It's right that the systemic problems of the Republic in the prequels are still there for the New Republic to face. To show it otherwise would be disrespectful to the lore and just lazy writing.
execution is still a problem: when all the producers are engineering on-screen toys, costumes, and environmental designs, no one is really digging into the nuances of this ‘direct democracy’ under a royal family apparently who empowers former Separatists without reconciliation and live off the backs of an enslaved populace of sentient machines
I think it's kinda boring how they made the new republic have the same exact issues as the old one, at least give us a sense of progress, now it seems like the rebellion was pointless.
@Homer not exactly a high bar. you could say britian has a better system than the nazis did, but that still leaves britian with several domestic and internation problems that effect itself.
Hey man, I love your videos! My mom passed away last Valentine’s Day and we used to watch Star Wars together, she introduced me when I was a little boy and it changed my life:) your videos have helped me this past year, escaping and diving into Star Wars for a little bit is a great gift. Thank you and I love you mom
The New Republic is the kind of government you get when the chaotic good faction actually wins and ends up in power... chaotic goods aren't usually competent in operating and regulating a government. I think it's cool how the Mandalorian dives into this trope. Same thing actually happens in Star Wars Legends as well! Just takes a long time to happen. Not as immediate as it happens in The Mandalorian.
yup, the new republic worked best as a rebellion during the war, once they installed a full blown government things started to go side ways and you see they returning to that prime a bit in the (horrible) new sequels once they rekindle that rebel spirit.
@@theliato3809 years of war. Not government. They define themselves in contrast to the empire. They arent willing to do anything that might seem even a little authoritarian. Which makes a galactic government difficult to hold together. They end up being more a united nations thing than even a confederacy
When you were talking about people with money being isolated from them having to care, I thought you would also include the clip from Andor when the guy meeting Mon Mothma said his money made it so he didn’t have to care what others think. LOVE these government related videos!!!
Yes, that was why I support a Republic, but unfortunately it has been taken over by some evil overlord, who manipulate the stupid and start wars to gain more power. Yep, we should of sided with the less cultured hicks in the back country that wanted to separate to get away from the corruption that has taken over our country and let the more populated regions suffer for what they did.
Hello, a Sikh here. Just a small correction. Kirpan actually means “sword”. It is the bare minimum a Sikh must carry. Weapons are a major part of our religion and culture. We literally worship them. In reality a Sikh is supposed to carry a sword, a knife, a fire arm, a hand dagger and know how to ride a horse in battle. Or in these days a car suffices. A Sikh must also be Shastar vidya (a master of war). So a Sikh must learn warfare and know how to fight when it’s needed. A Sikh must also be a member of a Misl (clan) or Jathabandi (armed group). - Although weapons are our religion and when the mandalorian said this it resonated to me on a person level. Sikhs are to use weapons or war as the last resort. In defence of self or the innocent others. Which is a trait more akin to the Jedi. In fact the Jedi order is very similar to the real life Sikh Nihangs. A warrior order that numbers about 10,000. - The only country where we can really actually practice these traditions is the USA. Although I as a Sikh do own a fire arm and a kirpan. I live in Canada and hence cannot fully appreciate my people’s culture. But Sikhs in America practice it to the fullest extent. For this reason I see America as a beacon of freedom in the world and I praise America a great deal.
@@jameson1239 different countries and jurisdictions within countries have different requirements you have to meet to carry, not to mention that there are different kinds of carrying
This wasn't a filler episode. The Mandos have a lucrative Defense Contract with a wealthy independent planet which will probably fund the reconstruction of Mandalore; Plazir-15 is also going to sponser Mandalore as an Independent system. Some people might not like Jack Black in Star Wars... but I'm pretty sure Plazir-15 is going to be very important.
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Jack Black and Lizzo were a bit over the top but Plazir-15 was a pretty cool planet. It was a change from the desert/lava hellscapes.
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy Her acting was pretty atrocious. Seeing huge stars in Star Wars pulls me out of the immersion. It shows how truly lazy the writing team is. Hey, lets just throw Jack Black and Lizzo in there so people don't notice that were totally out of ideas!
The sequence of Din and Bo chasing the SBD through the nightime streets was great, but it reminded me of all the videoes I've watched on droid sapience and their lack of rights. I've never seen a SBD run like that in all of Star Wars, and the body language was very much of a person running for it's life. I was kind of disappointed when the chase ended with it's death. I would be curious to hear what a 'free minded' battle droid has to say on their new station in life and to someone like Din, who has a clear, justifed predjudice against them.
even stranger to me was when in the robot bar you had all the robots agree that they wished to find the problem with the malfunctioned not only due to the fact that they would be scrapped but that they genuinely want to uplift their creators. sure you could say that the population is reliant on droids but that scene you saw the droids appreciate given the responsibility of being the foundation of their organic masters civilization. they are treated with much more importance than most droids are in the galaxy, and sure its still a form of servitude, but the idea of droids being happy to take up the main responsibility of their organic master's society brings an even deeper consideration. not only are they sentient but that scene indicates that they have emotions such as loyalty and a sense of responsibility of not borderline caretakership of their organics, opening up philosophical can of worms that blurrs the lines between servants and foundations of society for droids. could droids be more satisfied with their position if they were given such responsability in other worlds? its a strange question.
@@sovietunion7643 The organic population also seem to be pretty hands off with the droids, leaving them to it to fulfil their jobs without direct control, interference or oppression. The overseer we see at that factory/facility supervising the super battle droids isn't an organic, its another (1st Gen) battle droid. No droid is seen being mistreated by organics (besides the malfunctioning SBD which Bo Katan destroys), in fact IIRC the only organics we see directly interacting with droids are the Urgnaught mechanics, who do their work maintaining the droids with diligence and pride. This is probably as close to a droid Utopia as droids are ever going to get. They get to fulfil their (newly re-programmed) peaceful base function without direct mistreatment or direct interference from organics, and they enjoy some degree of freedom and self determination with their publicly operating own droid bars.
It's funny that din says something along the lines of "it's a battle droid what did you expect" when any veteran of a war might respond violently or fearfully when stressed. I love droids and I fully appreciate din's droid racism. I do wish we had some more droid focused SW
I feel like a lot of people are overlooking the agreement between Bo-Katan and Lizzos character about their planet recognizing Mandalore and petitioning the new republic on their behalf. A line like that isn’t just a throw away line that is definitely setting the ground work for something major.
Alright, ima be honest that title had me really worried lmao, but I’m happy to say that you really hit the nail on the head. Honestly my biggest gripe with the sequel trilogy was how little they were willing to touch on the actual new republic or anything remotely political.
Yeah so many missed opportunities they had begun some interesting world building in the thirty years in between but it never really turned into anything
@@GenerationTech true. It may be a case of absolute power corrupts absolutely. But I'm not sure. I can't tell if it's how much freedom they were given to do whatever they wanted for the sequels, or it was truly only Rian and JJ that were to blame for th failures of the sequels.
Mando noting how reliant the people were on droids was pretty good, and I liked seeing old Clone Wars droids again. But I do still prefer the EU version of the New Republic, instead of being an inefficient and ignorant wasteful organization, the New Republic fell apart after being withered away by many Imperial warlords, Thrawn Campaign, the Yuuzhang Vong War, and Second Galactic Civil War by Jacen Solo
What EU did you read? The New Republic in the EU lost all support from Leia, Han, Luke, etc due to its chronic inaction, multiple times over. Isaard blasted her way out of Coruscant, killing millions, and released a virus that killed non-humans. What did the NR do about it? Nothing. During the Bacta War, they knew full well that taking Thyferra and wresting control of the Bacta supply away from Isaard was their best bet, and what did they do? Nothing. Wedge and his squadron had to defect and take care of it themselves. And let's not forget that their treatment of the Vong is VERY similar to current canon's NR treating the Imperial Remnant; the canon NR ignores the Remnant until it's too late, like the EU NR ignoring the Vong in favor of "maintaining the image of peace" until Coruscant had basically fallen.
This New Republic are acting like brain dead troglodytes who got beaten in the head with stupid sticks when they were already developmentally challenged.......
And lets not forget the coup orchestrated by former imperial members against a hostile supreme chancellor who opted to use mandalorians to besiege the jedi. A coup that involved teaming up with an emergent faction of sith, cause that never goes wrong. The EU NR definitely wasn't perfect, it suffered from many of the same failings as the old one by the time Disney started their continuity. But I do feel like it was at least a bit better than Disney's NR. At least they had the wisdom to not end the military and scrap all the imperial ships.
personally i prefer the canon that the new republic was too decentralized because people hated centralization after the empire, so the new republic was so weak, that it only took the destruction of a few seats of power for the new repulbic to fall apart completely, as the political power was barely there at all. it makes a lot of sense as people have a tendency to go to opposite extremes after times of stress which can be equally as bad. ask someone in the outer rim whether they prefered the empire or new republic and they will tell you that both situations had attacks and unsafety. whether its pirates attacking due to neglect or imperial troops, it changes little. at least the empire was honest and was very straight about not caring of the outer rim, and did take out some of the worst of the pirate problem, the new republic however acts like it cares so much about everyone and then does nothing about even the mid rim, let alone the outer reaches. its not even the new republic's fault as many systems didn't even join the new republic because people became so distrustful of big government because of the empire. honestly i like that canon the most because it shows how opposite extremes can be just as destructive as the main problem in the first place.
