initially, but battery life is 3-4 times lead acid and you have full power until battery voltage is dead. Then it completely dies!! A good battery meter fixes that.
I have a 2000 model Club Car the a previous owner switched from 8 volt to 12 volt batteries. None of the accessories work, (lights, battery charge indicator, etc...). What could cause this and how do I fix it ??
It's time for me to change batteries. I play a lot of golf. 36-45 holes... Have you noticed a decrease in run time by converting to 4 ? I would do this as well, but have heard the 6 batteries will lost longer. I suppose if you guys recharge after 18 holes of play, it wouldn't be an issue. I really enjoy our marathons of playing all day :-) Thanks for the video!
We have 18 holes.. I was told by a friend that the total amps are higher. We kept 5 /2011 carts for utility work and beat them to death. They hold up fine.. But 36-45 holes I really have no data on that brother. Thanks for watching and your question!
Are those group 31 class batteries? I don't recognize the brand or the 'off-standard' looking battery cap configuration. Usually, they are all in a line
They come from north east batteries
I was thinking the same thing! What group size??
15:03 Suprise - keep that circuit off. Thanks for the video. what brand batteries were you using?
Oh you saw that lol... The batteries are UltraPower deep cycle...
So 2 years in how they doing now was it worth it ? Trying to decide if i wanna do this
Still working great!
Thanks for the video Ron, can I just ask what the rough dimensions of the 12v batteries are you managed to install - and what was their amperage ?
I have 8v Trojans and after my 3rd set of replacement’s ive decided to try converting one of my clubs car precedents to 12v cells because Trojans and 8v batteries are so impossible to source and maintain !
Thanks Chris! I will get the dimensions today and get back to you later today.
Chris
13X7 9 depth all in inches
Nothing else needs to be changed for this kind of swap? I'm thinking about switching six 6v for three 12v and I had the guy at the Custom Cart shop vehemently reject the idea, saying you might need to change many components, maybe even the motor. Does that make sense?
All I can say is what I have done to my carts works. The chargers only see 48 volts. Same with all the other parts in my case. You have to explore your self and see like I did. I work at at a Army golf course. I just had a 36v cart dropped off my the Army for me to check out. It does not work and they said they have no idea. I found 2 bad batteries first off. I then hooked up 2 12v jumper boxes in place of them and it was working. All they need is 2 new batteries. I think for myself and not what others tell me. I will have a video posted soon about the chargers.
@@ronstickle4694 After this setup, does your traditional cart charger work the same before the battery change over?
What group size / part number are those batteries? Group 27, 31 are common, I've never seen ones with that vent cap configuration.
The batteries are not marked with group number... Part number is EV1275... I get them from northeast battery and are a correct replacement .
@@ronstickle4694 Thanks! Does it end up being cheaper? Those 8V ones are available at my Costco for about $130/each.
@@Hubjeep Can" speak for Costco batteries.. But the ones I used are made for golf cars and forklifts.. Deep cycle.
@@ronstickle4694 Yes, these are too, Interstate brand (Johnson Controls?). GC8 (golf cart 8)
@Ron … so I have a 2006 club car 48volt … so it is possible to use 4 12v batteries on it and won’t mess up anything? Cause batteries are expensive
Ruff Mutt... I assume you have other than 4 12v batteries in the cart now? I can only speak for the carts I have. I did careful experiments to be sure I didn't make a huge mistake. In my case it went as planned. Thanks for the question.
And i heard is have to be a deep cycle battery.other wise it won't work.is that correct. Thanks you
I believe both batteries are deep cycle.
What 12v deep cycle battery do you recommend?
Hey ron. How would i charg this system with a regular 12v csr charger? Do i have to un hook everything?
Jesse... Put switch in toe first...Then disconnect one cable so the circuit is open then hook up your charger leads to one battery at a time like the others are not even there... Good question thanks!!
How would you charge the four 12 volts battery.using the same charger.thanks
In my test the charger only sees a complete 48v circuit and can't tell if 6- 8v or 4-12v . I will be checking that again before I convert more to 4-12v batteries. Great questions! Thanks for asking!!
