The Great 10mm Debate! Sig VS M&P VS Glock

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  • @timhood5247
    @timhood5247 Рік тому +25

    Love my m&p performance center 10mm, have had zero problems out of mine.

    • @bluuper321
      @bluuper321 6 місяців тому +1

      Same here! One of my favorites! For me, it’s the easiest to shoot. I haven’t had any issues yet. I’ve got 750 or so rounds thru it, so probably still breaking in even.

    • @og-mgtow
      @og-mgtow 4 місяці тому

      What ammo do you use?

    • @bluuper321
      @bluuper321 4 місяці тому

      @@og-mgtow I use sig v-crown ( a little expensive) 180 grain mostly, I have tried some underwood 200 gr solids to see if they would run. 180 grain hornady xtp’s are decent. Mine will even run that aluminum case blazer range ammo. I’m wondering if these have the same issues as the regular m&p 10mms.

  • @jeffreylocke8808
    @jeffreylocke8808 6 місяців тому +4

    I took my stock M&P 2.0 10mm and customized it. I have the 4.625 inch model.
    Quad ported by Mag-Na-Port and installed a Carver Custom HEAVY non captured spring tungsten guide rod using a factory rated recoil spring.
    Had a flat aluminum black Apex trigger installed. Replaced the sights with optic height steel X/S tritium night sights. Installed a Holosun 508T red dot on C&H Precision aluminum mounting plate using blue loc-tite and stainless steel screws. Used Floyd’s Custom mag well and aluminum base plate to add one round to the magazine with no spring change. Added a Pachmyer slip on rubber grip to cover some of the grip texture. No safety on my M&P 2.0 10mm. Installed a Stream Light TAC light and green laser to it. My son shot my pistol for the first time and loved it and was accurate too. So the customized features really tamed it.

  • @timbailey6548
    @timbailey6548 10 місяців тому +6

    I’ve just lubricated it and cleaned it for my m&p performance center and it ran well. Also for the magazines I’ve just learned to slap the magazines so that the ammo sits directly to the back. I’ve had no problems with it after but I’m probably only about 500 rounds in it now. I’ve had no problems on the last 300 rounds after. Try slapping the magazines so the primers are directly to the back of the magazine for sure. For me it’s always been the 2nd to last round that would cause problems

  • @Jimbo922L
    @Jimbo922L 10 місяців тому +3

    Great review brother. I have one question. In your opinion can the M&P 10mm be concealed decently? That’s the one I have been looking hard into and will probably purchase.
    Thanks, keep up the great vids.
    🙏🏼👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for watching! You could conceal carry the M&P 10MM if you dress appropriately. I would go for the 4 inch model. Out of the three, that would be the easiest to conceal carry. You won’t get the performance center trigger as standard though. However you should be able to buy one & get it installed if you prefer.

    • @Jimbo922L
      @Jimbo922L 10 місяців тому

      @@Thearmchairoperator215 Thank you. Keep up the great work.
      God Bless you and yours.
      Also Merry Christmas!!!
      🙏🏼👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @joshualittlejohn7915
    @joshualittlejohn7915 11 місяців тому +6

    This is a great video I want to own the M P performance center 10 mm at some point right now I have a Gen 4 G40 mos that I'm building up pretty much for what the performance center comes with out of the box...

    • @merylpelosi8485
      @merylpelosi8485 8 місяців тому +1

      My Performance Center 10 mm with a CT RAD PRO Is the best shooting pistol I own. From the puniest .40 cal. to the heaviest Buffalo Bore and Underwood ammo, it's never failed to feed or eject. 8" steel targets @ 50+ yards are just play time. Best big bore trigger ever.

  • @korazjian5251
    @korazjian5251 11 місяців тому +5

    Pretty good video bro I subbed, but I will say when you said the sig lack of trigger vs the s&w PC….i think the sig is better having shot both, also i think the integrated comp is not very noticeable….
    accessories you kinda left out the mass amounts of aftermarket modules coming in the next year lol
    Sure it’s nice to have a few back straps with a gun but let’s be honest that’s all you’re stuck with and if nothing works for you your shit out of luck the sig xten is going to have more in that dept and probably much more overall for aftermarket…. it just needs time it’s still fresh in the 10mm game.

