Here's my theory: Montreal was working on Origins at the same time Quebec was working on Odyssey. The two weren't communicating and because of that both teams essentially made origin stories that contradict each other. This would make sense except for the fact that Quebec messed up things other than establishments in Origins. Short version: Quebec should never be allowed to make another Assassin's Creed game.
Proves a point you made earlier: AC needs Lore team. Two games with two different directors, the one contradicting the other...while contradicting the older games in the franchise. Quite the mess! Hope AC Legion will be more true to the established lore. For now, I will pass on Oddyssey
@@h3nder I believe the overall story is, at least the book Ubi released. If follows their own canon choices / main character, leaving the players to make their own choices in game. (Prefered a set character with less choices and more depth myself, though)
@@TheAquarius87 Yes, the events are cannon, but I am not so sure about the DLC. Plus, they'll probably de-canonize it later. I have yet to play Odyssey as I was going through older games first since I haven't played them since BF came out, and after watching all the reviews I'll skip both this and the next one. I hope they get away with all the choice and cannon breaking bs, honestly Origins is such a good game that they can build the gameplay of that and sell it for next 10 years.
@@h3nder Yeah Origins was quite amazing. I chose to buy the Ezio collection over Odyssey and I'm still not regretting it! (Though nostaglia for Ezio is a major factor for me)
1) Darius was a missed opportunity to make him interesting. 2) Neema/Natakas are boring, uncharismatic characters with a serious lack of development for someone with such importance for the story. 3) The story is lame and has nothing of original value. 4) Facial animations are terrible and just seems to be getting worse. 5) The voice acting is very toned down and bland and the emotion in most of the lines is non-existent. 6) Gameplay is recycled and there is nothing new to really experience. New abilities barely change shit and most of the quests are basically run here, collect this, kill that. Fucking boring shit. 7) The rpg element has been executed poorly because "player choice" will always end with the same outcome. The dialogue options are meaningless as it only changes your characters attitude at that time and never has a greater effect. 8) The story literally makes no sense as mentioned in this video.
1) I don't see how Darius is uninteresting. Yes, he could have been explored in more depth, but you can say that about any character in supporting character. What's important is that he had an identifiable personality and character. Naturally, he's reserved and not overly talkative. He's your typical silent but deadly badass character. But there's some depth there because that silence has a purpose. He's had to run for his entire life, never being able to ease his mind. He's therefore defined by his need to protect what small part of a life and of a family that he still has left: his daughter. Is it wholly original or complex? No, but he has a character and it works within the narrative. 2) Yeah. I think her/his character is fine, they're just really underdeveloped. They're relationship with Alexios/Kassandra is also flat and unearned. However, Michael Antonakos' performance is really affective and it almost makes up for the lack of chemistry between him and Neema. I haven't played with Kassandra so I don't know if the same can be said for Melissanthi. 3) How? 4) I disagree. 5) I couldn't disagree more. 6) I agree. 7) I agree. 8) How?
At this point, the best course of action is to consider the entire AC Odyssey story as a separate timeline. The last actual lore contributing game was Origins. We all have to accept this. It's the only way to avoid complete insanity.
If you separate Odyssey from the AC universe, it's actually a really fun and enjoyable game and the story is pretty good. But as an AC universe game, it's disrespectfully ignorant.
I can get behind the novelisation of Odyssey to be in the same timeline as Origins. But yeah what you've mentioned is probably the best course of action with the game
@Jade Crawford there definitely were assassins (note the lower case 'a') before Bayek and throughout history. The point is that Origins showed the origin of the Leap of Faith as being something personal to Bayek which he later taught other Hidden Ones; there was a lot of emotional weight behind that and it was well done. This DLC basically spits in the face of that by showing it to be a regular practice of people like Darius; someone whom even the later Assassins (upper case A) would idolise but existed long before Bayek. What was the point of Bayek's story if you can say that all that has been done by other people in the past? Realistically it may have happened, but it's just bad storytelling.
If the dlc was actually about Darius and you got to play as him in Persia and see him earn his name as the murderer of Xerxes, see him crate the hidden blade and see Darius and amorges’ relationship get better and then slowly worsen. You’ll be able to explore Persia as Darius and have more stealth weaponry such as throwing knives, smoke bombs, sleep darts, berserk darts and you’ll be able leave Persia at anytime and go back to Greece as Alexios/ Kassandra and continue helping Darius escape Greece and kill the order in Greece. No Neema no Elpidios just Darius and The eagle bearer learning from each other and coming to terms that they are both different as Alexios prefers being loud with his antics while Darius prefers discretion
They should've just put Darius into the base game. The Eagle Bearer could meet him relatively early on in the story (say after dealing with the wolf of sparta) and he could become a mentor for the eagle bearer. Maybe he's hiding in Kosmos territory because it's mostly out of the orders range but decides to help the protaganist due to realizing that they are just as effed up as the order (maybe he didn't even know about the cult, only that the order wasn't in greece for some reason). And voila the issues with this and the main story (lacking connection, hidden blades) would be fixed.
Well she killed cleopatra and Caesar, so bayek may have started the hidden ones but aya was more committed and focused on it, bayek only wanted revenge on his sun but aya was already an assassin
Ubisoft is like this hypocritical society. They could've just made Aya the protagonist and switched roles. They didn't. So we just can't connect with her because we're so invested in Bayek. They just want to look "woke". Then came Odyssey. They promoted the game around alexios. And then said the female was canon. Yeah then why were you so scared of saying that from the start. I honestly believe sales wouldn't have been affected by promoting Kassandra. They should've stuck with one protagonist. Most people chose alexios because 1.Most gamers are male and given the choice most of them would choose their avatar to be male 2. They made it look like he was the better character.
@Super JLK yeah. Absolutely. It should be about experiencing memories. About Kassandra, the issue for me was how no character in the game remarks that a woman is a mercenary in the time period. Not surprising since they basically changed nothing for either character's story. When it comes down to it, Altair as the descendant instead of Aya would've made a lot more sense. He even looks like Darius as he ages. More importantly he's the most important figure for all assassins after him.
A decade ago, when Ubisoft made a good game, they made sequels until the story was finished and couldn't be continued(AC2-AC Embers). Now it's just "let's just give this game the incorrect name, tricking people into thinking it's good so we get money, and if it works, do it again"
It would’ve made much more sense & been a much better dlc had Darius been written correctly & if he was related to Bayek not Aya. That way that tradition of the Leap of Faith would have still been about confronting your fears & it would’ve remained consistent with what was shown in Origins.
PrinceRPG exactly, if we the fans were to decide what the dlc would be then it would be a much different story. Plus the people at Ubisoft should’ve realised it made no sense to have Aya be the descendant. They were just pushing a narrative & throwing logic as well as the respect of their fans out the window.
It would've made even more sense if they ended up with Altair. He's basically the GOAT and Mentor for the assassins in the modern day. Perhaps the most important assassin ever. He actually learned using pieces of Eden, even performed feats like creating duplicates like Kassandra without getting his mind corrupted and with no visible physical toll. He guided Ezio and Desmond by storing his memory. The guy even looked like Darius in old age.
Literally feel your rage when Neema/Natakas throws the heirloom into the sea. I was just thinking “whoever wrote this story deserves death by the order of the ancients” I’ll slightly defend when Gergis says “Everything is permitted”. Both Darius/Artabanus and Amorges held the same ideology up until a certain point. So it’s safe(ish) to say that this is where you say Templar/Assassin ideology diverge. Again, Ubisoft could’ve avoided this furore by leaving that bit out anyways. Neema/Natakas are wasted characters. Even Darius/Artabanus is and Ubisoft should’ve left the “mystery” about him alone.