“No political system asks more from its people and no political system delivers more to its people” Some politician down the road is gonna steal that line I’m calling it now
I found the new environment, i.e. within a sci-fi city environment besides Coruscant, a very refreshing addition as we get to see other developed sci-fi cities on other worlds as the Star Wars galaxy is meant to be. I also found the noir detective and forensic aspects equally refreshing as it reminds me of the Jedi Temple bombing story arc. I also enjoyed Season 3's deeper look into the criticisms and flaws of democracy when not properly balanced..... as seen with the flaws of the corrupt, bloated Galactic Republic and the New Republic which swung to the other extreme to the point of apparent complacency and incompetence or "burying their heads in the sand"(?). Finally, seeing possible hints within this episode about how Din is going to fix IG-11 later in the story. I mean come on, that city has a lot of hints about getting the proper droid technicians/programmers and finding possible spare parts to fix IG-11 since we have droids dating back to the Separatist and Clone Wars eras.
Balanced thought and critical thinking as always. I'm always not sure where you're going Alan, but your content makes it worth watching till the end. Bravo.
Thank you for this review where you highlighted the flaws and advantages democracies can offer. In a time where democracy has a hard time globally it's important to know what we have to watch out for and what we can be proud of.
These "fillers" are setting the background for many different aspects. The Mandalorian people and their hierarchy, and how they survive. How other people, places, politics are going to affect them. But so many people are so down on eveything to spite Disney et al. that they are willing to run Star Wars aground. Thank you for the insight, without trying to be spiteful and destructive.
I for one am happy the mandolarian season 3 is fleshing out the star wars universe. There are more planets in the galaxy than Tatooine and Tatooine 2: Electric Boogaloo. The episode with the Doctor as the main character is one of my favorites
I loved the details in this episode about the political situation in the Galaxy. It really bothered me that teh New Republic was presented as the same democratic monolith as the rpevious one and yet it fell so easily. It was also strange to me that the movements like the Separatists and Partitionnists didn't make a new decentralized system. The Mandalorian is giving us interesting details about how independant worlds are rising in the Outer Rim. The Galaxy has known in the last century a demographic shift that makes non authoritarian centralized galaxy wide government impossible. I hope that in the new movies 15 years after Exegol they at least explore that aspect of a Galaxy that is not united and partitionned into countless world governments, federations, empires. I don't have much expectations story wise but if they can at least expand the lore so we can over-analyse it. Also ust a quick question about the Dooku fan commissioner. Did Luke ever make public the truth about the Empire and the Clone Wars? He had everything in Obi wan's diaries. He knows Dooku was a sith and Palapatine orchestrated the whole war. In a galaxy still reeling from the Clone War, it would be a useful thing to leak to challenge the legitimacy of the Empire. And also transparency and the right to know what the hell happened. The Resistance knew Palapatine was a Sith but did the whole Galaxy know this was all part of a thousands of years old religious War? Finally will you do a video or a short on the Romeo and Juliet of the Star Wars Galaxy ? "Two species, both alike in dignity, In fair Mon Calamari, where we lay our scene, From ancient Grudge break to new mutiny, Where mollusk blood make civil fin unclean" And all that...
I loved this episode! It was FUN! Between the Hyperloop and the Blade Runner ("Not fish, snake scaaaaale) bits and the reverse Cantina with ALL THE DROIDS, I was giggling like an idiot. All that and social commentary too. More of this please!
First time I watched the episode I wanted to hate the cameos cause they threw me off so bad. Five times later and I'm really hoping this episode comes back around and we get more of them in the future. They are actually pretty endearing, and I love when Din ends up adopting new family around the galaxy.
holup.... you watched this particular episode.. 6 times??!?!?!? bro what tf are u doing man what new information are you getting by watching it 6 times??
Take it from someone living in probably the most direct democracy currently existing: We don't get sh*t done, bicker incessantly and 90% of the stuff we vote on four times a year is absolutely irrelevant. We DID however managed to mess up massively by initiatives or referenda won or lost by a minimal majorities. Theoretically everyone is eligible to be voted into parliament or even the very top tier of government yet for some reason parliament and subsequently the federal council is full of billionaires for some reason...
"It's the worst form of government, besides all the others." And very good insights on your part. I, too, am worried for the world, and the rise of uninformed or miss-informed populism.
this is why.... this is why this episode and episode 3 are two of my most favorite of the entire series; the nuanced adult and highminded story telling.
i feel like the creators felt rlly political then and its definitely leading up to something but these episodes are also heavily criticised because of how inappropriately planned and how pointless it feels in a short period of time. like im sure theyre gonna use these episodes to link up with a larger story but maybe having 3/4 of an episode centred around 2 characters we barely remember isnt the best idea, after all its the mandalorian, not the new republic
So I would like to share an observation. I agree with Alan, it's not filler. It's all part of a bigger picture. What we're seeing is the beginning of a new Mandalorian empire. If you remember during the clone Wars, mandalor led a thousand independent systems. Now they have two. Navarro and the pleasure planet. And that ancient order of independent regency that grogo was knighted into, that's going to be his version of the Jedi order. Mark my words. They will be the royal guards of the new Empire led by Sir Grogu
@@overstimulatedboy01 yeah, that might be a good idea to see where it has all gone, I’ve definitely enjoyed it, like it’s awesome to see them doing stuff and have a detective episode like this but at times it can feel a bit indecisive, though the “filler” often does set stuff up like the pirates on nevarro or the giant bird hunt thing
Thank you for making these kinds of videos! I have no idea how people complain that politics should be kept out of Star Wars when Star Wars has been inherently political since the very start. Keep up the good work!
No way personally I’m Sikh and I’m so glad you touched on that it’s a great analogy man. Glad to see other people have knowledge much respect to u brotha
It´s just so wholesome to watch your analyses. Let me be frank, before I found you, I was pretty much watching Erik and Robothead, but since I found your channel I have rarely watched them. Why? Because your calm and steady demeanor is pure balm for my Vet-Soul. While the Overhyping of NR and the constant bickering of RH are startling me. Thank you for being who you are and for putting intellect and calmness before hype and exhaustion. You are my favourite Star Wars CC and I hope you stay as you are.
This episode raise a few questions for me. If there is droid bar, do driods pay credits? If they do, does droids get paid for their work? And they seem capable of leisure and fear of death, doesn't that mean it is unethical to abuse and exploit them?
i mean the star wars universe has had things like the sith empire existent which was pretty dark and authoritarian, let alone things like how the Mandalorians used to be or the ancient rakata infiinite empire enslaving literally every species in the galaxy, point is sentient organic species already brutalize and enslave other organic species quite commonly. why would they care about robots who they often don't even understand are sentient.
well characters like c3po can feel pain and show discomfort at moving for long periods of time and he and others show signs of individual wants and desires, I'd say yes it is unethical to exploit them as they for the most part can feel pain and are capable of free thought, it is arguably worse than most think as in the clone wars the b1 droids often showed resentment towards their orders but could not abandon the war like clones could, now if owners wanted to be ethical without getting rid of droids they might remove the sensors inside droids that makes them "feel" pain you would have to monitor them more closely if they themselves don't feel anything wrong, or they would hire droids that have no "individual thought" like the oom droids, more simple and capable of receiving commands
this episode was a Solid B+ or even an A-. I thoroughly liked it and even drove the plot further with a 'diplomatic' mission to boot to solidify the first Ally for Bo.
i took a long break star wars and now that im back nothing feels like filler, its great to see such fascinating and insightful themes in fun characters and plots. I feel bad for hate-fans
There's also a pretty blatant commentary on meritocracy & aristocracy with the situation of Bo-Katan. While she's both royal by blood and probably one of the best fighters in the galaxy... She really hasn't learned how to properly lead and unite people. But she's learning. At it's core, most forms of government are flawed by the fact that people are involved. As they say, "People suck." Collectively and individually we are definitely not infallible. And sometimes we are lucky if we get a second chance at it. The French have already tried 5 times.
The early Britons, before what we know as England had united into a single kingdom, practised a hybrid of aristocracy and meritocracy. It was a rare case where the throne or inherited positions would pass directly from father to son, but rather would step sideways to a younger brother or eldest nephew rather than their own son. This was because while someone had to be in "the family" to have the position, the most capable individual of the choices available would often be chosen by the nobility. When the son eventually became mature enough to lead then it may be their turn.
Thank you for exploring the ethical nuance of authoritarian and authoritative regimes. It’s incredibly important that people not get comfortable and potentially complicit to a government with fundamental issues.
As someone who isn't against direct democracy, I think it's great that they featured it. The problem with this one was that the working class didn't vote (the droids). I personally wouldn't call plazir15 a true democracy. Direct democracy is by the people for the people (representatives are a non-direct democracy). The droids are part of the people. Therefore plazir 15 is closer to an Olygarchy in my opinion.
How is it that one of the most sane, pragmatic, and empathetic political takes I see online comes from a Star Wars UA-cam channel? Top tier content both in-universe and out.
