@BLUE COLLAR BOXING no he was a street fighter !!!,by the way he was years ahead of fighters back then and way advanced in martial arts,he also trained sparred with Chuck Norris Bob wall joe Lewis etc all karate champions,and gene le bell was amazing grappler judo wrestling,Bruce lee was a legit fighter and a legend
@BLUE COLLAR BOXING Actually Bruce used to fight all the time, he used get challenged all the time on the street, and he even won a boxing match a boxing match against 17-year-old Gary Elms, who was recognized as the Inter-School Individual Boxing Champion. BloodyElbow.com recently did a feature on Elms, who passed away in 2018, calling on numerous sources and witnesses, and recounted the fight that likely nobody thought would be discussed more than six decades later. “Though rumors that followed the bout would claim a knockout victory to Lee, the reality is that he seems to have bullied Elms around the ring - knocking his opponent to the canvas three times across three rounds - but Elms kept coming back, and he kept attacking. Reports from witnesses make it sound like an odd contest, with Lee throwing hybrid wing chun kung fu and boxing combinations, and struggling with the gloves, and Elms trying to stick to what he knew best - the established rules of the ring. “In the end, it was a unanimous points victory to Lee, and no pride lost for Elms.”
Martial arts is so unique to each individual, but that's what makes it so damn good. You have people like ryan garcia who dont put all their emphasis on technique, and then you have dudes like Loma who are a walking textbook for boxing. Martial arts really is just the warriors preferred dancing style.
*I use a modified philly shell when I am tired and trying to recover; as a big guy, it’s great for defense while recovering and as your recovering you can counter.*
"because you are learning the philly shell you are a philly shell fighter" this hit me so hard.... You were right when you said we should not pick a style and think we can do it... When we have our tools and put it together then our style will be created by those tools we have.... Thank you coach❤️ I was treating boxing like this.... I have a question coach how can we know what is our style??
I think good style for not only a boxer with reach advantage, but are fast and good at hitting and moving and believe when distance is closed in match it’s good to have option to change style
I think you have to stop thinking about things in a way that basically say "How do I find the right box to put myself in, or the right label to slap on myself?" Instead of that, you need to figure out how to focus on a lot of the basics... minimize your telegraphs, learn how to punch a "pre-set arc" instead of reaching for your opponent (so that you are "herding" them AKA directing their movements moreso than you are just chasing them or being chased by them). Learn what your body proportions are and how they stack up to others in your weight class as well as whatever weight class you may move into down the line, like are you usually the fighter with longer arms at 160 but only a touch above average at 168? Spend some time working on how to deal with someone skilled who has reach on you even if you don't need that today, because the bad habits that can't be punished in your current weight class may be what limits you in the next one. Pretty much everyone has these kinds of habits, and rarely do they correct them because that is humbling, frustrating, and takes constant practice in situations they aren't used to anymore because all of a sudden they're "losing" instead of "winning" and that goes on for quite a while. Learn what your limitations are, and try not to rely on "X-factor" attributes like unusual toughness, speed, or reaction times because the first one just keeps you from learning how to actually be a better BOXER and the last two are not going to last. Floyd Mayweather is just about the only fighter I can think of that made a stylistic change to account for this inevitability before it was actually necessary, and that played a huge role in the longevity of his dominance. As you do these things, you will find that you DO start to form your own "style" but it won't be something that already exists. You have to explore your own future, not try to imitate someone else's past or present.
Most people have a hard time applying the philly shell in their arsenal. A few people can master it i.e. Pernell Whitaker, James Toney, Floyd Mayweather.
the Philly shell is beautiful but alot of fighters don't have enough ring discipline to master it to become effective plus it takes years to perfect it
I understand everything has an Achilles heel but at the same time I believe this style is only for the the best of the best of boxers bc nowadays ppl do it for a pose & to look cool instead of learning the intricacies of this magnificent style💯
@@saucehugo8492 nope you must have not read my initial comment this style is magnificent& can only be executed or exercised amongst the best of the best💯so how is it counter intuitive to the fundamentals of boxing when the style itself has all the built in fundamentals once you understand how to execute it? Yeah you just tryna sound smart bruh bc ain't no real avid boxing fan gonna make such an outlandish comment
Floyd actually liked to use a static high guard in many situations. He often used it when he was leaning in with a wide stance, preparing to bate his opponents into his famous pull-counter, because it kept his power hand out closer to the opponents head...... Just another example of using different tools when needed...
'Food for one fighter is poison for another' damn that's a hell of a quote there I found your channel by accident but by far the best youtube boxing instructionals Im binge watching all your stuff your in a league of your own #respect
This man knows his shit!!! I’ve actually used the Philly shell in a locker room fight, it works best in inclosed spaces. Essentially if the opponent is a wide puncher. Keep that shoulder up to protect your face.
this is also important to understand, and you should not take a position or a posture or tactic for long period inside the ring that in a way the other fighter will time your defense, some boxers they repeat again and again and for long duration inside the ring that other opponent will be familiar with it, it's somehow wrong in general, in a fight timing is very important this will go against correct timing if the fighter use it reckless or careless, thank you man thank you coach anthony.
The Mayweather of coaching. Confidence and genius level boxing IQ. Keep dropping these gems like a madman running from the cops after a jewelry store heist.
I'm guilty of this. I'm a beginner boxing hobbyist and i always admired and fascinated by Mike's peekaboo style but when it comes to sparring, i'm stucked. I became a one-dimensional when i box. Today as i learn and practice the basics everyday I observed that i am a boxer-puncher who can adapt to different ranges outfighting or infighting. Philly shell or peekaboo style or roy jones hands down style everybody must utilize as many weapons as the fighter gets as Coach said. Thank you sir! Subscribed.
