Hopium Detox and Recovery - Accepting & Trusting Unstoppable Collapse (Dowd 2022)
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- This is now the "post-doom" collapse education video I suggest that people watch first. It has the core elements of my other videos: postdoom.com/r... plus vital things none of the others contain. I'll add a more detailed description and time-coded table of contents to the UA-cam description box in the next day or two.
Out of curiosity, why did you have children if you accept that the collapse is only a few decades away? Why put them through that?
May I add Michael Dowd your courage, wisdom and insights are infinitely helpful in understanding WASF; and appreciated.
Thank you!
I recall Elon Musk offering up a million dollars to someone who comes up with the best carbon capture device.
I just want to congratulate whoever invents trees.
Nice!
Trees are beaten by healthy soil as it produces plants we eat and doesn't suffer fall (we have destroyed more than half the viable soil since the industrial revolution) Sadly, there is little impetus to repair it even though it was the answer. I say was, as it is too late anyway now as climate instability will ruin farming shortly, Soil restoration takes the few years we no longer have! Also our greed ,monetising the world would prevent it!
Chernobyl 1987 and Fukushima 2011 are clarion calls to your Hopium thesis, Michael Dowd! This is the end of habitat and extinction of homo sapiens sapiens.
There have been 4-5 historical "resets" and No. 6 here today is right on schedule. Thank you for a terrific reminder, great delivery! 👍👏
Thanks!
Humans will manage to survive just fine....only going from billions to millions, at most.
@@Bookhermit Agreed! Then the Earth can recover and heal.
Yes and the illegal wars created by the USA with 9/11, pulling out of the INF agreement with Russia, using neo-liberal loan scamming against Russia and causing them to himd US bonds as a stealth tax to pay for the USA war machine. Now it's all coming home to roost in proxy war and probably soon a full out war against Russia and China.
Conauming and burning more fossil fuesl and causing more mass starvation!
I'm so glad everyone worships the red and blue republicrat cult of the penis. Fin times! Here's to my "retirement", a.k.a, my mortality!
Thanks mom and dad for hating each other and then deciding to have a one night stand anyway then pop out a bany before never seeing each other again haha. Great adult choices!
The Austin leftists at 'Alternative Views' and John Stockwell warned us about bi-partisan corruption decades ago. Then Dr William Catton and others about the environment and carrying capacity etc.
And Jean Gebser and Oswald Spengler warned us before that about empire and the dangers of the mental-rational consciousness structure around 100 years ago. LOL. And then all the indigenous people for thousands of years, and Drew Hempel more recently too.
Beautiful talk.
'Get complete' is great advice.
Thanks, brother!
Thank you, Michael, for laying out a strange optimism for post doom acceptance action. I suspect that there will still be a lot of acting out that will occur. You've laid out a case for purposeful living even during the bust phase.
Thank you, Peace! Read your comment aloud to my beloved, Connie, and she said, "That's exactly it, he said it perfectly... 'purposeful living even during the bust phase'! Thanks, again.
This was fantastic! Thank you so much for all your work, most of all your honesty!
Thanks for your generous comment!
Acceptance is a bitter pill.
At first, yes.
Thank you brother for your honesty and integrity. You shine bright.
Thanks, John!
Thank you for your videos, I believe the biosphere is in great peril and I accept the reality of our situation.
Good for you, Robert!
You might like my channel too :)
Excellent presentation. Out here in Great Basin desert in northern Nevada the collapse of life is more noticeable because life is more sparse. Compared to ten years ago a walk in the desert reveals the disappearance of all the lizards, jack rabbits, and insects that used to be abundant.
Yup. Thanks for your comment.
@@thegreatstory My unmade point was that you don't need research papers and charts to see what is happening. The "data" is in our face, in what we see everyday.
“If we do things this way, we will suffer like this. If we do things that way, we will suffer like that.” It is this helplessness that gives way to anger, which should end in acceptance, if nothing can be done. Abrupt. Catastrophic. Mitigation of suffering will become very important, sooner rather than later.
I fully agree.
@@hascleavrahmbenyoseph7186 This is all good, except #3. The environment won’t get healthier. You’re negating the truth, and the topic of this video: we are deep into Overshoot. Your children will inherit a vastly different world than yours.