  • @lehisilver1191
    @lehisilver1191 11 місяців тому +5

    I like the Smith & Wesson performance center I did have one failure to feed in 125 rounds now I haven't had a problem whatsoever I put $100 more rounds through it of three different types of ammunition ammunition

    • @motorcitymadman146
      @motorcitymadman146 10 місяців тому

      Try running some underwood 200 gn at 1250 fps or 180 at 1300 the slide outruns the mag with that kind of power. 22lb spring should resolve the issue.

  • @Dutch_van_der_Linde1885
    @Dutch_van_der_Linde1885 3 місяці тому +3

    The m&p pistols are the only ones that passed all of the military torture tests and if you dont believe me watch Garand Thumb's mud and freeze pistol torture test video

  • @driftedcowboy5941
    @driftedcowboy5941 8 місяців тому +3

    The 5.6 is a superior setup for EDC imo. 4bros makes a nice iwb holster that rides well in a stash nacho belly band. Liberty Civil defense 60g @ 2400fps. 10mm is the best mm.

  • @BrianKolbusz
    @BrianKolbusz 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks, good review. Very helpful

  • @linkbond08
    @linkbond08 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm not hating on your video at all, you make em better than me.
    If you catch yourself talking a bit slow, you can speed up your finished vid by 1.1x or 1.2x to keep it flowing tighter, it also helps to keep music playing on the background at 2%-5% volume just to keep the silence at bay, don't speed up the music tho, the human ear can tell easier if music has been sped up.
    This video comparison was a key reason why I'm choosing the M&P10 Performance Center, that long barrel with the built in brake, the safety from the factory, long sight ratio, and tall sights are sweet.

  • @johnlong7504
    @johnlong7504 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for your nice info-clip and yes, I like the Glock G40 Gen 4 I have just received and consider
    getting another 10 mm pistol from either Taurus or CZ since I like those brands very much.

  • @davidgrunewald7194
    @davidgrunewald7194 8 місяців тому +1

    damn! a reliable , honest review

  • @freezerbbq-barnes2361
    @freezerbbq-barnes2361 7 місяців тому +7

    Springfield has entered the community 👀

    • @ernestholloway9436
      @ernestholloway9436 7 місяців тому

      I love my 10mm its my edc

    • @linkbond08
      @linkbond08 4 місяці тому +1

      Springfield armory? The same people who sold gun owners' rights for preferential treatment?
      Na

  • @thanehanson6746
    @thanehanson6746 9 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the information on these 10mm. I'm looking to get one and you helped me with this information.

  • @johncunningham970
    @johncunningham970 10 місяців тому +6

    S&W performance center is by far the best to me and it conceals great with my vanish hoster

  • @DeanPatterson-j9q
    @DeanPatterson-j9q Місяць тому +1

    And with what you know now , the M&P with Mag.Springs now fixes the pistol . I still like the Glock , but to pt a trigger , barrel , tungsten guide rod and sights i might as well get the Sig.

  • @it_is_finished
    @it_is_finished 20 днів тому

    Nice video. Have you considered giving more possible points to the more important categories? Like you said, reliability is of upmost importance.

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  16 днів тому +1

      Thank you for watching! I am planning to revamping my versus video with more emphasis on those key points.

  • @ADDade
    @ADDade 9 місяців тому +2

    Great video. I kind of feel the reliability factor should be graded differently with a higher value due to importance and probability reasons.

  • @jw8567
    @jw8567 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm making a Monster Glock. Bought a Glock 20 gen 5 auto, a Complete Standard Slide Assembly SKU: AS-STD-21, Size: 21 and a Glock 32 barrel. with a few mods should be able to shoot 10mm and 40 S&W with the Glock 20, 45 acp with the 21 standard slide and .357 and 38 special with a no name threaded stainless barrel. Bought a MCK pistol brace kit. Ready for anything and different ammo availability.

