Did Deadpool and Wolverine ruin Logan's ending?
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
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Deadpool fanboys in the comments 💀
@@SheevTalks Imagine defending what the Deadpool character stands for. 💀
@@SheevTalks Dude your not helping your case because it feels like in the video your not that informed in the subject of the multiverse. Like Deadpool 3 could not exist but a lot of the problem you brought up would still be there. Like Logan being part of days of the future past regardless of what the director says. Or Logan kind of ruining the ending of days of future past. So I struggle to be like “Yeah Logan was ruined” when the higher x men franchise was ruined by Logan it’s like complaining about a retcon being retconned
@@SheevTalks I am not a Deadpool fanboy I am just pointing out “Uh if you love Logan despite what it did to the x men franchise then why be mad about Deadpool for doing the exact same thing”
*Makes a video directly attacking a Deadpool product*
"Oh no, Deadpool Fanboys are in my comment section!!"
Deadpool fans can't handle someone criticising their sacred cow.
"How Deadpool and Wolverine stole my skin and let my lifeless corpse crumble into nothing"
How Deadpool and Wolverine beat me with a sketeton dug up from a grave
"How Deadpool and Wolverine killed my dog and stole my wife"
How da fim deadpool and wolverine killed me wife and took me bloody son
15:36 - "The proximity to the bullet is slowly killing him."
Brother, what? He explicitly states that the adamantium in his bones has been slowly poisoning him and has finally caught up to him.
Not even just the adamantium poisoning either but also the fact that the food was tampered with to get rid of and suppress mutant genes making Logan more susceptible to the poisoning
I like much of Sheev’s content but he is like the Michael Jordan of nitpickers getting nitpicks wrong.
@@brucardi that raises the question of why other mutants still had their powers then, or how the mutant kids were supposed to keep theirs upon leaving for eden and living outside of the control of the doctor responsible
@@CinnamonBob as for the kids, since they were technically artificially created, they were probably created to withstand the effects of the food since Essex was trying to create mutants they could control but ultimately failed which is why they went the cloning route with X-24. As for other mutants who were around before the events of Logan there’s no explanation I can find for them.
@CinnamonBob the mutant kids most likely didn't eat for days on end until they reached Genosha or whatever that place was.
Honestly the TVA as a concept tends to either ruin stories plot wise or theme wise. I’m so sick of them.
This goat speaks my language 👍🏽
Almost as if the idea to introduce written fate in your universe undermines all the stakes
Not for me.
@@Mortimer_RSYeah, especially when you're trying to retcon older movies into this shitty universe
Yep, It's by far the worst part of D&W.
There's like 3 main error with it and it's number 1.
TVA
Destroying logan+Year continuity
Paradox Dumbass plan.
15:36 Wolverine's skeleton is covered in Adamantium and it has been slowly poisoning him him for decades. The problem seen in Logan is his healing factor cant keep up with the posioning anymore and it's causing him to suffer health problems and "age". So he keeps an Adamantium bullet because its the only thing that can penetrate his skull if he ever gets so low and finally pulls the trigger. It's also a symbol for one of the last few things he has control over in his life as well.
wasn't it the corn syrup drink that was poisoning him?
Rice did say it was directly responsible for no more mutants being born
I don’t think it’s that, more like the additives in all of the food that has been killing mutants
@@Cornholio174 Adamantium Poisoning has been a thing in the comics for over couple decades. When the X-Men lost their powers it nearly kills Wolverine due to him due to losing his healing factor.
@Cornholio174 it's both. The additives weakened his healing factor, which then couldn't keep up with the adamantium poisoning
How did he get the bullet? Why would the bullet kill him when the last adamantium bullet in X-men Origins: Wolverine only gave him amnesia?
"Ironic shitposting is still shitposting" The Movie, The Franchise.
15:36 The adamantium bullet isn’t what stoped Logan’s regenerative powers, it was the food and water supply’s being drugged to kill all mutants by the government. I don’t understand how you think Logan being near the bullet is killing him when his literal bones are fussed with the same material
Is that the reason? I thought it was just the adamantium was starting to poison him over time and he was just slowly dying because of it
@@alosim1541 it’s been a while since I last watch Logan but if I remember correctly in the film it’s either said or implied that the food and water supplies were being tampered with to suppress the mutant genes by the government so they could create artificial mutants they could control, I think it was corn syrup or something else to do with corn
@@TypicalGreeny I’ll have to rewatch it but I don’t deny that could be the reason. I just haven’t seen it in a while
@@alosim1541 I also remember the adamantium poisoning. But tbf, it could be a combination of that and many other things hes been thru the past decades, lol
6:10 to be fair that's actually what happened in the comics.
When Kitty went back in time to prevent Senator Kelly's assassination and end the Days of Future's Past timeline, all it did was create a branch where DOFP specifically didn’t occur.
But DOFP lived on. One of its characters (Rachel Summers) even migrated over to the main timeline.
Marvel's multiverse has been bullshit for a long time lmao.
Well will people realize that writers have their own ways of time travel?
Yeah, I wanted it to go away after Loki season 2. I thought that was the point of the ending lol
To be fair despite how messy it can be at least we have a simple set of rules in place.
If you change the future: Your universe will branch off.
If you bring your past self to the future: As long as they get their memory wiped of the event or never learn anything they shouldn’t. It’s still your past self and not an alternate version of your past self
I will be honest, for dofp I love that movie but it has so many issues and this is coming from someone who hates the fox xmen films other then first class along with dead pool films and the wolverine movies.
Media should get better over time not get worse.
a think the anchor point thing is more like an allegory to how marvel droped the x-men timeline when wolverine died
also deadpool digging up logan and saying thats not how regenerative abilities work are just a joke on how fans said the same thing when logan came out. wolverine shouldnt be able to die but the writers can do anything.
