the I-16 was the first single wing, fully retractable landing gear, and smooth outer design combat aircraft. it was the first of the great ww2 era fighters such as mustang and spitfire. the guy who designed it was in prison at the time! so it obviously all came from his mind.
advanced for its time are you high or something? it was garbage, just look how it did in Barbarossa, you give the communist way to much credit, where in the hell are the 109s in this film. They had a field day with this aircraft, nice commie propaganda, but who one the Spanish civil war? Just a question.
@Thane Mac how would have ww2 have happened at this time, the biggest reason the USSR lost 17 million people is because Stalin destroyed and didn't trust ANYONE that was an aircraft designer, only later did he assign trust, when it was way to late!
Privacy Advocate I hate communism and socialism, but that doesn’t mean everything they make is terrible. The I-16 was the words first all-metal minoring fighter, of course it’s going to be obsolete when WW2 rolled around, the fact it shit down any aircraft during the war I would say is a testament to the design. And the Yaks were some of the best fighters of the entire war!
In fact, the biggest problem with most Japanese warplanes during World War II was that they had inadequate armor protection and fuel tank protection, which mean if the plane gets hit it was a goner. That's why the A6M Zero often lost to the supposedly inferior F4F Wildcat because the Wildcat had more firepower and would withstand the firepower of a Zero a lot longer.
@lumiiv, The Dayton Wright RB-1 of 1920 and the Verville Sperry R-3 of 1922 had retractable gear. The I-16 was the first mass produced fighter with retractable landing gear. I-16 was great!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shown fighters are all of I-16 type 5. Its M-25 engine has a cowlflap with 9 frontal holes for its 9 cyllinders cooling. And 9 shutters united in a second disc were turned by the pilot from the cockpit to set the suitable temperature conditions for an engine.
What made the I-16 a surprisingly good plane for its time was it could fight on equal terms with the Mitsubishi A5M and Nakajima Ki-27 fighter, an amazing feat considering how amazingly maneuverable the Japanese fighters were. The I-16 was strongly built and the Japanese fighter pilots found the I-16 hard to shoot down for this reason.
In fact, I-16's flown by the Nationalist Chinese in the late 1930's often bested the A5M and Ki-27 simply by just out-zooming them and getting into a "vertical fight." Also, the Japanese planes were quite vulnerable to the 20 mm ShVAK cannons, too. The Japanese got their superiority back with the A6M "Zero," which was much faster than the I-16.
Thank you for your interest. This film reminds me of my childhood, when I learned what humain courage could look like... After landing - pilot of #10 to his mechanic: "Comrade technician! Why you have shutters moving tightly? This is no good! Watch it over!". Pilots are leaving and then - mechanic of #1 to mechanic of #10: "Comrade Chashin! Shutters are moving with difficulty! You should watch it over!".
I like how the plane was flying right alongside the train (at a 3/4 view no less) and the passengers were waving to the nice pilot. So the train was either suddenly going over 100 mph or the plane was going under 40. Great effects. Seriously, though- these were cool little planes and I love to fly them in the IL-2 series of PC simulators.
A fun plane to fly in IL-2 Great Battle series. However it's one of those birds where you have to keep your hand on the stick at ALL times. Very maneuverable BUT it's speed is slow by 1942 standards. Plus going up against the BF109 Gustavs is a challenge . Sadly the BF109Gs can call the shots in the duel. That is they can engage at will disengage or leave you be (They got the speed and firepower unfortunately)..
Service trials of the new I-16 fighter began in 3-1934. M-22 prototype reached 359 kmh/223 mph. M-22 powered TsKB-12 first took to the air in 12-1933 with the famous test pilot V. Chkalov.
@lumiiv. P-26 was state of the art when it was first produced, & the Soviets did indeed use copies of Wright Cyclone etc. engines & copied &/or were influended by designs from OPs just as everyone else does. Bothe P-26 & I-16 also had their design influenced by 1930's racing planes. Yes, 6-months is enough time to develope a prototype whether it is or is not influenced by or copied from another design. USSR developed the SU-152 in about 2-3 moths or so.
