“I was a child when they attacked. An armoured warrior brandishing this, descended upon us and cut down my people. My sisters. Until I was left alone, with the dead.” Merrin
Her and Morgan are two sides of the same coin: both survived the massacre. But one chose to use her power for good and find a new family while the other was driven right into working with terrible people and descending further into darkness.
the way he mocks her groans in pain and her pleading for her kid to run, THIS is the general grevious ive read about, a psychopathic robot general, who fucking loves doing his job
Interestingly it’s a kind of sadism I can tolerate, at least given the distance of the 4th wall. Kind of like Death’s famous ‘Pick it up.’ moment it’s revelling in their desperate hope, letting them think they have an impossible chance and snuffing it out. To see the moment that hope dies as they realise that chance they thought they had was them being toyed with. It’s relishing and revelling in one’s superiority and the futility of the other. Compare that to Sideous’ preferred form of sadism where he just makes people miserable and kills them slowly because it tickles his wrinkled sack or something. I digress, I prefer this sort of indulgent emotional cruelty in a villain than I do one who just hurts people to get their rocks off. The former has an element of pride and personal satisfaction in themself that affirms something about their character, the other is just depraved.
Tbh that was the separatists advantage was having overwhelming numbers & Firepower, especially against clones who are better trained and just overall better warriors & Thinkers than droids
@@Skeptic_Tank no she lost because she wasn’t a gungan 🗿 u can ruin the savagery of this scene by remembering how he was so easily humiliated and captured by gungans
"Yay a battle without fuuuuucking Obi-Wan kenobi wrecking my day" Honestly if Obi-Wan isnt involved, Greivous' chances of actually being good triple immediately
Love how this scene hits most of the same beats from his first appearance in 2003. Starting with the group being tactically outmanoeuvred by droids. A crushing front of B1 and B2 battle droids forcing them into Grievous, who then has them flanked by commando droids while they’re focused on him. And that’s before he brutally dismantles their leader in top form that we haven’t seen from him in over a decade, like something out of a slasher horror film he’s unstoppable.
My only complaint is he only had one real opponent, Selena. We should've seen him duel more swordsisters, cutting them down until it was just her, before finishing her off.
I so agree. It wouldn't have been hard to just make him much more menacing back then and give more scenes where he's taking Ws. They should be able to see how much people love his portrayal here, or anything similar to the 2003 one
It's a big problem of the Clone Wars show as the CIS is simply not threatening enough and taking constant Ls but for some fucking reason some cat-slavers are capable of bringing down Obi-Wan and Anakin.
TCW is _not_ good largely because of how idiotic it makes its antagonists. I cannot take its version of Grievous seriously as any kind of galactic threat.
I watched the early seasons of 2008 Clone Wars at an impressionable age, but upon watching the series again as an adult I have come to realise just from how utterly mediocre to downright bad most of the show is. It has some good moments and episodes here and there, sure, but almost every portrayal of the CIS is just outright dreadful with how buffoony, incompetent, and comically useless and unthreatening the droids and the CIS are. Most villain of the week commanders are just pure cringe, and the droids have way too many comedy moments to take them seriously as the murder bots they are supposed to be. The CIS cannot be taken seriously as a galactic military force, they are so incompetent and weak. Grievous was absolutely dreadful for the most part, being just a constantly babbling and arrogant but weak punching bag who has to run away from most fights. Hell, the show even found a way to ruin Count Dooku by turning him into an utterly ridiculous caricature dry old tart, without any of the background motivations and misguided view that he is supposed to have. Dooku is supposed to be an evil man who still has an honour code and thinks he is using the side of Sith and evil for doing the "right thing", but in the Clone Wars he is just this utterly alien caricature. Even the supposedly "good" Umbra arc is just purely underwhelming with how utterly ridiculously one-dimensional and flat-out "lol random evil" they made Pong Krell out to be, and the Clones can't ever really learn anything from the experience and nothing ever changes after it is over. Then don't get me started on the Order 66 retcon... with all these and much more I could go on but I don't want to, not now.
@@boush1177 Umbara is so dumb. Pong Krell thinks getting a couple squads of clones to friendly fire each other is going to be enough to get Dooku to let him defect? That's absurd. At _minimum_ it should've been turning the planet over to the Confederacy. 30 clones are small change compared to an entire system. My biggest issue with Order 66 is the inhibitor chips, since they undermine _everything_ every writer had been trying to get across about the clones...and to make matters worse, every single clone _except_ Rex is immediately under their thrall, because Rex can't hurt Filoni's favorite OC.It's dumb, it's _so, so_ dumb.
