Amazon product page: extrafudge.com/ref/B0089SSOR6 Cleaning capsules: extrafudge.com/ref/B003S4918M New pump: extrafudge.com/ref/B00UCH2NQ0 Breville Canister: extrafudge.com/ref/B0746RTRBV Video on how to replace the pump: ua-cam.com/video/an_pZ27tNqk/v-deo.html Few more thoughts (I'll add as I think about them): 1) Thermocoil vs. Boilers. There's obviously advantages to boilers but the best thing about a thermocoil is that it's pretty much instant. 2) It's serviceable. That's a major plus, especially the pump which is easily swapable and cheap. 3) This machine was updated to be able to change the brew temperature. (Same model, same everything, they just added this added functionality)
Gold 🏅, this video is head and shoulders above ALL Breville Infuser videos. This dude is smart and kudos for such an incredibly informative video. Gold 🏅 all the way
Thanks so much, machine still working like a champ. I'm actually quite surprised nothing broke since I made that video. Overall I think it's still probably the best value in the industry and I make 1 or 2 lattes a day. I might make another video soon on how to make latte art for beginners.
Thank you for the comprehensive review. Eventually the group head gasket on any machine gets hard, doesn't seal well and needs to be replaced. How do you replace it on this machine?
Thank you so much for your thorough review. The world of espresso machines is very confusing and I so appreciate your willingness to share your insights.
I'm happy to say that your criticisms of this machine were really minor ones. I upgraded from the Cafe Roma and was afraid you were gonna say this machine sucks or something along those lines. So far I'm glad I upgraded. For the price point I think it's great. I looked into some other machines but can't afford the 2000 dollar ones. I chuckled a little at your foam work because that was exactly what I got the first time as well. Good review.
@@ureviewsI watched this today and way jumped the gun, bc I'd mixed a descaling solution for the water tank -- and then read that a blinking cleaning light meant the machine wasn't ready to descale. But your video was so cool and I have the hardest time reading the water levels in the tank, and getting that latch handle to cooperate! So I loved your preliminary critique. Maybe you aren't there because this video is 5 years old. But -- thank you if this finds you. ps after cleaning and descaling there is definitely less clinking and shuddering going on. And I used the steam attachment for the first time. I'd forgotten to immerse it, and so the hissing and splattering had put me off
Whoa I have the same machine, grinder, and even espresso cup. I feel less of a rookie now. Thank you for posting this, there was a lot I was doing wrong.
About a month ago it started making a buzzing noise. I bought the part (solenoid assembly) but haven't replaced it yet. Still working but the buzzing comes and go. I'll swap it when I have time to video it. The part was 75 bucks or so.
I rarely comment but wow thanks a lot for this video. Amazing insight and info about the machine. I just bought this yesterday and this video answer all the technical questionso has
Very helpful video. Thank you. Did you remove the plastic inside the porta filter? I’ve read reviews where some people removed it because of the plastic. If you did remove it, how did you do it? Thank you
I asked brevile why they have it, they said it's so the coffee doesn't lose it's heat, so if you pre warm the portal filter it's not needed , that being said to remove it, you unscrew the bottom spout and then it's easy to just pop it out.
coffee is coffee just ignore those people who has something bad to say. you are doing right I just bought it and you are right about the plastic all metal but the top heater is plastic. its like a battle tank but your canon is made of plastic.
Hi! I have this machine (bought it in 2015) and the steam and hot water functions stopped working about a week ago, and now the espresso works pretty weakly. Probably the pump? Thank you for the great video!
I have a question about how to know its time to replace the pump. My pump is sounding off like it is operating however the steam pressure is extremely low and will only work for part of the time. Also, the water spigot has stopped working. The machine has been cleaned and descaled. I'm wondering if its the pump or vapor locked. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Great review and spot on.
@@ureviews the machine is 5+ years old. I've read some things that it sounds like it could be vapor locked. Making shots is no problem, its just affecting the steam wand and hot water.
Hi , my machine the water keeps flowing when doing a shot , 75% of the time , I have to stop the shot manually, then occasionally it stops itself. I have tried descaling with vinegar, helped for about the next 10 shots. Would the flow meter be scaled up ? is it repairable ?
Rotary pump you'd have to turn to the professional or semi professional libe of espresso machines.... Mine has been working pretty solid with me just replacing the pump ones.
My breville BES840XL espresso machine has a silicone ring on the screw in between where the frother is attached to came off. How can I replace it because there is water dripping out and it's releasing steam alos. please how can I resolve this issue without damaging the machine. Secondly when frothing the milk get heated quickly how do I go about reducing the heat. Thanks
It's not. I wouldn't worry about it. The vibratory pump is good and I only had to replace it once. It's been going strong since then. And i make 1-2 coffees a day.
Also, to test if the machine is not defective use the pressurized baskets if it gets to pressure in those, then there's no reason other than the grind size
At around minute 11 he does mention that maybe his pump failed because of usage of water spout… I wouldn’t recommend it for tea. Nothing beats a kettle.
Hi, great video. I got this machine recently and every time I use it I end up with about half a cup of water in the tray below. I understand that the machine does a purge after use but is 150-200 ml of water in tray normal after each use? I got a replacement but same issue. Appreciate any advice.
My machine started tripping the gfci. I replaced the pump and it worked 3 times and started doing the same thing again. Is it the solenoid that is bad?
If your GFCI is tripping that means there is some thing that is hitting ground. GFCI breaker trips when the positive side doesn't match the current on the neutral side. It's also possible you have a bad GFCI.... Try a different outlet.
I realize the Capresso Infinity is not quite recommended for espresso, but how does it work with the Breville Infuser? How is it with both the pressurized and the non pressurized baskets? I'm not too picky, but just bought a Breville Infuser and was wondering if I needed to upgrade the grinder too. I plan to just use the pressurized baskets for a while and may move on up to the non pressurized baskets later. Do you think the Capresso Infinity will be at least good enough?
