Moondrop's BEST over ear headphone - Cosmo Review

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  • @HobbyTalk
    @HobbyTalk Місяць тому +140

    Moondrop Wanda coming soon… (this joke is for a select few)

    • @530pm
      @530pm Місяць тому +3

      I wish it were true

    • @icicle1029
      @icicle1029 Місяць тому +13

      Moondrop Timmy right after

    • @HobbyTalk
      @HobbyTalk Місяць тому +9

      The name is Fairly Odd…

    • @gabrielwillis9078
      @gabrielwillis9078 Місяць тому +9

      Oh yes only a select few people know of the hidden gem animation known as "Fairly Odd Parents" it's pretty niche, definitely not a primetime show on one of the biggest TV channels

    • @LIL-MAN_theOG
      @LIL-MAN_theOG Місяць тому +1

      @@icicle1029 nah son...its gonna be the 'Ghost Up' next

  • @humanbass
    @humanbass Місяць тому +36

    That is one smooth graph for a planar.

    • @barrymckockiner8737
      @barrymckockiner8737 Місяць тому +5

      It's as good as the LCD 5. With EQ these should be endgame.

    • @DaBigBoo_
      @DaBigBoo_ Місяць тому +3

      Youre everywhere on headphone videos o.o

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator Місяць тому

      @@barrymckockiner8737 Imagine saying a graph is "good" literally what are you talking about? Listen to yourself. You FR target junkies are nuts

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator Місяць тому +7

      It's probably smooth because it's smoothed. That's how smoothing tends to work, when you smooth things...

    • @x-techgaming
      @x-techgaming Місяць тому

      ​@@barrymckockiner8737LCD-3 & 4z > LCD-5

  • @fatdoi003
    @fatdoi003 Місяць тому +14

    thanks Andrew, Cosmo reviews are seriously hard to come by as literally no one reviewed it.......

  • @ItsXev
    @ItsXev Місяць тому +19

    That pad swap system looks fantastic.

  • @1fareast14
    @1fareast14 Місяць тому +33

    I'm in agreement about bass eq easy, treble eq hard. Resolve should try for an eq based ranking list sometime

    • @ziokalco
      @ziokalco Місяць тому +1

      Agree. One of the main factors I care about when buying a headphone is how easy to eq they seems to be

    • @NebulaShadow_
      @NebulaShadow_ Місяць тому +1

      I literally came to the most recently posted Headphones Show video to post exactly this idea. Resolve, DMS, Goldensound, Joshua Valour, (possibly Crinacle but highly doubt he will with his new endeavors) and anyone else knowledgeable on the subject. I'm a big fan of EQ and would love to see a tierlist of the subjective sound experience when "dialed in" with EQ since some drivers have great potential but wonky tuning. Thanks!

    • @Mr.Manson
      @Mr.Manson Місяць тому

      Audeze would at the top.

  • @onepieceatatime
    @onepieceatatime Місяць тому +11

    I would like to sincerely thank Resolve for touting the virtues of EQ over many videos. I finally took the EQ plunge (using the Qudelix 5K) and just the community presets have - in my opinion - added at least $1000 in value to my modest but decent headphone collection (HD600, Sundara, AKG K371, Modhouse Argon). My guess is with the Cosmo plus EQ you'd be wasting money buying anything more expensive.

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 Місяць тому +2

      yeah some of those presets are fantastic, they opened up my kph40 and gave them some really satisfying bass. a $40 headphone now sounds like a $200 headphone.

    • @mindsight1
      @mindsight1 Місяць тому +3

      oratory1990 is a legend

  • @occasionalart7597
    @occasionalart7597 Місяць тому +7

    For a long time we've heard of V shaped headphones, it's about time we get an A shaped headphone.
    All jokes aside this looks really interesting, especially as an EQ/Detailhead who is very sensitive to treble, I was previously looking at getting an Arya Stealth and EQ-ing down the treble, but now I might be looking into getting one of these at some point and simply EQ-ing up the bass (although I do enjoy a lot of bass every once in a while so I'm unsure how much bass EQ these could handle)

    • @DaBigBoo_
      @DaBigBoo_ Місяць тому

      grado is kind of a shaped but angled towards the high end

  • @Izou96
    @Izou96 3 дні тому

    Man moondrop have come so far, they plan for the upcoming electrostatic earspeaker
    I remember when they only make earbud flathead, the mx1n then the vx lineup, now its headphone

  • @AJ99401080
    @AJ99401080 Місяць тому

    According to the description this headphone sounds like Grado Rs1x to me. Absolutely love it, a stellar headphone!