Well technically her Animus does make up the parts that it can't retrieve from DNA, so this is what I've been holding as true, only certain aspects of odyssey are cannon, but most of it is made up by Layla's Animus
If Ubisoft didn’t hate Bayek so much him being from the bloodline would explain Senu and a lot of of the things he could do. Also why in the fuck are you still Alexios. Kassandra’s voice is better
For some reason, whenever I hear about Darius , I remember something Altair wrote in the Codex. It was about how the ideologies of the Assassins and Templars may have been founded repeatedly several times throughout history. I think that might be the case
Personally I loved it, despite its flaws and consistency in the lore/plot it did manage to set up the timeline between Odyssey and Origins I guess... I also respect and understand people who did not like it because people are entitled to their own thoughts and preferences. The "You Love Some, You Hate Some" way of thinking.
For myself, I am fine with the game, as I don't completely hate it. I do enjoy the gameplay, though it does take me a while to get the assassination kills just right. I like the setting and having the ship with ship battles (which does reminds me a bit of Assassin's Creed 4). But everything else, I can either take it or leave it.
This game and DLC annoy me more than should be possible for Assassin’s Creed this game isn’t canon to me in the same way the movie was, what would have been better if Bayek was the descendant it would explain how the leap of faith was passed down through his family at least, how’d you have written Odyssey and Legacy of the First Blade
The episodes got worse from start to finish. The Huntsman was the most compelling villain in the entire game to me and I enjoyed episode one the most. But the voice acting, timing and animations during cutscenes is bad.
I partially agree. First episode was very good too. Second was bad. Third was my favorite tho. And cut them some slack on animations. It’s about the game, not the animation. If u want animation, watch a movie
@@alex-hg2vo why would I cut them slack? Ubisoft is one of the biggest AAA publishers, they have the money and resources they just prefer to get stuff out quick at a lower quality to continually make money.
I don't understand why people complaining technically this is part of the lore because the Bloodlines came from so they're just explaining and how it was formed I mean many people don't even know how the hell the Assassin's Creed started and tell Origins so everything that's happening up to this point is technically Canon
I miss the Ezio days. I remember when AC2 was released and everyone was blown away by how much of an improvement it was from the first game, which was awesome when it released in it of itself. Such a classic. There's nothing like those days anymore.
I’ve genuinely enjoyed assassins creed odyssey and the legacy of the first blade as a whole. I don’t mind if things don’t add with the rest of the lore because in the end it’s just a game, enjoy it for what it is. Odyssey has been so much fun to play and I felt genuine anger and sadness throughout the legacy of the first blade. I even genuinely cried at the end of the DLC because I really feel for Alexios. Having to go through so much to get your child back only to let them go to keep them safe. I will still defend this game and its story and even if it has issues or the story has moments where it doesn’t fit with the rest of the lore I still think it’s a fantastic game and Ubisoft has the right to do what they want with the story whether it all fits together or not. It’s just a game, enjoy it for what it is :)
@@hamaguitar Man... They are really taking their time with the next AC game. I mean the last ac game was Origins in 2017 and next one I have heard is going to be in 2020. I think this is the first time I have seen them take 3 years to release an ac game.
@@norseca542 well i didn't believe it thats why i asked him but this comunity is full of dumb people that its not that clear if a person is sarcastic regarding that topic
Now that i see that, and you mentioned the Tombs in Italy...how come Darius was mentioned in a Assassins Tomb as an Legendary Assassisn , but the Order of Assassins was not founded then?
LOL only they have Isu genes which was by accident from juno's experiment. This isu blood line shit was pulled out of their asses so the spartan twins could have super powers. No super powers, just eagle vision and enhanced reflexes.
I think with the whole "All Things Are Permitted" line, he was meaning that the ends justify the means for the Order and it would have probably worked better had he said something different. But then they tried to make a reference and it broke the lore. As for the leap of faith, its inferred that it was a Medjay tradition that only they knew how to perform correctly. So if that tradition was initially mastered by Darius and passed through the generations, it could have been passed down through to Bayek as a Medjay tradition that was adopted as a symbol of the Hidden Ones
i totally agree with justifications like this. I think the old AC purists will find ways to hate on anything added to these games that fondle with the ways they think the lore is being changed, and aren't being open minded enough to see what the story is trying to say. Also I think the scene when they show the pyramids and stuff being built in egypt is totally fine too, I just chalk it up to the fact that the history books have it all wrong, just like Warren Vidic says in AC1. I think this cutscene is trying to portray AC's version of how and when the pyramids were built, not what is historically accurate.
I used to love assassin's creed 2, brotherhood, revelations, ac 4 and even 3 but odyssey is an absolute joke. I've played episodes 1-2 and it's just awful dlc, It's a massive misstep.
I don’t know if anyone has had this same problem but while beginning episode 3 of the dlc my Alexios began speaking in Kassandras voice and Darius began addressing me as Kassandra when the subtitles said Alexios it is fucking astounding how bad these glitches are
@@devilgames2217 the combat looks amazing and there are a lot of cities and tombs for parkor also the dialog system has been toned down and actually has consiquences stealth looks fine sociall stealth is back and the assassins creed templar conflict is there..... to be fair i didnt expect them to change a lot of things (like engine) so i wasnt dissapointed because they normally do 3 games on 1 engine .....im sure the next game is gonna be on a new engine but with this current game im satisfied with what they are doing....also the creator of the game is the people behind origins black flag and revelations
I think the leap of faith can be explained that Darius new he couldn't protect the legacy on his own and made a friend and taught him everything he knew so that there would always be someone looking out for the bloodline ,it could even explain why Bayek and Aya grew up together and fell in love because their families were always connected
I knew from the beginning that deviating from Origins and Bayek was a bad idea. They could've had a great thing going if they decided to continue rather than going back to a "more interesting time period". Odyssey could've been a great game on it's own but by just barely latching on to the Assassin's Creed brand it does both the game and the series as a whole a disservice. I mean Odyssey is better for the gameplay but the story is severely lacking unlike Origins. Here's hoping the next game can fix things and tie all this mess together. Oh, and BRING BACK BAYEK FFS!
I can't believe this ending. It's just too naive - the descendant of the person involved in fighting with order of the ancients and finding pieces of Eden is the girl responsible for founding assassins' brotherhood. COME ON
As a video game, I love odyssey. I love the characters and even if it isn’t executed well, I loved it as a separate game. But to include it in the assassin’s creed story is an absolute embarrassment to the franchise. In summery: Good game, must not be allowed in the franchise.
Sorry you didn't enjoy it. I personally loved it, I had no trouble with voice acting as I played with Kassandra. I didn't like Natakas, but I played through it anyways. I wasn't upset when he died, more-so glad I didn't have to waste time on him anymore. I'm not trying to just shove the point in there, but as a girl playing I have a better understanding of the relationship between mother and child than some players, perhaps including yourself. So I did feel the emotional connection in Episode 3, and it was a nice ending despite the plot holes and continuity errors. If there's anyway Ubisoft can fix this, I hope they do so. This game and DLC had so much potential - the biggest problem is that they didn't go linear. A linear story would've meant that we could reference to the Eagle Bearer's family in places in the DLC, such as talking to Myrinne rather than Barnabas. But alas, Ubisoft have fucked up AGAIN. Can they do anything right with this game that'll satisfy everyone and not just people like me (or just me).
