Trey Lance is the Draft’s Riskiest Quarterback (ft. Kurt Warner)
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- Trey Lance might be the draft’s most talented quarterback, but he’s also the riskiest.
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This week’s film breakdown I am joined by Kurt Warner to analyze North Dakota State Quarterback Trey Lance. Lance is a projected top 10 pick, and it’s obvious when watching him why. But, while he might be the most physically talented quarterback in the draft, he has many red flags that could become major issues in the NFL. Is he worth the risk? This episode uses the all-22 coaches film to analyze North Dakota State Quarterback Trey Lance.
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Appreciate the videos bro
Can u make another justin fields video
No, Justin Fields is
Beating Alabama as a true freshman..nuff said
Is there still a question and answer session coming with Kurt Warner as was posted in the community page?
Alex got Kurt Warner on this video? That’s some next level sh*t right there!
I'm just surprised that after watching a sh*t ton of his videos, I finally get to see WHO Alex Rollin's is! LOL! Doesn't look like I how imagined! :-)
@@itzanopinion much uglier, huh?
You’re everywhere wtf
@@BasedHadrian I am anywhere and everywhere...
I love how you re going up dude. Now we are seeing how you re now collaborating with Kurt Warner. Keep going!
Thank you man!! That means a lot! Just gotta keep going
Great job getting Kurt. This was awesome. Thanks for coming on Kurt.
It was so awesome, thanks Nathan!
Here after Lance was the 3rd Pick from SF. Need to watch more tape from this dude.
You’re leveling up bro that’s awesome. You can tell Kurt loves the game to be doing breakdowns on UA-cam when he’s set for life
Thanks Andrew!! Yeah, he was really excited about diving deep, it was cool to see him still have that passion
Kurt getting into YT really is another case as to why he is awesome
Dudes a literal hall of fame QB and still doing collabs with small youtubers you love to see it
Great for you that you got Kurt Warner for a video. I really enjoyed you two analysing him.
On Trey Lance: I know I say this with a lot of guys but I absolutely love his upside. He could really be something special but just as any prospect he also has his weaknesses. Your breakdown was (as always) phenomenal!
Thanks TC21!! Yeah man, it was thrilling no doubt. What I worry about with Lance is he gets drafted into the Shanahan system with the 49ers or Falcons. I don't think he's a fit as a highly efficient, play action bootleg type guy. I think he can succeed in a lot of systems, but that one isn't one of them
Kurt Warner's career is a testament to what you can do with a fast release and an even faster mind. Always one of my favourites to watch operate in the pocket. Great breakdown of Lance. Hope you can have him back on again.
Thanks Dan! He was and is incredible
Totally agree warner was ball in hand whoosh gone
Great breakdown Alex! Bouncing ideas off a HOF QB like Warner and hearing his take was really insightful. Glad to see your channel growing and can't wait to see what you come up with next
Thanks Ben! It was an incredible experience
Now that the 49ers drafted Trey Lance, I’m now interested as to how he’ll develop-hopefully he won’t turn into a huge bust.
Imperative he doesn't start day 1. Curious to see if it's JG who opens the season, cause it certainly should not be Lance
Jimmy will probably be the starter until he loses back to back or gets injured
@@KomodoDojo then his value diminishes. I would eat that reality if he wasn't an expensive backup.
@@mayhemlolz Jimmy G cost a second round pick to get kim, can eat that but not the 50M over the next 2 years
It's all comes down to the coaches now... see how he turns out
I feel like whatever team drafts him does it with the knowledge that he needs to sit for a few years and that he isn't going to be ready
We said the same thing for Herbert and mahomes I think he’ll be fine
@@1hendrixx7 yeah but Herbert is a little different. Anyone who watched him saw an elite arm in an offense that didn't exactly fit his skill set. Lance tbh looks more like he's taking advantage of the weaker competition rather than being THAT much better than everyone.
He’s obviously a 3rd- 5th round QB I don’t get why he has so much hype.
@@kingtriton1975 eh I mean he shows some real talent just needs some grooming. For a team that has an older established qb and looking for someone to coach up I could see him going early. Plus teams are just so impatient in finding that long term qb that teams will always reach when they see talent.
Jamari Baker mahomes actually sat one year
I feel like no one really watches Trey Lance tape. Trey panics in the pocket anytime there is pressure and he runs. Yes, he pulls it off sometimes, but he panics when guys are open and doesn't have poise in the pocket. I'm no GM, but I don't understand how everyone thinks he's that good. I think he doesn't read the field well and you cant teach a guy to make reads better at this point.
I agree. I don't see why people think Lance is so good.