  • @TheAudioNomad
    @TheAudioNomad Місяць тому

    Great review! Thanks for addressing the headband size thing. It seems to be a problem with a few other brands I’ve tried as well.

  • @_chiaki_nanami_
    @_chiaki_nanami_ Місяць тому +3

    Superbly clean planar version of the HD600 with actual imaging and soundstage?

  • @renomoto
    @renomoto Місяць тому +10

    I own these headphones. These are great, but try putting Moondrop Para's stock pads, its a much better pads for it. With that pad I can use it all day.
    Also keep it dry as much as possible, avoid sweaty situations as the paint peels so easily. I've had these for less than 6 months and I already have its paint peeling
    With that said, I read from forums that Amps does change the sound signature a bit. I really want your opinion on that part, since I don't have a lot of Amps to test it out.

    • @ZandoNoid
      @ZandoNoid Місяць тому +1

      They also graph incredibly well with the para pads.

    • @thisrocks
      @thisrocks Місяць тому

      How did you buy the stock para pads? I can only find the “upgrade” version

    • @j_505
      @j_505 Місяць тому

      @@thisrocks I also have the Cosmo with Para pads. I had to email ShenzhenAudio to get the pads special ordered because I wasn’t going to buy a Para just for the pads. Took about 8 or 9 days to come.

    • @kamasu4222
      @kamasu4222 22 дні тому

      Any peeling with the para?

  • @haomingli6175
    @haomingli6175 Місяць тому +1

    it looks like the impact of pads on headphones is truly insane, more so than eartips on iems.

  • @pigmanny
    @pigmanny Місяць тому +19

    Can I grate parmesan with these?

  • @advancegeo2986
    @advancegeo2986 Місяць тому +2

    I think these are very cool I just wish moondrop would experiment a bit more with form factor the last few releases have been a bit samey compared to their IEM segment where they make drastic changes across the board with alot of their models

  • @arthurhaywood2184
    @arthurhaywood2184 Місяць тому

    They had the prototype at CanJam NYC this year and a lot of people missed it because they were low key unofficially there at another table. The rep didn’t seem to be very fluent in English and there was no official name or price yet.
    The prototype was in black and sounded pretty good. I had them on my short list of products to watch out for but became less enthusiastic once the price was announced and they weren’t available in black.

  • @circattle
    @circattle 22 дні тому

    There are so many things about this headphone that makes me think it is a tribute to the Quad ERA-1

  • @gadgetgenerationspulkit
    @gadgetgenerationspulkit Місяць тому

    Man I have been eyeing this one. I used to own the Venus and I think Cosmo will be a good setup up.

  • @eruilluvitar
    @eruilluvitar Місяць тому +3

    I never would've guessed that you'd like a headphone with a 6k dip!

    • @listener-reviews
      @listener-reviews Місяць тому +2

      This guy Resolves

    • @DaBigBoo_
      @DaBigBoo_ Місяць тому

      6k peaks are the worst thing to hear imo

    • @eruilluvitar
      @eruilluvitar Місяць тому

      @@DaBigBoo_ @ResolveReviews would very likely agree hahaha

  • @Sintrania
    @Sintrania Місяць тому

    From the measurements this looks like Sundara with warmer treble with a little different in 1khz region. From my experience this is probably an enjoyable listening experience.

  • @mindsight1
    @mindsight1 Місяць тому +3

    Someone with a lot of hair likes the larger headbands. Most of the time I'm limited to iems.

  • @RNeeko
    @RNeeko Місяць тому +1

    The lack of weirdness in the treble and ease of EQ is quite intriguing. Would it be possible to turn the headband clips upside down to slightly reduce the height and would this be a viable solution?