@@violetrose415 I wish the 4 pillar fanbase showed respect towards people who like Odyssey instead of harassing and name calling anyone who says anything positive about it.
Girl, the voice acting was shit no matter who you play as. I hated the shoving of parenthood down our throats. I hated my character needlessly caring about Phoibie and I hated being forced to apparently care about Elphidios the crotch spawn.
Sarah Jenkins that’s why it should’ve been linear. Ubisoft say they give you choice, and yes there is a choice to be an asshole to Phoibe or to be kind. But no matter what you still cry over her death. While if it was linear, you would have been forced to like her because 1) it’s a linear game. You don’t GET a choice and 2) there’s no other option. I actually thought the voice acting was fine, great even, but that the animations didn’t give it justice. The mocap scenes are definitely the best scenes for quality as you really see the emotion on the characters, while in the animated scenes that use pre-programmed actions along with dialogue mess up timing. That’s why (LINEAR!) all mo-cap games such as Uncharted do as well as they have done. The effort is clearly shown in the games, which is another thing, Odyssey should’ve been given another year to allow that quality to be fully worked on and perfected. Parenthood is shoved down your neck in Origins, did you hate that too? I understand one’s a game and one’s a DLC but you have to understand that was the plot. The plot was the Eagle Bearer preserving their bloodline by carrying it on as past generations had, and so they did. But that caused a lot of trouble. THAT’S the plot, that’s not being shoved down your throat. I personally liked seeing the soft side of the Eagle Bearer and seeing them as a parent, but to each their own. Again, the illusion of choice is a major issue.
Honestly after having odyssey for a few months I really would just rather get origins instead because I’ve heard it’s a much more realized game plus the fact that it’s actually, you know, an ASSASSIN’S creed game, ac odyssey is just an average rpg but not an assassin’s creed game and I refuse to see it as such
14:19 Idk about you all but that textureless statuette and the apples show how much they cared about this game , in my experience with games whenever there's a zoom on unto things they usually make sure its the highest rendered shot with the crispiest textures , but nah they just said fuck it lets give the people a textureless zoomed in shot of an apple and of a statuette that doesnt look like anything ...
As far as the protagonist’s voice acting, Cassandra was voiced so much better. Her emotional moments were very impactful. Truth be told, this is my first AC game so all the canon stuff is lost on me. I can only judge this game on its own merits. Just finished my game+ play through of Legacy, and I really enjoyed it. I am a parent , so the ending was very emotionally charged for me. As Cassandra states she will always be there to watch over elpidos and his descendants, I was reminded that she does have the staff of Hermès which grants long life ( immortality) to its bearer. Could the modern day young girl (forgot her name) be of the bloodline, thus allowing Cassandra to pass the staff to her in order to continue the vigil over Atlantis and the powers and wonders contained within? That, for me at least was food for thought. But I do understand true followers of AC lore and canon do not feel this game has its place. I feel the same way about such franchises as Star Wars (Last Jedi) and Star Trek (both the JJ verse as well the Disco verse). At the end of the day I feel like I got my money’s worth of entertainment out of this game, 150+ hours of game play. Your review now has me wanting to give AC origins a roll out. We shall see. Thanks for your honest and insightful review. Cheers
So, I assume the familial connection between Darius and Aya is why she ends up with his blade, but if they'd made him related to Bayek instead, that could've explained the leap of faith. It could be explained as something Darius did, taught to Elpidios, who then taught it to his kids and so on and so on til Bayek. So I think that's a missed opportunity to rectify that but oh well
To be fair it would make sense that the templar use the "everything is permitted" as a maxime because they are an incarnation of it. it's a prevention for the assasin not a maxime.
I just got done with the DLC and this man literally summed up most everything that was wrong with this DLC in my opinion and this is why the great Fishy Yarpster is the go to for me when I need an actual well thought out opinion. This game literally doesn't seem like a main title for Assassin's Creed anymore. It feels like a rip off of Assassin's Creed with a bunch of shitty fan service that literally makes zero sense.
I liked the aya thing personally. Also we don’t really know the connection between Bayek’s father and Kassandras blood line. While yes the eagle jump scene is at very least really cheesy, I do think there is some wiggle room lure wise; especially considering bayek’s father told bayek he was suspicious about aya. Maybe he knew more about aya then we know.
Best parts were the flash backs of darius, this dlc was made for a Kassandra driven story, some of the scenes just didn’t work playing as Alexios for me
8:09 You said it yourself bayek founded the brotherhood not the hidden blade 🤔🤔. Just think that Darius is being hunted by a massive order that's why he hides in the shadows and strikes silently to kill some targets. He is on his own and he says that he does it mainly to protect his family and after for the shake of everyone and for the greater good 👌❤️.Also about the hidden blade as I said he is the one who made it not Your boy Bayek who you always try to defend (by the way I like Bayek as a character).
The only thing I didn’t really like was not getting Darius hidden blades at the end because he literally puts them in a box and looks like he going to give it to you
Yeah, the complaint about "brand identity for the sake of it" is pointless. Origins and Odyssey both are largely about making the point that the conflict between the Templars and Assassins has been going on since well before either organization actually existed as such (they both, historically, appear in the Middle Ages). Ezio confirms as much as early as Revelations (saying that they've been around in one form or another for thousands of years), and Altair hints at it in the codex in AC 2. Indeed, the order founded in Origins is not the "Assassin Brotherhood," but "The Hidden Ones." The villains of Origins are not "Templars," but "The Order of the Ancients." The Greek word "cosmos" (ie: the Cult of Kosmos, the villains of Odyssey) even means "order." The series has been quite clear from relatively early on this is not about a war between organizations, but ideologies. Why complain that Darius has the ideology of an Assassin? That's literally the point being made throughout the series! Altair is quite clear in the codex in AC 2 about two things: 1) you cannot destroy an ideology, even if you destroy all its adherents, someone will eventually come along and rediscover it, and 2) that is exactly what happened with the Assassins. The fact that the ideology, and thus the methodology that follows from it, predates the Hidden Ones (and thus the Assassins-as-such) is not a problem; quite the opposite, it's been established in the series' lore since years before Origins (and by extension, Odyssey).
Tbh I really like this dlc. Although I must say that this is no coming from an AC fan (which I am btw ) but from a fan of the greek culture. For me, in order to enjoy the story, you are going to have to imagine most of it. The voice acting of Kassandra wasn’t bad but the animations didn’t do it justice. So yeah , I actually enjoyed it
You know when we first heard of Odyssey at e3 i was unhappy with all the changes. I thought maybe i'll play it and i'll find that i like it. I can honestly say this is the first game where i've disliked it more and more as i play. Long time fans are being let down. I don't know the numbers on how many new people are buying these games. What is Ubisoft doing? I was excited about all the rumors regarding the next game in rome. Now i'm sad. Also. This has tainted my feelings on Origins. I love that game. I thought it lost some of the AC identity as well but it was a good step for the franchise and i over looked a few of its flaws. All this lore nonsense ruined it for me. Why are all these studios makings different games at the same time and not talking to each other at all about the story???????!
Honestly the ending would've made SOME sense if Aya was the main character of AC Origins as it was supposedly the original plan but Ubisoft shut that down because "Women don't sell"
8:45 I don’t think that’s a problem for Porto-templars, or even Templars to believe everything is permitted. In the first Assassin’s Creed, one of the Templar Altair killed actually said they believe in nothing; and looking back to their actions, the Templar have nearly no moral code to restrict their methods to achieve their goals.
