The reason why I'm glad we are moving away from the old ab crunch torso is because we don't have to see that horrible waist cut anymore. It's functional, but it just looks bad once you turn the torso around and it looks like a chunk of meat is missing on the waist, only time where it works is characters like Cable and Cyclops that have the belt to hide it. My preferred choice would be ball joints waist to go with diaphragm joint, but the reverse ab crunch for the waist is still better than the waist cut.
I never understood why people disliked the hip swivel, more articulation means better figure right? But it does make the figure look weird when their waist is sticking out lol
@@suhtangwong As you said the figure looks weird with that giant oval overhang. But it's a non issue now as double ball joint lower torso fixes that. When executed correctly it has a more organic swiveling with less break up of the design.
@@DesignIncaseit’s just sad that even when hasbro does use double ball, they don’t get the best range because the position and placement of the ball joint and hole is wrong, also the space within the torsos pieces aren’t as hollowed out as they should be for the best range
Imo, as awesome as this figure is, i wish they could have based this off the older s.s comics. The different lenses gave him a unique look. This just looks like Spiderman with guantlets and spider arms. Just m.o though. Im still getting it
Most Joes are able to have that because they've got a hip overlay, or are able to fudge it with their design. I don't think it would work well for most marvel designs like spiderman
@ivanfrias2605 mcfarlane does the same thing as joes. But Mafex is pretty good with it, true. First, though, we should standardize having one at the mid torso before we ask for another. But one problem is that with figures that have a low age recommendation like legends, the internal cuts for articulation tend to be extra small, from what I've seen, and probably wouldn't be as good as mafex without modification. I'd definitely like to see it happen eventually though.
Yesterday I put the Retro Carnage, Venom Movie Carnage and Superior Spider-Man in my basket. Then I had second thoughts about it because of shipping prices. Decided to go through with it today and they were ALL out of stock when I logged in :(
Great review my friend. The extra head can it fit the Ben reilly spiderman? Seems this goes more accurate than the huge big eyed one, some didn't like that head sculpt.
From a quick Google of some comic panels, it appears that the tips of the spider legs are supposed to curve towards the outside... which, thinking about it, it does make sense since a lot of bugs' legs tend to curve outwards.
Why not try the lens reflection thing with a regular spiderman that has plenty of other heads at this point you can swap out? Why not give him the comic accurate thinner/darker lenses, even as an alt head?
That previous version was terrible. Brown eye lenses, no gauntlets, no mechanical spider legs. This is long overdue. I still love the Superior Octopus figure.
5:23 It's neat, but it only works if he's up high and swinging around. A strange thing about the alternate head is that the lenses are different shapes. So if you like the default's lenses but don't like the skyline, too bad. 6:55 Better Spider-Man 2099 in the future? 8:25 They should use Octopus's torso for the Sunfire body every now and then. 15:33 In Hasbro's promo images, they crossed the arms to get him to stand; top ones crossed over the bottom ones to the back and the bottom ones crossed under to the front. 17:00 Crazy to think that Iron Spider cost more, had fewer accessories, and less articulation in the waldoes than Superior. I like his upper body. For me, it's the bigger RYV legs that makes it appear small. The crotch piece is also odd because it makes the lower torso look long and has less muscle definition than the rest of the body. His obliques are high and the crotch is low. 20:41 Logan should only come up to Pete's jaw.
Actually, the Dead No More/Clone Conspiracy storyline had Ben Reilly bring back all of the dead Spidey characters (including Doc Ock, who's mind was in the Living Brain at the time). After Peter and Ben fight, Peter uses his webware tech to destroy all the clones, but Ben had made a "perfect" clone free from degeneration. Otto transferred his mind into the body, making a Peter/Otto hybrid clone (comics logic) and then he took the mantle of the superior octopus. It wasn't until the Spider-geddon storyline that Otto takes up the mantle of the superior Spider-Man again
Superior was the first comic run I read all the way thru in probably 15 years. That first figure was such a disappointment to me. This update looks amazing! Cant wait to get it in hand. Thanks for going the extra mile for the early review!
