It's always crazy to me to see a game like this that has so much low effort market value get destroyed through mismanagement. The cost of operation of ffbe is dirt, and when they are doing things right the profit margins are in the millions per month.... HOW do you mess that up so badly you end up with a loss. 30 mins with the files and I could have the game back in its prime. Done it before, could do it again. The recipe for success is right there in the old FUN trials, that are now power crept into irrelevance.
This right here. How do they make so much money and can't afford to keep the game up?! Bad management all around. What did they spend all that profit on?! Sad times for this great game.
I appreciate the fact that Hiroki communicated everything in English. I agree, Sartre, the writing is on the wall and this was the final nail in the coffin. It's sad and I really enjoy the game, but father time has come ringing the death knell for FFBE global.
Day one player. I quit logging in 5 days ago.. Im letting it go. Im done... Yep feeling withdrawals.. Feeling defeated.. But letting it go man. Thanks for all the effort. You are on par with sinzar 8n my opinion. And its kinda like losing some friends.
It will keep chugging along with minimal content until SQEX finally pulls the plug. My guess is they'll finish translating the Season 4 story, which just finished up on the JP side, and then announce EoS. So probably by the end of this year.
I'm assuming it'll be Wilhelm for the new unit for Anniversary since he was voted on I think last year? As far as everything else, eh the writing was pretty much on the wall for the past couple of months. I do find it amusing that Hiroki basically came out and said that things won't be improving at all any time soon.
Personally I believe we all knew where the game was at. Deep down I truly hope that if end of service is something that can’t be avoided, the team has the passion for what they have created to go out in a blaze of glory. I don’t care if we see any new units for a time. Spend those resources making this a game again for the last however many months remain. I would rather play then pull👍🇨🇦
The money is in the units, not the content. Can't pay for game development if your revenue from unit investment is garbage. The fact is SE lost 100+ million last year from multiple failed projects and it's probably going to get worse for them because of Rebirth. FFBE has been pushed as far as it can go
Even though im not a huge fan of this game, As someone who was a Day 1 playing on a mobile game called “dissidia final fantasy opera omnia” i know how you feel. It recently got shut down in February due to this similar situation. It hurted me alot loved that game best gacha i ever played.
True! Forgot about that one. It's crazy how different the everything about the game feels since Hyoh was released. Things felt like they went downhill so fast T-T
I honestly have seen games going through similar and sometimes even worst situations and still survive of course is not easy and it depends a lot on the company but I don’t think it necesarily means eos in this cases is better to just chill and see how things go from here onn
Been real ffbe had a good run had to end sometime went to fan fiesta in long Beach California met Katy Perry dyer evil laughter etc etc goodbye on to p.s. 5 from here on out
Late to the show here but Sartre the only thing I want to see from this game now is an offline version for a single purchase price, or an archive of the story at the very least. FFBE has been struggling to stay afloat for years at this point so it's sensible they'd quietly retire it.
Yeah, I think a lot of ppl are hoping for some type of offline version where we can still just play around with what we've collected for so many years. Who knows what they'll do with it in the end.
I don't get this whole "We lack resources, so we can't provide that level of content we used to" They literally just have to not cut out content out of the game and everything would be fine, but they go to such lengths to ensure that we get less tha jp did. It's not like they have to prepare update packages, they just have to not take shit away and we're good.
My suggestions are to cut GLEX units down to one every three months. Frees up a lot of resources and time that they can spend on bringing over JPN content. Re-run older CoW, adjust the stats a bit for the NV+ era, and change the resists and killers to make it a bit different. Should be easy enough, maybe change the AI if that's not too difficult, but the initial things should be easy to do and again, saves a lot of time/money that can be spent on JPN content. Do that for awhile, see if things improve, cant hurt anymore than the games current state.
No matter how many times we say we want CoV back, they won't bring it. Instead they focused their limited resources with the fiasco that was CoW another, just to remove after three CoW.