@@hascleavrahmbenyoseph7186 indeed it is never too late to try but try for what? Collapse means societal collapse it may not mean extinction. Those that remain need to adapt and be prepared for that adaptation.
So the effort we make can be towards that end. And who knows, those people may indeed survive in a different climate, if it happens to stabilise
Lorax Tribe, for me hospice care for the earth and midwifing the New Creation are the same. We have no control over ultimate outcomes and it sure looks like this is the end of Homo Colossus and Homo sapiens. It looks like the end of life on earth - in any form that we know. But just as we are all going to die, how we live now in the predicament is all we have left. By centering on loving kindness for all Creation we can live well within this terrible predicament. I am a mystic. I believe Love/Life makes a way for Love and Life and that we can choose to participate in this simply by choosing to love as best as we can here and now. Reducing harms and reducing suffering as best as we can - surely these are a part of loving kindness. I agree with you!
@@garyhoover9750 yes, thank you and I agree, I think that we are just preparing for a different outcome than some others- we prepare for Collapse. Compassion for our fellows, service to our Earth and humanity are necessary. Some others may build the New World, and what a world that could be.
The answer to the question at 7:15 is 440. Time to switch to hopanyl. It’s much stronger and longer lasting than hopium. I’ve completely switched to hopanyl and given up on hopium.
Too damn cute! Yes, I've read Guy on that one, too.
I’m a fan of hopine
I haven't seen it quoted in texts, but I think that denial is probably rooted in the survival instinct of prey summoning up courage when faced with a deadly predator - this lion may be after my blood but I still have a chance if I try .. .. (& sometimes the prey does surmount seemingly impossible odds)
I agree. Thanks for this comment, Mike!
Interesting! Never thought about it that way. Would it be associated with the fight/flight/freeze instinct then? 🤔
@@noahbrown4388 There are two more: fight, flight, freeze, facade, and fawn. All five are on display in U.S. national politics.
@@jdstillwater7C "fight, flight, freeze, facade, fawn" Oh wow, that's intriguing! Any sources along those lines that you would share? Just thinking about it, it seems to me that the last two would be primarily mammalian traits.
@@noahbrown4388 Search for those five terms together and you'll find many sources for all but "facade." I'm not sure where I got that one, but it seems like it fits, and is different from the others. Most of the hits for the other four are related to healing intergenerational trauma and dysfunction.
Thanks, Michael. You have done some excellent work. I actually think it is hopium to believe society as a whole will do anything to mitigate the severity of what is coming. I do not want to sound "negative", but these people will never change. They are literally insane. And the funny thing is that they think people like us are insane.
Why mitigate? The more quick and severe the collapse, the faster and better the rebound
@@Bookhermit Rebound? Not likely. ua-cam.com/video/Y-1fv-5_ldM/v-deo.html
@@thegreatstory Yes, Michael. His attitude is similar to those who are deaf to the truth. The mass man has heard nothing the last 50+ years. Today, we will produce the most CO2 emissions in a 24 hour period than ever before. Tomorrow we will break that record. Humankind is literally like a train speeding towards a cliff at full speed and saying "I do not care" which is an exact quote hundreds of people have said to me throughout my lifetime when I tell them what is actually happening . Needless to say, it has been difficult for me to like the normal human. But they will get what they deserve. Sadly, we will go down with the ship of fools...
Agreed.
@@abdulrockman1 I'm not sure that 'I don't care about the situation you're talking about' was what they meant to express when they used those words? Most probably just meant "please stop, it's awkward and I can't be associated with people talking like you and in general I don't want to think about stuff like that". Which is not the same as 'I belive you are right and I don't care', lol. Even worse, though!!
If only people would say that they're aware what's happening but they choose to block it out and let what happens happen. Would be better.
A solid refresher!
Thanks.
Thank you dear Michael! Excellent explanation 🙏💕
I prepared a graph like the one at 25:00, for a presentation at university. They didn't find it suitable to share with young audience 🤦🏼♀️
Beril, I'd love to see your graph. Please email it to me. Love, ~ M
Jiddu Krishnamurti and David bohm and Alan watts have helped me accept things as they are . It is helpless but I have no fear of death for a long time, thanks to these guys. we need to be pure to see clearly. Pure means clear. And accept our fate. the earth will hopefully heal after collapse and maybe there will be beings on this planet that have less of our weaknesses and more of our strengths. But it will probably not be us, out of destruction something new can be born. Maybe we are meant to destroy our selves for the next stage of the earth what that stage will be idk.