Everytime I cross paths with someone that performs the philly shell, I always find it so easy to just keep jabbing at different speeds constantly changing the rhythm whether it be doubling up the jab or doing a simple left and right… from there I set up my combos and break em down… because imo, the philly shell looks like its designed to take the uppercuts, hooks etc. and look for counters.. I myself use it but only for defense.. ill go from high guard to mid and then to philly shell.. my style varies.. its a combination of mike tyson, canelo, ali, loma and maywheather.. even sometimes emanuel augustus drunken master for fun😂😂
Thanks so much for your knowledge... yes i understand this... my last person i fought on streetbeefs he stay southpaw philly shell on me and i was catching him with so many left hooks and vertical straights cause he couldnt get his hands up quick enough... i say do philly shell only if u are quick, cause if u are not... u gone learn today! Thanks for all the tips coach!🥊💪🥊
Defense has always been an issue with me. (I'm not a super serious boxer, but I always like to get better) When I tried and drilled the philly in sparring, I wasn't PERFECT but I was a lot sharper; countered quicker, and didn't get hit nearly as much. But it isn't the answer for everything, nor should it be the only thing you ever do.
The real problem with the philly shell, is that it is more suitable for MMA and bare knuckle boxing than for normal boxing with gloves. If you look at the stance you can see that it comes from knife fighting, where you hold the knife in a reverse grip and use slashing attacks from your opponents blind spot. Just try it without using gloves and throw quick back fists with your lead hand and you will see what I mean.
This is what I was talking about with my brother, if you see the Mayweather vs maidana fight. The philly shell wasn't working he had to put both of his hands up
Just found your channel, love your videos dude! So good to hear comment on the people having a "style". I've boxed for around 11yrs and have never labeled myself with a style. I try to adapt and try to incorporate them together. Keep up the great work!
I like the philly shell. I'm an mma guy, but I've worked with a boxing coach that trains fighters at Mayweather's in vegas. He taught me that. But he just calls it a shoulder roll. It took some getting used to, but I like it. But I also use a regular high guard cover, especially if I'm getting bombarded with shots. Having different tools is good, limiting ones self to only one way is what gets people hurt.
@@BigCheefaDaOG I feel you, but even Toney admits he cheated himself by taking the fight and cutting 40+lbs for a fight. That could kill you. It's crazy he still made Jones miss like it was nothing.
Ur right in general buy Toney was naturally a middleweight boxer anyway so it was nothin for HIM to cut 40lbs. What wasn't natural at that time was Toney bn a heavyweight & didn't lose much speed & had one HELLUVA chin.
@@BigCheefaDaOG Have you ever cut weight before? It's not the same thing as losing weight. Severely dehydrating your fat, muscles, and organs and overtraining to burn a little fat and muscle is how you cut weight. Cutting 20lbs my muscles and joints felt like stiff sandpaper, my heart felt like it was going to explode, my ears were ringing non stop and I almost blacked out. 40+lbs is insane. Severe dehydration like that also dehydrates the brain and blood vessels and makes tearing and bruising them a million times easier. It's why we keep seeing more and more Boxing deaths now days, because fighters are cutting crazy weight now.
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 😂😂😂yes ....I have boxed in an amateur circuit in the late 80 , early 90s & in the Army as well. Toney is my 2nd cousin btw. Im no expert but I'm certain there's nothin I can learn from u. Its funny how everyone online is a friggin expert
1 time in my sparring... I used philly shell just to counter and make him litle bit tired... Then when i have landed my big punch in his face then i switch in peek a boo style to attact him and dont let him to think... And its working coach A! I cant imagine how strong my children's are if i teach them... For now im watching your videos and i try to apply b4 to teach and i have lot of discover.. I think Im not selfish but its for my children's to make them unique and strong.... Hehe
ALOHAAAAA...I am not a philly shell expert and still learning it everyday ...but your thoughts in the video are perfect for me at 8yo...USE THE RIGHT TOOLS AT THE RIGHT TIME 🥊🥊😍😍😍 Big Thanks Coach Anthony
Bought the philly shell plus a couple other of your products. Im 61 and concidering masters boxing. We can learn all the techniques and even perfect them, but to me its experience that brings it all together.
I love that you brought this up! If you actually watch Floyd closely he does put himself with both hands up in traditional stance pretty often until he’s comfortable using his shell.
Great video. I use the Philly Shell. But management of distance and geometry is how to win fights. Even MMA. Which is my deal. Big boxing gloves are am unreal magic shield you don't get in real life or with mma gloves. Manage your distance. Philly is the best until you need to do a Tyson styole approach where a jab may as well be a cross. Great instruction. Love you, keep it up. And Thank You Professor. Not enough peeps say that but I do. Thank you Professor
I really love what you said in this; about how people like to treat boxing as if you're this type of fighter or that type of fighter. I've come to a crossroads with plenty of the people who trained me over the years because I keep trying to learn and try and do different things and they're like you got to stick to a style. But the reality that they don't realize is I'm developing my own style. It's not rock paper scissors and as an example of something I've implemented in my own fighting style, that has helped me a lot in my sparring so far as an Soon to be amateur. (Which my trainers hated.) Was what I called Red light Green light drills. You see I'm an infighter, 5 f 7 getting into lightweight (with future aspirations to light heavyweight if I'm successful in lightweight.) And one of the strategies for offense I'm practicing is using my hooks as both def and off. Instead of breaking down my muscle memory into doing one particular kind of hook I've switched between two different types of hooks depending on where I'm at at the moment. am I on offense or defense? So these drills are drills in which I had my brother tell me "kill." When he says kill I do left hooks with my wrist making it so that my thumb is facing the sky for an American hook. Face the sky they die. And when my brother says safe while I'm hitting the bag I immediately switch my wrist angle so that my thumbs are pointing towards me if I extended them. Ie; the European hook. This forces my elbows to lock and then therefore creates hooks with proper form that also act as a defense and makes it harder for my opponent to come in on me. I've gotten crap for it and I don't really know why because it works immensely so far. As an aggressive switch between offense and defense While keeping the aggro on my sparring partner. I of course do other things but this is just my example to put forward of what you are saying. So many people walk their selves in this box when it comes to both learning and teaching and that is what's preventing so many people from actually being great like they deserve in either camp! Fighters and teachers.
