We needs prenups in India. As dowry is illegal, so should be marriage without prenups. A wife is not a liability of the husband.... what if she never married, then she should have taken care of herself throughout her life. She should continue to do that even if she married. There are circumstances, where a child's welfare should be considered equally. circumstances where the life of women were hampered due to the husband, either relocation, estragement, abuse etc. But why a normal women, educated, capable of working is treated as a liability for the husband. A husband is not responsible to these matters. Prenups make sure she can't sue you for maintenance or any of your property. If there are genuine cases, then have gender neutral laws take care of it. But it's India.... people don't have power here.
yes if so we men are not voting for any women representative for MLA or MP, or any politician who is supporting for women right, if he supporting women rights let him support for men also
BJ party and mudi responsible for this. Because they failed to fix the mess created by congr.ess in 10 years. Judiciary systems is not fixed by BJ party
If the court & judges doesn't have enough time to give proper justice then why are they even sitting there in the position in the name of justices? Are we stupid to even go to the court if they don't even have time for giving justice? Isn't that their one job to perform? WTF is wrong in this country?
Going to be 32 soon very rich family background and I have no urge to marry because I don't want my family's hard earned money to be stolen by a woman just because we got married for a day or even hours. This is pure daylight robbery. It's better to have girlfriends without strings attached Salman khan style 😅
@@vukkumsp Making strict laws makes sense, but when are these cases going to get solved? The Indian judiciary sucks. There are so many cases pending in courts. Judges take bribes. India has become a pathetic state to live in.
its already there. Section 211. its never been used. judges never uses this even for serial false accusing women gang. judges are pressurised by fem'sts.
See the mental stability of Atul. He has taken his destiny patientfully in a clear planned way. He has not attempted out of disturbance, which we normally see. One need lot of courage, clarity and determination to go through all these steps. If we take this case casually, justice in future looks to be bleaque.
Who is teaching the wives/women to file cases against the kids/old family members? The lawyer fraternity is teaching them as all of the women are not lawyers or aware of the law, however they become aggressive because they are made aware that they can do anything with impunity
@@anempath24 why do a salesman needs to nag to sell a product? If the law(the product) says that you can loot an ATM without any implications then the lawyers (salesman) would make you aware that there is no law to penalize you. In today's world, money is more important than morals. The lawyers earn their income (salesman commission) from that. The judges earn "extra" income. Finally, the women get a lottery. 😀
@@anita2053-r1f write a bond bro hirachical value of yours then mother then father then sister how she can claim it's nearly impossible as u can only decide who goes property😂😂😂
While marriage was happening, court was not in the seen, then how court will come in to picture between husband and wife When dispute happens...? Why lawyers needed in matrimonial cases?Matrimonial cases should be get closed within a year, how complex it may be the case through a seperate organisation other than a court which is governed by government...... Its better for victims of marrige scandle.....
The lawyers are the culprit .they have facilitied to turn the law to extortion.. Compensation should be complete no .judges will decide whether to be given or not. This law is forcing people not to go for marriage. Lawmaker has created imblalance in society trying to show respect for woman.if asking compensation is valid dowry should also be
@@anita2053-r1f nothing will happen if human beings extinct from world.... Some people think the purpose of life is procreation.. Thats bullshit... Just live for yourself
1 Family courts are not giving judgements fast. Decide the case in two years so that both husband and wife settle in life afresh. 2 What is the use of the judgement if it's given after 10 years. Husband naturally thinks of suicide. What is left in his life. 3 Wife in most of the cases deserts husband for her own convenience like her affair with some other person. These are facts. 4 Interim mentainance is awarded wrongly in many cases. 5 Court is not at all serious about husband's duty responsibility of his duty responsibility towards aged sick parents. Parents life is miserable. Totally nothing useful is expected in family courts. Waste of time and money .
Maintenance itself is an extortion. After divorce women should live the same standard of life before marriage not the standard of life after marriage with his money
If husband have responsibility to maintain his wife in Indian law, then why wife has not given responsibility to serve her father in law house and family.
Well if a girl leaves her job to take care of household and she does it for years then it is a given that she will be in a bad position if she were to return to job market. In this situation, if the husband initiates a divorce, who might've advanced his career a lot over the years because of the help of wife, and he leaves the wife, you can argue that the wife was defrauded as if she herself had focused over her career, she would have had a good standard of living independently and future career prospects after the divorce. That is the logic behind it.
@@harnisha91Your basic argument is flawed!! If a 24-25 Yr old "educated" girl, who remains "papa ki pari", doesn't work out of "choice", gets married, leaves husband within 6months, files all false cases, gets " interim maintenance" as long as cases run, gets into a live-in relationship and demands " alimony" for divorce ( interim maintenance, permanent maintenance, alimony - these are 3 separate things mixed up by common people) will get alimony as per your argument Bcoz she is not working? Wow!! Great logic.... And these type of cases are quite common... Leave aside this, how about this - Do you know, a "divorced ex-wife" can also claim "maintenance" u/s CrPc 125? And there are cases running in courts where " divorced ex-wife" after 4-5 yrs of divorce and " settlement", turns up in court and files maintenance case on " ex" husband? So, what Atul said and did was " cutting of the supply line".... Bcoz, as he rightly mentioned the Judiciary, System and of course the " empowered yet abla nari of India" will feed of him like vultures as long as he will live.... I'm not an ATM - This is what it boils down to.... Leave aside matrimonial cases, Rape cases are getting " settled" - obviously NCRB statistics gives testimony that 76% of rape cases are false.... And now with BNS 69 introduced, it will be really great - you don't get pay hike - file rape case, you don't get promotion--file rape case and walk away laughing to the bank with entire "retirement fund" into the kitty paid by the VP of the Company.... Who wants to work? Lead a lavish life style, keep a boyfriend to satisfy the physical needs and of course be the flag bearer of " Feminism"...
@@arunabh69 who asked her not to focus on career she wanted easy life she took it, moreover what is wrong in a fixed pay for basic needs and child care? How can they demand more just because husband is capable of paying
@@rohi1255 one person can easily live on 8k/month, why should he be responsible for your "GOOD STANDARD OF LIVING", he can be responsible for your basic needs for food, accommodation for 3-4 years, but LUXURIES ? lets be fair in this. If one person can get money for doing nothing everyone will just choose that. Then as a husband i will take care of household chores you go work on the streets, i ll eat and sleep at home, if we divorce ill ask you to pay me half of your assets, hard work, your future pension, your parents assets, and will file cases on your mother, father, brother, sister and force you to pay even more. 50-50 what a simple life right.