@perlghost, " While working on the Polikarpov I-15 biplane, Nikolai Nikolaevich Polikarpov began designing an advanced monoplane fighter. It featured cutting-edge innovations such as retractable landing gear and a fully enclosed cockpit, and was optimized for speed with a short stubby fuselage (similar to Gee Bee R-1) and a Wright Cyclone radial engine in a NACA cowling. " From the same source you used. Everyone copies things to some degree, & I use 'copy' to = influence.
The 2nd I-16/Cyclone engine & 3-bladed propeller flew in Jan. of the following year. Trials in 2-1934 revealed very good maneuverability but the aircraft did not tolerate abrupt control inputs - the plane was deemed dangerous & all aerobatics were forbidden. M-22 version was preferred due to vibration of the Cyclone version
@lumiiv, In 1923 the XPS-Dayton-Wright 1 was an American single-seat fighter interceptor aircraft built by the Dayton-Wright Airplane Company & it had retractable landing gear like the Dayton Wright RB-1 of 1920. XPS-Dayton-Wright 1 had a speed of 146mph but its performance was poor so it wasn't mass produced. Not bad for 1920 - 1923 though.
The Bf-109 ever shot down in combat was by Frank Tinker, an USAer (American), flying an I-16 for Republican Spain in 1937 at the Battle of Brunete, & he got another Bf-109B later.
@lumiiv The later Polykarpov I-15 biplanes had retractable landing gear. I've seen both the I-15 and the I-16 (Wanaka, in New Zealand) and there is no doubt in my mind that, although it is a big step forward, the I-16 is a development of the I-15.
Oh by the way the North American P-51 Mustang was powerd by an licence build rolls royce Merlin engine. What does that make out of this all american fighter? An copy of the Hurican?
I wonder where this I-16 is a copy of the P-26 stuff comes from. The only thing they have in common is that they bouth are open cockpit monoplanes and thats it. When it comes to engines: prototype was powered by the M-22 wich is an copy of the british Jupiter engine, the I-16 typ 5 was powered by imported!! Cyclones WIch in later series where lizens build. Note: licens build not copied. The Spitfire and the Mustang also had a lot in comon and noone ever called the Mustang a copy of the spit.
If the polykarpov was a copy of anything, I would say it copied the Gee-Bee racers more than anything for it's short design and speed. However, the fact that it was the first plane to have retractible wheels, via a hand crank, still puts it ahead of the P-26.
@christof139 also they knew they had little resources and little metal as it was. the navy ships took most of that. even Yamamoto said that Japan only had enough resources to fight effectively for little more than a year, if they hadn't conquered enough during that time the war would be lost.
Yes, the zeros were superior, but their speed advantage was only 57 km/h against the late i16s. Maneuverability and armament were comparable but i16 could survive more hits. According to Wiki, Zero of 1940 had the top speed of 525 kmh at 4550 m, i16
Good footage of a fine, under appreciated airplane. Polikarpov fell out of favor with Stalin when Stalins' favorite test pilot was killed flying a later Polikarpov prototype. That's when Yak, LaGG, & MiG stepped in.
The main reason Japanese planes had little or no armor during the early years was because they chose to keep the weight down to benefit manueverability & range.
Really?! Then where for example the I-16's retractable landing gear is copied from? Before you start googling - I-16 was the first ever mass-produced fighter with retractable gear.
So Cool! Thanks for this post. I really dig the idea that they would hang two ram jet engines on this plane to get even more speed and a higher clime rate from this design. Patent 3190554, 672256, 3013505 .
My grandpa fought on one of these against the Ki27s. I16 was superior once the pilot mastered its advantage of speed and refused to play the horizontal maneuver game.
The only thing that is remotely correct about any of this is that the Shvetsov M-62 powering the I-16 was a license built version of the Wright R-1820. Everything else is utter nonsense.