Allegories are suppoused to be a theme in the subtext, NOT A WORLD BREAKING PLOT-HOLE
@@RogueCoup Yeah
@@ArcTrooperRod-269this.
@@ArcTrooperRod-269it’s not a world breaking plot hole. Marvel has had poor to no consistent in universe rules for several decades. You can’t make an assertion without proof, such as claiming an allegory can’t also have story issues.
@@zzodysseuszz"you can't make an assertion without proof" the proof is literally in the video you're commenting under. You have to be a troll.
I don’t think Deadpool 3 ruined Logan unless you want to argue Logan ruined days of future past because Logan the film did that by existing in the same universe that is established multiple times
Finally, someone said it!
They always went back and forth on whether Logan took place in New timeline. The director contradicted himself two times on it
He addressed that point. Logan was always in a separate continuity from rest of X-Men franchise.
@@ManiacMayhem7256 The Chad “Logan is a good stand alone movie and nothing can change that” vs the virgin “umm the director stated in an interview something contradictory about the timeline so now the movie is ruined and unenjoyable 🤓”
@@donovan4222
Blame the director and Fox Marvel for not being able to make up their minds, not me for simply stating what the director said. I myself am the "chad" here since I treat Logan as a standalone via headcanoning D&W as never happening. Simple as. It's a good film and nothing can change that, not even a bad multiverse movie
Yes D&W ruins Logan's ending, but that was a foregone conclusion from the moment they decided to bring Hugh Jackman into the movie at all. I kind of like that they decided to go ham and desecrate his corpse and stuff rather than pussyfoot around it.
@@overlooting2195 can’t argue with that mentality
Not at all, they could've put the Wolverine variant in it, and leave Logan's continuity alone
@Jose-se9pu and why would deadpool as a character in any media leave it alone
@@Jose-se9puIs that not exactly what they did?
@@donovan4222 no... watch the video... They dug up Logan's corpse, scattered his remains and the X Laura left there, and then made him the most important person in his entire timeline, which then deteriorates upon his death. Nobody forced the writers to do any of that. Logan (2017) is now much worse off because of it.
"Logan didn't actually save anyone" - That is objectively wrong. His universe doesn't end until thousands of years later, so he still saved all those kids, and by extension; the mutant race. The kids did get to grow up free and happy, and everyone except for Laura (before she gets saved in this movie) got to live full lives.
I agree that’s hyperbole but a thousand years isn’t even a milisecond in the lifespan of a universe, and means countless generations will die in part due to Logan’s death. Just a strange thing to add on to that sacrifice.
So he didn't save Laura, the person who he did all of that for. Great.
@@Сайтамен Yes, he did. She didn't die, she just got put into the void years later but then gets restored and not only gets to live free and happy, but also gets to live in a world with a Logan.
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 i mean try to understand where he is coming from, Logans Death is the direct reasoning for her pruning, and if not for Dead Pool she would have spent the rest of her days in the trash world, or died soon.. it still takes a bit from his sacrifice, sure it doesn't erase it completely.
But yeah it's kind of a lesser version of what Disney did to Anakin/Vader, they made it so that he isn't the actual person who stops Palpatine for good, only for a while, if the pruning wasn't due to his own death then i wouldn't have that much of a problem with it, but since it is then yeah, it's kinda like he didn't really save her at all, only gave her extra time for somebody else to save her, like Anakin giving time for (can't belive i am saying this) Reylo to end Palpatine and bring ''Balance''... Yuck..
@@ShimmyFr Wade stopped that universe from dying in this film though, and that universe is saved by the help of another Wolverine, who only got involved with the story because Logan was the anchor-being, and who got inspired to save said universe by the Laura that Logan saved. If anything, that makes Logan's sacrifice even greater, because: 1. If someone else (who didn't save Laura) was the anchor-being, then that universe would not have been saved in this movie. 2. Wade and Wolverine didn't just save Logan's universe, but ALL universes, since they stopped Cassandra Nova from using the time ripper.
That's how I view it at least.
I think this film is too meta about just saying "When central actor leaves - the franchise dies", and asking serious lore-questions about anker-beings is like asking poet for physical explanation behind his metaphors with cheese....
yes but shouldn't a good Poet be able to craft there art so that it works in the metaphorical as well as in the logical.
Is it actually spelled anker-beings or did you misspell anchor? I haven't watched the movie so I genuinely do not know.
Exactly!
@@dimitriig Isnt that kinda the point of deadpools character?
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo the whole concept of Green Goblin is murdering Spider-Man & everyone he cares, does he be allowed to do that in a main-continuity
I think they could have made the whole "anchor being" thing work with some minimal dialogue tweaks. Instead of just saying "the universe lost its anchor being" (which as you point out makes it sound like the universe only exists while that person lives) they could have had some lines like "...your universes anchor being died, prematurely." (Here you could make it a bit of joke, easy enough) And "he was supposed to pass the mantle to the next anchor being" (that being X23, giving the TVA a reason to pluck her out of the universe but then she fought back so they had to prune her. There you go now there's a reason for the different times to get her) and could start off with a little spiel about "Each universe exists with a continuation of anchor beings, one to the next to the next. It's our job to ensure the safe transition from one to another" (giving a little more depth to the TVA as an organization that clearly represents studios)
Your idea makes sense, instead of an individual it's a line of succession.
Although, you have to wonder how the universe sustained itself before the birth of the 1st anchor being 🤔😅
@@Zygomatic_Bolt see you can wonder that, but also it's one of those "the answer is in the question" situations. The universe came into being with the first anchor being. Boom
@@butcherpete2286 so like a celestial or something
@@Zygomatic_Bolt definitely could have been. I mean it's a comic book movie it could also be like the first mutant
@@Zygomatic_Bolt It could be something like universes only start to diverge when people exist to make decisions, or the Celestials existing as ancient beings
One of the first lines in the movie was like “How are we gonna bring Wolverine back without respecting Logan’s ending?” Ends with something like “we’re not”.