@@anempath24 not it's not. If wife demand money from cancer patients then we will file a case again wife under domestic violence for mental Harrasment . We will file a case against police officer who did bias investigation and do not mentioned that he is cancer patients . We file case against wife for making false case. We need laws to make judges accountable. Our maintenance laws are very good . Wife do not have right on husband property. Working wife do not get money. In Atuls case his wife knows that he will not get maintenance that's why she file so many cases to make court proceedings lengthy so that she can claim interim maintenance. Only 25% of salary should go for interim maintenance according to law , but judge misuses it. So we need laws to make judges accountable. What changes you will do in our maintenance law? 498a is domestic violence law. Which is highly misused. We need laws to prosecute who file false 498A case.
If the court & judges doesn't have enough time to give proper justice then why are they even sitting there in the position in the name of justices? Are we stupid to even go to the court if they don't even have time for giving justice? Isn't that their one job to perform? WTF is wrong in this country?
Just cancel all law related to alimony system . In olden days the men earned the money and the women has no choice so they depend on us. But today scenario is changed . Today lot of women occupied higher position , obtained any jobs (very easily) and even earned self sufficient money to survive on this society. So i wonder why we have to keep that outdating law in moderndays??
Ma'am! I also am a victim of false 498a & unjust maintenance😂😂😂! The duration of my marriage with my wife is just 17 days....😂😂😂! She left me for ever filing a bunch of false matrimonial & dv cases! Possibly she is in live in relationship but myself can't go for either a live-in-partner or a legal wife due to these life-threatening dv/divorce cases 😂😂😂
My duration was 10 days. I faced the same. After long battle i won. She married me just to make her boyfriend jealous. She never consummated marriage and wanted a huge amount of money to settle. When we refused we faced all cases. This is reality of india.
@hsk7717 Patience is bitter but it's fruit is sweet brother! And too much cunning overreaches itself! You are possibly happy and free from burden now but go to your miserable ex wife and see that she is swimming over the drain of agony, societal disgrace, despair and suicidal ideation due to the lose of golden goose! This is called 'harvest of sin!'
Bs. If family is broken. Children must be taken over by monasteries or govt. And adults must be left alone without access to their children. All these bs laws are arbitrary
People are loosing trust to get married, I asked many people they say they don't want to marry if our laws are not fixed including myself. Our some laws are completely biased towards women. The whole institutional marriage system will disturbed if law is not fixed and ultimately it's a loss of government too, India fertility rate will further decrease which will affect the economy and tax burden to next generation also.
02:06 even when a man commits suicide, the allegations he made are mere "allegations". But when any woman of any unknown identity and legal background accuses a man of something, he is tagged "demon" r@pist etc. from that moment. When will media realize they are also culprits in so many such suicides. Ir is it that they have realized, but are not bothered because most reporters are women itself?
Why was this law introduced ? Who is behind introducing these kinds of laws should be arrested immediately.. so many are dead already.. who is responsible for those who already took their lives but never got justice.. Prime Minister should address this issue immediately.. Thousands of Men are dead because of this
Why a well qualified woman be given alimony. If separation is happening let the wife earn on her own. Child expenses be equally divided amongst the parents.
I don't see the reasoning behind the women have to maintain same standard of life promised in a marriage even after divorce when the whole promise was made on basis of marriage which isn't effective anymore..Its high time that laws that make prenuptial agreements valid and false dowry cases criminal are introduced.
India has lost one of its greatest data scientists ai engineer and a gem. A boy of wisdom, gone too soon amidst evil souls. 💔We miss you, Marty Atul, brother. 💔 His assessment of the judicial process, its ground realities, and thought process-Are brilliant😢Justice is due💔
If average monthly income in India is 32k/month. So the max alimony that can be granted per month should be capped at 8k per month (for 2-3 years because why someone should provide you everything for life time while they are not even living with him).
Everyone cribs about how Indian Judiciary is burdened with the number of cases. That's because filing a fake case has absolutely no consequences. Make a law which says if a woman is found guilty of misusing any law, she won't be granted any alimony or child support and see how these fake cases get withdrawn. But it won't happen because the man's lawyer and woman's lawyer and the judges, the police and everyone involved bite a piece of the pie which is alimony given by the husband. We can't expect them to change laws because that's their bread and butter. Things will never change unless Supreme Court decides to do so and even then, most of the judiciary will oppose this.
Finally, a rational perspective. The issue isn't about whether alimony itself is right or wrong, but rather the deeper concerns surrounding corruption and the lack of accountability for those who file fraudulent cases. The real problem lies in how the legal system often fails to punish individuals who misuse it by presenting false claims, leading to significant injustices. Until there's a mechanism to address and penalize such actions, the system will continue to be exploited, undermining its integrity and fairness for all parties involved.
Expressing legal opinion on mens's suicide are dime a dozen. But no legal fraternity puts forwards these point to judge and the implications of wrong or bad or impractical judgements.
So frustrating no media is bringing that up as if they are scared to even discuss on that. Jab sey motizee aaye hain media sirf waah motizee waah karkey jeena seekhliya. Utterly useless and without spine.
02:45 Both of them really don't wish any good.. "is it common to come across cases where IT APPEARS that the dowry laws and section 498a SEEM TO HAVE BEEN misused".. even here, the statement itself tries to claim that even if it is there, it is just that "it appears" like it, and misuse just "seems to have been" done.. pathetic.. this anchor doesn't deserve to discuss this issue.
I don't see any laws comming that actually gives relief to men in such cases. Political parties are too much obsessed with their vote banks and WOman are a big VOTE BANK. No political party will show the audacity to bring in such laws that will annoy woman and hence their vote back will deplete. Woman are not just using the laws in family disputes but also if we see in corporates we see the same. The very recent case being the attitude of woman in the Indian Armed forces. But that is very much true. Men need to understand that there is practically no one to help them. A man needs to help himself. Man needs to realize that marriage is detrimental to overall well-being in men's lives. Men need to stay united and support each other. "Botoge to Katoge" still applies very much here as well. Men needs to stay away from Marriage /GF/ Live ins .. etc As per today's law... Woman is by default innocent till found guilty Man is by default guilty till found innocent.