I have to ask. How are YOU getting these WAY before release dates ??? Like..This one? Even on Preorders?! Some say 10/16/24 is the 'release date' .. Toy Snow Man?!!! Ty. I will take a looks!😊
Yeah I’m not feeling it for the new one I’ll skip him. I’ll just stick with my old on he looks much better and comicy looking . The new one just looks too muscular and buffed and the head shape looks little wider. I love Spider-Man action figures when they look little skinny like the old days . Idc about new improvement joints and appearance I’ll still stick with my old one but overall I hope everyone enjoys the new one.
Its just weird they got the shoulders/arms nice, but still using the crummy ab crunch. Dont get me wrong, i pre-ordered this on day 1, but it feels like a easy slam dunk with all the accessories but they just did a lay up with the torso.
@@Chris.P.Bacon7 They have no problem retooling body parts. Adding a backpart port to the RYV upper torso would have given them an upper torso that they can reuse later on. This is just lazy because comic Iron Spider had this same problem, and they should have solved it here.
Better than the original by quite a lot. Not very familiar with the character, so this is purely a "coolness" factor decision. Need to see it in hand, I think.
bro i buy final swing tom holland marvel legends from toy swoman and i didnt recieve it the store didnt give me the mony back 40 usd and i call the store 2 times and they hung up on me soo they are scammers toyswoman.
The original Superior Spidey was one of my first ever legends, so this is special!
I love the narrow torso. Makes him look very heroic with his big shoulders.. the proportions are so nice
The reason why I'm glad we are moving away from the old ab crunch torso is because we don't have to see that horrible waist cut anymore. It's functional, but it just looks bad once you turn the torso around and it looks like a chunk of meat is missing on the waist, only time where it works is characters like Cable and Cyclops that have the belt to hide it. My preferred choice would be ball joints waist to go with diaphragm joint, but the reverse ab crunch for the waist is still better than the waist cut.
I never understood why people disliked the hip swivel, more articulation means better figure right? But it does make the figure look weird when their waist is sticking out lol
@@suhtangwong As you said the figure looks weird with that giant oval overhang. But it's a non issue now as double ball joint lower torso fixes that. When executed correctly it has a more organic swiveling with less break up of the design.
@@DesignIncaseit’s just sad that even when hasbro does use double ball, they don’t get the best range because the position and placement of the ball joint and hole is wrong, also the space within the torsos pieces aren’t as hollowed out as they should be for the best range
Let's hope they redo Spiderman 2099.
PLEASEEE HONESTLY! Any body than that pizza spidey
They could use the claw hands from this Spidey
They did from the atsv movie and it’s shit
they did not to long ago 😭
Three placement of the shoulders makes him look so good, how every figure in the future has this shoulder placement
After 10 years, we received a much better Superior Spider-Man
It could be said that this is the Superior version.
@@Raul.Alejo1098 yes it is the superior superior spider man
I ordered mine from entertainment earth, im not geting it til October 😅😢
That old superior spidey had unique buck, years later they gave it another unique buck.
Imo, as awesome as this figure is, i wish they could have based this off the older s.s comics. The different lenses gave him a unique look. This just looks like Spiderman with guantlets and spider arms. Just m.o though. Im still getting it
I like how beefier the shoulders look on this Spidey.
I completely agree with you on the diaphragm cut. This figure should've had that instead of the ab crunch
I think it would lean all directions if he had one?