“Deadpool & Wolverine threw my bag full of Flash figurines into a metal shredder”
@@WildCharger “Deadpool and Wolverine dug my skeleton and used it as a weapon”
I’m usually not a “turn your brain off and just enjoy things bro” kind of guy…but god damn I just can’t imagine caring this much about trying to make sense of marvels multiverse/time travel logic and getting all the timelines from 40 different unrelated properties right. I really feel none of this affects my experience of the movie at all…but to each their own.
I like it when i am able to think deeply about the stuff I'm watching and it still making sense. Which is why the mcu has been super disappointing to me ever since they introduced the multiverse stuff.
It doesn't hurt anyone when a movie/tv show is both enjoyable and holds up to scrutiny.
@@christopherlorance1320OK but sheev takes this shit way too far. Not to mention how much on twitter he wastes his time arguing about Cape shit or star wars shit. Like I get debating people but it gets to a point I look at it and go, what's even the point ? Its embarrassing.
@@christopherlorance1320 I’m not against thinking deeply or reflecting on the movie at all, but there is a big difference between critique and just nitpicking things that don’t matter like cinema sins. Everyone prioritizes what they want from a movie differently, I just think Sheev may not prioritize the same things I care about in a movie.
For example, he starts talking about the MCU time travel rules and “why didn’t Deadpool do this” and even starts applying the time travel rules to fox X men movies that aren’t even part of the marvel universe….meanwhile Marvel basically admitted to the audience all the way back in avengers endgame that their time travel rules are contradictory and don’t make much sense. They are mostly used as a storytelling device, just like most comic time travel and multiverse stories, they don’t hold up to logical scrutiny.
So we’ve kind of moved past this fact already, I don’t really like the way marvel plays fast and loose with time travel/multiverse rules either, but it’s already been done. So spending so much time trying to analyze the rules 5 years after endgame feels like a waste of time and it s not what I (or probably most people) care about in terms of getting entertainment value out of the story.
@@christopherlorance1320 Hey I like doing that shit too but if youre walking into a marvel movie about deadpool and wolverine just strap in for the themepark ride at that point. Go just cuz its fun and you want to see some characters do some shit. Deadpool literally goes "get your special socks out nerds" right before him and wolverine decide to fight for literally no fucking reason other than that theyre angry and they want to.
Watch everything everywhere all at once is a much better film.
Why can’t Deadpool 3 just be a continuation of his adventures with all his friends from Deadpool and Deadpool 2, but just add Wolverine? Where’s Colossus, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Cable, Russell, Dopinder, Domino, and Yukio? Deadpool 2 ends with a good setup for their next adventure (Deadpool finding a family among a bunch of misfits and possibly mentoring Russell) and all those characters were fun to watch. The time travel mechanics (Cable’s time traveling device) in the franchise was pretty tight and controlled before they start merging it with MCU’s TVA.
Deadpool films should have stayed in its own separate continuity along with Dark Phoenix and New mutants.
This movie is not Deadpool 3
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 ok so I may NOT be crazy I remember reading somewhere that if this did well Deadpool was gonna fold into the MCU after secret wars and an emphasis being made that this wasn’t Deadpool 3
@@tomiadedeji53 that seems like the logical path. But we are talking about Disney and Marvel who can’t seem to get out of their own way.
Epic flop after epic flop + the definition of Insanity. You’d think they’d throw all their virtue signaling and trying to change the world shit out the window after a Billion and a half Dollar W. But nah, I’m sure they’ll just run back Secret Invasion Season 2. Cuz if at first, 2nd or 3rd, you don’t succeed…. 🤷🏻♂️
It's ok, because Deadpool jokes about people not liking Cable.
The anchor being thing apparently is a self-aware wink to the fact that franchises die after the main character end. Kinda like how Avengers started to dive after Iron Man's death.
that doesn't matter, the concept is still incredibly stupid especially as it is taken literally in the movie and makes it so the Universe deteriorates and eventually dies.. and for the obvious reason mentioned in the video, the concept makes no sense at all and has no consistensy to it, and yeah ruining the logic and immersion of the franchise for a ''meta joke'' is so god damn annoying and frustrating to deal with, like was it worth it?
@@NiklasMJIf you’re looking for an immersive movie that isn’t 4th wall breaking and is meant to be taken seriously, why would you buy a ticket to any Deadpool movie? Lmao
That's fine for the purpose of a meta narrative device it's just the mechanics of how it works in application are confusing. Even for a meta narrative movie like this its still be confusing in its application. Probably why it isn't elaborated on they were aware anchor beings in universe don't make any sense as is and trying to explain it would just make things worse.
@@donovan4222 4th wall breaking doesn't mean that there can't be immersion into the universe and the story.. like what are you talking about? so you didn't immerse yourself in the slightest in the first 2 movies because he talked to the camera or talked about real life events and actors a couple of times?? why even watch the movie if u can't enjoy it then? Lmao
@@NiklasMJ Yeah in the first 2 movies never once did I think “oh no the character of juggernaut is ruined because he’s completely different in Deadpool 2 than x men. Now I can’t enjoy the movie” lol
Logan > Deadpool & Wolverine
Joker > Joker: Folie a Deux
I’m seeing a pattern. Ruining original films with follow ups that tear them down and make them pointless to ever have liked in first place. I hate modern Hollywood.
dude, it’s a Deadpool movie, this is like doing a serious critique of a Garfield strip lmao
😂
Imagine having a parody of Logan ruin Logan for you
I disagree, I think D&W makes Logan's sacrifice even greater, because that universe [Logan-1/Laura's universe] is saved by the help of another Logan [Logan-2], who only got involved with the story because Logan-1 was the anchor-being, and who got inspired to save said universe by the Laura that Logan-1 saved. If someone else (who didn't save Laura) was the anchor-being, then that universe would not have been saved in this movie. And Logan-2 doesn't just save Logan-1's universe, but ALL universes, since he stopped Cassandra Nova from using the time ripper to destroy every universe.