Man you nailed it I think George would love this video perfect gets the point of starwars taking real political ideas and spinning them into fantasy's, planet systems or subtle underlying plots
Totally agree. You don't have to look far to see obvious parallels with the current state of the real world. I feel a lot of Star Wars "politics" has become an extremely relevant cautionary tale.
I mean the entire episode itself was a literal detour. The plot basically grinned to a halt and had little to no character development other than what was at the surface level. You could skip 90% of the episode and not be lost whatsoever
Been watching you for a couple years now, I love how you tie in real world issues with what you talk about. Also love the XR. Cant beat a Honda, especially and air cooled beast like that!
I keep getting reminded that most anarchists would prefer a balanced democratic consensus based juxtaposition rather than an artificial one based on greed, avarice, and suspicions. ❤
I'm part of the minority that liked this episode too. The Celebrities were there to show just how bad a planet run by Twitter would be, the rest of the episode was a romp through the clone wars and the droid bar was awesome. I get that Mando season 3 isn't as good as season 2 but I'm gonna squeeze as much enjoyment out of it as I can. KK's days are numbered and then we can fully reclaim Star Wars!
One of the things that really struck me about the new republic is how problems arise because of the banality of the system. They’re too trusting or too confident to think they can undo imperial indoctrination and too apathetic to deal with local warlords like what we saw when they didn’t send a strike force to deal with the pirates. Gotta love Plasir 15 because it asks a similar question to Atomic Heart which is if people don’t have to work then what happens when suddenly all of that infrastructure vanishes
Dude, I love seeing videos like this and I love your opinion on the political systems of not only the Star Wars universe, but the world as well. I am most definitely a polisci / philosophy nerd and it's cool to see you merge these subjects with the Star Wars universe. Keep making them and I'll keep supporting!
Love this quote from Terry Pratchett's Guards! Guards!, I think it pretty much sums up what is happening with New Republic: “You see, the only thing the good people are good at is overthrowing the bad people. And you're good at that, I'll grant you. But the trouble is it's the only thing you're good at. One day it's the ringing of the bells and the casting down of the evil tyrant, and the next it's everyone sitting around complaining that ever since the tyrant was overthrown no one's been taking out the trash. Because the bad people know how to plan. It's part of the specification, you might say. Every evil tyrant has a plan to rule the world. The good people don't seem to have the knack.”
Gen Tech, I enjoy almost all of your videos and I'm glad somebody is able to go "Yeah, I liked this" Too many people are fixated on their personal view of what the story should be and then just getting mad and hateful because it isn't matching their headcanon. You also seem to generally be able to be chill and respectful of views that don't match yours, which is refreshing in this fandom. We can like and dislike different parts of star wars and still respect other fans. edit: don't forget the tossing of imperial rations on star destroyers.
well people can have different value systems and can point out problems with either system. poltics doesn't have to be this thing where its always my group vs yours which is what is happening with so much main stream politics nowadays.
@@sovietunion7643 Not meaning politics by that but yes. It doesn't have to be a us vs them. The problem with star wars fans recently (and fans in other settings for games or shows) Is that instead of going "I dislike this for these reasons. You like it because of those reasons. That's okay let's have a civil discussion." it goes into "Well if you like X, you are stupid and don't know anything." Or the good old "I can't see how anybody enjoys this show at all, it's all crappy writing and pointless."
@@sovietunion7643 Oh hell yes. I commented to friends about the Ashoka trailer. "Man, this looks cool. Can't wait for the internet to start attacking anybody who dares enjoy it though"
Thank you dude I totally agree with your opening statements about people saying everything is filler and how much this season sucks, I love this season. Especially because I’m also a fan of the Clone Wars and Rebels. This was a great episode, lots a callbacks and moved our heroes further in the story. Also it was just corky and fun. So hyped for Ahsoka!
I really loved this episode, it show another world, it bring back the droids from the prequels and show how ex CIS members though of the empire and new republic, I feel the vibe of the first part as a blade runner act. and jack black is always a plus. besides, it left the foundations of an independent mandalore recognize by the new republic.
honestly just the part with the battle droid getting increasingly worried as mando kicks the super battle droids is the funniest part to me. its even funnier because the droid makes a good point in that "yeah their deactivated but they are still super battle droids and made for warfare." honestly the clone wars got me too hooked on b1s being light comedic relief, and its amazing how even after both the clone wars and the empire falling the little droids are still around to make everyone slightly annoyed/laugh at the same time.
I have to ask! How are you able to do these in depth political analysis? I understand it from experience, from doing politics for 10 years (and yes it sucked) but you are on the money with these observations and it's THRILLING! You articulate what I experienced for sure, and I absolutely love your video's. Thank you, if you're comfortable can you share your background? Best, Charmie
There was a *LOT* packed into this one tiny episode. Also, there's always gonna be somebody to kick the stool out from under someone else. It's *always* going to be a fight for the control of resources - such as raw materials and labor.
To anyone who says episodes like this are filler, I would simply argue that people like and notice different things. I love that jack black and Christopher Loyd were put in the star wars universe. And seeing other parts of the star wars galaxy is refreshing. To me no episode could ever be filler.
@@daefaron Given to how many Mandalorians came to pledge their allegiance to Bo-katan before the Night of a Thousand Tears, he could have replenished his fighter squad
If there's one thing I know about this series, there's no such thing as "filler episodes". It's all going to come together in the final two episodes. Edit: Everyone is assuming that the PLANET is called Plazir 15. Suppose Plazir is the name of the planet, but the CITY they went to is City 15? It can't be the only city on the planet, and would need some kind of designation, right? Also, having 15 planets in the star system, with the 15th being in the "habitable zone" seems kinda far fetched, don't you think?
One of your best videos on the politics side. There is some amazing social psychology research on the pitfalls and abuses of direct democracy models that weee done int the 1970’s (many towns in Vermont practice a form of direct democracy). I like Winston Churchill’s “Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others that have been tried.”
This was a pretty cool episode I enjoyed it very much. It was nice seeing a thriving beautiful society in the Star Wars universe. All the worlds are deserts cities or crazy harsh and dangerous environments
Plazir 15 was an eye refresher for new planets introduced. Since Andor it seems like all the new planets looked too similar in terms of landscape but this was more unique!
As a Brit, the reason why Brexit took so long was that the people who wanted it weren't in power. The referendum was a cynical promise that the ruling party had no intention of following through upon and expected to win the referendum for Remain, so they had no plans in place. They then appointed a Remain voter to oversee the process, who immediately lost her majority, and was eventually booted out in disgrace, to be replaced by a Brexiteer. By this point 3 years had passed. A Brexiteer was appointed, but the parliament obstructed him, because the overwhelming majority of parliamentary MPs were against leaving the EU, causing the process to once again grind to a halt, resulting in the 2019 election, that the Brexiteers won in a landslide. Being a mouth-breather, the Brexiteer PM BoJo then forced through a half-baked policy to get his party over the finish line (in name rather than in practice), and hoped that no one would notice the gaping holes in his plan. Now those short-sighted fudges are continuing to haunt the conservatives, who now seem to be adopting a policy of "actually let's sort-of rejoin the EU while pretending we're not". The only people with a clear vision for Brexit, i.e. Farage, was shut out by the two party system and had no chance of implementing the changes he campaigned for.
@@needtoknow6423 Exactly. In any large-scale human society, there is going to be a de-facto government, even if people don't call it that. It's simply inevitable
At some point I think it needs to be addressed how many megastars are in the liveaction SW series. like some of the scenes kinda depend on the fanservice of the actors they chose. would this have been the same without katie sackhoff, lizzo, DocBrown, and jackblack? I think I'm going to make it a drinking game. anytime I see a new character that is already a megastar I'm gonna take a shot.
jack black honestly worked in this case. he is known for being a bit silly yet knows how to be serious when its important to the story, so him playing a decadent yet somewhat shrewd leader of a pleasure planet fit his personality perfectly
“Democracy is the worst form of government, except all those other forms” -Winston Churchill The more direct a democracy, the more vital it is that the entire population have a broad, deep, and fair education. And in that scenario, how vital is it that teachers be above reproach. Good luck on all counts, especially when it comes to instilling a selfless morality that enables someone to care about strangers…
I liked the episode, including all the cameos. It seems that within the construct of available technology, Plazir 15 is doing just fine. The droids there are OK with working with biologicals and the people seemed happy. Maybe a bit pollyannish, but after the chaos of the Empire/Rebellion, at least they have some peaceful times to enjoy. BTW, what's with the tag at 13:10?
It was important to show the Republic getting rid of and decommissioning imperial equipment in the name of "peace" which explains what happened to all of that equipment and why they couldn't fight back better against the New Order when it appeared. Many people have said what happened to all of those Star destroyers that the new Republic inherited from the Empire, now we know.
Yes, this was a deceprively deep episode of The Mandalorian, I liked it very much, great world building, old school sci-fi plot ( Asimov-eske I'd say), love the set designs, and the humor too, it wasn't overly funny like people are saying. Frankly people's complains about this episode were highly superficial and misguided.