Grevious was injured after the 2003 version, as shown by his voice modulator and cough, and even then he didn't have to try very hard. If this was 2003 it'd truly be a horror movie
@@ordgaming4189 The 2003 is a spread of different moments in the Clone Wars. Grievous was wounded by Mace Windu while kidnapping Palpatine right before ROTS. During the entirety of TCW, he should be in peak condition until the Battle of Coruscant
No doubt this was after Grevious had destroyed the Nightsisters temple - I like to imagine one of his magnaguards having a spare cape on hand whenever Grevious needs the menancing drip
I really love the slight revamped design of Grievous in the late Star Wars animations, and both the brutal efficiency and the sadistic glee he feels while slaughtering everybody on sight is what I would have loved to watch in earlier Clone Wars
I’m amazed how this massacre is the only actual achievement ever shown by Lucas about Grevious. As basically this guy is like super powerful and with the best droids under his command, but somehow he always lose
I love how this makes you feel bad for the Nightsisters, yet I bet most people were rooting against them when they almost killed Count Dooku in the Clone Wars series
Eh, they're ok Too magicky for my tastes. And also a sadistic villainous sect of sexist bullies who treat their men like cattle and, of course, worship the darkside and Mother Talzin who was kinda horrific and selfish. Ok it was nice that they didnt feel the need to spread misery to everyone like the Sith, but they were far from protagonistic and not much better than Grievous. But they def had moments of being pretty badass
Outnumbered like 30 to 1 by an actual military using actual military grade weapons with heavy support Shot dem laser bows though. I guess you may as well die fighting, Grevious seemed to be in a genocidy mood so its not like hit and run would have done much more than buy a bit of time
THIS is the Grevious and Droid Army I LOVE! They destroy EVERYTHING! They're horrifying! You know when you see them, there is no escape, only death. They're surrounding you, overwhelming all your defenses, as they were meant to do.
This is _almost_ perfect. I'd have liked to see more nods to the Hypori duel: Grievous should've just Goomba stomped the first Sister, and he should've fought more of them than just Selena, using their own weapons and the environment as much as his sabers. I'd have liked to see him mock Selena _before_ killing her. "Run? _Run?_ There is _no_ escape! *Kills Selena* You will only prolong the inevitable!"
I agree with your other points, it would have been really threatening and cool to see him take down more Nighstsisters, but here in this scene it serves to make him far more menacing when he does not speak until he has had his fun with Selena and is taunting Morgan, while just utterly enjoying the carnage he is wrecking. It makes him more psychotic and menacing like he is supposed to be, basically a slasher villain. One of the many many issues I have with the 2008 Clone Wars Grievous is that he just babbles way too much, and mostly just generic arrogant bad guy stuff. Like cmon man stfu for two seconds. Grievous is supposed to be a cold and psychopathic reaper and a tactical commander.
@@boush1177 08 Grievous is a symptom of Dave Filoni's greatest flaw as a writer: he's _really_ bad at writing villains (Mando and Ahsoka suffer from the same issue).
That’s what I’m talking about finally the shitty nerf has been lifted from grievous, this is what he should have been like for all the clone wars and ROTS
I think he did ok in the Clone wars, far from the cartoon one where he was a walking WMD but generally, as long as he wasnt fighting ferking Obi-Wan, he had quite a few victories and got shit done. Its just that he was pro at actually running away and tended to do so the second he lost the advantage, making him look like of pathetic. It wasnt a glorious style of fighting, but by the end of the war Grievous had made some real dents in the amount of Jedi masters there were in the galaxy and, as seen here, did a fair share of genociding. Shit like struggling with Ahsoka or being overwhelmed by fking Gungans aside... that shit was more like comedy
'Ar!' 'No!' 'Ar!' Fking over and over and over, just the whole squad emptying clip after clip into them. Real beasts, nice to see their tanky side back
I hope that one day they did something like this with Darth Vader and Imperial-era 501st. I've had enough with "offscreen genocide by the Empire" like Rebels, Mandalorian, and Boba Fett shows did. What is it that makes Disney/LF so afraid to show the Empire at the height of its power and cruelty?
