How to Animate ANYTHING - 4 Types of Motion

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2025

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  • @larsbijl3300
    @larsbijl3300 2 роки тому +2399

    Can't quite wrap my head around an artist on youtube promoting AI art generation in his intro.

    • @upswithwings
      @upswithwings 2 роки тому +456

      You should direct your concerns towards the people who misuse it. Nobal encourages people to use it for reference and sparking new Ideas (as it should be used). It's a great tool for ideas references and just plain fun. I'm 100% behind him. It's not like he's saying, "use this cool tool and sell the art for profit". It's on each of us to make responsible decisions "With great power comes great responsibility". 😮

    • @slightmovement8985
      @slightmovement8985 2 роки тому +218

      @@upswithwings expecting only artists to use ai is like expecting only writers to use spelling checker and article ai's, and only people with a degree to use coding ai's, or musicians music ai's, art AI is the one thats furthest along. Its not about misuse, there is no misuse, its about it costing people their jobs, and taking away possible future positions as well as taking away much of the worth of art, directing it at people using ai is dumb.

    • @slightmovement8985
      @slightmovement8985 2 роки тому +62

      @@upswithwings and what do you mean by misuse it, you are naïeve to believe its made to use as reference only

    • @upswithwings
      @upswithwings 2 роки тому +101

      @@slightmovement8985 Its because I believe Ai art generators should be use for references and "just plain fun" that's why I say misuse. Its not like I have a say for what its made for, but I DO have a say for how I use it.

    • @upswithwings
      @upswithwings 2 роки тому +33

      @slightmovement8985 Also, I never said said I was expecting anybody to do anything. Its up to you whether ya want to use it needless to say.... Im simply just stating that we have the power to do the right thing and I don't get why its dumb to direct your frustrations to the people who do wrong with the art AIs. They are the ones using the AI generators, and or AI and selling the created results and destroying the value of art. Is it wrong to promote responsible method of use to everyone? Um are we on the same side?😅

  • @kalejaiyeyusuf2227
    @kalejaiyeyusuf2227 Рік тому +253

    The first few minutes of this video is the most hilarious thing ever

    • @Coffantasy
      @Coffantasy 6 місяців тому +32

      yeah. its weird how an artist is promoting ai though.

    • @3T3RN4L_D3SP4IR
      @3T3RN4L_D3SP4IR 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Coffantasy I dont think so. As an artist myself i think using ai to create references for new ideas, especially ones that are hyperspecific that you cant find with just 2 clicks is a great way to incorporate AI into the creative workflow.

  • @springwater3723
    @springwater3723 2 роки тому +136

    Your actually a really good teacher i was reading the animators survival kit and couldn't really figure out this concept but after watching this vid everything was a lot more clearer💯

    • @Luminous2023
      @Luminous2023 6 місяців тому +2

      I didn’t understand what he was doing. I’m still new to this

  • @spiceo2
    @spiceo2 2 роки тому +360

    I really love the way you introduced timing charts in this! I've always known about them, but I wasn't sure just how much they'd contribute to the animation process. Really great tutorial, thanks! :)

    • @HM-xw7gp
      @HM-xw7gp Рік тому +1

      Yeah I've been seeing these in animator's projects for the longest time but never really understood how they were used

  • @cosmo_wcue1
    @cosmo_wcue1 Рік тому +55

    Trying to learn animation, wish me luck ! :)

    • @Emosaucecan
      @Emosaucecan 9 місяців тому +2

      Good luck man wish you the best in your journey!

    • @yeahhhhh-c8o
      @yeahhhhh-c8o 3 місяці тому

      How's your animation going , I'm starting today so any suggestions will be appreciated

    • @Hysen_21
      @Hysen_21 2 місяці тому

      How it's going

    • @Monk3y-D-luffy--h3re
      @Monk3y-D-luffy--h3re Місяць тому +1

      How it's going bro

    • @mrmation2309
      @mrmation2309 Місяць тому +3

      i just started too ! ... on 1st of January few days ago

  • @cvgsunset5844
    @cvgsunset5844 Рік тому +58

    Watching this after attempting to do my (technically) second animation, which was a bouncing lollipop with a ribbon attached (I thought it’d be cute, idk 😂) and I’m actually shocked that I kind of was able to “intuit” making the ribbon ease in and out so that it looked “right” according to the feel of the motion I was going for- it followed a similar arc to your figure here. Obviously, it took a long time, I was just adding frames where it felt right, and it wasn’t such a smooth/straightforward process like how you planned the animation here, so this was really helpful in showing how to plan the timing, determine what needs to go on which frame, etc., along with explaining the types of motion. Thank you for such a great video! 🙏

  • @yoggyasf6270
    @yoggyasf6270 Рік тому +6

    JESUS CHRIST, your animation set up is insane!!!