"I-16 copied from Boeing P-26... " Wow! What a discovery. How then you'd explaing this discrepancy: "The [P-26] prototype first flew in 1932" "Full scale work on the TsKB-12 [i-16] prototype began in June 1933 and the aircraft was accepted into production on 22 November 1933" Or you think that it's possible to create fully flyable plane just in 6 months? Should I remind you also that P-26 was all-metall and I-16 was not? They didn't even look similar. And why copy s* P-26 not for example A6M?
@perlghost, Ha ha ! Western experts = Soviet experts! Everyone copies form everyone else. However, the fact is that the I-15 & I6 & older USA P-26 were derived form the Bee-Gee type racing planes, & the Wright Cyclone etc. series of engines were used & copeid & modified by many nations. USA Chritie tank was the grandpa of the BT series, & from the BT series came the T-34 series, with the later BTs, T-34s, & KVs using a fine aluminum block etc. German BMW engine. Variety is the spice of life
One COULD say that the Mustang IS a "copy" of the Spitfire. But that's how technology advances, people need to get over it. Someone makes a good invention or machine, it's a NATURAL, and WISE thing to take this good idea and improve on it. There are very, very few instances of true, independent invention. "Standing on the shoulders of giants", etc. When Russia invented the excellent AK47 (based on the Germans idea), the US was afraid to LOOK like they "copied them", and so came the inferior M16.
Lord Walder Frey When WW2 started these were already obsolete, however in their prime they were on pair and very often greatly outperforming other fighters.
+Lord Walder Frey Far from it. Although obsolescent, they could outmanoeuvre the 109. The German pilots got a shock, though not as big a shock as in 1940, when the 109 met the Spitfire.
+Lord Walder Frey The first Bf109 shot down ever was by a I-16 in the Spanish Civil War. German pilots also noted that it wasn't the planes themselves that were the weakness of the early Soviet air force, but rather their outdated tactics and pilots fighting individually rather than as a team. Used in the infamous mid-air ramming attacks they proved their ruggedness however and at extremely low altitute they were difficult to intercept.
+galdramadur1 Well, maybe just for the fact that the enemy had a fighter which was every bit as good as theirs? It is said that Spitfire and Bf-109 were so comparable that it really came down to pilot skill. Hurricane was clearly inferior though (probably roughly comparable to the I-16), and that's why during Battle of Britain Spits would tackle the escorting fighters while Hurricanes went for the bombers, given any choice.
One of my favorite Russian planes . First mono plane in the world with retractable landing gear. Thanks for posting . God Bless
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the I-16 was the first single wing, fully retractable landing gear, and smooth outer design combat aircraft. it was the first of the great ww2 era fighters such as mustang and spitfire. the guy who designed it was in prison at the time! so it obviously all came from his mind.
Unbelievably advanced aircraft for its time, and a real handful.
advanced for its time are you high or something? it was garbage, just look how it did in Barbarossa, you give the communist way to much credit, where in the hell are the 109s in this film. They had a field day with this aircraft, nice commie propaganda, but who one the Spanish civil war? Just a question.
Nice joke
@Thane Mac how would have ww2 have happened at this time, the biggest reason the USSR lost 17 million people is because Stalin destroyed and didn't trust ANYONE that was an aircraft designer, only later did he assign trust, when it was way to late!
How the fuck would you know that it was a handful?
Privacy Advocate I hate communism and socialism, but that doesn’t mean everything they make is terrible. The I-16 was the words first all-metal minoring fighter, of course it’s going to be obsolete when WW2 rolled around, the fact it shit down any aircraft during the war I would say is a testament to the design. And the Yaks were some of the best fighters of the entire war!
I just realized that the engine sound is being played by a trombone lol both genius and strange at the same time
In fact, the biggest problem with most Japanese warplanes during World War II was that they had inadequate armor protection and fuel tank protection, which mean if the plane gets hit it was a goner. That's why the A6M Zero often lost to the supposedly inferior F4F Wildcat because the Wildcat had more firepower and would withstand the firepower of a Zero a lot longer.
i love this plane
I remember flying it in IL-2 Sturmovik
@lumiiv, The Dayton Wright RB-1 of 1920 and the Verville Sperry R-3 of 1922 had retractable gear. The I-16 was the first mass produced fighter with retractable landing gear. I-16 was great!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you for posting this! This is one of my favorite planes.
