Doge, were you playing the same game I did? So many friggin' overleveled casters chaos flame vestige, crystal soul spear. Sometimes, even a lightning arrow shitter...
They had 2 max level phantoms, both mages, abusing void glitch, and hosted at Radhan arena entry. I genuinely don’t think there is a more shameless setup. But props to you for trying, it would’ve been hella satisfying.
@@lazerpulse It's a glitch that will double your jump attack damage, most easily with jump-casted spells. The one phantom that was doing insane damage with the swift glintstone shard was abusing it.
@@enderborn9209Ringed city was great. Always activity. No downtime between invasions. Frequent 4v2s. Extremely cool terrain and enemy variety. It was the best invasion place for me.
@@alchemy5750 so was pontiff tbh. you could argue that it was more toxic but at the end of the game's lifespan every place had gankers, i remember i once found bowglitchers in catacombs of all places lol. i miss ds3 so much
@@enderborn9209 Me too. It was such a great experience. Even some of the gankers were pretty cool guys (on PC that is). It was always a blast fighting some very well-assembled teams.
yeah its doing double damage and costing twice as much because 2 projectiles launch, i slowed the yt vid down and the magic looks strange compared to one cast earlier in the video
It perfectly encapsulates everything that's wrong with the balance in this game. If G9 is having this much trouble surmounting the gank advantages with his vastly superior skill and management of tools, what chance do most other invaders have? Invaders have to put in far more effort than your typical gank, with far less return for said effort. And even if you have 2 to 3 times the skill of your opponents, that still isn't enough of an advantage to surmount a 3 man gank spamming whatever they want behind zero friendly fire.
I don't think there is any ammount of skill that can defeat even 3 brain dead gankers in a small open area like this, all they have to do is spam. If they were all melee I could see some ways to deal with it but even then you'd need them to be very bad players and you'd have to be way above average. This game is a joke
In my opinion Elden Ring should have a flinching friendly fire like Monster Hunter does. It may do minimal to no friendly fire, but they'll actually have to pay attention to push the advantage
The easiest fix to this would be to make the player limit 5. Host + 2 phantoms vs. 2 invaders that can't hit each other. It's such a simple braindead fix that would help the state of balance SOOOO much, but Fromsoft hates PvP, and it's clearly apparent. The only reason Fromsoft games have pvp is because they know how much more sales and player retention pvp games have.
@@YourSuperior They don't hate pvp... They would remove it if they did. (Which would reduce sales potentially and certainly replayability) They hate invaders. I believe that Michael Zachary has a 68 woman gank squad with all the hottest feet in all the soulsborne games.
There are maybe a few plays that could beat this but they’re all Hail Marys. 1. dragon pimp 1 shot before your invincibility turns off 2. Radahn UGS WA near the edge of the water 3. Storm hawk near the portal like they did 4. Black flame tornado near portal. 5. Tree sentinel shield to fire back some of their magic. Again, most of these are so insanely unlikely that it’d take a great deal of luck.
Judging my some of the mages health you could’ve tried to go for a one shot Erdtree greatshield build. But that would only get one of them. The AOE options would’ve had a slight edge. Not that anything would’ve surpassed a 20% chance of success 😞
@@Estoc_Bestoc_ idk how you're gonna have the time to do so besides enduring and facing your back towards a rock but even then they could stun you out of it with a slightly heavier weapon
Its insane how ganking is heavily incentivised like this. No matter what in any invasion besides with the taunters tounge, you are most likely to be outnumbered.
Actually got tilted just watching this. Heard in Koop's stream yesterday that some of these slugs have gank discords and they plan this sorta thing. I also learned they really have a problem with the block button existing lmao Jee went for it though, and that's the content right there.
Props to you for your dedication, endurance and whatnot, but it did really feel like an animal constantly butting their head against the same rock at the end there
I hate the hand holding in this game. The overleveled phantom at 15:59 does a running glintstone shard while moving and facing in the opposite direction of Jee, but the game has a turn cap so generous that he still aims the shard properly. No patch is going to fix that, the game is fundamentally broken.
The spells spam wouldn’t be such problem if fromsoft allowed for the followup casting animation only on small/medium spells and not for something big like cometshard
Look at star shower. Spell spam will always be a problem with er spells designed for easy spam. They'd have to go back on the cast time, tracking, fp cost and poise damage changes of this game.
Probably one of the worst ganks I've ever seen. I was like "At least they're not teabagging" and then 4:07. The audacity of these people is incredible.
Idk if anything was edited out, but notice how they started bagging when someone almost died? And it was the host that took a fight and got run off not long before. He started to remember their skill level and needed an ego boost.
