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Distance running is dangerous
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2022
- Paul explains why he is not a fan of distance running. He talks about the possible side effects of long-term distance running, and how to know if you are overtrained. He also touches on his opinion on hormetic stressors, and the dangers of too much hormetic stress for hormone health.
I would love for you to have David goggins on to hear this 😆 😂
David goggins doesn’t care about health, he care about mental toughness.
His heart once gave out so he asked it if it’s being a bitch today, then asked who’s gonna carry the boats? It got back up real quick
Didn't he had knee surgeries? I wouldn't take that guy seriously.
Love distance running, I also understand the potential downsides. Appreciate the work you do and know that diet is a huge lever for longevity, especially as a runner. 🔥🙏🏽🔥
There is no point to long distance running.
@@dawson0610mind your own business
I run like 5 miles everyday, I feel great, my depression goes away I feel more confident and self esteem.
I love running and it feels great afterwards. My nervous system gets much calmer and my gut functions better. Also clarity of thought.
I think like how the carnivore diet has shown, we really don’t know as much about the human body as we thought. David Goggins is a prime example
Opposite to me.. Turns me into a bitch.. Sprinting turns me into a man
You should interview Jeff Browning about this. 50 years old, crushing ultra events, and his diet is very much inline with you.
What’s interesting is to me it seems to be the same argument that others have with carnivore, running a lot often and eating all meat, make you feel great and you thrive, but might not be the most optimal longevity decisions. I don’t know but at least that came to my mind.
LONG distance running literally means quite extreme distances
Running, say, 5km once a week in addition to weightlifting is probably only good for you
Both are stress for your body. Stress = unhealthy
@@Jachasik Eu-stress
I like the idea of being healthy enough to run short distances. I did my first 5K a few weeks back. 3 miles is a bit much but I enjoyed running/sprinting followed by walking. I feel like that is most akin to hunting as cavemen. Plus, it’ll be nice to be capable of running in case of a disaster scenario. Ya know: skyscrapper coming down at free fall unleashing asbestos, baby mama need child support, or maybe an elephant escapes the zoo.
@@Jachasik Stress can be healthy if it leads to favorable adaptations in the body. Not all stressors are bad, it's really a question of context. For instance, all stressors need some amount of recovery for the body to adapt. The stressor itself isn't the adaptation, it's what happens in response that leads to adaptation.
@@Magnulus76 I don't think that you can call stress "healthy". No matter what kind of stress is always detrimental on your body and ages you. Even in so called body building it is more likely body destroying or stressing but yes you can build some muscles with it. In case of running I can see some many people outside running and I feel sometimes bad about them. Their body screaming to stop doing that.
You can argue that stress is good body singal to stop doing what you do and change your life style or to for example adapt to some poison in environment no matter if it is snake or stress at work with toxic people and so on.
I believed some day in hormesis and beneficial stress but currently I got more experience and in a time being I extinct from my life any stress and became overall happier a d healthier.
Well just do what you want and resonates with you but never be 100% sure of everything and try to stay open minded.
So you were a vegan runner and had issues, no surprise there. However what about running when being animal based? I love running and living my best life right now. Started at 45 in severe metabolic distress and now living my best life animal based at 50!
As long as you balance your exercise out it's probably fine. Keep doing what you love and keep in touch with your doctor.
Consistent endurance exercise is not healthy when you consider it slows our resting metabolism, is hard on joints. You want to run do interval sprints on grass or dirt. Thats healthy running not steady state cardio.
Yes, the main issues are the slowing metabolism due to the body attempting to more efficient with energy over time. And the repetitive physical impact on joints bones brain etc...
@@GregariousAntithesis your metabolism slows down cause your losing weight when you gain weight it goes up it's not bad for your joints it strengthens joints
I’m a vegetarian distance runner and have no issues. I had more issues while I was eating animal meat. I don’t think a specific diet really matters as long as you’re nutrition is balanced, you’re getting enough essential nutrition, and not over training.
Life is dangerous. Don't be a p@$$y. Do what you love. If you love running, do it. If you don't sit on a couch and stay safe. Seriously too much of anything can be bad. Moderation, proper rest and refueling, and fueling for running help a lot. Just because this guy had a bad experience with running doesn't mean everyone will. Know your body, and don't be afraid to live a happy, healthy life because some guy or girl with a podcast is looking for clicks and likes. Anything can be dangerous in this life, but what's most dangerous is fear and people who spread it.
Moderation in all things.....including moderation.....
All just opinions and emotions. You're so shocked that someone says something you've thought was good for a long time to be bad
@@ZEinmishal How is running it bad in anyway? Please explain, and don't use bs things like "oh well uh bad for knees, back, etc". Those myths have been debunked long ago.
@@Bweyg Haven't looked into the joint issue but Just because you say it was debunked doesn't mean anything without actually explaining. I'm against it because our ancestors didn't do it and it causes Atheletes heart, pretty big risk seeing as there is no benefit to it.
@@ZEinmishal Running has no benefit? There has been literal studies to running having increase health and fitness as well as improving poeples mood, energy levels, and they have been sleeping better. I've certainly felt WAY better now than I did when I wasn't really doing a lot. You can google it yourself. Also our ancestor for SURE have done it, I don't know what the heck you are talking about. They certainly didn't WALK to catch their pray XD
I don’t think Dr Saladino is saying to not run ever. He’s just explaining the dangers of distance running based on his personal and professional experience. Everything can be dangerous for you. Educating yourself on the possible dangers will help you to avoid these dangers. Great video!