To be fair Darth Sidious especially wanted to exterminate the Nightsisters because Mother Talzin was powerful enough to rival him. So whether Ventress left before or not, Darth Sidious would still have exterminated them
Star Wars has a tendency to make magic and force stuff stronger than tech stuff, so it was nice that Greivous attacked purely with droids and technology and overcame a powerful magic society. Enough droids and blasters just works, gets the job done, fancy magical incantations arent the be all and end all of the Star Wars galaxy
Rather bad match up for the witches, they could use a strong combination of magiks, poisons, and stealth against sentient life forms. Droids proved how terrifying they are when they are locked in
Was wäre wenn Ahsoka Tano es Geschafft hätte 1 Stunde vor der Order 66 auf Coresant an zu kommen ? ( in Star Wars The Clone Wars Staffel 7 Letzte Folge ) Wie hätte es aus gesehen wenn Ahsoka Tano Obiwan und Anakin begleitet hätte um den Kantsler zu Retten auf General Grievous Flaggschiff ? ( Hätte Ahsoka Tano die Hinrichtung von Count Dooku verhindern können ? )
@@lemagicbaguette1917 Look at Feyd Rautha in Dune Part 2. Never laughed, and yet oozed sadism from every pore. Having a character laugh all the time is just poor writing.
@@Cold-Blooded-Jay that's why I included the moderation point. Laughing and mockery is one way to portray sadism, but only if used sparingly. Otherwise, it comes off corny.
“I was a child when they attacked. An armoured warrior brandishing this, descended upon us and cut down my people. My sisters. Until I was left alone, with the dead.”
Merrin
Her and Morgan are two sides of the same coin: both survived the massacre. But one chose to use her power for good and find a new family while the other was driven right into working with terrible people and descending further into darkness.
@@neofulcrum5013good point u made there. Was sad to see Morgan go down a tyrant path while she could have been such a hero.
@@neofulcrum5013 He only lives for great idea. A future without hypocrite forceusers
....long live the separatist alliance
@@neofulcrum5013Morgan will have her downfall soon as well the Time will come.
the way he mocks her groans in pain and her pleading for her kid to run, THIS is the general grevious ive read about, a psychopathic robot general, who fucking loves doing his job
I love every second this sadistic cyborg is on screen.
Interestingly it’s a kind of sadism I can tolerate, at least given the distance of the 4th wall.
Kind of like Death’s famous ‘Pick it up.’ moment it’s revelling in their desperate hope, letting them think they have an impossible chance and snuffing it out. To see the moment that hope dies as they realise that chance they thought they had was them being toyed with.
It’s relishing and revelling in one’s superiority and the futility of the other.
Compare that to Sideous’ preferred form of sadism where he just makes people miserable and kills them slowly because it tickles his wrinkled sack or something.
I digress, I prefer this sort of indulgent emotional cruelty in a villain than I do one who just hurts people to get their rocks off.
The former has an element of pride and personal satisfaction in themself that affirms something about their character, the other is just depraved.
@@rustkarlngl I just love seeing a villain having a good time being as evil as he can
Same
This is the droid army i love. Relentless advance with overwhelming numbers, firepower and heavy armor crushing the frontline.
Tbh that was the separatists advantage was having overwhelming numbers & Firepower, especially against clones who are better trained and just overall better warriors & Thinkers than droids
And still most advanced comando droid can't take care of one child
@@user-rv7kk1to9h to be fair she was taken care of till the plot armour from Disney
The nightsister only lost because didnt believe in the power of one.. the power of two.. the power of many!!!!
@@Skeptic_Tank no she lost because she wasn’t a gungan 🗿 u can ruin the savagery of this scene by remembering how he was so easily humiliated and captured by gungans
Is it bad I’m rooting for the psychotic cyborg to wipe them all out?
At least he makes genocide an art form.
We saw in clone wars they were evil and sexist so go ahead, FOR THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE
I would hardly call the Nightsisters evil
@@EJAXK13💀
Don’t forget about their brutal rituals they do on the males. Like making savage kill his brother.
Finally: no plot armor to nerf Grievous.
Plot armor?
@@jonathancharron7360
You know: Ahsoka tano, Obi wan Kenobi, Kit Fisto, Assaij Ventress. They were supposed to survive, so plot armor it is.