498A gives a scope to ill-intended women - 1. Not taking matrimonial responsibility 2. Not keeping the older parents with them do the older generation getting highly neglected in so called law to prevent violence against women 3. Child mentality id exploited by the mother from very beginning 4. Social system has little role in the family 5. Once a man dragged to Police station and court, the marriage becomes broken down and irretrievable
In my neighborhood, a man's case was ongoing in family court. Wife had put similar agreement. Before judgement day, everyone was saying to him that you and your mother will go to jail. Under pressure, he committed sucide 2 days before judgement day. After his suicide, court released his mother.
We need more law to protect women from marital rapes happening in the country Indian law makers should bring stringent law to protect daughters and mothers of every son so all men should demand for it
Are u stpd. If you know he is rpst, why don't you just divorce him and leave the marriage first. Women say he hit me but i wont divorce him but i want his money which i did not earn. I am son of a great mother, and we don't need such law. Divorce is the solution to marital rp.
again to misuse the same which is happening in earlier law 😂😂 there is no such Maritial rape if a girl doesn't want sex with partner then why marrying..
In most Western countries either it’s a pre-nup or the property split is between assets gained after the date of marriage. Any property prior to marriage is not counted. If the spouse is not working also only assets accumulated during the time they were together is split if the marriage lasts over a year. This is what I have seen. Yes here also misuse happens and it’s with desi people mostly.
It’s the lawyers who suggest their women clients how they can create more pressure on men to extort money by putting more cases. So it’s the lawyers and judges who complicate divorces in India and create agony for both parties for many many years. It’s their business model to keep earning corrupt money from both sides. Common people get trapped in judiciary’s corrupt circle.
Just a Though: Need expert Lawer thoughts for my knowledge: What if a man like Atul resigned and stay free without income and inform court that he doesn't have any income source so there is no point of paying any maintenance. on the other hand, since his wife is working so she could pay Maintenace to him. I guess if this could be the case It would be better to be without Job rather suffering such situations. or what if someone bankrupt and unable to pay maintenance? after that I guess some month jail only, but you could come out from such situations. I know I may be not right but there must be some loophole. Every law has loophole just need to find some smart Lawer.
If you don't pay alimony, you will be in contempt of court and court will fine you, imprison you and may seize all current and whatever future assets to your name. Since you become a convict, no chance of getting a decent job in future. The law itself is the loophole but against (unlucky i guess) men and their family
@thesoup_is_dry1358 oh Okay. And what if he chose to go to Jail? What would be the max Jail tenure in this case? Can he go to High Court or Suprime court for further hearing?
@@JK-kz5el my innocent friend. As a person going through same nonsens. You can choose to go to jail but what about your parents, brother, sister - how many years they roam around courts, everyone are supposed to attend court every month. Your brother sister and father may loose their jobs because if u in court the case is posted in public and companies won’t give jobs to those whose name is in FIR. And your sisters husband will threaten to push her out of home because of the cases your wife files on them. And by any chance your brother/sister are preparing for govt jobs they can stop preparation caz with name in FIR they will not get job or if they are in US/UK their passports will be blocked. And your wife can claim 50% of your assets, and your fathers assets caz you hv share in ur fathers money, and she has share in ur money. Basically your life is ovr.
@@JK-kz5el Wife files false cases on your family and ask for money, then you go collect evidences against the allegations, but the court will not even note those evidences, they simply say "GO FOR SETTLEMENT".. then your wife says pay me 3 crores while you have only a 80k/month job while u already paying 40k to wife, yes its is financial sucsid. she wants all your assets, future pension and your fathers assets, and wants u to take big loan and give it to her for her to take back those cases otherwise she can send ur family to jail and ruin your sisters marriage by filing cases on her husb and ruin your brothers life by getting him arrested so that he looses his job. she basically legally can do anyyyything to u without any repercussions. You also will think "SHE CAN DO ALL THAT ONLY IF I AM ALIVE WHAT IF I AM NOT" this what Atul experienced. been there. Every time i see myself in the mirror i want to spit on myself for supporting women when some crime happens against them, because i supported them then they made these laws to punish 1000's of innocent men like me.
Why alimony for faulty spouse. Here, debate is going on how to protect the innocents (both men and women), not men against women or women against men. Both men and women should fall under the same umbrella of law in all the sections. Spouse: either men or women. In cases of contested divorce, when a fault is proven in court: 1. The spouse found to be at fault (the recipient) should forfeit the right to claim both interim maintenance and permanent alimony. 2. The spouse found to be at fault (the petrator) should face substantial penalties concerning both interim maintenance and permanent alimony. Furthermore, it is essential to ensure that children born out of wedlock maintain access to their rights, regardless of any ongoing disputes. Innocent spouse and Children out of wedlock will always be ending with suffering and mentally disturbed because of a faulty spouse in marriage and no law to protect the innocent spouse and never considers child mental health.
Many of the wedding lately happen for wrong reasons / transactional. Neither men & women seems to be religiously qualified & trained even remotely to a married life or Grihastashrama. With social & extended family fabric in tatters in city life happy married life seems very challenging & more such stressful families seems happening. Husband & Wife means they r in a highest level of friendship. If any one or both has to go to court against other then they have become worst enemies & no more a husband & wife. Late marriages these days are another reason that they don’t have energy time or motivation to adopt & develop some basic bonding to each other.
Cases are different...judges shud use basic logic and see it on case to case basis...hiw can a husband who is well settled and earning good, can ask for dowry from a wife who is herself from a lower middle class family....??? How can the judge just believe so easily that the parents of the girl although from a lower middle class have soent 10 lacs on marriage..???? How can the court just believe whatever the wife writes in her complaint...??????? STRANGE.......😮😮 Instead of just following the wrong routine of just favouring the women...i feel court shud atleast use some basic sense and see it on case to case basis .