I think he teabagged specifically because of his lil comet spam twice and then the delayed cast that caught G9. He must’ve been like haha get rollcaught I’m so much better than you (ignore that I’m part of a posse) 🤓
I would've chainsaw'd and blocked them honestly. If they were gonna fight Radahn, they would've done it. They're there to grief using an exploit so I consider it fair game to chainsaw them.
Thats stooping to their level. Just leave and block. G9 honestly made a mistake here. The more he entertains these kind of fights, the more of these kind of fights will happen..
@@Vash141nah. You say "clean up the jungle" when they die, reset and are back down there in like 5 minutes ganking again. If anything, wasting more of their time in their world just dodging around over and over would do more. Would at least stop other invaders from coming in and getting repeatedly stomped. The area needs fixed.
This is every invasion on xbox. I'm convinced that these type of people hate playing Elden ring. So they take big chunks of their time to stop other people from playing it by gankin.
ER invasions are just cancer, it's why I quit pretty much a few months after the game was launched.. They did not balance the game at all with invaders in mind.. Invaders are massively under leveled and then the host can have massively over leveled CO-OP partners.. The reality is that 99% of invasions are with over leveled phantoms unless you invade at RL 150+ and even then you can still get them. Atleast at the start of the game you could invade people of similar levels together since they're running through the game together, it quickly turned into people using all the OP broken stuff and having a high level phantom run them through the game and level 20s getting moonveil from a phantom off the bat.
I get invasions like these frequently at the RL I invade at and it drives me nuts. Props to you for not losing your cool because after a few dozens deaths I probably would've just blocked them and gone and do something else.
Yeah, it's like invaders can't have any chance unless they are 3x better than all the people in the game.. 1. Invaders deal friendly fire.. 2. You almost never get another invader anyway. 3. 80%+ of the time it's a team of 3 or team of 2 with a blue that spawns in. 4. The way invading works is that you ALWAYS invade someone a higher level than you and with a better weapon., 5. damage scaling is awful so high level phantoms have massive health, massive defense, and still do massive damage..
Much respect to you man for taking these guys on without resorting to glitches. It's mages like that who make feel ashamed for being a fair spellblade enjoyer. Magic really needs a rebalance :( This makes me feel a little better as an invader since I can't survive HALF as long as you can against these. You're an inspiration!
@@mareczek00713 I would have no qualms with that either. The level of spam that can be done in this game is just a disgrace. 😤 I think password match making should stay restricted to level ranges, still, too. (Meta can only password match metas, etc) that would help, too.
That flask that negates all magic damage was a must here. Used it when game came out so maybe it got nerfed but was super underrated in invasions where it’s primarily magic spammers. One sip and you’re just immune to magic damage for like 30 seconds. Allows you to aggress.
10:59 what you say about chainsaw is so true. I've seen a LOT of invaders recently resort to chainsawing when things get even a little tough but there's no merit to it because it's just not skilful, and makes you look salty and just as shameless as the gankers
Chat has a boner for it though. I don't really know why. Jee doesn't do it and Steel frowns upon it most of the time. But some of these dudes suggest chainsaw within 5min of a "problem" presenting itself.
This is the one thing I'll disagree with jee on. Not that I don't respect the mindset, but I don't think it makes you as shameless as them. If you're going to abuse every mechanic possible, I say it's fair game. Not everyone wants to rise up to the challenge of facing an impossible gank and play by their rules. Not everyone cares about trying to display skill in a scenario where you're predetermined to lose because your opponents are basically cheating. Again, I respect the mindset. Imo though, if you exploit, you get exploited.
Those guys at the beach are still at it constantly. Ran into them a few times the other day. Every time I would spawn there they would always rebuff too. Gankers just really have too much time on their hands.
My favorite spot to invade! where all brave just PvE enjoyers wait for some reason until an evil red man comes to bring justice to the lands between. I don't even know why you can invade at this spot, it is just not winnable against a proper 3-man-gank squad since it is a small open field. Also, you better watch out not to get exposed like this again G9, they clearly out-skilled you! 3 vs 1 means they were 3 times better (ganker logic, the fact that some people really upload a 3 vs 1 and call it "out skilled" is damn crazy)
Loved when you told chat off about the Chainsaw, see it so many times these days where invaders start chainsawing just about anything for no reason. Hope the future patches actually remove it for real this time
@@Laoruperteen18 aren't those the ones that cry because "red man bad" and bash FS for not letting their max level friends carry their entire game without being invaded?