- Bryce Merriman
The very fact that you need to adapt body to long runs through very long time or special means as you need to adapt muscles to grow bigger after reaching certain threshold shows it's unnatural. Or at least something creating a different balance in body so requires more research into what it does to body long term.
I can bet women to better with long runs! And men with gaining extraordinary mass. There is this in-built specialisation of endurance and explosive high short term effort. Or just my strong intuition
@@szymonbaranowski8184 that’s an interesting way to think of it. Very though provoking and I agree just like gaining large amounts of muscle, it is unnatural to run long distances. Our bodies weren’t built for that or we wouldn’t have to force adaptation
@@Fitnessbybryce I would disagree with this. We are clearly designed for distance running. We can dump heat quickly via lack of hair and the sweating mechanism. I think our hunter ancestors used their better endurance to stalk, harass and wear down large prey animals over time until they were weak enough to be susceptible to direct attack. As mentioned, clearly the human body does need to be conditioned to do this though, and the running probably shouldn't be done on hard surfaces.
@@davepeterschmidt5818 I think we can agree to meet in the middle. You are right about saying our ancestors hunted and stalked the pray. But I don’t think that they were running marathons or training for it. Running isn’t bad for you, but distance running in this context can have negative effects. This is my opinion of course thank you for sharing your opinion with me!
@@Fitnessbybryce Of course they weren't running marathons. And they trained on the job, so to speak. The pursuit I believe they engaged in was done as a group, where some subset of the group would be harassing the prey at all times while others were getting a breather. Then they'd swap roles and continue. This would be an extremely effective technique against an animal they had been able to isolate from the herd, for example, even if that prey was faster than a human for short bursts.
Ran six miles today. It was the best part of my week. Time in the forest. A mental challenge. A good meal after. I enjoy a pretty consistent 13min mile pace. I only4- do distance once a week. I have gone up to 10m but I prefer 4-6.
Try walking. Way better and more natural
Look up dr sean o’mara and his proposed sprinting for visceral fat loss. Interesting stuff…
@@bhok1971does walking increase capillary density and improve VO2 max the same way running does?
@@bhok1971Walk and sprint like an ancient hunter. Make it fun and explorative.
Regular aerobic activity induces eccentric Left ventricular hypertrophy which is a beneficial adaptation. The heart does not work as hard at rest due to the chamber and muscle itself increasing in size and is able to pump blood throughout the body easier. It’s chronic long term stress and unchecked blood pressure that leads to health complications. Outside this overdoing it can be hard on joints and bones but in moderation is actually good for our bones.
Hey thanks for that information - I have left ventricular hypertrophy. My cardiologist never said.
Got any ideas on how to bring presistent high blood pressure down? (Already on beta-blockers and calcium blockers)
less salt if you havent tried already@@thelastgreatdevolutionary1044
Come on dude! Peeing blood from an ultra?! Yes, it happens but for 99% of us that run ultras know how to run with a little bit of common sense. I love your message and follow most of your recommendations, but I can't take this one serious, if you mention peeing blood like it's just a common thing that comes with distance running. I still love your content, but you can't know everything about everything!
Did saying peeing blood was common he said that’s what he did. Almost all marathon runners I know are addicted to running
But he definitely made it sound like it's a common thing with ultra marathons, which is not true. I don't know a whole lot about much but I know running. I have ran many races from 100-200+ miles. I have many friends who run ultra marathons, and do not pee blood. I love the docs message with most things, however I just don't agree with making it seem like it's terrible for you. Just my opinion!
Plus, if he peed blood he did things terribly wrong. That's not an opinion but a fact.
You know that blood in pee isn’t always visible
I’d like to mention, you don’t have to be 20-25lbs under in muscle mass to run distances. I’m a sub 3 marathoner at 205lbs around 10-12% bodyfat. He must not like to put in a lot of work 🤫 his other stuff is amazing and I love it! Love the carnivore diet! It’s taken my performance to a whole new level.
I love long distance running but for the last few years I have averaged only about 15-25 miles weekly. AND I have still been able to run a couple marathons. I weight train, walk/jogs every morning for 15 mins, standup desk, yoga, stretch, hiking. A well rounded active lifestyle is key.
Having had been in the health and fitness and nutrition industries for quite some time, many years ago, based on your comment, you are unequivocally overtraining.
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Cross-training is definitely healthier than pounding too much pavement.
@@Magnulus76 agreed. Not all my miles are pavement. Single track trails in the woods with dirt, rocks and roots. Far more dynamic use of muscles than typical running. I am constantly advising my friends who run with nagging injuries that they need to weight train and get into the woods for some of their running. And on paved stuff, ALWAYS opt for asphalt instead of concrete when available.
@@thezenhodler1620 Resistance training is important for runners, especially as they age. Heck, it's good for everybody as they age.
It was actually noticeable right away that Paul was actually listening until she was done talking rather than interrupting. Great skill to have.
Piers Morgan needs to take a class or two!
The issue has less to do with the activity: distance running, cycling, etc. and more to do with the intensity of the effort over time. The vast majority of people go too hard, too often which is a black hole. You can absolutely enjoy these activities and be spectacularly healthy if you execute at low intensity as measured by HR, HRV, etc.
I'm doing 40 a week but mostly at low hr and don't feel fatigued and feel healthier than I've felt in years. I do think that doing more low hr is key if you love running to help over training...