In this case, the judge’s corruption is clear, but the issue is far more complex, especially when considering the situation in rural India. In many cases, dowry demands can be so extreme that the girl’s parents are forced to sell their homes and all their possessions just to meet the financial expectations of the groom's family, especially when the in-laws are wealthy. This often leads to severe financial and emotional hardship for the girl's family, and in some instances, it becomes a cycle of exploitation. The dowry system, despite being illegal, continues to persist in many parts of India, largely due to deep-rooted social norms and economic pressures. While the corruption within the legal system certainly needs to be addressed, it's important to acknowledge the systemic issues at play that lead to such tragic situations for families in rural areas.
Ye sab tto chalta rahega … 15 din ke baad sab band … pehle ye batao , in a muslim family, if a women having 5-6 children, filed all these cases 498A IPC , DV and much more… tto kya hoga? I wish ke na hho… lekin alimony and maintenance wagera number of children ke hisab se hote hai… bhai tto inke 4 puste bik jayenge … that lady is going to demand 5-6crores , because 1 saal rehke wife agar 2cr demand kar sakti hai then … beware guys… alimony deke kaam khatam karo, nahi bacha rahega nahi 20saal tak maintenance dete phiroge.
If a ex wife wants maintenence charges....govt must bring a law that allows the ex husband to have sex as and when he wants with his ex wife while he pays monthly maintenance
Pls go to Andhra Pradesh or Kerala.. btech..b eng studied women..are expected to pay huge dowry..what about that..what if women start doing suicide for these matters..Sorry for Atul anyways..
There is a difference between social pressure and law pressure. You are talking about social pressure which can be avoided by your own will, you can reject the alliance or deal with it legally. But these choices won't be available in law pressure. Men facing law pressure and cruel women using it to comit legal crimes without hesitation or mercy . We just want equal rights and law. Lots of men life ruined and a genuine man ended his life yet you are still crying about your own problem, I have no words.
Sorry to hear to this. But if your son / your family is threatened with false domestic violence, don't be falsely implicated. Instead do the actual thing for which you are falsely blamed
First of all we need to simply make divorce a transactional event in LAW. They tried a marriage but it is not working and they want to separate. So allow them to have a prenup agreement before marriage where they can decide what will happen if they decide to separate. This will help because everyone's true reasons for marriage come out when you sit down for a prenup and most likely the bad actors will not commit to a marriage if their sole purpose is getting hold of all of husbands wealth.
Great interview
We need
1. Gender neutral laws
2. Pre-nuptial agreements must be legalized
3. Lastly but most importantly justice for Atul!
Mens commission also
We needs prenups in India.
As dowry is illegal, so should be marriage without prenups.
A wife is not a liability of the husband.... what if she never married, then she should have taken care of herself throughout her life.
She should continue to do that even if she married.
There are circumstances, where a child's welfare should be considered equally.
circumstances where the life of women were hampered due to the husband, either relocation, estragement, abuse etc.
But why a normal women, educated, capable of working is treated as a liability for the husband.
A husband is not responsible to these matters.
Prenups make sure she can't sue you for maintenance or any of your property.
If there are genuine cases, then have gender neutral laws take care of it.
But it's India.... people don't have power here.
Extortion hai extortion hai. New movie bhi ai hai Despatch
And legalize prostitution in India. For men it is cheaper, less hassles, and protection against legal extortion.
We need 1) New Legislations for Men's Rights
2) Justice for Atul.
Dont get in our away or the consequences will be severe
yes if so we men are not voting for any women representative for MLA or MP, or any politician who is supporting for women right, if he supporting women rights let him support for men also
VERY TRUE EVERY MEN SHOULD BE IN WARRIOR MODE
WE ARE WARRIORS NOT COWARDS
BJ party and mudi responsible for this. Because they failed to fix the mess created by congr.ess in 10 years.
Judiciary systems is not fixed by BJ party
A women will always fight for the money, which she did not earn. Be it dowry or alimony. (Dowry is given by father to groom, women did not earn it)
If the court & judges doesn't have enough time to give proper justice then why are they even sitting there in the position in the name of justices? Are we stupid to even go to the court if they don't even have time for giving justice? Isn't that their one job to perform? WTF is wrong in this country?
Govt can't fix this issue and I'm determined not to marry, let the society sink
Govt won't fix this issue.
Even Pakistan treats it's taxpayers better...
Humara pm b toh chai wala h ab desh ki janta ko chai wala samajta h hum chote log hogye h ab uske liye @@sagaraiwale
A women will always fight for the money, which she did not earn. Be it dowry or alimony. (Dowry is given by father to groom, women did not earn it)
Going to be 32 soon very rich family background and I have no urge to marry because I don't want my family's hard earned money to be stolen by a woman just because we got married for a day or even hours. This is pure daylight robbery. It's better to have girlfriends without strings attached Salman khan style 😅
Not a single prominent politician made a statement, these same politicians shouted for RK Medical College case, …
They worried abt women and father is princess votes
I swear!! Was thinking the same thing all this time
Exactly, they are criminally silent
exactly we gave too much power to females, time to take it back
No dowry, no alimony
Likhwakar bhi lena chahiye
Mandir me shadi zero kharcha❤
And pre-nup
No maintenance as well
After he died all the lawyers have woken up? When he was alive and struggling no lawyer helped him
😮😢😢
That’s the power of our Indian Judiciary
Say no for marriage.
Say yes for Thailand 😂😂😂😂😂
Canadian courts almost NEVER award alimony anymore.
Really? That's good news
Very strict Law should be made on anyone filing false and erroneous cases (For Lawyers , Police too) .
True, lawyers also need to be punished for suggesting these to women.
@@vukkumsp Making strict laws makes sense, but when are these cases going to get solved? The Indian judiciary sucks. There are so many cases pending in courts. Judges take bribes. India has become a pathetic state to live in.
its already there. Section 211. its never been used. judges never uses this even for serial false accusing women gang. judges are pressurised by fem'sts.
Yes
How will you found guilty because all proof need to shown by men
See the mental stability of Atul. He has taken his destiny patientfully in a clear planned way. He has not attempted out of disturbance, which we normally see. One need lot of courage, clarity and determination to go through all these steps. If we take this case casually, justice in future looks to be bleaque.
Who is teaching the wives/women to file cases against the kids/old family members?