1. Leia *Organa* Solo was not the daughter of Vader (the justification given for her political downfall), she was the daughter of Bail *Organa.* Literally Rebel Royalty. 2. Leia Organa Solo would never allow the Rebel Alliance to be broken up. This is the reason for the existence of the Resistance. 3. The New Republic's capital system was always changing so that an Episode VII situation could never happen. And yet, _AND YET,_ JJ Abrams disappeared it in Episode VII. Please explain that plot hole.
Thank you for giving this episode a proper analysis. Too many people are either wowed by the star power or complaining about it, as if sweet Lizzo holding "baby Yoda" somehow was a slight to their core of their being. They completely missed the story of human dependence on technology and the philosophical issues generated as that technology approaches self-awareness, a topic that for decades has been in the realm of science fiction, but with the debate around ChatGPT 4, becoming very real.
See them building their new houses/armories and such, maybe a bit of farmland too? I'd love it. Some of the internet would immediately REEEEE and attack anybody who liked it because "filler" though.
@@daefaron I know and it’s unfortunate - so much of Star Wars is world building and I love the “filler” episodes for it. Plus you know there will be a payoff with how the series is going.
I honestly doesn’t believe that the numerous US foreign involvments since WWII, let it be soft of militaristic was ever “in good faith”. It was either fueled by ideological reasons (South American CIA involvments, Cuba, Vietnam etc) or purely money. (Lybia, Iraq and like every other place having oil). The rise of authothatism, or we what we should call it in most cases, fascism has a load to do with the rise of fascism in thr US. As someone living in one of said states (Hungary) I’m too are very concerned.
I think the interesting thing about Plazir-15 is ...it really looked for all the world like our heroes were getting set up for a typical Lotus Eaters/secretly dystopian thing in that world, but it actually seems like a place with a largely well-meaning, comfortable, therefore generous and friendly populace and that was really OK to a point. They may have been subtler about the challenges of *direct democracy* ..possibly like we sometimes see about say California's rather expedient simple-majority binding referendums process. Which can easily be turned to bad things with lots of disinformation if people aren't paying enough attention, but also can mean well-intentioned people, over time, vote for two good things that may conflict with each other at least in the ways and means. It's kinda like people wanted to tidy up neighborhoods and improve property values, ended up voting in too much power for the busybody HOA's, people say they want a more comfy shopping area, the auto repair chains propose bills to close down their smaller competition or even driveway wrenching. I do think where direct democracy might actually help would be about voting on desired *results* rather than necessarily proposed bills themselves. If you want to reduce CO2 emissions, don't ban any but factory-original parts (what major automakers and dealer markup beneficiaries love) ....even in older applications where improvements are cleaner, (side-effect, rashes of catalytic converter theft: at first it was for the metals, then quickly became a side-trade in selling dubious used parts to people when it's what they need to fix it after their cats got stolen....) .... test cars for what they actually *produce.* When only a minority out of people understand a technology or issue or the people involved in something, that can make direct democracy, especially in a media-disinfo environment, somewhat problematic and *exploitable.* But there's a lot more that people really agree on than it seems when politics present it much more like a split-down-the-middle over partisan ideologies and such, especially in a 'both-sides' 'controversy-driven' opinion-based media. But if you ask simply, "Do you want equality and justice/nondiscrimination for racial and ethnic minorities, women and LGBT people?" vast majorities say *yes.* That may not be reflected in what people get elected do with the power and how it's proportioned and obtained even in our representative democracy. Even a lot of thorny issues that become huge tugs-of-war between extremes could probably benefit from some more direct polling of the people on, "Is this OK?" "Is this OK?" "How bout this here?" If we did that about some things like what civilian arms Americans are comfortable with and what's 'too much'... I think we'd get some pretty coherent answers as opposed to trying to argue about tidy legalistic definitions and treating particular ideologies or extremes as 'the will of the people.'
Lots of Anti-Democracy Chuds are reading the episode's analysis of Democracy very incorrectly. Democracy is a valuable system with an educated population. If you have a population that is uneducated, or largely susceptible to miseducation- _cough cough_ *America,* then your system can easily be undermined. The lessons to learn, are that there are necessary safety barriers and education needed to keep ignorant or bad faith actors from causing long-lasting damage in governance.
What I loved about the episode is the “bright side” of the dystopian Star Wars universe. What prosperity technology (even if in the form of used droids) can acomplish. Imagine all the resources of the galaxy going towards such goals instead of military founding or megalomaniac megaprojects or getting lost due to curruption. Imagine a few Dyson Spheares instead of the Death Stars. The workers of the galaxy should really rise up...
@@leetimberman8860 it’s absolutely insane to pretend Lizzo is untalented. So yea feels racial ngl. I don’t know what’s goin on In your head. Maybe youre just a jealous amateur actor I don’t know. But it feels racial 🤷🏿♂️
@YaBoiRaji shaking your half-naked ass is not talent. Whitney Houston could sing, the Pointer Sisters could sing. And they don't have to show their bare asses. On the other side, you have Madonna, also talentless and white. Your arguments are so weak, and it's not because you are black. So don't fall back on that excuse and be a man.
as someone who lives in a country whit direct "democracy" i can't hel but give you the reson, for just an example, everybody always complains our congress has too many representatives that are just not very usful, but in a rferendum a couple a months ago, bc the president is weak and inepet, ppl ended up votinf no in a referendum in whicho one of the things that were asked was presisly if we wanted to reduce the nomber of congress ppl
I really like seeing that the New Republic has its own issues. No government is perfect, and I was worried they would show it being all perfect.
It's right that the systemic problems of the Republic in the prequels are still there for the New Republic to face. To show it otherwise would be disrespectful to the lore and just lazy writing.
execution is still a problem: when all the producers are engineering on-screen toys, costumes, and environmental designs, no one is really digging into the nuances of this ‘direct democracy’ under a royal family apparently who empowers former Separatists without reconciliation and live off the backs of an enslaved populace of sentient machines
It actually makes the weakness of the new republic in the sequels a lot more plausible ad well.
I think it's kinda boring how they made the new republic have the same exact issues as the old one, at least give us a sense of progress, now it seems like the rebellion was pointless.
@Homer not exactly a high bar. you could say britian has a better system than the nazis did, but that still leaves britian with several domestic and internation problems that effect itself.
Hey man, I love your videos! My mom passed away last Valentine’s Day and we used to watch Star Wars together, she introduced me when I was a little boy and it changed my life:) your videos have helped me this past year, escaping and diving into Star Wars for a little bit is a great gift. Thank you and I love you mom
Sorry for your loss man 🕊️
May the force be with you brother, always
Damn bro, sorry for your loss. Lost my dad on Valentine’s Day 2018. Changed that day for the rest of your life.
She sounds great keep your head up 🥲💪🏿👍🏿
Sorry for your loss
The New Republic is the kind of government you get when the chaotic good faction actually wins and ends up in power... chaotic goods aren't usually competent in operating and regulating a government. I think it's cool how the Mandalorian dives into this trope. Same thing actually happens in Star Wars Legends as well! Just takes a long time to happen. Not as immediate as it happens in The Mandalorian.
yup, the new republic worked best as a rebellion during the war, once they installed a full blown government things started to go side ways and you see they returning to that prime a bit in the (horrible) new sequels once they rekindle that rebel spirit.
Why wouldn’t the NR be able to handle it though?
They have a great leadership with experience and organziation from years of work.
kinda like when the US first formed
@@theliato3809 years of war. Not government. They define themselves in contrast to the empire. They arent willing to do anything that might seem even a little authoritarian. Which makes a galactic government difficult to hold together. They end up being more a united nations thing than even a confederacy
@@kevintan5497 Correct, the New Republic seems to have a lot of the same issues the United States had under the Articles of Confederation
When you were talking about people with money being isolated from them having to care, I thought you would also include the clip from Andor when the guy meeting Mon Mothma said his money made it so he didn’t have to care what others think.
LOVE these government related videos!!!
One of the oldest criticisms against Democracy's is that they elect candy makes not dentists.
What?
@@robertnelson9599 I'm assuming he means candy makers 🤷🏾♂️
Sweet talkers and fixers.
Yes, that was why I support a Republic, but unfortunately it has been taken over by some evil overlord, who manipulate the stupid and start wars to gain more power. Yep, we should of sided with the less cultured hicks in the back country that wanted to separate to get away from the corruption that has taken over our country and let the more populated regions suffer for what they did.
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Hello, a Sikh here. Just a small correction. Kirpan actually means “sword”. It is the bare minimum a Sikh must carry. Weapons are a major part of our religion and culture. We literally worship them. In reality a Sikh is supposed to carry a sword, a knife, a fire arm, a hand dagger and know how to ride a horse in battle. Or in these days a car suffices. A Sikh must also be Shastar vidya (a master of war). So a Sikh must learn warfare and know how to fight when it’s needed. A Sikh must also be a member of a Misl (clan) or Jathabandi (armed group).
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Although weapons are our religion and when the mandalorian said this it resonated to me on a person level. Sikhs are to use weapons or war as the last resort. In defence of self or the innocent others. Which is a trait more akin to the Jedi. In fact the Jedi order is very similar to the real life Sikh Nihangs. A warrior order that numbers about 10,000.