15:39 his disappointment is immeasurable.
legends just gotta give legends the waist ball joint like the Joes, would help flexible characters to do some crazy work
Most Joes are able to have that because they've got a hip overlay, or are able to fudge it with their design. I don't think it would work well for most marvel designs like spiderman
Mafex makes use that type of articulation for marvel characters. @@the_royal_frick634
@@the_royal_frick634 you say this like Mafex aint basically perfect the forumla, if Mcfarlane can do it, Hasbro could too
@ivanfrias2605 mcfarlane does the same thing as joes. But Mafex is pretty good with it, true. First, though, we should standardize having one at the mid torso before we ask for another. But one problem is that with figures that have a low age recommendation like legends, the internal cuts for articulation tend to be extra small, from what I've seen, and probably wouldn't be as good as mafex without modification. I'd definitely like to see it happen eventually though.
@@the_royal_frick634check out Jada's Street Fighter figures. Rhey have superb articulation.
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Excellent review and i just bought this wave at Target i Love this piece.
From a distance his eyes actually looked like silver chrome paint. How weird.
That's exactly what I believed the first time I saw pictures of this figure.
It was Ultimate Green Goblin wave.
Definitely the Ultimate Green Goblin.
Yep it was loved that wave man.
Yesterday I put the Retro Carnage, Venom Movie Carnage and Superior Spider-Man in my basket. Then I had second thoughts about it because of shipping prices. Decided to go through with it today and they were ALL out of stock when I logged in :(
I got my "Target Exclusive" retro carnage from Toy Snow weeks ago for the win. I'm definitely buying more from them.
Great review my friend. The extra head can it fit the Ben reilly spiderman? Seems this goes more accurate than the huge big eyed one, some didn't like that head sculpt.
From a quick Google of some comic panels, it appears that the tips of the spider legs are supposed to curve towards the outside... which, thinking about it, it does make sense since a lot of bugs' legs tend to curve outwards.
My thoughts on the narrow body is I agree but it also gives him a strong super hero V-tape which ryv spidey lacks.
Why not try the lens reflection thing with a regular spiderman that has plenty of other heads at this point you can swap out? Why not give him the comic accurate thinner/darker lenses, even as an alt head?
Is the body, the body they used for the Iron Spider-Man??
That previous version was terrible. Brown eye lenses, no gauntlets, no mechanical spider legs. This is long overdue.
I still love the Superior Octopus figure.
The superior spider man's eyes were black and in the early comics he had white eyes but never brown
@aaizarizwan3169 which is why that first figure sucks
Thanks for the review! Slimmer torso looks so much better to me. They got rid of the love handles and is rocking some chiseled obliques haha.
took a while but glad they finally made a good version of this!
5:23 It's neat, but it only works if he's up high and swinging around. A strange thing about the alternate head is that the lenses are different shapes. So if you like the default's lenses but don't like the skyline, too bad. 6:55 Better Spider-Man 2099 in the future? 8:25 They should use Octopus's torso for the Sunfire body every now and then. 15:33 In Hasbro's promo images, they crossed the arms to get him to stand; top ones crossed over the bottom ones to the back and the bottom ones crossed under to the front. 17:00 Crazy to think that Iron Spider cost more, had fewer accessories, and less articulation in the waldoes than Superior. I like his upper body. For me, it's the bigger RYV legs that makes it appear small. The crotch piece is also odd because it makes the lower torso look long and has less muscle definition than the rest of the body. His obliques are high and the crotch is low. 20:41 Logan should only come up to Pete's jaw.
Actually, the Dead No More/Clone Conspiracy storyline had Ben Reilly bring back all of the dead Spidey characters (including Doc Ock, who's mind was in the Living Brain at the time). After Peter and Ben fight, Peter uses his webware tech to destroy all the clones, but Ben had made a "perfect" clone free from degeneration. Otto transferred his mind into the body, making a Peter/Otto hybrid clone (comics logic) and then he took the mantle of the superior octopus.
It wasn't until the Spider-geddon storyline that Otto takes up the mantle of the superior Spider-Man again
So glad I preordered this.
This one is my second marvel legends figure. My first one is animated symbiote spider man
I'll most definitely check out ToySnowman cuz as much as I love BBTS they take forever to ship preorders
they should make a stand that has little holes for the arm ends to slide into probably gonna have to glue the back piece in
Superior was the first comic run I read all the way thru in probably 15 years. That first figure was such a disappointment to me. This update looks amazing! Cant wait to get it in hand. Thanks for going the extra mile for the early review!