Hey I was getting an issue where the machine pours out half of the shot volume during the pre-infusion. Any way to fix that? Also, not getting a good crema. Have fresh beans (2-3 weeks since roast) and the pressure on the gauge seems fine.
I had the same problem. Now I pull manual shot and weight it in the mean time. Most high end machines all require manual shot, might as well practice for my future machine upgrade lol
Thank you for your informative and clear review. I am still getting used to mine as I am finding it difficult to to get a good quantity of coffee from the infuser. Altered my grinds, currently on 18 which is much courser than I have been using on my Sunbeam Cafe Espresso ll. any tips may be helpful. Thank you
I'm seeing this machine listed as BES840XL/A and BES840XL. Are they the same machine, or was there a change to the model at some point to warrant the /A?
I just checked, I normally put 15grams, but you can definitely squeeze 2 more. So I'd say 17-18grams is the max. (my grinder is on a digital timer that's why I know it's consistent)
I don't go by time. I use the pressure gauge to dial it in and it works very well. You really want the dial straight up to perhaps a tad to the left. Excellent coffee when it reaches that sweet spot.
Can you post a video about how to change temperature settings and cup size for breville machine? I just got my machine and cant figure out the settings.
This machine was updated to have a temperature control option (mine is before the update) so I can't do that. I may do a video on how to set the volume.
How is your breville infuser holding up? I’m planning on purchasing the infuser but I’m reading reviews that they don’t last and that they break after short time.
Mine has been working ever since. Just the pump. And I usually have we have 2 cups a day. It's a thumbs up for me. I would get it again if it broke today. (But a lot of stuff is fixable.)
Great Review 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼I have Breville Caffe Roma and would like to upgrade to this.. Is it worth it?? And great point on design I guess sometimes you pay what you get for right so.. How long pump lasts? And what to expect to fix this espresso? I’m trying to find used one but they want money close to the new one lol.. Alan H
@@ureviews It’s very nice of you make this video and Kudos to you my friend 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Also to ask you are all Breville espresso machines using same pump when they break down?? I’m kinda Curious, and per these things to break down it’s normal my neighbour had $3000 machine and make no difference it’s things wear and tear.. I’m stuck between this one your reviewing Breville Infuser or Breville Barrista with grinder built in? What’s your take? And course I want stainless steel built all around my neighbour have one white rust on bottom where tray is how this is even possible and not sure if can go away. Alan H
I have a link to the pump in the description. And this pump works well with the breville. Other machines that use vibratory type pump are all that cheap as far as I know.
It has an OPV for the PUMP which is adjustable. It doesn't have an OPV for the heating element as far as I know. (Not sure it needs one cause it's not a boiler)
I’ve just got this machine as well and loving it. But I can’t seem to get the milk as thick as what u did in the vid. Any ideas ? I use full cream milk
I'm lactose intolerant and use 3 percent lactose free milk, Still get good foam and satisfied with the flavour. Although I may tempt fate and try regular whole milk to taste the difference.
That’s your problem. Full cream will guarantee no foam. Not to mention it’ll shorten your life by half. Non-fat skim will give you the best foam. But 2% would do.
Hi there. Great review! Any recommendations on what coffee/espresso to use for this particular machine? I usually buy mine ground already but I see that you grind yours. I’m in Canada so brands will likely be different. Thanks! :)
Question here on the replacement pump. I notice that on Amazon it is advertised as "dramatically increasing" the pressure. I'm wondering, would it be worthwhile replacing the default pump with the one you recommend even if your current one is still working fine? I ask because I'm getting the Sette 270wi soon and from what I hear, the Infuser chokes on the finer espresso settings when you're dialing in the grinder, which causes the pull to be a bit more on the watery side, and with less crema. Do you think that replacing the pump to increase the pressure would help to get that extra richness and texture on the extraction?
So if I understand this correctly, the only real reason to get the 1/1.5 min over the 2/1 min is the price? And the assumption here too is that one would never run the pump for longer than a minute continuously, right? But couldn't it take longer than a minute when you're steaming milk?
You probably aren't grinding your coffee fine enough to allow pressure to build. Unfortunately, you will have to spend at least another $100 or more to get a grinder that can get that level of fineness. Start also by using the double walled filter included. This will help build some pressure.
ureviews so I’ve seen/heard a lot of comments about needing a good grinder for espresso, and that the Capresso Infinity isn’t meant for making espresso in non-pressurized baskets. I have the Capresso Infinity and really like it, but currently only use it with a pressurized basket (Delonghi Dedica). Is it suitable for making espresso in a machine like the Breville Infuser or Duo Temp Pro? Or any machine with non-pressurized baskets? If not, could you explain why? Doesn’t grind fine enough? Inconsistent? Etc. Thinking of upgrading to a better espresso machine and wonder if I need a better grinder as well.
It really depends what you want to spend... How often will you use it... Are you OK with 90% quality or are you willing to pay times-fold more for that extra 9%. (nothing is perfect)
Thank you very much for this video. It answered a lot of my questions. I started to be very confused what espresso machine should I buy because I have read some complains about this model. Lot of "coffee geeks" told me Breville (or Catler, Sage, Solis, Bork ...) never more. The most of them had bad experience with the PUMP. They said the best I can buy is Gaggia Classic, Rancillio Silvia or Lelit PL 41 EM (or TEM because it has PID). I realy dont understand why those machines are soooo better if they use same type of pump. Other components also seem to be same if I focusing just for brewing, except portafillters size, of course. The steaming is not so important for me, so I dont care boiler vs thermocoil. I like Catler ES 8011 SE (rebranded model, same as Breville BES840XL (the Infuser)) so much and I almost bought it. but I still have the doubts about the quality and durability of the machine. You use it for 3 years and it is still working though :D. Only thing you had to replace was the pump. Here in Europe, Catler comes with 3-years warranty. It might be the good reason to buy it. What do you think? Got one more question: what about the pre-infusion time? In the instruction manual, there is information about pre- infusion "programing" but you have said you dont like the impossibility to set the infusion time because machine is not measuring the time but the volume (if I understand it right). So the question is: If I use always the same coffee and the same grinder settings, do I have the same result of brewed shot? If yes, can I set pre-infussion time and "volume" of shot manually (it can be done according the instruction) and brew always the same shots? Thank you.