As a newbie long philly shell user when close range kicks in i rise my hands almost all the times. It depends on foot position too, if I think just hooks are coming slipping and rollin should work fine, when body work and close straight punches may get u ( due to foot positioning) standard stance is better, there will always be a triangle body spot where to hit a philly shell user, Duran's words
I had exactly this problem and that was exactly my thought process. I simply changed It just as you explainee because I was getting constantly rocked, lol.
Unfortunately its cons outweigh its pros, it's very bad for the fighter's longevity and you're missing a lot of vital info if you can't learn directly from Rooney. Still, a very beautiful style to watch and even I (poorly) do a Tyson-style impression in sparring sometimes.
Can you elaborate on why it affect longetivity? I thought the style focuses on hit and not be hit, in contrast to the Mexican style where you goes toe to toe with your opponent.
@@ongkhuongduy3498 It's not the opponent causing the damage, it's the style itself. It puts a lot of stress on your spine and legs, it's not necessarily a style you can maintain at the highest as you get older, although it will last you longer than a style based on reflexes for example (like RJJ, Ali)
@@keanan5360 I think beside Mexican style, the style that is most damaging would be Joe Frazier's smokin' style. The stress on lower back, as well as the damage from being pretty much the chaser the entire fight. It is a wonder that he fought for as long as he did.
@@ongkhuongduy3498 That is true, Frazier's method of bobbing and weaving is much more taxing on the back than the peekaboo style. In my opinion, he had by far the biggest heart of any boxer in history, maybe next to Marciano and Patterson.
Wow, coach Anthony: I was already impressed by your amazing coaching level, and how you break down moves, and explain these principal so clear to mortals as us, but with this video (amongst many others of you) I got even more impressed! I LOVE your coachings! Big thumps up from Brussels, Belgium! Keep up the good work!
Thank you Coach! You just reaffirmed what I have already thought with regards to "styles". Using what works best for you and knowing when to use it is key. I find that you have to be incredibly quick and have great timing to fight out of the Philly Shell...like Mayweather. 😂I primarily use it as defence to close the distance as I am not quick enough to really fight out of it. Great video. Keep Safe. 👊
This makes me think of shooting stances and grips. I'm not strictly a "Modified Isosceles" shooter, or a "Chapman Weaver" shooter. Those are all just tools for my toolbox, for different situations. I'm new to boxing but I kinda feel it's the same mindset. And your video confirmed it. Good stuff, Coach!
The MAIN problem with the Philly Shell is that boxers don't realize that it's a transitional system, not necessarily a "style". If you watch Floyd, he does EXACTLY what Coach Ant says. He uses it "when needed". Floyd is so great defensively because he FLOWS from style to style and system to system. He's mastered it all.
Crazy thing is I’ve figured out you can lift your elbow and use the elbow to windshield wiper the other side of the body so easily with proper form then you have 2 windshield wipers instead of one I’ve been using it for a couple weeks I barely get hit in mma sparing the elbow flip even blocks head kicks and overhands
As an armchair fan who really doesnt know shit about boxing, I really apreciate these videos, gives a better understanding of what Im watching.......rather than just going on the eye test of what looks good to the untrained eye.
Versatility works but like you said it is what you naturally take to...sometimes trying learn too much may not be in the best interest...sometimes it is better to master specific skills and leave others alone.
Great point! The Philly Shell shouldn’t be the only thing I use, it should be one of many tools. Opponents will adapt to my movements and stances, so I should be prepared adjust myself should they exploit a weakness of this one, right? Pretty sure I learned my lesson, thanks so much Coach!
Philly She'll should only be but one tool in your arsenal. The key is to be fluid, loose, chin tucked, and adaptable. I adapt elements of different fighters to my style. Head and body movement is also important, plus timing and footwork. Be fluid and adaptable!
That philly shell would work as a counter. Shoulder block a right straight and as your left hands drop use the momentum to swing around over the top. A nice counter to the temple if applied correctly.
Versatility is key having many guards and weapons is where it's at.Once you get a fighters timing and positioning down than you can do the philly shell comfortably. Starting a fight in the shell against a seasoned fighter is dangerous if you don't have supreme reflexes.
True, do not focus on the form, but the style as how it was meant to be used for , focus on its utilization. Take the pee-ka-boo style for example, the key is to slip and Bob and weave and keep your head moving constantly, maintaining an aggressive defense, not just putting your hands in front of you like playing peekaboo. While maintaining aggressive defense, and watching out for incoming shots for a counter, also try and counter by using shifting and footwork to create angles to hit your opponent with bad intentions , and hit them with volume punches with combinations to the head and the body.
The moment I feel the opponent's right hand is no longer a big threat, I go back to the traditional. You can walk an opponent down way better with traditional stance. I also use the Philly shell, when my lead left arm(shoulder) is fatigued.
Great advice 👍,as mayweather never used the philly shell against southpaws or against mcgregor when he walked him down !!!,like Mma fighters need to be the Jack of all trades,me personally as a kickboxer love the philly shell woudnt use it if was just a boxer though at that close range lol,coach Anthony what do you think of Marvin cook ????,true boxer stance !!!,
Yo Coach A..you are the best..you really nailed it on this as usual The Philly Shell , Peek A Boo, Mexican Style, Cross Arm Gaurd, are not fighting styles as so many people think, they are techniques that a fighter may or may not resort to in situations They have been given names and made popular by great fighters who new how to use them effectively, and mastered they're usage. When watching Floyd or JT' closely in their fights they rarely if ever came out in the shell..they used it when setting up an opponent or when defending against an opponent or as part of a strategy to lure they're opponent in. When Floyd fought McGregor he didn;t use the hell, he didn;t have to..he simply covered up and walked his man down..because he knew Connor couldn't hurt him the way Connor punches Connor punches off his back foot..which dissipates his power..Floyd knew they're was no need to use the shell. JT would slip bob, weave in the center of the ring without using the shell..but to conserve energy he would lure his opponent to think he was trapped in a corner and unleash the shell and counter to perfection Archie Moore would use his crossarm gaurd as a technique is close, to block and defend punches with his elbow..but at mid distance he would fight in a traditional style, etc etc etc Keep teaching bro...you are the man
Let's get straight! Here's the pros and cons Pros: 1.best for body defense 2. Great balance 3. Great vision 4. Requires minimal movement 5. Great for relaxing your lead hand Cons: 1. The lead hand is down 2. Not for rookies 3. The jab has to travel a longer distance 4. Even if you shoulder roll, the upper part or the head is left. 5. Not as much effective in the street as in the ring. Still, good for street 6. Requires great speed, reflex, timing. Won't work if you miss one of them.