"Yay a battle without fuuuuucking Obi-Wan kenobi wrecking my day"
Honestly if Obi-Wan isnt involved, Greivous' chances of actually being good triple immediately
“Wipe them out. All of them.”
-Palpatine, The Phantom Menace
"Wipe them out. All of them" - General Grievous, Tales of the Empire.
It’s like they plagiarized on their own work lol
Lol I understood that reference.
"Wipe them out. All of them."
-Count Dooku, The Clone Wars
@@ChristopherNFoster, when did he say that?
Love how this scene hits most of the same beats from his first appearance in 2003.
Starting with the group being tactically outmanoeuvred by droids.
A crushing front of B1 and B2 battle droids forcing them into Grievous, who then has them flanked by commando droids while they’re focused on him.
And that’s before he brutally dismantles their leader in top form that we haven’t seen from him in over a decade, like something out of a slasher horror film he’s unstoppable.
My only complaint is he only had one real opponent, Selena. We should've seen him duel more swordsisters, cutting them down until it was just her, before finishing her off.
I love how finally how the battle droids actually seem like a threat.
Even the B1s!
My favorite army finally gets some attention!
Wow, Grievous isn't losing to Gungans or allowing padawans to escape. Look what happens when you make your villain dangerous.
Well he technically allows boy to escape. And u know comando droids so silly they cant even take down a child.
Clone Wars is good, but watching this scene makes me feel robbed. I wish Grevious went this hard in the tv show.
I so agree. It wouldn't have been hard to just make him much more menacing back then and give more scenes where he's taking Ws. They should be able to see how much people love his portrayal here, or anything similar to the 2003 one
It's a big problem of the Clone Wars show as the CIS is simply not threatening enough and taking constant Ls but for some fucking reason some cat-slavers are capable of bringing down Obi-Wan and Anakin.
TCW is _not_ good largely because of how idiotic it makes its antagonists. I cannot take its version of Grievous seriously as any kind of galactic threat.
I watched the early seasons of 2008 Clone Wars at an impressionable age, but upon watching the series again as an adult I have come to realise just from how utterly mediocre to downright bad most of the show is. It has some good moments and episodes here and there, sure, but almost every portrayal of the CIS is just outright dreadful with how buffoony, incompetent, and comically useless and unthreatening the droids and the CIS are.
Most villain of the week commanders are just pure cringe, and the droids have way too many comedy moments to take them seriously as the murder bots they are supposed to be. The CIS cannot be taken seriously as a galactic military force, they are so incompetent and weak.
Grievous was absolutely dreadful for the most part, being just a constantly babbling and arrogant but weak punching bag who has to run away from most fights. Hell, the show even found a way to ruin Count Dooku by turning him into an utterly ridiculous caricature dry old tart, without any of the background motivations and misguided view that he is supposed to have. Dooku is supposed to be an evil man who still has an honour code and thinks he is using the side of Sith and evil for doing the "right thing", but in the Clone Wars he is just this utterly alien caricature.
Even the supposedly "good" Umbra arc is just purely underwhelming with how utterly ridiculously one-dimensional and flat-out "lol random evil" they made Pong Krell out to be, and the Clones can't ever really learn anything from the experience and nothing ever changes after it is over.
Then don't get me started on the Order 66 retcon... with all these and much more I could go on but I don't want to, not now.
@@boush1177 Umbara is so dumb. Pong Krell thinks getting a couple squads of clones to friendly fire each other is going to be enough to get Dooku to let him defect? That's absurd. At _minimum_ it should've been turning the planet over to the Confederacy. 30 clones are small change compared to an entire system.
My biggest issue with Order 66 is the inhibitor chips, since they undermine _everything_ every writer had been trying to get across about the clones...and to make matters worse, every single clone _except_ Rex is immediately under their thrall, because Rex can't hurt Filoni's favorite OC.It's dumb, it's _so, so_ dumb.
The Nightsisters should be grateful that it wasn't the 2003 version of Grievous that faced them.
He was very close to that version here.
He was going easy on them here
Grevious was injured after the 2003 version, as shown by his voice modulator and cough, and even then he didn't have to try very hard.
