Beating HIGH Prices, How I Make My Own Cheap Bar Oil!
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- Beating high prices how I make my own cheap bar oil. I've been wanting to do this for sometime, but when bar oil prices started to get close to $15 dollars a gallon I decided to try an alternative.
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Theres a lot of nay sayers on this subject. My thinking on using waste oil is that at the time that i drained the oil from my engine the oil was still adequate for lubricating all the intricate moving parts and bearings in my diesel engine worth thousands of dollars and it will be just fine for the relatively low demand job of lubing my $50 chainsaw bar for one pass. I have been using waste oil in my saws for several years now, and i get great results. No wear and plenty of oil being carried on the drive links. If you are concerned about bar wear, then you should be focusing your energy on your chain sharpening game rather than expensive bar oil. Running with a dull chain and bearing down to cut through wood will kill your bar even with the best bar oil
Well said sir I agree completely. I get a lot of feedback about the cons of doing this. The one that kills me is that I’m going to wear out my chain faster. I have worn out a lot of chains over my life but not one was due to lack of lubrication. Seems like those little things that do the cutting seem to always wear out first. Thanks for stopping by.
And I thought I was the only cheap skate out there that done this 😂
Motor oil has to meet all kinds of quality standards.
Bar oil can be anything,
manufacturer's can put anything they want on the label and still not meet any standard.
My Dad always used used oil in his saws. 30W in the winter and 90W gear oil from farm tractors in the summer. We were using saws with manual oilers so we would really pump it to it. When I started sawing on my own I mixed bar oil with motor oil, 50-50. Never had issue with premature wear of bar or chain.
Frank that’s what I remember when I was younger just pour in whatever you have. I remember pumping that oiler as well. Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
I bet that 90 weight was pleasant, he can probably Stihl smell it too!
Try bar oil and gasoline, 50/50, it’s really a thing.
I've been using filtered sump oil for over forty years with no wear issues. I now use cheap Canola oil with good results.
I’ve heard of people using the canola oil. I wanted to give it a try but it was still too pricey compared to the used motor oil. Thanks for stopping by.
Been selling firewood as a side hustle since 16, 33 now and used engine oil was always available at my dad's mechanic shop. Been using the stuff for years and my chains/bars last forever. I do the same thing, filter it with a shirt.
Yeah I really don’t see any issues. I’m three plus years with no problems. It’s about time to check with the neighbors and stock up I’m running a little low. Thanks for watching.
I've done this for years without an issue except it slings a little more than bar oil. Good to hear others are doing this.
Jerry I’m at almost two years and no issues. Lots of haters out there though mainly the ones that claim I’m destroying the environment. Merry Christmas.
I've done a bit of research and the only thing I would think prudent to add would be a strong magnet to the funnel to remove any metal fragments/particulates. Good video, thanks for sharing.
Matthew so far it’s been doing well with no problems. I think February will be two years using only recycled oil.
Project Farm did a pretty good comparison test and motor oil did the job pretty well, just have to be aware of it not sticking to the chain as well is all. The heat of the bar was good with the motor oil though and wear was also very competitive.
Maybe the best of both worlds is to mix it 50/50 with bar oil to get some tackiness in there. It would at least cut the price in half. 👊😉
Yeah that could be an option. Thanks for watching and stopping by.
I was thinking of adding some STP to used motor oil to get the tackiness.
@@jeffren70I use Lucas oil stabilizer it has lots of tack to it. Works great
I've never tried this. I suppose if I used my saw daily and were going through gallons of bar and chain oil, I'd consider it. But I probably only use a gallon a year. Thanks for sharing, Ben.
You need to run your saw more. Have to have more wood for the stove to last you through the winter lol. We’ll see how it works out take care, Ben.
The only thing you have to watch is clogging up your oil pump, especially some of the new saws. I've heard guys having trouble with this. My old saws I would, but not my $1000 new Stihl. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks John for watching and stopping by. I’m going to keep an eye on it but so far so good. I agree about doing this with a high dollar saw might think twice about it. Take care, Ben.