There is no way to set the preinfusion time (or volume) it's pre set no matter what. UNLESS you do a complete manual extraction which is by long pressing on one of the brewing buttons and releasing when your ok with the preinfusion and then it continues in full pressure. Did that answer your question? And yes it seems weird to me the whole pump situation. Regardless, now you know they are all pretty cheap to replace (and easy depending on the way they hooked the pump)
Yes, you got it right. Thank you. Do you have any complaints about the durability? Would you buy the Infusor again or do you recommend different machine to buy?
There's no other machine in this price range that: 1) Has PID 2) Thermocoil 3) Real steam wand 4) Design But regardless, i think if you dial it right, you can get pretty pretty good shots. Correct me if i'm wrong :-) (I did this research a few years ago)
Finaly I found one issue of the breville espresso machines. They all have plastic insert collar. It´s the part where the portafilter is putted in and tightened up (in a grouphead). It is a big dissappointment for me. Why they use plastic insted of metall? I just dont get it.
What I dislike about this model is that its top warming plate is of plastic. However, the most important feature of this machine shall be the pressure gauge and pre-infusing, it’s a Breville Barista Express, minus a grinder. Breville really plan their product lineup covering all angles. I moved from bes800 with 51mm filter basket, and being experienced with a dual boiler before, I think Infuser and Express really hit the sweet spot for home brewers.
Hello, i'm using this machine for a 4 month now. In Europe the company call it Catler ES8011SE. There is one thing that i really, really don't like on that machine. Eco-mode. You need to heat up the machine for a good shot, so why the h*ll the machine turns off after circa 30mins (circa 15min it goes to standby mode with no heating up the brew group). That's ridiculous. Is that the same in the US version?
This model goes into standby mode first (element still kept hot) then it shuts it down. To quickly warm the Brew head I just run a blank shot to a cup. Warm up the cup the head and the portafilter in one step.
ureviews Right, i'm doing it the same way. But after one shot of hot water, the brew group is not still ready for good shot. Neither the portafilter. I'm waiting to hear up all the brew group incl. portafilter for a 20-30min ať least. After that i'm able to make a decent shot with no sourness (using the Eureka Mignon grinder) in the bottom of the mug. I'm making 25ml espresso for myself only and a cup of cappuccino or latte for my wife.
You would need to wait about the same for any other machine. The one thing I wish this machine had, is a timer. Would be nice to have it all warmed up when you wake up.
Don't get me wrong i like the machine and i don't need to change it right now. But for me the proper heating up is the main factor of the good espresso machine and to make really good drink. To a timer you mentioned. I saw it on some Silvia's... the time switched plug, directly to power main. Not important to me because to have a cup of coffee in 6 o'clock in the morning... in would not give that :)
@@tomasjokay4019 Something I don't understand , why wait 30 min. to warm up what? it says on specification that that takes 45 seconds to warm up the machine .
@@ureviews agree Have not seen any similar price range with a pressure dial, PID temperature monitoring and control, while programmable for pre-infusing at low pressure. And it’s 2022 now.
It's always a balance. Point of the review is to mention potential flaws. You decide if they are for you. And obviously money make a lot of flaws go away.
Steaming w this machine takes several minutes. I suggest you steam first, as the espresso only takes a few seconds. If you do your shot first, it will be like ice before you're finished steaming.
Steaming takes less than 2 minutes (if i'm correct 90 seconds). I've got it to a science :-) perhaps I'll make a video on how to get the best foam for latte art out of this machine cause it's really easy. (Unfortunately when I video it, I never works... bla bla performance anxiety etc. :-)
I was going to ask,myself, why everyone seems to pull their shots first, then steam. I am a barista at a coffee shop (and am obsessed ebough I am considering buying a machine for home)... But we always start steaming the milk before pulling shots because we want to get the shots in the milk before they "die".(they die after only about 10 seconds according to our standards) Is there a reason in this machine, to pull shots first?
@@leilad.6016 because he doesnt know what hes doing but acts like it. Anyone knows you put your shot in the milk as soon as its done pulling. I hate reviews that are done by people who dont even know the subject. If youre a barista then you know what youre doing. He doesnt
I love this machine, but how do you know what grind to use? I just got the Breville Dose Control grinder. I am using the setting just over 12 and it makes a weird noise (the espresso machine) the gauge fluctuates with pressure, is that normal? Do I need a new pump?
once it starts brewing, it should climb in pressure and stay there, you want it towards the end of the grey zone. Steaming milk is about 90 seconds. I'd use a thermostat if you want to learn the feel, 140-150F.
Robert J Dumont Jr steam till hot to the touch. Or get a thermometer and get it to the right temperature. Make sure it is aerated before you reach this temperature. Don’t go over the temperature just to get the right aeration, otherwise you’ll burn the milk and the whole thing will be bad
Umm, no, the top is not made of plastic. It's a metal alloy. (It's a warming tray. If it was plastic, it would melt from the heat). I have several Brevilles, including a model very similar to yours, which I have taken apart, so I know what they're made of. I also don't quite understand what your problem is with cleaning the top. It's a sealed top, easier to clean than most. If reliability is an important factor, than an old Italian SBDU machine (ie. Saeco Aroma), like what they made decades ago, is going to be much more reliable than any Breville. That said, the Brevilles have a lot going for them on other factors..
It seems like your biggest problem is you wo'n't make a good design engineer. The tank is what I like and the pressure gauge. No rubber hoses to remove, it's not inside the housing and reinstall lke those Italian machines.