Yup.
The fun part is looking at HOW things can collapse, and what kind of life to expect after
After? See here: ua-cam.com/video/Y-1fv-5_ldM/v-deo.html
@@thegreatstory Yes, AFTER. No human extinction likely for a LONG time. Mass death and system collapse, sure. But I have looked over all sane information carefully and do NOT expect uninhabitable conditions on a planetary scale.
@@Bookhermit I love your faith...even though I don't hold it.
@@thegreatstory It's my opinion, of course, but I am quite well educated in both general science and mathematics, and have been keeping an eye on the situation for well over 40 years. Truthfully, I am more worried about TOO MANY humans surviving this initial collapse, which would lead directly into another, more severe, collapse within a century or two.
Was walking around listening & watching while doing various little things. Had to stop at the reveal after “If we all”, and bend over laughing. Have been watching so many “Royal We” hopium videos from beloved filmmaker Sir David Attenborough. Always stop at the “We can fix this” moment, and ask myself if he actually heard the list of challenges he had just read to me. Only rational explanation: The British sense of irony; ie, conveying meaning by saying the opposite.
Hi, your comment gets cut after "and ask myself if he actually heard the list of.."
Would you mind repeating your further thought? Curious:)
@@SLefd ask myself if he actually heard the list of (overwhelming) challenges he had just read to me. Maybe British irony?
Ganja helps ... To clear paranoia and hopium type b.s.
Agreed!
FYI: Sid Smith has begun a series on his YT channel, "How to enjoy the end of the world" or HTETEOTW
Yes, I know. I spoke with Sid a few days ago on the phone about it. He (and this new HTETEOTW series) is great!
I love your work. Thank you! ❤️
I love your comments. Thank you! :-) (I don't know how to make a heart :-)
Michael, you are certainly to be commended for the amazing energy you have used for this cause over recent years. It MUST be discouraging that STILL people don't wake up and, more importantly, change their lives. You must ask yourself "WHAT ELSE can I do?" Well, I hope you keep it up. May I suggest that you turn your attention and that of those whose attention you can get to the power of narrative fiction. Not more documentaries or exposition, and no more dystopias, but hopeful fiction. Fiction that can give people a new dream. There was a host of such work in the 1910's through the 1940's in the USA accompanying the "Back to the Land" movements. See Dona Brown's book, "Back to the Land". None of it, though, was lastingly influential like, say, "Swiss Family Robinson".
It is so hard to accept as a mother of a 4yo. I can not wrap my mind around it how to raise and educate him about these matters if i don´t maintain hope. And still i have already come to the same conclusions again and again, but full accepatnace is defineltly not here yet. It is really really hard to accept my son´s and the younger generation´s future. I don´t know how.
My heart is with you! (I'm living two blocks from my 2-year-old granddaughter.) Good support here: postdoom.com/discussions/ Join us!
yes, it is exceedingly hard to accept the unacceptable, ie the destruction of ALL life, I simply cannot accept all the pain and suffering inflicted by humanity upon all non human animals and life forms, and it goes on unabated on a daily basis, and personally, I think it's right not to accept it. It's like saying I accept the cruelty inflicted by humanity.
Poor child won't live very long.
I love children. They are so full of hope and optimism and wonder. I've always wanted my own. But I'm glad now I was able to avoid producing any.
Thank you for confirming there’s no point to sticking around anymore.
That depends on life's circumstances, of course. Speaking personally, I am hugely motivated to live life fully and love the life I live (and be the biggest blessing to others that can) for as long as I can. But, yes, I also have an exit strategy.
I would add to Moral Imperatives. Vasectomy before you breed more doomed planet nibblers.
Nope. I fully disagree. We're going down WAY too quickly for that to make any difference whatsoever.
@@thegreatstory Yes quite likely, I'm talking about from now till lights out. I see way to many baby strollers being pushed around.
