Sean Lang, your bass drum techniques have helped me make great strides in improving my skills on the double bass pedals. I can't tell you how thankful I am for what you guys have done for my drumming!
This is honestly, the best bass drum technique because the power comes from a pendulum of the beater swinging, it takes almost no muscular exertion and Sean is right, it takes a while to master, but it's definitely worth it. Swivel and heel-toe are alright, but still take more energy.
This is true. Ive learned that when I play I use a combination of heel up heel down and heel toe wich leads to a technique like this one where its not quite heel up or down but in between. Nice lesson.
Thanks for the video!!! I never thought i would i use double bass with that technique, but it turns out i was practicing it in school for the last 6 months!!!!
@josedistant you should try heel up for the faster one's, it's very effective, use heel down when you're trying to be quiet and use the "flat foot" for general use with double bass
Guys i have this technique down, i just have 1 small problem, my foot never stays in the same spot, like it will go down or to the left of the footboard basically places where im not comfortable doing this any solutions to stop this?
You just have to player slower and focus on keeping your foot in the particular spot. As you keep doing this, it'll become second nature and your foot will stay there naturally.
I don't know if it can help, but it took me 9 month to control it, and 1 years to start speed up. Iam now reaching 220bpm for probably 1min (maybe more now) I think this is the best technique to not be tired and reach easily some speed. But if you trigg for example the double stroke sounds better maybe, but if you want mics (i actually use Trigger + Mics) then flat footed is probably better. Ho and now iam not using double bass for tempo lower than 110 bpm which allow me to have a free feet :)
sooner or later if you want to play at higher bpm you will need to max out the tension. that said theres no need to start with it maxed out, just go with what feels comfortable at the tempo your playing and increase as you get faster. you will feel it when you start trying to lift your foot instead of having the tension do it for you. Hope that helps some :)
i guarantee it. this is definitely a great technique. ive been playing double bass for a while with this technique and i can just about get to 220 bpm. swivel is great for above that
this is how i started playing and it has proven to be a problem with me trying to learn double bass techniques with one pedal lately...if anybody has tips for getting out of the flat foot habit hit me up! please haha
How to i get past my twitching in my left foot? (less dominant leg) and how to strengthen my shins better because im mostly just having to use my legs since theyre not strong yet. Thanks
Try taping batteries(double A) to the back of that beater or both. When you take them off the pedal is so light. It will strengthen your muscles for sure! A famous death metal drummer (Kevin Talley) used to teach me and that was his advice. Just don't rely on it too much!! Good luck!!!
this is good technique if u re playing for hours : :D but still i prefer heel toe technique u know :) better control for me (and i use more hi hat and only one pedal that both pedals only if i play metal or something like that :) )
So, do you use your thighs, not your calves? I seem to do it quite fast when I do it with my thighs. If I try this technique with my calves, i lose fatique faster.
@sovereignsjust your feet are just like your hands. Your brain says lets do 250 bpm your feet probably are not there yet. I know for me learning double bass took me a while, at least for my left foot. It's the same as learning how to play fast singles with your hand, it will come in time.
I have a question: I'm using a Millenium PD-222 Pro series for three years now and i tried to learn these technique for the same time, but most of the time both Mallets are hitting at the same time the base drum and not these clear 16th notes like in the video :( What is the problem ? Me or the pedals ? :oo I would enjoy a quick answer :P PS: I'm from germany so sorry for my English ;)
I can do this technique really well, once I'm in the groove, but for whatever reason, when I start to use the technique, like when i blast into super fast double bass, it starts sloppy, or really quiet. LOL
ummm. quick question, how hard do I have to kick the pedal to make it sound nice? I'm unsure of my kicking power or if I'm hitting it with enough force. @__@
Considering I spent the last year without a kit and doing this very technique on the ground while waiting at bus-stops, methinks I should try work on this once my new double-kick comes in. Also, my shin muscles are fucking ripped from it lol.
this might seem like a silly questions but could you use this for a single bass drum pedal technique as well.heels up is good but i am having trouble doing quick kicks in succession like for a galloping beat.
Is it possible to achieve this technique using a set of chain drive pedals? I have DW 5000's and was wondering if I could use this technique, I see a lot of drummers doing it but they all have longboard axis pedals. Please respond RSVP! Thanks for your time :)
i been playin for 3 years and i got my double bass drum pedal a year ago , i changed my technique from heel up to flat food becouse it was to tired for me but i have troubles maintainig the tempo, i try to keep 80bpm but after a while i speed up . this sometimes happend to me during rehersal and even in a show becouse i have to keep a 80bpr tempo in most of the songs. i've been practicing for an hour every day since last two months but this keep happening... any advices ?? i'm frustated
Sean Lang, your bass drum techniques have helped me make great strides in improving my skills on the double bass pedals. I can't tell you how thankful I am for what you guys have done for my drumming!