That's where an app like Runalyze is useful. Keeping the Fitness to Fatigue ratio on the favorable side, for instance, is going to help keep people away from overtraining.
My uneducated opinion on weekly mileage: I suspect weekly mileage up to 40 miles is good for you. After that it might be breaking you down. Extreme mileage like 100 miles per week will make you super fit for distance running, but it's probably not contributing to optimal health. Almost certainly a detriment.
40 per week?? I maybe do 6-12 a week lol
I think even 40 miles is too much - just look at David Goggins - both knees have no cartilage. Fractures all throughout his legs.
This is what distance running leads to.
I do like 12 running and another 12 of walking
Usaf pilot
@@peterb31 David Goggins knees were fucked up when he was in the military, years before he started long-distance running.
@@peterb31David puts in way more than 40 miles per week. When he made the SEALS commercial years back I believe he said 125-150 miles a week was his norm, and that was on top of biking to and from work, swimming, lifting, and oh being a Navy SEAL. He does not represent the average Joe at your local 5K runs.
Distance runners on a good nutrition, lifestyle, and exercise program should be healthy if they enjoy it and if they do it for fun. If you enter the competitive scene like all other sports where you have to push yourself to the limit and even beyond to excel... then whether it’s sprinting, long distance running or any other extreme physical sport then there are possible negative effects. Doing things in moderation is the best for the health but that often times would not mean you would place in those events.😁
I walk elevated steady pace now and it's working better than jogging long distance
Same builds legs not breaks em 😜
I work a desk job and don’t want to be a slob like all the other dudes in my company so thinking I’ll start run/walking. Run a short distance. Walk and catch my breath. Then run again. Short bursts.
I like the idea of being able to cheez-it in the event of an emergency or maybe from my car to the store in the winter.
Dear Dr. Saladino, you haven't spoken about white rice in a while. Is it still possible to thrive with white rice as a part of your animal based diet?
Yes
You will get b1 deficient
@@sealishproductions Got any sources on carbs depleting nutrients? V Interested
@@sealishproductions make rice with nutritional yeast which has a lot of B1
Rice is very high in arsenic , rises blood sugars, debletes B vitamins and is empty of nutrients.
I am one of the many people who adore David Goggins. I've seen him run 300 miles plus in 3 days all at once, and I am curious about what you have to say.
And he did that many times with a hole in heart ..its all mindset
@@Gtt985 But, is it healthy? It is extremely impressive, but is it best for humanity?
I wish I could run like that but my knee and hip and foot are screwed now. I love walking now! Same mental results for me. Less prep and cool down required too.
Every activity can be harmful if you take it too far. Running, lifting, anything...
I recently stopped distance running. I realized there’s really no reason for me to run more than 4-5 miles, especially since I live in Texas and it’s hot as balls. I believe running is the reason I have a resting heart rate of 43. Sometimes it will even go as low as 37. I don’t believe that’s concerning at all. But just an observation. We do always hear stories about sudden cardiac death during races with distance runners though.
4-5 miles is still long distance running, and will still have damaging effects sooner or later.
@@67Stu I simply do it for fun once or twice a week, so I’m not real worried!
As long as your not running 4-5 every day with no rest days it will not hurt you. It’s actually beneficial to our bones to have this form of impact. 3 days a week that distance is very beneficial.
@@67Stu no. If you have the proper recovery, Sleep, nutrition.. And if you don't do it every day
Yeah those aren’t healthy runners those are the runners that just took on running for the majority of cases of sudden cardiac death .. or they are elderly and have other issues .. I run 20 plus milers ( 60 miles ) weekly and my pulse is in the 40s .. I’ve been ultra running for 15 years and I think it’s all about how you recover and eat .. sure runners can die but you can be hit by a bus walking to your mailbox so I’m not giving up running .. it’s not drinking , smoking or drugs ..
Surely, whatever the stress, the more you're exposed to it the more resilient the body becomes? If a couch potato got up and ran 5 miles it'd probably nearly kill them, for someone used to running marathons it would be a nice recovery run! Someone who's always eaten nuts is unlikely to have a nut allergy, bee keepers are unlikely to go into anaphylactic shock when stung by a bee etc. etc.
100 percent. Volume of running or training is all relative. If you look at what kilian jornet does per week- it would kill most men lol but he is perfectly healthy and injury free. You build up greater capacity as u continue to train, obviously there is a limit but honestly the limit is pretty high. also depends on ur other life style habits. just saying endurance running is bad is very silly. Doing too much is bad but doing an amount ur body can handle is great for the body.
I think you should go into more detail about the distance running harms. Because I think running is good for us. At which distances do you feel it’s too heavy? Or speeds? Per week?
He mentions talking particularly people who are running miles upon miles 6-8minute miles. I’m guessing more than an hour at a time. You don’t want to have your body stressing for a large portion of the day. Also if you look at extreme distance runners they all look way aged because of their face skin getting bounced all day
@@trentonmaurer5262 also they are under the sun a lot
Paul Saladino I honestly respect your work and seeking the truth. you say a lot of hard truths that people find hard to swallow but good on you for speaking out about it. Your work will save many.
He has a serious eating disorder and is changing his diet every few months. How can that be helpful to anyone?