Honest PVE'rs Physick flask change would have trivialized this I think, poise physick and non-physical absorption one, just nuke the ps halberd player while the other two heal you. Now it's a 2v1, much .ore manageable.
I still will never understand how gankers find this fun. Pushing all the advantages into their favor where they don't even have to think they just have to mash buttons in this small area to win.
Dedication is Key. Its these endless agonizing invasion sessions starting in Dark Souls 1 that helped forged me into who I am today ( I still suck ass, I just don't get THAT upset anymore )
I've always thought so since the beta of this game but the lock distance is indecent.this possibility for magicians to hide behind excessive magic spam. I think they increased the lock distance because of the level design which is much larger compared to souls. They also increased it to make the game simpler too In fact I think I know where AC6's influences come from.
I admire Jee's dedication. devs at fromsoft should understand that their game is so one-sided to the host that what really carries the activity for invasions is the sheer dedication of invaders to deal with this BS, many throw down the towel and go back to dark souls 3, i for sure would not have invaded these shameless players more than twice.
They understand perfectly, its by design. Can't risk losing the casual audience now that their games are huge money makers. Invaders not being cartoonishly disadvantaged would scare away all those Reddit sales.
You would be surprised. The same kind of people who do this, are the same kind of people who are STILL ganking 24/7 at Pontiff's area in DS3, despite how dead the game has gotten there. And a lot of those kinds of people display obsessive behavior, and a disproportionately high number of them post exposed videos of them "trashing" invaders 3v1, as if it were something to be proud of. Some of them go even further as to make fake accounts of good players to make fake videos to drum up clout.
Been the same since DeS / Ds1, its honestly probably some symbiotic shit of them getting pissed off by shitass invaders or twinks and then turning to this as some kind of "revenge".
Seeing you trying to find ways to beat such a difficult gank is highly entertaining. The odds being impossible is the best situation. Tbh thought do you know the definition of insanity?
Getting summoned as Spear of the Church in DS3 was way more fun than having to jump into Arena or invading in ER and having to deal with spell and incantation spammers. It's not even that they are hard to deal with, it's just boring. DS3 combat was mostly melee and that's what made it better.
The thing about gankers that always perplexes me is they're not playing for fun. A 3v1 isn't that fun. They're just playing to piss other people off. How sad it is to waste their time.
Rather than recreating vow of silence from should implement the sacred order heal glitch into a spell. This would allow gankers to spam their spells without damaging the invader, but still forces the invader to roll or be rstaggered
I died several times to a Sleep-build Lag-switcher and took every loss. He would lag-switch even if I damaged him. He couldn’t handle me damaging him, let alone a single loss. I kept on playing even after all that bullshit (even had a wholesome moment with a chill Host and Phantom in that same place u died in the video lol), meanwhile he’s one loss away from having a mental breakdown. I won the mental-game in the end. Even if I didn’t get my revenge, I played long enough to see yet another asshole get BODIED by a chad-ultra GS player in a 2v2. It was glorious. He DC’d even if we didn’t gank in a 2v2. karma is such an attractive bitch lol 😂
I was thinking.. overloaded build for poise w light roll flask, a thrusting sword w bloodhound step and the two talsimans for the multi hit buffs, but again would also have its shortfalls.
I've been through this so many times. Shitters magic spam then hate message you and I've learned to run barrier of gold, erdtree great shield, and golden vow along with multiple forms of regen and the magic defense talisman with the pearl drake talisman both +2. Still tho with an area like this I'd keep going in this war of attrition until they become tired thats the only real win you can get from this torture until fromsoft nerfs most if not all forms of magic and ranged projectiles into the ground or atleast gives them severely diminishing returns after like 40 or 50.
This is why erdtree greatshield is always one of the best counter for mages, it makes the mages stop spamming spells. The golden retaliation also deals a massive amount of damage too.
This is why Jeenine is the GOAT! THE GOAT!!!! He embodies the champion of the people, he subject’s himself to this abuse, and shows us how to persevere.
Think you woulda had them with bhs or lances; despite the lock-on issues. Chrimsonwhorl would probably be justifiable, though youd trivialize outplaying the projectile spam
Agreed...I understand people were worried about mage builds being "useless" or getting "shutdown" but this video right here is the prime example of why it shouldn't have been nerfed. I can only understand a nerf to BoG if magic damage in its entirety got nerfed. I'll even say the same for physical damage.