I have run used motor trans gear oil, but my local saw shop says it could burn the pump up, but I bet I saved at least 500 on oil, I run a Stihl 440 mag,. But I do run new oil every once in a while to clean it. I've been running it over 10 years. I have over 1000 cords of wood on the saw. It my baby
I used old gearbox oil from my tractor. I have only bought 2 5 liter bottles of bar oil in 20 years. I found using sump oil blocked the oiler ( I didn't strain it through cloth though)
So far no issues. I sure like the price.
@@OGAOutdoors Straining the oil should help.
I started using my burnt oil last year when prices went up. Works good. Only thing its dirtier.
Keith I like it seems to me that my saw oils better or at least I can see the oil on the bar. Take care, Ben.
Great video. My dad used to run used motor oil, we never had a problem with it other than it was messy. I use 15w40 or hydraulic oil , whatever’s have around, never have a problem. Also I hydraulics my processor.
Peter thanks for watching and stopping by. Since doing this video seems people run about anything for bar oil with no issues. Take care, Ben.
Can't blame you for running used oil with prices as high as they are. Local farm tractor supply was having a discount sale today so I picked up a new Echo CS-590 for $380. Couldn't pass that up. But I'm going back to using motor oil for the bar w/ a 50/50 split. I even think the 50:1 premix is a ripoff. Mix your own gas, and save.
Sounds like a good deal on the saw. I checked bar oil at my local store and it has gone down a couple dollars still $15 a gallon though. I have never run the premixed always mix my own. Thanks for stopping by take care,Ben.
I do some chainsaw carving, and in my carving saws I run canola oil and sometimes vegetable oil (not used). As long as you get the particulates out of the oil and it hasn’t lost it’s viscosity, you should be fine. - vegetable oil makes your saw smell like french fries sometimes. So there’s that bonus too. If you see the bar start to smoke, you’re not getting enough lubrication. Vegetable oil is a lot cheaper than bar oil, but I don’t think you can mix vegetable oil and used motor oil very well.
Denny good to know I’m sure I couldn’t run the vegetable oil I would be looking for the French fries. Like I said so far so good thanks for watching and stopping by hope to see you again. Take care, Ben.
My dad ran old motor oil sometime just to use up old drain oil when he had it or was out of bar oil. But in them days the bar oil had a manual pump on the saw.
Been doing the same for quite a while. Oil from my gator, zero turn, and CUT get changed every year and never looks bad (burnt).
Oh yeah I’m two years in and no issues. Sure does help the wallet with today’s bar oil prices.
I have been running used engine oil for years i strain it and mix in a little lucas oil stabilizer to add some tack to it wors great.
For sure. I just can’t make myself pay $15 - $20 per gallon.
I've used cheap vegetable oil in my good chainsaw. Had some trouble with clogging but if you watch carefully , it works.
Bob I’ve never used vegetable oil I’m going to stick with the motor oil for now. Just keep a close eye on everything. Thanks for watching take care, Ben.
I have tried both used motor oil, and vegetable oil, I prefer vegetable oil.
My dad started to work with chainsaw since he was very young and there was no money to buy bar oil or maybe they didn’t sell it but he said he never had any issues with the chain or the wearing fast. And now I use used motor oil for all my chainsaw and still no problem at all other that the smell.
Juan good to hear I’ve had several others tell me the same thing. I’ve been using the oil almost a year with no issues. Thanks for watching and stopping by Merry Christmas. God bless.
Years ago that was all we ever ran was used motor oil. The only thing I didn't like about it was it stained your boots and pants black. But never had a problem with having enough lubrication.
We used to go to the car repair shop and they would give it to us for free.
I did try it in my tree harvester but it made a real mess on the cutting head.
I know it will work just fine if you don't mind the mess.
Take care my friend!!😀😀
Logger Al
Thank for the info AL.. I know it did ok in my Sthil MS211 but I did want to run it in my 461 in case there was any ill effects that I did know of..
Al if that’s all I have to worry about are black boots I should be okay. Thanks for the tip about swinging by the oil change store I may have to check into that. Take care hope to see you on the next one, Ben.
Now thats a good tip. Thanks
@@zweitaktpower5218 Thanks for watching and stopping by. Have a good weekend take care, Ben.