  • @SuPeRg4meCrAfT
    @SuPeRg4meCrAfT 3 місяці тому +7

    don't appreciate the AI ad, everything else is gold, thanks a lot

  • @culan_SCP
    @culan_SCP Рік тому +91

    VERY bold of you to assume i can draw a character

    • @Purefi-d1m
      @Purefi-d1m Місяць тому +2

      😅

    • @Topseehat
      @Topseehat Місяць тому +2

      Yep all I can do is stickmen

    • @naturel0ver2010-c
      @naturel0ver2010-c Місяць тому +2

      Well you don't have to make the character to other's standards. If you know shapes you can draw. Make a box with line arms and legs with a simple face and personality; and boom, a character. A stick man with a purpose and personality? A character. A random non-porportionate monster with feelings? A character.

    • @Topseehat
      @Topseehat Місяць тому +1

      @naturel0ver2010-c good point

    • @HaileyHale-n1y
      @HaileyHale-n1y 11 годин тому

      I have abt 13,245,785 characters 😂😂😂
      I’m kidding😐.
      I have like 4

  • @cinnamintie
    @cinnamintie 2 роки тому +98

    man literally starts his video with a trailer for a website that uses pintrest and artstation to train their ai. Pintrest especially is known for people posting large amounts of uncredited art work, so its impossible for that art to be referenced with any consent. For those curious: CF Spark uses LAION-5B data set for their AI, which heavily just scrapes easily accessible publicly available (note: not necessarily licensed or free use) images for their data set.

  • @andreso9802
    @andreso9802 Рік тому +32

    thank you so much, as a traditional artist getting into digital animation it does look a bit overwhelming. But, here you explained it so well. I appreciate the guides you make, and I will make sure to use these in my future animations!

  • @pepitocovid-91
    @pepitocovid-91 2 роки тому +6

    tHIS WAS ACTUALLY HELPFUL, I'VE BEEN WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS THIS THING'S NAME AND WHAT WAS IT USED FOR AND NOW I FINALLY KNOW IT, TYSM

  • @CrazyLazyArt
    @CrazyLazyArt Рік тому +191

    With everything out about A.I. generated images right now you wouldn’t think big artists with reach would be promoting something so harmful.

    • @weebleevideos9847
      @weebleevideos9847 Рік тому +34

      Ai is only harmful if you make it harmful, using it as a tool for reference only isn’t bad. ai already exist and isn’t going anywhere, so why not find the good in it.

    • @icymoontv
      @icymoontv Рік тому +1

      @@weebleevideos9847For me the only thing I find harmful about A.I. generated images is when people use the art that it generates for profit and claim it to be “art”!🙄

    • @thecreator308
      @thecreator308 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@weebleevideos9847 alright racism exists too are u against it or tryna find the good in it?

    • @LunaNK22
      @LunaNK22 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@thecreator308 😅 bro your argument is irrelevant, AI and racism are not the same thing, AI has its good and bad... Racism is just bad lol
      What kind of thinking ability you have there?

    • @thecreator308
      @thecreator308 3 місяці тому +8

      @@LunaNK22 AI generated image is just stealing, aint no way you tryna find the good in that.

  • @debasishroy3495
    @debasishroy3495 2 роки тому +14

    I tried this after that video and it get improved😳
    I am so happy now
    Thank you for this video 🤗

  • @normalguy6884
    @normalguy6884 2 роки тому +4

    Finally a video where the youtuber teaches instead just do it and expect us to understand

  • @untonyto
    @untonyto Рік тому +14

    Excellent class sir. It's quite a step up from moving boxes to making characters move in a lifelike manner. Thanks

    • @yezzzsir
      @yezzzsir Рік тому +2

      Agreed. Real easy to follow along. I need to practice these way more than I do.

