Can you turn Peat into Fuel Briquettes with Hydraulic Press?
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- Can you make Peat Fuel Briquettes with Hydraulic Press? and will they burn? Peat is "semi-fossil" fule that is made out of thousands years old swamp material like dead plants, trees etc.
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In Ireland we use a tool called a sleán to cut it into bricks and stack these up to dry all summer to use as fuel in the Winter
You can also use a specialised machine to cut the turf into briquettes. Using a Sleán is hard work.
In Shetland we use a tool called a tushkar
@@DaGizmoGuy tairsgear down here in the western isles
In my part of the Yorkshire Pennines it's just called a peat knife. You want to go for the darker coloured stuff. Just cut it into bricks, stack them (gently), and let them dry. commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Peat_Knife__-geograph.org.uk-__1341787.jpg
@@timharris3292 also called a peat iron in English here, is peat cutting still common in Yorkshire?
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@@radix4801 I don't know why I found this comment so funny lol
Gotta love alchemy
Peat is a smokeless fuel
@@anow1693 its really funny 🤣🤣
Peat is a common fuel in parts of Scotland and Ireland. It burns more like coal, so there is little flame compared with wood but it smoulders and makes hot embers when you burn a full load of it. Like a coal fire it benefits from being burnt on a grate to allow air flow from below, up through the embers. Wood prefers to be burnt on a bed of ash with air drawn in from the sides.
My grandma used it to keep the fire going over night.
You just place one in the oven (she had a coal fired stove in the kitchen) and it kept smouldering over night. In the morning, you just add some wood and get a fire going in no time. Also heats the house and is quite safe, as it burns slowly
The smoke is good for keeping the midges away too 🙂
@@christophpoll784 I used to do the same thing with my coal burner before bed: Throw a generous scoop on and once it got going, cover it with ash, then poke a single hole in it so it doesn't smother completely. Slow heat all night. Then in the morning, I'd give it a quick stir with the poker and I'd have an instant ember bed.
I've lived in Ireland around 7 years now, and I like the laziness of peat - you can set a fire going and ignore it for hours, then just top it up a bit. I use coal to burn wet/non dry wood though, it has vastly more joules/kg.
It smells fookin lovely too :D Nostalgic of visits to my grannys house
“It’s designed to extrude shit” my favorite quote
Mine was
*"It's surprisingly moist"*
Mine was "Briquette Maker 5000000"
There are a few videos on UA-cam about pressing leaves into briquettes/logs for heating. I, for one, would love to see you guys make your own version of leaf based briquettes!
That's pretty cool, do the leaves not smoke a lot though?
@@ChuckRage, one of the videos I watched, was of an older gentleman who collected leaves, mixed them with starch as a binder, hydraulically pressed the "logs", & then dried them before use. They seemed to burn like other composite logs.
I'll see if I can find the video & share the link.
@@doublejaylar awesome thanks!
@@ChuckRage
It has been many years since I saw it. But it was similar to this one. ua-cam.com/video/hFSVtJbpHF8/v-deo.html
My father had a "press" to make bricks from newspaper. Merely like a french fries maker but closed on all sides or was it a mold mounted into workbench? But now I have no fireplace, just natural gas heating in the flat. And it also was only for small green house heating.
That thing would burn for hours, smoky for sure. I would bake it for an hour at 350, to really dry it out
When it takes more energy to make your briquette than you get out of it..... :-)
@@fewwiggle isn’t that the same with charcoal? You cook wood to get fuel?
At 350 what?
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@@ThePaalanBoy PSI :-)
You could press bread and look if it works like a heat shield too afterwards. It is a pretty good heatshield in it's natural state already so it would be interesting if pressing it makes it better or worse.
actually wouldn't work, the reason it's good shield is of the air 'balloons' inside. If you crush it, you lose the balloons.
AvE turned bread into carbon foamy which is a great insulator. ua-cam.com/video/Wex_yKfrTo4/v-deo.html
Loaf press!
OK, seems to work this time. I too expect the insulation will be worse when crushed. But a test if it really is that way would still be fun.