My theory of the Philly style origins derives from my childhood, like a lot of kids from the hood, when yo momma or pops whoop u...talking bout electric cords etc etc, n how u turn with the guard covering ur mid sect n ur face lol
This happened to me last week. I'm sparring and a former amateur mma fighter got mad and was catching me with those overhands. I went back to regular stance and fought for my life lol. Definitely stopped those overhands, and lowkey starting busting his ass lol. He apologized later and didn't want to go hard no more.
The "shell" (or crossarm defense) worked for some great fighters ala George Benton and Archie Moore because they used it to sucker you in close to throw right hand counters, it is a deceptive style that does not work unless you are comfortable and extremely practiced in using it, otherwise, your posing.
Yooo this video right hereeeee!!! Listen to this man!! I haven’t bought the training stuff yet but I’ve been applying every single drop of knowledge in these free ones and when I tell you I haven’t lost since. I’m 9-0 thanks to this dude and no I ain’t no bot or fake account my nigga dude really blessin us with game take these tools and apply them ! They fucjing work!
I was wondering about that. I was seeing guys get hit with overhand rights and they continued to fight out of the philly shell. I kept saying they should bring that left hand up, but they didn’t and they got knocked out. Thanks Coach!
I've been telling my guys all along the Philly Shell should not even be a stance as much as a defensive situational move. I've shown them that same transition. A turtle never stays in its Shell full time. 🎯
I’ve messed with it when sparing folks new to boxing or having lightish spars for me it’s cool when I’m backed up and throwing counter shots....not saying I’m a master at it it’s just what I go for
Useless without countering otherwise u become an easy target, opponent will just start hitting your shoulder.. In thai boxing u cant do it much as your arm and shoulder will be kicked hard and u lose points.
James Tony has the best Philly shell/role/right counter. CLEAN hence "lights out ". Just my opinion. His pull counter is so subtle. Every style has its flaw tho...depends on the practioner i say.
This kind of ties in to the problem of people picking a style, stance, or technique because "it feels natural" of instead of what's most effective. Doing something that's uncomfortable yet effective, will feel natural after you get used to it.
Love what you're saying, I'm a mixed martial arts fighter and I have about 3 different stances. I would love to see a modified Philly shell for street fighting or mixed martial arts
I am a former 3 times world karate champion and we have been doing this technique for years we don't call it that but we do it to keep people from kicking us in they head and face
I picked up the elbow block in the shell by accident, sparring a taller guy and he kept chopping me with his right the elbow block and L step nullified him....was a good spar but I definitely learned to adapt after that.
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" *Adapt* what is useful, *Reject* what is useless, and *Add* what is specifically your own"
~ *Bruce* *Lee*
@BLUE COLLAR BOXING whatever you say about him as a fighter, he revolutionized fighting in many ways.
@BLUE COLLAR BOXING no he was a street fighter !!!,by the way he was years ahead of fighters back then and way advanced in martial arts,he also trained sparred with Chuck Norris Bob wall joe Lewis etc all karate champions,and gene le bell was amazing grappler judo wrestling,Bruce lee was a legit fighter and a legend
nice ippo profile picture
That's an ancient African stick fighting. Philosophy.
@BLUE COLLAR BOXING Actually Bruce used to fight all the time, he used get challenged all the time on the street, and he even won a boxing match a boxing match against 17-year-old Gary Elms, who was recognized as the Inter-School Individual Boxing Champion.
BloodyElbow.com recently did a feature on Elms, who passed away in 2018, calling on numerous sources and witnesses, and recounted the fight that likely nobody thought would be discussed more than six decades later.
“Though rumors that followed the bout would claim a knockout victory to Lee, the reality is that he seems to have bullied Elms around the ring - knocking his opponent to the canvas three times across three rounds - but Elms kept coming back, and he kept attacking. Reports from witnesses make it sound like an odd contest, with Lee throwing hybrid wing chun kung fu and boxing combinations, and struggling with the gloves, and Elms trying to stick to what he knew best - the established rules of the ring.
“In the end, it was a unanimous points victory to Lee, and no pride lost for Elms.”
"What's food for one fighter, is poison for another."
Martial arts is so unique to each individual, but that's what makes it so damn good. You have people like ryan garcia who dont put all their emphasis on technique, and then you have dudes like Loma who are a walking textbook for boxing. Martial arts really is just the warriors preferred dancing style.
@@DnAfilms405 like Muhammed Ali
The problem with Philly Shell is we ain’t FLOYD.
Bingo. It's not a guard that works for most people and severely limits your mobility as well.
Floyd aint me
Nah we Ain’t James Toney lolol
@@uncleterryreal that's the one 👍🏿
@@raasputin Yessir!
*I use a modified philly shell when I am tired and trying to recover; as a big guy, it’s great for defense while recovering and as your recovering you can counter.*
I do the exact same thing.
Same here
I do it if a guy is throwing alot of body shots
wow
Yo
"because you are learning the philly shell you are a philly shell fighter" this hit me so hard.... You were right when you said we should not pick a style and think we can do it... When we have our tools and put it together then our style will be created by those tools we have.... Thank you coach❤️ I was treating boxing like this.... I have a question coach how can we know what is our style??