  • @icantexistence
    @icantexistence 2 роки тому +15

    Thank you, Professor Frugal! Learning more every video

  • @Sofia-wx7mf
    @Sofia-wx7mf 2 роки тому +8

    I never understood the how to use the time line thing until now. I understand now thanks to your video, so thank you!

  • @EasyCartoonDrawingTutorials
    @EasyCartoonDrawingTutorials Рік тому +4

    You explain these concepts really well

  • @soliniumpulse5406
    @soliniumpulse5406 2 роки тому +24

    Your explanation of timing charts, as well as your guided tutorial has helped me so much! Thank you!

  • @restingwickd
    @restingwickd Рік тому +8

    your channel was recommended to me by the algorithm after I did a few search on quick videos to onboard junior animators and I'm absolutely delighted that I also get to review everything by binge-watching your content!!

  • @Prophet0
    @Prophet0 2 роки тому +3

    This is the best timing chart video I have seen and I've seen a lot... Thank you and you earned a subscriber

  • @itsthegr8matt
    @itsthegr8matt 2 роки тому +80

    LoL I just understood how to make timing charts. That's super helpful. Thanks!

    • @carlandmariah
      @carlandmariah 2 роки тому +2

      I agree because I was so confused on that before , much appreciated , so many people skip explaining that

  • @KENDOL-SENTOLOP
    @KENDOL-SENTOLOP Рік тому +1

    It's so clearly explanation at the beginning. Smooth Movement, make the animation looking good. Thx 4 the tutor.

  • @MyCah_360
    @MyCah_360 Рік тому +1

    That has to be the most solid Promotion ive ever heard

  • @bartlomiejlakomski3598
    @bartlomiejlakomski3598 Рік тому +2

    helped me a lot I already knew about the motions but it seemed that I didn't understand the correctly and that's why my animations were not smothe at all and I didn't really know why after watching your video I found the problem thanks a lot will watch your other videos as well I am sure I can learn something from it !

  • @animatorFan74
    @animatorFan74 2 роки тому +42

    Such a great tutorial.... I learnt so much just from this basic tutorial to put into my own animattion.... love it :)

  • @Mira-ki3yz
    @Mira-ki3yz Рік тому +4

    I am just a beginner but I am really excited /intimidated and this really helped me with the former. Thanks I will be using all of your videos. I am trying to use Adobe animate hope I can navigate with your videos using that if not I will focus on the concepts once I learn the software. again thanks

    • @SurprisedAlbatross
      @SurprisedAlbatross 8 місяців тому +1

      This comment is a little old, but i hope you are doing well in your animating journey 😊

  • @TheFFireWasHere
    @TheFFireWasHere 2 роки тому +6

    yo you back love your videos :)

    • @NobleFrugal
      @NobleFrugal  2 роки тому +1

      More to come my friend. It's good to be back. Thank you I hope you find them helpful.

  • @poppypinktv
    @poppypinktv 2 роки тому +3

    I followed along, and it worked! Thanks again Sebastian

  • @two-zero
    @two-zero Рік тому +3

    Thank you bro, for this clear and concise tutorial

  • @NOBLEFILMS1987
    @NOBLEFILMS1987 3 місяці тому +2

    AWESOME JUMP ANIMATION! THANK YOU!

  • @dancingdemon1958
    @dancingdemon1958 2 роки тому +462

    I know AI art makes it really scary for illustrators, but AI art cannot create something original the same way a human can. Where humans use references and create something entirely new, AI photoshops a bunch of images together to make something that resembles a new drawing. This difference is important, it means that, if a client needs something specific, the computer won't be able to replicate what the client is looking for completely. It is about intent, the intent of shape language, color palette, stylization, texturing, and shading, all of which are unique to each artist. I hope this has helped reassure anyone who is afraid of losing their jobs or doesn't even want to try as an artist. AI is a tool, just like how a pencil is a tool, or photoshop is a tool.

    • @2dintrovert
      @2dintrovert 2 роки тому +45

      also not to mention that ai cant make copyrightable work

    • @winged_dragon_of_Ra
      @winged_dragon_of_Ra Рік тому +1

      yes keep bitching, but AI will allow anyone to be able to materialize what they have in their mind without failing and being a laughing stock!