I was told that if I used a synthetic oil it is better for a chainsaw than regular vehicle oil...although bar and chain oil is thicker and stickier than automobile oil and stays on the saw longer, but I can't see spending money on new oil when you can reuse oil...UPSIDE is that you save money buying new oil and paying for disposal is a win in my book
Kevin so far no regrets whatsoever. I’ve got about five gallons on hand right now so that’s saving me around $70. Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
I have used trans and gear oil in a pinch as bar oil, I wouldn't use old motor oil because it does not have any tackiness to it. When I buy bar oil I buy the cheapest I can find, however for two smoke mix I buy the good stuff.
Ray it’s working good so far no complaints. I agree about buying the cheaper bar oil only problem is there’s none available any more. Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
Necessity is the father of invention, they say. I’ll agree with Logger John on this one. Yet, as long as you filter the heavies, you should be fine. I would do such in my smaller saws, older saws, but I won’t do it until I absolutely have to in my Echo 680 or Husqvarna 395. I figure if a person has enough money to buy expensive saws (especially the Husky), then they can afford conventional bar oil.
I guess time will tell. That’s why I run these 590s they seem to be pretty bulletproof and come at a good price. Appreciate you watching and commenting take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors I bought a Timberwolf when they first came out. It’s still running strong. No telling how much firewood it’s cut. I will try to put a piece of hose over that plastic handle sometime to knock down on vibration. Other than that, it’s paid for itself many times over. Very economical, too.
@@Mark-Marine Yes I originally bought a Shindaiwa 591 same saw just red. It was like $80 cheaper that day and then I bought the 590 in the video last summer. I’m hoping they last for many years.
@@OGAOutdoors Ben, I use to have a Shindiawa that I used so long and so hard to cut firewood. It was decades ago and ahead of its time in ease, comfort, and speed. Since Echo and Shindiawa merged, you can bet they both will last. I run a lot of Echos from the topping saw to the 420p, 590 Timberwolf, cs-680, 730evl, and the 820p (which I regrettably sold). My “big saw” now is a husky 395xp. I prefer the Echos.
@@Mark-Marine Mark sounds like you’ve got it covered. I was told that Shindaiwa is no longer making saws. At least that’s what my dealer told me. Take care, Ben.
My friend runs a firewood business with a processor and uses quite a bit of bar oil. He found some $6.99/gal oil by Mystik Lubricants recently. Bought 10 cases. I popped one open and took a wif.. smelled like gear oil I swear.. lol.. I would think motor oil will be fine (especially stained and mixed) many have ran it that way for yrs.. other than staining the plastic probably good to go.
Thanks for watching and stopping by. $7 a gallon is a good price for sure no telling the contents think I’ll stick with the black gold for now. Take care, Ben.
Good idea.. fill chain oil 100% full.... and 75% fill fuel tank... saves chain if oiling the bar too fast... drill out bar oil ports if too stingy lubing...
I just fill them both 100% and never really had a problem. I did drill one of my bars but that was when I was using regular bar oil. I haven’t had that problem since switching to the used motor oil.
I usually when I take and change my oil in my car I add a couple of 16 oz STP to the oil in my car and then run it a little while mix it good and then I drain it and I usually use it for bar oil if it's a little thin I take and put a little gear oil into it and shake it
Thickened up with some STP. I’ve never really put much thought in it I just run what I have. I do make sure to strain everything. Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
Been running used oil in my saws for over 40yrs, we just screen the oil
Sounds like it’s working well for you good to know. I’ve got no complaints and so far no adverse effects to my saws or my health lol. Enjoy your Sunday sir good to hear from you take care, Ben.
I pick up oil at garage sales, so on cheap cheap, but I lace it with Lucas oil or other sticking oil which you can some times pick up at garage sales , chain oil is not a make or break it deal for myself in a sense, but bars and chains are.
Ed that is a good idea never really thought about looking at garage sales etc. Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
My old school buddy’s do the same thing but they only do that worth their older saws.
I run only echos 590s not very pricey. I figure I can do repairs with money saved. So far no issues. Thanks for watching take care, Ben.