The idea that anyone can categorically know the outcome of a complex adaptive system is ludicrous. It's unknowable. Same goes for what God wants. Any entity that has quantum physics is its play thing is unknowable. The moment we 'know' what that entity thinks it would break our minds 🦋
What the future looks like is Ukraine, but more brutal and localised imho, but again who can know?
I think you may enjoy my most in-depth and complete video: "Ten Inevitables": ua-cam.com/video/Y-1fv-5_ldM/v-deo.html
Dear Michael Dowd, how do you reconcile predictions made by John Michael Greer, and more dire predictions, such as human extinction? Have you discussed this previously?
First, I love JMG!! I've audio recorded nine of his books and some 400 of his Archdruid Report posts, over 8 years. See here: thegreatstory.org/sustainability-audios.html#greer and here (scroll down; several playlists): soundcloud.com/michael-dowd-grace-limits/sets Still, what John Michael doesn't get, IMHO, is ABRUPT climate mayhem (10,000 years of climate change in half a human lifetime). Nor does he get the aerosol masking effect (global dimming), nor the strong likelihood of dozens (or more) nuclear meltdowns. I'm the official audiobook narrator of Dark Age America, which is still one of my favorite books: www.amazon.com/Dark-Age-America-audiobook/dp/B06WP82QDR/ Still, I think it is WAY more likely that there will be few mammals or vertebrates (and few, if any humans) by 2050.
Did someone mention deadly hydrogen sulfide release from ocean estuaries and swamps?
I'd like to print the Moral Imperatives so I can look at the list daily but couldn't make my puny laptop do it. Is my only option is to keep the screen up and write them down with my stroke-impaired hand?
Send me an email: MichaelBDowd(AT)GEEMALE(DHAT)COM - and I will reply with the image of the slide. Otherwise, here they are in text form:
Moral Imperatives: Hopium (the civil religion of progress) blinds us
from acknowledging the urgency for…
1. Investing time, energy, and resources in all things regenerative.
2. Supporting Indigenous resistance, values, and life-ways.
3. Sequestering human-made toxins that nature cannot undo.
4. Safely dismantling the relics of infrastructure no longer in use.
5. Rewilding rivers and other animal migration pathways.
6. Assisting plants (especially trees) in migrating poleward
That means I wake up every day with Hopium. By night time I get it again. Ha. Ha.
Not sure what you mean, but I appreciate your humor.
@@thegreatstory I feel hope to move forward; I should 'hope and try' to create solutions to make it as easy as possible for the species that may make it after we are gone
Super! Tnx
Welcome 😊
Why have my recommendations for Guy McPherson’s NATURE BATS LAST UA-cam channel thrice been removed from these comments?
Must be some AI bot or something, because it's not me. I love Guy McPherson and, in fact, will be recording an uploading a new video, "Dowd on McPherson" in the next few days.
If you include links in your comment, UA-cam will automatically delete. Also certain words or phrases can cause automatic deleting. I did want to make a quip that YT were finally targeting some misinformation. I am decidedly not a fan of Guy after he came to my country and lied on national TV, scaring the crap out of everyone with predictions that are only 3 years away from being proven completely false
"Forests precede civilisations and deserts follow civilisations."
I can think of an exception to this. That is the Mayan civilisation of Central America who collapsed and left forests in their wake to this day. What is the explanation for this?
Nature reclaimed abandoned human habitation
I am typically a Debbie Downer doom and gloomer. But doesn't the MEER reflectivity proposal provide a legit glimmer of hope? Even Guy McPherson says it might be feasible and he's been predicting near term human extinction for the last 15 years.
Hey I put two old big mirrors that were in a closet out on side of house to reflect sun back up and onto newly planted trees; that's something!
@@meidaslisa It's a start! Now we just have to multiply that effort by several million and we'll be on to something.
No, Boudica X, MEER doesn't provide any hope and Guy is wrong on this one. I recommend carefully reading this critique of MEER from a close colleague, Erik Michaels: problemspredicamentsandtechnology.blogspot.com/2021/06/more-bright-green-lies.html Indeed, I recommend ALL of Erik's posts: problemspredicamentsandtechnology.blogspot.com/2020/12/welcome-to-problems-predicaments-and.html AUDIOS: soundcloud.com/michael-dowd-grace-limits/sets/erik-michaels-problems-predicaments-and-technology
@@thegreatstory So your telling me there's a chance.