@@kjdude8765 another one ua-cam.com/video/FmEb1YZScxc/v-deo.html
At first I thought it was cow manure. LOL
Funny thing, in the Texas High Plains, they used to burn dried cow 'chips' or manure.
There are no native trees up there.
My grandfather would on his farm. He didn't have cows but the neighbors farm had a few. The had an agreement to watch each others farm when they were there cuz neither were out there everyday. It works great to start a fire, just make sure its dry 1st
@@that1guy82 "just make sure its dry 1st" Hahah
1) Don't use wet shit :D
Same thing
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Onex - Very few of us watching saw it. The spider is a very deadly Huntsman.
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"it looks like you could you it as a heat shield on spacecraft" nearly brought me to tears laughing
"So now it's briquette maker 5 million" Even after all this time, this still made me fucking laugh. Why does that joke never get old?
2:29 RIP spider homie
spider was on the inside lip of plastic!! he ok! if you watch carefully you'll see :D
@@realflow100 he lived and now he will breed into billions of spiders 😤
I think they would make good patties for vegetarian burgers.
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probably taste better
@Daniel Meyers yes. Awful.
It cracked from the mouisture trying to escape when you dried it out at the end, you should have dried the bits first in the oven then pressed it down into the briquette
Where I live peat was (and occasionally still is) used as fuel in homes. Peat works as a fuel because, when prepared traditionally (cut into blocks, built into walls with gaps, then wind dried for months outside in various different arrangements to dry out all sides of the blocks), you end up with all the moisture out, but there will still the hydrocarbon fuel left in it. That is what burns. When you look at peat banks, you can often see the blue oily sheen in it. I think compressing it and drying it at such a high temperature in the masonry oven has probably evaporated the remaining fuel, and all the rest is just compressed moss that isn't very flammable at all.
The different colours are probably different levels of decomposition - the black peat will be more decomposed (basically, getting closer to coal than being soil).
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I just poured a glass of peated Scotch, refreshed UA-cam, and...oho.
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Peated Scotch? I've never heard of that - you've turned me on to something new and interesting! How do you like it? It sounds a little strange to me, but I suppose the high carbon content would act in a similar manner to scorched oak barrels, essentially removing impurities. Is it smoother than regular scotch?
@@saml7610When drying the malted barley they can use burning peat as the heat source. This imparts a smoky flavor.
Laphroaig?
@@timothybarney7257 Ardbeg An Oa
You could also try bales of straw or shredded paper! I remember my grandmother making her own "logs" using damp newspapers compressed into a brick and dried.
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My local store once sold charcole briquettes that were impossible to light, now i know how they did it
Had me laughing when you said "its surprisingly moist" ...
That’s what she said.
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Why not put the pre-pressed moss into the brick oven? Dry it before it presses and the water can escape more easily
The smell alone makes a turf (aka. peat) fire absolutely worth it. It's incredibly comforting, homely and instantly recognisable too!
In Canada we used to have a product called Presto Logs, they were essentially sawdust pressed into long cylinders that resembled logs. It was difficult to get them to light on fire but after they were lit they burned nicely.
Still do. They still suck.
I thought it would work as fuel, but my expectations were shattered
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It does work as a fuel. You can look it up on Wikipedia, it used to be quite normal way to heat up your home until like mid 20th century in some regions. I think the problem is that it was compressed way too much. The traditional way to do this is just to make brick-sized blocks out of it and then let them dry in sun. Their compressed blocks were probably too dense to burn in normal conditions, it would probably need much more heat to catch fire, like in the power plants that Lauri has mentioned.
@@ToKro yeah in order to really get this kind of thing to burn it needs to be a pressurized fire, it just won't work very well like this.
If it wasn't so compressed it would indeed burn better than fire wood in a normal fire like this.
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The air between the fibers is probably the magic sauce that makes peat good for fire starting.
Pressed peat briquettes were very popular fire material in Estonia up to mid nineties or maybe even later. There are lots of peat bogs in Estonia and a lot of hoseholds with ovens used briquettes as main fuel. You must start the fire with wood and then add the briquettes. They catch fire slowly but once you have them burning they burn like hell and give a lot more heat than wood. Must be careful because lots of unexperienced briquette burners literally fried their ovens.