"Everything is permitted"...considering Darius' influence on the order before he left who's to say there can't be overlaps. The Templars and Assassin's are repeatedly shown and represented as aiming for the same or similar goals while differing in the methods they use to achieve them. Pretty sure Ac3 and Unity leaned on that very fact
a wonderful game one of the best!!! and best dlc!! at last a game that shows us where it all started From this game started the legacy of assassin and the hidden blade from here they started the templars and from here it seems started the first civilization!! again congratulations for the game!!!! Stop crying because they do not make you the sake to create the Ubisoft a new game Where to say origin 2 or Ezio Auditore da Firenze 4 and Stop saying lying about the game.... you remind me of the little kids that do not make the sake their mother and dad they start crying and screaming
Actually, "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" is a maxim of original assassins. Those assassins existed during the Human-Isu war 75,000 years BC. Every version of the assassins since then, of which there have been many, has been an offshoot of those assassins. Kind of like a genetic memory from all our ancestors. It really is humanities creed. Likewise, there have been many versions of the assassins through history even long before Bayek or Darius. For example, Cain stole the apple of eden from Able. The first recorded templar assassination by an assassin. Legacy of the First Blade is very faithful lorewise. It's Fate of Atlantis that is a complete and utter mess that hopefully gets retconned as none of it is even possible.
I kind of like the idea that Kassandra and Aya are related but what doesn’t make sense is that Layla is able live through both Aya and Bayek. And as far as I know, the only child they had was Khemu
Ok ive been thinking of this ever since he uploaded this but im gonna comment it now. Ubisoft screwed themselves with Origins. Its a great game BUT they set a cut off point in a time period. Anything before Origins people hate. Also Fizhy is pissed about Darius looking, acting and having the philosophy of an assassin. In the vault in AC2, Darius was an ASSASSIN who assassinated Xerxes which was the first use of the hidden blade which was shown in the dlc. So Origins made the brotherhood being created after there was already an assassin about. So they made an origin of the assassin brotherhood without checking some of the lore before hand. Obviously they still have around 2 thousand years to work with but since its definitely not going to be in the 1900s onwards, thats around 1750 years. Which will be a long time from now, but what happens when they run out. I dont know, i dont know what ubisoft will do, but if it goes before origins, ac fans will hate. Sorry about my rant i just had to get it out. Especially since Fizhy hated Darius even though it was right in Odyssey just Origins got in the way which made him hate him
Here's my theory:
Montreal was working on Origins at the same time Quebec was working on Odyssey. The two weren't communicating and because of that both teams essentially made origin stories that contradict each other. This would make sense except for the fact that Quebec messed up things other than establishments in Origins.
Short version:
Quebec should never be allowed to make another Assassin's Creed game.
Agreed
Montreal started working a year before quebec
MCU HQ smart
nishant suresh story could still overlap
No
Community: We want Bayek sequel
Ubisoft: We already have Bayek sequel at home
Bayek sequel at home:
Lmao
wouldnt this be a sequel?
@@carlosguijon8053 are you the dumb?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Proves a point you made earlier: AC needs Lore team.
Two games with two different directors, the one contradicting the other...while contradicting the older games in the franchise.
Quite the mess!
Hope AC Legion will be more true to the established lore. For now, I will pass on Oddyssey
Odyssey is actually not cannon, the whole game is not cannon.
Too bad Ubisoft will never listen to logic cause they got their heads up they're ass holes.
@@h3nder I believe the overall story is, at least the book Ubi released.
If follows their own canon choices / main character, leaving the players to make their own choices in game.
(Prefered a set character with less choices and more depth myself, though)
@@TheAquarius87 Yes, the events are cannon, but I am not so sure about the DLC.
Plus, they'll probably de-canonize it later.
I have yet to play Odyssey as I was going through older games first since I haven't played them since BF came out, and after watching all the reviews I'll skip both this and the next one.
I hope they get away with all the choice and cannon breaking bs, honestly Origins is such a good game that they can build the gameplay of that and sell it for next 10 years.
@@h3nder Yeah Origins was quite amazing.
I chose to buy the Ezio collection over Odyssey and I'm still not regretting it! (Though nostaglia for Ezio is a major factor for me)
1) Darius was a missed opportunity to make him interesting.
2) Neema/Natakas are boring, uncharismatic characters with a serious lack of development for someone with such importance for the story.
3) The story is lame and has nothing of original value.
4) Facial animations are terrible and just seems to be getting worse.
5) The voice acting is very toned down and bland and the emotion in most of the lines is non-existent.
6) Gameplay is recycled and there is nothing new to really experience. New abilities barely change shit and most of the quests are basically run here, collect this, kill that. Fucking boring shit.
7) The rpg element has been executed poorly because "player choice" will always end with the same outcome. The dialogue options are meaningless as it only changes your characters attitude at that time and never has a greater effect.
8) The story literally makes no sense as mentioned in this video.
the dlc is so poorly written and made, it's so embarrassing that they actually greenlit it
1) I don't see how Darius is uninteresting. Yes, he could have been explored in more depth, but you can say that about any character in supporting character. What's important is that he had an identifiable personality and character. Naturally, he's reserved and not overly talkative. He's your typical silent but deadly badass character. But there's some depth there because that silence has a purpose. He's had to run for his entire life, never being able to ease his mind. He's therefore defined by his need to protect what small part of a life and of a family that he still has left: his daughter. Is it wholly original or complex? No, but he has a character and it works within the narrative.
2) Yeah. I think her/his character is fine, they're just really underdeveloped. They're relationship with Alexios/Kassandra is also flat and unearned. However, Michael Antonakos' performance is really affective and it almost makes up for the lack of chemistry between him and Neema. I haven't played with Kassandra so I don't know if the same can be said for Melissanthi.
3) How?
4) I disagree.
5) I couldn't disagree more.
6) I agree.
7) I agree.
8) How?
@@calebmurphy9406 the facial animations make AC Odyssey look more like AC Mass Effect Andromeda
@@Roninberserker I don't agree.
@@calebmurphy9406 that's ok everyone has their own opinion
At this point, the best course of action is to consider the entire AC Odyssey story as a separate timeline. The last actual lore contributing game was Origins. We all have to accept this. It's the only way to avoid complete insanity.
If you separate Odyssey from the AC universe, it's actually a really fun and enjoyable game and the story is pretty good. But as an AC universe game, it's disrespectfully ignorant.
Gonna do that now!!
I can get behind the novelisation of Odyssey to be in the same timeline as Origins. But yeah what you've mentioned is probably the best course of action with the game
or this was all just helix memories created by abstergo and made the assassins believe they were rendering the real memory files
@Jade Crawford there definitely were assassins (note the lower case 'a') before Bayek and throughout history. The point is that Origins showed the origin of the Leap of Faith as being something personal to Bayek which he later taught other Hidden Ones; there was a lot of emotional weight behind that and it was well done. This DLC basically spits in the face of that by showing it to be a regular practice of people like Darius; someone whom even the later Assassins (upper case A) would idolise but existed long before Bayek. What was the point of Bayek's story if you can say that all that has been done by other people in the past? Realistically it may have happened, but it's just bad storytelling.