  • @hungngngng
    @hungngngng Місяць тому +4

    Me dailying pre-2021 LCD-X: 550g doesn't sound that bad 🤔

  • @juanblanco7898
    @juanblanco7898 Місяць тому +2

    FiiO FT1 review from Andrew please

  • @Parallax1024
    @Parallax1024 Місяць тому +1

    Solution to the headband, fiio ft1 headband/capraaudio head strap mod 😅

  • @coldogno7
    @coldogno7 10 днів тому

    yeah yeah..but does it as good as sundrop sunshine?
    thats the question

  • @tradehut2782
    @tradehut2782 Місяць тому +1

    So it is a headphone version of Blessing 3?

  • @TheSimChannel
    @TheSimChannel Місяць тому +2

    Hey Andrew! Here's my wishlist for this review (things that you didn't talk about): (1) Technicalities like sound stage, imaging, dynamics, (2) How it fares with different styles of music. Everyone knows you like Jazz but how do you like it for electronic music or rock, etc.? (3) How does it compare to similarly priced headphones? Would you prefer it over a Clear (Mg), Arya Stealth, LCD-X, etc.? (4) Have you tried to replicate this FR on other headphones using EQ? Do you like it there?
    At this price it isn't gonna be an "oh I'll just gobble one up next chance I get" headphone like the FT1, and it can be very difficult to find in shops -- Moondrop isn't exactly Sennheiser. So you saying it sounds really good doesn't quite cut it for me. IIRC you also liked the Sundara and Susvara, so where about does it land? Is it a good value for money, in your opinion? Would you buy it for yourself?

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews Місяць тому +4

      Hey, thanks for the feedback. I mainly want to move away from using the traditional language categories surrounding 'technicalities', because they mean different things to different people, given they're ultimately just descriptions of the subjective experience. I still mention it if there's something noteworthy to talk about, but what I really want to move away from is parsing a headphone by the audiophile categories I feel are somewhat erroneous to begin with. Like I talked a lot about detail and texture in this review particularly to do with certain instrument and vocal tones, because that's the standout quality to MY experience. But I feel we collectively need to move away from the traditional method of reviewing things based around specific categories of 'technicalities'.
      As for other music, I feel this headphone would benefit from a bass shelf for electronic music, and but it is palatable for tracks that'd otherwise be more fatiguing, given the relaxed ear gain. How does it compare to the HiFiMANs? It's quite different, and like I mentioned it's less like the HiFiMAN presentation and more like the Focal open back sound signature, with that forward midrange character. I was close to saying the Cosmo is my favorite sounding headphone below $1k, but I do prefer more bass than it has. But it's quite close to that, and for me it's easy enough to add a bass shelf. Would I buy it for myself? No, because I prioritize comfort and it's a bit heavy for me.

    • @TheSimChannel
      @TheSimChannel Місяць тому +1

      @@ResolveReviews Thanks for the long reply! I see where you're coming from regarding the technicalities, although I think I have a slightly different stance. I believe you're closer to oratory's side of the spectrum, i.e., "headphones are minimum phase systems and thus are fully described by their FR" and that therefore even things like sound stage are ultimately FR-based psychoacoustic effects.
      I'd love to have a chat about that but I'm living in Europe and Socal is too expensive to visit at this point. Maybe Munich/Vienna some time (although still kinda far).
      If you get a chance, maybe you can address this point:
      If sound stage is just an FR-based effect, how come different headphones with matched FR will still show clear differences in sound stage?
      (Background: I did that test. Several headphones EQ'd to the same exact FR (within reason, think 20 filters +5 or so for channel matching). Granted, matched on EARS and not my head, but confirmed to be very similar in tonality by ear. And granted, still with minor remaining differences in the treble, but smaller or similar differences than FR variation from different sittings (seatings?).)
      I will soon have the opportunity to test Arya Stealth vs. Organic with matched FR, and in that case at least the acoustic impedance shouldnt make using EARS for the matching an "invalid approach".
      Anyway, would love to get your take on this!

