Several functions, ONE Messiah! - Messiah Son of Joseph - EP 14 - Case for Messiah

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  • Who is the Messiah son of Joseph? Was this a post temple concept or a promise found in scriptures? How does Jesus relate to this concept? Listen with us and SHARE this fascinating series on the Messiah son of Joseph!
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    Learn more about this subject in David C. Mitchell's book Messiah ben Joseph! www.amazon.com/Messiah-ben-Jo...

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  • @logicaredux5205
    @logicaredux5205 6 місяців тому +29

    Absolutely gobsmacked! “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” Daniel 12:4

  • @2or3ministry48
    @2or3ministry48 6 місяців тому +14

    Shalom
    Happy Hanukah at sunset.
    Got my first menorah this year. :)
    Yeshua the Master remembered The Maccabees.
    Being a follower of Him, I want to do what He did as much as possible.
    HalleluYah

    • @rapturebound197
      @rapturebound197 6 місяців тому

      Yes Happy Hanukah! iiiiIiiii 👍😉

  • @crisseven1764
    @crisseven1764 6 місяців тому +11

    It is interesting that Joshua and Caleb, the two who believed they can conquer the land, were from the tribes of Joseph and Judah, respectively.

  • @dailyoccasions9539
    @dailyoccasions9539 6 місяців тому +11

    At the end of the book of Daniel, it says knowledge will increase in the last days. Thank you for the revealing it’s like water to dry and thirsty soul. With what humanity is facing today, Jesus is our only hope and our peace.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 6 місяців тому

      The book of Daniel says knowledge will increase, but it didn't say anything about the knowledge of God increasing. That is a completely different thing altogether. Considering Daniel also speaks of transgressions coming to the full in the same period, it is clear that the "knowledge" that was prophesied to increase in Dan. 12 is NOT godly knowledge.

    • @user-fc2hb3de2w
      @user-fc2hb3de2w 3 місяці тому

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779 I believe BOTH types of knowledge are to increase.

  • @padillas4357
    @padillas4357 6 місяців тому +20

    I LOVE this series! ❤
    The key is to think of different people in the Bible as prophetic Types and Shadows. People like Joseph, Moses, and David have characteristics of the Messiah.

  • @lavernekane5174
    @lavernekane5174 6 місяців тому +18

    So glad/happy/ecstatic about this... the very first in all my 81 years have heard someone besides myself address Mary's connection to the Levites... you tied together so many quandries.. I always thought Johosphat messed up when he joined his house to Ahab's. Loved this can't wait for the next episode!😂

  • @marygayquigley9672
    @marygayquigley9672 6 місяців тому +22

    WOW!!! This was BEAUTIFUL!!! Thank you for helping us dig even deeper into God's Word.🥰🥰🥰

  • @operafunopera
    @operafunopera 6 місяців тому +106

    Jesus is not just Messiah, for he's God.

    • @JoanoftheArk300
      @JoanoftheArk300 6 місяців тому +14

      Absolutely 💯 and Amen 🙏

    • @PennySmart
      @PennySmart 6 місяців тому +14

      The Bible shows that the Messiah is divine.

    • @JesseJudah144
      @JesseJudah144 6 місяців тому +10

      Who is Messiah's Abba he always spoke of, prayed to. How Elohiym anointed Yahusha of Nazareth with holy Spirit and power, who went about doing good healing all oppressed of the devil. GOD ALMIGHTY anointed Messiah. Even Peter declared Yahusha the Messiah - the Son of the Living God and Messiah told Peter, flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but my Abba or Father

    • @btbb3726
      @btbb3726 6 місяців тому +8

      “. . . they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him . . .”
      Zechariah 12:10 NASB
      👍🏻

    • @yl5020
      @yl5020 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@JesseJudah144Yeshua

  • @markimboden1958
    @markimboden1958 6 місяців тому +36

    This is an awesome teaching! Also fun to watch Seth and Golan’s reaction to new revelation that does not conflict with their understanding but adds new dimensions to their understanding 😊

    • @rapturebound197
      @rapturebound197 6 місяців тому +2

      Yes. I think its having the same effect on most of us. 👍

    • @RaptureHead
      @RaptureHead 6 місяців тому +1

      Actually I found it confusing, and I felt he was trying to say that Joseph was also Jesus Christ s biological father, which is just not Biblical and I feel it’s like denying Christ s divinity, He was begotten of the Father, period., and a virgin, Mary, his mother.