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The only country where we can really actually practice these traditions is the USA. Although I as a Sikh do own a fire arm and a kirpan. I live in Canada and hence cannot fully appreciate my people’s culture. But Sikhs in America practice it to the fullest extent. For this reason I see America as a beacon of freedom in the world and I praise America a great deal.
Granted there's plenty of countries with relatively relaxed restrictions on arms, the US is just extra relaxed and iconic for that
@@jonathanpilcher337 most countrys aren’t lax enough to allow every day carry
@@jameson1239 well there's gotta be at least a good few
@@jonathanpilcher337 the only country’s I can find where every day carry is allowed is Bosnia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, and of course the USA
@@jameson1239 different countries and jurisdictions within countries have different requirements you have to meet to carry, not to mention that there are different kinds of carrying
This wasn't a filler episode. The Mandos have a lucrative Defense Contract with a wealthy independent planet which will probably fund the reconstruction of Mandalore; Plazir-15 is also going to sponser Mandalore as an Independent system. Some people might not like Jack Black in Star Wars... but I'm pretty sure Plazir-15 is going to be very important.
I like it star wars has always been a mix of serious gritty and wacky and vibrant. Too much of one or the other kinda tanks it
I think Lizzo was worse
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Jack Black and Lizzo were a bit over the top but Plazir-15 was a pretty cool planet. It was a change from the desert/lava hellscapes.
@@jiffypoo5029 i mean theyre meant to be pampered noble hedonist types.
Yeah know like "capital people" from hunger games
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy Her acting was pretty atrocious. Seeing huge stars in Star Wars pulls me out of the immersion. It shows how truly lazy the writing team is. Hey, lets just throw Jack Black and Lizzo in there so people don't notice that were totally out of ideas!
The sequence of Din and Bo chasing the SBD through the nightime streets was great, but it reminded me of all the videoes I've watched on droid sapience and their lack of rights. I've never seen a SBD run like that in all of Star Wars, and the body language was very much of a person running for it's life. I was kind of disappointed when the chase ended with it's death. I would be curious to hear what a 'free minded' battle droid has to say on their new station in life and to someone like Din, who has a clear, justifed predjudice against them.
even stranger to me was when in the robot bar you had all the robots agree that they wished to find the problem with the malfunctioned not only due to the fact that they would be scrapped but that they genuinely want to uplift their creators. sure you could say that the population is reliant on droids but that scene you saw the droids appreciate given the responsibility of being the foundation of their organic masters civilization. they are treated with much more importance than most droids are in the galaxy, and sure its still a form of servitude, but the idea of droids being happy to take up the main responsibility of their organic master's society brings an even deeper consideration.
not only are they sentient but that scene indicates that they have emotions such as loyalty and a sense of responsibility of not borderline caretakership of their organics, opening up philosophical can of worms that blurrs the lines between servants and foundations of society for droids. could droids be more satisfied with their position if they were given such responsability in other worlds? its a strange question.
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The organic population also seem to be pretty hands off with the droids, leaving them to it to fulfil their jobs without direct control, interference or oppression. The overseer we see at that factory/facility supervising the super battle droids isn't an organic, its another (1st Gen) battle droid. No droid is seen being mistreated by organics (besides the malfunctioning SBD which Bo Katan destroys), in fact IIRC the only organics we see directly interacting with droids are the Urgnaught mechanics, who do their work maintaining the droids with diligence and pride.
This is probably as close to a droid Utopia as droids are ever going to get.
They get to fulfil their (newly re-programmed) peaceful base function without direct mistreatment or direct interference from organics, and they enjoy some degree of freedom and self determination with their publicly operating own droid bars.
It's funny that din says something along the lines of "it's a battle droid what did you expect" when any veteran of a war might respond violently or fearfully when stressed. I love droids and I fully appreciate din's droid racism. I do wish we had some more droid focused SW
They ran in Attack of the Clones, but yeah. Fight or Flight kicked in hard for it.
Right? Droids have some form of sentience and have an understanding of what it is to be functional
I feel like a lot of people are overlooking the agreement between Bo-Katan and Lizzos character about their planet recognizing Mandalore and petitioning the new republic on their behalf. A line like that isn’t just a throw away line that is definitely setting the ground work for something major.
Given how many plot points in the 3rd season went, it’ll most likely just end up a throw away line
Alright, ima be honest that title had me really worried lmao, but I’m happy to say that you really hit the nail on the head. Honestly my biggest gripe with the sequel trilogy was how little they were willing to touch on the actual new republic or anything remotely political.
Yeah so many missed opportunities they had begun some interesting world building in the thirty years in between but it never really turned into anything
@@GenerationTech true. It may be a case of absolute power corrupts absolutely. But I'm not sure. I can't tell if it's how much freedom they were given to do whatever they wanted for the sequels, or it was truly only Rian and JJ that were to blame for th failures of the sequels.
Mando noting how reliant the people were on droids was pretty good, and I liked seeing old Clone Wars droids again. But I do still prefer the EU version of the New Republic, instead of being an inefficient and ignorant wasteful organization, the New Republic fell apart after being withered away by many Imperial warlords, Thrawn Campaign, the Yuuzhang Vong War, and Second Galactic Civil War by Jacen Solo
And then a second Galactic Empire, founded by Han and Leia's daughter and Wedge Antilles' nephew
What EU did you read? The New Republic in the EU lost all support from Leia, Han, Luke, etc due to its chronic inaction, multiple times over. Isaard blasted her way out of Coruscant, killing millions, and released a virus that killed non-humans. What did the NR do about it? Nothing. During the Bacta War, they knew full well that taking Thyferra and wresting control of the Bacta supply away from Isaard was their best bet, and what did they do? Nothing. Wedge and his squadron had to defect and take care of it themselves. And let's not forget that their treatment of the Vong is VERY similar to current canon's NR treating the Imperial Remnant; the canon NR ignores the Remnant until it's too late, like the EU NR ignoring the Vong in favor of "maintaining the image of peace" until Coruscant had basically fallen.
This New Republic are acting like brain dead troglodytes who got beaten in the head with stupid sticks when they were already developmentally challenged.......
And lets not forget the coup orchestrated by former imperial members against a hostile supreme chancellor who opted to use mandalorians to besiege the jedi. A coup that involved teaming up with an emergent faction of sith, cause that never goes wrong.
The EU NR definitely wasn't perfect, it suffered from many of the same failings as the old one by the time Disney started their continuity. But I do feel like it was at least a bit better than Disney's NR. At least they had the wisdom to not end the military and scrap all the imperial ships.
personally i prefer the canon that the new republic was too decentralized because people hated centralization after the empire, so the new republic was so weak, that it only took the destruction of a few seats of power for the new repulbic to fall apart completely, as the political power was barely there at all. it makes a lot of sense as people have a tendency to go to opposite extremes after times of stress which can be equally as bad. ask someone in the outer rim whether they prefered the empire or new republic and they will tell you that both situations had attacks and unsafety. whether its pirates attacking due to neglect or imperial troops, it changes little. at least the empire was honest and was very straight about not caring of the outer rim, and did take out some of the worst of the pirate problem, the new republic however acts like it cares so much about everyone and then does nothing about even the mid rim, let alone the outer reaches.
its not even the new republic's fault as many systems didn't even join the new republic because people became so distrustful of big government because of the empire. honestly i like that canon the most because it shows how opposite extremes can be just as destructive as the main problem in the first place.
“No political system asks more from its people and no political system delivers more to its people”
Some politician down the road is gonna steal that line I’m calling it now
With your permission, may I use it? I don't have the qualifications yet, but I can make my way there.
@@thearnorianruby4681 You don't need qualifications to be a politician. Just look at a certain orange-skinned ex-president.
@@jamesgravil9162 actually, you need to be couple things. Rich and able to backstab anyone and everyone.
I found the new environment, i.e. within a sci-fi city environment besides Coruscant, a very refreshing addition as we get to see other developed sci-fi cities on other worlds as the Star Wars galaxy is meant to be. I also found the noir detective and forensic aspects equally refreshing as it reminds me of the Jedi Temple bombing story arc.
I also enjoyed Season 3's deeper look into the criticisms and flaws of democracy when not properly balanced..... as seen with the flaws of the corrupt, bloated Galactic Republic and the New Republic which swung to the other extreme to the point of apparent complacency and incompetence or "burying their heads in the sand"(?).
Finally, seeing possible hints within this episode about how Din is going to fix IG-11 later in the story. I mean come on, that city has a lot of hints about getting the proper droid technicians/programmers and finding possible spare parts to fix IG-11 since we have droids dating back to the Separatist and Clone Wars eras.
Absolutely loved your closing comments. Wisdom for these dark times we are in with fascism rising worldwide.
Balanced thought and critical thinking as always. I'm always not sure where you're going Alan, but your content makes it worth watching till the end. Bravo.
Thank you for this refreshing take. There were a lot of naysayers, but me, my friend and my brother loved this fun and unique episode
I almost listened to the naysayers and skipped this season, and I'm so glad I didn't. I'm glad others are seeing the nuances.
Thank you for this review where you highlighted the flaws and advantages democracies can offer. In a time where democracy has a hard time globally it's important to know what we have to watch out for and what we can be proud of.