If this was 2003 it'd truly be a horror movie
@@ordgaming4189 The 2003 is a spread of different moments in the Clone Wars. Grievous was wounded by Mace Windu while kidnapping Palpatine right before ROTS. During the entirety of TCW, he should be in peak condition until the Battle of Coruscant
That generic piece of metallic garbage isn't General Grievous
No doubt this was after Grevious had destroyed the Nightsisters temple - I like to imagine one of his magnaguards having a spare cape on hand whenever Grevious needs the menancing drip
This is after destroying the temple under dooku orders who was being possessed by mother talzin
No, he returned to his ship, got his spare cape, and proceeded to continue committing genocide.
When CIS isn't fighting Plot Armor
Plot armor?
I bet Matthew Wood had a BALL playing Grievous again. He sounds like he's having a ton of fun going psycho.
0:34 me playing republic comando for the first time and bumping into a super battle droid
100% those motherfuckers were tough and scary as hell
I really love the slight revamped design of Grievous in the late Star Wars animations, and both the brutal efficiency and the sadistic glee he feels while slaughtering everybody on sight is what I would have loved to watch in earlier Clone Wars
1:34 general grevious is the strongest cyborg.
2003 Grievous: "Let me introduce myself..."
0:36 their armor is so inconsistent throughout Star Wars💀
They’re only one shot when the plot wants them to be
That’s plot convenience my friend
At least there description said they have a stronger armor need like a lot of shots to take them down they say while a sword or saber one strike done
@@Godzilla5675, lightsabers are stronger than laser bolts
@@pop-culturecinephile8144 agreed
Its not that hard to see them tank shots clones make against them when compared to B1s
I could listen to Grievous laughing while killing his enemies for hours, it's such a joyful laugh. x')
I’m amazed how this massacre is the only actual achievement ever shown by Lucas about Grevious. As basically this guy is like super powerful and with the best droids under his command, but somehow he always lose
HELL YEAH BABY THAT'S MY GOAT RIGHT THERE
THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT! THE GOAT!
I love how this makes you feel bad for the Nightsisters, yet I bet most people were rooting against them when they almost killed Count Dooku in the Clone Wars series
I was always rooting FOR the Nightsisters, never against them
I was rooting against the nightsisters before the tried to kill dooku, this was kind of cathartic
I still don’t feel bad about them.
Eh, they're ok
Too magicky for my tastes. And also a sadistic villainous sect of sexist bullies who treat their men like cattle and, of course, worship the darkside and Mother Talzin who was kinda horrific and selfish.
Ok it was nice that they didnt feel the need to spread misery to everyone like the Sith, but they were far from protagonistic and not much better than Grievous. But they def had moments of being pretty badass
0:34 I love this scene which highlights the relentless advance of the super battle droid who takes it as if nothing had happened.
Grevious putting in work for the C.I.S 🔥
Employee of the month! Wat wat! Fk you Trench, Grevious is back on the board baby!
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Facts 🔥🔥🔥🔥
"Stand your ground"
Not the best plan ma'am, brave though
Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
There’s a reason you are *running*
Outnumbered like 30 to 1 by an actual military using actual military grade weapons with heavy support
Shot dem laser bows though. I guess you may as well die fighting, Grevious seemed to be in a genocidy mood so its not like hit and run would have done much more than buy a bit of time
THIS is the Grevious and Droid Army I LOVE! They destroy EVERYTHING! They're horrifying! You know when you see them, there is no escape, only death. They're surrounding you, overwhelming all your defenses, as they were meant to do.
This is _almost_ perfect. I'd have liked to see more nods to the Hypori duel: Grievous should've just Goomba stomped the first Sister, and he should've fought more of them than just Selena, using their own weapons and the environment as much as his sabers. I'd have liked to see him mock Selena _before_ killing her. "Run? _Run?_ There is _no_ escape! *Kills Selena* You will only prolong the inevitable!"
I agree with your other points, it would have been really threatening and cool to see him take down more Nighstsisters, but here in this scene it serves to make him far more menacing when he does not speak until he has had his fun with Selena and is taunting Morgan, while just utterly enjoying the carnage he is wrecking. It makes him more psychotic and menacing like he is supposed to be, basically a slasher villain.
One of the many many issues I have with the 2008 Clone Wars Grievous is that he just babbles way too much, and mostly just generic arrogant bad guy stuff. Like cmon man stfu for two seconds. Grievous is supposed to be a cold and psychopathic reaper and a tactical commander.
@@boush1177 08 Grievous is a symptom of Dave Filoni's greatest flaw as a writer: he's _really_ bad at writing villains (Mando and Ahsoka suffer from the same issue).