Dude! That's what I've been saying and no one's listening! Except you and Kurt! This guys lack of accuracy depresses me. It feels like the 49ers made this pick because of fan pressure. I'm so sick of this current culture! This guy is NOT Pattrick Mahomes, or Deshawn Watson! Kurt nailed it, you can't teach accuracy! He doesn't have a high cealing if he can't get the ball in a tight window. He's Colon Kaepernick 2.0
@@billschuler8157 Kaepernick was my pro comp for Lance.
from what I have seen he's a good running QB who's very athletic and when someone like this comes around people are willing to ignore everything else just because their athletic
Mate, this is such hysterical nonsense. Every single game we have from this kid is from when he was a 19 year old redshirt freshman. It's not like he was the son of former professional QB either, so I'm going to have to call bullshit on how you can't teach a guy to make reads better at this point. This is actually the ideal time to teach him how to make such reads. *If he was a 24 year old rookie QB like Kaepernick was, then I would agree that you might have a point.* He isn't that though.
I know people say “never clicked so fast in my life”- but seriously.. NEVER CLICKED SO FAST IN MY LIFE!!
Haha thank you brother!
Finally, the video I've been waiting for.
This was really, really cool. Thanks for getting Kurt Warner to share his knowledge on Trey Lance.
Thanks TLD! It was my honor, there's a chance he'll be back on in the future too!
The fact that he's having accuracy issues is due to his lack of reps. He's only thrown like 320 times in his career so it doesn't worry me. He'll definitely improve with playing time
When you gonna make the I was wrong about Justin Herbert video
The media with Mac Jones as SF pick "if he doesn't lead the team to the super bowl with the 3rd pick, the entire staff should be fired!'
Media with Lance as pick "such a great and inspiring person that even if he sits for 2 years, he was worth 3 first round picks."
Double talk double standards and a push to unnaturally redefine the position.
I mean Lance is basically straight out of high school so hes very boom or bust
As with every player
Lance is gonna be the next Josh Allen, or out of the league or a career backup in 3 years. No in between
Colin kap he remind me of
@@moalston4203 def not ..thats more kellen mond
If he sits a year he will be alright. He needs to sit and learn as much as possible
Josh Allen made Trey Lance some money. They both had their inconsistencies in college, but the powerful arm and running ability will translate to the next level. I think someone is gonna fall in love with him in the first round. The Broncos and Vikings comes to mind
Very concise but detailed Alex, well done for getting Kurt on your channel! Lots of love from 🇬🇧
Thanks bro!! Appreciate the support from across the pond!
My man! You got Kurt Warner for a vid!
HOF and some of these players can become that if they play amazing there whole career
Dude!!
@@moalston4203 ok....
Keep up the great work. Having Kurt Warner on to breakdown film with you made this breakdown an even more enjoyable experience!
Thanks brother!
It all comes down to the team that drafts Lance. If he goes to the 9ers or falcons, he’s gonna be good.
Yeah he has to go somewhere he can sit on the bench behind an established veteran and learn for a season or two
Carson wentz 2.0 watch....
@@cremdeniro237 wow I wonder why you’re making that comparison 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@DirectFireDave bc they played in the same college? Whats with the facepalm
Have to watch this one again now that the 49ers have selected him. I'm a little indifferent about the selection. I wanted Justin Fields, but Trey Lance I guess would have been the second choice. I'm really concerned in regards to what people are saying about his accuracy issues, but I guess Shanahan saw something where he believed he can either fix, or mitigate in that arena. Lance definitely has the potential to be a really good player though, and the Shanahan offense will definitely evolve with him behind center. I do pray he can make that transition to where he can be a quality pocket passer at the next level. Crazy that he's only 20. Steve McNair, who I believe was the last FCS quarterback to go that high at 3rd overall in 1995 made it happen. Perhaps Lance can as well.
Kurt said it best in the third play where he talked about Lance struggling with technique. I don't think he has mechanical issues, but problems with technique which is much easier to fix. I'm real worried if they trade JG and Lance has to start day 1, but if Lance can sit for a while I like it
Personally, I feel like this selection would have never been made had Josh Allen not had his breakout season with the Bills last year.
Solid video, great getting Kurt's insights. Curious his thoughts on how to coach up QBs that struggle with timing/anticipation on what should be high percentage completions and what to do with a player that can't develop a third read?
I don't know why the NFL Network isn't having Warner breakdown the QB's in this year's draft. Nobody cares what David Carr thinks.
True lol I would trust Kurt's advice over Carrs
Facts man
Or at least to the degree of depth like we went into in this episode. David Carr could definitely do it, NFLN just doesn't deep dive
Man I always like to think I know more than the avg person about football, but it’s always cool to hear things you Didn’t even know you didn’t know when it came to football.