I think good style for not only a boxer with reach advantage, but are fast and good at hitting and moving and believe when distance is closed in match it’s good to have option to change style
@@anthonyurso9366 yeah but there are only few boxers who can adapt to different styles
@@hidalgorobinkeno7171 yea def if you can use southpaw well will also mess ppl up
I think you have to stop thinking about things in a way that basically say "How do I find the right box to put myself in, or the right label to slap on myself?"
Instead of that, you need to figure out how to focus on a lot of the basics... minimize your telegraphs, learn how to punch a "pre-set arc" instead of reaching for your opponent (so that you are "herding" them AKA directing their movements moreso than you are just chasing them or being chased by them).
Learn what your body proportions are and how they stack up to others in your weight class as well as whatever weight class you may move into down the line, like are you usually the fighter with longer arms at 160 but only a touch above average at 168?
Spend some time working on how to deal with someone skilled who has reach on you even if you don't need that today, because the bad habits that can't be punished in your current weight class may be what limits you in the next one. Pretty much everyone has these kinds of habits, and rarely do they correct them because that is humbling, frustrating, and takes constant practice in situations they aren't used to anymore because all of a sudden they're "losing" instead of "winning" and that goes on for quite a while.
Learn what your limitations are, and try not to rely on "X-factor" attributes like unusual toughness, speed, or reaction times because the first one just keeps you from learning how to actually be a better BOXER and the last two are not going to last. Floyd Mayweather is just about the only fighter I can think of that made a stylistic change to account for this inevitability before it was actually necessary, and that played a huge role in the longevity of his dominance.
As you do these things, you will find that you DO start to form your own "style" but it won't be something that already exists. You have to explore your own future, not try to imitate someone else's past or present.
Literally what Bruce Lee means when he said "Be like water"
Most people have a hard time applying the philly shell in their arsenal. A few people can master it i.e. Pernell Whitaker, James Toney, Floyd Mayweather.
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the Philly shell is beautiful but alot of fighters don't have enough ring discipline to master it to become effective plus it takes years to perfect it
Teofimo Lopez
@Captain Chaos undisputed world champion..
I think that's close
@Captain Chaos so he has almost all belts but one and he ain't top 5 current pound for pound undisputed champion? Haha learn boxing plz
It's also useful to use the philly shell and a more traditional guard to give your opponents different looks and make it harder for them to read you.
One of the most overlooked tactics against the philly shell is to double up on right hands sometimes triple up. Or triple up on hooks.
Or overhand
Unless you are as fast as Floyd you will probably get punished for this
I understand everything has an Achilles heel but at the same time I believe this style is only for the the best of the best of boxers bc nowadays ppl do it for a pose & to look cool instead of learning the intricacies of this magnificent style💯
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@SuperTrader Mikey 💯🥊
It’s counter intuitive to the fundamentals of boxing
@@saucehugo8492 nope you must have not read my initial comment this style is magnificent& can only be executed or exercised amongst the best of the best💯so how is it counter intuitive to the fundamentals of boxing when the style itself has all the built in fundamentals once you understand how to execute it? Yeah you just tryna sound smart bruh bc ain't no real avid boxing fan gonna make such an outlandish comment
@@lionofjudah4492 because your hands aren’t up it’s basically just showboating for a fighter with faster reflexes than his opponent
“Just pick ya damn hand up” 😂😂😂
Lmaoo
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"What's food for one fighter is poison for another!" Love that quote; so true!
Floyd actually liked to use a static high guard in many situations. He often used it when he was leaning in with a wide stance, preparing to bate his opponents into his famous pull-counter, because it kept his power hand out closer to the opponents head......
Just another example of using different tools when needed...
Floyd Mayweather uses not only the Philly shell, he uses his money too.
'Food for one fighter is poison for another' damn that's a hell of a quote there I found your channel by accident but by far the best youtube boxing instructionals Im binge watching all your stuff your in a league of your own #respect
Got that from one of my good boxing friends
A natural teacher. Congratulations on explaining it this simple. Specially being a young man. Ring IQ at high level.
If it doesn’t feel comfortable keeping your hands up then that’s good. It’s not supposed to feel comfortable until you get comfortable.
This man knows his shit!!! I’ve actually used the Philly shell in a locker room fight, it works best in inclosed spaces. Essentially if the opponent is a wide puncher. Keep that shoulder up to protect your face.
Nigga did you really use the fight style in a street fight without gloves I can’t believe it
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this is also important to understand, and you should not take a position or a posture or tactic for long period inside the ring that in a way the other fighter will time your defense, some boxers they repeat again and again and for long duration inside the ring that other opponent will be familiar with it, it's somehow wrong in general, in a fight timing is very important this will go against correct timing if the fighter use it reckless or careless, thank you man thank you coach anthony.
Agreed !
Plus people think mayweather only does the philly. He is using it a hundred ways from different angles..
From you I learned the correct posture of the Philly shell and it kept my jaw from being exposed too much I THANK YOU!
Nice job !
Thanks for keeping me from making that mistake. I was on my way.
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Perfectly explained. No one explains so clearly. Best wishes, to you and your team.👍Tanti salutti
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The Mayweather of coaching.
Confidence and genius level boxing IQ. Keep dropping these gems like a madman running from the cops after a jewelry store heist.
"There's more than one path to the top of the mountain"
"Guess what I'm gonna do? PICK MY DAMN HANDS UP"
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I'm guilty of this. I'm a beginner boxing hobbyist and i always admired and fascinated by Mike's peekaboo style but when it comes to sparring, i'm stucked. I became a one-dimensional when i box. Today as i learn and practice the basics everyday I observed that i am a boxer-puncher who can adapt to different ranges outfighting or infighting. Philly shell or peekaboo style or roy jones hands down style everybody must utilize as many weapons as the fighter gets as Coach said. Thank you sir! Subscribed.