@@metalrunner4398 He hasn't changed his diet in quite a long time now actually. I suspect you've been watching his past materials and came across his dietary changes in an accelerated manner so you THINK he changes his diet frequently. His process and approach is a good one (eat what is evolutionarily appropriate) and he is speaking truth. Call it an eating disorder if you like, but it's simply his way of eating. Everyone has one. His is optimized for his desired lifestyle. Personally I've taken the basics of my dietary approach from his and modified it to fit my own body and lifestyle. It's working extremely well for me.
@@metalrunner4398 wdym eating disorder ?
@@sudenmoose obsession with micronutrient adverse effects that are not even proven in mechanistical studies in rodents, changing his diet every few months. First juice fast plant based person, full carnivore, rice cracker nut, rice is poison nut, carbs are evil, fruit is great, honey is amazing, histerical shirtless screaming in supermarket. All that within 3 years. It is a blatant eating disorder. He should be shown to kids in med school.
@@sudenmoose it's funny how not eating shit foods gets called having an eating disorder. eating everything in "moderation" has worked out so well for humans thus far, right?
i appreciate the story paul's followed to get to this point. one extreme to the other, and now has settled in on an omnivorous pattern that seems to have lots of benefits.
I would rather die from ultra running than not run at all personally🤷🏼♀️i dont know what science is behind the idea that long distance running is bad but I feel better than ever while running high mileage.
You reference two extreme options out of a billion in between the two. Also, alcoholics feel better when they have a drink; it's not a great metric for determining the healthiness of many things. Where is the evolutionary need or basis for ultra running? What purpose would it serve for an aboriginal being? Plenty of science to show the damage it does to the human body, long term and short.
I see your point it may not be the best thing for you physically but there are still a-lot of positive affects of it as well (unlike alcoholism) I think for me, the mental toughness and the endurance I gain from Ultra running out weigh the potential physical harms. Significant physical damage is not guaranteed either there of plenty of ultra runners who are in there 60s and crush it. You can’t go through life shying away from any chance of physical pain or harm, unless you want to end up weak. You can’t become stronger either mentally or physically while being comfortable.
@@dutcharnold9058 Fair enough, but no one said anything about "being comfortable." You can put yourself in plenty of uncomfortable situations that carry varying degrees of risk and test mental and physical fortitude that don't carry such a high risk of permanent damage or death SIMPLY BY ENGAGING IN THEM. I like to be smart about the potential risks of the behaviors I choose to engage in. I had to laugh at the "significant physical damage is not guaranteed" statement. That's true for drunk driving, cigarette smoking, and even heroin use. I favor activities where significant physical damage is unlikely. I may not know a ton of people, but those I know who are or have been runners, long or comparatively shorter distance, have knee, ankle, heel, and/or lower back issues. Running (short distances) may have been a part of our evolutionary development but it was done ONLY when deemed necessary (e.g., to escape predators or to catch prey), never on hard pavement, and almost never for long distances/durations. Take a look at apex predators; they don't chase prey for miles. It's a sprint, and either they win or they lose. So, whether you're predator or prey, neither engage in long distance runs. And no aboriginal people existing today run long distances because it makes them feel better. But, obviously it's your choice, so have at it if that's what you enjoy and best of luck to you.
Yeah, running on concrete is bad for joints.
I do like 15 second sprints haha
What about Zach Bitter? He's a world record-breaking ultramarathon runner, and he's a carnivore, and appears to be in great health.
You can’t see his heart.
I think that if he is honest it isn't optimal for his health. He is willing to make the tradeoffs now since he can make a living off of it. He we certainly is sarcopenic, a strong breeze can knock him over. He also is not 100 % carnivore. I doubt he will be doing 100 milers in ten years.
actually Zach Bitter does Carnivore on and off throughout the year.
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 I bet your wrong I have a ton of friends that have been doing 100 miles for years and years and are well into their 50/60/70s .. you cannot speak for every person
Sample size of 1 is proof of nothing. And his story isn't over yet, is it?
My African ancestors used to run and outpace lions to eat it. I think I’m fine
I think the benefits of distance running far outweigh the risks. Same can be said with any exercise regimen.
I run per week around 90-100 miles. I'm 34. In shape. Happy. I weight train. I dont have bad knees or joints. Take my cod liver oil (daily for around 15 years, very dense shin bones never in pain) and very important stretch after long runs. I had bad knees back when I was in Army when I was 23 because I didnt understand how to train effectively and reduce injuries but older I get the smarter and the fitter I get. Worst thing thats happen to me is bursitis in my knees other than that....Nothing.
Check back in 2034
To change the subject, when I eat grass fed, grass finished beef, I get sick, the other day I got a lump in my stomach. Regular beef does not do that to me.
Did she say carnivorous vegetables 😂😂 7:00
1st and last time I'll ever take advice from this fool. Just because someone wears a whitecoat, doesn't mean everything they preach is true. This guy is no expert. Common sense tells us that moderation is key. If you lift too much too, you're not going to live very long and/or be healthy either. Where's your bit on that?
5K is a perfect distance, you can do that everyday in 30 minutes
Great video doc. This shit once confused me about my physique goals, thank you for the information!
Also it's very catabolic, if you want to be a good long distance runner you can say goodbye to your muscle mass. Running is ok and cardio is also important, but running for very long distances on a regular basis is not healthy at all
Well paul theres are multiple centanaruiuans who are vegans who are long distance marathon runners
Some of this I disagree with but I appreciate the discussion around “moderation is key” and that stress, to a point, makes us stronger (especially at a cellular level)
this is just a FYI for the regular/average/normal person. You probably should be more active and run more. He is talking about hyper athletes who do marathons/triathalons regularly. DONT let this title of the video make you stop doing cardio. Go run a few miles!