“Briquette maker 5 million” 😂
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Usually, in factories where charcoal is made, they put the raw materials into a dryer before pressing in briquettes. I also believe they add corn starch to the materials as they're preparing the press them.
I used to design cylindrical enclosures for oceanographic instrumentation and some were designed to go extremely deep. There is data for piston style O-ring applications. Clearances must be extremely small. Also, O-rings are made in various hardnesses (durometer). What is not well known to many is that O-rings must move when under pressure. They no longer have the original cross section, but cram tightly towards the seam where they might be pushed out. The cross section becomes sort of triangular under high pressure or perhaps a little more accurately sort of like a piece of a pie shape. Higher pressure situations also can pose a risk. If something leaks, then there can be high pressure INSIDE with low pressure outside such as you standing next to it. When disassembling the item, it can have the effect of an explosion. For this reason, sometimes bleed screws are added to the design which can be safely loosened to vent possible internal pressure. Or the enclosure can first be filled with an inert liquid which, of course, can't compress. I don't think there was any internal pressure risk in the experiment here because there just wasn't that much volume compressed in the first place.
"doesn't seem dry enough"
could also be those large holes in the plate.
I can’t believe it made a PERFECT piece of plywood, but then refused to burn! What a rollercoaster of emotion.
The beat briquette used to be quite common heating material quite lately in Estonia. I do not know how was it made, but I suspect something similar way you did. Note: Lighter material has more not decomposed material thus burning, dark one is close to the regular dirt what is unburnable.
That would be perfect ecological, fireproof building material actually.
I defenitly need an explanation why the cute "Slimer" had to be crushed.
Because it very dangerous, so they must deal with it.
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@@GOAT_GOATERSON Thank you. I missed him saying that. I haven't been on this channel for a while and I wondered if he didn't say that anymore.
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Her: after touching it, jaa
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Here in Scotland a lot of rural towns and houses like to use Peat as a heating fuel. My Gran used to sleán a load of Peat in the summer and store it in a drying shed for when winter came. I loved the earthy smell from burning Peat in the winter.
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*FUN FACT:* The water in Loch Ness takes on a nice reddish brown colour which is caused by rain water draining through the Peat on the hills. This Peaty water is also drinkable, basically you can literally drink straight from the Loch water and to those not in the know (tourists etc) it looks like you are drinking muddy water, lol.
I run a machine shop also and I mess with magnesium a lot. I mixed some magnesium shavings into some sawdust and pressed them into a briquette. Them suckers burn real hot!
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Next time you're out in the peat bog, find one of those ancient bog bodies and use it for the extra content. Those things are scary.
Before I watched this, I saw a video on the traditional Irish practices of harvesting peat. They let it dry in the sun for months.
In germany peat was cut directly from the ground in shape of bick bricks traditionally and used as a fuel when dried. Still sometimes in summer when it is to hot, peat fires occur, where the fire crawls under the ground surface and the firefighters have to cut barriers in the ground and soak the whole area with water
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In Ireland there has been a company called Bord Na Mona who produced compacted peat moss (called briquettes) for burning as fuel. My dad worked for them for several years fixing and maintaining the machinery. They are a long-burning efficient fuel source but peat is not easily renewable as far as I know...takes many years for it to form in the ground
In civil geotechnical engineering we occasionally have to dry samples of peat soils to characterize their organic content. We do this in an oven at about 100 degrees Celsius for 12 to 24 hours.
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Peat is quite hot topic in Finland since we have a LOT of it but it's kind of fossil fuel so not the most eco friendly thing to burn. And you ruin the swamp when you dig all the peat out.
@@HydraulicPressChannel interesting. My dad was telling me a lot of people heat their homes with peat in Ireland a couple years ago. And as an American I couldn’t believe people actually burned with what’s basically dirt
@@HydraulicPressChannel Ooh yeah, that would mean it's not sustainable either.
@@HydraulicPressChannel "Hot topic" I see what you did there, because you burn it
@@HydraulicPressChannel yup. it's literally removing already fully sequestered carbon... and releasing it back into the atmosphere. we need to find a way to MAKE peat, not burn it!