You don't need to remove hoses... You use a jug to fill the tank. There are plenty of very expensive and highly engineered machines that work they way.
You know it's crazy, there are videos like this, that I expect would do better. And then there are videos I make that I don't expect much and they do much better. Go figure :-)
The bad parts of the maker. You dont like how the handle operates, because you say that dust, dirt or coffee grinds could end up on the lid and could end up in the water tank. I don't even want yo know what you do to end up with bits of coffee grinds not only on top of the maker but on the back of the unit? Humm, I dont know, I guess you and your espresso maker have a coffee grind fight? But wait, correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you state that you refill the water reservoir every other time you use it? Ok, for argument sake, lets just say, in some very bazaar way you do end up with coffee grinds on the TOP and way way BACK of the unit, I'm sure you have a dishcloth in or around your sink. It would be not much more than a fraction of a millisecond very easy wipe up. So how on god's green earth would dust/dirt even have a chance on collecting on top of the lid? Unless you keep a very dirty house, you should have no worries about bust/dirt collection. The plunger style for the bottom of the water tank. That would be a concern for malfunction? Um, no not really, there is a spring that closes a rubber flap that keeps water from pouring out of the tank as you're filling up. And trust me, I assure you, it will not malfunction in any way. I have a Keurig, and the water reservoir has the same type of plunger setup. I've had my Keurig going on two years now and the plunger works just as it did when I first used the unit. The top of this maker is plastic? Big deal, so what, just don't the cat out of the box, do not spill the beans, do not tell your friends the top portion of your espresso maker is plastic! The rest is stainless.
You do understand the point of a review? Point out possible flaws and the viewer decides if it's a big or non issue for them. Thanks for the long comment though.
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Few more thoughts (I'll add as I think about them):
1) Thermocoil vs. Boilers. There's obviously advantages to boilers but the best thing about a thermocoil is that it's pretty much instant.
2) It's serviceable. That's a major plus, especially the pump which is easily swapable and cheap.
3) This machine was updated to be able to change the brew temperature. (Same model, same everything, they just added this added functionality)
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Great review! I've watched plenty of videos on the Infuser and the Barista Express but in this video, I've learned a lot of new stuff. Thank you!
One of the best overall descriptions of this machine on YT. Thank you for the tips.
Gold 🏅, this video is head and shoulders above ALL Breville Infuser videos.
This dude is smart and kudos for such an incredibly informative video.
Gold 🏅 all the way
Thanks so much, machine still working like a champ. I'm actually quite surprised nothing broke since I made that video.
Overall I think it's still probably the best value in the industry and I make 1 or 2 lattes a day.
I might make another video soon on how to make latte art for beginners.
Glad I watched this video, very informative. I have a question after you pour a double shot and steam milk how, much water is in your drip tray? Ty.
Great review and instruction.. I will save this for my first usage of this espresso machine when it arrives. Thanks again.
I ended up ordering a Breville Bambino instead; great features on a smaller machine.
Thanks so much for all reviews.
Thank you for the comprehensive review. Eventually the group head gasket on any machine gets hard, doesn't seal well and needs to be replaced. How do you replace it on this machine?
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Thank you so much for your thorough review. The world of espresso machines is very confusing and I so appreciate your willingness to share your insights.
I'm happy to say that your criticisms of this machine were really minor ones. I upgraded from the Cafe Roma and was afraid you were gonna say this machine sucks or something along those lines. So far I'm glad I upgraded. For the price point I think it's great. I looked into some other machines but can't afford the 2000 dollar ones. I chuckled a little at your foam work because that was exactly what I got the first time as well. Good review.
Yeah for the price, there's nothing close. I blame performance anxiety for that foam! :-)
@@ureviewsI watched this today and way jumped the gun, bc I'd mixed a descaling solution for the water tank -- and then read that a blinking cleaning light meant the machine wasn't ready to descale. But your video was so cool and I have the hardest time reading the water levels in the tank, and getting that latch handle to cooperate! So I loved your preliminary critique. Maybe you aren't there because this video is 5 years old. But -- thank you if this finds you. ps after cleaning and descaling there is definitely less clinking and shuddering going on. And I used the steam attachment for the first time. I'd forgotten to immerse it, and so the hissing and splattering had put me off
@@sylviapeck1681 Glad it helped you. Thanks for letting me know.
good job sir! that's what I expect a review to be! Thank you!
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Thanks for the video. Just changed my Infuser pump using your advice. Back to good coffee. Thanks again.
Whoa I have the same machine, grinder, and even espresso cup. I feel less of a rookie now. Thank you for posting this, there was a lot I was doing wrong.
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Thank you for sharing the info about the pump & cleaning tabs. I just bought this model this week & will be needing the knowledge you shared!
Vickie Vik getting mine tuesday! wooohooo
Hey hows you'r espresso machine working
About a month ago it started making a buzzing noise. I bought the part (solenoid assembly) but haven't replaced it yet. Still working but the buzzing comes and go. I'll swap it when I have time to video it. The part was 75 bucks or so.
Very nice video, fun informative and nicely done
Very informative.....I've had mine a month and love it...just did my first back-flush. Great info about the pump for later on!
Awesome review, thank you! We just got this machine, and the feedback about the pump is really useful to know.
I rarely comment but wow thanks a lot for this video. Amazing insight and info about the machine. I just bought this yesterday and this video answer all the technical questionso has
Very helpful video. Thank you. Did you remove the plastic inside the porta filter? I’ve read reviews where some people removed it because of the plastic. If you did remove it, how did you do it? Thank you
I asked brevile why they have it, they said it's so the coffee doesn't lose it's heat, so if you pre warm the portal filter it's not needed , that being said to remove it, you unscrew the bottom spout and then it's easy to just pop it out.
coffee is coffee just ignore those people who has something bad to say. you are doing right I just bought it and you are right about the plastic all metal but the top heater is plastic. its like a battle tank but your canon is made of plastic.