In S.E. Asia almost everybody uses old motor oil for the chainsaws.
I’ve been using it for quite some time and no complaints. Take care, Ben.
A) I would set up a system and use a bit more than a T shirt, then B) I would add some store stuff to it, about 1-6 or so.
So far it’s working great. It’s been a couple years and no problems so far.
great. As much as you use your saw, I would think that in 2 years you would have a good understanding if you were wearing the bar and chain faster with your system. back about 50 years ago I met a man who cut trees for a living,,, (about an acre a day, clearing rights of way) and he bought the Gulfpride remanufactured oil, and added a pint of STP to a 2 gallon can of the oil.@@OGAOutdoors
Buy a bottle of STP oil treatment for cheap and mix into your used motor oil…. To add viscosity…..
works great still cheaper than buying BAR oil
I'd like to know if it runs through to the bar quicker, making fill up the reservoir more often. Must spray off the chain more too?
I haven’t had any issues as of yet. It doesn’t seem to use the oil any faster I just fill up when I fill with gas. To me it seems to oil better but maybe that is just because you can see the oil better than regular bar oil. Take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors thanks for your reply. I'll give it a go. Jono
I usually cut that Tractor supply bar oil with used motor oil or ATF, mainly to thin it out a bit.
Yes it’s pretty thick. I’m taking cutting to the next level. Take care, Ben.
Try gasoline, it’s far cheaper than atf.
Several videos elsewhere on alternative bar-oil says old motor oil is bad for the environment. Used and strained or fresh cooking oils of correct viscosity seems to be popular.
I’ve heard of people using cooking oils. The only problem with that was when I checked the prices at the grocery store the stuff was not cheap. I guess you could find it online in bulk. Thanks for watching.
Yea those 590s are Awsome. I know for a fact they last at least 2 years in daily use with the local law. And tree services in the area. And they put them thru the ringer. Will probably last me 20 years.
Yes I really like them. I’ve had my Shindaiwa 591 about 5 years with really no issues. Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
Can't argue with your economics of the saw price and cost of oil.
Everything is still working fine. When I made this video I think bar oil was $12 ish now it’s about $18.
A mess to clean, I realized with ND30, wont collect debris around the clutch and assembly as much as "pro" bar oils.
Non detergent oil, no emulsifying water. ISO46 is the same thing straight base stock, contaminants fall out of suspension rather than debris going thru the oiler.
Little atf type f for winter, 10wt. Old school.
Ask nearby farmers for some old oil. We always have some.
Yeah pretty much everyone around here is a farmer. I live next door to a truck repair/salesman who has a lot too. Guess I need to get back to cutting to keep up with the supply. 😆
I would just make sure that your chain oiler is turned up all the way. I have an old bar for my echo 590. I might try to use motor oil in that saw.
So far it’s working fine and I love the price. Take care, Ben.
Hi Ben, Are you still recycling used motor oil for bar oil? Any issues with the saws after doing it for almost a year? Looking for a follow up video.
Denny still using it in all my saws. No issues to speak of either. Hard to believe it has been a year. Great idea on the follow up video glad you thought of that. Stay tuned appreciate you stopping by.
Worse can happen is wear on the bar. Not the end of the world. I used to use old motor oil back when I had manual oiler saws and really pumped to them.
I am interested to here how well that works for you. Thanks for sharing Ben!👍👍
Currently I really don’t see any issues but time will tell. Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
I have been running wesson vegtable oil for 3 years in all my saws it work,s great.
Sandy thanks for the info I may have to give that a try. Take care, Ben.
This seems better for the planet as well
I put though some 5w-20 and the chain started smoking like crazy. 10w-30 or thicker has seemed to work well.
I haven’t really paid attention to the viscosity I’ve just been running it. Haven’t noticed any issues but what you say makes sense. Take care, Ben.
Regular bar oil is 30w oil. Motor oil will work. Even have used transmission fluid in my older saws with no problems.
I worry the viscosity of the oil is compromised being burnt, personally i run and swear buy a mix 1gal used motor oil, 1qt farm hydraulic fluid, 1/2qt transmission fluid and then a large container of vegetable oil from Sam's club. Mix it in empty 5gal bucket with lid and running all my saws last 2 years great! Safe sawing out there
Jake so far no issues. If I have problems I may have to give your recipe a shot. Thanks for stopping by.