  • @charlespeters7220
    @charlespeters7220 4 місяці тому

    Good review! Compensated pistols like hotter loads and are a little trickier to spring properly. You may notice increased reliability with different ammo and as you reach the break-in round count.

  • @highpulseoutdoors
    @highpulseoutdoors 10 місяців тому

    Great video. We have been looking for a 10mm and this video has helped me make that decision.

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for watching! I plan on making a part 2 to this video in the near future.

  • @MichealAdams-pg9cu
    @MichealAdams-pg9cu 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video.

  • @DennisD441
    @DennisD441 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video man!!! I think you made my mind up and I’m going to go buy the S&W 10mm!! I own only Glocks but I love the features and what you said about the Smith!! Again, thank you for such a fantastic vid!!!

  • @Michael-ji5hj
    @Michael-ji5hj Місяць тому

    I have the s&w mmp 10mm
    So far, it's been great. No miss feeds or any other issue.
    I am behind your 900 count. I have only 500 rounds thr the gun, but there are zero issues.
    I also feel the recoil is much better on the s&w. It probably helped your grouping, leading to the s&w victory

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for watching! I’m glad that you did not experience any issues with your S&W. The S&W was the best shooter out of the group.

  • @jamesalbin6194
    @jamesalbin6194 3 місяці тому +1

    The best you didn't test Springfield XDM ELITE 10MM 4.5 " barrel. The S &W 5.6 is a great gun to.

  • @LePeterK123
    @LePeterK123 9 місяців тому +1

    Just picked up the smith and Wesson 10mm… I’d be so appreciative if you try to put the smith in a p320 xten holster with a light !!!

  • @Aviation_Professional
    @Aviation_Professional 9 місяців тому +2

    My new 2.0 Perfomance center 5.6" had nothing but jams this week. FTF every 2 to 3 rounds of S&B and Magtech. Called SW and they said send it in! Off it went. Very disappointing

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  9 місяців тому +2

      Please let me know what their fix was & if it helps.

    • @Aviation_Professional
      @Aviation_Professional 9 місяців тому

      Sure will. They told me on the phone to put a paper in the box saying a wanted NEW MAGS, but they would not acknowledge any KNOWN ISSUES@@Thearmchairoperator215

  • @Moderndaycowboy74
    @Moderndaycowboy74 5 місяців тому

    Great video. I pretty much agreed with everything you said

  • @karlhinton4061
    @karlhinton4061 7 місяців тому +1

    Left out the ria which I think is better than any of these and I own all 4,sidebar the ria is heavy

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  7 місяців тому

      I had the RIA ultra TAC 2 at one point. Great gun for sure. I miss it

  • @blaster8904
    @blaster8904 9 місяців тому

    Great review, thank you

  • @michaelsubi
    @michaelsubi 5 місяців тому +1

    I like the Sig and Glock next

  • @davidanderson5259
    @davidanderson5259 9 місяців тому

    Your choice would be my choice too...but really, it's all about what suits the shooter best. I think all of these are good guns.

  • @hardcore9618
    @hardcore9618 7 місяців тому

    I am wondering if the failures to load in the M&P were with FMJ as I have seen reported by others?

  • @motorcitymadman146
    @motorcitymadman146 10 місяців тому +1

    S&W once you upgrade the trigger and recoil spring to 22lb. also M&P 4 inch should have been used. If a gun is not reliable then its useless for personal protection, its like buying an Epi Pen that works 80% of the time.

  • @pastornate0827
    @pastornate0827 9 місяців тому +2

    Do the ports on the M&P make recoil “less” than others?

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  9 місяців тому +1

      It does if you use the stock recoil spring. The extra power recoil spring will make the pistol a slight bit snappier.

  • @cdpc211
    @cdpc211 10 місяців тому +2

    So what do you recommend for woods gun?

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  10 місяців тому +3

      Between those three? I’d probably go with the Glock because it’s the most reliable out of the three.