@@Boudica234 No, that's not what I'm saying at all. There are NO technological means by which overshoot is not exacerbated. Erik Michael's posts are, in my experience, helpful for understanding reality. Not for giving hope. I see no chance for anything that requires energy and mined materials. I see MEER, as big-hearted and brilliant as Dr. Ye Tao is, as being but mere (pun intended) distraction.
If extinction is happening, then there is no "making things worse". What could possibly be worse than facing our own extinction? And these 3 remain...Faith, Hope and Love. Depends what you put your Hope in. Hope is a spiritual Reality and Spirit is Hope well placed. My point...hope that abrupt exponential climate change will not make humanity extinct is indeed false hope and is preventing humanity from focusing on the things we might be able to do...like save some species. My Hope is still alive and is placed only in the Supreme Being. Earth and Life will prevail even if humans do not.
Sorry, I could not DISagree with you more! I invite you to reject this anthropocentric viewpoint you just gave voice to. If we allow thousands of plants and trees to needlessly go extinct (because we don't assist them in migrating poleward) that is certainly worse than if we can help some of these creatures who have existed for tens of millions of years to continue into the future. The same with nuclear meltdowns. 440 nuclear meltdowns is way fucking worse than 40 nuclear meltdowns for damn near every species on Earth. Can you see how shifting away from a human-centered perspective of "good" or "bad" makes deep moral sense? ALSO, IMPORTANTLY, I invite you to update your view and experience of God! See here: ua-cam.com/video/cZohskqziE8/v-deo.html and longer video here: ua-cam.com/video/DEDvM8Agmw4/v-deo.html
39:43 thats why i respect you VERY much, i guess.
Thanks, again, Jan!
I agree with your conclusions Michael, except that I would add that we are in runaway greenhouse(with temperatures likely to reach 60c or more above than normal) and that within a decade there will be biological annihilation, no matter what we do. Also, it takes 60 years to decommission a nuclear reactor, and even decommissioning all of them immediately, would mean that when they are abandoned in 10 years, the cooling ponds will dry up and the fuel rods will ignite, because they wont have cooled enough to be encased in concrete. It will be only slightly less of nuclear disaster. Everything will die of extreme overheating and plastic poisoning anyway. Of course none of these reactors will be decommissioned and no government on earth is likely to admit that we are doomed. You dont seem to realize that humans are an anti-natural, toxic, unsustainable, omnicidal species, but also a corrupt, insane, uncooperative and uncontrolable species. And irredeemable of course. Even the scientists wont admit that we doomed, with the exception of Guy Macpherson, who has been blacklisted and banned from government employment. Michael, this is an impressive presentation, you are very dedicated, but it will have no effect on the runaway train of omnicidal industrial civilization. The only thing that could change the blind, omnicidal trajectory of the human amoeba, would be an alien invasion and takeover of the planet. Highly advanced aliens could simply take away all of our nuclear technology and place it on uranus. They could immediately cull our massive overpopulation down to a number that is the actual carrying capacity of the earth, one million. The Aliens could easily remove a trillion tons of greenhouse gasses from our atmosphere and a trillion tons of carbolic acid from the oceans. It would be simple for high tech aliens to clean up our macro, micro and nano plastic and our mountains of toxic trash and even repair our badly damaged ozone layer. Humans cant do anything except to make matters worse. And that is what they are doing, and what they will continue to do right up until the collapse of everything. To imagine any other outcome is to be in denial and to be smoking hopium.
How could you possibly think I believed that this presentation - or, for that matter ANYTHING I say or do, or anything anyone says or does - will slow the "nunaway omnicidal train of industrial civilization"? Your idea of highly advanced aliens is, in my estimation, another example of super high quality hopium. Even that idea of "advanced" is delusional. If I may be so arrogant, I see your consistent lack of an ecological understanding of reality revealed in many of the comments you make. (Make no mistake, I truly do appreciate that you've watched so much of my stuff and commented thoughtfully on so many as well!). Still, will you ever read Catton?? 🙂It's okay if you don't. We're just both having fun, I get it.
What are people's thoughts on building Thorium reactors? China appears to be serious about it.
My view is that Thorium reactors is just more hopium. Technology cannot solve the predicament technology got us in in the first place. Remember: our biggest problem is NOT climate, it's ecological overshoot.