@@OGAOutdoorsI'll be watching, happy new year brother!
That’s a good idea,I don’t see how it would hurt the chainsaw,just a lubricant..nice job!
Thanks that was my thinking by straining it not much left that could stop up the pump. Have a good weekend take care, Ben.
That's a great idea, Ben! I have heard of this method used by loggers here in Oregon. With gas and oil prices skyrocketing, you might save $20/gallon soon! 😳
Thanks Steve I’m pleased so far. I’m hoping it doesn’t get to the point where I’m saving $20 I’m ready for these oil prices to trend in the other direction. Take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors I just paid $14.99 last month for a gallon of bar oil. Thankfully, Oregon doesn't have a sales tax.
Good evening Sir, if you were using ( clean ) moto oil will be pretty good but using ( used ) motor oil with all the left over second burn oil ( what makes the oil black ) is very high carcinogenic in accordance with all the oil makers and whmis safety data sheet ( OSH ), no thank I rather use the right stuff, chainsaw are very expensive Sir here in Canada. Thank you very kindly and do keep up your OUTSTANDING videos Sir Cheers 👍👌😉🍻
Dave thanks for watching as always. Yes chainsaws are expensive along with everything else it has gotten crazy. I guess going forward I will not show what I’m pouring into the saw you will just have to wonder lol. Happy Sunday brother almost time for church. Take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors 🤣🥴👌👍 Keep a mask during your pouring it may help a little 🤣🥴👌 Cheers Man and you too take care Sir 🤣👍🍻
What is your advice to oil saws? Got the Corona Razor Tooth and not sure what oil to use.
As far as bar oil I just use whatever I can find. I use Husqvarna XP synthetic for two cycle mix.
I buy cheep five gallon hydraulic oil 35 bucks then I heat up a cheep tube of grease enough to pour add it to the 303 hydraulic and stir its better than that cheep bar oil you buy used oil works in a pinch but it's nasty and modern oil pumps are not as robust as older saws are you saving money yes but one oil pump and 100 bucks later not so much, how about building a filter that you could dump a couple gallons in with multiple layers with a catch jug pour it in come back a week later and you will have way cleaner oil still black but so much better .I built one at my old place with a piece of 4 inch pipe and old empty tank and a little welding
Thanks for watching sir. Thanks for all the tips I’ll have to keep those in mind for some rainy day projects. Take care,Ben.
Congratulations on your achievements during this jubilant time, we hope from you
I use the same thing, have done for 30 years, never had an issue.
it will eventually rot the oil line in the tank and hurt the pump; i have replaced lines on saws from people that have used old oil.
I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I get there. Close to a year and so far all is good. Thanks for watching and the feedback take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors yes; one has to weigh the costs. most tanks have about 4 bolts. the tank and all the lines turn to mush. the pickup gets clogged with sludge. i clean everything and blow air through the system and install a bought or made gasket.
@@jimsworthow531 sounds like you do good work sir. I only have about $350 ish in my saws so I’m getting ahead pretty quick with the savings. At least that’s my thinking.
Howdy Ben, “ 5w 20, probably gonna sling that 30 ft.,” made me laugh. I think your on to something, said you talked to old fellas, and I see a pro, Logger Al, said that they used it, sounds tried and true. I’ve heard of guys say they used Veg. Oil , don’t know about that, I’d stick with the used motor oil, and the fact it’s been fine. Have a good weekend
Mike we going to see I’m thinking worse thing I might mess up the pump or clog the filter on a $300 saw. More to follow best I can remember grandpa poured whatever he had into the saw. Thanks as always good to hear from you take care, Ben.
Keep in mind, the automakers still say to change oil every 3000 or so, we agree, along with very good mechanics,BS.. 8000 is more real, but then they don’t make as much. I think you’ll be just fine, buddy take care
that's a good way to recycle your old motor oil. We have been doing it for years with no harm to the chainsaw .
Thanks good to know plan to keep running the motor oil as long as the saw doesn’t complain. Take care, Ben.