Everytime I cross paths with someone that performs the philly shell, I always find it so easy to just keep jabbing at different speeds constantly changing the rhythm whether it be doubling up the jab or doing a simple left and right… from there I set up my combos and break em down… because imo, the philly shell looks like its designed to take the uppercuts, hooks etc. and look for counters.. I myself use it but only for defense.. ill go from high guard to mid and then to philly shell.. my style varies.. its a combination of mike tyson, canelo, ali, loma and maywheather.. even sometimes emanuel augustus drunken master for fun😂😂
Thanks so much for your knowledge... yes i understand this... my last person i fought on streetbeefs he stay southpaw philly shell on me and i was catching him with so many left hooks and vertical straights cause he couldnt get his hands up quick enough... i say do philly shell only if u are quick, cause if u are not... u gone learn today!
Thanks for all the tips coach!🥊💪🥊
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Why not Use Different Guard Styles depending on the boxing Situation. 🥊💯
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Defense has always been an issue with me. (I'm not a super serious boxer, but I always like to get better) When I tried and drilled the philly in sparring, I wasn't PERFECT but I was a lot sharper; countered quicker, and didn't get hit nearly as much. But it isn't the answer for everything, nor should it be the only thing you ever do.
The real problem with the philly shell, is that it is more suitable for MMA and bare knuckle boxing than for normal boxing with gloves. If you look at the stance you can see that it comes from knife fighting, where you hold the knife in a reverse grip and use slashing attacks from your opponents blind spot. Just try it without using gloves and throw quick back fists with your lead hand and you will see what I mean.
This is what I was talking about with my brother, if you see the Mayweather vs maidana fight. The philly shell wasn't working he had to put both of his hands up
Yeah if the opponent’s output is very high it’s problems
Just found your channel, love your videos dude!
So good to hear comment on the people having a "style". I've boxed for around 11yrs and have never labeled myself with a style. I try to adapt and try to incorporate them together.
Keep up the great work!
I like the philly shell.
I'm an mma guy, but I've worked with a boxing coach that trains fighters at Mayweather's in vegas. He taught me that. But he just calls it a shoulder roll. It took some getting used to, but I like it. But I also use a regular high guard cover, especially if I'm getting bombarded with shots. Having different tools is good, limiting ones self to only one way is what gets people hurt.
I love this. Coach Anthony is so realistic man. Been watching his videos for awhile now. Keep it up!
Thank you
Even James Toney went hands up against Roy Jones and Ricky Stackhouse.
They cheated Toney in my opinion
@@BigCheefaDaOG I feel you, but even Toney admits he cheated himself by taking the fight and cutting 40+lbs for a fight. That could kill you. It's crazy he still made Jones miss like it was nothing.
Ur right in general buy Toney was naturally a middleweight boxer anyway so it was nothin for HIM to cut 40lbs. What wasn't natural at that time was Toney bn a heavyweight & didn't lose much speed & had one HELLUVA chin.
@@BigCheefaDaOG Have you ever cut weight before? It's not the same thing as losing weight. Severely dehydrating your fat, muscles, and organs and overtraining to burn a little fat and muscle is how you cut weight. Cutting 20lbs my muscles and joints felt like stiff sandpaper, my heart felt like it was going to explode, my ears were ringing non stop and I almost blacked out. 40+lbs is insane.
Severe dehydration like that also dehydrates the brain and blood vessels and makes tearing and bruising them a million times easier.
It's why we keep seeing more and more Boxing deaths now days, because fighters are cutting crazy weight now.
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 😂😂😂yes ....I have boxed in an amateur circuit in the late 80 , early 90s & in the Army as well. Toney is my 2nd cousin btw. Im no expert but I'm certain there's nothin I can learn from u. Its funny how everyone online is a friggin expert
The Philly shell works so well with circular foot work, high hands when needed. Wonderful advice and it can save someone's ass
1 time in my sparring... I used philly shell just to counter and make him litle bit tired... Then when i have landed my big punch in his face then i switch in peek a boo style to attact him and dont let him to think... And its working coach A! I cant imagine how strong my children's are if i teach them... For now im watching your videos and i try to apply b4 to teach and i have lot of discover.. I think Im not selfish but its for my children's to make them unique and strong.... Hehe
ALOHAAAAA...I am not a philly shell expert and still learning it everyday ...but your thoughts in the video are perfect for me at 8yo...USE THE RIGHT TOOLS AT THE RIGHT TIME 🥊🥊😍😍😍 Big Thanks Coach Anthony
Bought the philly shell plus a couple other of your products. Im 61 and concidering masters boxing. We can learn all the techniques and even perfect them, but to me its experience that brings it all together.
Thank you! I agree
I love that you brought this up! If you actually watch Floyd closely he does put himself with both hands up in traditional stance pretty often until he’s comfortable using his shell.
This is a jewel. Coach dropped some key game on this one. Protect yourself at all times. Good defense is the foundation
Absolutely! @Coach Anthony: It's one thing to know "how" to execute a technique another to know "when" to employ it.
"I’m a pick my damn hand up.” We make things to hard sometimes.
Great video. I use the Philly Shell. But management of distance and geometry is how to win fights. Even MMA. Which is my deal. Big boxing gloves are am unreal magic shield you don't get in real life or with mma gloves. Manage your distance. Philly is the best until you need to do a Tyson styole approach where a jab may as well be a cross. Great instruction. Love you, keep it up. And Thank You Professor. Not enough peeps say that but I do. Thank you Professor
I really love what you said in this; about how people like to treat boxing as if you're this type of fighter or that type of fighter. I've come to a crossroads with plenty of the people who trained me over the years because I keep trying to learn and try and do different things and they're like you got to stick to a style. But the reality that they don't realize is I'm developing my own style.