Also, the disturbing of Logan’s grave is reverted when the TVA restores Laura's universe at the end of the movie. You can definitely still take issue with it happening in the film, but at least it was undone.
A possible explanation for why Wade doesn't go back earlier and save Logan from dying is because that would mean he doesn't become the Anchor-being, since Paradox says that Logan "died in an act of self-sacrifice that sent ripples down the timeline", which sounds like the movie telling us that Logan didn't become the Anchor-being until he sacrificed himself to save the kids.
And if it isn't Logan saving the kids that makes him the Anchor-being, then it's not his sacrifice that dooms his universe, but his death, which makes it even more wrong to say that this movie ruined Logan's sacrifice, since he was already dying due to adamantium poisoning, meaning that his world was going to die anyway, with or without his sacrifice.
Remember when not every comic book movie needed to be connected in some elaborate, overwrought manner? Good times.
I mean, seriously. Just let stand-alone movies be stand-alone movies. Studios need to stop trying to tie every little thing together
Loki and the TVA have had worse consequences for the MCU than Captain Marvel or Endgame did.
Endgame basically admitted to the audience 5 years ago that their time travel rules are not going to hold up to logical scrutiny and it’s being used as a storytelling device. So I just don’t get why people are still trying to analyze the rules 5 years later, especially in a meta comedy movie like Deadpool. Do people still care about this stuff?
@@donovan4222 If that's the case, why go though all the effort to try to make sense with it using the TVA and such anyway? What's the point of putting that much thought into the mechanics if it's just "a plot device? If it's going to be put that lightly, just say the magic bullshit fairy just comes around now and again and causes it rather than putting thought that is going to be held under scrutiny.
@@motherplayer They didn’t go through much effort though, they just used the TVA as a plot device to bring multiverse/time travel into the Deadpool movie. And I think the way they did it was pretty entertaining and funny with Deadpool talking to Jon Favreau to try and be an avenger, then having him steal the time travel device and meeting a bunch of Logan variants.
Marvels time travel/multiverse rules were already broken, they didn’t make sense when they first introduced them either…we all know it’s a plot device for them to do crossovers with other characters/properties…I’ve already moved past that fact and am mostly just looking to be entertained by how the characters interact.
They lied to us. They ruined Logan.
They could have had a need for Wolverine, but “oh no, he died in Logan.”
Then they must find a Logan from a different timeline, possibly one where he went off on his own, and throughout the film he learns how much damage he has caused by not being there and taking up his own responsibility. We could meet an X-23 who ended up becoming a weapon and wasnt saved by Logan but then also get a glimpse of the X-23 we know and show Logan, “look how much you impact the people around you.”
This would similarly parallel with ‘Shane,’ as Logan tried to go off on his own, but realizes he cant just give up if there is nobody else. I will admit this may be too similar to his arc in Logan, but its technically a different character, and this could reinforce that character growth and show that across all timelines he struggles with this but is deep down a good person.
Similarly, this is sort of a meta-commentary on the way Hugh Jackman left the character, but eventually came back for a final appearance due to his love for the fans and the character.
In this version, Deadpool and this new version of Wolverine get glimpses of the Logan timeline, a timeline where Logan made the right decision, as well as a glimpse as the timeline where Logan fully left his life.
This way, they can look at these timelines with reverence or to learn from their mistakes, but not touch or affect them
Your entire problem stems from the fact that you treat the movie like a standard MCU film. The Deadpool movies have NEVER made canonical sense, even when they were made by FOX. Collosus is suddenly Russian in the first Deadpool movie, the 80s versions of the main XMEN make a cameo in Deadpool 2 despite it being set in the 2020s, during the end credits scene, Deadpool uses the time machine to jump into XMEN Origins Wolverine, a movie that isnt EVEN IN HIS CANON. The list goes on
The deadpool movies have always been satirical, inconsequential meta movies that make fun of the main franchise. Youre completely right that we'll probably never hear about the Anchor beings again, its was just a meta joke about franchises losing their lead star.
Take a look at SHE-HULK. Theres another 4th wall breaking character who, in the final epsode, literally stops the plot, breaks into the writers room, and rewrites the ending. Are you going to make a long video about how that ruins the MCU? These types of characters dont matter, you aren't meant to waste time and energy making them make sense.
Going back to your problem with ruining Logan, its a fucking multiverse. The entire premise of the concept is that there are infinite versions of everything. So relax, your precious Logan remains untouched somewhere out there in the Multiverse. Thats why writers love the concept of the multiverse, they can have their cake and eat it too.
The multiverse idea has been overused and abused tho. We can’t argue that. Like I love D&W but the multiverse stuff wasn’t handled the best.
exactly in deadpool 2 deadpool says how wolverine died and has a prop of logan being impaled by the tree.
Pretty all I wanted to say summed it in a nice package.
The Logan that sacrificed himself? He’s untouched, this is a new Logan. I don’t normally say things like this, but his point on actors overstaying their welcome is something I just find to be complete bullshit. Hugh wanted to play Wolverine again, so he did so. Logan still exists, this movie was just meant to be fun.
Exactly, you have to look at the Deadpool movies the way you look at spaceballs, or any other satire/parody. It’s not meant to be taken seriously, it makes references and uses characters for jokes to entertain people and that’s about all there is to it. Trying to seriously analyze its implications on the timeline is just a waste of time.