    • @rapturebound197
      @rapturebound197 6 місяців тому +1

      @@RaptureHead perhaps listen to it again because that's not at all what he was saying. Yeshua had the DNA 🧬 of Joseph and David thru His mother.

    • @tydy5266
      @tydy5266 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@RaptureHeadMaybe you simply didn't understand. Messiah son of David and Messiah son of Joseph are simply references to the lineage and archetypes of the messiahs.
      Ben David is to rule as King David did, Ben Joseph is to suffer as Joseph did but the Messiah is a decendant of these two

    • @RaptureHead
      @RaptureHead 6 місяців тому +1

      @@tydy5266 oh I am sorry if I misunderstood the guest, I didn’t realize he was saying that it was a type, or foreshadow of Jesus Christ, I thought he was trying to insinuate that Jesus Christ was more human, DNA related as his reference to Joseph being Jesus father, it biologically this wasn’t the case, so if I misunderstood I am sorry for that and as I did state I was going to watch the continuation of the episode to get better clarification God bless you and thanks for clearing it up for me Amen🙏

  • @lawrencefox9225
    @lawrencefox9225 6 місяців тому +4

    I think that John chapter 1: 45 alludes to a position on the Messiah son of Joseph. "Philip found Nathanael and said to him, 'We have found Him of whom Moses wrote in the Law, and the prophets also wrote: Jesus the son of Joseph, from Nazareth!'”

  • @mariamcdaid2655
    @mariamcdaid2655 6 місяців тому +25

    I love these insights! Thank you One for Israel. Happy Hanukkah 🕎

  • @dellareesehartman1696
    @dellareesehartman1696 6 місяців тому +4

    I am always astounded by how much I learn watching these podcasts.
    Just beautiful

  • @padillas4357
    @padillas4357 6 місяців тому +7

    I have heard some Rabbis say that there is 2 Messiahs, and the 1st will rescue us physically, and the 2nd will rescue us spiritually. They are close, but still misunderstanding who the Messiah is and what He does. Yeshua (Jesus) came the 1st time to free us spiritually, and He will come the 2nd time to physically rule and reign as our savior King.

    • @marcellusdavenport
      @marcellusdavenport 6 місяців тому +1

      Don’t forget he’s going to rescue us physically 2nd as well … “harpozo”

    • @Natalia-nx5nu
      @Natalia-nx5nu 6 місяців тому

      The spirit maybe the Holy Ghost 🧐

    • @padillas4357
      @padillas4357 6 місяців тому +2

      @marcellusdavenport We do get rescued at the Rapture, but that is not the 2nd coming. The Rapture happens before the time of Jacob's Trouble (Great Tribulation), and the 2nd coming is at the end of this period and before the Millennial Reign. If you look at the actions of the events, then you can see that the Rapture and 2nd coming are 2 separate events.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@marcellusdavenport Christ will physically rescue His followers, but it won't be with a rapture.

    • @marcellusdavenport
      @marcellusdavenport 6 місяців тому +1

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779 Harpazo means caught up

  • @yl5020
    @yl5020 6 місяців тому +8

    I haven't even started to watch the video yet. I just have to say that I am SOOO happy to see you guys👏🏽 Halleluyah! God bless you and yours 🙏🏽💟✡️🕎✝️

  • @moonbeammimi
    @moonbeammimi 6 місяців тому +8

    So, so interesting!! In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter to me, because I just see Jesus - Yeshua - as The Messiah and my Savior. However, what better way to "spend" ones life than to study the Scriptures delving into the "deep secrets" of the Word of the Lord that never, ever contradicts itself!! This is amazing and so, so interesting!! Thank you for this series! Blessings to you all!! ❤❤🙏🏼🤲

  • @jeffellenberger3963
    @jeffellenberger3963 6 місяців тому +8

    Keep this going gentlemen. God bless you all for keeping focused on His Word. How awesome our God is and How Glorious His Word.
    All the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden in Jesus Christ and revealed to those who trust in Him, the Word that Delivers with the words from the Deliverer.
    May Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour continued to be honoured by this ministry and the sharing of His Good News and what He has done, is doing and will come to do. All Glory be to Him forever and ever!

    • @vdoniel
      @vdoniel 6 місяців тому +1

      Amen

  • @ayeshajanejr5-c660
    @ayeshajanejr5-c660 6 місяців тому +9

    I'm proud of myself I am Jesus Christ follower❤

  • @changedavis4306
    @changedavis4306 6 місяців тому +4

    Seth, I appreciate you mentioned Dr. Cole's work on the Psalter. I'm also glad to hear I'm not the only one hearing some of these things about Messiah Ben Yosef for the first time.