I love the simplicity of this channel just going to put this shit in here no fancy jump cut's or over complicated explanations
We got some old technique in an area thats called „ hohes venn“ where our grandparents cut „torf“ into chunks , piled them into small towers and let the wind dry it. An it worked as fuel for a long time , but what you are trying seems like lighting a diamond by a match 😎. The cracks are occurring because the puck takes moisture back from its surrounding air ( similar to a compressed dry compressed sponge ) , so solution: less force , more natural drying and it should work. ( the old process took up to 6 month to get from wet stuff to usable fuel““
Well thats actually how fuel briquettes are made, using hydraulic technology.
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🤣🤣 True dat
we use to make waste paper bricks from wet newspaper the summer before needed much inn the same way only with a smaller press ... worked great !
I would stick to using it to improve garden soil. I think it would burn better with very little compression but that was interesting.
2:28 Hello spider friend.
I will never get over the fact that you say "hoo-draulic press"
Saw on their vlog once that they didn't realize they were mispronouncing hydraulic until like a year after they released their first video. But by then they felt that their "incorrect" pronunciation was part of their brand, so they are now intentionally mispronouncing it.
In some languages, the "y" makes such a sound.
That poor green ghost looks like he was trying to give you a hug
Australia used to have a "brown coal" power plant, story I've been told it that half the heat it generated was used to dry the "brown coal" and only the other half was used to generate electricity.
Can we get a petition going to change the channel to the “Hoodrolic press” channel?
But then it would be pronounced differently.
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@Hydraulic Press Channel Been watching/subscribed since basically the beginning. Why not use dried cow manure in the press for fuel briquettes? I know that you can burn dried cow droppings. Give this a try.
who the hell would click a video with a thumbnail that says "5000 years old plants"? that doesn't even parse as English
... fack I clicked it just to say that. YOU WIN THIS ROUND
We have peat fuel briquettes in Finland and they work just fine, just produces lot of ashes. My parents used to burn them for few years back in the 90s. The peat tiles looked so weird as a kid and i didn't think they would burn at first.
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Well, it kinda looked like sub-bituminous coal.
I was looking for a lignite coal comment. Yours is the closest so far.
That would be more correct Nicole. Greetings from Wyoming!
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The brown peat I think has iron in it. The brown is the oxidation of the iron. People use to get metal from peat along time ago to forge farming, hunting, cooking and fighting implements.
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I wonder if you added an accelerant before pressing it if it would work. Like lighter fluid or kerosene or somthing
Paraffin wax would work, it can't evaporate and it would reduce the friction while pressing.
My gut feeling says no. In that case, I would imagine that the accelerant would start burning but the actual peat still wouldn't burn.
Irish people have been using peat for fuel for centuries. Peat smoked whisky is amazing.
FYI something compressed to this degree is not porous enough to allow oxygen to penetrate to allow combustion. You Will merely scorch the outside until it wears away. Fire bricks are very porous and contains wax that will melt away allowing combustion. If you mix this with wax and compress it less it will then burn like a fire brick.
You basically made lignite, a form of low grade coal.
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This is hilarious 😂
I'm making briquettes in a small press, some I roll up in my hands and latest trials are with a Coffee tin and Jam jar homemade press. It's working brilliantly
But with Coffee and Wood shavings that I leave to Compost first. A two hour burn is easily achieved.
Brilliant video. Thank you
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They sell bricks of compressed peat for fuel in Ireland called briquettes, they burn really hot like coal but only if the fire is already hot. They’re smoky, produce a lot of ash but they burn for so long it keeps the fire going all night.
Now raise the pressure and make diamonds and make that REAL UA-cam money!
Now we know how fruitcake is really made!
peat wood is actually used as heat shield for sputnik spacecraft. It burns really slowly and dissipates heat.
Once you dry it then you can use it as a dense fuel brick. This is a good idea for camping. You have to mix it with some kind of fuel
Thought “dung” from thumbnail.
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Oh? If only he actually cared about shite.