Thanks you,definitely answers all my questions.
Justin, you could hit each battery with a 12v dc charger ( disengaged from the buggy ) or run the oem charger, it’s really hard to maintain an 8v battery because the maximum charging rate is like 10v which is impossible to find - it’s always a 6 or 12v charger..
Hi Ron, I picked up four 12 volt batteries from Costco Feb 2021, they worked amazing until about a month ago. Now we barely get 20 minutes run time. I notice with your batteries you can add water, where mine are sealed units. That's all they sell at Costco, here in Canada. Is this my problem?
I still have time to return them for a full refund.
Thanks Mark. Only deep cycle batteries will hold up for 18 holes. Return them. Think about this. A car has a charging system that charges when running. Carts only charge when going down hill. Not enough to do the job before charging
@@ronstickle4694 Thanks Ron, I'm having a problem finding batteries that I can add water, is that the problem? Every deep cycle battery I find is a sealed unit.
@@markbenson8675 That is the problem. Every month we add water to them. And a lot. Nothing will hold up unless batteries for carts.
@@ronstickle4694 Thanks for that, I did get 24DC deep cycle marine batteries from Costco originally. It appears I could pry off the cap and add water. I also checked the voltage and it was at 12.01 or close on all 4 batteries. I hooked them up in series and put my 12 volt Smart Charger on them and they all came up to 13.3 to 13.4.
I can return them for full refund until Feb 2022, so I'm going to try them again, and see how long they hold the full charge. I'm reluctant to pry off the caps, as they may not take them back if damaged? My biggest problem is I can't find any batteries with screw tops to add water other than $230 6 or 8 volt golf cart batteries here.
@@markbenson8675 Yea Mark the batteries are expensive but designed for heavy use like golf carts/fork lifts etc.
Did anyone confirm what Group of battery that these are from? Great video BTW! Thanks
I don't know but they are the same batteries we have used in out 2004 club car carts. They are heavy deep cycle and are work great! They come from northeast battery.. And thank you for the complement!!
I'm currently using 12v 29d duralast, but my charger isn't charging them for some reason.
Any ideas why?Duralast 27DC Group 27 Deep Cycle Marine and RV Battery
@@solarT.D.I.Y.20 To start with. What brand or cart and year are they? Next what kind of charger are you using? I can only at this time say the carts I did this to are 2014 club car using the eric charger they came with. However my chargers will not charge if only one battery has a open or a internal short. I always fully load test and have a midtronics tester that can see a problem even if the battery passes a load test. Only after that I look for other causes. I can tell you this.. I have had club car carts blow a simple fuse and prevent them from charging!
Is a 2002 club car 48volts, instead of 6 batteries I installed the 4 12v duralast 27d group deep cycle marine battery.
Is working fine but may I haven't discharge them enough to tell if the charge have to detect a specific low voltage value in order to start charging.
I'm using a after market 48 volt 15mp charge from Amazon.
My next step is to fix the original charger that came with the golf car.
I'll keep you posted with the test results. I'm still trying to figure out and learn more as I go.
Thank you for getting back to me!
@@solarT.D.I.Y.20 Wow that is an old cart. I have repaired lots of old school chargers. Most of the time it is the rectifier. I just uploaded a new video about this. I hope it helps brother... ua-cam.com/video/YbL-dEH6Vxw/v-deo.html
What about the amp drop?
All I know is the carts work as well as they did with the 6 8v batteries. They MUST be golf cart batteries! I think the batteries are ultrapower deep cycle.
I just installed 4 Duralast 27DC Group 27 Deep Cycle Marine and RV Battery.
But I'm not sure if charger needs to have a higher amp in order to charge them.
Let me know how you have been charging yours or if you can show a video would be great. Thank you foe responding.
@@solarT.D.I.Y.20 Hi Luis.. I use the club car charger the cart came with. The charger is only looking at 48v is 48v and not how many batteries are installed.