If the dlc was actually about Darius and you got to play as him in Persia and see him earn his name as the murderer of Xerxes, see him crate the hidden blade and see Darius and amorges’ relationship get better and then slowly worsen. You’ll be able to explore Persia as Darius and have more stealth weaponry such as throwing knives, smoke bombs, sleep darts, berserk darts and you’ll be able leave Persia at anytime and go back to Greece as Alexios/ Kassandra and continue helping Darius escape Greece and kill the order in Greece. No Neema no Elpidios just Darius and The eagle bearer learning from each other and coming to terms that they are both different as Alexios prefers being loud with his antics while Darius prefers discretion
They should've just put Darius into the base game. The Eagle Bearer could meet him relatively early on in the story (say after dealing with the wolf of sparta) and he could become a mentor for the eagle bearer. Maybe he's hiding in Kosmos territory because it's mostly out of the orders range but decides to help the protaganist due to realizing that they are just as effed up as the order (maybe he didn't even know about the cult, only that the order wasn't in greece for some reason).
And voila the issues with this and the main story (lacking connection, hidden blades) would be fixed.
But then that's like a different game
what you just described should be the entirety of the main game of Odyssey
That pyramid thing is the most embarrassing thing I have seen in the whole of assassins creed
They ruined origins in my eyes. Origins was one of my favourite ac games as well
killing the leader of the cult who didnt actually die until she was 70 something 🌚
No it was the wole series since AC 3 except for black flag, origins, and odyssey
dipzoid Odyssey is a fucking embarassment to the franchise
@@archielong3297 origins is my fav ac game but quebec destoied ittt sry if i said it wrong but i dont care ismail is tze best
Ubisoft: So basically Aya is the most powerful assassin to have ever lived
Me: Why?
Ubisoft: Shut up
Well she killed cleopatra and Caesar, so bayek may have started the hidden ones but aya was more committed and focused on it, bayek only wanted revenge on his sun but aya was already an assassin
@@glowhoo9226 Aya was alright, but no way was she the most powerful assassin
Ubisoft is like this hypocritical society. They could've just made Aya the protagonist and switched roles. They didn't. So we just can't connect with her because we're so invested in Bayek. They just want to look "woke". Then came Odyssey. They promoted the game around alexios. And then said the female was canon. Yeah then why were you so scared of saying that from the start. I honestly believe sales wouldn't have been affected by promoting Kassandra. They should've stuck with one protagonist. Most people chose alexios because 1.Most gamers are male and given the choice most of them would choose their avatar to be male 2. They made it look like he was the better character.
Oh yeah blood line then how come she can't jump off very giant cliffs or anything
@Super JLK yeah. Absolutely. It should be about experiencing memories. About Kassandra, the issue for me was how no character in the game remarks that a woman is a mercenary in the time period. Not surprising since they basically changed nothing for either character's story. When it comes down to it, Altair as the descendant instead of Aya would've made a lot more sense. He even looks like Darius as he ages. More importantly he's the most important figure for all assassins after him.
“THAT’S NOT YOUR ROOF”
“YOURE RIGHT”
“Oh Hi Mark”
I laughed way too hard at that part.
I liked it more when assassins creed was about assassins
Raccoon I’m really sad reading this because it’s so true
I liked it when assassins creed was about actual historical events.
@@bonemech5000 this was about a historical event, the Peloponnesian war
@@nelsondelvalle694 yeah but the war didn't have magical super heroes and a bunch of bullshit
The Assassin's Creed franchise died with Desmond.
Fan-fictions literally have higher quality writing.
kurb and have more creativity too.
Them deviant art x readers have better stories
And have more respect for continuity and lore
This DLC felt like a parody of AC lmao. Some things were so funny lmaoo, I almost pissed myself when James saw Darius perform the Leap of Faith
MrAssassinHD lmao i need to put more hay bales that shittt was fucking funny
All we wanted was a damn Bayek Sequel!!
U asked for a bayek sequel, theyll give u a game set during the prehistoric time.
A decade ago, when Ubisoft made a good game, they made sequels until the story was finished and couldn't be continued(AC2-AC Embers). Now it's just "let's just give this game the incorrect name, tricking people into thinking it's good so we get money, and if it works, do it again"
Paco Ks not me tbh. I give origins a 7/10 tho🤷♂️
Ice Cold Lemonade funny, considering it was better than the Witcher 3 in nearly every way
@@wezzsimple6612 lol
Origins is one of, if not the best AC game ever made! Followed by the Ezio trilogy
Yuuga Aoyama it’s my second favourite, origins big lit
Origins wasn't even that good and Bayek was kinda boring
Oddysse6 was better than origins
@@lightyagami8645 i'm guessing this is a joke...
@@lightyagami8645 says odysey is better but can't find the reasons... lol
It would’ve made much more sense & been a much better dlc had Darius been written correctly & if he was related to Bayek not Aya. That way that tradition of the Leap of Faith would have still been about confronting your fears & it would’ve remained consistent with what was shown in Origins.
I would still bet torn with that but that is a logical middle from what we want and what ubi wants but somehow it’s Aya making no sense
PrinceRPG exactly, if we the fans were to decide what the dlc would be then it would be a much different story. Plus the people at Ubisoft should’ve realised it made no sense to have Aya be the descendant. They were just pushing a narrative & throwing logic as well as the respect of their fans out the window.
It would've made even more sense if they ended up with Altair. He's basically the GOAT and Mentor for the assassins in the modern day. Perhaps the most important assassin ever. He actually learned using pieces of Eden, even performed feats like creating duplicates like Kassandra without getting his mind corrupted and with no visible physical toll. He guided Ezio and Desmond by storing his memory. The guy even looked like Darius in old age.
Literally feel your rage when Neema/Natakas throws the heirloom into the sea. I was just thinking “whoever wrote this story deserves death by the order of the ancients”
I’ll slightly defend when Gergis says “Everything is permitted”. Both Darius/Artabanus and Amorges held the same ideology up until a certain point. So it’s safe(ish) to say that this is where you say Templar/Assassin ideology diverge. Again, Ubisoft could’ve avoided this furore by leaving that bit out anyways.
Neema/Natakas are wasted characters. Even Darius/Artabanus is and Ubisoft should’ve left the “mystery” about him alone.
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I'll forever pretend that Assassin's Creed Odyssey(most part of it at least) never happened and it's a failure of Layla's animus.
Well technically her Animus does make up the parts that it can't retrieve from DNA, so this is what I've been holding as true, only certain aspects of odyssey are cannon, but most of it is made up by Layla's Animus
I stopped counting games as canon after syndicate.
ZhinZhaw Gourneau How is Origins not canon? Lol
@@snikerz5886 origins is the best ac creed since black flag and continues to be tho
If Ubisoft didn’t hate Bayek so much him being from the bloodline would explain Senu and a lot of of the things he could do. Also why in the fuck are you still Alexios. Kassandra’s voice is better
MUCH better, might I add.
Alexios' voice makes me feel like he's pissed off all the time
Unity had a shit script but executed it pretty well.
Odyssey has a potentially brilliant script but with shit execution.
Unity sounded the best of Assassins Creed in Paper.
Odyssey sounded the worst in execution AND paper, only good in concept was the setting.
@@memecliparchives2254 amazing gameplay , good story and great graphics
@@lightyagami8645 Not good Story though. Arno was irritating and Bellec should have been the star.
@@memecliparchives2254 nah arno was a great character imo he was the best character in the game imo
@@memecliparchives2254 oddyssey have a better story than unity
For some reason, whenever I hear about Darius , I remember something Altair wrote in the Codex. It was about how the ideologies of the Assassins and Templars may have been founded repeatedly several times throughout history. I think that might be the case
Personally I loved it, despite its flaws and consistency in the lore/plot it did manage to set up the timeline between Odyssey and Origins I guess...