  • @user-464
    @user-464 6 місяців тому +7

    This series is such a Blessing ❤

  • @JesseJudah144
    @JesseJudah144 6 місяців тому +5

    Messiah is making intercession for us even now before his Abba and God, even our Abba and God ..........
    Jesus said to her, “Do not touch me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
    John's Good News the Twentieth Chapter

  • @nerd_patriot_disciple
    @nerd_patriot_disciple 6 місяців тому +3

    I absolutely love this. At first I was like “hold on wait a second “,but after we got the full explanation in this i find it so beautiful. He is the Messiah for all of Israel not just one tribe and He is Messiah for all the world. Also being of the tribe of Ephraim myself it’s awesome to see how my ancestors had a connection and role to play in our salvation via the Messiah.

  • @Cheapers-Vac
    @Cheapers-Vac 5 місяців тому +1

    This only gets better ! soooo grateful for this ! Thank you all. !!

  • @topazblahblah
    @topazblahblah 6 місяців тому +3

    😮 YES!!! This is what the Son of Man title really means! He is the Son of all patriarchs by blood and by spirit - all things are connected to Him! All things are a type and shadow of Him who was and is to come. This is beautiful doctrine. Thank you for this Revelation, our Jewish brethren!

  • @oakwoodsams2751
    @oakwoodsams2751 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank Dr. Postell and Dr.Broshi you two are asking all of the right questions, thank you for guiding the conversation back to the scriptures. This was a great discussion I will definitely be searching the scriptures for these claims and I will be getting a copy of Dr. Mitchell’s book as well.🙏🏾🇮🇱🙏🏾

  • @herinsh
    @herinsh 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s just miraculous how reading the Scripture through Hebrew eyes can open connections you don’t see when your cross references are chapter & verse not intersecting words

  • @virginialowry4443
    @virginialowry4443 6 місяців тому +1

    I have always thought of scripture as being as vast as all of the oceans combined, and even more. We all know there are huge amounts of the oceans that have never been explored, yet when something new is discovered, we all marvel and applaud the finding. I myself, and from reading several comments many of you, have only let my toes get wet in this vast ocean of God's written word. These men are at least up to their knees in studying and researching this vast ocean. They are sharing what they have learned so we all can benefit in knowing our most Holy Father.
    I may be the only one on here who enjoys having my mind streatched when it comes to God's Word. If I don't like what is said, usually because I don't understand, I either put it on the back burner until later, or just enjoy what I have already learned. I also ask questions for clarity, but try my best not to attack people of much higher learning and knowledge than myself.
    Thank you One for Israel for feeding this baby eagle until I am able to soar on the high winds.

  • @sandypratt8951
    @sandypratt8951 6 місяців тому +6

    Jesus Christ is Lord.🙏👍

  • @darrenpick8919
    @darrenpick8919 6 місяців тому +3

    Revelations 3.21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as l overcame and am set down with my Father in his Throne. It’s Joseph all over again. 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO

  • @wyldchild346
    @wyldchild346 6 місяців тому +1

    PSALM 149 : 8 - 9 To bind their kings with chains, (DNA) and their nobles with fetters of iron; To EXECUTE upon the judgment (WRITTEN): this honour have all (HIS )saints. Praise ye the LORD.
    (i.e. fetters- foot , bondage, bond) I been studying in Psalms for the past 7 months healing my broken Ribs I was writing this psalm down while listening to this video. This PSALM says it all. Also Hebrew letters hold a frequency while singing Psalm. I am on a deep deep dive. and just to give you another MIC Drop! EVERY WORD OF THE BIBLE can be SUNG. I have done it ! just open up the book! Start singing. THESE are musical note's forming a sacred geometry. Just look into or through the window of Chartres Cathedral. This was how it was built by patterns of the bible. Peace be with you! Jennifer

  • @JoeL-gl5ie
    @JoeL-gl5ie 6 місяців тому +1

    This is the beginning of our Jewish brothers recognizing Jesus as their Messiah. Two Messiahs, one same person. The scriptures reveal the truth in its own time.

  • @darrenpick8919
    @darrenpick8919 6 місяців тому +3

    Psalms 87 the son of Joseph comes with music 🎵 to be born in Zion Judah & Ephraim all my springs are in thee 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO

  • @mattaikay925
    @mattaikay925 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks greate teachers for bringing us this teaching - mind boggling - Baruch Atah Adonai Eloheinu Melech HaOlam - may Adonai bless you and keep you.