This is what lack of grass does to you
@@controlroomguy omg 🤣
Hilarious hearing that come from a Deadpool fan
Quite the opposite. I'd say he's been smoking too much
@@ManiacMayhem7256bros allergic to grass 😂
The virgin “I can no longer enjoy Logan because a separate movie said the universe would end in 1000 years 🤓”
Vs
The chad “Logan is a great stand alone movie experience and my enjoyment can’t really be changed 🗿”
It's almost as if Deadpool's entire point as a character and a franchise is to be a parody that makes fun of other part's of the Marvel Universe
Intentional does not equal good. The Last Jedi wanted to subvert Star Wars and did so. That doesn't make it good.
So pruning Laura and deteriorating Logan's universe because of his sacrifice is just poking fun? Alright, you do you
"B-b-b-but it lampshaded that what they're doing is bad so it must be goooood!!!"
> still multiverse crap that doesn't make sense and doesn't follow any remotely consistent logic
> still disrespects the character of deadpool
> the entire premise of the movie goes against everything we know about the character and the overarching plot of the previous 2 movies
> the entire premise of the movie goes against the plot of the same movie
Oh but he admitted that "multiverse bad" so clearly it's absolute cinema.
Btw the end fight of deadpool vs deadpools also makes no sense because ah yes let's all lie on the floor for 5 minutes until he deals with the last of us so we can stand up all at the same time.
@@Sousabird Trying to use "good" in this context is funny since it's a purely subjective point of view as to whether you enjoy parody.
If you don't like Deadpool as a character and a franchise and do not like the thing he has been known for half of his lifespan as a character then why watch or try to critically analyse his content at all? You're admitting that you will come to a negative conclusion about Deadpool-related content either way. If that's the case then simply choose not to interact with it at all, whether from a critical point of view or not.
For the record, I don't actually like or care about this movie enough to have a full debate on whether's its good or not. The film was okay and managed to keep me thoroughly entertained. It's not the best film ever and it's certainly not even the best Deadpool movie but it did manage to be better than what I was expecting.
And I think Deadpool is being flanderized as just a 4th wall breaking, irreverent character. Deadpool’s acting up to hide away his deeper insecurities and how he never seem to be able to hold genuine connections with other characters, not because it’s his purpose in life. He has morals, knows when something is serious, and knows the right moments to keep his mouth shut. Yet as he continues to be depicted more and more as some irreverent character who’s out to poke fun at everything, he would lose all the nuance in his character.
You're just mad you didn't get the part you auditioned for
Lmao
Literally
He's complaining about the writing not the actors
Logan sacrifices himself to give children a life in a universe that would’ve had another 2k years his death clearly still had meaning
@@caden2185 Yeah and also, being pruned by the TVA is a lot better than being killed
Logan destroyed the timeline first.
It didn't because it was always on its own timeline/universe
@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Not if you ask James Mangold
@@ejn8982 give a source of him saying Logan was canon to the other xmen films
No it didn’t.
If Deadpool and wolverine has no haters I'm dead and buried
That's so needlessly extreme. I dig it.
Very funny
Reynols and marvel: this is a complete diferent wolverine we swear
Fans: then why every version is played by the same actor?
MR: because no one can play wolverine better than hugh.
Fans: by that logic every spider-man in homecoming should have beeing played by tom holland.
MR: well what do you want? Everyone beeing played by completly different actor and everybody looking different?
Fans: well every single spiderman in the spiderverse movies are played by different actors
Mr: fuudge..
I don't understand why people defend a property they like from someones opinion. Especially when he's right.
modern fandom video essayists be like: Why are they singing pop songs in Shrek? This movie clearly set in a medieval fantasy, this doesn't make any sense this is a massive plot hole, this movie is litteraly disrespecting the audience.
Yet another multiverse movie that shows how the multiverse ruined the mcu. And now it's ruining other franchises as well.
Man, Logan is a hot contender with Joker for the spot of 'best superhero movie' in my heart.
They're both so different that I decided to allow them to share that space.
Both are peak
Joker doesn't deserve that spot. Not because it isn't a 9/10 masterpiece, but because it's not a superhero movie. (If you count it as one, you're admitting that genre classifications are just meaningless bullshit.)
Joker???
@@PowerfulSkeleton
Counterpoint: nuh uh
@matthewharner1744 rebuttal: uh huh.
As someone who likes the movie:
"It's acutally ON PURPOSE that they're disrespecting logan it's the entire point" is a very shitty argument. defenders of it need to stop using it.
Eh still funny
@@kwayneboy1524 yea it's funny
But why? Deadpool is basically a satire/parody of the characters it’s referencing. So being upset that it disrespects Logan to me is basically like being mad that spaceballs disrespects chewie and Han Solo.
To be fair the XMen films have had such a messed up timeline I just went with the flow in the movie
Trying to fit the Deadpool movies' timeline with the Logan movie's is really hurting my brain because of how contradictory and incoherent the events across the movies are
It’s a waste of time, the movie is written as stand alone experience, trying to make sense of Deadpool’s meta jokes and retcons is just missing the point that makes both movies enjoyable.
@@donovan4222 It wasn't written as a stand alone experience because establishing that the events of Logan happened in Deadpool's universe makes this movie canonically a sequel to the Logan movie
And what makes the movie enjoyable requires turning off your brain or going into the movie expecting anything but internal consistency
@@daniquemaxwell5070 You’re technically correct, but my point is that it’s more a sequel in the same way Spaceballs is a sequel to Star Wars. Deadpool is in many ways a meta satire/parody of the characters it’s referencing/using.