Shown fighters are all of I-16 type 5. Its M-25 engine has a cowlflap with 9 frontal holes for its 9 cyllinders cooling. And 9 shutters united in a second disc were turned by the pilot from the cockpit to set the suitable temperature conditions for an engine.
What made the I-16 a surprisingly good plane for its time was it could fight on equal terms with the Mitsubishi A5M and Nakajima Ki-27 fighter, an amazing feat considering how amazingly maneuverable the Japanese fighters were. The I-16 was strongly built and the Japanese fighter pilots found the I-16 hard to shoot down for this reason.
Khalkin gol?
In fact, I-16's flown by the Nationalist Chinese in the late 1930's often bested the A5M and Ki-27 simply by just out-zooming them and getting into a "vertical fight." Also, the Japanese planes were quite vulnerable to the 20 mm ShVAK cannons, too. The Japanese got their superiority back with the A6M "Zero," which was much faster than the I-16.
Thank you for your interest. This film reminds me of my childhood, when I learned what humain courage could look like... After landing - pilot of #10 to his mechanic: "Comrade technician! Why you have shutters moving tightly? This is no good! Watch it over!". Pilots are leaving and then - mechanic of #1 to mechanic of #10: "Comrade Chashin! Shutters are moving with difficulty! You should watch it over!".
I like how the plane was flying right alongside the train (at a 3/4 view no less) and the passengers were waving to the nice pilot. So the train was either suddenly going over 100 mph or the plane was going under 40. Great effects. Seriously, though- these were cool little planes and I love to fly them in the IL-2 series of PC simulators.
that plane is the most evil one in war thunder
A fun plane to fly in IL-2 Great Battle series.
However it's one of those birds where you have to keep your hand on the stick at ALL times. Very maneuverable BUT
it's speed is slow by 1942 standards. Plus going up against the BF109 Gustavs is a challenge . Sadly the BF109Gs can call the shots in the duel. That is they can engage at will disengage or leave you be (They got the speed and firepower unfortunately)..
Service trials of the new I-16 fighter began in 3-1934. M-22 prototype reached 359 kmh/223 mph. M-22 powered TsKB-12 first took to the air in 12-1933 with the famous test pilot V. Chkalov.
Emils did show up in Spain.
2. Staffel of Jagdgruppe 88 just signed for their E-1s as the war was ending, but too late to see any action, however.
@lumiiv. P-26 was state of the art when it was first produced, & the Soviets did indeed use copies of Wright Cyclone etc. engines & copied &/or were influended by designs from OPs just as everyone else does. Bothe P-26 & I-16 also had their design influenced by 1930's racing planes. Yes, 6-months is enough time to develope a prototype whether it is or is not influenced by or copied from another design. USSR developed the SU-152 in about 2-3 moths or so.
@perlghost, " While working on the Polikarpov I-15 biplane, Nikolai Nikolaevich Polikarpov began designing an advanced monoplane fighter. It featured cutting-edge innovations such as retractable landing gear and a fully enclosed cockpit, and was optimized for speed with a short stubby fuselage (similar to Gee Bee R-1) and a Wright Cyclone radial engine in a NACA cowling. " From the same source you used. Everyone copies things to some degree, & I use 'copy' to = influence.
I like the film and I-16 fighter.
The sounds of the engines are so soothing.
@perlghost, Yes a plane can be designed & flown in 6-months.
The 2nd I-16/Cyclone engine & 3-bladed propeller flew in Jan. of the following year. Trials in 2-1934 revealed very good maneuverability but the aircraft did not tolerate abrupt control inputs - the plane was deemed dangerous & all aerobatics were forbidden. M-22 version was preferred due to vibration of the Cyclone version
@lumiiv, In 1923 the XPS-Dayton-Wright 1 was an American single-seat fighter interceptor aircraft built by the Dayton-Wright Airplane Company & it had retractable landing gear like the Dayton Wright RB-1 of 1920. XPS-Dayton-Wright 1 had a speed of 146mph but its performance was poor so it wasn't mass produced. Not bad for 1920 - 1923 though.
i think the body was inspired by GeeBee,speed record airplane
Thank you kindly for your translation, my friend.