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews Місяць тому +2

      @@TheSimChannel Oh, yeah that's a fairly common kind of example. The only way to actually determine if the FR is the same is to measure at the ear drum. No measurement fixture is measuring at YOUR ear drum, and of course the EARS doesn't have remotely close to accurate acoustic impedance to even get a ballpark sense of the in situ difference between two headphones. So simply put, you may be able to EQ two headphones identically on a rig, and they may even sound similar. But they are guaranteed to still measure differently at your ear drum, and fine-grained features are less likely to be identified in perception of the spectral balance.
      Second, HpTF is a massive variable in all of this. We talk about this a lot because it's key to understanding where our position comes from, but effectively headphones behave differently on different heads, and depending on the design of the headphone (and it's acoustic impedance), the behaviour can vary in different ways.
      Even the best case scenario - that being the HD 800 S - the behaviour changes from head to head. And what you're seeing when looking at a graph is just the behaviour on one 'head'.
      So the bottom line is that even if general tonality can be perceptually similar for wideband, that doesn't mean it actually is equivalent FR at the ear drum, and how the FR features relate to a listener's HRTF can have a meaningful impact on the experience.
      Lastly, there are also all kinds of psychoacoustic effects that are influential in the subjective experience that prime is for things like 'spaciousness', such as how acoustically open the headphone is. And even if we're aware of those effects, they can still be influential.

    • @TheSimChannel
      @TheSimChannel Місяць тому +1

      @@ResolveReviews And thanks again! So to summarize your point; due to the effects of acoustic impedance even headphones that measure the same on the rig are likely to measure differently on a person's head, especially when the rig is the EARS. And by extension, if the FR is *actually* identical measured at my eardrums, the psychoacoustic effect of spaciousness / sound stage should be identical between the two.
      However, if we take the Arya Stealth vs. Organics, which are, for all I know, basically the same headphone except for the driver, we should expect that the acoustic impedance between the two on one and the same rig should be close to identical, no? Sure, the FR on the EARS has nothing to do with the FR on my head, but if the acoustic impedance of two headphones is the same, then matching their FR is more like comparing the left and right channel of the same headphone (please grant me that the EARS can at least do that). And that (Organic vs. Stealth) is a test I can soon make.
      I'm also open to getting a pair of in-ear microphones, if the cost is somewhat reasonable. Still have to look into that whole topic though.

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews Місяць тому +3

      @@TheSimChannel The acoustic Z may be similar between those two, but the FR won't be because the drivers are different, especially for a more modal headphone like that. So you're going to end up having differences in the FR at high frequency always. It's kind of like what Oratory says all the time on this, in theory if the FR at the ear drum is the same between two headphones, then they should sound the same, but it's impossible for two headphones to have the same FR at the ear drum. So no two headphones will ever sound exactly the same.
      In-ear mics may be helpful in getting closer, but that's just for blocked canal data. I recommend checking the 'Pirate' in-ear mic spec.

  • @normativesymbiosis3242
    @normativesymbiosis3242 Місяць тому +1

    While I like the overall design, I just hate that bent metal part of the headband connecting to cups, same with their Para. I'm guessing they were going for 'minimalistic' but it just looks cheap

  • @TC-bz8sm
    @TC-bz8sm Місяць тому +2

    How is th soundstage size compared to hifiman ?

  • @chillstep4life
    @chillstep4life Місяць тому +2

    How does this compare to the Aune AR5000?

    • @Mishael_Agyei-Boamah
      @Mishael_Agyei-Boamah 22 дні тому

      Out the Box the AR5000 is more neutral and will have more slam and rumble

  • @balllovewow
    @balllovewow 28 днів тому

    In soundstage term, How wide they are ? like some those HFM egg shape or somethings ?

  • @notfencer641
    @notfencer641 Місяць тому

    I found the stock pads very uncomfortable for my giant head. I swapped ZMF Caldera Lambskin Ultra Perf pads on these and they’re perfect for me. I had to trim a little bit of the edge off the pad but not a big deal.