The lawyer fraternity is teaching them as all of the women are not lawyers or aware of the law, however they become aggressive because they are made aware that they can do anything with impunity
100% agreed 👍
they suggest. its upto u to decide. u are responsible not the lawyers.
@@anempath24 why do a salesman needs to nag to sell a product? If the law(the product) says that you can loot an ATM without any implications then the lawyers (salesman) would make you aware that there is no law to penalize you. In today's world, money is more important than morals. The lawyers earn their income (salesman commission) from that. The judges earn "extra" income. Finally, the women get a lottery. 😀
@@anempath24 There should always be punishment for crime. filing false cases is a crime for which there is no punishment for women.
@@anempath24
Professional advice
judges need to be better trained ....what a joke ....they are corrupted.... this is not an issue of training 😡😡
The judges are psychopaths
We should change the law altogether
Never buy property in joint name with wife unless she contributes money to buy the property.
if its on husband's name, after husband's death she will obtain
@@anita2053-r1f they are divorced
@anita2053-r1f
Yes. Wife is Class 1 heir.
@@anita2053-r1f write a bond bro hirachical value of yours then mother then father then sister how she can claim it's nearly impossible as u can only decide who goes property😂😂😂
Always buy on your mother's name
Ban Dowry, Ban Alimony !
Moral of the story: Don't marry, be a bachelor for life
Travel different countries brother. Earn money and travel. Marrying makes you stuck in one place with responsibility
Iam not getting married.
I dont feel freedom 75 years after british left the country.
Who is court to interfere in marriage. Its a personal thing.
Judges aur Kings in india.
While marriage was happening, court was not in the seen, then how court will come in to picture between husband and wife When dispute happens...? Why lawyers needed in matrimonial cases?Matrimonial cases should be get closed within a year, how complex it may be the case through a seperate organisation other than a court which is governed by government...... Its better for victims of marrige scandle.....
I fully agree with your statement.
Very true
The lawyers are the culprit .they have facilitied to turn the law to extortion.. Compensation should be complete no .judges will decide whether to be given or not. This law is forcing people not to go for marriage. Lawmaker has created imblalance in society trying to show respect for woman.if asking compensation is valid dowry should also be
Indian justice system runs emotional leans towards women blindly than for men
Boycott marriage
🤣🤣🤣japanese is now trying to change this culture encouraging mrg for population increase
@@anita2053-r1f nothing will happen if human beings extinct from world....
Some people think the purpose of life is procreation.. Thats bullshit... Just live for yourself
1 Family courts are not giving judgements fast. Decide the case in two years so that both husband and wife settle in life afresh.
2 What is the use of the judgement if it's given after 10 years. Husband naturally thinks of suicide. What is left in his life.
3 Wife in most of the cases deserts husband for her own convenience like her affair with some other person. These are facts.
4 Interim mentainance is awarded wrongly in many cases.
5 Court is not at all serious about husband's duty responsibility of his duty responsibility towards aged sick parents. Parents life is miserable.
Totally nothing useful is expected in family courts. Waste of time and money .
As per recent changes in law, there are no permanent alimony in state of florida, United States.
Justice for atul we don't want more such laws miss used to damage our families
Justice is Due 😢
Maintenance itself is an extortion. After divorce women should live the same standard of life before marriage not the standard of life after marriage with his money
498 a if misused girls should be punished then only cases will be reduced
Atul Subhash ko justice milna chahiye justice for men
If husband have responsibility to maintain his wife in Indian law, then why wife has not given responsibility to serve her father in law house and family.
because wife married to husband not inlaws
@@anita2053-r1fso once married , husband is slave to wife and spend money for her
This is not right Anita feminist
@@anita2053-r1f thats not mean a new atm card, after your father
@@anita2053-r1f then let her serve the husband.
@@anita2053-r1f if men has to give maintenance then what responsibility wife has after divorce ?? is it one sided responsibility ?
why the hell should men be paying whatever he earns? why cant there be a fixed a pay for maintenance and childcare?
When wife is working there is no need to give for maintenance. Childcare ofc it's a responsibility of both the parents.
Well if a girl leaves her job to take care of household and she does it for years then it is a given that she will be in a bad position if she were to return to job market. In this situation, if the husband initiates a divorce, who might've advanced his career a lot over the years because of the help of wife, and he leaves the wife, you can argue that the wife was defrauded as if she herself had focused over her career, she would have had a good standard of living independently and future career prospects after the divorce. That is the logic behind it.
@@harnisha91Your basic argument is flawed!!
If a 24-25 Yr old "educated" girl, who remains "papa ki pari", doesn't work out of "choice", gets married, leaves husband within 6months, files all false cases, gets " interim maintenance" as long as cases run, gets into a live-in relationship and demands " alimony" for divorce ( interim maintenance, permanent maintenance, alimony - these are 3 separate things mixed up by common people) will get alimony as per your argument Bcoz she is not working? Wow!! Great logic....
And these type of cases are quite common...
Leave aside this, how about this -
Do you know, a "divorced ex-wife" can also claim "maintenance" u/s CrPc 125? And there are cases running in courts where " divorced ex-wife" after 4-5 yrs of divorce and " settlement", turns up in court and files maintenance case on " ex" husband?
So, what Atul said and did was " cutting of the supply line".... Bcoz, as he rightly mentioned the Judiciary, System and of course the " empowered yet abla nari of India" will feed of him like vultures as long as he will live.... I'm not an ATM - This is what it boils down to.... Leave aside matrimonial cases, Rape cases are getting " settled" - obviously NCRB statistics gives testimony that 76% of rape cases are false.... And now with BNS 69 introduced, it will be really great - you don't get pay hike - file rape case, you don't get promotion--file rape case and walk away laughing to the bank with entire "retirement fund" into the kitty paid by the VP of the Company....
Who wants to work? Lead a lavish life style, keep a boyfriend to satisfy the physical needs and of course be the flag bearer of " Feminism"...