These "fillers" are setting the background for many different aspects. The Mandalorian people and their hierarchy, and how they survive. How other people, places, politics are going to affect them. But so many people are so down on eveything to spite Disney et al. that they are willing to run Star Wars aground. Thank you for the insight, without trying to be spiteful and destructive.
I for one am happy the mandolarian season 3 is fleshing out the star wars universe. There are more planets in the galaxy than Tatooine and Tatooine 2: Electric Boogaloo. The episode with the Doctor as the main character is one of my favorites
Addressing things like people throwing the word filler at every episode released is why I keep showing up for Generation Tech, great vid as always
I loved the details in this episode about the political situation in the Galaxy. It really bothered me that teh New Republic was presented as the same democratic monolith as the rpevious one and yet it fell so easily. It was also strange to me that the movements like the Separatists and Partitionnists didn't make a new decentralized system. The Mandalorian is giving us interesting details about how independant worlds are rising in the Outer Rim. The Galaxy has known in the last century a demographic shift that makes non authoritarian centralized galaxy wide government impossible. I hope that in the new movies 15 years after Exegol they at least explore that aspect of a Galaxy that is not united and partitionned into countless world governments, federations, empires. I don't have much expectations story wise but if they can at least expand the lore so we can over-analyse it.
Also ust a quick question about the Dooku fan commissioner. Did Luke ever make public the truth about the Empire and the Clone Wars? He had everything in Obi wan's diaries. He knows Dooku was a sith and Palapatine orchestrated the whole war. In a galaxy still reeling from the Clone War, it would be a useful thing to leak to challenge the legitimacy of the Empire. And also transparency and the right to know what the hell happened. The Resistance knew Palapatine was a Sith but did the whole Galaxy know this was all part of a thousands of years old religious War?
Finally will you do a video or a short on the Romeo and Juliet of the Star Wars Galaxy ?
"Two species, both alike in dignity,
In fair Mon Calamari, where we lay our scene,
From ancient Grudge break to new mutiny,
Where mollusk blood make civil fin unclean"
And all that...
I loved this episode! It was FUN!
Between the Hyperloop and the Blade Runner ("Not fish, snake scaaaaale) bits and the reverse Cantina with ALL THE DROIDS, I was giggling like an idiot.
All that and social commentary too. More of this please!
Top-notch analysis. The best spec fiction should make us ask more questions and consider issues we hadn't before.
First time I watched the episode I wanted to hate the cameos cause they threw me off so bad. Five times later and I'm really hoping this episode comes back around and we get more of them in the future. They are actually pretty endearing, and I love when Din ends up adopting new family around the galaxy.
holup.... you watched this particular episode.. 6 times??!?!?!? bro what tf are u doing man what new information are you getting by watching it 6 times??
@@upisntdownsilly Bro im watching with my three kids.. I miss every other word and scene 😂
Take it from someone living in probably the most direct democracy currently existing: We don't get sh*t done, bicker incessantly and 90% of the stuff we vote on four times a year is absolutely irrelevant. We DID however managed to mess up massively by initiatives or referenda won or lost by a minimal majorities. Theoretically everyone is eligible to be voted into parliament or even the very top tier of government yet for some reason parliament and subsequently the federal council is full of billionaires for some reason...
Which country is "the most direct democracy currently existing"?
I’d imagine Confoederatio Helvetica.
Altough yearly a few votings doesn’t make in any near close to one. It’s still a meritocracy, like most places.
@@crazylizard1889 Given they said federal council and said they have a direct democracy my guess is germany?
@@malarkey5323 Germany’s full name is the Federal *Republic* of Germany, so no, he means Switzerland
@@malarkey5323 we don't have a direct democracy, it's literally called the federal republic of germany. We have a representative democracy.
"It's the worst form of government, besides all the others." And very good insights on your part. I, too, am worried for the world, and the rise of uninformed or miss-informed populism.
this is why.... this is why this episode and episode 3 are two of my most favorite of the entire series; the nuanced adult and highminded story telling.
i feel like the creators felt rlly political then and its definitely leading up to something but these episodes are also heavily criticised because of how inappropriately planned and how pointless it feels in a short period of time. like im sure theyre gonna use these episodes to link up with a larger story but maybe having 3/4 of an episode centred around 2 characters we barely remember isnt the best idea, after all its the mandalorian, not the new republic
This episode reminds me of an episode of star trek, with exploring and criticizing things from real life through their lens
So I would like to share an observation. I agree with Alan, it's not filler. It's all part of a bigger picture. What we're seeing is the beginning of a new Mandalorian empire. If you remember during the clone Wars, mandalor led a thousand independent systems. Now they have two. Navarro and the pleasure planet. And that ancient order of independent regency that grogo was knighted into, that's going to be his version of the Jedi order. Mark my words. They will be the royal guards of the new Empire led by Sir Grogu
I would not mind that. Do something new
It seems like filler, very disconnected stuff, but that’s exactly how the first season went, just set ups for season 2
@@Noseylemon you should defo rewatch whole season and come back to see if it's still filler or not
@@overstimulatedboy01 yeah, that might be a good idea to see where it has all gone, I’ve definitely enjoyed it, like it’s awesome to see them doing stuff and have a detective episode like this but at times it can feel a bit indecisive, though the “filler” often does set stuff up like the pirates on nevarro or the giant bird hunt thing
Even if it’s not filler, the way it’s handled feels like it which is not a good look cinematically and writing wise
Thank you for making these kinds of videos! I have no idea how people complain that politics should be kept out of Star Wars when Star Wars has been inherently political since the very start. Keep up the good work!
No way personally I’m Sikh and I’m so glad you touched on that it’s a great analogy man. Glad to see other people have knowledge much respect to u brotha
It´s just so wholesome to watch your analyses. Let me be frank, before I found you, I was pretty much watching Erik and Robothead, but since I found your channel I have rarely watched them. Why? Because your calm and steady demeanor is pure balm for my Vet-Soul. While the Overhyping of NR and the constant bickering of RH are startling me.
Thank you for being who you are and for putting intellect and calmness before hype and exhaustion. You are my favourite Star Wars CC and I hope you stay as you are.
This episode raise a few questions for me. If there is droid bar, do driods pay credits? If they do, does droids get paid for their work? And they seem capable of leisure and fear of death, doesn't that mean it is unethical to abuse and exploit them?
Yes
i mean the star wars universe has had things like the sith empire existent which was pretty dark and authoritarian, let alone things like how the Mandalorians used to be or the ancient rakata infiinite empire enslaving literally every species in the galaxy,
point is sentient organic species already brutalize and enslave other organic species quite commonly. why would they care about robots who they often don't even understand are sentient.
well characters like c3po can feel pain and show discomfort at moving for long periods of time and he and others show signs of individual wants and desires, I'd say yes it is unethical to exploit them as they for the most part can feel pain and are capable of free thought, it is arguably worse than most think as in the clone wars the b1 droids often showed resentment towards their orders but could not abandon the war like clones could, now if owners wanted to be ethical without getting rid of droids they might remove the sensors inside droids that makes them "feel" pain you would have to monitor them more closely if they themselves don't feel anything wrong, or they would hire droids that have no
"individual thought" like the oom droids, more simple and capable of receiving commands
I’m so happy that one of many UA-camrs said they enjoyed this episode. Thank you
I really enjoy your perspective on things and how you mange to relate them to the here and now. 👍. Please don't ever change!
this episode was a Solid B+ or even an A-.
I thoroughly liked it and even drove the plot further with a 'diplomatic' mission to boot to solidify the first Ally for Bo.
Despite the fact that the whole entire ordeal was absolutely unnecessary and was a literal detour from their intended destination.
i took a long break star wars and now that im back nothing feels like filler, its great to see such fascinating and insightful themes in fun characters and plots. I feel bad for hate-fans
There's also a pretty blatant commentary on meritocracy & aristocracy with the situation of Bo-Katan. While she's both royal by blood and probably one of the best fighters in the galaxy... She really hasn't learned how to properly lead and unite people. But she's learning. At it's core, most forms of government are flawed by the fact that people are involved. As they say, "People suck." Collectively and individually we are definitely not infallible. And sometimes we are lucky if we get a second chance at it. The French have already tried 5 times.
They're looking awfully close to a sixth attempt.
The early Britons, before what we know as England had united into a single kingdom, practised a hybrid of aristocracy and meritocracy. It was a rare case where the throne or inherited positions would pass directly from father to son, but rather would step sideways to a younger brother or eldest nephew rather than their own son. This was because while someone had to be in "the family" to have the position, the most capable individual of the choices available would often be chosen by the nobility. When the son eventually became mature enough to lead then it may be their turn.
Thank you for exploring the ethical nuance of authoritarian and authoritative regimes. It’s incredibly important that people not get comfortable and potentially complicit to a government with fundamental issues.
Brilliantly said!! By far one of your best videos. Very objective and yet respectful. 👍
i love the critical perspective of star wars that this channel presents! great work GT, keep it up! sick setup btw
As someone who isn't against direct democracy, I think it's great that they featured it. The problem with this one was that the working class didn't vote (the droids). I personally wouldn't call plazir15 a true democracy. Direct democracy is by the people for the people (representatives are a non-direct democracy). The droids are part of the people. Therefore plazir 15 is closer to an Olygarchy in my opinion.