  • @naren.freak1c
    @naren.freak1c Місяць тому +5

    Have you tried it with para pads? Graphs like LCD 5 with para pads

  • @pk.002
    @pk.002 Місяць тому

    I'd like to try these as I already have the Moondrop Para and Venus which I love. $900 is too prohibitive of a price point though, and I don't mind waiting for a price drop.

    • @dreamstormPL
      @dreamstormPL 24 дні тому

      I tried them all and on stock pads Venus are the best for me. Para is much worse than Cosmo and Venus in my opinion. I tried Cosmo with Para pads but comfort was unacceptable. My ears were touching this metal mesh and there was very little space for ears comparing to stock pads.

  • @Jordonater
    @Jordonater Місяць тому

    The treble quality of this headphone looks smoother than pretty much anything else which is probably why it sounds so detailed. Shame they didnt up the fit and finish from the para and that suspension strap will have worn out in less than 2 years not good for this price.

  • @mattialemboluscari8774
    @mattialemboluscari8774 Місяць тому

    Do you think this is substancially better than the AR5000?

  • @bhanuverma4278
    @bhanuverma4278 Місяць тому +1

    please can u do a review of simgot ea300...........

  • @anthixious
    @anthixious Місяць тому +1

    Do the Tungsten pads fit? 👀

  • @gigifara9312
    @gigifara9312 Місяць тому +1

    i love the aesthetic

  • @ncf1
    @ncf1 Місяць тому

    Its just that I don't know if I want a couple of manhole covers over my ears. I might get complaints.

  • @hesher.
    @hesher. Місяць тому +1

    You don't need 110 dB in your headphones 12:38, so you don't need an amplifier. 110 dB volume is dangerous for your hearing, 85 is the maximum for long listening.

    • @TheHEADPHONEShow
      @TheHEADPHONEShow  Місяць тому +1

      Yes. But even if you listen at an average of that volume, the peak will be quite a bit higher. Still not 110dB, but I think it's fine to consider that, especially if you want to do something like adding a bass boost.

  • @shaami8622
    @shaami8622 Місяць тому

    The way the graph was normalized it seems like the bass roll off very early. Only after you showed the raw measurement that the bass looks linear.

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews Місяць тому +1

      That's because the HRTF is more than just information above 1khz. People don't realize this but the low frequency information is still the bottom part of the transfer function.

  • @lukasjanecka9996
    @lukasjanecka9996 Місяць тому

    As someone with a smaller head, finding quality headphones is a struggle. They are almost always either too heavy or big or loose or a combination of the above...

  • @JB-ol3xo
    @JB-ol3xo Місяць тому

    Kind of dissapointed at how large these are... I would absolutely buy them but I just don't think they would fit for my not huge head.

  • @Nephilim-81
    @Nephilim-81 Місяць тому

    You know I wonder if that pad swapping magnetic disc system is what creates the bass presentation being quite small. It maybe the seal. Audeze and DCA use glue or adhesive for a reason.

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews Місяць тому +1

      It's unlikely because you'd then incur the driver Fs, and you'd see that in the response. Magnetic > Adhesive

    • @Nephilim-81
      @Nephilim-81 Місяць тому

      @@ResolveReviewswell noted. That does make sense. Thank you for your reply, my friend. I’ve experienced driver flex once in IEM mainly because I was using the wrong tips at the time, so I can definitely understand your point. 🤓

  • @dahmuttdog2910
    @dahmuttdog2910 12 днів тому

    really miffed they made the venus with the one of the absolute best openback designs and then never brought it back

  • @Cooliewhistles
    @Cooliewhistles Місяць тому +3

    If they weren’t so cold and cheap looking , I might give it a try

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator Місяць тому +2

      They prolly look cheap cuz they're cheap! Cheap to build anyway. Not cheap for you, nonono...

  • @s6za755
    @s6za755 Місяць тому

    How can I use one on my phone?

  • @davids2214
    @davids2214 Місяць тому

    Frequency response is kinda similar to some Stax as well (009s, x9000)

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator Місяць тому

      if they sound remotely similar to any Stax in the history of ever I will shred my degree certificate, sell everything and buy XM5s

    • @davids2214
      @davids2214 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisStoneinatorhaha yeah fair enough-I’d be very curious to hear them and see

  • @EduardBolerovich
    @EduardBolerovich Місяць тому

    VS hifiman? Edition xs ?