  • @darrenpick8919
    @darrenpick8919 6 місяців тому +3

    Revelations, 14.9 The Loud cry his is message to the world before Jesus comes back 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO

  • @jimmybones8452
    @jimmybones8452 6 місяців тому +5

    Everybody needs to read his books, called Messiah, Ben Joseph, and his book called Jesus the incarnation of the word. So nobody misinterprets what trying to be said, they know very well that Yeshua is GOD

    • @silverclouds3725
      @silverclouds3725 6 місяців тому

      I appreciate the heads up!! I didn't want to get deep into this video only to find that One For Israel has been led into heresy. That would be heartbreaking!! On the other hand, it's the times in which we find ourselves. Thanks again!

    • @lydiematumona6235
      @lydiematumona6235 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@silverclouds3725 i had this concern as well after watching the first episode. But they know what they're talking about. There's only one Messiah, and He is God in the flesh!

  • @deesharp7677
    @deesharp7677 6 місяців тому +4

    I’m humbled by your knowledge. Thank you for these new insights.

  • @terryhardaway3285
    @terryhardaway3285 6 місяців тому +6

    Shalom Aleichem,
    Thank you for these enlightening teachings.
    Messiah Ben Yosef is the Servant King, and as an archetype parallels the life of Yeshua as the Redeemer.
    Messiah Ben David will come in the clouds; however, the Chasidics are still waiting for the Redeemer to arise from their midst.
    Isaiah63 is the Ezekiel38 war of the Zechariah14 event.
    Am Yisrael chai!
    Baruch HaShem!
    Be well and be Blessed,
    A fellow sojourner

  • @sara6961
    @sara6961 6 місяців тому +4

    Woah so good I have goosebumps!! Our Lord is so AMAZING!! I’m in awe the more I know, I realized how idk anything. 😅

    • @rapturebound197
      @rapturebound197 6 місяців тому

      Great testimony! And yes the more you know the more the scriptures will amaze you!
      To God be the Glory! Amen🕎✝️

    • @vdoniel
      @vdoniel 6 місяців тому +1

      Amen.

  • @J0HN_3_16
    @J0HN_3_16 6 місяців тому +3

    Happy Hanukkah. Let's not forget YESHUA's 2nd coming will manifest very different aspects of HIS character than HIS first.

  • @dentonhahn2907
    @dentonhahn2907 6 місяців тому +2

    His last statement is my thoughts exactly, i cant wait!

  • @-Sun327
    @-Sun327 6 місяців тому +2

    Great knowledge of God's Words Stay Blessed ❣️💞❣️😇🙏👍

  • @annakristine6118
    @annakristine6118 6 місяців тому +2

    I see Josephs suffering, in solitude, rejected by his brothers, prisoner/slave to foreigners in a foreign land, like a picture of the Lost Sheep of Israel who are still in exile/diaspora. The ones who have been rejected by their own (like the Messiah also), beaten up and left for dead, sold into slavery, "eaten by the wolves" etc.. BUT Abba upholds him (them) with His strong hand, his rightous arm and turns the evil to good, setting him (them) up in a high place in safety - as with the Messiah 🥰

  • @vdoniel
    @vdoniel 6 місяців тому +2

    Absolutely fascinating and illuminating. Thank you all. May God continue to bless your ministry, thereby blessing us. Thank God for giving theml such a spirit to study and share. From Georgia USA

  • @simonewilliams7224
    @simonewilliams7224 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazing, after the first episode I studied in several bibles and the Torah to follow your progression of thought and it’s just in your face right, there is the truth of it. And it’s always been.
    Thank you so much. I was always taught to read the Bible and never stop reading it, you will discover or someone will show you new things. And there is so much interwoven themes and overlapping you cannot learn all the nuances.

  • @lonestarstate6570
    @lonestarstate6570 6 місяців тому +2

    This was great! Excited for part 3

  • @OnlyOneWay.2024
    @OnlyOneWay.2024 6 місяців тому +1

    This study & discussion is a DEEP dig. It is interesting, provocative & confusing! But, it does not alter my basic definition of salvation. That is that Christ lived a perfect life, died a horrible death, and rose from the dead as a propitiation for my sins (and, ALL who believe in HIM), and, now sits on the right hand of GOD until that great day when HE snatches away HIS BRIDE!