You benefit more from running sprints, really. You get aerobic and anaerobic benefits and train your body to recover quickly. It's also more fun. :)
@@catherineshaw1122 You only get the aerobic benefits if you do a lot of slow easy runs, if you just do sprints and nothing else, you'll hit the wall with your running fitness and you won't progess aside from the 100m and 200m.
Paul you surf for 3 hours a day, and that's before resistance training. This daily volume can easily be considered "overtraining" depending on the individual, because it will always be relative to the individual. You enjoy surfing so you're biased for it.
Still that’s Not really anything compared to distance running 6 minutes miles though bud
I ran 8 miles this morning and felt great!
If you’re running in athletic shoes and on concrete that is not natural.
@@dianavaldez3371 Yeah you're probably right. But so is lifting, sprinting, jump roping and skipping.
People are getting too crazy on the internet. Nothing but a bunch of losers running their mouth about nonsense in an effort to make money. Losers. LOSERS.
WTF does Saladino mean he was “under muscled”? Five percent body fat for men and a BMI of 19 is considered normal if people are healthy. He is a complete POS.
@@dianavaldez3371You know what else isn’t natural? Tampons, eyeshadow, mascara, lipstick, fake nails, fake lashes.
@@russellgrimes3491 fax
Sprinting + middle distance (~1 mile at a time) have always been more fun for me anyway! Happy to hear this news :)
If you go the track It can be fun yes
Local high school near me their track has the lights on at night great place to run 400s
@@taylorg8509 I was a 400m runner back in high school 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲
Dr.Saladino: Don't overrun
David Goggins has entered the chat!
Ask dave about his knees in a few years..lol
What about contraindications of the patients prior to taking up running. These could be genetic predispositions as opposed to running actually causing atrial fibrillations. Is that a stretch?
i don't think running marathons every week is good but marathon training and several a year can make you feel like superman.. also this dude actively seeks evidence to back his biases all the time..
It’s crazy. I LOVE walking and I do love sprinting but I absolutely hate jogging.
What about cycling?
I'm so happy that Danica has been red-pilled and has taken control of her health. That's so great. I'm so happy for her, especially, but also for the rest of us, because she'll make an amazing evangelist.
You don't know her. Worry about people in your own life.
@@JK-vc7ie You don't know her, worry about people in your own life
@@thestuff4321 Gravity Denier... Like your name? FE? ;)
@@JK-vc7ie Project much? You're barking at strangers for their imagined problems. Bless your heart.
@@ElizabethMillerTX Nonetheless, he/she is right.
I used to run. But now I do walking 3 hrs ( whatever pace I want) + 1 hr walking with stairs everyday
I now enjoy these walks as my exercise.
Walking is low impact and my ancestor (great grandfather) lived that long beyond 100 yrs old. But walked all the time, flat or elevated lands. Not running.
My blood pressure is lower now after a month of my routine (100/70)
As always the dose makes the poison, having a well developed aerobic system is very important to performance and overall longevity in life
Poisoning yourself with low doses is unhealthy. Btw your "aerobic" system will not get better because you cant just isolate aerobic or anaerobic metabolism. Your body will be better in that specyfic movement/exercise.
@@Jachasik lol, well that empirically not true. Go right now and take long distance runners resting heart rate than do the same to a moderate exercise individual. Yes running won’t make you an Olympic rower but any cardio consistency will strengthen your aerobic system as well.
Yes but if you're weight training you are getting aerobic and anaerobic exercise, so cardio can be as simple as short runs or better yet, running sprints.
@@catherineshaw1122 Finally someone who knows that. Have a great day/night
@@Jachasik you as well!
This dude looks extremely healthy just that alone should speak for itself idk how you can argue what he says
Reminds me of when he was on the doctor's and some fat chick was bashing him. Like bruh, do u not see his body? Why would I listen to a fat pig over a lean sex machine?
so you are just going to believe everything he says based on how he looks
@@aidenblackburn9806 uh.... are you suggesting you'd rather take fitness advice from a fat slob over this fine male specimen? You do you. I hear being fat has its perks. You get to enjoy unnatural foods like pizza and ice cream. You also get to lose your limbs and eye sight to diabetes in your 40s and 50s. Good stuff!
@@aidenblackburn9806 nope, just saying the proof is in the pudding
The some of these comments have increased my cortisol levels!
This should be common sense to people. Torturing yourself for extended periods of time is bad for your health.
Exacly. But most of the even keto/carni people are so brainwashed about the exercise. Not only endurance training, resistance training is stress for your body too. But after second one that stimulus will make your muscles bigger, stronger...
That made me laugh because I have always thought that runners look really grim when I pass them. I walk and bike because they make me smile.
@@Jachasik
Yeah a lot of keto people seem to think working out “hardcore” will be good for your health. In my opinion though just doing a few exercises once a week can build a good amount of muscle and give you all the health benefits. Pushing it too hard always results in injury
@@TerriblePerfection
Yeah i mean if youre enjoying it then thats no issue, i lift weights a few times a week and enjoy it
Its the people who say things like: “i worked out so hard i through up! Hell yeah” that i really dont understand.