@Jeenine wait lemme rephrase it. Nothing should do this much damage in pvp. We saw a swift glintstone shard take like ⅙ or 1/7th of your hp, which is insane since Swift glintstone Shard is like one of the faster (if not the fastest) sorcery in the game. Honestly, they should just remove these types of areas from the invasion areas cause there is basically no coverage to actually run and get a safe heal off or block spells. This or either they should add a bit of cover
@@Jeenine Idk about that guy...but me personally wasn't stating that overlevel scaling or player numbers wasn't a problem. Clearly it is. What im stating is that BoG in that scenario would've helped and even if they swapped damage types you'd still have PoTE as tool. As for LoR...you really think those goobers would've used it??? They didn't even bother to use it to wipe your physick buffs so I doubt it.
![[Dark Souls 3] SHITTER invades with G9 to turn on him, what happens next...](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zTg0ru9BsDs/mqdefault.jpg)
What’s crazy is that gank could’ve been even fucking crazier if all the players weren’t trash 😭😭😭
At the start that filthy mage got roll catch into oblivion
Yeah but good players don't have to gank at radahn beach to get a single kill that's why you rarely see good gankers there.
Another comment proving my point, "hosts are trash" lol like I said they are casual players 99% of the time and not good
Look at this red bad man ruining their experience
Truly what a prick
Those poor co-opers were just trying to figure out how to reach Radahn and Jeenine kept interrupting them. 😔
One must imagine G9 happy 😞👌
90% of invasions in Dark Souls 3 was meele, in ER its just 90% ranged every single time I invade.
Nah i always had someone chucking vestige or soul spear at me from that back. It just wasnt this insane level of projectiles.
Doge, were you playing the same game I did?
So many friggin' overleveled casters chaos flame vestige, crystal soul spear.
Sometimes, even a lightning arrow shitter...
@@hunterlg13 the amount of pew pews on ur screen wasnt this bad in ds3 and it was manageable.
Mine is either bullgoat with a blood weeb stick or bullgoat with blood dual nagi, which is a stick attached to a longer stick
Bring back vow of silence.
They had 2 max level phantoms, both mages, abusing void glitch, and hosted at Radhan arena entry. I genuinely don’t think there is a more shameless setup.
But props to you for trying, it would’ve been hella satisfying.
Wth is void glitch
@@lazerpulse It's a glitch that will double your jump attack damage, most easily with jump-casted spells. The one phantom that was doing insane damage with the swift glintstone shard was abusing it.
This makes me miss vow of silence from dark souls 3, it would negate all off they strategy
Let’s pray it’s in the dlc 🙏
Man vow of silence was absolute shit in ds3 compared to every other iteration of it, but I would take it in elden ring gladly.
"Remember when we complained about how host-sided ds3 invasions were?"
*cracks open a bud light*
"The good ol' days..."
never thought i'd ever say that i miss pontiff and ringed city but i kinda do
@@enderborn9209Ringed city was great. Always activity. No downtime between invasions. Frequent 4v2s. Extremely cool terrain and enemy variety. It was the best invasion place for me.
@@alchemy5750 so was pontiff tbh. you could argue that it was more toxic but at the end of the game's lifespan every place had gankers, i remember i once found bowglitchers in catacombs of all places lol. i miss ds3 so much
@@enderborn9209 Me too. It was such a great experience. Even some of the gankers were pretty cool guys (on PC that is). It was always a blast fighting some very well-assembled teams.
I mean, ds3 is still active tho barely so
The overleveled summon was using the void glitch where casting during a jump doubles the projectile's damage at double the MP cost
Yeah and it works with slicer and catch flame as well. I don't think he is doing it on purpose though.
It's not just "doing double damage" it's firing twice
The what glitch? You just have to jump cast to do it?
yeah its doing double damage and costing twice as much because 2 projectiles launch, i slowed the yt vid down and the magic looks strange compared to one cast earlier in the video
People that play elden ring this way make me disappointed af. Giving us wizards a bad name.
Worst part is... they could've re-summoned instantly instead of playing your 2v1 game
It perfectly encapsulates everything that's wrong with the balance in this game. If G9 is having this much trouble surmounting the gank advantages with his vastly superior skill and management of tools, what chance do most other invaders have? Invaders have to put in far more effort than your typical gank, with far less return for said effort. And even if you have 2 to 3 times the skill of your opponents, that still isn't enough of an advantage to surmount a 3 man gank spamming whatever they want behind zero friendly fire.
I don't think there is any ammount of skill that can defeat even 3 brain dead gankers in a small open area like this, all they have to do is spam. If they were all melee I could see some ways to deal with it but even then you'd need them to be very bad players and you'd have to be way above average. This game is a joke
In my opinion Elden Ring should have a flinching friendly fire like Monster Hunter does. It may do minimal to no friendly fire, but they'll actually have to pay attention to push the advantage
@@hughmongus6959thats actually a good idea too bad it will never get implemented lol
The easiest fix to this would be to make the player limit 5. Host + 2 phantoms vs. 2 invaders that can't hit each other. It's such a simple braindead fix that would help the state of balance SOOOO much, but Fromsoft hates PvP, and it's clearly apparent. The only reason Fromsoft games have pvp is because they know how much more sales and player retention pvp games have.