Like the idea. Think Ive heard of this. Will continue to watch. Keep me updated. Have a Safe Day
Will do may be a part two, hopefully not a cs 590 with a melting bar. Thanks take care, Ben.
Food grade cheese cloth, try that. Great idea. Loved your video.
Thanks I may give that a try.
nice, i know bar oil seems so expensive lately, thanks for tips
Thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.
Straight 30 weight non detergent
Shoot I’m running whatever I have. I was at tractor supply yesterday and the stuff was $17 a gallon. I just changed the oil in my truck 5w-20 synthetic blend soon to be ran in the saw. Heck at these prices I save enough using the burnt oil to buy a new saw if necessary. Take care, Ben
vegetable oil is fine as long as you use your saw pretty much every week or more often… otherwise it will gum up and be a huge pain in the ***. used motor oil probably works great, but disposing used motor like this will make most of it fling right into nature and contaminate your soil and ground water.
Vegetable oil gum up does sound like a pain. Thanks for watching take care, Ben.
You can hold your measuring stick in your left hand don't have to keep putting it in your pocket
Gary thanks for stopping by appreciate you watching. Yes I’ll give that a try stick in the left hand while cutting. Hope to see you on the next one. Take care, Ben.
Use the wrong oil will destroy pump parts used oil has fuel in it from combustion
I’m starting year three just using the used motor oil and still no issues.
Great on your own property. Not everyone wants you slinging motor oil around their property, nor legal in many places but my biggest problem is that it is more expensive even if you are reusing it, and that it's kind of foolish to be throwing away a great fuel source to cut firewood LOL
Okay? So it’s more expensive to use the motor oil that would be discarded anyway?
@@OGAOutdoors Was it free to begin with?
What are you on?
Ben
Motor oil is fine. It’s a environmental issue cutting in the forest.
Store bought bar oil is vegetable oil for the environmental tree huggers.
Really I’ve never heard that before. If I cut logs in the same spot the rest of my life I bet it has no effect on the environment.
@@OGAOutdoors Ben,
In the communist state of California in January 2024. Generators , chainsaws, gas mowers , trimmers. Will be outlawed. There coming after our natural gas heaters and stove next. It’s OK to destroy the rain forests for lithium and Kobalt for electric vehicles batteries.
Love Alabama but the weather is to tuff for this old guy.
I’m the big bass hunter you are .
@@mrk2163 yeah for the most part lots of sad things happening in this country. Hopefully someday things will get better. Thanks for stopping by.
I tried the used motor oil, then I got a diesel truck. Nope, not using that jet black soot. I don't think it would hurt my saw, but I'm afraid I might get some cancer on me. Now I filter my used deep fryer oil. It's thicker, and smells like french fries when I cut wood. Even fresh canola oil is only $5 a gallon. I'm not judging, I know we have to do something with used motor oil. I'm obviously not a hippie, because I burn wood, but canola oil has to be better for the environment and me too.
George thanks for watching and stopping by. I probably couldn’t focus on what I’m doing if I could smell French fries while cutting. So no issues with the cooking oil. You mentioned canola how about plain vegetable oil. We don’t fry foods so I have very limited experience with cooking oils. Take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors Regular vegetable oil works just as well. Canola oil is supposedly more healthy , so we cook with that now. Canola is also much cheaper, Great channel by the way!
@@papageo5 Thanks I laughed when you said healthier. I thought you were worried about my saws cholesterol level. I may look into the canola and see if I can ween them off the other. Catch you on the next one take care, Ben.
Good idea I agree
Back in the day. Old guys would use old oil as the 50 1 mix oil too…..
Chris I’m not sure I’m ready for that yet. Stick around though could be a future video. Take care, Ben.
I bigger saw and longer bar keeps from hunching over...
When I have longer logs I pick those up with my tractor helps out a lot.
Aw hell iy dont hurt a dam thing!!
I agree working great.
This is a great idea!
It’s working good so far. Thanks for watching.