@@arunabh69 who asked her not to focus on career she wanted easy life she took it, moreover what is wrong in a fixed pay for basic needs and child care? How can they demand more just because husband is capable of paying
@@rohi1255 one person can easily live on 8k/month, why should he be responsible for your "GOOD STANDARD OF LIVING", he can be responsible for your basic needs for food, accommodation for 3-4 years, but LUXURIES ? lets be fair in this. If one person can get money for doing nothing everyone will just choose that. Then as a husband i will take care of household chores you go work on the streets, i ll eat and sleep at home, if we divorce ill ask you to pay me half of your assets, hard work, your future pension, your parents assets, and will file cases on your mother, father, brother, sister and force you to pay even more. 50-50 what a simple life right.
Men should stop supporting candle light marches until Atul gets justice!
No dowry and no alimony
Alimony is not a problem. Main problem is domestic violence there no is no domestic violence laws for man .
No marriage no problem 🙏🙏👍👍
@@LolaX-f3dalimony is a problem. A well qualified woman must fend for herself.
@@LolaX-f3d it is a problem. when a cancer patient had to collect funds from public to give maintainance.
its a reverse dowry.
@@anempath24 not it's not. If wife demand money from cancer patients then we will file a case again wife under domestic violence for mental Harrasment . We will file a case against police officer who did bias investigation and do not mentioned that he is cancer patients . We file case against wife for making false case. We need laws to make judges accountable.
Our maintenance laws are very good . Wife do not have right on husband property. Working wife do not get money. In Atuls case his wife knows that he will not get maintenance that's why she file so many cases to make court proceedings lengthy so that she can claim interim maintenance.
Only 25% of salary should go for interim maintenance according to law , but judge misuses it. So we need laws to make judges accountable.
What changes you will do in our maintenance law?
498a is domestic violence law. Which is highly misused. We need laws to prosecute who file false 498A case.
5.1 crore cases are pending in Indian courts. Courts, stop meddling with marriage. Its a private matter. Do things you are supposed to do.
Not gonna marry even as a Government employee
Paternity tests should be made mandatory
If the court & judges doesn't have enough time to give proper justice then why are they even sitting there in the position in the name of justices? Are we stupid to even go to the court if they don't even have time for giving justice? Isn't that their one job to perform? WTF is wrong in this country?
Everything
Beautifully conducted interview
Just cancel all law related to alimony system . In olden days the men earned the money and the women has no choice so they depend on us. But today scenario is changed . Today lot of women occupied higher position , obtained any jobs (very easily) and even earned self sufficient money to survive on this society. So i wonder why we have to keep that outdating law in moderndays??
Atuul's case is lost. Lost for ever, thanks to our Judiciary, Police, Politicians, Ministers, and the Media
Shame on Indian Judiciary, Laws must be amended
Ma'am! I also am a victim of false 498a & unjust maintenance😂😂😂! The duration of my marriage with my wife is just 17 days....😂😂😂! She left me for ever filing a bunch of false matrimonial & dv cases! Possibly she is in live in relationship but myself can't go for either a live-in-partner or a legal wife due to these life-threatening dv/divorce cases 😂😂😂
Iam also facing the same issue, bro is it possible to contact u to get some suggestions
Take law into your hands. Better to break law, rather than being called criminals for no apparent reason
My duration was 10 days.
I faced the same.
After long battle i won.
She married me just to make her boyfriend jealous.
She never consummated marriage and wanted a huge amount of money to settle.
When we refused we faced all cases.
This is reality of india.
@@hsk7717 how many years case was continued
@hsk7717 Patience is bitter but it's fruit is sweet brother! And too much cunning overreaches itself! You are possibly happy and free from burden now but go to your miserable ex wife and see that she is swimming over the drain of agony, societal disgrace, despair and suicidal ideation due to the lose of golden goose! This is called 'harvest of sin!'
Bs. If family is broken. Children must be taken over by monasteries or govt. And adults must be left alone without access to their children. All these bs laws are arbitrary
Yes madam. Thank you for your support. Men and women are the two eyes of this world. So needed equality.
People are loosing trust to get married, I asked many people they say they don't want to marry if our laws are not fixed including myself. Our some laws are completely biased towards women. The whole institutional marriage system will disturbed if law is not fixed and ultimately it's a loss of government too, India fertility rate will further decrease which will affect the economy and tax burden to next generation also.
Divorce laws are clearly misused. The law needs to change.
Marry a gharelu moderately educated woman and be safe.
😂😂😂 - " Gharelu moderately educated women"...
In the words of Game of Thrones - "You don't know a thing, Jon Snow"
They turn out to be different after marriage and a kid!! Don't fall for that trap. My brother is already suffering.
How stupid you are 😂😂😂
02:06 even when a man commits suicide, the allegations he made are mere "allegations". But when any woman of any unknown identity and legal background accuses a man of something, he is tagged "demon" r@pist etc. from that moment. When will media realize they are also culprits in so many such suicides. Ir is it that they have realized, but are not bothered because most reporters are women itself?
Why was this law introduced ? Who is behind introducing these kinds of laws should be arrested immediately.. so many are dead already.. who is responsible for those who already took their lives but never got justice.. Prime Minister should address this issue immediately.. Thousands of Men are dead because of this
Institution of marriage is dying
Here human are dying due to marriage,n still u are saying "Institution of marriage is dying".
Why a well qualified woman be given alimony. If separation is happening let the wife earn on her own. Child expenses be equally divided amongst the parents.
People talk only after someone is died. Why don’t they talk when they are alive. Please, at least now, open up and discuss the issues males are facing
I don't see the reasoning behind the women have to maintain same standard of life promised in a marriage even after divorce when the whole promise was made on basis of marriage which isn't effective anymore..Its high time that laws that make prenuptial agreements valid and false dowry cases criminal are introduced.
No Support to Anyone
Be Independent everyone
India has lost one of its greatest data scientists ai engineer and a gem. A boy of wisdom, gone too soon amidst evil souls. 💔We miss you, Marty Atul, brother. 💔
His assessment of the judicial process, its ground realities, and thought process-Are brilliant😢Justice is due💔
But it is a way of extortion without any doubt.
Maintenance must be reasonable. But in most of the cases, its unreasonable....
If average monthly income in India is 32k/month. So the max alimony that can be granted per month should be capped at 8k per month (for 2-3 years because why someone should provide you everything for life time while they are not even living with him).
Why maintenance in the first place?