It's not rock paper scissors and as an example of something I've implemented in my own fighting style, that has helped me a lot in my sparring so far as an Soon to be amateur. (Which my trainers hated.) Was what I called Red light Green light drills. You see I'm an infighter, 5 f 7 getting into lightweight (with future aspirations to light heavyweight if I'm successful in lightweight.) And one of the strategies for offense I'm practicing is using my hooks as both def and off. Instead of breaking down my muscle memory into doing one particular kind of hook I've switched between two different types of hooks depending on where I'm at at the moment. am I on offense or defense? So these drills are drills in which I had my brother tell me "kill." When he says kill I do left hooks with my wrist making it so that my thumb is facing the sky for an American hook. Face the sky they die. And when my brother says safe while I'm hitting the bag I immediately switch my wrist angle so that my thumbs are pointing towards me if I extended them. Ie; the European hook. This forces my elbows to lock and then therefore creates hooks with proper form that also act as a defense and makes it harder for my opponent to come in on me. I've gotten crap for it and I don't really know why because it works immensely so far. As an aggressive switch between offense and defense While keeping the aggro on my sparring partner. I of course do other things but this is just my example to put forward of what you are saying. So many people walk their selves in this box when it comes to both learning and teaching and that is what's preventing so many people from actually being great like they deserve in either camp! Fighters and teachers.
Everything we learn is just a tool, a paintbrush to help us paint the picture we want. Wise words that go beyond boxing, coach. Thank you!
As a newbie long philly shell user when close range kicks in i rise my hands almost all the times. It depends on foot position too, if I think just hooks are coming slipping and rollin should work fine, when body work and close straight punches may get u ( due to foot positioning) standard stance is better, there will always be a triangle body spot where to hit a philly shell user, Duran's words
Coach Anthony is an experienced, succinct and very cool coach. Thank you.
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I had exactly this problem and that was exactly my thought process. I simply changed It just as you explainee because I was getting constantly rocked, lol.
I like cus’ style. His peekaboo is one of a kind
Unfortunately its cons outweigh its pros, it's very bad for the fighter's longevity and you're missing a lot of vital info if you can't learn directly from Rooney. Still, a very beautiful style to watch and even I (poorly) do a Tyson-style impression in sparring sometimes.
Can you elaborate on why it affect longetivity? I thought the style focuses on hit and not be hit, in contrast to the Mexican style where you goes toe to toe with your opponent.
@@ongkhuongduy3498 It's not the opponent causing the damage, it's the style itself. It puts a lot of stress on your spine and legs, it's not necessarily a style you can maintain at the highest as you get older, although it will last you longer than a style based on reflexes for example (like RJJ, Ali)
@@keanan5360 I think beside Mexican style, the style that is most damaging would be Joe Frazier's smokin' style. The stress on lower back, as well as the damage from being pretty much the chaser the entire fight. It is a wonder that he fought for as long as he did.
@@ongkhuongduy3498 That is true, Frazier's method of bobbing and weaving is much more taxing on the back than the peekaboo style. In my opinion, he had by far the biggest heart of any boxer in history, maybe next to Marciano and Patterson.
coach as a person who uses the philly shell as his transition defense into a counter punch im loving everything you say here
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Wow, coach Anthony: I was already impressed by your amazing coaching level, and how you break down moves, and explain these principal so clear to mortals as us, but with this video (amongst many others of you) I got even more impressed! I LOVE your coachings! Big thumps up from Brussels, Belgium! Keep up the good work!
getting stuck in a single style is a big fallacy - gj on this video and pointing these things out
Thank you Coach! You just reaffirmed what I have already thought with regards to "styles". Using what works best for you and knowing when to use it is key. I find that you have to be incredibly quick and have great timing to fight out of the Philly Shell...like Mayweather. 😂I primarily use it as defence to close the distance as I am not quick enough to really fight out of it. Great video. Keep Safe. 👊
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This makes me think of shooting stances and grips. I'm not strictly a "Modified Isosceles" shooter, or a "Chapman Weaver" shooter. Those are all just tools for my toolbox, for different situations.
I'm new to boxing but I kinda feel it's the same mindset. And your video confirmed it. Good stuff, Coach!
The MAIN problem with the Philly Shell is that boxers don't realize that it's a transitional system, not necessarily a "style". If you watch Floyd, he does EXACTLY what Coach Ant says. He uses it "when needed". Floyd is so great defensively because he FLOWS from style to style and system to system. He's mastered it all.
Thanks Coach for keeping it real as always. I love the way you broke that down Coach Anthony 🙏🥊👑.
Use the tools when needed ... great advice from Great/amazing Coach ... many blessings to you Coach A ... Happy Holidays!
Thank you
Crazy thing is I’ve figured out you can lift your elbow and use the elbow to windshield wiper the other side of the body so easily with proper form then you have 2 windshield wipers instead of one I’ve been using it for a couple weeks I barely get hit in mma sparing the elbow flip even blocks head kicks and overhands
As an armchair fan who really doesnt know shit about boxing, I really apreciate these videos, gives a better understanding of what Im watching.......rather than just going on the eye test of what looks good to the untrained eye.
Versatility works but like you said it is what you naturally take to...sometimes trying learn too much may not be in the best interest...sometimes it is better to master specific skills and leave others alone.
Great point! The Philly Shell shouldn’t be the only thing I use, it should be one of many tools. Opponents will adapt to my movements and stances, so I should be prepared adjust myself should they exploit a weakness of this one, right? Pretty sure I learned my lesson, thanks so much Coach!
Philly She'll should only be but one tool in your arsenal. The key is to be fluid, loose, chin tucked, and adaptable. I adapt elements of different fighters to my style. Head and body movement is also important, plus timing and footwork. Be fluid and adaptable!
That philly shell would work as a counter. Shoulder block a right straight and as your left hands drop use the momentum to swing around over the top. A nice counter to the temple if applied correctly.
I practice a different martial art than boxing and this is very helpful. Thank you, Coach (Sifu) Anthony.
Versatility is key having many guards and weapons is where it's at.Once you get a fighters timing and positioning down than you can do the philly shell comfortably. Starting a fight in the shell against a seasoned fighter is dangerous if you don't have supreme reflexes.
Here because of Sean Strickland's title win.
💯% Facts!! I like the Philly Shell from a comfort stand point but in close I like to keep my hands high and slip moreso like a peek a boo style
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True, do not focus on the form, but the style as how it was meant to be used for , focus on its utilization.