I also respect and understand people who did not like it because people are entitled to their own thoughts and preferences. The "You Love Some, You Hate Some" way of thinking.
ERIK VU i did like the story didnt care for the aya origin thing because ive never played it but i did enjoy the abilitys the armor
For myself, I am fine with the game, as I don't completely hate it. I do enjoy the gameplay, though it does take me a while to get the assassination kills just right. I like the setting and having the ship with ship battles (which does reminds me a bit of Assassin's Creed 4). But everything else, I can either take it or leave it.
Wouldn't surprise me if Ubisoft put Aya in the next game going by this DLC
If they did, I actually wouldn't mind.
it would still be better than this since we might get to see bayek again
This game and DLC annoy me more than should be possible for Assassin’s Creed this game isn’t canon to me in the same way the movie was, what would have been better if Bayek was the descendant it would explain how the leap of faith was passed down through his family at least, how’d you have written Odyssey and Legacy of the First Blade
Im going to pretend this game and it's dlc didn't happen at all lol
Same
I deny odyssey's existence in the AC universe.
Enough said.
too bad the next assassino creed will be directly related to odyssey..
@@heart4179 Don't care, it's pretty much dead now.
It's still a great game, enough said.
Violet Rose well that’s too bad bitch cause now its in AC universe. Quit whining like a bitch.
monty So pretty much Origins was the last AC game released?
“Spoiler Warning”
nobody plays anyways though
8:30 That "FUCK OFF" had so much emotion in it LOOOL I could literally HEAR the anger in your voice Ethan
It was so good XD
The episodes got worse from start to finish. The Huntsman was the most compelling villain in the entire game to me and I enjoyed episode one the most. But the voice acting, timing and animations during cutscenes is bad.
I partially agree. First episode was very good too. Second was bad. Third was my favorite tho. And cut them some slack on animations. It’s about the game, not the animation. If u want animation, watch a movie
@@alex-hg2vo why would I cut them slack? Ubisoft is one of the biggest AAA publishers, they have the money and resources they just prefer to get stuff out quick at a lower quality to continually make money.
I don't understand why people complaining technically this is part of the lore because the Bloodlines came from so they're just explaining and how it was formed I mean many people don't even know how the hell the Assassin's Creed started and tell Origins so everything that's happening up to this point is technically Canon
I miss the Ezio days. I remember when AC2 was released and everyone was blown away by how much of an improvement it was from the first game, which was awesome when it released in it of itself. Such a classic. There's nothing like those days anymore.
6:49 It seems every Tom , Dick and Harry performed the Leap of Faith in Ancient Greece
11:00 Templar Symbol
The first one... Lol
The second one... Didn't notice that the first time but also really funny.
Dont see it
@@gos2501 Check near the OotA symbol. There are 4 crosses
Woah that’s COOL!!!
I’ve genuinely enjoyed assassins creed odyssey and the legacy of the first blade as a whole. I don’t mind if things don’t add with the rest of the lore because in the end it’s just a game, enjoy it for what it is. Odyssey has been so much fun to play and I felt genuine anger and sadness throughout the legacy of the first blade. I even genuinely cried at the end of the DLC because I really feel for Alexios. Having to go through so much to get your child back only to let them go to keep them safe. I will still defend this game and its story and even if it has issues or the story has moments where it doesn’t fit with the rest of the lore I still think it’s a fantastic game and Ubisoft has the right to do what they want with the story whether it all fits together or not. It’s just a game, enjoy it for what it is :)
I'll respect that you stated your opinion in a polite way even if I didn't agree with it.
I think we all just need to pretend that this game never happened just like the movie...
Suraj Shaw this is a great game
@@onikai7055 Good... Then keep playing this great game and call it a great game, just do not call it an Assassins Creed game.
@@onikai7055 you dumbfuck this is the worst AC ever .
Yea i agree 100% , i will pretend it dose not exist .
@@hamaguitar Man... They are really taking their time with the next AC game. I mean the last ac game was Origins in 2017 and next one I have heard is going to be in 2020. I think this is the first time I have seen them take 3 years to release an ac game.
Everyone is related its in their creed they are assassins
Roadhouse
Please tell me you are sarcastic
@@christrasa8878yeah I'm being sarcastic
Roadhouse
@@GRH_Roadhouse nice its not always easy to ditect sarcasm
@@christrasa8878 the thing is there are genuinely stupid people that'd actually say and believe that on the net
@@norseca542 well i didn't believe it thats why i asked him but this comunity is full of dumb people that its not that clear if a person is sarcastic regarding that topic
I like how Ubisoft Montreal pioneers the series and Ubisoft Quebec just reskins it.
Now that i see that, and you mentioned the Tombs in Italy...how come Darius was mentioned in a Assassins Tomb as an Legendary Assassisn , but the Order of Assassins was not founded then?
Wait, weren't Adam and Eve the first people to do the Leap of Faith? I thought they did it to escape the Isu.
No they didn't, they just leaped.
LOL only they have Isu genes which was by accident from juno's experiment. This isu blood line shit was pulled out of their asses so the spartan twins could have super powers. No super powers, just eagle vision and enhanced reflexes.
I think with the whole "All Things Are Permitted" line, he was meaning that the ends justify the means for the Order and it would have probably worked better had he said something different. But then they tried to make a reference and it broke the lore.
As for the leap of faith, its inferred that it was a Medjay tradition that only they knew how to perform correctly. So if that tradition was initially mastered by Darius and passed through the generations, it could have been passed down through to Bayek as a Medjay tradition that was adopted as a symbol of the Hidden Ones
i totally agree with justifications like this. I think the old AC purists will find ways to hate on anything added to these games that fondle with the ways they think the lore is being changed, and aren't being open minded enough to see what the story is trying to say.
Also I think the scene when they show the pyramids and stuff being built in egypt is totally fine too, I just chalk it up to the fact that the history books have it all wrong, just like Warren Vidic says in AC1. I think this cutscene is trying to portray AC's version of how and when the pyramids were built, not what is historically accurate.
I used to love assassin's creed 2, brotherhood, revelations, ac 4 and even 3 but odyssey is an absolute joke. I've played episodes 1-2 and it's just awful dlc, It's a massive misstep.
origins was a good origin story
I don’t know if anyone has had this same problem but while beginning episode 3 of the dlc my Alexios began speaking in Kassandras voice and Darius began addressing me as Kassandra when the subtitles said Alexios it is fucking astounding how bad these glitches are
If Ubi keeps going this route, the franchise will die within the next 2-3 games.
fortunately they have changed a lot of story elements in valhalla and darby mcdevid said it will have a lot of assassins creed elemnts
@@بهشادبشردانش
it looks weak tbh
@@devilgames2217 the combat looks amazing and there are a lot of cities and tombs for parkor also the dialog system has been toned down and actually has consiquences stealth looks fine sociall stealth is back and the assassins creed templar conflict is there.....
to be fair i didnt expect them to change a lot of things (like engine) so i wasnt dissapointed because they normally do 3 games on 1 engine .....im sure the next game is gonna be on a new engine but with this current game im satisfied with what they are doing....also the creator of the game is the people behind origins black flag and revelations
@@بهشادبشردانش منم امید دارم به اینیکی. تیمی که اینو ساخته میدونه داره چکار میکنه
I think the leap of faith can be explained that Darius new he couldn't protect the legacy on his own and made a friend and taught him everything he knew so that there would always be someone looking out for the bloodline ,it could even explain why Bayek and Aya grew up together and fell in love because their families were always connected
I knew from the beginning that deviating from Origins and Bayek was a bad idea. They could've had a great thing going if they decided to continue rather than going back to a "more interesting time period". Odyssey could've been a great game on it's own but by just barely latching on to the Assassin's Creed brand it does both the game and the series as a whole a disservice. I mean Odyssey is better for the gameplay but the story is severely lacking unlike Origins. Here's hoping the next game can fix things and tie all this mess together. Oh, and BRING BACK BAYEK FFS!