I kinda fell out with this game when CoW started an got convoluted from then on where most units are just for that now when it was fine how it was before that an now it’s on its last legs because loads of people have gone.. afraid to say they went down the wrong road with this sadly
@@Chengyuan79 CowA was so bare bone and bad game desgin that its baffling how they didnt come to the conclusion what nonsensical mess they came up with and got past the approval. The aftermath of it just made it irrelevant and cow more convoluted for literally no benefit of the events gameplay experience.
I may be in store to be released from all my mobile games at once lol. FFBE, panilla saga, seven knights idle adventures all wearing thin to me. 2 near EoS - 1 just too whale friendly. Crystal knights has been meh too.
Welp, after watch the vid i feel like ffbe still had some future atleast. 2 month playing n i do have fun with it, maybe i will supp them a lil bit when aniv is appear LETS MAKE FFBE GREAT AGAIN GUYS!!🔥
A new player would have loads to do (just without our difficulty from years ago). Enjoy the game if you like. Support them a little, sure. Just do it with your eyes open, knowing that EoS is in the horizon. Cheers, yah?
They could have a whole army of game smart players who I'm sure could easily switch over to be game designers.. If Sinzar & company could create cheese strategies for all kinds of complicated trial bosses, I'm sure they could invent really interesting fights.. But of course, this can't never happen because they can't contractually "control" fan made content even if they work for "free"..
I think the root cause is all the dull units that they are pumping out. Without people wanting to pull, they aren’t making as much money as they used to, so it’s no surprise that their budget was cut resulting in little content. They should throw away their unit templates and try to make fun, unique kits again!
I don’t understand why they can’t just English translate the JP content. I’d much rather end CoW and just have regular content and unit upgrades. Unless there’s a legal aspect of doing that, then just literally merge the properties like WotV. JP is bangin and their banners are always better.
They need to refine pools again, fix the inventory management aspect, and change rewards for re-clears on old stuff if they're not going to make new stuff. I've got enough 3ex Sol, Yoshi, Elena, to keep giving them money for more. If I'm giving money now, I want a new guy, not a 3 year old guy, but they don't want to give more than original nv noctis, even that 11 nv pull we just got didn't even spark an intrigue of possibility, we all knew what it would be.
Ugh... I've really hate anything related to fundamental forces including that title screen. They are NOT the game's main characters. The new unit would either be Rain again or a fundamental forces unit....
I'd let the game die, cause it didn't bring SaGa collab. Back in 5* era. And I think the NV+ era won't have SaGa Frontier collab, probably. Oh, well. Can't let the game live on life support. Let it be free.
And then funding for wotv goes to ever crisis, it's a never ending cycle and wishing it to continue or happen to another title is pretty selfish if you ask me. Plus wotv is 10x better than ffbe.
@@Greatestnesss INcluding that funded it for the first several months. which FFBE was PROMISED its own seperate team that never happened. They split the community. they slowed down teh content to FFBE to prop up WOTV. Hoping WOTV ends isnt selfish. If one game is ending both should end. It makes business sense. As both are failing or will fail. The hopes of transitioning the players from FFBe to WOTV isnt going to work. Of Course FF7 is getting all the attention its the only profitable app that SQE has that they basically control themselves. I think the point SQE is trying to make is GUMI is just bad to work with and not profitable to do so. They have ruined many apps. I think they are trying to end the contract with GumI. We shall see.
Its because FF7 rebirth did poorly. Their DEI censorship killed sales. They listened to people that don't buy their games and this is the result. I knew that FFBE was dead in the water when they said they were cutting back on projects.
FFBE has been getting overpriced and lacking quality for awhile. But it brought in money. I’m not sure how much it cost to keep this game going. I’d at least like to know the end of the story before EoS. I wish we could keep an offline version to preserve our purchases on this game. But I stopped spending last year.
Power creep really killed this great game. Some of the newer trials just got ridiculously stupid compared to the well thought put older and fun trials.