  • @Tom-cv7sf
    @Tom-cv7sf 6 місяців тому +1

    Keep the Feasts of the Lord by the Spirit once for all time becoming a Temple Made without Hands ❤

  • @stormchaser9738
    @stormchaser9738 6 місяців тому +3

    This is breathtaking

  • @angelasoderstrom3736
    @angelasoderstrom3736 4 місяці тому +1

    Absolutely surprised by this. Thank you for your spiritual insight about the Messiah Hamashiach
    Looking forward to hearing more. God bless you all🙏

  • @lonestarstate6570
    @lonestarstate6570 6 місяців тому +2

    Great to hear Dr. David Mitchell confirm the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as “Yehovah” and not “Yahweh”. I’ve put a lot of research into that particular topic, and have come to the same conclusion. I would love to see a study on how we know the vowels “Sh’va, Kolom, Kamatz” do not belong to the word “Adoni”

    • @lydiematumona6235
      @lydiematumona6235 6 місяців тому

      I don't know why, but I like the pronunciation Yahweh better

  • @deesharp7677
    @deesharp7677 6 місяців тому +3

    I can’t wait for part 3

  • @warneachothereverydayheb.3406
    @warneachothereverydayheb.3406 6 місяців тому

    This is absolutely amazing! The Jewish people of Jesus time on earth must not have been taught about Messiah son of Joseph! They weren't expecting him, only son of David!

  • @joshmacwhirter8221
    @joshmacwhirter8221 6 місяців тому +1

    Happy Hannukah and thank you Yeshua for your atoning death.

  • @arkenautgundlach2498
    @arkenautgundlach2498 6 місяців тому +2

    I have not heard it like that. Thank you for this channel

  • @Logic807
    @Logic807 6 місяців тому +3

    Ezekiel 37:19 is a good one. But I will not describe it as marriage. The marriage of the lamb is the body of Christ (bride) and Jesus Christ.

  • @FrankPCarpi
    @FrankPCarpi 6 місяців тому +3

    I think that there's another distinction between Joseph's suffering and David's; whereas David suffered due to his own sins, where Joseph suffered without a cause of his own.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 6 місяців тому

      This is false, and here's why: Psa. 105:19 says God tested Joseph while he was in prison. He wouldn't have done that unless there was a character flaw that God wanted to weed out of Joseph before making him the prime minister of Egypt. Joseph had a bit of a pride problem, and it shows itself in Gen. 37:5-10, 40:13-14. That is why God made the butler forget about him for 2 yrs.

  • @SouthDFW
    @SouthDFW 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you guys, I love your channel.

  • @MAruGGs
    @MAruGGs 6 місяців тому +1

    You guys are back at it ! 🙏

  • @annaduffy2344
    @annaduffy2344 6 місяців тому

    Wonderful, continued unveiling of Messiah (Jesus) so good we cam always learn. Thank you dear brothers.😊♥️

  • @addie109
    @addie109 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for explaining further in Part 2. Part 1 left me so very confused It's clearer to me now. Hopefully Part 3 will help explain even further. Praying for your ministry and for the peace of Israel

  • @putragabriel2716
    @putragabriel2716 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for youre teaching, Gby. ❤

  • @margueritetomlin9369
    @margueritetomlin9369 6 місяців тому +2

    WONDERFUL!!!

  • @canonfodder808
    @canonfodder808 6 місяців тому +1

    On the edge of my seat

  • @alchemenergyacademy6231
    @alchemenergyacademy6231 6 місяців тому +1

    Many could be considered messiahs or saviors of the temporal welfare of others… but only one Messiah/Savior Saved our eternal souls from separation with the Father.

  • @Yondu5093
    @Yondu5093 6 місяців тому +3

    i love this podcast 🎉❤❤❤

  • @darleneholtrop4532
    @darleneholtrop4532 6 місяців тому +1

    YHWY be praised! I knew that the Gospels in the NT reveal Yeshua as Messiah King, Suffering Servant, Son of Man, and Son of God. Now I've learned that Messiah is shown in the Hebrew Bible through Joseph (Sacrifice), Moses (Prophet), Aaron (Priest), and David (King). 😃❤

  • @marianowa6360
    @marianowa6360 6 місяців тому +1

    Mariam! The Blessed Virgin Mary Mother of Yeshua ❤ I have been waiting sooo long to hear Her sweet name here 🙏🙏🙏🙏 God bless Israel, dear Brothers and Sisters 😊😊

  • @emurre4976
    @emurre4976 6 місяців тому +2

    Now i understand the relation between Elisabet and Mary. I was always wondering.

  • @jamespayne5570
    @jamespayne5570 6 місяців тому

    As we were separated in our rebellion, shall we not be woven together in obedience.