Darius' VA sounds like they asked a janitor to voice him
Ubisoft need to hire skilled writers
AC dosent need dialogue choices, like for side quests maybe but not for the main story
Lol man
Kassandra is better than alexios
The voice a thing i mean
Maybe try playing as her
Geralt of Rivia They're both bad
@@dragan3659 not really
I like kassandra
Geralt of Rivia when will you be in witcher 4??? I missed the Witcher
@@iungimus i won't be there
If the game actually happens
Geralt of Rivia CD project red said that they are gonna come back to the witcher it just wont have Geralt as the protagonist
The fact that we can't use the hidden blade made this entire dlc storyline pointless
At the very least they could’ve made it a 1-point Assassin ability like Death Veil
I can't believe this ending.
It's just too naive - the descendant of the person involved in fighting with order of the ancients and finding pieces of Eden is the girl responsible for founding assassins' brotherhood.
COME ON
I love the videos when you get Fizhy earape because you can feel the frustration and anger
I don’t care if the developers say that odyssey is canon in my assassins creed it’s not fuckin canon
In my eyes only teh modern day is and thats for valhalla, the rest is a simulation of mythology lmao
As a video game, I love odyssey. I love the characters and even if it isn’t executed well, I loved it as a separate game. But to include it in the assassin’s creed story is an absolute embarrassment to the franchise.
In summery: Good game, must not be allowed in the franchise.
Sorry you didn't enjoy it. I personally loved it, I had no trouble with voice acting as I played with Kassandra. I didn't like Natakas, but I played through it anyways. I wasn't upset when he died, more-so glad I didn't have to waste time on him anymore.
I'm not trying to just shove the point in there, but as a girl playing I have a better understanding of the relationship between mother and child than some players, perhaps including yourself. So I did feel the emotional connection in Episode 3, and it was a nice ending despite the plot holes and continuity errors. If there's anyway Ubisoft can fix this, I hope they do so. This game and DLC had so much potential - the biggest problem is that they didn't go linear. A linear story would've meant that we could reference to the Eagle Bearer's family in places in the DLC, such as talking to Myrinne rather than Barnabas. But alas, Ubisoft have fucked up AGAIN. Can they do anything right with this game that'll satisfy everyone and not just people like me (or just me).
I like your respectful way of adressing him even if you two differed in opinion. Wish more people were like you
@@violetrose415 I wish the 4 pillar fanbase showed respect towards people who like Odyssey instead of harassing and name calling anyone who says anything positive about it.
@@rondaniels5089 i wish for the same the other way around.
Girl, the voice acting was shit no matter who you play as. I hated the shoving of parenthood down our throats. I hated my character needlessly caring about Phoibie and I hated being forced to apparently care about Elphidios the crotch spawn.
Sarah Jenkins that’s why it should’ve been linear. Ubisoft say they give you choice, and yes there is a choice to be an asshole to Phoibe or to be kind. But no matter what you still cry over her death. While if it was linear, you would have been forced to like her because 1) it’s a linear game. You don’t GET a choice and 2) there’s no other option. I actually thought the voice acting was fine, great even, but that the animations didn’t give it justice. The mocap scenes are definitely the best scenes for quality as you really see the emotion on the characters, while in the animated scenes that use pre-programmed actions along with dialogue mess up timing. That’s why (LINEAR!) all mo-cap games such as Uncharted do as well as they have done. The effort is clearly shown in the games, which is another thing, Odyssey should’ve been given another year to allow that quality to be fully worked on and perfected.
Parenthood is shoved down your neck in Origins, did you hate that too? I understand one’s a game and one’s a DLC but you have to understand that was the plot. The plot was the Eagle Bearer preserving their bloodline by carrying it on as past generations had, and so they did. But that caused a lot of trouble. THAT’S the plot, that’s not being shoved down your throat. I personally liked seeing the soft side of the Eagle Bearer and seeing them as a parent, but to each their own. Again, the illusion of choice is a major issue.
Honestly after having odyssey for a few months I really would just rather get origins instead because I’ve heard it’s a much more realized game plus the fact that it’s actually, you know, an ASSASSIN’S creed game, ac odyssey is just an average rpg but not an assassin’s creed game and I refuse to see it as such
14:19
Idk about you all but that textureless statuette and the apples show how much they cared about this game , in my experience with games whenever there's a zoom on unto things they usually make sure its the highest rendered shot with the crispiest textures , but nah they just said fuck it lets give the people a textureless zoomed in shot of an apple and of a statuette that doesnt look like anything ...
As far as the protagonist’s voice acting, Cassandra was voiced so much better. Her emotional moments were very impactful. Truth be told, this is my first AC game so all the canon stuff is lost on me. I can only judge this game on its own merits. Just finished my game+ play through of Legacy, and I really enjoyed it. I am a parent , so the ending was very emotionally charged for me. As Cassandra states she will always be there to watch over elpidos and his descendants, I was reminded that she does have the staff of Hermès which grants long life ( immortality) to its bearer. Could the modern day young girl (forgot her name) be of the bloodline, thus allowing Cassandra to pass the staff to her in order to continue the vigil over Atlantis and the powers and wonders contained within? That, for me at least was food for thought. But I do understand true followers of AC lore and canon do not feel this game has its place. I feel the same way about such franchises as Star Wars (Last Jedi) and Star Trek (both the JJ verse as well the Disco verse). At the end of the day I feel like I got my money’s worth of entertainment out of this game, 150+ hours of game play. Your review now has me wanting to give AC origins a roll out. We shall see. Thanks for your honest and insightful review. Cheers
So, I assume the familial connection between Darius and Aya is why she ends up with his blade, but if they'd made him related to Bayek instead, that could've explained the leap of faith. It could be explained as something Darius did, taught to Elpidios, who then taught it to his kids and so on and so on til Bayek. So I think that's a missed opportunity to rectify that but oh well
To be fair it would make sense that the templar use the "everything is permitted" as a maxime because they are an incarnation of it. it's a prevention for the assasin not a maxime.
My Biggest complaint is you don't even get the hidden blade at the end.
Entire DLC was one giant cock tease.
I just got done with the DLC and this man literally summed up most everything that was wrong with this DLC in my opinion and this is why the great Fishy Yarpster is the go to for me when I need an actual well thought out opinion. This game literally doesn't seem like a main title for Assassin's Creed anymore. It feels like a rip off of Assassin's Creed with a bunch of shitty fan service that literally makes zero sense.
I liked the aya thing personally. Also we don’t really know the connection between Bayek’s father and Kassandras blood line. While yes the eagle jump scene is at very least really cheesy, I do think there is some wiggle room lure wise; especially considering bayek’s father told bayek he was suspicious about aya. Maybe he knew more about aya then we know.
8:36 I watched the video waiting for this moment lmao
Best parts were the flash backs of darius, this dlc was made for a Kassandra driven story, some of the scenes just didn’t work playing as Alexios for me
This dlc would've worked, if this set place in an alternative universe.