Hi! I have this machine (bought it in 2015) and the steam and hot water functions stopped working about a week ago, and now the espresso works pretty weakly. Probably the pump? Thank you for the great video!
95% chance it's the pump. cheap to replace too so worth doing it regardless
I have a question about how to know its time to replace the pump. My pump is sounding off like it is operating however the steam pressure is extremely low and will only work for part of the time. Also, the water spigot has stopped working. The machine has been cleaned and descaled. I'm wondering if its the pump or vapor locked. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Great review and spot on.
How old is the machine?
Sounds like a pump issue and pumps are super cheap. Might as well get a new pump and see if it fixes the issue.
@@ureviews the machine is 5+ years old. I've read some things that it sounds like it could be vapor locked. Making shots is no problem, its just affecting the steam wand and hot water.
Hi , my machine the water keeps flowing when doing a shot , 75% of the time , I have to stop the shot manually, then occasionally it stops itself. I have tried descaling with vinegar, helped for about the next 10 shots. Would the flow meter be scaled up ? is it repairable ?
Thank you good video I had a lot of breville machines and I found them unreliable what would you recommend if not breville with rotary pump
Rotary pump you'd have to turn to the professional or semi professional libe of espresso machines.... Mine has been working pretty solid with me just replacing the pump ones.
Good evening. Thanks for the video. I purchased the EAX5 and I'm unsure if the brass will connect to the original piping. Any thoughts?
My breville BES840XL espresso machine has a silicone ring on the screw in between where the frother is attached to came off. How can I replace it because there is water dripping out and it's releasing steam alos. please how can I resolve this issue without damaging the machine. Secondly when frothing the milk get heated quickly how do I go about reducing the heat. Thanks
Watch my how to replace the silicon ring video. ua-cam.com/video/XSmttsIQC7M/v-deo.html
Why the descale light won't go off after doing the cleaning cycle please advise thanks?
You sure you are running the descale function? If you did... I would suggest you call the tech support
I just got my machine and the gauge doesn't move when pulling a shot. Would that indicate the pump is not working?
Is it pulling a shot? if it is then the gauge is bad.
How hot does espresso come out? To me that’s one of the key points
Is the rotary pump compatible with The Infuser. If so what ratio duty cycle should I get?
It's not. I wouldn't worry about it. The vibratory pump is good and I only had to replace it once. It's been going strong since then. And i make 1-2 coffees a day.
Thanks - very useful video. I'm struggling to get the pressure up - can you recommend the optimum grind of the beans?
When you grind if you grab some and squeeze it, it should clump up. If it doesn't then it's not fine enough.
Also, to test if the machine is not defective use the pressurized baskets if it gets to pressure in those, then there's no reason other than the grind size
Hi! My breville machine won’t come out of the pumping stage….it just keeps going pump pump pump but no steam actually comes out, what should I do?
So it does the ticking sound but water doesn't come out?
@@ureviews correct! And when I press the hot water option, the steam comes out of that tube instead…should I open it and try to fix it?
You might have a clog. Or a bad pump. I would guess it's the pump even though it's making the sound.
Is the hot water spout adequate for tea? I’m trying to combine coffee and kettle with this machine.
Yes. Faster with this than it is to heat a kettle, despite slow stream.
At around minute 11 he does mention that maybe his pump failed because of usage of water spout… I wouldn’t recommend it for tea. Nothing beats a kettle.
Hi, great video. I got this machine recently and every time I use it I end up with about half a cup of water in the tray below. I understand that the machine does a purge after use but is 150-200 ml of water in tray normal after each use? I got a replacement but same issue. Appreciate any advice.
I dump the tray every day 6 times or so. Seems normal, it's not a big tray.
My machine started tripping the gfci. I replaced the pump and it worked 3 times and started doing the same thing again. Is it the solenoid that is bad?
If your GFCI is tripping that means there is some thing that is hitting ground. GFCI breaker trips when the positive side doesn't match the current on the neutral side.
It's also possible you have a bad GFCI.... Try a different outlet.
Best video on the Breville. Thank you for doing a good job with all the details.
I realize the Capresso Infinity is not quite recommended for espresso, but how does it work with the Breville Infuser? How is it with both the pressurized and the non pressurized baskets? I'm not too picky, but just bought a Breville Infuser and was wondering if I needed to upgrade the grinder too. I plan to just use the pressurized baskets for a while and may move on up to the non pressurized baskets later. Do you think the Capresso Infinity will be at least good enough?
Absolutely fine. Daily I use a different grinder but just because my other one is more convenient
Hey I was getting an issue where the machine pours out half of the shot volume during the pre-infusion. Any way to fix that? Also, not getting a good crema. Have fresh beans (2-3 weeks since roast) and the pressure on the gauge seems fine.
I had the same problem. Now I pull manual shot and weight it in the mean time. Most high end machines all require manual shot, might as well practice for my future machine upgrade lol
Thank you for your informative and clear review. I am still getting used to mine as I am finding it difficult to to get a good quantity of coffee from the infuser. Altered my grinds, currently on 18 which is much courser than I have been using on my Sunbeam Cafe Espresso ll. any tips may be helpful. Thank you
I'd be happy to help. Can you get the needle to the 12oclock area? I just had a fabulous latte 😊
@@ureviews Yes no probs there. I think the infusion time is ok. I am aware that can only vary with the grind size and the tamp,
Perhaps just the coffee beans (are not the best..)? What grinder do you use?
This is the best review I've seen. Good job, sir. Very thorough
Wondering if you could do a cleaning vid? I just recently did my first back flush, but also wondering if there is anything I’m missing?
Sure. Next time the light flashes. Should happen pretty soon.
Heads up, this video will be posted today. :-)
I'm seeing this machine listed as BES840XL/A and BES840XL. Are they the same machine, or was there a change to the model at some point to warrant the /A?