We have to look at runners like Haile Gebrselassie who ran at a very young age high mileage, 25-year career in which he claimed two Olympic gold medals, eight World Championship victories and set 27 world records. Where his knees or joints worn out? Even when he was about to retire he could still run fast, so i think paul just killed himself not because of running to much but because of not knowing how to do a good training, also he said he was vegan we he did ultras(WAY TO MUCH)....
You offer a sample size of 1 as proof of the safety of something? 🤔
"Where his knees..."???
My dad was an amazing runner and he has AFib and had a stroke while running. He now can’t run and is so depressed. I agree unfortunately it is an addiction.
How would you isolate the problem of running from all the other lifestyle variables such as diet ? I run 2x/wk around 5 k , trails and road , but also condition with other activities as well . Variety I suppose is good
I love the car analogy for the body, eating junk is like putting shitty gas and running is like driving recklessly. How long do you think your car is going to last if you do both?
What about the Rarámuri or Tarahumara?
What would be the limit, how much km represent distance running? For example if you run like 5km 3x a week is it still bad for your heart.
Check Raramuri Tribes in Mexico. They are the best, literally, distancie Runners of the entre World.
Absolutely too much stress from long distance running is cumulative, I also have done triathlons/ ultras and have experimented with diet I noticed with raw vegan/fruitarian my nervous system was clearer recovered faster but hard to put on weight /muscle but I could do 100 pull-ups in 15 minutes.. strange observations like this that make me think there is something to the fruit salad camp I just don’t think it’s as nutrient dense as you have mentioned with the carnivore observation for example I would need to eat 3kg of salad and fruit a day and 90% of it is water where as I saw your diet is like 12oz ribeye for a meal- less volume more nutrient density
I’m not here to oppose you btw I think what your doing is great - life’s a big experiment and we got the chemistry set 😋 you diet is a long jump from the status quo
Interesting, what diet are you on now? Any recommendations for someone trying to gain weight who runs a lot and weight lifts. Thanks
Endurance related. Like meat and muscle gaining. IMHO
@@burger101ful I’d recommend everyone start raw vegan/fruitarian for 4-8 weeks for the simple reconnecting, because after only fruits and salads with no chemical preservatives E numbers etc allows you to feel what loads your body..
Adding muscle I have only stepped out as far as adding sprouted and steamed grains such as buckwheat and lentils but around this time I also started supplementing saw palmetto so I don’t know what caused the muscle building affect the extra grain or the DHT blocking affects of SP
I’m accepting the fact that my experience and point of view is somewhat obtuse to the audience 😅 but follow my idea for 4 weeks minimum and your body will revolt when you eat absolutely anything with chemicals, it will slug when you eat salt or sugary foods, you will get a headache when you eat too much dehydrated foods (below 90% water)
Like I said I don’t think the nutrient density is there in raw to be a mass gainer but for endurance (5k up) raw is untouchable and I have reached 4% body fat and 90% muscle according to boditrax
@@nbakes24 what do you mean when you mention “reconnecting”? Thank you 🙏
@@jewelsbarbie reconnecting to the body, chemicals, salt, oil, processed foods etc are a heavy digestive burden… the idea is to live this way for short term so you can feel how much digestion cost say for something seemingly harmless
Especially if you got the shot. You might be limited to walking for the rest of your life.
Vaxxed sheep 🐑
Why’s that? My wife was forced and is more active than ever
I got three shots and I’m the healthiest I’ve ever been in a long time
@@burger101ful you got three shots and you’re a stoopid sheep 🐑
WHAT A LOAD OF ANTISCIENCE GARBAGE.....THERE IS NOTHING HARMFUL ABOUT VACCINES...INTERNET NUT
I wonder what people like Zach Bitter and Cam Hanes say about this?
Zach Bitter does Carnivore on and off throughout the year
David Goggins, Cameron Haynes, and a long long list of super healthy people long distance run to the extreme! And they are just fine according to their doctors anyway....... Can you explain how they are in such amazing shape? And they are ripped up and muscular so Im confused.
Goggins is most definitely not in good shape on the inside...he doesn't recommend to people what he does. He's a beast still but yeah
I would have to slightly disagree with Paul on this one. It depends entirely on how you run.
I run 10 miles per day (70 miles per week), and have been doing so for the last several years. I've also been a runner for the last 30 years. I am 47 years old now. I have always known that running can be harmful to your heart because I have seen studies that found scarring of heart tissue in elite long distance runners and highly dedicated marathon runners. So my strategy has always been to run slowly and consistently, and to avoid highly intense workouts. Everyday, I run at a slow, slow pace... a pace that feels slow to me. Slow pace depends on your level of running fitness. How slow? The pace must be so slow that it feels like walking. So basically, I "walk" 10 miles everyday at my slow running pace.
Surprisingly, even at such a slow pace, your running fitness improves over time, and you become a faster runner. This happens automatically. Why? Because over time, your body will grow new blood vessels, grow new mitochondria, and have a more forcefully strong heart muscle. Your ligaments will also become stronger and your muscles more flexible. Improvements in running speed happen automatically -- yes, even when you run at a very slow pace everyday. The key is consistency. Plus, you must avoid seed oils and processed sugars in your diet. So you can improve as a runner, even when running very slow everyday.
Most runners run too fast. They run at a pace that is much too fast for their level of running fitness. During their run, their bodies generate too much lactic acid. Lactic acid is bad for you. It damages your muscles. This is why most runners end up running only a few times per week, instead of all seven days per week.