Take the pee-ka-boo style for example, the key is to slip and Bob and weave and keep your head moving constantly, maintaining an aggressive defense, not just putting your hands in front of you like playing peekaboo. While maintaining aggressive defense, and watching out for incoming shots for a counter, also try and counter by using shifting and footwork to create angles to hit your opponent with bad intentions , and hit them with volume punches with combinations to the head and the body.
Thank you Coach Anthony, I love your content, the way u paint the proper picture for us.
The moment I feel the opponent's right hand is no longer a big threat, I go back to the traditional. You can walk an opponent down way better with traditional stance.
I also use the Philly shell, when my lead left arm(shoulder) is fatigued.
many fighters need to see this
Great advice 👍,as mayweather never used the philly shell against southpaws or against mcgregor when he walked him down !!!,like Mma fighters need to be the Jack of all trades,me personally as a kickboxer love the philly shell woudnt use it if was just a boxer though at that close range lol,coach Anthony what do you think of Marvin cook ????,true boxer stance !!!,
Yo Coach A..you are the best..you really nailed it on this as usual
The Philly Shell , Peek A Boo, Mexican Style, Cross Arm Gaurd, are not fighting styles as so many people think, they are techniques that a fighter may or may not resort to in situations
They have been given names and made popular by great fighters who new how to use them effectively, and mastered they're usage. When watching Floyd or JT' closely in their fights they rarely if ever came out in the shell..they used it when setting up an opponent or when defending against an opponent or as part of a strategy to lure they're opponent in. When Floyd fought McGregor he didn;t use the hell, he didn;t have to..he simply covered up and walked his man down..because he knew Connor couldn't hurt him the way Connor punches
Connor punches off his back foot..which dissipates his power..Floyd knew they're was no need to use the shell. JT would slip bob, weave in the center of the ring without using the shell..but to conserve energy he would lure his opponent to think he was trapped in a corner and unleash the shell and counter to perfection Archie Moore would use his crossarm gaurd as a technique is close, to block and defend punches with his elbow..but at mid distance he would fight in a traditional style, etc etc etc
Keep teaching bro...you are the man
The only coach I listen to besides my own
Thank you man, you can't believe i was looking for such video yesterday. And you explained everything i wanted to know.
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Let's get straight! Here's the pros and cons
Pros:
1.best for body defense
2. Great balance
3. Great vision
4. Requires minimal movement
5. Great for relaxing your lead hand
Cons:
1. The lead hand is down
2. Not for rookies
3. The jab has to travel a longer distance
4. Even if you shoulder roll, the upper part or the head is left.
5. Not as much effective in the street as in the ring. Still, good for street
6. Requires great speed, reflex, timing. Won't work if you miss one of them.
I love your knowledge coach Anthony.
My theory of the Philly style origins derives from my childhood, like a lot of kids from the hood, when yo momma or pops whoop u...talking bout electric cords etc etc, n how u turn with the guard covering ur mid sect n ur face lol
I think a more accurate title is "misconceptions with boxing styles, and how to box better" but the video is informative
I just had this conversation with one of my students. I agree with the paint brush analogy.
Great video coach
Thank you
Where are you based out of
This happened to me last week. I'm sparring and a former amateur mma fighter got mad and was catching me with those overhands. I went back to regular stance and fought for my life lol. Definitely stopped those overhands, and lowkey starting busting his ass lol. He apologized later and didn't want to go hard no more.
The "shell" (or crossarm defense) worked for some great fighters ala George Benton and Archie Moore because they used it to sucker you in close to throw right hand counters, it is a deceptive style that does not work unless you are comfortable and extremely practiced in using it, otherwise, your posing.
Maidana loved throwing that overhand right against the philly shell
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Maidana punch was a rabbit punch. Thats why it landed
Not sure if that's a new intro or not but I dig it
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Yooo this video right hereeeee!!! Listen to this man!! I haven’t bought the training stuff yet but I’ve been applying every single drop of knowledge in these free ones and when I tell you I haven’t lost since. I’m 9-0 thanks to this dude and no I ain’t no bot or fake account my nigga dude really blessin us with game take these tools and apply them ! They fucjing work!
You are the best coach i ever knew
That’s very very well said that the styles are only tools
I was wondering about that. I was seeing guys get hit with overhand rights and they continued to fight out of the philly shell. I kept saying they should bring that left hand up, but they didn’t and they got knocked out. Thanks Coach!
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U need to cover your left cheek with left shoulder
I've been telling my guys all along the Philly Shell should not even be a stance as much as a defensive situational move. I've shown them that same transition. A turtle never stays in its Shell full time. 🎯
I’ve messed with it when sparing folks new to boxing or having lightish spars for me it’s cool when I’m backed up and throwing counter shots....not saying I’m a master at it it’s just what I go for
Useless without countering otherwise u become an easy target, opponent will just start hitting your shoulder.. In thai boxing u cant do it much as your arm and shoulder will be kicked hard and u lose points.
James Tony has the best Philly shell/role/right counter. CLEAN hence "lights out ". Just my opinion. His pull counter is so subtle. Every style has its flaw tho...depends on the practioner i say.
This kind of ties in to the problem of people picking a style, stance, or technique because "it feels natural" of instead of what's most effective. Doing something that's uncomfortable yet effective, will feel natural after you get used to it.
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Best to be specific for who your up against so I’d say practice everything you can really
One of you best videos and message by far
Love what you're saying, I'm a mixed martial arts fighter and I have about 3 different stances. I would love to see a modified Philly shell for street fighting or mixed martial arts
U can use it here and there but Not a great stance when there’s grappling and threat of throws involved.
@@newagain9964 agreed, I kind of like the low hand to get an underhook
I am a former 3 times world karate champion and we have been doing this technique for years we don't call it that but we do it to keep people from kicking us in they head and face
The shoulder roll also exposes the body to a right hook, got me in trouble countless times 😂😅💔
I'll make a video on that !
It’s crazy I got really cold with the philly shell I can bring the right over the top and BOOM
I picked up the elbow block in the shell by accident, sparring a taller guy and he kept chopping me with his right the elbow block and L step nullified him....was a good spar but I definitely learned to adapt after that.