As far as I know the A is for America version.
Does the smaller portafilter prevent you from getting the 18-20 grams suggested for a double shot?
I just checked, I normally put 15grams, but you can definitely squeeze 2 more. So I'd say 17-18grams is the max.
(my grinder is on a digital timer that's why I know it's consistent)
Love your comments... negative and positive.. Thanks...
What kind of watt meter is that your using
For a double shot (2oz), how long must be the process? 24 sec or 34 sec, I mean 10 sec for preinfusion and 24 sec for extraction, total 34 sec?
I don't go by time. I use the pressure gauge to dial it in and it works very well. You really want the dial straight up to perhaps a tad to the left. Excellent coffee when it reaches that sweet spot.
can you walkthrough how to replace the pump?
Can you post a video about how to change temperature settings and cup size for breville machine? I just got my machine and cant figure out the settings.
This machine was updated to have a temperature control option (mine is before the update) so I can't do that. I may do a video on how to set the volume.
How is your breville infuser holding up? I’m planning on purchasing the infuser but I’m reading reviews that they don’t last and that they break after short time.
Mine has been working ever since. Just the pump.
And I usually have we have 2 cups a day.
It's a thumbs up for me. I would get it again if it broke today. (But a lot of stuff is fixable.)
Thanks for your good demonstration and explanations.
Great machine. Had a cup this morning!
What can be the cause of low pressure? 6 year old machine.
Probably the pump. It's cheap enough to give it a try. Check out the description.
Honest, technical, in-depth. Great review! 👍🏼
Great Review 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼I have Breville Caffe Roma and would like to upgrade to this..
Is it worth it?? And great point on design I guess sometimes you pay what you get for right so..
How long pump lasts? And what to expect to fix this espresso?
I’m trying to find used one but they want money close to the new one lol..
Alan H
Absolutely worth it. Ive been making 2 cups a day since I got it and I only changed the pump 1 time (30 bucks)
@@ureviews
It’s very nice of you make this video and Kudos to you my friend 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Also to ask you are all Breville espresso machines using same pump when they break down??
I’m kinda Curious, and per these things to break down it’s normal my neighbour had $3000 machine and make no difference it’s things wear and tear..
I’m stuck between this one your reviewing Breville Infuser or Breville Barrista with grinder built in?
What’s your take?
And course I want stainless steel built all around my neighbour have one white rust on bottom where tray is how this is even possible and not sure if can go away.
Alan H
I have a link to the pump in the description.
And this pump works well with the breville. Other machines that use vibratory type pump are all that cheap as far as I know.
Thanks for the great review. Question - does it have an OPV? I know it has a 3-way valve, but does it also have an OPV?
It has an OPV for the PUMP which is adjustable. It doesn't have an OPV for the heating element as far as I know. (Not sure it needs one cause it's not a boiler)
How long do these machines typically last?
I've only replaced the pump once. And I do 1 to 2 cups a day. Still like new. Great machine.
I’ve just got this machine as well and loving it. But I can’t seem to get the milk as thick as what u did in the vid. Any ideas ? I use full cream milk
+CJ Mac use 2%. Counter intuitively, lower fat gives more foam but less rich flavor. So 2% is a good balance.
ureviews ok thanks
I'm lactose intolerant and use 3 percent lactose free milk, Still get good foam and satisfied with the flavour. Although I may tempt fate and try regular whole milk to taste the difference.
That’s your problem. Full cream will guarantee no foam. Not to mention it’ll shorten your life by half. Non-fat skim will give you the best foam. But 2% would do.
AWESOME video, thanks so much for the useful information! You rock.
Hi there. Great review! Any recommendations on what coffee/espresso to use for this particular machine? I usually buy mine ground already but I see that you grind yours. I’m in Canada so brands will likely be different. Thanks! :)
I use this: extrafudge.com/ref/amzn.to/327WJEl or this: extrafudge.com/ref/amzn.to/39HCoZg
If I need to replace the pump on the Breville duo temp pro is it the same instructions. This was the best video review I have seen. Thanks so much!!!
I'm 99.99% sure it's the same pump. And thank you so much :-) The pump I replaced is still going strong!
Question here on the replacement pump.
I notice that on Amazon it is advertised as "dramatically increasing" the pressure. I'm wondering, would it be worthwhile replacing the default pump with the one you recommend even if your current one is still working fine?
I ask because I'm getting the Sette 270wi soon and from what I hear, the Infuser chokes on the finer espresso settings when you're dialing in the grinder, which causes the pull to be a bit more on the watery side, and with less crema.
Do you think that replacing the pump to increase the pressure would help to get that extra richness and texture on the extraction?
I don't think you'll get more pressure. (Unless your current one is defective)
@@ureviews Follow-up point of clarification here, if you don't mind. What is the difference then between the 2/1 min vs. the 1/1.5 min?
First number I believe is how long it can work continuously and the 2nd is how long it needs to rest before it can run the first number again.
So if I understand this correctly, the only real reason to get the 1/1.5 min over the 2/1 min is the price? And the assumption here too is that one would never run the pump for longer than a minute continuously, right?
But couldn't it take longer than a minute when you're steaming milk?
Right, but since these are so cheap. I wouldn't worry about it that much. My 2nd pump is now on it's 5th or 6th year. Maybe more actually.
Really helpful. This was all I needed. Sold.
Is the needle indicating pressure supposed to move everytime you make coffe? I just bought it and it does not move.
+Daniel Bertone yes!