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Este aparato fue mucho más importante para España que para la Unión Soviética.Historia pura.
The Bf-109 ever shot down in combat was by Frank Tinker, an USAer (American), flying an I-16 for Republican Spain in 1937 at the Battle of Brunete, & he got another Bf-109B later.
Whats that you say Polikarpov? Timmys stuck in the well? "Dakka Dakka!!" Good boy Polikarpov
@lumiiv The later Polykarpov I-15 biplanes had retractable landing gear. I've seen both the I-15 and the I-16 (Wanaka, in New Zealand) and there is no doubt in my mind that, although it is a big step forward, the I-16 is a development of the I-15.
Because it's not great quality audio (due to it being old - not a complaint) it sounds like a lawn mower! XD
Oh by the way the North American P-51 Mustang was powerd by an licence build rolls royce Merlin engine. What does that make out of this all american fighter? An copy of the Hurican?
I wonder where this I-16 is a copy of the P-26 stuff comes from. The only thing they have in common is that they bouth are open cockpit monoplanes and thats it.
When it comes to engines: prototype was powered by the M-22 wich is an copy of the british Jupiter engine, the I-16 typ 5 was powered by imported!! Cyclones WIch in later series where lizens build. Note: licens build not copied.
The Spitfire and the Mustang also had a lot in comon and noone ever called the Mustang a copy of the spit.
Класс! Что за фильм?
Wow that was a close one!
Ну и дела! Парень да ты что, это же культовый фильм тридцатых: "Истребители", об это в аннотации написано по англицки.
If the polykarpov was a copy of anything, I would say it copied the Gee-Bee racers more than anything for it's short design and speed. However, the fact that it was the first plane to have retractible wheels, via a hand crank, still puts it ahead of the P-26.
@christof139
also they knew they had little resources and little metal as it was. the navy ships took most of that. even Yamamoto said that Japan only had enough resources to fight effectively for little more than a year, if they hadn't conquered enough during that time the war would be lost.
That train did'nt seem to have any trouble stopping instanly!
Beautiful plane
The moviemakers, want to say that the airplain was flying with the same speed of a train w/o falling from the sky?
a truly great film..historically very important
I WAS FLYING CSS-13 MODIFICATION OF PO-2 FROM 1926. IT WAS VERY DEMANDING FROM PILOT LANDING SKILLS.
Yes, the zeros were superior, but their speed advantage was only 57 km/h against the late i16s. Maneuverability and armament were comparable but i16 could survive more hits.
According to Wiki, Zero of 1940 had the top speed of 525 kmh at 4550 m, i16
Good footage of a fine, under appreciated airplane. Polikarpov fell out of favor with Stalin when Stalins' favorite test pilot was killed flying a later Polikarpov prototype. That's when Yak, LaGG, & MiG stepped in.
qual e o nome desse filme?, queria baixar ele.
If anyone is interested, this plane is flyable in DCS simulator
I would appreciate it if one of our Russian friends would translate the conversation after the pilot landed. Thanks most kindly.
That ending is not something you see every day.
An interesting footage.
The engine sound in established flight is false.
need this and other movies from USSR translated and distributed to USA for sales. please?
Кадры из фильма "Итрибители"
That shutters can be clearly seen at 0:14
The main reason Japanese planes had little or no armor during the early years was because they chose to keep the weight down to benefit manueverability & range.
I thought Lassie was flying that plane.
It did fare very well against the American-made Finnish-manned Brewster Buffalo during the Stalin's invasion of Finland in 1939.
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*Anything* would fare better than the Buffalo...
Really?! Then where for example the I-16's retractable landing gear is copied from? Before you start googling - I-16 was the first ever mass-produced fighter with retractable gear.
I'd love to see the whole film, with English dubbing or sub-titles.
some cool CGI!!
1:06 crazy plane
So Cool! Thanks for this post. I really dig the idea that they would hang two ram jet engines on this plane to get even more speed and a higher clime rate from this design. Patent 3190554, 672256, 3013505 .