Everyone cribs about how Indian Judiciary is burdened with the number of cases. That's because filing a fake case has absolutely no consequences. Make a law which says if a woman is found guilty of misusing any law, she won't be granted any alimony or child support and see how these fake cases get withdrawn. But it won't happen because the man's lawyer and woman's lawyer and the judges, the police and everyone involved bite a piece of the pie which is alimony given by the husband.
We can't expect them to change laws because that's their bread and butter. Things will never change unless Supreme Court decides to do so and even then, most of the judiciary will oppose this.
Finally, a rational perspective. The issue isn't about whether alimony itself is right or wrong, but rather the deeper concerns surrounding corruption and the lack of accountability for those who file fraudulent cases. The real problem lies in how the legal system often fails to punish individuals who misuse it by presenting false claims, leading to significant injustices. Until there's a mechanism to address and penalize such actions, the system will continue to be exploited, undermining its integrity and fairness for all parties involved.
Expressing legal opinion on mens's suicide are dime a dozen. But no legal fraternity puts forwards these point to judge and the implications of wrong or bad or impractical judgements.
Punishment for homicide is 7 years, which is lesser price than paying alimony
Maintenance itself is an extortion.
Alimony law should be banned in india , now days womens are independent ,😡
This is bribery case please focus that ashok said about the judge.please talk about judge.
So frustrating no media is bringing that up as if they are scared to even discuss on that. Jab sey motizee aaye hain media sirf waah motizee waah karkey jeena seekhliya. Utterly useless and without spine.
02:45 Both of them really don't wish any good.. "is it common to come across cases where IT APPEARS that the dowry laws and section 498a SEEM TO HAVE BEEN misused".. even here, the statement itself tries to claim that even if it is there, it is just that "it appears" like it, and misuse just "seems to have been" done.. pathetic.. this anchor doesn't deserve to discuss this issue.
Law support to woman, what about corruption in judiciary among judge's.
I don't see any laws comming that actually gives relief to men in such cases. Political parties are too much obsessed with their vote banks and WOman are a big VOTE BANK. No political party will show the audacity to bring in such laws that will annoy woman and hence their vote back will deplete. Woman are not just using the laws in family disputes but also if we see in corporates we see the same.
The very recent case being the attitude of woman in the Indian Armed forces. But that is very much true.
Men need to understand that there is practically no one to help them. A man needs to help himself. Man needs to realize that marriage is detrimental to overall well-being in men's lives. Men need to stay united and support each other. "Botoge to Katoge" still applies very much here as well. Men needs to stay away from Marriage /GF/ Live ins .. etc
As per today's law...
Woman is by default innocent till found guilty
Man is by default guilty till found innocent.
Fathers should also make sure its their children. Do paternity tests. Dont trust your partner blindly
498A gives a scope to ill-intended women -
1. Not taking matrimonial responsibility
2. Not keeping the older parents with them do the older generation getting highly neglected in so called law to prevent violence against women
3. Child mentality id exploited by the mother from very beginning
4. Social system has little role in the family
5. Once a man dragged to Police station and court, the marriage becomes broken down and irretrievable
Implement clear non biased gender neutral with uniform civil code. Right now many people might want to even convert to get out this situation.
In my neighborhood, a man's case was ongoing in family court. Wife had put similar agreement. Before judgement day, everyone was saying to him that you and your mother will go to jail. Under pressure, he committed sucide 2 days before judgement day. After his suicide, court released his mother.
Can't be? They can be. They are. Advocate can say "should not be". Lousy legal system and lousy people of law.
Stop this legal genocide
This is my india ❤❤ 😢😢
We need more law to protect women from marital rapes happening in the country Indian law makers should bring stringent law to protect daughters and mothers of every son so all men should demand for it
Let them fix the current laws.
Marital Rap prove kaise karoge , ? Sex ko bhi Rap bolegi women
@@AB-xw5kq women statement should is enough
Are u stpd. If you know he is rpst, why don't you just divorce him and leave the marriage first. Women say he hit me but i wont divorce him but i want his money which i did not earn. I am son of a great mother, and we don't need such law. Divorce is the solution to marital rp.
again to misuse the same which is happening in earlier law 😂😂 there is no such Maritial rape if a girl doesn't want sex with partner then why marrying..
There is one poliician Tejaswi BJP MP of karnataka raised voice in Parliament hats off..
Great info!
In most Western countries either it’s a pre-nup or the property split is between assets gained after the date of marriage. Any property prior to marriage is not counted. If the spouse is not working also only assets accumulated during the time they were together is split if the marriage lasts over a year. This is what I have seen. Yes here also misuse happens and it’s with desi people mostly.
It’s the lawyers who suggest their women clients how they can create more pressure on men to extort money by putting more cases. So it’s the lawyers and judges who complicate divorces in India and create agony for both parties for many many years. It’s their business model to keep earning corrupt money from both sides. Common people get trapped in judiciary’s corrupt circle.
Is it really a crime to make laws gender neutral?
Just a Though: Need expert Lawer thoughts for my knowledge:
What if a man like Atul resigned and stay free without income and inform court that he doesn't have any income source so there is no point of paying any maintenance. on the other hand, since his wife is working so she could pay Maintenace to him. I guess if this could be the case
It would be better to be without Job rather suffering such situations. or what if someone bankrupt and unable to pay maintenance? after that I guess some month jail only, but you could come out from such situations. I know I may be not right but there must be some loophole. Every law has loophole just need to find some smart Lawer.
If you don't pay alimony, you will be in contempt of court and court will fine you, imprison you and may seize all current and whatever future assets to your name. Since you become a convict, no chance of getting a decent job in future. The law itself is the loophole but against (unlucky i guess) men and their family
No My innocent friend. Go to youtube and see the judges telling the husband you go beg or do robbery but pay money to wife or go to jail :)
@thesoup_is_dry1358 oh Okay. And what if he chose to go to Jail? What would be the max Jail tenure in this case? Can he go to High Court or Suprime court for further hearing?
@@JK-kz5el my innocent friend. As a person going through same nonsens. You can choose to go to jail but what about your parents, brother, sister - how many years they roam around courts, everyone are supposed to attend court every month. Your brother sister and father may loose their jobs because if u in court the case is posted in public and companies won’t give jobs to those whose name is in FIR. And your sisters husband will threaten to push her out of home because of the cases your wife files on them. And by any chance your brother/sister are preparing for govt jobs they can stop preparation caz with name in FIR they will not get job or if they are in US/UK their passports will be blocked. And your wife can claim 50% of your assets, and your fathers assets caz you hv share in ur fathers money, and she has share in ur money. Basically your life is ovr.