I always saw my Dad using motor oil for bar oil - it was new oil however - it’s what he had on hand, and he didn’t use a chainsaw that much anyway. The normal bar oil seems to be much thicker than motor oil - they claim it sticks to the bar and chain better. I would like to know if there is anything wrong with using motor oil - new or used - I am guessing it would be just fine.
John yes I remember grandfathers pouring whatever they had in and it seemed to work fine. Yes bar oil is thicker so it may provide better lubrication time will tell. Take care, Ben.
Why not just use the bar on your saw to gauge length instead of packing that pipe around and having to pull it out of your pocket and put it back.
I’ve done the bar thing before just not my preferred method. The pvc is a lot lighter than holding up the saw and I’m more accurate. I can easily adjust on the go as opposed to some of the other marking tools as well. Like I say just what works best for me. Thanks for stopping by.
Add tackifier
The crazy thing is that people are responding to the higher prices....I don't...I changed all my habits in terms of spending money...This current government is killing the economy and small to medium and some big businesses are changing their rules raising prices and I think honestly they are digging their own grave...I Hope this ends soon...
Yes it’s rough everything is high. I don’t buy a lot of things I once did. I looked a couple days ago in Lowes and their cheap bar oil was still $18.
This really has nothing to do with your powerhead and it seams like the worse it could do is to increase wear on your chain or bar, but I doubt it. You also have to figure the new motor oil that you have to buy for your cars and tractor are going way up, so why not use that twice? I like that tree service red oak. I went this morning and picked a trailer load that looked a lot like that. I had to leave some behind because it was too much and I had to burn high dollar gas to go get it. You got a deal having it all delivered free.
Phil I’m thinking the worse I do is cause issues for a $300 saw which is worth way more than that. I don’t think there will be any problems but I’ll be sure to keep you posted. Take care, Ben.
Mix STP with it !!!!
What does it do? Thicken it up?
23 a gallon where I am.
Sounds painful I haven’t priced any in a long time. Probably won’t unless I get bored in the store. They’re building a new tractor supply near me I will there when it’s finished.
Good afternoon from Piqua Ohio.
Afternoon Stanley.
Using waste motor oil is a piece of shit move but it is cheap tho.
Stuff works great. I’ve been using it well over a year and no issues.
NICE VIDEO THANS
I see the financial benefit, but you're basically dumping motor oil on the ground. I get it if your vehicle leaks, but this is intentional to save a couple bucks. It can't be good for the environment. But I doubt I'll convince anyone not to... To each his own.
I noticed Tractor Supply is now selling a bio-degradable, plant-based bar oil. I'll not about that stuff as food, but if it's just being dumped on the ground, it's ecologically friendly, and is cheaper while sufficiently protecting the bar and saw, I'm down to try it.
I'm waiting for Project Farm to do a video comparing bar oils...
I haven’t seen the TSC oil yet. How much is it per gallon? Thanks for stopping by appreciate all the feedback.
@@OGAOutdoors It's called Better Than Oil and is made by B3C Fuels. After looking into it a little more, it's available through HD, Lowe's, Ace/True Value, Walmart, Meijer, and more. $20/gal. on sale at TS for $18/gal. and only available by Internet order. I was going to try to grab some at HD or Lowe's tomorrow.
canola oil cheap and better for enviroment
I’m thinking I looked at canola oil. Best I recall it wasn’t too cheap in my area. How much can you get it for? I may have to look again.
Clogging oil pumps. And motor oil has no cling factor to it. It just fly’s right off. So you will see premature bar and chain wear
And not to mention
Motor oil makes saws FILTHY just god awful to clean a saw with used motor oil
I pay 6.99 for a gallon of bar oil
Hard on oil pumps too
$6.99 is a good price. $18 last week at my local tractor supply. I’ve been using used motor oil about a year now with no issues. I do strain the oil before I use it so we’ll see. I can pay for a lot of parts with the money I’m saving. Thanks for stopping by appreciate the feedback take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors $24 plus 13% tax where I am.
@@SeeSaw72 Ouch!
That echo seems alil small
It does what I need it to do. May be something larger in the future. Take care, Ben.
Dont do this. I ran motor oil in one saw for a year and it wore the bar out, stihl bars arnt cheap either. With the same saw now I get 2+ chains before I need to change the bar. The best bar oil that strings off good is the husqvarna white bottle at tractor supply.