This is honestly, the best bass drum technique because the power comes from a pendulum of the beater swinging, it takes almost no muscular exertion and Sean is right, it takes a while to master, but it's definitely worth it. Swivel and heel-toe are alright, but still take more energy.
I'll try it while driving my car ;D
This is true. Ive learned that when I play I use a combination of heel up heel down and heel toe wich leads to a technique like this one where its not quite heel up or down but in between. Nice lesson.
Thanks for the video!!! I never thought i would i use double bass with that technique, but it turns out i was practicing it in school for the last 6 months!!!!
my favorite bas drum technique
@josedistant you should try heel up for the faster one's, it's very effective, use heel down when you're trying to be quiet and use the "flat foot" for general use with double bass
Great video. I have to try this out!
thank you so much
Guys i have this technique down, i just have 1 small problem, my foot never stays in the same spot, like it will go down or to the left of the footboard basically places where im not comfortable doing this any solutions to stop this?
You just have to player slower and focus on keeping your foot in the particular spot. As you keep doing this, it'll become second nature and your foot will stay there naturally.
You can use Velcro or something
thank you! this is sooo much easier than the heel-toe technique!
I don't know if it can help, but it took me 9 month to control it, and 1 years to start speed up. Iam now reaching 220bpm for probably 1min (maybe more now) I think this is the best technique to not be tired and reach easily some speed. But if you trigg for example the double stroke sounds better maybe, but if you want mics (i actually use Trigger + Mics) then flat footed is probably better. Ho and now iam not using double bass for tempo lower than 110 bpm which allow me to have a free feet :)
I always didi that with my feets for a couple of years, I never knew it was a technique!
Interesting techniques! I wonder, what is the suitable tension setting for the pedal?
sooner or later if you want to play at higher bpm you will need to max out the tension. that said theres no need to start with it maxed out, just go with what feels comfortable at the tempo your playing and increase as you get faster. you will feel it when you start trying to lift your foot instead of having the tension do it for you.
Hope that helps some :)
Thanks for sharing.
Can you do a video about different beaters and their uses please
I've never tried this before but I do that all the time the practice bits Ima try it for sure
i guarantee it. this is definitely a great technique. ive been playing double bass for a while with this technique and i can just about get to 220 bpm. swivel is great for above that
@joeyjuniorjunior might be eq1/2/3 or g1/2
this is how i started playing and it has proven to be a problem with me trying to learn double bass techniques with one pedal lately...if anybody has tips for getting out of the flat foot habit hit me up! please haha
How to i get past my twitching in my left foot? (less dominant leg) and how to strengthen my shins better because im mostly just having to use my legs since theyre not strong yet. Thanks
Play 16th notes with your left foot only at a comfortable tempo.
Try taping batteries(double A) to the back of that beater or both. When you take them off the pedal is so light. It will strengthen your muscles for sure! A famous death metal drummer (Kevin Talley) used to teach me and that was his advice. Just don't rely on it too much!! Good luck!!!
I didn't know this was even a technique! I already use this
JBbombproductions I practice like this but do heel up
This works with single too? :D
@josedistant then try heel-up
Nicee drum drum drum
this is good technique if u re playing for hours : :D but still i prefer heel toe technique u know :) better control for me (and i use more hi hat and only one pedal that both pedals only if i play metal or something like that :) )
I love this dude's lessons ;) nice!
What you describe ast the beginning is the ankle technique, not the flat-foot technique, then you transition to flat-foot at the end
Do you keep the tension on the spring fairly loose?
Holy Cow! It's true that you don't really know what you don't know...As I am a beginner, I would have NEVER considered this technique!
So, do you use your thighs, not your calves? I seem to do it quite fast when I do it with my thighs. If I try this technique with my calves, i lose fatique faster.
ACompetitiveHalo Use your ankle and shins. Minimize the amount of movement your entire leg does.
lol i bounce my feet like that all the time lol even without thinking about it, i just never knew that it was a bass drum technique -.-
@sovereignsjust your feet are just like your hands. Your brain says lets do 250 bpm your feet probably are not there yet. I know for me learning double bass took me a while, at least for my left foot. It's the same as learning how to play fast singles with your hand, it will come in time.
I have the motion down, but I'm having trouble getting the two in sync.
I have a question: I'm using a Millenium PD-222 Pro series for three years now and i tried to learn these technique for the same time, but most of the time both Mallets are hitting at the same time the base drum and not these clear 16th notes like in the video :( What is the problem ? Me or the pedals ? :oo I would enjoy a quick answer :P PS: I'm from germany so sorry for my English ;)
Now I hope you see this it’s been 11 years but do you adjust your spring tension for the flat foot technique?
the knees move in this technique, or is only a ankle movement??