    • @StupidBirdChannel
      @StupidBirdChannel Рік тому +13

      Kinda true , on the other hand, NO, Ai art don't just photoshops a bunch of image together.
      That's a common misunderstanding on how the AI works. Basicly the AI is just trained to denoise pics. When you give him a prompt, he basicly tries to understand how he usually have to denoise a noise picture that have the same kind of content than the ones you ask for. For that, yeah , he use a library (that sometimes uses licensed work wich sucks) but this library is actually just used to makes the AI understand what kind of goal is set when it will be time to denoise.
      I know that can be some see as some nitpicking, but I think it's important to tell because YEAH, Ai can create new stuff.
      On the other hand, this is just a tool , and if you really need a perfect result that you will have full control on , for now , you can't go without an artist, and you were right about that one^^

    • @2dintrovert
      @2dintrovert Рік тому

      @@StupidBirdChannel ai art cant be copyrighted because of a monkey

    • @lilowhitney8614
      @lilowhitney8614 Рік тому +8

      Sorry to tell you, but humans can't create anything original either. Even so far back as the greek philosophers, they knew that there's no such thing as an "original" idea. It's all remixing existing stuff in new ways.

  • @gummywasp7174
    @gummywasp7174 2 роки тому +6

    This helped so much! Thank you!

  • @dancingdemon1958
    @dancingdemon1958 2 роки тому +1

    Great stuff, always happy to see new uploads on this channel! Support indie animators!

  • @khiyt6659
    @khiyt6659 Рік тому +1

    That beat was fire 🔥 0:32

  • @FeliJj
    @FeliJj 2 місяці тому +2

    The intro music goes hard 🎶

  • @geewest7745
    @geewest7745 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you chief for such a great video this has sped up my process by alot ❤

  • @hexdump8590
    @hexdump8590 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video. Really like everything was perfectly explained and at a good pace.

  • @rima4437
    @rima4437 10 місяців тому

    You are the best teacher I have for animating so far, thank you for teaching so clear and great, please continue on making videos like this 🌹🌹

  • @franquealencar
    @franquealencar 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice video my friend, thank you for the tips!

  • @littlemimi8145
    @littlemimi8145 2 роки тому +2

    Everything seems to be clear for me now! Thank you Sir

  • @yezzzsir
    @yezzzsir Рік тому +1

    I find myself using this demo a lot as warm up practice.

  • @squigglyverm
    @squigglyverm 2 роки тому +1

    not sure if anyone pointed this out yet but at 1:49 (and subsequently the video) you have exchanged the motion for ease in and ease out. When the images grow closer over time that motion is considered ease **in** and when the images space out over time that is easing **out** . Great video though!

    • @squigglyverm
      @squigglyverm 2 роки тому

      the concepts are clear and the application was on point, but the terms are just wrong :/ considering the reach you have with your platform I would urge you to please cross check terms before uploading the video

    • @NobleFrugal
      @NobleFrugal  2 роки тому

      Hello, Thanks for your feedback. The reason the terms are switched is because I first learned animation on the digital platform. Traditional animators refer to starting slow as an "ease out" and ending slow as an "ease in". Despite how you refer to them though, the important thing is to identify whether an object is moving constantly or accelerating: speeding up or slowing down. My upcoming video will go deeper into that. Happy animating!

    • @squigglyverm
      @squigglyverm 2 роки тому

      @@NobleFrugal thanks for taking your time to respond! It's interesting that you find your digital learning experience this way. If you don't mind, what sources did you learn from? I have a degree in animation (albeit traditional but I learned a lot from online sources also), and have worked in the industry for a while; from this standpoint it's important to know the right terminology for effective communication. All props to you for making easy to digest content and making these animation breakdowns! But the right terminology (for folks looking to work in the industry) is still a must. Have a great day! :)

    • @NobleFrugal
      @NobleFrugal  2 роки тому

      Hello. Thank you as well. I agree with that. I'd have to say that it mainly comes from my experience with Blender 3D and the video editing programs I've used over the years. When editing your animation's curve, (in Blender, or Davinci Resolve, etc) the ease in ease out names are flipped (ease in slows the start, and ease out slows the end). For this reason, I may not continue using these terms at all since, depending on your perspective, they are interchangeable. However, you make a good point regarding industry work. I hadn't thought of that. Okay thanks, you have a good day too.