In the running world, there is actually a popular training method called "The Maffetone Method" for improving your running speed and performance. The strategy is to run at a specific target heart rate everyday -- not too fast, and not too slow -- which results in an easy, slow running pace overall. The target heart rate is a function of your age and other factors. This training method is being used by competitive runners to improve their running speeds and finishing race times over the long term.
Last year, I had a cardiac MRI done at a hospital. It was a complete, comprehensive MRI that took about 30 minutes to perform. No detail was left unchecked. I passed that test with flying colors. They found absolutely nothing wrong with my heart, even after all those years of long distance running at 10 miles per day. The secret is in the slow running pace. It must feel slow to you, at your current level of running fitness.
Someday, I do hope to run in marathons, but in the back of my mind, I will always be cautious about running too fast in the marathons because I don't want to damage my heart. To me, running is more than just exercise. It is a competitive sport and a lifelong passion.
I run a fair amount too. I guess we all need to surf everyday and move to Costa Rica 😂
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Good info but any reason why you run daily?
Agree, as long as you eat right and get stronger by running everyday and good quality sleep it will be beneficial. Look at kenyans runners like Eliud kipchoge , Haile Gebrselassie who ran at a very young age high mileage, he set 27 world records and even when he was about to retire he could still run very fast.
I stumbled across one of your videos, and subscribed by the way. you were going through what you have for breakfast the meat fruit honey , and animal organs. What I’m trying to figure out is what is your daily intake lunch dinner. Weekly. If you have a video going over something more extensive can you direct me to it? Or create a video that explains daily or weekly diet? Thanks!
Just qualified for the Boston marathon. This is cap
Which is why even the most high mileage elites run most of their miles slow and relaxed. Training should be about learning to run relaxed. Most runners intuitively think the opposite and drink lots of coffee and get revved up and tense up and it is tough to relax and recover when your body is literally constantly high on cortisol. Now add that with anemia and electrolyte nutritional deficiencies no wonder you slow accumulate cardiac diseases.
Well life is dangerous. So no one should ever live, right ?
You can’t opt out of life, but you can opt out of running
@@Barn80 Some people would argue that you can opt out of life. But I get your point. I'll keep running, alongside doing strength training and practicing martial arts. I am not interested in distance running but I'd say if it's your thing and if you recover enough from your sessions to get stronger and fitter, go for it!
Don't run just lay in the sun without sunscreen eating balls and drinking milk straight from a cows nipple. Also, don't use deodorant or enjoy a adult beverage. What a fun life, not!!
@@Enjoytheinbetween So true.
@@Enjoytheinbetween Depends what your definition of fun is. For me working out and not having hangovers is more fun and a better way of life
What about heart rate variability compared to baseline as a measure of overtraining/recoveredness?
Great Info Dr!!
I’m trying to understand why you have this obsession with what our ancestors did? I don’t necessarily agree that we should do everything that they did. We as humans have evolved and are not living in the same conditions.
long distance Walking and sprinting is better than Jogging and long distance running. sprinters always look healthier than marathon runners who tend to look weak.
Distance is relative.
I run 40 minutes usually. I think I am safe😂
The guy who ran from the battle of Marathon to Athens to give news of the Greek victory subsequently proceeded to drop dead of heart failure....
Is cycling as bad for the heart ❤️ as long distance running? I ride 150/200 plus miles a week, most in moderate pace and some high intensity with little zone 1/2 work? Which I know I need to ride more in, I know it’s a lot less stress on my joints but I’m wondering about the heart, my dad says I’m going to get some type of cancer from releasing too many stress hormones…
Interesting thoughts on this thanks a lot
All the lazy people in the comments are rejoicing saying "see, I told you so!" as they proceed to binge watch the 5th season of whatever show they like, lol.
There's a big difference between too much physical stress on the body, and no physical stress at all 😂
What about intense cardio above 35 years old like soccer?
That getting knocked over though...
Could you talk about PCOS? I would like to hear your opinion on it. I'm taking Dim and sometimes inositol they say I have insulin resistant but your saying insulin is good
Thank you! 🌞
He is lying, he did not see lots of distance runners coming into ER with cardiac issues, maybe one. Also, he is over trained, no one had overly muscular frame 5000 years ago, they did not go to the gym.
This has been an interesting topic in the emerging cardiology literature.
Dr James Okeefe is one of the leading authorities on this phenomenon. Interesting lectures on UA-cam.
It makes sense. The heart is not designed to withstand sustained exertion, particularly the right side of the heart which is fairly low pressure.
The heart is not a bicep. Cardiac muscle cells don’t divide and hypertrophy. All that happens when you tear and damage cardiac muscle is it just seems to scar. Scar doesn’t contract well. It doesn’t conduct electrical impulses well.
We really can’t make the heart “stronger” through exercise. The heart doesn’t have a PR or a one rep max. It’s just designed to beat. That’s it. Where true “fitness” and heart health probably live is in efficiency of that beating. Lowering blood pressure. Being less heavy. Less mass and tissue to perfuse. Decreasing the DEMAND on the heart as it functions in this beating.
We are seeing runners develop arrhythmias and heart failure as they age. It’s fascinating how the paradigm of running may actually be the OPPOSITE of what we’ve always believed. I mean, who would’ve ever questioned running as being unhealthy?
Not uncommon to hear about endurance athletes dropping dead during races. Autopsies have revealed significant myocardial fibrosis.