@@YourSuperior They don't hate pvp... They would remove it if they did. (Which would reduce sales potentially and certainly replayability) They hate invaders.
I believe that Michael Zachary has a 68 woman gank squad with all the hottest feet in all the soulsborne games.
Max level pontiff invasions at Old Wolf, what could go wrong?
This can be even worse now. Blessed Blue Dex talisman for FP regen, and Leda's Sword for weaponized buff removal on invaders.
My fucking god.
There are maybe a few plays that could beat this but they’re all Hail Marys. 1. dragon pimp 1 shot before your invincibility turns off 2. Radahn UGS WA near the edge of the water 3. Storm hawk near the portal like they did 4. Black flame tornado near portal. 5. Tree sentinel shield to fire back some of their magic.
Again, most of these are so insanely unlikely that it’d take a great deal of luck.
Judging my some of the mages health you could’ve tried to go for a one shot Erdtree greatshield build. But that would only get one of them. The AOE options would’ve had a slight edge. Not that anything would’ve surpassed a 20% chance of success 😞
CHAINSAWWW BLOOOODDD 🩸🩸🩸⛓⛓⛓
Could also relocate with the phantom finger then finger sever back to your world making them lose flasks? idk like an attrition battle
@@Estoc_Bestoc_ idk how you're gonna have the time to do so besides enduring and facing your back towards a rock
but even then they could stun you out of it with a slightly heavier weapon
7:08 look at that DAMAGE! That’s like 6-800 on a swift pebble le Mayo 😂
Its insane how ganking is heavily incentivised like this. No matter what in any invasion besides with the taunters tounge, you are most likely to be outnumbered.
Actually got tilted just watching this. Heard in Koop's stream yesterday that some of these slugs have gank discords and they plan this sorta thing. I also learned they really have a problem with the block button existing lmao
Jee went for it though, and that's the content right there.
Props to you for your dedication, endurance and whatnot, but it did really feel like an animal constantly butting their head against the same rock at the end there
Passwords bypassing level matchmaking was such a mistake. This is just sad. Makes me not miss ER during my break.
Let me try invading at lvl 60 to avoid this BS.
Password summons:
The beaches of Normandy on D-day:
The invaders won that one
I hate the hand holding in this game. The overleveled phantom at 15:59 does a running glintstone shard while moving and facing in the opposite direction of Jee, but the game has a turn cap so generous that he still aims the shard properly. No patch is going to fix that, the game is fundamentally broken.
The spells spam wouldn’t be such problem if fromsoft allowed for the followup casting animation only on small/medium spells and not for something big like cometshard
Look at star shower. Spell spam will always be a problem with er spells designed for easy spam.
They'd have to go back on the cast time, tracking, fp cost and poise damage changes of this game.
Normalize severing during s when you see a gank squad buffing
I think severing these areas is the way to go tbh, if you were to fight somewhere else with enemies and cover your odds would improve a lot
Probably one of the worst ganks I've ever seen. I was like "At least they're not teabagging" and then 4:07. The audacity of these people is incredible.
Idk if anything was edited out, but notice how they started bagging when someone almost died? And it was the host that took a fight and got run off not long before. He started to remember their skill level and needed an ego boost.
I think he teabagged specifically because of his lil comet spam twice and then the delayed cast that caught G9. He must’ve been like haha get rollcaught I’m so much better than you (ignore that I’m part of a posse) 🤓
I had a similar gank today. But they were using pikes, spells and dragon incantations on this beach. 😂
Worst ganker spots are definitely the beach and that cave where you are locked in an enclosed place.
Honestly, the most impressive thing on display is Jee's mental fortitude. Most people would have ragequitted.
I dont think so man all invaders know that invading is hella host sided especially now
He and chase never give up. Honestly if they were together they would massacre these piece of shit non-skilled players
He wouldn't rage quit his job because of trash gankers.
I would've chainsaw'd and blocked them honestly. If they were gonna fight Radahn, they would've done it. They're there to grief using an exploit so I consider it fair game to chainsaw them.
Thats stooping to their level. Just leave and block. G9 honestly made a mistake here. The more he entertains these kind of fights, the more of these kind of fights will happen..