Yup
You probably aren't grinding your coffee fine enough to allow pressure to build. Unfortunately, you will have to spend at least another $100 or more to get a grinder that can get that level of fineness. Start also by using the double walled filter included. This will help build some pressure.
it's not the grinding. The pre Infusion time on these is a tad too long. And P.S i have a "pro" level grinder, I just didn't use it for the video.
ureviews so I’ve seen/heard a lot of comments about needing a good grinder for espresso, and that the Capresso Infinity isn’t meant for making espresso in non-pressurized baskets. I have the Capresso Infinity and really like it, but currently only use it with a pressurized basket (Delonghi Dedica). Is it suitable for making espresso in a machine like the Breville Infuser or Duo Temp Pro? Or any machine with non-pressurized baskets? If not, could you explain why? Doesn’t grind fine enough? Inconsistent? Etc. Thinking of upgrading to a better espresso machine and wonder if I need a better grinder as well.
What is the best with good priced grinder you recommend?
It really depends what you want to spend...
How often will you use it...
Are you OK with 90% quality or are you willing to pay times-fold more for that extra 9%. (nothing is perfect)
ureviews Yes you are very right but I wanted to buy this machine but I do not know the good grinder for this machine give me name in your opinion 🌾☕️
Hi, is this machine same with the infuser bes 840 bss?
YES, BSS stands for Brushed Stainless Steel.
Thank you very much for this video. It answered a lot of my questions. I started to be very confused what espresso machine should I buy because I have read some complains about this model. Lot of "coffee geeks" told me Breville (or Catler, Sage, Solis, Bork ...) never more. The most of them had bad experience with the PUMP. They said the best I can buy is Gaggia Classic, Rancillio Silvia or Lelit PL 41 EM (or TEM because it has PID). I realy dont understand why those machines are soooo better if they use same type of pump. Other components also seem to be same if I focusing just for brewing, except portafillters size, of course. The steaming is not so important for me, so I dont care boiler vs thermocoil. I like Catler ES 8011 SE (rebranded model, same as Breville BES840XL (the Infuser)) so much and I almost bought it. but I still have the doubts about the quality and durability of the machine. You use it for 3 years and it is still working though :D. Only thing you had to replace was the pump. Here in Europe, Catler comes with 3-years warranty. It might be the good reason to buy it. What do you think?
Got one more question: what about the pre-infusion time? In the instruction manual, there is information about pre- infusion "programing" but you have said you dont like the impossibility to set the infusion time because machine is not measuring the time but the volume (if I understand it right). So the question is: If I use always the same coffee and the same grinder settings, do I have the same result of brewed shot? If yes, can I set pre-infussion time and "volume" of shot manually (it can be done according the instruction) and brew always the same shots?
Thank you.
There is no way to set the preinfusion time (or volume) it's pre set no matter what. UNLESS you do a complete manual extraction which is by long pressing on one of the brewing buttons and releasing when your ok with the preinfusion and then it continues in full pressure. Did that answer your question?
And yes it seems weird to me the whole pump situation. Regardless, now you know they are all pretty cheap to replace (and easy depending on the way they hooked the pump)
Yes, you got it right. Thank you. Do you have any complaints about the durability? Would you buy the Infusor again or do you recommend different machine to buy?
There's no other machine in this price range that: 1) Has PID 2) Thermocoil 3) Real steam wand 4) Design
But regardless, i think if you dial it right, you can get pretty pretty good shots.
Correct me if i'm wrong :-) (I did this research a few years ago)
You´re definitely right. You´ve helped me a lot. Thank you one more time and wish you all the best.
Finaly I found one issue of the breville espresso machines. They all have plastic insert collar. It´s the part where the portafilter is putted in and tightened up (in a grouphead). It is a big dissappointment for me. Why they use plastic insted of metall? I just dont get it.
What I dislike about this model is that its top warming plate is of plastic.
However, the most important feature of this machine shall be the pressure gauge and pre-infusing, it’s a Breville Barista Express, minus a grinder.
Breville really plan their product lineup covering all angles.
I moved from bes800 with 51mm filter basket, and being experienced with a dual boiler before, I think Infuser and Express really hit the sweet spot for home brewers.
The warming plate is not a big deal, because you don't leave the machine running at all times anyway.
Hello,
i'm using this machine for a 4 month now. In Europe the company call it Catler ES8011SE. There is one thing that i really, really don't like on that machine. Eco-mode. You need to heat up the machine for a good shot, so why the h*ll the machine turns off after circa 30mins (circa 15min it goes to standby mode with no heating up the brew group). That's ridiculous. Is that the same in the US version?
This model goes into standby mode first (element still kept hot) then it shuts it down. To quickly warm the Brew head I just run a blank shot to a cup. Warm up the cup the head and the portafilter in one step.
ureviews Right, i'm doing it the same way. But after one shot of hot water, the brew group is not still ready for good shot. Neither the portafilter. I'm waiting to hear up all the brew group incl. portafilter for a 20-30min ať least. After that i'm able to make a decent shot with no sourness (using the Eureka Mignon grinder) in the bottom of the mug. I'm making 25ml espresso for myself only and a cup of cappuccino or latte for my wife.
You would need to wait about the same for any other machine. The one thing I wish this machine had, is a timer. Would be nice to have it all warmed up when you wake up.
Don't get me wrong i like the machine and i don't need to change it right now. But for me the proper heating up is the main factor of the good espresso machine and to make really good drink. To a timer you mentioned. I saw it on some Silvia's... the time switched plug, directly to power main. Not important to me because to have a cup of coffee in 6 o'clock in the morning... in would not give that :)
@@tomasjokay4019 Something I don't understand , why wait 30 min. to warm up what? it says on specification that that takes 45 seconds to warm up the machine .
Fantastic mate, thank you for this
whats a good machine for similar price ?
I don't think there is one
@@ureviews agree
Have not seen any similar price range with a pressure dial, PID temperature monitoring and control, while programmable for pre-infusing at low pressure.
And it’s 2022 now.
The link to the pump is no longer available.
Fixed the links. Thanks!
I have this machine and the temperature gauge does not work
There's no temperature gauge on this machine
my local shop water tray is a red dot that floats, while yours will pop out with Empty Me
This was very helpful, thanks for posting!
Awesome comprehensive review!
Great review, really helpful. 👍
Still going strong. Amazing!