Always always always learning
Facts!!
It was awesome for me to see where I was right or wrong on things, definitely learned a lot from Kurt
@@AlexRollinsNFL Yeah I feel that bro! Keep
Up the good work! Love your channel dude!
Here after the niners traded him .. how quickly things changed, wish him the best
Making timing throws is a huge weakness, he waits for the receiver to get open.
Im doubling down now, i want Trey Lance on the 49ers.
Will take at least one year for him sitting down to be ready, I don’t really care but there are some people who don’t want jimmy.... do you want him at least one more year to develop lance?
@@eliasgonzalez5357 I agree, I just hope that if Kyle decides Jimmy g isn’t the answer anymore, he makes the right choice with #3 pick, I’m thinking it’s fields
@@eliasgonzalez5357 Kyle has already said he's not trading Jimmy this year.
@@eliasgonzalez5357 i year is a lot shorter then the 2-3 that Fields is going to need to b ready. Fields needs way more development then trey lance does.
@@gpfc8179
Should not be picking any of these guys to come in and play immediately. Only one who's ready is Lawrence.
Fields is already a finished product and needs his whole throwing motion reworked, it's gonna be difficult to fix that in an ex baseball player. He also has zero idea how to run a pro style offense, unlike Trey.
Holy shit man. That’s cool as hell. Good for you getting Kurt Warner on the show. Great video!!
Thanks Matt!! It was awesome to hear him break down film
Dude spent all year getting better at those specific things. His head is way more steady now at his two to days... I'm all in if my niners take him at three
I still wish we'd never traded up. Looks like we traded up to pick the guy who was still going to be there and sacrificed the help he could have gotten from those picks as he began to get starts.
Awesome video. I appreciate your connection with Warner.
Because He was not a transcendent prospect, I’ve noticed he really gets how to analyze the “non-pro day” traits it takes to be a successful quarterback.
Thanks Isaac! Kurt was incredible, his insight was awesome
Love seeing Kurt break down Lance. 49ers fan here. So nervous about this pick. I don't know if he was the right guy. I zeroed in on the same issues - processing complex defensive looks and accuracy off that. Especially on any boot looks. In Kyle's offense its very basic throws but it has to be thrown quickly like we see fits Jimmy Gs skill set. He usually makes the right reads and is on schedule with the throws. Lance will need time to develop that same beat and brain to excel in Kyle's scheme.
Great points!
Always had nothing but respect for Kurt. Hard not to like and respect this man. 💪
He was so great, and was incredibly passionate about breaking down film. Just a nerd like me 🤓
Super cool collaboration. Glad u finally get recognition from a hall of fame quarterback
Josh Allen got better with this accuracy and consistency while in the NFL, we'll see if the Niners can duplicate that by keeping Lance on the sidelines for a year.
We mustn't forget how far off Alex's evaluation of Justin Herbert was. It's almost impossible to tell how inconsistency as a trait translates to the NFL. You can find misses to the bubble for any QB, so that film really doesn't mean much to me. Technique can be corrected on the next level, while physical traits are much harder to address later on. Additionally, it really doesn't hurt to miss on a QB in the draft. Darnold and Rosen, 3rd and 10th overall in '18, both didn't work out at their first teams but were traded for decent compensation, leaving their respective orgs in a position to throw another dart.
Tbf nearly everyone was off on Justin Herbert. Style of offenses makes crazy differences in the nfl
This is some next level stuff!!!! Great content
Facts and Lions fans want this guy at 7th overall smh but hey the HOF Superbowl winning QB don't know shit smh lol
Thanks brother!!
AlexRollinsNFL📈📈keep up the top quality content
Yessir!! Thanks JT brother!!
That last play, the defense looks like a 2 deep man version of a robber zone, or man 1 robber. The angle route I've always heard called Texas. The QB looking left early looks like the WR ran the wrong route, or QB/WR read the D differently. Cool video.
Thanks brother!
I have him second. Behind Zach Wilson. But the ceiling is higher. Alex Rollins and Kurt Warner may know the game, but they won't want to rewatch this in two years.
Great video Alex. Very eye-opening stuff for real
Thanks brother! I relate to your name way way too much
Alex has Kurt on the videos!? When are you getting a show on TV?
When he sells his pride to ESPN or disney ...dont do it brother
Man this is just awesome editing.