@@thegreatstory Population overshoot. Too many humans acting as humans always will
Damned if we do and damned if we don't solve "climate change caused by overshoot"? I vote do solve the problem. We tend to believe that our behavior towards the environment
is driven by two motives. We need sustenance, and we desire to profit. It appears as though there are two motivations because the dictionary definition of "profit" is incorrect.
The definition of profit fails to state that sustenance is our only actual life giving "gain", and also fails to state that our only source of sustenance is the environment.
We solve overshoot by 1.) correcting the dictionary definition of profit and 2.) creating a "Global Economic Model" that fits well with the new dictionary definition of profit.
This Definition makes protecting the environment our first priority: "Profit = our gratefulness and loving care for our Environment, and for the sustenance that it provides to all of us".
The central part of the new GEM should be the EPA. EPA members will vote on the best 'Profit' definition that states sustenance is our only actual 'gain'
without which we can't live, and states that the environment is our only source of sustenance.
As the central hub of the new GEM, EPA members will establish, by vote, all directives related to both, the GEM and climate rescue strategies.
Here are just some rough ideas of what the EPA directives might be:
1.) Population: Initially we need a one child per family directive.
2.) In place of income, jobs would have an 'equivalency rating'. Some jobs are still more important and more difficult than others.
3.) All equivalency ratings will increase at the same time if and when the environment becomes healthier. The lowest EquivRate must still be livable.
4.) Everyone who can work will be able, and required, to get jobs. No more expenses, so no more cutting jobs to reduce expenses; thus, virtually no more homelessness.
5.) No manufacturing of useless and unnecessary products. All products will be scrutinized by various rating methods.
6.) Whenever possible products should last a lifetime and or be easily upgradable, so we don't buy the same products repeatedly.
7.) EPA will direct "Work Force Flow". Example: Shoe manufacturer will produce 100yearLife shoes for 3 years, then reduce output to about 1/10 of full capacity, and
the majority of shoe employees will be shifted to other work assignments by the EPA. Employees still keep their EquivRate in-between jobs.
I know that this is just a rough outline of what we must do, but it's a good starting point.
This is our Ark. Please help build it! Questions, suggestions and any comments for or against this idea will be very deeply appreciated. Thank you!
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Commenter helped me to find another EPA directive, when he mentioned he used to like dumpster diving.
8.) All recyclable items will be recycled. All stores like wal-Mart Target etc. will carry both recycled and new products. Recycled costs far fewer EquivRate credits.
Items that can't be recycled as is will be reprocessed for other purposes. Virtually nothing gets thrown away.
Thanks friend! 👍👍
Profit causes a side effect. It drives us to extremes of behavior. Technological changes are definitely sorely needed, but the money hungry business world is
slanted towards extremism, due to their "profit" motive. They will turn every good idea into a nightmare when, for example, they over produce solar cars and
homes, solar panel covered deserts, etc. Switching technologies as our next step is a horrible idea that will only cause much more damage to the environment.
That would be the last nail in our collective coffin.
9.) Teach us all, especially students, how to manage the new global economic model.
Will we even last another decade?
Yes.
Some remnant, possibly. But many billions of humans will likely perish this decade.
Highly improbable.
Nope.
@@Aerosol_Masking Only if Biden start mumbling about Putin stealing his precious bodily fluids.
Good work The world has a disease and it’s called humans-Nietzche
Agreed!
Not one mention of overpopulation!
@@KB-os6lh Loss of habitat includes, by definition, overpopulation which causes such loss of habitat as well as the usual climate change, etc. Dowd mentioned that several times.
@@KB-os6lh I'll mention overpopulation. see future EPA directive (1) below. The problem with "Profit = income - expenses" is that the entire environment
is on the expense part of the equation, and that includes us. Businesses want to eliminate expenses; thus, "Profit = income - expenses" is a recipe for the
destruction of the environment and all life on earth. We need a new "Global Economic Model" GEM that supports a new definition of profit. How about:
"Profit = our gratefulness and loving care for our Environment, and for the sustenance that it provides to all of us." Clearly, this definition of profit does require a new GEM.
Please bear in mind that this definition of profit does away with expenses. In nature's economy we have already been paid in full, in advance. Our job in nature is
to acquire sustenance without going into Overshoot.