I am really enjoying this season of the Mandalorian. It has had the best world building, while also moving the story forward every episode.
How is it that one of the most sane, pragmatic, and empathetic political takes I see online comes from a Star Wars UA-cam channel? Top tier content both in-universe and out.
Man you nailed it I think George would love this video perfect gets the point of starwars taking real political ideas and spinning them into fantasy's, planet systems or subtle underlying plots
This is one of the few channels that actually discuss the politics of Star Wars and how they relate to our world, and I love every bit of it.
this is often the problem, I wish more people wouldn’t be scared to make the connections that GT does
Totally agree. You don't have to look far to see obvious parallels with the current state of the real world. I feel a lot of Star Wars "politics" has become an extremely relevant cautionary tale.
Thank you for making this video. I was surprised so many people got the wrong message out of this episode.
I mean the entire episode itself was a literal detour. The plot basically grinned to a halt and had little to no character development other than what was at the surface level. You could skip 90% of the episode and not be lost whatsoever
Been watching you for a couple years now, I love how you tie in real world issues with what you talk about. Also love the XR. Cant beat a Honda, especially and air cooled beast like that!
Apocalypse proof
I keep getting reminded that most anarchists would prefer a balanced democratic consensus based juxtaposition rather than an artificial one based on greed, avarice, and suspicions. ❤
You saved that Mandalorian episode for me- much appreciated!
I found this episode as very good. One of my favorites from the season
I'm part of the minority that liked this episode too. The Celebrities were there to show just how bad a planet run by Twitter would be, the rest of the episode was a romp through the clone wars and the droid bar was awesome. I get that Mando season 3 isn't as good as season 2 but I'm gonna squeeze as much enjoyment out of it as I can. KK's days are numbered and then we can fully reclaim Star Wars!
I really enjoyed this episode. The interaction between Lizzo and Grogu was funny and heart-warming.
One of the things that really struck me about the new republic is how problems arise because of the banality of the system. They’re too trusting or too confident to think they can undo imperial indoctrination and too apathetic to deal with local warlords like what we saw when they didn’t send a strike force to deal with the pirates. Gotta love Plasir 15 because it asks a similar question to Atomic Heart which is if people don’t have to work then what happens when suddenly all of that infrastructure vanishes
Honestly, these videos on generation tech are better than the actual episodes they're based on.
Dude, I love seeing videos like this and I love your opinion on the political systems of not only the Star Wars universe, but the world as well. I am most definitely a polisci / philosophy nerd and it's cool to see you merge these subjects with the Star Wars universe. Keep making them and I'll keep supporting!
As always, fantastic insights, and very useful for those of us running RPG games set around this timeline! Great job!
Love this quote from Terry Pratchett's Guards! Guards!, I think it pretty much sums up what is happening with New Republic: “You see, the only thing the good people are good at is overthrowing the bad people. And you're good at that, I'll grant you. But the trouble is it's the only thing you're good at. One day it's the ringing of the bells and the casting down of the evil tyrant, and the next it's everyone sitting around complaining that ever since the tyrant was overthrown no one's been taking out the trash. Because the bad people know how to plan. It's part of the specification, you might say. Every evil tyrant has a plan to rule the world. The good people don't seem to have the knack.”
Gen Tech, I enjoy almost all of your videos and I'm glad somebody is able to go "Yeah, I liked this" Too many people are fixated on their personal view of what the story should be and then just getting mad and hateful because it isn't matching their headcanon.
You also seem to generally be able to be chill and respectful of views that don't match yours, which is refreshing in this fandom. We can like and dislike different parts of star wars and still respect other fans.
edit: don't forget the tossing of imperial rations on star destroyers.
well people can have different value systems and can point out problems with either system. poltics doesn't have to be this thing where its always my group vs yours which is what is happening with so much main stream politics nowadays.
@@sovietunion7643 Not meaning politics by that but yes. It doesn't have to be a us vs them.
The problem with star wars fans recently (and fans in other settings for games or shows) Is that instead of going "I dislike this for these reasons. You like it because of those reasons. That's okay let's have a civil discussion." it goes into "Well if you like X, you are stupid and don't know anything."
Or the good old "I can't see how anybody enjoys this show at all, it's all crappy writing and pointless."
@@daefaron humans really do be turning everything into reasons to fight over huh. damn we really are just glorified tribal monkys it seems sometimes
@@sovietunion7643 Oh hell yes. I commented to friends about the Ashoka trailer. "Man, this looks cool. Can't wait for the internet to start attacking anybody who dares enjoy it though"
I can’t imagine that those rations are actually good😂
Thank you dude I totally agree with your opening statements about people saying everything is filler and how much this season sucks, I love this season. Especially because I’m also a fan of the Clone Wars and Rebels. This was a great episode, lots a callbacks and moved our heroes further in the story. Also it was just corky and fun. So hyped for Ahsoka!
Low standards
I really loved this episode, it show another world, it bring back the droids from the prequels and show how ex CIS members though of the empire and new republic, I feel the vibe of the first part as a blade runner act. and jack black is always a plus. besides, it left the foundations of an independent mandalore recognize by the new republic.
honestly just the part with the battle droid getting increasingly worried as mando kicks the super battle droids is the funniest part to me. its even funnier because the droid makes a good point in that "yeah their deactivated but they are still super battle droids and made for warfare." honestly the clone wars got me too hooked on b1s being light comedic relief, and its amazing how even after both the clone wars and the empire falling the little droids are still around to make everyone slightly annoyed/laugh at the same time.
I totally agree with you. I am so grateful for every and any bit of Star Wars we get. I will never take it for granted. Thanks for what you do.
Democracy is the easiest way to bring in dictatorship. And here we are stuck with a potato
Let's go Brandon
Is potato…
@@Unchainedmaple888 shut up
As opposed to a rotten tangerine
Direct democracy will always fall to socialism and socialism will in time fall to communism ...
I have to ask! How are you able to do these in depth political analysis? I understand it from experience, from doing politics for 10 years (and yes it sucked) but you are on the money with these observations and it's THRILLING! You articulate what I experienced for sure, and I absolutely love your video's. Thank you, if you're comfortable can you share your background? Best, Charmie
There was a *LOT* packed into this one tiny episode.
Also, there's always gonna be somebody to kick the stool out from under someone else. It's *always* going to be a fight for the control of resources - such as raw materials and labor.
To anyone who says episodes like this are filler, I would simply argue that people like and notice different things. I love that jack black and Christopher Loyd were put in the star wars universe. And seeing other parts of the star wars galaxy is refreshing. To me no episode could ever be filler.
I’m curious to know which Mandalorian factions Team Bodin will be recruiting next? Fenn Rau’s Protectors of Concord Dawn?
Didn't they get wiped out? Though IIRC Fenn Rau survived and could've rebuilt them.
@@daefaron Given to how many Mandalorians came to pledge their allegiance to Bo-katan before the Night of a Thousand Tears, he could have replenished his fighter squad
@@isaackim7675 It'd be nice to see Fang fighters supporting those gunships! We know several were in use all the way up to rise of skywalker at least.
This is my favorite Star Wars channel because you focus on the best of parts of each episode of just criticizing it because it’s easy.
mee too i liked this episode, thanks for making a non hating video about it!
I wouldn't call these episodes fillers, they're more like side quests. I did appreciate this episode.
If there's one thing I know about this series, there's no such thing as "filler episodes". It's all going to come together in the final two episodes.
Edit: Everyone is assuming that the PLANET is called Plazir 15. Suppose Plazir is the name of the planet, but the CITY they went to is City 15? It can't be the only city on the planet, and would need some kind of designation, right? Also, having 15 planets in the star system, with the 15th being in the "habitable zone" seems kinda far fetched, don't you think?
Maybe it's planet 15 because of the order of discovery? But 15 being the city makes more sense.
One of your best videos on the politics side. There is some amazing social psychology research on the pitfalls and abuses of direct democracy models that weee done int the 1970’s (many towns in Vermont practice a form of direct democracy).
I like Winston Churchill’s “Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others that have been tried.”
This was a pretty cool episode I enjoyed it very much. It was nice seeing a thriving beautiful society in the Star Wars universe. All the worlds are deserts cities or crazy harsh and dangerous environments
Plazir 15 was an eye refresher for new planets introduced. Since Andor it seems like all the new planets looked too similar in terms of landscape but this was more unique!
I totally agree, such a fun episode. I’m happy to see Battle Droids in rehab.
As a Brit, the reason why Brexit took so long was that the people who wanted it weren't in power. The referendum was a cynical promise that the ruling party had no intention of following through upon and expected to win the referendum for Remain, so they had no plans in place.
They then appointed a Remain voter to oversee the process, who immediately lost her majority, and was eventually booted out in disgrace, to be replaced by a Brexiteer. By this point 3 years had passed. A Brexiteer was appointed, but the parliament obstructed him, because the overwhelming majority of parliamentary MPs were against leaving the EU, causing the process to once again grind to a halt, resulting in the 2019 election, that the Brexiteers won in a landslide.
Being a mouth-breather, the Brexiteer PM BoJo then forced through a half-baked policy to get his party over the finish line (in name rather than in practice), and hoped that no one would notice the gaping holes in his plan. Now those short-sighted fudges are continuing to haunt the conservatives, who now seem to be adopting a policy of "actually let's sort-of rejoin the EU while pretending we're not".