  • @wooddawg4868
    @wooddawg4868 6 місяців тому

    What is the reason for a caliber that tears guns/pistols apart? The 10mm needs to be more of a rifle caliber.

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  6 місяців тому

      Regular 10MM would suck as a rifle caliber. The ballistics just don’t hold up compared to the much faster moving rifle rounds. it does make for a good pistol hunting or with the right loading, a decent medium to large game self defense round.

  • @michaelcaesar4610
    @michaelcaesar4610 Рік тому +1

    Good review

  • @willbar1961
    @willbar1961 11 місяців тому +5

    Still missing one, Springfield XDm Elite.

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  11 місяців тому +6

      I’m hoping to do a part 2 including the XDM, and the FN510

    • @JohnnyBravo02
      @JohnnyBravo02 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Thearmchairoperator215that FN is probably the one to get over XDM

    • @phalylim6227
      @phalylim6227 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Thearmchairoperator215 Love your reviews, very informative, I really wanted to like the S&W perform 10mm too, but after your reliability video, I'm second guessing now. Look forward to your XDM and FN review, since I'm leaning to those two now. Which ever review is more favorable between those two, I'm get that one. Thank you, and appreciate your content.

    • @Dressed2KillTaye
      @Dressed2KillTaye 10 місяців тому +1

      Arguably the Best 1. Never see complaints on it yet...

    • @zombieimpact2790
      @zombieimpact2790 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@Thearmchairoperator215 I haven't had any issues with failure to feed or reliability in my m&p 2.0 10mm 4 inch. It's been flawless, so they must have fixed the problems on the newly released models.

  • @mariossr
    @mariossr 10 місяців тому +1

    hey can someone answer my question, does anyone no if the sig and performance center also use polygonal barrels? i sold my g20 gen5 and got a fn510. very very satisfied with it.

    • @Thearmchairoperator215
      @Thearmchairoperator215  10 місяців тому +1

      To my knowledge both the sig & the M&P use standard rifling in their barrels

  • @handsofstone1887
    @handsofstone1887 4 місяці тому +1

    M&P PC needs high power mag springs. Makes it 100%

  • @bbaz6729
    @bbaz6729 4 місяці тому +1

    Quality and function are often subjective, but I shot a Glock 22 for years as LE, then switched to the M&P. 16 years later I still carry an M&P. The M&P is a Cadillac compared to the Glock. I picked up the ported M&P Performance Center 10mm. Never looked back. The best firearm for you is the one you are the most competent with. The polymer plates are fine for the 10mm. The SRO RMR screws on with Loctite and you forget about it. No problems. The only thing I don't like about the M&P is the safety. I would prefer a weapon without one. Trying to manipulate the Glock take down "slides" on the side of the frame are PITA. The M&P needs to be kept clean and lubed. Even out of the box. That's per the manual.

  • @lehisilver1191
    @lehisilver1191 11 місяців тому +2

    There was a channel called gunblast and one of the tests he would do with every handgun is he would put it in some sort of vice that held the gun and the gun would be fired 25 yards to see how accurate the gun is !!!! Can't find a channel now that 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @43MrPEZO
      @43MrPEZO 9 місяців тому +1

      He passed away a while back.

  • @rowdyryano
    @rowdyryano 14 днів тому

    Springfield 10mm tops Glock 10mm

  • @batjackjohnson252
    @batjackjohnson252 17 днів тому

    Thank you

  • @grantdonley4014
    @grantdonley4014 5 місяців тому +1

    Have the Sig X-Ten, sold my Glock 40. Selling the Sig, buying another Glock 40. Sig is only a 15rd pistol. If you have one in the chamber of the Sig and insert a full mag, good luck trying to rack the slide! I left the mags fully loaded and compressed for two months, didn’t help. Failure to chamber the first round like this as well, no matter the ammo. But the real reason for the Glock 40 is a full 6 inch barrel. 10mm thrives in longer barrels, especially with Underwood, Grizzly, Buffalo Bore, and Double Tap. It can be up to a 100fps for that extra inch. Ask your girl if an extra inch makes a difference?! Aftermarket support is Glock all the way as well as the track record. The Sig feels great in the hand, but not as accurate as the Glock. I do not like the hinged trigger on the M&P, and they have a bad record for reliability. The Glock has the lowest recoil impulse of the three due to the low bore axis and long slide. I'm not a Glock fan boy , just my opinion based on my experience with each pistol.