    • @oskararnarson
      @oskararnarson 2 роки тому

      I scrolled down to the comments to point out the same thing.

  • @thenumber1procrastinator
    @thenumber1procrastinator 2 роки тому +56

    So I've been animating for about a year now (I've got a channel where I post stuff) and I have to say, this is INCREDIBLY USEFUL! Thanks for another awesome video, they really help :)

  • @drawforge3920
    @drawforge3920 3 місяці тому

    2:19 for those just starting , press the control tool with brush to draw straight line

  • @TheMariamMajid
    @TheMariamMajid Рік тому +1

    This video is so helpful, thank you!

  • @LEEJUNGEUN1000
    @LEEJUNGEUN1000 Рік тому +1

    좋아요 감사합니다: ) I am from South Korea. And Thank U for the tutorial video!!

  • @Ms.Night_time
    @Ms.Night_time 2 роки тому

    I LOVE that song!! PLEASE PUT IT ON SPOTIFY

  • @FilmFrolics
    @FilmFrolics Рік тому +1

    thank. you for sharing, looking forward to see more character animation knowledge!

  • @debasishroy3495
    @debasishroy3495 2 роки тому +6

    Wow this video is very helpful 🤩

    • @NobleFrugal
      @NobleFrugal  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you think so. Happy animating!

  • @yoggyasf6270
    @yoggyasf6270 Рік тому

    I jusyt started animating today, I'm so excited to do ts

  • @ZesDem
    @ZesDem Місяць тому +1

    Very helpful!

  • @crystalsboy816
    @crystalsboy816 2 роки тому +2

    Your back I actually missed being treated by you 👽🌻

  • @Orphanlast
    @Orphanlast 2 роки тому +1

    You're getting good man.

  • @domdidit
    @domdidit Місяць тому

    Mad skills and great explanation!!!!

  • @adamtoth3149
    @adamtoth3149 2 роки тому

    Big thanks man, my mentor didn't talked about that, but now i understand how it works.

  • @TheFFireWasHere
    @TheFFireWasHere 2 роки тому

    yo you back love your videos!

  • @nater-lh5un
    @nater-lh5un 2 роки тому +3

    HAPPY 70K SUBS🎉

  • @notnA51
    @notnA51 2 роки тому +52

    I love animation, but I am dissapointed with your AI art shill at the start.

  • @685akuma
    @685akuma Рік тому

    again, thanks man learning a lot from ur channel, ill try to tag u so u can see what uve helped me create.

  • @Discoverwithkate
    @Discoverwithkate 10 місяців тому

    I love ur art style sm :))

  • @greg6500
    @greg6500 2 роки тому

    The billowing on the pants on the down, real nice touch.

  • @ZgadywankiTV
    @ZgadywankiTV Рік тому

    great video, thank you!

  • @HM-xw7gp
    @HM-xw7gp Рік тому +1

    Thank you a lot for this video! I actually learnt a lot :)

  • @Insane2daCore
    @Insane2daCore 2 роки тому +1

    Very clear explanation 🙂

  • @HeyyyKloud
    @HeyyyKloud Рік тому

    just got into animation this helped a lot!!!

  • @subhamoymallick6104
    @subhamoymallick6104 Рік тому

    Sir, you are an inspiration!!🙏🙌

  • @strawberry-sweet
    @strawberry-sweet 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, just wanna say that ur vids help me lot! Thnx!!

  • @CartoonMan-yj7ic
    @CartoonMan-yj7ic 6 місяців тому

    Thank you very much
    This method is so easy❤

  • @WitheringPremise
    @WitheringPremise Місяць тому +1

    I'm very confused on the ease in and ease out portion. The timing is the same as the constant motion and I tried animating it out, but it still looks constant

  • @Sketching1
    @Sketching1 Місяць тому

    Good video 😊

  • @aumoelwal8375
    @aumoelwal8375 Рік тому +2

    Just watched this while eating
    Feel new motivation in me
    What's the name of the animation software btw ?

  • @teeheelol
    @teeheelol 8 місяців тому

    It would have been nice if drawing 5 the SR arm favored more of drawing B when coming down. That way it avoids twinning of the arms and the arc would flow better without popping into the final pose.