Thanks Asma!! All the credit to Kurt for his analysis
Holly cow! Woke up this morning made my self some oatmeal, coffee and mirrored this episode on my 70 inch tv. Great video! One of my favorites so far. Speaking for my 49ers, I don't have patience and can't wait for this kid to develop! Niners are made to win now so we need a more ready QB like Fields or Wilson.
And neither are ready, that’s why they are most likely going to go with jimmy g
@@eliasgonzalez5357 mac Jones
@@famousdre843 gotta be a smokescreen, everyone says Kyle likes pocket qbs like Kirk Cousins, but SF was also willing to go all in for getting Watson, so it wouldn’t make sense to trade to 3 for Mac Jones, who was never expected to go that early anyways
@@gpfc8179 yea who knows maybe he go to 49ers
How'd the oatmeal turn out?
I remember asking for this a few weeks back, appreciate it!!
I was hoping Kurt would come on for Trey Lance, I was saving the Lance episode!
There’s no 49ers organization without risks
I think the success of Trey Lance is going to depend on the team he gets drafted to. I don't think he got the proper coaching at the school he went to. He has an elite skill set, but he needs the right organization and coaching staff to get him there. Imagine if the 49s took him, or the Patriots. As a Lions fan I hope they draft him at 7. Anthony Lynn helped mold Herbert, let him do that to Lance too.
Amazing video!! Thank you for this!!
Thanks Stephen bro!!
As an oline guy if you look closely they shoud have called down be ause it alerts anyone to look middle and see who's coming free. On that case the center should have picked up the blitz.
Fantastic video Alex and Kurt. Thank you.
Thanks Paul!! So blessed
This is so sick bro. Been with you since like under 5k and if I could have bought stock in you I would have put up the farm. Great work out hhere
Thank you so much bro!! I appreciate you rocking with me so much!
Man, this was great 👍! You have a new subscriber.
Thanks Sidney!!
Kurt Warner is my favorite player ever 👏👏👏👏
He was great! So kind too
Crazy how this dude got taken above Justin but I'm happy about it
This guy still hasn’t apologized to Justin Herbert LOL
All of your predictions from last year were wrong. Trey lance is going to be amazing
Even Jimmy with a busted thumb, they did not want to roll Lance out. That speaks volumes as to where he's at. He's most likely going to bust.
U was wrong bout Herbert like I said on that video, and your wrong here! He’s not a “ son of “ Qb but he’s better then every other qb here including Lawrence ( idk bout fields tho that boy a monster 👹
great job getting kurt warner, keep going 💪💪
Thanks Elyes!
Wow, it's really him!
Ok fine I admit it. I deep faked my sister as Kurt
Mr Warner was the only analyst that kept a buck with his evaluation of Lance ....in my opinion his bust factor is more the 35% I want to say 40 which makes taking him in the top 10 crazy
I have a question. Is there any chance Trey Lance’s struggles with accuracy and inconsistency were the result of bad mechanics / footwork issues? I read that Trey Lance worked with QB coach John Beck and that they were able to identify and fix a few problems in his mechanics/footwork, and that fixing those issues would help sure up his accuracy. Is that true, or is that just an over simplification to be like (1) Trey was inaccurate because of this issue (2) This issue is fixed (3) Now he’s more accurate?
Or can fixing / tweaking a few small things with his mechanics really help improve his accuracy issues?
Disclaimer : Despite the fact that I’m a big football / 49ers fan, I have absolutely zero ability breakdown / analyze a QB. So this might be a stupid question.
Yes, Kurt talked about some of his technique issues in the video. It's more technique issues which are easier to fix, than mechanical issues
Nice. It seems like the more you learn about Lance, the more you like him. Physical tools, extremely intelligent, hard working, very dedicate and eager to learn and improve his craft. Seems like his ceiling, especially in a Shanahan offense, is off the charts!
@@zachf748 Agreed!
I love lance and I think a team like the 49ers should draft him high rewards high ceiling qb. I love what I see in him and I think Kyle can get alot out of trey lance
Nah he's not worth trading all the picks that the 49erd gave up. You gotta take the more sure prospect in Fields or Wilson
Problem is that it’ll take at least one year
Hey Alex, the fact Thayer he only threw 287 passes all year, averaging only 18 passes per game and throwing for more than 20 passes only 4 times, should be something to worry??
That's a great question, I think it's definitely a concern seeing as he isn't a very polished prospect at this point in time plus basically missing all of 2020. Not a deal breaker, but certainly a concern
Great vid, also just so you know the plural of Bison is bizon lol
Trey gon *SLAY*
Great VID bro
Thanks brother!
Awesome sauce bro.
This is my go-to channel now. Alex is 1000x’s better than Grant “iggy” Cohn
I could be wrong but NDSU version of 525 F post looks kinda like arches with the corner shallow and short post?