My grandpa fought on one of these against the Ki27s. I16 was superior once the pilot mastered its advantage of speed and refused to play the horizontal maneuver game.
The only thing that is remotely correct about any of this is that the Shvetsov M-62 powering the I-16 was a license built version of the Wright R-1820. Everything else is utter nonsense.
look how it turns! show me the Messerschmitt that could do that!
that was a great plane
"I-16 copied from Boeing P-26... "
Wow! What a discovery. How then you'd explaing this discrepancy:
"The [P-26] prototype first flew in 1932"
"Full scale work on the TsKB-12 [i-16] prototype began in June 1933 and the aircraft was accepted into production on 22 November 1933"
Or you think that it's possible to create fully flyable plane just in 6 months? Should I remind you also that P-26 was all-metall and I-16 was not?
They didn't even look similar.
And why copy s* P-26 not for example A6M?
@perlghost, Ha ha ! Western experts = Soviet experts! Everyone copies form everyone else. However, the fact is that the I-15 & I6 & older USA P-26 were derived form the Bee-Gee type racing planes, & the Wright Cyclone etc. series of engines were used & copeid & modified by many nations. USA Chritie tank was the grandpa of the BT series, & from the BT series came the T-34 series, with the later BTs, T-34s, & KVs using a fine aluminum block etc. German BMW engine. Variety is the spice of life
One COULD say that the Mustang IS a "copy" of the Spitfire. But that's how technology advances, people need to get over it. Someone makes a good invention or machine, it's a NATURAL, and WISE thing to take this good idea and improve on it. There are very, very few instances of true, independent invention. "Standing on the shoulders of giants", etc. When Russia invented the excellent AK47 (based on the Germans idea), the US was afraid to LOOK like they "copied them", and so came the inferior M16.
Nice footage for sure, but sometimes it looked fake.
Real footage would be nicer than the B-movie special effects. This is silly.
My too
THE TRAIN KICKS ASS!
I-16 copied from Boeing P-26 Peashooter & racers, & the engine was a copy of one of the Wright Cyclone radials.
Tiene mejores efectos que DB Super xD
Flying lawn mowers !
OP as fuck
These cute planes were butchered by the BF 109s.
1:06
Are you kidding?? Thats the manoeuvrability of the machine??? Is like comparing the posibilities of a truck vs a bike!!!
It flies better than your English.
How this turkey can fly?
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Small size + big motor = flight
Worst soundtrack ever, cool plane though =)
И никакой компьютерной графики !
Haha, the I-16 saved the train lol. Gotta love the propaganda of the time (from all sides)
Bf 109s were duck shooting these easily
Lord Walder Frey When WW2 started these were already obsolete, however in their prime they were on pair and very often greatly outperforming other fighters.
+Lord Walder Frey Far from it. Although obsolescent, they could outmanoeuvre the 109. The German pilots got a shock, though not as big a shock as in 1940, when the 109 met the Spitfire.
+Lord Walder Frey The first Bf109 shot down ever was by a I-16 in the Spanish Civil War.
German pilots also noted that it wasn't the planes themselves that were the weakness of the early Soviet air force, but rather their outdated tactics and pilots fighting individually rather than as a team. Used in the infamous mid-air ramming attacks they proved their ruggedness however and at extremely low altitute they were difficult to intercept.
+Colin McDonald Why should the germans got a shock when they met the Spit. This aircraft was good but not to good for the 109.
+galdramadur1 Well, maybe just for the fact that the enemy had a fighter which was every bit as good as theirs? It is said that Spitfire and Bf-109 were so comparable that it really came down to pilot skill. Hurricane was clearly inferior though (probably roughly comparable to the I-16), and that's why during Battle of Britain Spits would tackle the escorting fighters while Hurricanes went for the bombers, given any choice.
lol the hero of the civil war in spain? the I-16 got its ass handed to it by the 109 Emils
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Really bad fake aeroplane sounds.
@puchatekkubus123
bullcrap
The I-16 was a dog.