That’s what I’m talking about finally the shitty nerf has been lifted from grievous, this is what he should have been like for all the clone wars and ROTS
I think he did ok in the Clone wars, far from the cartoon one where he was a walking WMD but generally, as long as he wasnt fighting ferking Obi-Wan, he had quite a few victories and got shit done.
Its just that he was pro at actually running away and tended to do so the second he lost the advantage, making him look like of pathetic. It wasnt a glorious style of fighting, but by the end of the war Grievous had made some real dents in the amount of Jedi masters there were in the galaxy and, as seen here, did a fair share of genociding.
Shit like struggling with Ahsoka or being overwhelmed by fking Gungans aside... that shit was more like comedy
Someone: How many times you've watched this?
Me: Yes
Repulbic Commando B2s be like: 0:34
Get some bacta delta
'Ar!' 'No!' 'Ar!'
Fking over and over and over, just the whole squad emptying clip after clip into them. Real beasts, nice to see their tanky side back
"Run Nightsister, Run, you have only prolong your doom."
They should have played his theme here.
Either one; there are edits giving him his '03 theme but I like what Williams wrote for the character as well.
More. More of this Disney.
I hope that one day they did something like this with Darth Vader and Imperial-era 501st. I've had enough with "offscreen genocide by the Empire" like Rebels, Mandalorian, and Boba Fett shows did.
What is it that makes Disney/LF so afraid to show the Empire at the height of its power and cruelty?
This is one of the few times where Grievous actually lived up to his terrifying reputation.
Dang that was dark….i love it!
Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch.
god, I love those feet grabs!
I love the Nightsisters so this hurt to watch but it was so cool at the same time.
Imagine a Total War game with all the Star Wars Factions including Night sisters, imagine to command the droid army with grievous this way.
Ventress should have quit while she was ahead... Now it seems like her entire culture and people are now paying the price.
To be fair Darth Sidious especially wanted to exterminate the Nightsisters because Mother Talzin was powerful enough to rival him.
So whether Ventress left before or not, Darth Sidious would still have exterminated them
Just like me fr
Facts brother, so true my friend.
No dude, Grievous is literally me
Holy fuck, this grevious is TERRIFYING
The return of 2003 Grievous.
Star Wars has a tendency to make magic and force stuff stronger than tech stuff, so it was nice that Greivous attacked purely with droids and technology and overcame a powerful magic society. Enough droids and blasters just works, gets the job done, fancy magical incantations arent the be all and end all of the Star Wars galaxy
Can this guy have his own series yet? Please.
Finally gave Grievous some well-earned respect
A witch named Selena… wonder if Dave Filoni is a Wizards Of Waverly Place fan
Lol
How it feels to fight on Malevelon Creek
Rather bad match up for the witches, they could use a strong combination of magiks, poisons, and stealth against sentient life forms. Droids proved how terrifying they are when they are locked in
Typical Grievous; never fights fair
Disney gave more respect to Grievous B2 and super battle droid more than Lucas and Felonii
So the fact the grievous is a total moron through the entire clone wars animation vs this Grevious proves they nerfed him after 2003.
Who woud win? Assasin comando droid or a scared child ?
RIP selena gomez
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Was wäre wenn Ahsoka Tano es Geschafft hätte 1 Stunde vor der Order 66 auf Coresant an zu kommen ? ( in Star Wars The Clone Wars Staffel 7 Letzte Folge )
Wie hätte es aus gesehen wenn Ahsoka Tano Obiwan und Anakin begleitet hätte um den Kantsler zu Retten auf General Grievous Flaggschiff ?
( Hätte Ahsoka Tano die Hinrichtung von Count Dooku verhindern können ? )
Just.... stop with the laughing. It isn't cool or intimidating.
You're right in that it isn't intimidating, but it does illustrate his sadistic nature. It should have been left only for the killing blow, though.
@@lemagicbaguette1917 Look at Feyd Rautha in Dune Part 2. Never laughed, and yet oozed sadism from every pore. Having a character laugh all the time is just poor writing.
@@Cold-Blooded-Jay that's why I included the moderation point. Laughing and mockery is one way to portray sadism, but only if used sparingly. Otherwise, it comes off corny.
It's pretty sadistic.
@@w1ndgeneral226 Sadistically annoying, fake, forced, and cliché.