I’ve always wondered if maybe this phenomenon is what killed Jim Fixx.
I actually met Jim and had him sign his book for me. He literally died a few weeks after I met him. He had heart disease.
@@Divisiononebasketball Along a similar line is Bob Harper from The Biggest Loser, who basically DIED at the gym back in 2017.
The rhetoric with him, like Jim Fixx, is that he had a “genetic predisposition”.
Nobody will ever admit that maybe his plant based diet wasn’t as healthy as everyone gives it credit for…
I mean, for god sake’s, he put out a book post heart attack called the super carb diet. Details how to eat what he describes as super carbs. Typical BS rhetoric: low fat, high fiber yada yada yada
@@keywestfan2503 I didn’t know that Bob was plant based. I essentially follow the Blue Zones way of eating. I’m a big time carnivore but now I eat once a day most days and I use meat to flavor my foods instead of making it the primary part of my plate.
@@Divisiononebasketball I don’t think he is now. He describes Mediterranean type diet now. Fish, chicken, veggies etc. But from what I gather, he was vegetarian for many years prior to his heart attack.
But according to him, it’s because of a genetic increase in LP(a) that caused his heart attack…
Not because his LP(a) was increased as a marker of him oxidizing his LDL. No one will ever acknowledge that as a possibility.
Interestingly, some data seem to suggest higher LP (a) levels in plant based eaters.
@@keywestfan2503 Wow that’s fascinating. Thanks for the info.
1:49 Is the creepy toe curl some kind of great ape mating availability signal?
I would like to see you interview Sally Norton, if I may make a request;)
Wim Hof breathing and ice baths, bullshit or not?
There's plenty of good research on cold therapy, mindfulness and meditation. All good things. However Wim's claims are probably a bit exaggerated
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Thanks for making this video. Great guest- very good chat and info.
YES- running is not good for heart or joints. Marathons are fun but not worth the risk. Like riding my motorcycle, it very much became a really fun social thing. I will still job a couple of miles and do some 5k's and hike but that's about it. Everything in moderation- I don't over due it. I also do resistance training and eat well- Keto.
BS. Show me one, just one study that shows running is bad on your joints. You can't because it's not true. There are studies however that show running is actually good for the joints. "Running bad for your joints" myth went out in the 1970's. Get with modern times and modern studies.
@@ultrarnr4454 I take it you are a runner. Maybe you are right. I do not know for a fact, I just assumed it to be true. Anyone else care to comment?
Still, it is not good for your heart long term- some jogging, like 5k's should be fine and it's better than sitting on a couch for sure. When I run, my knee does hurt- but probably due to all my years of skiing with less than perfect technique. I just went out West and ran up mountains with a guy who runs sub 5 minute miles and trains marathon runners. My BP heart rate was 140 (I am old- but he is too)- his was 80. He left me in his dust...passed me coming down from the summit when I was still ascending. Regarding joints, the next day I was ok but he was icing his knee (daily.)
Again, you may be right and I respect your experience and knowledge. The discipline it takes to be an Ultra guy or gal is impressive. Still, I am on the fence with it. I think if you over do anything, it's not ideal. I can only go by my own experience.
“Running is not good for your heart.”
Paul is smart but for the love of god quit sucking him off
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Amazing video. I respectfully disagree with the short distance stuff. DOC S mentioned the Haza tribe. However, who usually wins the marathons? ( I don't care if this is polically correct)... It's the Africans! Common sense would tell me that early man would have to potentially run fast long distances. They hunted with "sharpened sticks", throwing multiple "sticks" into these large animals. Chasing them for vast distances, waiting for these animals to bleed out. Its hard enough to drop these large animals with high powered rifle/compound bow and arrows. Little alone " sharpened sticks."
Humans can walk down anything because of how our sweat system works. There is no need to run after the animal. Eventually it will simply give up
I could not agree less.
I will stick to my 12 minute a mile for 3 miles a day.
Very good information. Makes so much sense. When I had chronic illness I got sick with flue like symptoms from working out. Same with being in the sun, or having a heated discussion. It is important to be in tune with what your body says. Not to push your limits too much. Being able to take a step back. That's my experience. And this goes for everyone, but we all have different limits of course. So a little workout can be too much for some and very hard workout ok for other. Imo, this limit can expand (or the bucket become bigger or whatever), but with small steps, and being careful not pushing yourself much.
Carniferous” vegetables (7:00)? I think she meant cruciferous.
Extremely long running ?? What is Extremely long ??
so...5km twice a week is .... bad?
Those of you who think ultra running is bad look at cam hanes David goggins Courtney dauwalter Zach bitters they all run at least a half marathon a day goggins ran 7000 miles one year
Well, there's actually study that shows that BMI is actually best indicator of health, not fat percent. So being over weight by being well muscled is probably not more healthy than healthy BMI. Looks better though. Some runners are under weight, that's probably not healthy either.
Hazda are not only persistence hunting people. There are distance running persistence hunters. Ultra running is probably quite modern and kind of extreme version of distance running. By definition, long-distance running, or endurance running, is a form of continuous running over distances of at least 3 km. If you go to extremes, everything can be unhealthy. There are plenty of benefits on distance running.
All low carb/high fat dieters must bash LD running because big majority of their followers have short term health benefits related to weight loss but they have no stamina. Exeptions exist. Some people do well. There are carnivore ultra runners but most people will lack stamina.
Waist to height ratio better than bmi