  • @lydiematumona6235
    @lydiematumona6235 6 місяців тому

    Awesome video! The last video got me a bit confused... But now, everything makes more sense. Can't wait for the next episode!

  • @bryanwells6474
    @bryanwells6474 6 місяців тому

    Happy Sabbath, When I was a child God told me something I never forgot. Something Is coming in from space that will give men heart attacks and no babies will be born. Now I know it as men impatient with fear . Praise God

  • @WisdomCalls
    @WisdomCalls 6 місяців тому

    This has opened my eyes to so much in the scriptures! So many pieces are falling into place. It explains why Gen 37 and 38 intertwines the stories of Joseph and Judah. Now, the Lord had been showing me there was something special about Ephraim (son of Joseph) from Jeremiah 31 ““They will come with weeping; they will pray as I bring them back. I will lead them beside streams of water on a level path where they will not stumble, because I am Israel’s father, and Ephraim is my firstborn son.” I was wondering about how Ephraim could be the firstborn son. It seemed like a messianic title. And Ephraim is Joseph’s firstborn son. So if Messiah is Ben Joseph, then Ephraim also typifies Messiah! Then when God tears part of the kingdom away from Solomon he gives it to Jeroboam the Ephraimite the houses of Joseph and Judah are separated yet their stories are intertwined through the Kings. Then in the Messianic passage of Isaiah 11 it says this “12He will raise a banner for the nations
    and gather the exiles of Israel;
    he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
    from the four quarters of the earth.
    13Ephraim’s jealousy will vanish,
    and Judah’s enemies will be destroyed;
    Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah,
    nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.” Messiah will unite both houses of Judah and Joseph because he is the son of both, I believe. I feel as though I have just scratched the surface but it’s so exciting because I was just praying for answers this week and here they are!!!! Glory to God!

  • @alephtav7344
    @alephtav7344 5 місяців тому +1

    JOSEPH STORY WAS ONE OF THE BEST
    IN
    BOOK OF JASHER
    COMPLETES THE MISSING SUMMARIZED STORY IN BIBLE

  • @user-ll8jz6ug2g
    @user-ll8jz6ug2g 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow. I had to listen twice just to be able to follow thinking about multiple messiahs. I've done in-depth literature study & loved it, but never this deep in the Bible or with the materials available for you, gentlemen.
    I'm jealous!! 😊
    On the lineage of Jesus Christ: I was always taught that 2 gospels give the parental genealogy: His legal father (Matt.) & also His mother (Luke).
    Joseph's lineage was Matthew 1:1-16.
    Luke 2:4-5 states simply Joseph was of the lineage of David, but then in Luke 3:23-38, Mary's lineage is given past Abraham, back to Adam.
    There are major differences in Luke & Matthew's linages, which is attributed to the differences of Joseph & Mary.
    I will watch the 1st podcast and then relisten to this 2nd one. Both with my Bible open!!
    Thank you, gentlemen!
    Excellent discussion.
    I pray for peace in Jerusalem.
    I pray for y'all.
    Many blessing from the Lord upon all of you!
    I stand with Israel! ❤

    • @davidmitchell265
      @davidmitchell265 6 місяців тому

      Luke doesn't give Mary's genealogy. He gives Joseph's genealogy from Nathan. If you want to know more, read "Jesus: The Incarnation of the Word" (2021)

    • @user-ll8jz6ug2g
      @user-ll8jz6ug2g 6 місяців тому

      @@davidmitchell265
      Thank you, David. I do want to learn more. I'll look up the book & read. Appreciate the suggestion & off of help.

    • @lydiematumona6235
      @lydiematumona6235 6 місяців тому

      ​@@davidmitchell265 i heard of a possible explanation to the different genealogies, which really made a lot of sense to me. It says that Solomon probably had relations with his brother's (Nathan) wife after his death. This would be possible following a levitical law, that says that if someone (a man) dies without leaving any descendants, the brother of this person (that died) is supposed to sleep with the person's wife. That would then mean that Solomon slept with Nathan's wife to give him descendance. Like this Yeshua would be biologically from David's and Solomon's line, but legally from Nathan's line. This makes a lot of sense

    • @lydiematumona6235
      @lydiematumona6235 6 місяців тому

      ​@@davidmitchell265 is it possible for you to give us a brave summary into what the book says?

    • @user-ll8jz6ug2g
      @user-ll8jz6ug2g 6 місяців тому

      Definitely needs a deeper study. I've grown up being told both parents lineage were presented since the father is the legal line, but in Jesus case, being a virgin, Mary's line would be important to be included. Some of the great modern theologians hold this view. But I've looked up the book & asked my library to send for it. Again, thank you!