@@jiddy30sometimes you have to get a little dirty when cleaning up the jungle 🦧🦧
@@jiddy30nah it’s not - the difference between chainsaw and what these gankers are doing is that they wouldn’t be able to pull off chainsaw.
@@Vash141nah. You say "clean up the jungle" when they die, reset and are back down there in like 5 minutes ganking again. If anything, wasting more of their time in their world just dodging around over and over would do more. Would at least stop other invaders from coming in and getting repeatedly stomped. The area needs fixed.
@kyrnyx3070 what do you mean by "chainsaw," do you mean the Ghiza Wheel? What does that comment refer to
truly a Michel Zaki vision of all time
We must ask if Sisyphus is happy...
This is every invasion on xbox. I'm convinced that these type of people hate playing Elden ring. So they take big chunks of their time to stop other people from playing it by gankin.
I play Xbox and agree that in Xbox this is much more usual. I don't know why.
ER invasions are just cancer, it's why I quit pretty much a few months after the game was launched..
They did not balance the game at all with invaders in mind.. Invaders are massively under leveled and then the host can have massively over leveled CO-OP partners..
The reality is that 99% of invasions are with over leveled phantoms unless you invade at RL 150+ and even then you can still get them. Atleast at the start of the game you could invade people of similar levels together since they're running through the game together, it quickly turned into people using all the OP broken stuff and having a high level phantom run them through the game and level 20s getting moonveil from a phantom off the bat.
I get invasions like these frequently at the RL I invade at and it drives me nuts. Props to you for not losing your cool because after a few dozens deaths I probably would've just blocked them and gone and do something else.
The best ER video so far. Mokadzaki has to watch this
Not going to lie, the game should switch on friendly fire during invasions to prevent such braindead spam...
Yeah, it's like invaders can't have any chance unless they are 3x better than all the people in the game..
1. Invaders deal friendly fire..
2. You almost never get another invader anyway.
3. 80%+ of the time it's a team of 3 or team of 2 with a blue that spawns in.
4. The way invading works is that you ALWAYS invade someone a higher level than you and with a better weapon.,
5. damage scaling is awful so high level phantoms have massive health, massive defense, and still do massive damage..
chasethebro would eliminate all three blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back
Honestly would love to see chase face this lol. Bro seems invincible and its insane 😂
chasethebobo wholesome 100 insta kill all gankers
chasethebro never uploads videos where he dies. he makes that annoying voice over all the time which has no soul. he is just so fake.
"Backstab? Backstaaaaab!"
I think chase cuts a lot content.Theres no way somebody can win this
Btw thank you fromsoftware for nerfing barrier of gold, really shows how much they understand their own game 👍
Send Miyazaki this video and ask him what to do.
Much respect to you man for taking these guys on without resorting to glitches. It's mages like that who make feel ashamed for being a fair spellblade enjoyer. Magic really needs a rebalance :(
This makes me feel a little better as an invader since I can't survive HALF as long as you can against these. You're an inspiration!
Frankly - magic needs no rebalance, ER just needs to switch on friendly fire during invasions so spamming gankers end up killing each other.
@@mareczek00713 I would have no qualms with that either. The level of spam that can be done in this game is just a disgrace. 😤
I think password match making should stay restricted to level ranges, still, too. (Meta can only password match metas, etc) that would help, too.
That flask that negates all magic damage was a must here. Used it when game came out so maybe it got nerfed but was super underrated in invasions where it’s primarily magic spammers. One sip and you’re just immune to magic damage for like 30 seconds. Allows you to aggress.
10:59 what you say about chainsaw is so true. I've seen a LOT of invaders recently resort to chainsawing when things get even a little tough but there's no merit to it because it's just not skilful, and makes you look salty and just as shameless as the gankers
Chat has a boner for it though. I don't really know why. Jee doesn't do it and Steel frowns upon it most of the time. But some of these dudes suggest chainsaw within 5min of a "problem" presenting itself.
@@kimlee6643 Chat obviously has a skill issue
This is the one thing I'll disagree with jee on. Not that I don't respect the mindset, but I don't think it makes you as shameless as them.
If you're going to abuse every mechanic possible, I say it's fair game. Not everyone wants to rise up to the challenge of facing an impossible gank and play by their rules. Not everyone cares about trying to display skill in a scenario where you're predetermined to lose because your opponents are basically cheating.
Again, I respect the mindset. Imo though, if you exploit, you get exploited.
Bros invading on Normandy Beach
NGL this makes me feel a lot better about invading lol
pov: miyasaki is a necromancer and he has crated literally virtual ghouls 🤢
Those guys at the beach are still at it constantly. Ran into them a few times the other day. Every time I would spawn there they would always rebuff too. Gankers just really have too much time on their hands.