@@JK-kz5el Wife files false cases on your family and ask for money, then you go collect evidences against the allegations, but the court will not even note those evidences, they simply say "GO FOR SETTLEMENT".. then your wife says pay me 3 crores while you have only a 80k/month job while u already paying 40k to wife, yes its is financial sucsid. she wants all your assets, future pension and your fathers assets, and wants u to take big loan and give it to her for her to take back those cases otherwise she can send ur family to jail and ruin your sisters marriage by filing cases on her husb and ruin your brothers life by getting him arrested so that he looses his job. she basically legally can do anyyyything to u without any repercussions. You also will think "SHE CAN DO ALL THAT ONLY IF I AM ALIVE WHAT IF I AM NOT" this what Atul experienced. been there.
Every time i see myself in the mirror i want to spit on myself for supporting women when some crime happens against them, because i supported them then they made these laws to punish 1000's of innocent men like me.
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Agar ladka sanyasy ho jata hai tab law kya kahta hai?
Justice for Atul Subhash
Justice for atul
Why alimony for faulty spouse.
Here, debate is going on how to protect the innocents (both men and women), not men against women or women against men.
Both men and women should fall under the same umbrella of law in all the sections.
Spouse: either men or women.
In cases of contested divorce, when a fault is proven in court:
1. The spouse found to be at fault (the recipient) should forfeit the right to claim both interim maintenance and permanent alimony.
2. The spouse found to be at fault (the petrator) should face substantial penalties concerning both interim maintenance and permanent alimony.
Furthermore, it is essential to ensure that children born out of wedlock maintain access to their rights, regardless of any ongoing disputes.
Innocent spouse and Children out of wedlock will always be ending with suffering and mentally disturbed because of a faulty spouse in marriage and no law to protect the innocent spouse and never considers child mental health.
pre-nups must be legalised !!!!!!!!
Many of the wedding lately happen for wrong reasons / transactional. Neither men & women seems to be religiously qualified & trained even remotely to a married life or Grihastashrama. With social & extended family fabric in tatters in city life happy married life seems very challenging & more such stressful families seems happening. Husband & Wife means they r in a highest level of friendship. If any one or both has to go to court against other then they have become worst enemies & no more a husband & wife. Late marriages these days are another reason that they don’t have energy time or motivation to adopt & develop some basic bonding to each other.
Cases are different...judges shud use basic logic and see it on case to case basis...hiw can a husband who is well settled and earning good, can ask for dowry from a wife who is herself from a lower middle class family....??? How can the judge just believe so easily that the parents of the girl although from a lower middle class have soent 10 lacs on marriage..???? How can the court just believe whatever the wife writes in her complaint...???????
STRANGE.......😮😮
Instead of just following the wrong routine of just favouring the women...i feel court shud atleast use some basic sense and see it on case to case basis .
In this case, the judge’s corruption is clear, but the issue is far more complex, especially when considering the situation in rural India. In many cases, dowry demands can be so extreme that the girl’s parents are forced to sell their homes and all their possessions just to meet the financial expectations of the groom's family, especially when the in-laws are wealthy. This often leads to severe financial and emotional hardship for the girl's family, and in some instances, it becomes a cycle of exploitation. The dowry system, despite being illegal, continues to persist in many parts of India, largely due to deep-rooted social norms and economic pressures. While the corruption within the legal system certainly needs to be addressed, it's important to acknowledge the systemic issues at play that lead to such tragic situations for families in rural areas.
There's a continuous bgm playing which is unnecessary.
JUSTICE FOR ATUL ⚖️ 😢
Ye sab tto chalta rahega … 15 din ke baad sab band … pehle ye batao , in a muslim family, if a women having 5-6 children, filed all these cases 498A IPC , DV and much more… tto kya hoga? I wish ke na hho… lekin alimony and maintenance wagera number of children ke hisab se hote hai… bhai tto inke 4 puste bik jayenge … that lady is going to demand 5-6crores , because 1 saal rehke wife agar 2cr demand kar sakti hai then … beware guys… alimony deke kaam khatam karo, nahi bacha rahega nahi 20saal tak maintenance dete phiroge.
Men and women discrimination is not in the society. But it is mainly in the justice.
It is everywhere. Women are given preferential treatment everywhere
Court cant say things like this and go on. Concrete action is required.
No Alimony for working woman
गुजारा भत्ता ...तो 5-7000 का होता है ....यहां तो लूट होती है आजकल के कानून के अनुसार
SC & ST cases are also in widespread misuse
How?
Women should not be given maintenance now at all ... because of some women everyone suffers ...
Why maintenance..... Prenup is important...make it legal...m
If a ex wife wants maintenence charges....govt must bring a law that allows the ex husband to have sex as and when he wants with his ex wife while he pays monthly maintenance
#abolishAlimony
There is no benefits of law give for sincere men
Pls go to Andhra Pradesh or Kerala.. btech..b eng studied women..are expected to pay huge dowry..what about that..what if women start doing suicide for these matters..Sorry for Atul anyways..
There is a difference between social pressure and law pressure. You are talking about social pressure which can be avoided by your own will, you can reject the alliance or deal with it legally. But these choices won't be available in law pressure. Men facing law pressure and cruel women using it to comit legal crimes without hesitation or mercy . We just want equal rights and law. Lots of men life ruined and a genuine man ended his life yet you are still crying about your own problem, I have no words.
No marriage
End of problem.
In my son case she is demanding 1 cr as alimony
Sorry to hear to this. But if your son / your family is threatened with false domestic violence, don't be falsely implicated. Instead do the actual thing for which you are falsely blamed
First of all we need to simply make divorce a transactional event in LAW.
They tried a marriage but it is not working and they want to separate. So allow them to have a prenup agreement before marriage where they can decide what will happen if they decide to separate. This will help because everyone's true reasons for marriage come out when you sit down for a prenup and most likely the bad actors will not commit to a marriage if their sole purpose is getting hold of all of husbands wealth.
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