0:11 Geralt in the background bout to end this man's life for NOT playing his game
8:09 You said it yourself bayek founded the brotherhood not the hidden blade 🤔🤔. Just think that Darius is being hunted by a massive order that's why he hides in the shadows and strikes silently to kill some targets. He is on his own and he says that he does it mainly to protect his family and after for the shake of everyone and for the greater good 👌❤️.Also about the hidden blade as I said he is the one who made it not Your boy Bayek who you always try to defend (by the way I like Bayek as a character).
Legacy of the first blade?
More like...
lEgACy oF tHe BlOodliNe
That would have made way more sense since Darius and Kassandra/Alexios only mention the hidden blade one or two times during the entire DLC
'Nothing is true, everything is permitted' was uttered by the real founder of the Assassins or Hashashin: Hassan I Sabbah. He was also Persian.
Ubisoft should just go back to making Prince of Persia and Splinter Cell games. Give the AC franchise some time.
When I was playing this dlc, and he said, “everything is permitted,” I actually fell out of my chair.
The intro exactly represents my feeling after I finished playing this game...
Not everything is permitted. That one thing is this game.
The only thing I didn’t really like was not getting Darius hidden blades at the end because he literally puts them in a box and looks like he going to give it to you
Bayek is shaking his head in the duwat
thank fuck i found you, your critique is actually respectful unlike lazerz who just insults people all the time
Looking forward to hear your opinions on this, loving the streams btw
It would’ve been better if Darius was in the main storyline of odyssey. Also why choose aya as a descendant when Bayek is a way better character?
Yeah, the complaint about "brand identity for the sake of it" is pointless. Origins and Odyssey both are largely about making the point that the conflict between the Templars and Assassins has been going on since well before either organization actually existed as such (they both, historically, appear in the Middle Ages). Ezio confirms as much as early as Revelations (saying that they've been around in one form or another for thousands of years), and Altair hints at it in the codex in AC 2. Indeed, the order founded in Origins is not the "Assassin Brotherhood," but "The Hidden Ones." The villains of Origins are not "Templars," but "The Order of the Ancients." The Greek word "cosmos" (ie: the Cult of Kosmos, the villains of Odyssey) even means "order." The series has been quite clear from relatively early on this is not about a war between organizations, but ideologies. Why complain that Darius has the ideology of an Assassin? That's literally the point being made throughout the series! Altair is quite clear in the codex in AC 2 about two things: 1) you cannot destroy an ideology, even if you destroy all its adherents, someone will eventually come along and rediscover it, and 2) that is exactly what happened with the Assassins. The fact that the ideology, and thus the methodology that follows from it, predates the Hidden Ones (and thus the Assassins-as-such) is not a problem; quite the opposite, it's been established in the series' lore since years before Origins (and by extension, Odyssey).
I love his freak out in the beginning
Lol see I enjoyed the dlc, but I watch him for his reaction and sense of humor
The Assassin's Creed franchise died with Desmond.
Tbh I really like this dlc. Although I must say that this is no coming from an AC fan (which I am btw ) but from a fan of the greek culture. For me, in order to enjoy the story, you are going to have to imagine most of it. The voice acting of Kassandra wasn’t bad but the animations didn’t do it justice. So yeah , I actually enjoyed it
You know when we first heard of Odyssey at e3 i was unhappy with all the changes. I thought maybe i'll play it and i'll find that i like it. I can honestly say this is the first game where i've disliked it more and more as i play. Long time fans are being let down. I don't know the numbers on how many new people are buying these games. What is Ubisoft doing? I was excited about all the rumors regarding the next game in rome. Now i'm sad.
Also. This has tainted my feelings on Origins. I love that game. I thought it lost some of the AC identity as well but it was a good step for the franchise and i over looked a few of its flaws. All this lore nonsense ruined it for me. Why are all these studios makings different games at the same time and not talking to each other at all about the story???????!
Honestly the ending would've made SOME sense if Aya was the main character of AC Origins as it was supposedly the original plan but Ubisoft shut that down because "Women don't sell"
I don't like Odyssey, but please don't be rude to people who like it.
So stating an opinion is now being rude?
“That’s not your roof” fucking A1 writing right there......
I just wanna know if you get to keep the blade and actually use it in game
It would’ve been better if the descendant is Bayek
8:45 I don’t think that’s a problem for Porto-templars, or even Templars to believe everything is permitted.
In the first Assassin’s Creed, one of the Templar Altair killed actually said they believe in nothing; and looking back to their actions, the Templar have nearly no moral code to restrict their methods to achieve their goals.
"Everything is permitted"...considering Darius' influence on the order before he left who's to say there can't be overlaps. The Templars and Assassin's are repeatedly shown and represented as aiming for the same or similar goals while differing in the methods they use to achieve them. Pretty sure Ac3 and Unity leaned on that very fact
This dlc was an actual train wreck.
a wonderful game one of the best!!! and best dlc!! at last a game that shows us where it all started From this game started the legacy of assassin and the hidden blade from here they started the templars and from here it seems started the first civilization!! again congratulations for the game!!!! Stop crying because they do not make you the sake to create the Ubisoft a new game Where to say origin 2 or Ezio Auditore da Firenze 4 and Stop saying lying about the game.... you remind me of the little kids that do not make the sake their mother and dad they start crying and screaming
You clearly don’t understand the lore of AC if you think this game and it’s DLC does a good job with it.
@@dawsynasay4841then enlighten me idiot!!! I guess you would have spoke with Altaïr And he explained to you the real role of the game!!
Nerd that was smart of him.
Actually, "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" is a maxim of original assassins.
Those assassins existed during the Human-Isu war 75,000 years BC.
Every version of the assassins since then, of which there have been many, has been an offshoot of those assassins. Kind of like a genetic memory from all our ancestors. It really is humanities creed.
Likewise, there have been many versions of the assassins through history even long before Bayek or Darius.
For example, Cain stole the apple of eden from Able. The first recorded templar assassination by an assassin.
Legacy of the First Blade is very faithful lorewise.
It's Fate of Atlantis that is a complete and utter mess that hopefully gets retconned as none of it is even possible.
I kind of like the idea that Kassandra and Aya are related but what doesn’t make sense is that Layla is able live through both Aya and Bayek. And as far as I know, the only child they had was Khemu
*Kassandra/Alexios
Hey I made a guest appearance at 5:00 ! Thanks ethan
Ok ive been thinking of this ever since he uploaded this but im gonna comment it now. Ubisoft screwed themselves with Origins. Its a great game BUT they set a cut off point in a time period. Anything before Origins people hate. Also Fizhy is pissed about Darius looking, acting and having the philosophy of an assassin. In the vault in AC2, Darius was an ASSASSIN who assassinated Xerxes which was the first use of the hidden blade which was shown in the dlc. So Origins made the brotherhood being created after there was already an assassin about. So they made an origin of the assassin brotherhood without checking some of the lore before hand. Obviously they still have around 2 thousand years to work with but since its definitely not going to be in the 1900s onwards, thats around 1750 years. Which will be a long time from now, but what happens when they run out. I dont know, i dont know what ubisoft will do, but if it goes before origins, ac fans will hate. Sorry about my rant i just had to get it out. Especially since Fizhy hated Darius even though it was right in Odyssey just Origins got in the way which made him hate him
I need to replay the Witcher 3 to cleanse my brain from the filth that is ac Odyssey.
EluciaDeLuteIma after your done with that go play origins good story phenomenal dlcs go try it
I do find it interesting how Darius wears his hidden blade on top of his arm like Lia de Russo from AC Brotherhood.
I'm not surprised that Aya is a descendant of them. I predicted it pretty early in my run through of Odyssey