... I hate the Chaos Engine with a regal passion. Mighty guard, Regrowth... It's a slog, if yer' not perfect at everything... one wrong move, misstep or mistake... then those 13% hp ya got it to, turns into 99% almost back-to-back. Have it reapply mighty guard every beginning of turn 3... after a while - I can not tell ya how many times I sat at round 84, deciding "... no, time to re-strategize!". Remove buffs and debuffs, check... reapply buffs, check... healing, revivals check... death immunity check. Damage, not the best, but check, breakers check.
![Reacting to the Producer's Letter & Gumi laying off employees news article [FFBE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LGv-ipSPuoA/mqdefault.jpg)
Link to the producer message: ua-cam.com/video/IydwXcWHPtU/v-deo.html
It's always crazy to me to see a game like this that has so much low effort market value get destroyed through mismanagement. The cost of operation of ffbe is dirt, and when they are doing things right the profit margins are in the millions per month.... HOW do you mess that up so badly you end up with a loss. 30 mins with the files and I could have the game back in its prime. Done it before, could do it again. The recipe for success is right there in the old FUN trials, that are now power crept into irrelevance.
This right here. How do they make so much money and can't afford to keep the game up?! Bad management all around. What did they spend all that profit on?! Sad times for this great game.
I appreciate the fact that Hiroki communicated everything in English. I agree, Sartre, the writing is on the wall and this was the final nail in the coffin. It's sad and I really enjoy the game, but father time has come ringing the death knell for FFBE global.
Day one player. I quit logging in 5 days ago.. Im letting it go. Im done... Yep feeling withdrawals.. Feeling defeated.. But letting it go man. Thanks for all the effort. You are on par with sinzar 8n my opinion. And its kinda like losing some friends.
I appreciate your support these last few years wish you the best H7
Damn I just got back into this game after a couple years off. I really hope the game stays on and hangs in there
It will keep chugging along with minimal content until SQEX finally pulls the plug. My guess is they'll finish translating the Season 4 story, which just finished up on the JP side, and then announce EoS. So probably by the end of this year.
Day one player here. Such greatness coming to an end.
I'm assuming it'll be Wilhelm for the new unit for Anniversary since he was voted on I think last year? As far as everything else, eh the writing was pretty much on the wall for the past couple of months. I do find it amusing that Hiroki basically came out and said that things won't be improving at all any time soon.
Personally I believe we all knew where the game was at. Deep down I truly hope that if end
of service is something that can’t be avoided, the team has the passion for what they have created to go out in a blaze of glory. I don’t care if we see any new units for a time. Spend those resources making this a game again for the last however many months remain. I would rather play then pull👍🇨🇦
The money is in the units, not the content. Can't pay for game development if your revenue from unit investment is garbage. The fact is SE lost 100+ million last year from multiple failed projects and it's probably going to get worse for them because of Rebirth. FFBE has been pushed as far as it can go
this saddens me so much honestly I liked Record Keeper and this one and dying too :(
Even though im not a huge fan of this game, As someone who was a Day 1 playing on a mobile game called “dissidia final fantasy opera omnia” i know how you feel. It recently got shut down in February due to this similar situation. It hurted me alot loved that game best gacha i ever played.
I just got back into the game after a month 😭💔💔💔 such a heartbreak
Fwiw we did get a story event with the release of Hyoh/Panthera ultimus.
True! Forgot about that one. It's crazy how different the everything about the game feels since Hyoh was released. Things felt like they went downhill so fast T-T
I honestly have seen games going through similar and sometimes even worst situations and still survive of course is not easy and it depends a lot on the company but I don’t think it necesarily means eos in this cases is better to just chill and see how things go from here onn
well.... it's been real... 8 years
Been real ffbe had a good run had to end sometime went to fan fiesta in long Beach California met Katy Perry dyer evil laughter etc etc goodbye on to p.s. 5 from here on out
Wonder if someone can keep it alive on a private server somewhere.... would be nice.