I'm from the Ireland and we have being burning peat for thousands of years ,we cut peat and call it turf ,it is very good for burning,it has a lot of Ash, the Ash is useless ,it contains around 20 mj of energy per kilo ,traditionally we would cut itaround may and leave it to dry till about September, weather dependent , The Turf needs first cutting and spread on a dry surface then turned,footed ( small stacks) in general it is burned during winter ,but if left in a pile for a year it is much better as wood would be ,it can be cut by hand with a slain or in a hopper pulled by a tractor it is squeeze out like a sossage ,the light colour turf is from the top and we usually throw it back into the bog hole from last year ,the lower you go the darker the turf gets ,the better burning it is except the lower few cm ,if you look up turf cutting or peat cutting in Ireland you can learn a lot if you have time to do this then you are sitting on a very good source of fule but a lot of Ash
With normal briquettes they are not as dense but has some air in it to help burn.
You can now let the disc dry out in a dehumidifier type place to reduce the moisture down to 2-3% then it might burn.
It may not burn, but I was satisfied to see that it formed into a great brick.
“because this is not designed to make briquettes, it’s designed to extrude shit” hilarious 😂
Peat is used as a low heat fire for slow cooking, root vegetables, stews etc. Not such a hot fire for warming a room, you have to sit on top of the fire in order to get any benefit..Try spending a coastal western British winter being warmed by one.It won't be a problem if you normally live above the Arctic circle.
Make the brickets about 1/32 the size. I'm possitive size was the main problem here, but there's also some science you need to read in this comment. You also wouldn't need to dry it out if you make a vacuum mold capable of handling wet.
That needs a very large sustained fire to release all that carbon. Nothing short of a blast furnace would light that sucker.
Think about how charcoal brickets are, they don't get much bigger for a reason, they would have trouble heating up, drying out, and ultimately releasing the pent up carbon for field. It's why they often mix charcoal with things like sodium nitrate.
Keep in mind also, Carbon ignition temperature is 700c (that puny torch is never getting it there), as where carbon bi-sulfide (charcoal with "autostart") is only 149 degrees.
Consider adding a kerosene fuel or a sodium nitrate mixture when pressing the brickets. Kerosene might be easier to get your hands on, and safer to work with. However, store them wrapped in seran wrap or else it will all evaporate out.
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Being so compressed, it won't burn because air can't get to the inner surface. Even coal is pulverized to a powder before burned in power plants.
You may have accidentally discovered a marketable product. Blend the peat with material that produces color flames. Like copper dust for green and blue flames. There's other chemistry that can produce flames all colors of the rainbow.
You could mix some peat to produce different colors and do christmas or other holiday color themed bricks.
Toss em on the fire and you have colored flames for a long time since it burns so slow. We sometimes toss a bit of copper wire into the campfires yellow coals to watch the blue, purple, and green flames.
I bet it would work. I bet you could get some copper dust to do a test with. :-)
Hello guys, nice to see that you made a mold according to the drawing I sent you and as I told you then, it works wonders. Nice job !
They compress charcoal dust to make charcoal briquettes for barbecues etc. You should try and see if you can make a charcoal puck this way. And see if you can cook something with it.
That spider at 2:28 must of been terrified.
Add a portafilter receptacle, and you can use it to tamp coffee for espresso.
You should try putting the brick into a metal container and heat it up to dry out the moisture. Kind of how you put cloth in a tin can and put the can in a fire to make the cloth super flammable.
Normally compressing fire briquettes. You might need longer chamber with filter well which sometime it does break lol. Or other way is 5+ layers of 200 fine mesh place or weld it into press tool part. The mesh one is most used and easier to repair, normally you need mesh filter to extract the liquid contents out from briquette. It similar method to a french press coffee but more compressing down with pressure. I used to worked in cider factory, we had manually compress apples with giant compressing wheel for while until we move on to hydraulic juice presser which we convert into briquettes press.
You could actually use this bricks as refractory blocks for jewelry soldering ( maybe even more durable than traditional pressed charcoal bricks!)
You need to put my mother in law in your press.
She's by far the most hard faced thing I've ever come across.
Power plants pulverize their fuel in to a fine powder before they burn it, not surprised you weren't able to get that to catch