  • @OnlyOneWay.2024
    @OnlyOneWay.2024 6 місяців тому

    I am back two days later to ensure that I'm getting it! I am still trying to make sense of it all. I'm looking forward to more teachings, Though, not Jewish, I see myself as a son of Issachar, as I am daily searching for current information as well as scriptural inspiration!

  • @WORTHYOFITALL
    @WORTHYOFITALL 6 місяців тому +3

    Elijah comes before the great and also the terrible day of the Lord

  • @gregpfaffe4098
    @gregpfaffe4098 6 місяців тому +2

    “I can’t wait “

  • @Richard_Paradise
    @Richard_Paradise 6 місяців тому

    This is very powerful stuff. Great guest. Thanks guys.

  • @WisdomCalls
    @WisdomCalls 6 місяців тому +1

    So just like in Zechariah he said the imagery of David and Joseph is in a single character I would say that could be why Moses intertwined the stories of Joseph and Judah’s progeny with the story of Tamar and Perez. They are linked

  • @eigenvalue5775
    @eigenvalue5775 6 місяців тому +9

    There is only one Yeshua Ha'Mashiach/Jesus Christ.

  • @kevingoode521
    @kevingoode521 4 місяці тому

    Beautiful!! Peace in my spirit to hear this because I have known for some time this truth.

  • @thehopeofisraelministry4182
    @thehopeofisraelministry4182 6 місяців тому

    Wow my mind has just been blown! Thank you! Also, remember that the only two who entered the promise land from the ones that came out of Egypt were Caleb and Joshua. Caleb comes from the tribe of Judah (his father was actually a convert) and Joshua comes from the tribe of Ephraim which is from Joseph. These two were the only two who entered from the original ones that came out, everyone else was born in the desert.

    • @thehopeofisraelministry4182
      @thehopeofisraelministry4182 6 місяців тому

      And I also I believe Moses (from the line of Aaron) also entered. Hear me out before you make a decision…when God tells Moses to go up the mountain to see the promise land, God tells him to look in all directions. Think about it, if your up on a hill and you’re looking at all directions, then you are standing right smack in the middle of the promise land.

  • @kcrjmj7613
    @kcrjmj7613 6 місяців тому

    So so revealing son of David and son of Joseph. And Mary is from both, the Kings side and from the Priest side. So Jesus is both KING AND PRIEST. SO TRUE AS PER THE SCRIPTURES 🙏🏻❤️

  • @ChosenAndUndone
    @ChosenAndUndone 4 місяці тому

    I have learned much from these presentations! This is my 3rd time watching through it! But I wanted to share something that I'm not sure I have commented on just yet.
    I believe these Scriptures make the Messiah Son of Joseph becoming the Messiah Son of David ever so clearer. Please bear in mind, I did not go searching for these texts. This just came up during my devotional reading one morning, and the timing was perfect because your first video on this topic had just come out!!!
    Please note the following prophecy:
    Ezekiel 37:15-28 (KJV) "15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou [meanest] by these? 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: 23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. 24 And David my servant [shall be] king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore."

  • @chuckporritt6958
    @chuckporritt6958 6 місяців тому +2

    I had never considered the idea of 'Messiah ben Joseph' before. Thank you. And truly Jesus is Israel's 'Joseph'; a brother turned over to the Gentiles long ago, and who the majority of the Jewish people today believe is dead. This all corresponds to the 'woman' of Revelation 12, whose symbolism points back to the second of Joseph's dreams. Now the nation of Israel needs to be told that their 'Joseph' is not dead, but working behind the scenes (through current events) to bring His brethren to repentance. This message may not be popular with the Jewish people. OFI may even be accused of wishing hardship upon Israel. But it's the word of God, and He will use it to save souls.

    • @fabianapimentel6114
      @fabianapimentel6114 6 місяців тому

      The woman who delivered a baby king was Mary, not Israel. While Israel keep not humbling themselves and still think they are the center of everything they will stay blind to the truth. Jesus came to preach to the people of Israel, be rejected by them and save the whole word. He built his church, not with Israel but everyone who believes him, there is no Israel as people of God today, but a Catholic (Universal) church who is not only his people but his bride and his body. I know one day people of Israel will stop listening to those rabbis and listen to the Messiah God Jesus, becouse it is a prophetic word for that, until there any jew or non jew that wants to be saved will have to humble and join the body of Christ through faith in his death and resurrection.