My favorite spot to invade! where all brave just PvE enjoyers wait for some reason until an evil red man comes to bring justice to the lands between. I don't even know why you can invade at this spot, it is just not winnable against a proper 3-man-gank squad since it is a small open field. Also, you better watch out not to get exposed like this again G9, they clearly out-skilled you! 3 vs 1 means they were 3 times better (ganker logic, the fact that some people really upload a 3 vs 1 and call it "out skilled" is damn crazy)
Loved when you told chat off about the Chainsaw, see it so many times these days where invaders start chainsawing just about anything for no reason. Hope the future patches actually remove it for real this time
Game of the year everyone. Glad the community is so fast to simp over FS, it sure pays off!
Those are the people that exclusively do pve, and have hardly done any pvp, guatentee it
@@Laoruperteen18 aren't those the ones that cry because "red man bad" and bash FS for not letting their max level friends carry their entire game without being invaded?
Game of the year is justified. What's not is "best multiplayer" lmao
@@MiyazakisPVPexperienceyour name and pfp actually made me laugh lmao
Pvp is absolutely cancerous and i have gone through three controllers in the past six months. But i cant stop playing it its still fun
They still did not shut this areas down for invasions, on the other hand redmane castle and murkwater cave exist.
Honest PVE'rs
Physick flask change would have trivialized this I think, poise physick and non-physical absorption one, just nuke the ps halberd player while the other two heal you. Now it's a 2v1, much .ore manageable.
This is why I eventually quit elden ring pvp
Respect you for not losing your head in that situation
Best multiplayer game of 2022!
I still will never understand how gankers find this fun. Pushing all the advantages into their favor where they don't even have to think they just have to mash buttons in this small area to win.
friendly stun between host and phantoms, and these guys would be dead under 30 seconds
Imagine actually sitting there and playing the game like this for hours. Absolute glue eaters
one word: CHAINSAW
Thank you for reminding me why the finger severer exists
I hate gankers ambushing at Radahn's gate. The invader stands no chance.
Thought it was gonna be clickbait 1st time I've seen Jee die this much ever, or finally met a gank he couldn't spank.
Haven't played elden ring in like 7 months, and seeing this video makes me think that was the right course of action
Dedication is Key. Its these endless agonizing invasion sessions starting in Dark Souls 1 that helped forged me into who I am today ( I still suck ass, I just don't get THAT upset anymore )
Me waiting for the day fromsoft makes this area an invader deadzone: 👴
Playing 3 missile boats here! LOL
Losing doesn't bother me, what makes me crazy is players like these thinking they are good players...
I love Elden Ring but this kind of situation pisses me off so much that it makes me want to uninstall the game.
I've always thought so since the beta of this game but the lock distance is indecent.this possibility for magicians to hide behind excessive magic spam.
I think they increased the lock distance because of the level design which is much larger compared to souls. They also increased it to make the game simpler too
In fact I think I know where AC6's influences come from.
I admire Jee's dedication. devs at fromsoft should understand that their game is so one-sided to the host that what really carries the activity for invasions is the sheer dedication of invaders to deal with this BS, many throw down the towel and go back to dark souls 3, i for sure would not have invaded these shameless players more than twice.
They understand perfectly, its by design. Can't risk losing the casual audience now that their games are huge money makers. Invaders not being cartoonishly disadvantaged would scare away all those Reddit sales.
I could see ganking like this being amusing for a session or two but long term idk how these people do it
Maybe they create content for yt? Theres no way of knowing, cause you and i wouldnt watch it
You would be surprised. The same kind of people who do this, are the same kind of people who are STILL ganking 24/7 at Pontiff's area in DS3, despite how dead the game has gotten there. And a lot of those kinds of people display obsessive behavior, and a disproportionately high number of them post exposed videos of them "trashing" invaders 3v1, as if it were something to be proud of. Some of them go even further as to make fake accounts of good players to make fake videos to drum up clout.
Been the same since DeS / Ds1, its honestly probably some symbiotic shit of them getting pissed off by shitass invaders or twinks and then turning to this as some kind of "revenge".
@@Joeggurnaut546 Yeah, it's called Spiteful's disease.
Average elden rong invasion experience
Seeing you trying to find ways to beat such a difficult gank is highly entertaining.
The odds being impossible is the best situation.
Tbh thought do you know the definition of insanity?
Shoulda got a tree sentinel sheild for this kind of fight.