  • @seansimone-e6k
    @seansimone-e6k 2 місяці тому +1

    Real simple the best is all metal those plastic toys don’t shoot 10 mm very well

  • @3.eyes.open.
    @3.eyes.open. 8 місяців тому +1

    Granite... ☠️

  • @jpg_sig10
    @jpg_sig10 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for this 3-gun comparrison.
    - I'll pass on the entire SIG Sauer P320 series of pistols, including the X-Ten. A pistol design infamous for firing if dropped, and self-firing even while holstered... no thank you. I've seen multiple X-Ten pistols fail to feed 220 Gr and 230 Gr FN HCL ammo. Also, the pistol appears to be very top heavy. Why such a high bore axis on a striker-fired pistol?
    Pass.
    - Glock, the Honda Civic of handguns. That's because it's cheaply made and so widely and heavily modified and upgraded by its owners... frankly, because it needs to be. The unsupported chamber of its polygonal-rifling barrel and all those notorious Glock smiley-face bulges ruining spent cases, and all those kabooms. Crappy plastic throw-away sights. Crappy mushy trigger. A plastic RSA. Poor ergonomics. My own Gen3 Glock 20SF was a veritable jam-o-matic with heavy full-power 10mm Auto loads from Buffalo Bore, Underwood, and DoubleTap. It wouldn't reliably cycle UA 10mm Auto SGD Bonded JHP 165 Gr or 180 Gr ammo either (30% FTF / FTE rate).
    Glock perfection isn't.
    - The S&W M&P 10mm M2.0 pistols all come from the factory seriously undersprung (17# RSA, soft magazine springs). I guess so that old ladies can easily rack the slide and fully load the magazines. Put in longer stronger 11-coil Springer Precision magazine springs, and a 22# to 24# RSA, and cycling reliability improves a lot.
    However, I do seriously question the M&P 10mm magazine design. The feed lips are very short, and angled quite steep, much more so than in the 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP M&P magazines. The top cartridge is not very securely held in place, and it's at a steep angle. Also, the 10mm magazine lacks the side channels of the 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP, which keep the cartridges aligned more tightly inside the magazine tube and away from the magazine ejection lock notch. This could potentially present a problem with uncommanded magazine drops when firing large heavy flat-nosed hardcast lead (FN HCL) bear-defense / hunting loads.
    IMHO, S&W should redesign their 10mm Auto 15-round magazines.
    All that said, I purchased the S&W M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" pistol. Since upgrading the RSA and magazine springs in late May 2022, I've enjoyed 100% perfectly flawless functionality through 2,080 rounds of various 10mm Auto ammo.
    Good things! 👍

  • @mauricehardy5012
    @mauricehardy5012 10 місяців тому +1

    Where is he bet 2 fn and Springfield

  • @GunsNGames248
    @GunsNGames248 8 місяців тому +1

    I choose glock xten then sw.

  • @ernestholloway9436
    @ernestholloway9436 7 місяців тому

    Where springfield

  • @Jaycv-dq3rg
    @Jaycv-dq3rg 9 місяців тому

    Sig should be around $600

  • @armedrebellion47
    @armedrebellion47 4 місяці тому +1

    That sig is horrible. It looks like Robo cops gun. M&P doesn't know how to make a 10mm, and glock is just simple to perfection.

  • @cashmeremoneymack6572
    @cashmeremoneymack6572 Рік тому +1

    Algorithm

  • @rustimack
    @rustimack 2 місяці тому

    Dont quit your day job.

  • @arifmuala
    @arifmuala 10 місяців тому +1

    XDM elite 10 mm is the best!!!!