It technically is a sequel, but it’s not really meant to be taken as a serious continuation of the story. The only thing that even changes is Logan’s universe was ending in 1000 years and Laura got pruned by the TVA some undisclosed time after Logan. Even if you did take Deadpool seriously, I don’t think that changes anything relevant about enjoying g Logan at all.
@@donovan4222 Nobody is saying that you can't enjoy Logan on its own anymore but since its movie is canonically a sequel you can't view Logan without acknowledging what comes after and as Sheev explained how Logan being the anchor being undermines his sacrifice
The movie also has some serious scenes like when it was revealed that DP's universe was going to be erased because of Logan's death so the movie is coming across as a continuation with some levels of seriousness
@@daniquemaxwell5070 I don’t really view it as a sequel any more than I view it as a sequel to green lantern or fantastic four or blade or any of the other movies deadpool references.
Even though it’s technically a sequel, the movie really doesn’t anything do anything with these characters that changes or directly connects to their respective movies like a true sequel would. I feel like a movie like this can’t really can’t change much about Logan treating it this way.
Before watching the video (idk how much of this you'll mention, but even without external sources it's obvious): I despise the X-Men movies "continuity". And even without mentioning how all the main movies have a really bad connection with each other:
-Deadpool 2 is in a separate timeline, but it's totally ignored. I guess we can chalk it up to "this movie generally fucked up time travel mechanics". Doesn't change the fact that they don't even research their own stuff.
-Logan is also still supposed to officially be an alternate future.
-However, The New Mutants (which nobody watched) takes place in the Revised X-Men timeline and shows us footage from Logan, which implies these events also happened in this universe.
-If Logan truly is the definitive future now, then still, it's supposed to take place in 2029. So, if it's retconned to happen before 2024 (and after 2018 because Deadpool 2), how are Colossus, Negasonic and Yukio just... hanging out with Deadpool? If it still takes place in 2029 and in the revised timeline, then... we have two Logans now? Is Deadpool going to warn the 10005 Wolverine? No? Okay.
I know it's a Deadpool movie and it's intention is to make fun of how messy this continuity is, but, idk, it's probably because I'm also a comic fan, there's just so many things ignored "because it's simpler and funnier now" that I can't enjoy this movie that much.
deadpool and wolverine dug up my grave and slaughtered my sacred cow
You can't compare those two movies. D&W was fun with a cool emotional twist in the end. Logan was dead serious and I loved it for that. I don't understand how you can let an obviously overall silly movie ruin your experience of a very different, very mature take on the Wolverine in Logan.
Continuity
He spelled it all out in the video. Watch it, it's good.
Watch the video.
@@captainziggy82 I did. I made a general point since people seem to get so mad over D&L. I just don't get it.
It's because (in my opinion) it's just one more example of "nothing can ever end anymore" no character or movie gets to simply tell it's story and be done. It has to be remade, rehashed, revamped sequel-ed, and eventually, its rotting corpse exhumed and re-sacrificed on Hollywood's golden altar of profit.
I mean the opening of the movie was the equivalent of a scene from SpongeBob.
“Am I really gonna defile this grave for money? Of course I AM!”
I mean, Deadpool literally said in the movie that they cant do this scene while respecting Wolverines ending lol
idk this dude sounds like a debbie downer. like at a party youd go "ya i enjoyed infinity war" and this dude would pull out a white board and explain why your opinion is wrong. sounds like he had no fun watching this or any other movie.
He would. Someone on twitter said they liked the movie a lot and he said "it's a 3/10 let's be honest" like nobody asked.
Yet you come to his video and start acting like he's the asshole
@@Luna-pk7gz Because those are equivalent actions.
@ParticularFix
To be fair he kinda is, this is the same guy who will complain not criticize in any intelligent manner about something that happened may years ago that’s not even of any relevance anymore like the guy needs to move on
@ParticularFix
Also his twitter replies don’t really help him on this manner too
But it didn't. The ending is still intact and it doesn't change any outcome. Nothing you say changes that and even admit it in the beginning basically.
At least you admitted you didn't reach the latter stages of this video.
@@TA-zq3ez I absolutely finished it and nothing he said changed what he said in the beginning. At least you've admitted you don't have language comprehension skills.
His point later on is that, introducing Logan as an anchor being means the kids are doomed no matter what - if he sacrifices himself, the world ends, if he doesn't, they die. There is nothing he can do to give those kids a better life now
@@KorrinBeck He said Laura did not get to live much of a life because she was pruned and sent to the void. Are you dense or just deliberately ignoring what was said in the video?
@@TA-zq3ez bro is the biggest Deadpool meatrider
19:25 the kids are doomed regardless because there is going to be someone hunting mutants regardless and Logan was the only line of real defense. So you kind of have to argue that there is no more mutant hinters ever
If they cross the border no one can come after them anymore because it's out of their jurisdiction
I mean the only thing that was actively hunting them was the organization that they escaped from. I don’t think anyone else knows of their existence since everyone in the organization is dead.
You do you, but I think you can simply choose not to see Deadpool frenchise as canon to all the other MCU movies, while seeing other MCU movies as canon to Deadpool. It's a high budget fanfiction, but not in a bad way in this case.
While I agree with a lot of what you had to say (Not all, but most of) I really did enjoy this movie and I think it was fun to turn my brain off and have a good time with it. I really loved seeing Wolverine come back and wear the iconic suit, and Ryan as Deadpool is just too good. I do wish they just didn't tie this movie into Logan at all, as the concept of anchor beings is just ridiculous, and I hope secret wars just does away with the multiverse entirely and we get a new fresh start.