525 f post and arches are the same concept!
Wow, it’s getting serious! Nice job with Warner!
Thanks Brian!!
Great video Alex! How are you gonna top this!?
Just wait until next week! (aka can't top it)
I still can’t believe you said Justin Herbert will be a bust..
I think out of the teams that drafted QBs this year, the niners were probably the only team that could take this risk because they still have jimmy g. If the niners were drafting a qb I wonder how far trey lance would have fell
I could be wrong, but I don't think JG is happy. I'd be surprised if he started week 1 and I'd also be surprised if Lance started week 1. Will be fascinating to watch it play out.
@@AlexRollinsNFL one thing I can say for sure, if I was jimmy g I wouldn’t be happy either. It’s never a comfortable feeling when the company you work for hires your replacement. However, jimmy g is a competitor and known as a team leader in the 49er locker room. I would be very surprised if he didn’t play week 1...assuming he is healthy. It’s Jimmy’s job to keep but Trey’s job to win. Either way get your popcorn ready.
@@AlexRollinsNFL So, who is going to start week 1?
@@lindatinjum2944 I think it will be Jimmy, Trey's thrown the LEAST passes for a first QB ever. Nothing against him, but it wouldn't be ideal to throw him in week 1
He went to the perfect place in SF
You may recognize my name, been a long time fan/viewer. what a great vid bring in Kurt Warner. keep doing big things. love the content.
Of course CC, thanks bro! Just gotta keep grinding away, appreciate ya
Great one.
I set my Alarm to just wake and watch this video!
Ok good to know
@@moalston4203 You know you didn’t had to reply??
@@jjrolltide you know what you right... i said what i had to say what is next
@@jjrolltide so what going on you pick
Hell yeah man!! Hope you liked it!
I believe it is Zach Wilson. Everything about Wilson is so much hype of his skills which reminds me of past media hype QBs ( saying no names). So far the Jets giving Wilson his College playbook to use in pre season ( BYU s plays involved Wilson to avoid any hit) and understand reasons to get him ready to take on a full season. Yeah, many Wilson fans trolling me but Ive seen this script before of past 4 decades of watching, coaching , playing ect of these type of media hype QBs. Im not saying he has no skills because its there. Its just we havnt seen enough situations of him getting back on his feet to get the next big play. It is the issue of how he will handle those situations once everything is said and done. Trevor Lawrence play of pre season shows he is trying too much to read every read to make his choice on targets but he will be fine as long as the HC convinces him to be more like Zach and take easy plays first as he already gotten up plenty of times of his College Airtime showings. If you want to troll me, just let it be and wait later to prove me wrong.. Said this of Tua over JHerbert of a bigger risk last year...
Trey is another cam !
I just can't believe the Niners passed on Fields to take THIS big of a risk. They just staked it all, not just HC and GM, but the careers of all their starters...Peaks like George Kittle's of being among the top 5 or 10 in the league are only 4 years long. Witness JJWatt's wasted peak 2013-15 made less meaningful due to Matt Shaub's implosion, then years of Hoyer, Mallet, Osweiller. 2018 his final year of being totally unblockable Watson's there and by then....the OL collapsed.
No more riskier than any other quaterback drafted. There all a roll of the dice
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Yes, but Lance is riskier than the others for many reasons. One of which is that he has the fewest attempted passes in college of any first-round QB in history
I think the niners are in love with trey Lance
fire vid
Early! Btw how do you get up close clips of players?
The game film or the other clips?
TREY AREAAAAAAA
That you E40?
Kurt? Alex is on the come up
Cool to see Jim tressel’s penguins on the film
Every player from college is risky even none QB position. It always boils down to the coaching staff on how they can groom and acclimate them to the NFL.
Lance needs to go late 1st round to early 2nd round imo. If he starts in his rookie year. He’ll be a backup the rest of his career.
My biggest thing is seeing as we continue the run heavy scheme, I wonder if Shanahan will limit Trey when he fails on 3rd down. Could ruin his confidence like it did for Jimmy G.
Jimmy G only issue is that he gets injured
@@ernestogastelum9123 sure Jan
legendary video
Thanks brother!
What do you think is most likely to happen if 49ers get rid of Jimmy and. lance starts day one?
You can tell who the casual fans are in the comments. Trey's playing style isn't even close to Josh Allens or Mahomes at all
😭 I wish you could've won Larry a Super bowl
No worries 49er fans this guy also said Herbert would be a big bust
As much hype as trey has been building, he needs to sit for at least a year and learn. Otherwise he’ll get grilled and most likely won’t bounce back.