The central part of the new Global Economic Model should be the EPA. EPA members will vote on the best 'Profit' definition that states sustenance
is our only actual 'gain' without which we can't live, and states that the environment is our only source of sustenance.
As the central hub of the new GEM, EPA members will establish, by vote, all directives related to both, the GEM and climate rescue strategies.
Here are just some rough ideas of what the EPA directives might be:
1.) Population: Initially we need a one child per family directive.
2.) In place of income, jobs would have an 'equivalency rating'. Some jobs are still more important and more difficult than others.
3.) All equivalency ratings will increase at the same time if and when the environment becomes healthier. The lowest EquivRate must still be livable.
4.) Everyone who can work will be able, and required, to get jobs. No more expenses, so no more cutting jobs to reduce expenses; thus, virtually no more homelessness.
5.) No manufacturing of useless and unnecessary products. All products will be scrutinized by various rating methods.
6.) Whenever possible products should last a lifetime and or be easily upgradable, so we don't buy the same products repeatedly.
7.) EPA will direct "Work Force Flow". Example: Shoe manufacturer will produce 100yearLife shoes for 3 years, then reduce output to about 1/10 of full capacity, and
the majority of shoe employees will be shifted to other work assignments by the EPA. Employees still keep their EquivRate in-between jobs.
8.) All recyclable items will be recycled. All stores like wal-Mart Target etc. will carry both recycled and new products. Recycled costs far fewer EquivRate credits.
Items that can't be recycled as is will be reprocessed for other purposes. Virtually nothing gets thrown away.
I know that this is just a rough outline of what we must do, but it's a good starting point.
P.S. The EquivRate would be a 'package' that includes all of our needs: food, shelter, education, health care, etcetera. The EquivRate wouldn't be transferable as commerce.
This is our Ark. Please help build it! Questions, suggestions and any comments for or against this idea will be very deeply appreciated. Thank you!
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is this a repost?
No, see here: postdoom.com/resources/
TEOTWAWKI
Indeed.
Interesting, but I reject the impotence of our possible solutions. Past and future trajectories have followed the natural path of boom and bust that happens in any natural system. Understanding this, it is possible to change our unmanaged and chaotic ways to a managed unnatural system that is designed to be sustainable.
Wow, sounds like some wickedly powerful stuff you're smoking...please pass the hopium pipe around so others can take a hit!! But whatever you do, do NOT read or watch the following (it will ruin your high) ...
(1) "Climate Change and the Mitigation Myth" - by Mark Brimblecombe: markbrimblecombeblog.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/climate-change-and-the-mitigation-myth/
(2) "Overshoot: Where We Stand Now": (guest post I wrote for Dave Pollard's blog, "How to Save the World": howtosavetheworld.ca/2021/09/21/overshoot-where-we-stand-now-guest-post-by-michael-dowd/
(3) "Time's Up: It's the End of the World, and We Know It" - Salt Lake City Weekly cover article - by Jim Catano: www.cityweekly.net/utah/times-up/Content?oid=17298723
(4) "Climate Change is Accelerating": - Colorado Boulevard.net: www.coloradoboulevard.net/climate-change-is-accelerating/
(5) Finally, this 8-min clip from HBO's "The Newsroom" (EPA Segments) is a classic (the most accurate portrayal on American TV of what most climate scientists know, but never say): www.dropbox.com/s/orq3tops40gftzo/The%20Newsroom%20%202013%20Environmental%20Protection%20Agency%20report%28EPA%29%3A%20Richard%20Westbrook%20scenes_1920x1080_MOV.mov?dl=0
You do understand there is zero evidence given here? This video is a list of “sacred doomer” quotes. That is all.
You should try a talk with a scientist like Dennis Meadows or James Lovelock if he’s still with us…
You are ecologically uninformed. See: (1) Overshoot: Where We Stand Now - guest post written by me for Dave Pollard's blog: howtosavetheworld.ca/2021/09/21/overshoot-where-we-stand-now-guest-post-by-michael-dowd/ (2) Time's Up: It's the End of the World, and We Know It - Salt Lake City Weekly cover article - by Jim Catano (features me and several colleagues): www.cityweekly.net/utah/times-up/Content?oid=17298723