Late to the show here but Sartre the only thing I want to see from this game now is an offline version for a single purchase price, or an archive of the story at the very least. FFBE has been struggling to stay afloat for years at this point so it's sensible they'd quietly retire it.
Yeah, I think a lot of ppl are hoping for some type of offline version where we can still just play around with what we've collected for so many years. Who knows what they'll do with it in the end.
I can’t believe it’s ending
I don't get this whole "We lack resources, so we can't provide that level of content we used to"
They literally just have to not cut out content out of the game and everything would be fine, but they go to such lengths to ensure that we get less tha jp did. It's not like they have to prepare update packages, they just have to not take shit away and we're good.
I agree. But it’s probably just gacha greed finally eating its own tail
My suggestions are to cut GLEX units down to one every three months. Frees up a lot of resources and time that they can spend on bringing over JPN content.
Re-run older CoW, adjust the stats a bit for the NV+ era, and change the resists and killers to make it a bit different. Should be easy enough, maybe change the AI if that's not too difficult, but the initial things should be easy to do and again, saves a lot of time/money that can be spent on JPN content.
Do that for awhile, see if things improve, cant hurt anymore than the games current state.
No matter how many times we say we want CoV back, they won't bring it. Instead they focused their limited resources with the fiasco that was CoW another, just to remove after three CoW.
i assume a elena/esther tag unit and the limit burst summons the whole fundamental forces
People used to spend a good deal of money on this game. Where did it go? Production cost compared to where the profits went would be nice to know.
I kinda fell out with this game when CoW started an got convoluted from then on where most units are just for that now when it was fine how it was before that an now it’s on its last legs because loads of people have gone.. afraid to say they went down the wrong road with this sadly
my humble opinion - they made a mistake with CoWA, and we are the ones paying the price. *shrugs ...
@@Chengyuan79 CowA was so bare bone and bad game desgin that its baffling how they didnt come to the conclusion what nonsensical mess they came up with and got past the approval. The aftermath of it just made it irrelevant and cow more convoluted for literally no benefit of the events gameplay experience.
@@yasuk9159 - but but but, look at all the potential sales, i mean, units that can help in CoWA~! /s 😅
I may be in store to be released from all my mobile games at once lol. FFBE, panilla saga, seven knights idle adventures all wearing thin to me. 2 near EoS - 1 just too whale friendly. Crystal knights has been meh too.
Welp, after watch the vid i feel like ffbe still had some future atleast. 2 month playing n i do have fun with it, maybe i will supp them a lil bit when aniv is appear
LETS MAKE FFBE GREAT AGAIN GUYS!!🔥
I admire your spirit :-)
A new player would have loads to do (just without our difficulty from years ago). Enjoy the game if you like. Support them a little, sure.
Just do it with your eyes open, knowing that EoS is in the horizon. Cheers, yah?
Im surprised its still going tbh.
They could have a whole army of game smart players who I'm sure could easily switch over to be game designers.. If Sinzar & company could create cheese strategies for all kinds of complicated trial bosses, I'm sure they could invent really interesting fights.. But of course, this can't never happen because they can't contractually "control" fan made content even if they work for "free"..
EoS? Finally?
I think the root cause is all the dull units that they are pumping out. Without people wanting to pull, they aren’t making as much money as they used to, so it’s no surprise that their budget was cut resulting in little content. They should throw away their unit templates and try to make fun, unique kits again!
Dead Fantasy has become an reality 😭 guess won’t be getting the FF 16
Units 💔
FFBE released some ff16 units.
I don’t understand why they can’t just English translate the JP content. I’d much rather end CoW and just have regular content and unit upgrades. Unless there’s a legal aspect of doing that, then just literally merge the properties like WotV. JP is bangin and their banners are always better.