Anchor beings are stupid. Saying nobody else matters except a single mortal. F that!
the bliss of only having seen like 4 marvel movies is that when something like DP vs wolverine comes out I can just sit back and enjoy it not thinking about all the shit that's being trampled in the background. its an enlightened state of being
So this is what it looks like when a guy who is so obsessed with writing overanalyzes a character whose entire humour is based off making meta jokes, about how Disney buying FOX and Hugh Jackman retiring means that the entirety of the old X-men movies will end up dying out and becoming forgotten, like the fantastic four, blade, the daredevil and elektra movies.
Not everything needs to be taken literally Sheev, you don't have to brainstorm how the Green Lantern fits in the MCU because he showed up in a visual gag in Deadpool 2 once.
Bro I love your channel but I’m 3 minutes into this video and I have to stop. Look how easy this sums up. Dead pool goes to find Logan. Dead pool digs up Logan’s dead body. Dead pool kills TVA with Logan’s skeleton and then he simply leaves that universe to find another Logan. The only way they “tarnished” the ending of Logan was Wade digging him up and using the bones to kill the TVA. That’s really the only time Logan from Logan is even in the movie. X23 mentions him later and that’s literally it for that Logan.
7:40 Ok tbf Deadpool's meta knowledge gives him some leeway with info like this since he'd have the same awareness as the audience that would've watched Logan. As for why he'd assume Logan wasn't actually dead that can be chalked up as him coping being in denial, assuming Logan is actually in some kind of regenerative healing coma, and the movie needed an excuse to have the Bye Bye Bye sequence (Worth it BTW).
Honestly the anchor being stuff kinda reeks of the we didn't know how to get this plot started and a writers strike happened during production and is frankly the weakest part of what In My Opinion at least was a great movie.
Same guy who said The Boys is an awful show. Dishonest critic with dishonest criticism. Get outta here.
Isn't that show that calls you a moron for beeing a fan of the superhero movies because they are corporate f4cist nonsense that force you to workship fake heroes and celebrities, and vote for awfull people to get into politics just because of their celebrity status? Words from the show runner himself not mines.
12:12 The problem is that Logan established to be the same universe as the x men franchise long before Deadpool 3 if you ask that to any fan they hope it’s a different universe but it is established in the same universe already
I just hate when fun movies are fun 😫😫😫😫😫😫😫
@@Goober12345 Me when Deadpool has a line of dialogue that doesn’t take into account every intricate detail of the timeline from a 20 year old x men movie: 😡
While I agree with most of your points, it reallyyy hard to not just see the Logan movie in a vacuum. With all the dumbass time-travel shit that every super hero movie pulls, I could never unironically rewatch Logan and think "this is all worthless" or something like that, to which I am happy. I think the anchor being concept is holy shit levels of terrible, but the idea that his death "doomed the universe", i.e making his sacrifice pointless, is dumb only in the sense that the universe is *supposed* to be around for another 2000 years, so every kid including Laura would have been able to live a long happy life. Anchor beings are dumb, the pruning is dumb, it's really hard to see the deadpool movies as anything other than in their own universe, there's sooo much bullshit that I'm surprised you tackled all the subjects in this video, but I respect the venting lmao.
What confuses me is that deadpool and wolverine acts like deadpool and logan take place in the same universe. Logan dies in 2029 but Deadpool and wolverine is set in 2024 so logan wouldn’t even be dead in the first point.
You don't even understand what Ryan and Hugh are saying in the first clip you showed 💀
Yes, he did. This movie makes it so that Logan can't truly save the kids in the end, no matter what he does. That's explicitly what the movie makes the case, if you consider it canon.
@@PowerfulSkeleton That's not what they're talking about in that first clip 🤦♂️
@@LvVStudios what are they talking about?
@@FirstLast-uj3xk About how the Wolverine from "Logan" won't be thrown into the Lazarus Pit and be resurrected. That remained true in "Deadpool & Wolverine", so they didn't lie about anything and neither ruined anything 🤷♂️
("Logan died in 'Logan'... Not touching that.")
@@LvVStudios He literally communicated this exact point at the beginning of the video, my guy.
Bros yapping hard, put the fries in the bag bruh
I feel like the type of meta humor, fourth wall breaks, and references has just got me thinking more about movies. Not just with marvel but with a lot of movies and TV shows nowadays, even ones that I genuinely do enjoy. It's not superhero fatigue. It's meta humor fatigue. I'm saying it.
I don't want to be this guy; but it's like trying to apply logic to a parody movie i.e. The naked gun or hotshots. Is it frustrating as hell, definitely.Are you digging into this too deep , absolutely.
Deadpool 3 is a love letter to the 20 century fox abandoned stories/franchise. Everything in this movie is a joke to that ends. Internal logic be damn .
Sounds like you just like Logan ,& upset that they messed with it after saying they won't.
How It Should Have Ended is a parody. Superhero Movie! is a parody. This isn’t. This is an official MCU movie with the established rules and continuity of the MCU.
And also, why shouldn’t he be upset that they lied? They lied.
Madvocate was right, a Celestial should have been the anker being.
your pfp and account name makes this reply so much funnier
10:15 - Sheev, Mangold thinks that Logan is a direct sequel to the stories that came before:
"It's year 2029 when the movie takes place," said Mangold. "There's an epilogue scene in 'Days of Future Past' which is 2024, or 2023, something like that. I just wanted to get far enough past. My goal was real simple: it was to pick a time where I had enough elbow room that I was clear of existing entanglements. Part of the way I think this films stop being fresh (these films being franchise comic book movies) is when you find yourself making essentially a television series with $200 million episodes where you're literally just picking up where the last one left off and you're making a mini-series. Then, it's impossible to do something fresh, meaning essentially you're just a director on the 14th episode of a television show picking up where the last one left off and people are going to be really startled by any discontinuity or changes."
Mangold even says Logan is a sequel to Days of Future Past. Jackman is just wrong. But the bigger issue is that Mangold REALLY doesn't care about paying attention to continuity.