I can do this technique really well, once I'm in the groove, but for whatever reason, when I start to use the technique, like when i blast into super fast double bass, it starts sloppy, or really quiet. LOL
what, Cobra's with Direct Drive?
Axis Longboard
@@St_Mindless I appreciate that you replied to a 7 year old comment, thanks man. Also take a peek at the last minute or so of the video :)
@@Lauen didn't even see the time stamp 😂7 years 😂😂
I normally try something then fail. A few years later, i try again not remembering how to do it.Then I do it right. :O
Nice shoes!
can someone explain this a little differently? are you just moving your heel up and down?
ummm. quick question, how hard do I have to kick the pedal to make it sound nice? I'm unsure of my kicking power or if I'm hitting it with enough force. @__@
so are you doing what he is doing at 1:32 or 1:47 because its 2 different things...
Which Evans kick head is the instructor using?
@lilguy49 yeah ok thanks buddy
I do that same technique when the cops get behind me...🤣🤣🤣🤣 I call it the nervous technique....for real though..thanks for sharing...
Considering I spent the last year without a kit and doing this very technique on the ground while waiting at bus-stops, methinks I should try work on this once my new double-kick comes in.
Also, my shin muscles are fucking ripped from it lol.
that's a good way for getting under arrested while been drunk driving, and not being drunk!
this technique is the same as use George Kollias when he not use swivel??
this might seem like a silly questions but could you use this for a single bass drum pedal technique as well.heels up is good but i am having trouble doing quick kicks in succession like for a galloping beat.
does anyone know what bass heads they are i know hes using triggers but they dont look like emads but i quite like them any way
Is it possible to achieve this technique using a set of chain drive pedals? I have DW 5000's and was wondering if I could use this technique, I see a lot of drummers doing it but they all have longboard axis pedals. Please respond RSVP! Thanks for your time :)
yes, no problem with chain drive
@spikeruchiha80 did.... no good idea....
is he related to thomas lang :O
do u still use it if u play single pedal?
@dustyowl99 Every technique is a "shit technique" until you put in the hours necessary to gain control! - Sean Lang
i been playin for 3 years and i got my double bass drum pedal a year ago , i changed my technique from heel up to flat food becouse it was to tired for me but i have troubles maintainig the tempo, i try to keep 80bpm but after a while i speed up . this sometimes happend to me during rehersal and even in a show becouse i have to keep a 80bpr tempo in most of the songs. i've been practicing for an hour every day since last two months but this keep happening... any advices ?? i'm frustated
@josedistant Me too
ar you related to thomas lang...?
... not practical on slower tempos so.. what BPM does the flatfoot kick in? 140BPM?
his heels float a boat at 0:37
@pandulce93 Its SUPER sloppy! I wasn't given a second try, and it was early in the morning. :( - Sean Lang
They are Axis, you can see how it says Axis clearly on the pedal.
I could do it either if i had axis!!
And it's probably the easiest technique to learn!
@JAXETA ... nube.
Little bass drums, or the beaters are super high on his pedals.
Cover an Infant Annihilator song.
Hello Russel Crow...
In the end of the video
This is actually called Ankle technique ... No? Because you only use the Calve muscle (not the Shin muscle, because you don't really need it)
Is this also known as "the ankle technique"?
why does youtube change how comments are read every week but they dont fix things like the view counter?
wat he doesn't get is that it is a lot easier because he has an axis long bord
Sorry, but it's ankle motion, not flat foot. You can watch Derek Roddy video with his explanation of flat foot technique. Or may be i'm wrong...
Heel up gives great control... I have played drums for 9 years... II mostly use heel up...
Are you only playing jazz dude?
@benson1ification Nube.
@spikeruchiha80
lol
stomp drive
you can gain control with this technique too if you practice enough, lol.
WELL HELLO AXIS!
Dude, just use a metronome, it works wonders.
@FaithIsAccidental Wtf?
ankle i think
Its just like bouncing a basket ball... Just with legs...
The
Motion is totally the same
Fuck man that's fast
you must pratice months to be that fast
I actually thought that that was pretty slow
Basically....no pun intended?
EVANS
Why do i focus on that dirty shoe?
What you need is a new pair of shoes!!!!!!
WHAT SHOULD I DOOOO?!.....SHOULD I KEEP THE SPRING TENSION HIGH OR LOW?!......I DONT KNOW!! XD
high!
shit... second =\
hahaha totally canadian! "aboot" instead of about
ok cool but this wasnt fast at all :)
@FaithIsAccidental
Hes an idiot.
First
this is a shit technique not a troll but you get no control with this heel up and lots of practice is the right way to go
@sovereignsjust dont use this technique it gives terrible control stick with heel up man