    • @danielhertz7266
      @danielhertz7266 6 місяців тому

      AMEN! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🧎🏽‍♂️

  • @Youngster12_
    @Youngster12_ 6 місяців тому +1

    I love it my ninja , Jesus coming back!!! Let it rip my ninja🥷🏿🥷🏿 twin brothers from Judah!!!!! Oh, this is gonna be good!!!!

  • @Rebecca-oz9fu
    @Rebecca-oz9fu 6 місяців тому

    Very insightful teaching. Thank you for these insights. Praying for Israel and the peace of Jerusalem.🇺🇸❤🇮🇱

  • @lisarussell2831
    @lisarussell2831 2 дні тому

    AMEN TO EVERYTHING SAID! AMEN!!!!

  • @Mel-zu6xy
    @Mel-zu6xy 6 місяців тому +2

    It seems to be important for jesus to be the messiah of both the northern kingdom and the southern to have the bloodlines for both. IT also seems to me that it would be hard for the southern kingdom to accept a messiah from the north.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 6 місяців тому

      The Bible does not teach this anywhere, and whoever takes this scholar's word for it is a fool. The genealogy traces Christ's heritage specifically to Judah. Christ is prophesied to sit on the throne of _David_ , not Jeroboam. Ppl are allowing themselves to be deceived by that guy's reasoning because he sounds knowledgeable, but he's a fool who also think that there are other Messiahs.

    • @Mel-zu6xy
      @Mel-zu6xy 6 місяців тому +1

      @theeternalsbeliever1779 The point I believe he is making is that these things are fulfilled in Christ. They are types and Shadows of our Messiah Yashua. He is from the tribe of David, and although he didn't sit on the throne, he will when returns, he will rule with an iron Scepter.

  • @rapturebound197
    @rapturebound197 6 місяців тому +4

    Very illuminating!... mind expanding.. blessing! 🕎✝️

  • @ombandajeanpaul7117
    @ombandajeanpaul7117 6 місяців тому +1

    I am waiting for the next podcast.

  • @salmanabawi1916
    @salmanabawi1916 5 місяців тому

    Loved it
    Great insight
    Book of numbers 13/16
    , and Moses called O’Shea the son of Nun Jehoshua

  • @jameshathaway5117
    @jameshathaway5117 2 місяці тому

    Boy it sure zeroes in on the genetic line of Messiah if He must come from David AND Joseph... God really sharpened His prophecies to a pinpoint didn't He? You cannot dig heavily into Messianic preophecy without being funneled directly to Jesus. Praise God for the depth of His living word.

  • @JedidjahSlagter
    @JedidjahSlagter 6 місяців тому

    Just beautiful! Thank you 🙏

  • @kerryrasol7718
    @kerryrasol7718 6 місяців тому +1

    Hosea in latin and spanish means joseph. As this book is all about ephraim his son, it seems fitting that this book is the book of joseph.

  • @brightbite
    @brightbite 6 місяців тому +2

    I think I could better follow along with this presentation with a visual aid such as a chart, as I am a visual learner.

    • @rapturebound197
      @rapturebound197 6 місяців тому

      I can understand that. Visual aids are always helpful. This teaching on Messiah "types" is rarely if ever discussed among Christians. Its very easily misunderstood as a few of the comments indicate.
      Its a blessing to be able to listen to a video like this over and over until those wonderful 'ah hah' moments come.
      I don't know if you know this but you can click on the transcript and read the words being said. The closed caption program that types the transcript can get a word wrong occasionally.. but you'll get thru it just fine. Its not visual but it's might be the next best thing for you! check it out 👍

  • @phillipzabukovec6690
    @phillipzabukovec6690 6 місяців тому +1

    Ezk 37:17 Then join them one to another for yourself into one stick, and they will become one in your hand.
    Ezk 37:18 "And when the children of your people speak to you, saying, 'Will you not show us what you mean by these?'-
    Ezk 37:19 say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand." '

  • @todayisthedayofsalvation6925
    @todayisthedayofsalvation6925 6 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful

  • @barbarza
    @barbarza 6 місяців тому +1

    There are 4 types of Messiah:
    - Josef
    - David
    - Aaron
    - Adam

  • @mattalan5025
    @mattalan5025 6 місяців тому

    Brilliant. He has said He would put the two sticks together and through Omri He has already done that.

  • @kathleensanford1950
    @kathleensanford1950 6 місяців тому +2

    Very, very rich insights. I really enjoy the teachings that come to us gentile followers of Jesus from One For Israel