What do they need a donation to help them out
Let us have the kingdom hearts characters game please-😢
😢😢 support FFBE, please dont let this game die
They need to refine pools again, fix the inventory management aspect, and change rewards for re-clears on old stuff if they're not going to make new stuff. I've got enough 3ex Sol, Yoshi, Elena, to keep giving them money for more. If I'm giving money now, I want a new guy, not a 3 year old guy, but they don't want to give more than original nv noctis, even that 11 nv pull we just got didn't even spark an intrigue of possibility, we all knew what it would be.
Just hire new content creators. Amazing game. Alot of people invested in this game. Don't want to see this game ending.
No one wants to see it end T-T
But it will end. That's just how it is.
These aren't console games, they won't be there forever.
@@superrunnerx1Obviously but we’re talking about longevity
They can’t without the budget to hire someone. And that depends on us whaling, which won’t happen without good units + content.
Sounds like brave frontier all over again they keep doing this
Just copy & paste from jp thats its.. not changed everything or skip everything
Ugh... I've really hate anything related to fundamental forces including that title screen. They are NOT the game's main characters. The new unit would either be Rain again or a fundamental forces unit....
It took them this long to respond to us?........ really?.......
I'd let the game die, cause it didn't bring SaGa collab. Back in 5* era. And I think the NV+ era won't have SaGa Frontier collab, probably.
Oh, well. Can't let the game live on life support. Let it be free.
sadge
Is wotv dying this bad?
FFBE is a business, no support from the fan base no contents !!
So they employee have problem
No team to make content but hey we can still give you a new trash character each week enjoy.
The issue was created when they stole funding and people from FFBE to make and produce WOTV. Hopefully that game is pulled soon as well.
And then funding for wotv goes to ever crisis, it's a never ending cycle and wishing it to continue or happen to another title is pretty selfish if you ask me. Plus wotv is 10x better than ffbe.
@@Greatestnesss lol. FFBE was what created WOTV completely. Nice try.
@@Greatestnesss INcluding that funded it for the first several months. which FFBE was PROMISED its own seperate team that never happened. They split the community. they slowed down teh content to FFBE to prop up WOTV. Hoping WOTV ends isnt selfish. If one game is ending both should end. It makes business sense. As both are failing or will fail. The hopes of transitioning the players from FFBe to WOTV isnt going to work. Of Course FF7 is getting all the attention its the only profitable app that SQE has that they basically control themselves. I think the point SQE is trying to make is GUMI is just bad to work with and not profitable to do so. They have ruined many apps. I think they are trying to end the contract with GumI. We shall see.
WOTV is a good game though. I don't want to see it end.
@SinclairMoon FFBE probably would of seen 10 years globally had they not chose to take assets and funding from FFBE
Its because FF7 rebirth did poorly. Their DEI censorship killed sales. They listened to people that don't buy their games and this is the result. I knew that FFBE was dead in the water when they said they were cutting back on projects.
Explain what dei censorship is
It's not just that, Forspoken for example was a complete flop as well as their venture into NFT dumbness.
FFBE has been getting overpriced and lacking quality for awhile. But it brought in money. I’m not sure how much it cost to keep this game going. I’d at least like to know the end of the story before EoS. I wish we could keep an offline version to preserve our purchases on this game. But I stopped spending last year.
@@vintagegear5240 he has no idea. He just thinks it's cool to blame everything on wokeness.
Power creep really killed this great game. Some of the newer trials just got ridiculously stupid compared to the well thought put older and fun trials.
... I hate the Chaos Engine with a regal passion. Mighty guard, Regrowth... It's a slog, if yer' not perfect at everything... one wrong move, misstep or mistake... then those 13% hp ya got it to, turns into 99% almost back-to-back. Have it reapply mighty guard every beginning of turn 3... after a while - I can not tell ya how many times I sat at round 84, deciding "... no, time to re-strategize!". Remove buffs and debuffs, check... reapply buffs, check... healing, revivals check... death immunity check. Damage, not the best, but check, breakers check.