I usually buy from bigbadtoys but it seems like there the last to ship there figures out. Can’t wait to get mine
Very reliable though.
Octo-Spider-Man is one of favorite Spider-Man figure🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Would've loved a headswap with the 2014 Superior since the new one doesn't come with black lenses
I have to ask. How are YOU getting these WAY before release dates ??? Like..This one? Even on Preorders?! Some say 10/16/24 is the 'release date' .. Toy Snow Man?!!! Ty. I will take a looks!😊
Does his back pack stay on secure ?
Isn't it coming out in the fall?
I never understood why that superior octopus buck never got reused. It to me was one of the best they ever released
I agree!
Great review mate. I hope to buy it on August 1st.
I got mine 28 dollar is it good?
Hopefully they make him with his first suit on the renew your vows body.
Great review as always
Really disappointed that we never got a Kaine figure for the 85 Years line
Sometimes ToySnowman gets stuff so early they should be called Toys Now Man.....lol....👍
LOOKz TUFF ❗️
Yeah I’m not feeling it for the new one I’ll skip him. I’ll just stick with my old on he looks much better and comicy looking . The new one just looks too muscular and buffed and the head shape looks little wider. I love Spider-Man action figures when they look little skinny like the old days . Idc about new improvement joints and appearance I’ll still stick with my old one but overall I hope everyone enjoys the new one.
8:50 YES that class of things i like of you. Be sincerely, not excesive positive
Its just weird they got the shoulders/arms nice, but still using the crummy ab crunch. Dont get me wrong, i pre-ordered this on day 1, but it feels like a easy slam dunk with all the accessories but they just did a lay up with the torso.
They used this body because of the backpack
@@Chris.P.Bacon7 They have no problem retooling body parts. Adding a backpart port to the RYV upper torso would have given them an upper torso that they can reuse later on. This is just lazy because comic Iron Spider had this same problem, and they should have solved it here.
Nice!! Wish you would've atleast shown the RYV Peter headswap on this :(
The head is packed away somewhere
Looks a little similar to Spider shot and Ben Reilly colors
no one notice how the eyes are not even??????
Did Hasbro really just a give a Spidey figure proportionate shoulders 🤯
It looks like it would make a good older miles.
Yeah i kinda wish Miles had better classic suit figures
light blue classic and symbiote spidey on this buck next please Hasbro
Better than the original by quite a lot. Not very familiar with the character, so this is purely a "coolness" factor decision. Need to see it in hand, I think.
Wow it was fast, still waiting Hasbro shipp 😔
How do you have this already lol
What, no comparison with classic Otto?!
Have they ever shared the same comic panel??????
@@MCUcollector24 Superior Spider-Man vol.3 #3
bro i buy final swing tom holland marvel legends from toy swoman and i didnt recieve it the store didnt give me the mony back 40 usd and i call the store 2 times and they hung up on me soo they are scammers toyswoman.
Cool looking figure 👍👍👍👍☕🥞🍳
This is not fair it. It’s not even out yet.
I mean, I have it, so it is out
@@MCUcollector24 it’s not out on Amazon yet
I'll take an ab cut and waist swivel over a very limited diaphragm cut from Hasbro
I may be the only person to think this but, Dr Oct taking over Peter parker's body and calling him superior is just plain lame. 🤦🏼♂️
It’s a villain thing I think. Superior Iron Man=villain. Otto thought he was superior over Peter
It made sense with his goal as spider-man
The lines of the webs on the mask is looking terrible rsrs.
That’s how they are tho in the newer superior comics
The web lines on the Superior suit are messy like that.
I'm not really feeling the reflection in the eyes, it just looks like barcode to me, I think they could of done it better
As much as I want this figure I think I’m gonna end up canceling because of the ugly waist 🫠