The only people with a clear vision for Brexit, i.e. Farage, was shut out by the two party system and had no chance of implementing the changes he campaigned for.
Winston Churchill said it best. "Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the others that have ever been tried."
Why has nobody tried a system without a government?
@@needtoknow6423 They have. It's called pre-historic tribal society
@@Raleyg I wouldn't call a tribal society a stateless one, since they had a chieftain.
@@needtoknow6423 Exactly. In any large-scale human society, there is going to be a de-facto government, even if people don't call it that. It's simply inevitable
It was one of my favorite episodes! I loved it! One question. Who now is going to protect the city?
At some point I think it needs to be addressed how many megastars are in the liveaction SW series.
like some of the scenes kinda depend on the fanservice of the actors they chose. would this have been the same without katie sackhoff, lizzo, DocBrown, and jackblack? I think I'm going to make it a drinking game. anytime I see a new character that is already a megastar I'm gonna take a shot.
jack black honestly worked in this case. he is known for being a bit silly yet knows how to be serious when its important to the story, so him playing a decadent yet somewhat shrewd leader of a pleasure planet fit his personality perfectly
Not to mention Mando's actor
“Democracy is the worst form of government, except all those other forms” -Winston Churchill
The more direct a democracy, the more vital it is that the entire population have a broad, deep, and fair education. And in that scenario, how vital is it that teachers be above reproach. Good luck on all counts, especially when it comes to instilling a selfless morality that enables someone to care about strangers…
I liked the episode, including all the cameos. It seems that within the construct of available technology, Plazir 15 is doing just fine. The droids there are OK with working with biologicals and the people seemed happy. Maybe a bit pollyannish, but after the chaos of the Empire/Rebellion, at least they have some peaceful times to enjoy. BTW, what's with the tag at 13:10?
It was important to show the Republic getting rid of and decommissioning imperial equipment in the name of "peace" which explains what happened to all of that equipment and why they couldn't fight back better against the New Order when it appeared.
Many people have said what happened to all of those Star destroyers that the new Republic inherited from the Empire, now we know.
Yes, this was a deceprively deep episode of The Mandalorian, I liked it very much, great world building, old school sci-fi plot ( Asimov-eske I'd say), love the set designs, and the humor too, it wasn't overly funny like people are saying. Frankly people's complains about this episode were highly superficial and misguided.
Totally agree
1. Leia *Organa* Solo was not the daughter of Vader (the justification given for her political downfall), she was the daughter of Bail *Organa.* Literally Rebel Royalty.
2. Leia Organa Solo would never allow the Rebel Alliance to be broken up. This is the reason for the existence of the Resistance.
3. The New Republic's capital system was always changing so that an Episode VII situation could never happen.
And yet, _AND YET,_ JJ Abrams disappeared it in Episode VII. Please explain that plot hole.
If we're going to keep seeing space politics, we need more Bothans
Thank you for giving this episode a proper analysis. Too many people are either wowed by the star power or complaining about it, as if sweet Lizzo holding "baby Yoda" somehow was a slight to their core of their being. They completely missed the story of human dependence on technology and the philosophical issues generated as that technology approaches self-awareness, a topic that for decades has been in the realm of science fiction, but with the debate around ChatGPT 4, becoming very real.
Side note: I’d be so down for just a slice of life for the mandos on Navarro
Thats more interesting than lizzo the hutt
This is the Way
See them building their new houses/armories and such, maybe a bit of farmland too? I'd love it.
Some of the internet would immediately REEEEE and attack anybody who liked it because "filler" though.
@@daefaron I know and it’s unfortunate - so much of Star Wars is world building and I love the “filler” episodes for it. Plus you know there will be a payoff with how the series is going.
I honestly doesn’t believe that the numerous US foreign involvments since WWII, let it be soft of militaristic was ever “in good faith”.
It was either fueled by ideological reasons (South American CIA involvments, Cuba, Vietnam etc) or purely money. (Lybia, Iraq and like every other place having oil).
The rise of authothatism, or we what we should call it in most cases, fascism has a load to do with the rise of fascism in thr US. As someone living in one of said states (Hungary) I’m too are very concerned.
I agree, I really enjoyed this episode. It felt unique and fun. Also was important
How dare you have fun! Don't you know that the time honored tradition of watching a bunch of rich people play pretend is a very serious civil duty??
I think the interesting thing about Plazir-15 is ...it really looked for all the world like our heroes were getting set up for a typical Lotus Eaters/secretly dystopian thing in that world, but it actually seems like a place with a largely well-meaning, comfortable, therefore generous and friendly populace and that was really OK to a point. They may have been subtler about the challenges of *direct democracy* ..possibly like we sometimes see about say California's rather expedient simple-majority binding referendums process. Which can easily be turned to bad things with lots of disinformation if people aren't paying enough attention, but also can mean well-intentioned people, over time, vote for two good things that may conflict with each other at least in the ways and means. It's kinda like people wanted to tidy up neighborhoods and improve property values, ended up voting in too much power for the busybody HOA's, people say they want a more comfy shopping area, the auto repair chains propose bills to close down their smaller competition or even driveway wrenching.
I do think where direct democracy might actually help would be about voting on desired *results* rather than necessarily proposed bills themselves. If you want to reduce CO2 emissions, don't ban any but factory-original parts (what major automakers and dealer markup beneficiaries love) ....even in older applications where improvements are cleaner, (side-effect, rashes of catalytic converter theft: at first it was for the metals, then quickly became a side-trade in selling dubious used parts to people when it's what they need to fix it after their cats got stolen....) .... test cars for what they actually *produce.*
When only a minority out of people understand a technology or issue or the people involved in something, that can make direct democracy, especially in a media-disinfo environment, somewhat problematic and *exploitable.* But there's a lot more that people really agree on than it seems when politics present it much more like a split-down-the-middle over partisan ideologies and such, especially in a 'both-sides' 'controversy-driven' opinion-based media. But if you ask simply, "Do you want equality and justice/nondiscrimination for racial and ethnic minorities, women and LGBT people?" vast majorities say *yes.* That may not be reflected in what people get elected do with the power and how it's proportioned and obtained even in our representative democracy.
Even a lot of thorny issues that become huge tugs-of-war between extremes could probably benefit from some more direct polling of the people on, "Is this OK?" "Is this OK?" "How bout this here?" If we did that about some things like what civilian arms Americans are comfortable with and what's 'too much'... I think we'd get some pretty coherent answers as opposed to trying to argue about tidy legalistic definitions and treating particular ideologies or extremes as 'the will of the people.'
Lots of Anti-Democracy Chuds are reading the episode's analysis of Democracy very incorrectly.
Democracy is a valuable system with an educated population. If you have a population that is uneducated, or largely susceptible to miseducation- _cough cough_ *America,* then your system can easily be undermined.
The lessons to learn, are that there are necessary safety barriers and education needed to keep ignorant or bad faith actors from causing long-lasting damage in governance.
To me a democracy where profit motivated media have a near monopoly on information sharing is not a real democracy.
@@SomeoneOnlyWeKnow. This is very true, especially when Private entities buy their way into every facet of a Democracy. It's not truly free, is it?
Your criticism is very insightful like always :)
I’ve been liking season 3. I was so excited to see jables and I think Bo becoming the next mandalor would be sick
Well I mean, as the saying goes: one man's trash is another man's treasure
@@Unchainedmaple888 People say that Bo-Katan is an opportunist.
bruh......this youtube channel is NEEDED!!
What I loved about the episode is the “bright side” of the dystopian Star Wars universe.
What prosperity technology (even if in the form of used droids) can acomplish. Imagine all the resources of the galaxy going towards such goals instead of military founding or megalomaniac megaprojects or getting lost due to curruption. Imagine a few Dyson Spheares instead of the Death Stars.
The workers of the galaxy should really rise up...
Awesome video!
Just trying to decipher the 13:04 product tag. 🤔🤣
Lizzo? Really? What a mistake that was. 😕. Jack Black and Christopher Loyd OK. Lizzo is not even an entertainer.
Feels Racial ngl
@YaBoiRaji lack of talent has nothing to do with race. Calling someone or something racist is a good way to hide a lack of talent.
@@leetimberman8860 it’s absolutely insane to pretend Lizzo is untalented. So yea feels racial ngl. I don’t know what’s goin on In your head. Maybe youre just a jealous amateur actor I don’t know. But it feels racial 🤷🏿♂️
@YaBoiRaji shaking your half-naked ass is not talent. Whitney Houston could sing, the Pointer Sisters could sing. And they don't have to show their bare asses. On the other side, you have Madonna, also talentless and white. Your arguments are so weak, and it's not because you are black. So don't fall back on that excuse and be a man.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H. L. Mencken
Majority rule leads to authoritarian rejimes
as someone who lives in a country whit direct "democracy" i can't hel but give you the reson, for just an example, everybody always complains our congress has too many representatives that are just not very usful, but in a rferendum a couple a months ago, bc the president is weak and inepet, ppl ended up votinf no in a referendum in whicho one of the things that were asked was presisly if we wanted to reduce the nomber of congress ppl