Awesome video! I'm saving up for one
awesome vid dude thanks
Very informative review. Thank you.
Great review! But due to your criticisms and things you don’t like, I would buy a more expensive machine such as an ECM or Rocket.
This is the best value machine.
I agree but I am just saying that if you really do have a problem with the small flaws you should probably get a higher end machine.
Taco yeah, but they are at least $1300 more, and if you’re not gonna go for a rotary pump ecm or rocket... what is the point?
It's always a balance. Point of the review is to mention potential flaws. You decide if they are for you. And obviously money make a lot of flaws go away.
Steaming w this machine takes several minutes. I suggest you steam first, as the espresso only takes a few seconds. If you do your shot first, it will be like ice before you're finished steaming.
Steaming takes less than 2 minutes (if i'm correct 90 seconds). I've got it to a science :-) perhaps I'll make a video on how to get the best foam for latte art out of this machine cause it's really easy. (Unfortunately when I video it, I never works... bla bla performance anxiety etc. :-)
I was going to ask,myself, why everyone seems to pull their shots first, then steam. I am a barista at a coffee shop (and am obsessed ebough I am considering buying a machine for home)... But we always start steaming the milk before pulling shots because we want to get the shots in the milk before they "die".(they die after only about 10 seconds according to our standards) Is there a reason in this machine, to pull shots first?
@@leilad.6016 because he doesnt know what hes doing but acts like it. Anyone knows you put your shot in the milk as soon as its done pulling. I hate reviews that are done by people who dont even know the subject. If youre a barista then you know what youre doing. He doesnt
This narrator knows his subject, if only because your average consumer is not going to know anything about pumps. And, he does.
@18:05 Larry David?
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Excellent review
Great video. Best I have seen....
Thank you! Make sure you click on the read more in the pinned comment, I generally put more information about stuff that I forgot to mention.
I love this machine, but how do you know what grind to use? I just got the Breville Dose Control grinder. I am using the setting just over 12 and it makes a weird noise (the espresso machine) the gauge fluctuates with pressure, is that normal? Do I need a new pump?
Your grind should be fine enough so when you squeeze it in your hand it clumps.
But the pressure fluctuates on the machine. Is that normal? Also how long should the stream run? Thank you
once it starts brewing, it should climb in pressure and stay there, you want it towards the end of the grey zone. Steaming milk is about 90 seconds. I'd use a thermostat if you want to learn the feel, 140-150F.
Robert J Dumont Jr steam till hot to the touch. Or get a thermometer and get it to the right temperature. Make sure it is aerated before you reach this temperature. Don’t go over the temperature just to get the right aeration, otherwise you’ll burn the milk and the whole thing will be bad
But you didn’t show top???
Watch the video in the description of the video
Thank you
Umm, no, the top is not made of plastic. It's a metal alloy. (It's a warming tray. If it was plastic, it would melt from the heat). I have several Brevilles, including a model very similar to yours, which I have taken apart, so I know what they're made of. I also don't quite understand what your problem is with cleaning the top. It's a sealed top, easier to clean than most.
If reliability is an important factor, than an old Italian SBDU machine (ie. Saeco Aroma), like what they made decades ago, is going to be much more reliable than any Breville. That said, the Brevilles have a lot going for them on other factors..
Well let me prove you wrong... ua-cam.com/video/9Q3hgfVPPXU/v-deo.html
I own this machine and have used it for about 6 months. I think this review is a little too negative. The tank, top, hot water and reservoir are fine.
I pointed out what I subjectivity think is a negative. But the review is positive. I think at the price offered,it has no competition...
It is called the infuser cuz it infuses.
If you steam the milk after, your espresso will go to shit in the first thirty seconds
I'd agree with you if you drank espresso. But in latte, I personally don't notice a difference.
He did a poor job of explaining the difference between the four metal filters. The entire discussion lasted only 30 seconds.
It seems like your biggest problem is you wo'n't make a good design engineer. The tank is what I like and the pressure gauge. No rubber hoses to remove, it's not inside the housing and reinstall lke those Italian machines.
You don't need to remove hoses... You use a jug to fill the tank.
There are plenty of very expensive and highly engineered machines that work they way.
only 300 views?
You know it's crazy, there are videos like this, that I expect would do better. And then there are videos I make that I don't expect much and they do much better. Go figure :-)
haha no i think it's a great video just not a lot of folks are finding it
hi guys this machine can be used in a small coffee shop
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loool. I have same grinder
The bad parts of the maker. You dont like how the handle operates, because you say that dust, dirt or coffee grinds could end up on the lid and could end up in the water tank. I don't even want yo know what you do to end up with bits of coffee grinds not only on top of the maker but on the back of the unit? Humm, I dont know, I guess you and your espresso maker have a coffee grind fight? But wait, correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you state that you refill the water reservoir every other time you use it? Ok, for argument sake, lets just say, in some very bazaar way you do end up with coffee grinds on the TOP and way way BACK of the unit, I'm sure you have a dishcloth in or around your sink. It would be not much more than a fraction of a millisecond very easy wipe up. So how on god's green earth would dust/dirt even have a chance on collecting on top of the lid? Unless you keep a very dirty house, you should have no worries about bust/dirt collection. The plunger style for the bottom of the water tank. That would be a concern for malfunction? Um, no not really, there is a spring that closes a rubber flap that keeps water from pouring out of the tank as you're filling up. And trust me, I assure you, it will not malfunction in any way. I have a Keurig, and the water reservoir has the same type of plunger setup. I've had my Keurig going on two years now and the plunger works just as it did when I first used the unit. The top of this maker is plastic? Big deal, so what, just don't the cat out of the box, do not spill the beans, do not tell your friends the top portion of your espresso maker is plastic! The rest is stainless.
You do understand the point of a review? Point out possible flaws and the viewer decides if it's a big or non issue for them. Thanks for the long comment though.