I haven’t noticed any issues. I’ve had several people say they run canola oil without problems. I guess a lot has to do with the saw and the operating conditions. Take care, Ben.
To save you 10 minutes... He filters waste oil thru an old t-shirt.
More importantly it saves money. Doesn’t take long for it to add up when bar oil is north of $15 a gallon.
It's only "waste oil" if you don't use it ! 👍
Waste oil loses all it's viscosity and lubrication abilities. No tactifiers either. Might as well use water. Running it causes excessive heat to the bar and chain. If you put it in a new saw that has a warranty, you instantly voided it. Get caught with waste oil in your saw doing commercial tree removal or production logging, it's a $5,000 fine for every saw that has it in its tank. Running real bar oil is way cheaper than destroying your bar, chain, oiler, oil lines, and the hefty fine you'll get running it on commercial jobs. There's a reason every saw manufacturer says never to use that crap in your saw.
Thanks for the feedback. I’m well beyond warranty on my saws. I don’t plan on doing any commercial work just my small firewood business so I think I’ll be ok. I guess time will tell but so far no issues. Take care, Ben.
@OGA Outdoors You can run what you want. I, on the other hand, don't enjoy bars, chains, and drive sprockets wearing out prematurely because of too much heat from waste oil with no viscosity and tactifiers to keep the oil on the components. A warrant is the least of my concern. I do my own repairs. Filtered or not, waste oil is the worst thing to run if you value your saws. Terrible idea.
@OGA Outdoors You change to oil in your car or truck, don't you? Why do you change it? It's because the oil has lost its lubrication abilities. Why put old oil in something else when it no longer lubricants? Why not just leave it in your vehicle? It's the same thing, right? It's like changing the oil in your car and putting the old oil into another car. It's stupid.
@@CutterCH What does your handle stand for?
@@OGAOutdoors Doesn't stand for anything.
Don’t know of you have any thought and concern about the environmental aspect. There is a reason why mineral oil is not recommended anymore as bar oil: try speeding up your chain in front of a piece of paper and you’ll see how much oil is spilled off the bar when running a chain saw. Meaning this method is quite a desaster for nature and ground water, as you are contaminating it with used mineral oil. If you give a shit about that, go ahead and “save” money. I’d rather use something that is ‘digestible’ for nature, like biological chain saw oil or vegetable oil. No offense intended, but truth being told.
Most bar oil sold in the US is mineral oil.
Please don’t do that to you saw, to the earth and to your bar and chain. Used oil will cost you more then 10 dollar a gallon bar oil.
Terrible advise
Thanks so far so good. I guess I’ll just be the experiment for everyone. It ran great again today. A couple weeks ago bar oil was $18 a gallon in my area. I’ll save enough to buy a new saw at those prices. Thanks for watching take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors pretty crazy. Only 7-8 dollars a gallon at tractor supply and those are everywhere
@@AATreeService That was at my local tractor supply for the County Line brand.
Try putting a magnet inside your oil container it may help filter out any small filings .
That would probably work. I’d find some way and end up with the magnet in the saw lol.
That's what I'm talking about , leave it up to me and I'll be putting bar oil out of business.
I went thru one qt of bar oil so fast that I would go broke buying bar oil.
Bar oil shouldn't be any more costly than a qt of motor oil if not cheaper.
Yes I agree for sure. I talked to some tree service guys and they were talking $6 prices at tractor supply I may need to check that out. Still doesn’t beat the used motor oil. Take care, Ben.
@@OGAOutdoors ....I get 6 qt from my wife's car and 7 qt from my car for free. Oil is lubricant so I don't see a difference in bar oil !
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So are you going to tell us or what
Robert I did a one year update video on using the bar oil. Here’s the link.
ua-cam.com/video/Gao089Vgrys/v-deo.html
My dad ran old motor oil sometime just to use up old drain oil when he had it or was out of bar oil. But in them days the bar oil had a manual pump on the saw.
Yeah I remember running saws with the manual oilers. So far so good no issues thanks for stopping by take care, Ben.