  • @robertlucskai
    @robertlucskai Місяць тому

    Pad rolling solves it. The Para pads are way better or the Brainvawz xl hybrid…

  • @Dududumdudu
    @Dududumdudu Місяць тому

    But does it waifu? y no box? crinacle waifu 4 raifu!. Also I love the industrial design on the cosmo on the para and some other moondrop products (at least on the looks) looks like something from the 70's.

  • @Gavanater7
    @Gavanater7 Місяць тому

    It looks like it probably sounds like the moondrop chaconne

  • @goodgos1844
    @goodgos1844 18 годин тому

    You forget the most importan :Comparations vs he1000st he1000se etccc; what level it have?

  • @SireEvalish
    @SireEvalish Місяць тому +3

    GENERAL KENOBI

  • @OblivionIce
    @OblivionIce Місяць тому

    Looks like a FR similar to a Celestee, but this has less bass.

  • @joshcarpenter400
    @joshcarpenter400 Місяць тому +1

    Fr kinda looks live avantone planar

  • @goodgos1844
    @goodgos1844 17 годин тому

    Your review seems very incomplete to me; you leave us in the air; We don't know what level it is vs what other overs? How can we buy a hearing aid like this without having references; the reviews must have comparisons otherwise we don't know anything; I have heard wonders about in ears of 20 dollars as I have also heard the same thing in 50, 100, 500, 1000, 50,000, etc.

  • @KmtS9
    @KmtS9 Місяць тому

    Now we just need them to deliver this at the $200 price point!

  • @gmlgml780
    @gmlgml780 Місяць тому

    Yeah.
    1000 USD
    is not my
    league.
    But I have
    already
    everything
    anyways.

  • @andibrema
    @andibrema Місяць тому +1

    G̷e̸n̴e̴r̴a̷l̸ ̵K̷e̶n̷o̸b̸i̶

  • @RF-INF
    @RF-INF Місяць тому

    9:26 Chrono ahahahahaha

  • @NotOrdinaryInGames
    @NotOrdinaryInGames Місяць тому

    Dude...... your dome is normal.

  • @GadZookz
    @GadZookz Місяць тому

    I saw Billy Joel Jr. at Trader Vick’s and he was wearwolfing these headphones, EQueeeeeeeew!!! Earwoolves of London… Draw earwax…

  • @jameshsu2558
    @jameshsu2558 Місяць тому

    first!

  • @airun5362
    @airun5362 24 дні тому

    Best for not the best price? Also same unpractical base, 0 work on it. You cant rotate cups normally, still heavy as fk. Measurments not even not great, but super weird.

  • @LIL-MAN_theOG
    @LIL-MAN_theOG Місяць тому

    so....basically Moondrop is taking the same headphone form factor and renaming it every few months? What's next? The Moondrop Greator?

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator Місяць тому

      Obsolescence and consumerism ad nauseum. I'm not sure why smartphone culture emerging in the HiFi hobby is being celebrated, but then I'm not the kind of guy who buys HiFi gear on Amazon fecking Prime Day without having heard it, so I'm probably not the target market.

    • @blackcum2275
      @blackcum2275 Місяць тому +1

      Not really, if you can read FR graphs every Moondrop headphones sound pretty different from each other.
      I get that information fatigue is a valid issue for all of us, but it's still great when a headphone brings something new to the table that hasn't been done before. Which, in the case of the Cosmo, seems to be a planar with a good mid range and tamer treble reminiscent of MM-500/LCD-5 kind of tuning but at a lower price.

  • @benedu3450
    @benedu3450 Місяць тому +3

    1 view in 1 minute
    bro fell off so hard

  • @BingBong-vw6ks
    @BingBong-vw6ks 13 днів тому

    Hey. Im interested in some good headphones but most, if not all headphones in the high end use leather. Are there any good sounding cans that also happens to be vegan??? 🐮🤍