  • @arrg6059
    @arrg6059 Рік тому +1

    I didn't understand mapping out inbetweens and labeling frames till this video, this is a gamechanger. Thank you sm ❤❤

  • @poli3676
    @poli3676 Рік тому

    Thank you for the valueable knowledges!

  • @skarlok1
    @skarlok1 2 роки тому +4

    Nice to see that you still improve and work inside openToonz. What is the name of the pad that you use with your xp pen?
    I do kinda miss something like that for my 22 inch screen. Never mind i did found my answer in previous video.

  • @就不告诉你-e7u
    @就不告诉你-e7u 5 місяців тому

    非常棒的教程!非常细致的讲解!非常感谢!

  • @keithrowsell6847
    @keithrowsell6847 2 роки тому +2

    Whoa, how can you get ease in and ease out mixed up?

    • @NobleFrugal
      @NobleFrugal  2 роки тому

      Mainly because I learned animation on the digital platform. Traditional animators refer to starting slow as an "ease out" and ending slow as an "ease in". Despite how you refer to them, the important thing is to identify whether an object is moving constantly or accelerating. My upcoming video will go deeper into that. Happy animating!

    • @keithrowsell6847
      @keithrowsell6847 2 роки тому

      @@NobleFrugal You and a load of young animators have to be careful.
      The concept should be separated from the words used incorrectly in one app.

    • @keithrowsell6847
      @keithrowsell6847 2 роки тому

      The one app being Flash now called Animate.

  • @fatherpucci6111
    @fatherpucci6111 11 місяців тому

    hi noble frugal, do you have some tips as to how to estimate the half desitance of the before frame when you ease in or ease out? thanks for the video!

  • @Alwore
    @Alwore Місяць тому +2

    blue lock animator need to watch this video

  • @linaandlayen2097
    @linaandlayen2097 Рік тому

    my head had exploded 😮‍💨😮‍💨but thanks for ur work🤗

  • @srushtideshpande8
    @srushtideshpande8 3 місяці тому +1

    Why is the extreme drawing on the 17th frame? Why not 24 of whatever the last frame for 1 second is?
    I didn't understand?

  • @тимурдолгов-ф2г

    thanks a lot friend.its amazing!

  • @janeygadil7161
    @janeygadil7161 2 роки тому

    this is very helpful and very good explanation :D ok time to practice this!

  • @tu-wq6gh
    @tu-wq6gh 8 місяців тому

    This was very helpful Thank you so much for your trouble

  • @debrajdas1621
    @debrajdas1621 Рік тому

    We need more videos in this playlist….plz sir🙂

  • @JustFiqri
    @JustFiqri Місяць тому +1

    I'm confused... when I was making a walking cycle animation, the character I made didn't seem to move forward, even though I was sure I had made him move forward 🗿

  • @jhunter1371
    @jhunter1371 2 роки тому

    I just downloaded opentoon to use as my software of choice. I been using cs5 photoshop. I really want to take animation seriously.

  • @GitimaNath-dv8lh
    @GitimaNath-dv8lh Рік тому

    thanks.. The video was very helpful 😊

  • @crisarias6318
    @crisarias6318 Рік тому +1

    espectacular video

  • @AngelsLullabies
    @AngelsLullabies Рік тому

    Beautiful Art

  • @HeroExtreme2003
    @HeroExtreme2003 2 роки тому

    Great video, mate 👏👏 thank you so much!

  • @ike9359
    @ike9359 16 днів тому

    Is there any specific order I should be doing my frames, like when should I do the extremes, at the end or near the beginning

  • @gostokom9061
    @gostokom9061 3 місяці тому

    Huge thanks

  • @potatoshark72
    @potatoshark72 2 роки тому

    YOOO YOUR BACK!!

  • @beedknee
    @beedknee 2 роки тому

    Really helpful! Thank you 💖💖💖🙌

  • @FlipPivanim
    @FlipPivanim Рік тому

    Please do hand move dude 🙏

  • @685akuma
    @685akuma Рік тому

    bruv this is sooo informative W video

  • @burmesepython_
    @burmesepython_ 7 місяців тому

    ngl animating body parts moving was pretty confusing, getting the angles and position. i hope this works