The blender is real
Without the nerf in barrier of gold that would be an easy trio
They re max level, they have access to law of regression
@@Jeenine that would nerf themselfs too without the buffs they wouldn't 2 shot you and it would be possible to approach them
just a group of friends trying to complete the game
Getting summoned as Spear of the Church in DS3 was way more fun than having to jump into Arena or invading in ER and having to deal with spell and incantation spammers. It's not even that they are hard to deal with, it's just boring. DS3 combat was mostly melee and that's what made it better.
The thing about gankers that always perplexes me is they're not playing for fun. A 3v1 isn't that fun. They're just playing to piss other people off. How sad it is to waste their time.
dude psss, the ultimate turn and burn with massive fast dps..
Rather than recreating vow of silence from should implement the sacred order heal glitch into a spell. This would allow gankers to spam their spells without damaging the invader, but still forces the invader to roll or be rstaggered
Not the glitch as it pertains to magic damage but as it pertains to *projectile* magic damage
I wonder how would the outcome be if he knew about the broken claws this time
The Beach Boys "Surfing Caelid"
spell and aow spam is the reason i can't stand invasions in elden ring. actually tragic.
I died several times to a Sleep-build Lag-switcher and took every loss. He would lag-switch even if I damaged him. He couldn’t handle me damaging him, let alone a single loss.
I kept on playing even after all that bullshit (even had a wholesome moment with a chill Host and Phantom in that same place u died in the video lol), meanwhile he’s one loss away from having a mental breakdown.
I won the mental-game in the end. Even if I didn’t get my revenge, I played long enough to see yet another asshole get BODIED by a chad-ultra GS player in a 2v2. It was glorious.
He DC’d even if we didn’t gank in a 2v2. karma is such an attractive bitch lol 😂
this video snd comment section is just my favorite 😂😂😂 i come bacc every so often just to laugh
It reminds me of all those shitty players like Basel Jamalo, Great Tallal, ABIDIN61 etc... who ambush you in unlikely places.
I genuinely don't understand how losers can gank like this and not feel pathetic for doing it.
I was thinking.. overloaded build for poise w light roll flask, a thrusting sword w bloodhound step and the two talsimans for the multi hit buffs, but again would also have its shortfalls.
I miss dark souls 3 man
If Jee can't win these, how are us mere mortals supposed to???
now this is content
Well done getting the last word on these bums. Inspirational.
It wasnt the same people
Rats!
I've been through this so many times. Shitters magic spam then hate message you and I've learned to run barrier of gold, erdtree great shield, and golden vow along with multiple forms of regen and the magic defense talisman with the pearl drake talisman both +2. Still tho with an area like this I'd keep going in this war of attrition until they become tired thats the only real win you can get from this torture until fromsoft nerfs most if not all forms of magic and ranged projectiles into the ground or atleast gives them severely diminishing returns after like 40 or 50.
And i thought first step gankers are bad, but this...this is abomination
Whenever I see this place I sever of all time!
This is why erdtree greatshield is always one of the best counter for mages, it makes the mages stop spamming spells. The golden retaliation also deals a massive amount of damage too.
It just makes it so they have to roll once between spam lol
This is why Jeenine is the GOAT! THE GOAT!!!! He embodies the champion of the people, he subject’s himself to this abuse, and shows us how to persevere.
Think you woulda had them with bhs or lances; despite the lock-on issues. Chrimsonwhorl would probably be justifiable, though youd trivialize outplaying the projectile spam
insane invading area
This is the reason right here folks that BoG need that 60% damage negation
Agreed...I understand people were worried about mage builds being "useless" or getting "shutdown" but this video right here is the prime example of why it shouldn't have been nerfed. I can only understand a nerf to BoG if magic damage in its entirety got nerfed. I'll even say the same for physical damage.
So you see an overlevel scaling and player number problem and you dont think they would just switch damage type or use law of regression
@Jeenine wait lemme rephrase it.
Nothing should do this much damage in pvp. We saw a swift glintstone shard take like ⅙ or 1/7th of your hp, which is insane since Swift glintstone Shard is like one of the faster (if not the fastest) sorcery in the game.
Honestly, they should just remove these types of areas from the invasion areas cause there is basically no coverage to actually run and get a safe heal off or block spells. This or either they should add a bit of cover
@@Jeenine Idk about that guy...but me personally wasn't stating that overlevel scaling or player numbers wasn't a problem. Clearly it is. What im stating is that BoG in that scenario would've helped and even if they swapped damage types you'd still have PoTE as tool. As for LoR...you really think those goobers would've used it??? They didn't even bother to use it to wipe your physick buffs so I doubt it.
Also, one must imagine Sisyphus
Best multiplayer game of the year