The problem with referencing older films but it could be that "it wasn't what we remember" is that the filmmakers want us to remember our emotional connection to Logan's character and development with previous films without putting in the work. Because we have no idea that these stories "Logan" references are the other movies or their version of events which could have been VERY different, I immediately disconnect my emotional attachment to them when they bring them up in the film. I honestly would argue that Logan is a terrible movie that disrespects Logan as a character. One of the biggest middle-fingers to the Logan character was the whole "you never knew what a family was" nonsense message as a huge disservice to this character who made the X-men his family, and the backstory for the movie is so vague that you have to create your own fan-fiction to have any of this even remotely make sense.
13:30 - "They're similar to the other movies, but different just enough so that not everything has to line up"
Isn't that the EXACT same argument for Logan's character in "Logan"? And I criticize both "Logan" and "Spider-man: No Way Home" for this same issue.
Isn't that the point? Irreverence is Deadpool's thing.
They didn't have to put that scene in there and doing it to a pos villain is one thing that's acceptable because of the context but doing it to a beloved and respected character is a different can of worms
While I kind of agree with this videos central premise, I don't think it's true that it makes Logan's sacrifice pointless. Maybe true in a literal sense, but he didn't know that at the time. Sacrifices aren't validated only if they pay off, the character needed to make that sacrifice and from his perspective what he was doing wasn't pointless. Therefore, it doesn't really matter if it is ultimately pointless. This is even more true when anyone in his position would have thought the same thing. If the gods can flick their wrist and rewrite the timeline, it doesn't follow that we must simply account for this in our every action, it's completely beyond our control or ability to predict.
I feel like you and Mauler could do a 76 hour stream on this subject....I'd be all for it.
yes please, Mauler needs to work with better people than fucking Methrotic
To be fair they did say they wouldn't weren't going to have Wolverine in the movies without ruining the ending. So at least they were upfront about it
sheev doesn't seem to understand funny movie=good. just don't think about it🙄
Fun≠good
@@Largentfan80 In this case the movie is both
@lukescrew1981 im being sarcastic lmao
@@e3i1ra I'm not
@@e3i1ra ngl chief I think the “you have to learn to enjoy things” people are right about this one. Not thinking the Gambit scene was funny is just anti-fun
That's a big oh dear moment.
A billions of years old universe with uncountable planets and beings. And one mortal dude is the anker point? Lost me there
*immortal, them having Logan be it is them saying that the X-men franchise went downhill after he died because he was what carried it. The movie is basically all meta with an alright story.
@@spider-manunknown9193nah, the script needs to make sense on the base level as well, not just on the meta. ATSV suffers from the same problem
@@nothingwrong2293 How does ATSV suffer from that?
@@spider-manunknown9193 oh boy. In short, meta narrative of ATSV is about how all Spider-Man stories are samey since they follow the same bits like uncle Ben's or close captain's deaths (which isn't even true in the first place, but I guess ATSV retcons every story that goes differently) and how Miles can be something different, not driven by guilt but by something else, carve his own path, hence the "Imma do my own thing". The problem is that the Spider Society is full of skinwalking imposters who only pretend to be Spider-Men and go against everything Spider-Man stands for. Letting uncle Ben/whoever die for your own character development makes sense only on meta level, but it's antithetical to Ben's lesson, which is about never ignoring people in need and doing everything in your power to help them (Spectacular was saying this outloud constantly). Sure, Spider-Man can't save everyone, but he should always try, yet Spider Society gave up. So, Miles isn't rebelling against these old story writing conventions, he's doing what any real sane Spider-Man would've done in his place, not really his "own thing"
Hoooh yeah, were eating well recently Sheeve. Thank you.
It’s all burnt.
Bro, even in the first scene, when wade is talking about not ruining logan, he even says in scripted dialogue. "We lied" case closed. Its an amazing movie regardless, and even the first scene where he descrates the corpse for monetary gain and hilarity was very well done. Easy conclusion. This follows the same gag as the first and second one with "did I say this was a super hero movie" "no its a horror film" "this is a family film" type of gag.
"Its an amazing movie regardless"
you like the acolyte
@@Shitposting_IHMN Fuck the acolyte. DP&W was still amazing.
You want to know the funny thing? I had high hopes for this movie. My dad saw it and my cousin wanted to see it with me. My dad lives states away so if we were near each other we would have seen the movie together.
But I saw the movie and was 15 minutes late. I don't like being late to things. And I missed that opening scene. Hearing people talk about it I was fine with it because my dumb brain never registers the bad until my brain turned on. And when it's turned on. Well I don't know. I've had it shut off for every MCU movie and Deadpool 3 had my brain off and said just enjoy. So at least you gor to see the stupid. My brain was turned off and I missed top much of the movie. 15 minutes is still 15 minutes
No, not case closed.
Just because the movie is aware that it's doing something stupid, that doesn't make it not stupid.
@@Shitposting_IHMN lmao cry more
I mostly agree, but the fact that this movie existed at all, as you mentioned, was going to fuck with the legacy of Logan as the last hurrah for Jackman's portrayal of the character. In that sense, I sort of appreciated the "fuck it we'll literally desecrate his corpse" approach in the opening. And if that were all it was, I think I would have been fine with it. But the thematic dessication was the more agregious thing which I agree was unnecessary and poorly handled. Anchor beings are a dumb concept. As much as I can sometimes enjoy the idea of tying meta importance to in-universe importance (like Superman as the centre of the DC metaverse) - the idea that a human being dying causes a universe to collapse raises so many logical questions like you pointed out here that it's just mind boggling dumb.
Imo adding the tva with Deadpool was a meh decision. I think the movie would have been better if it was Deadpool going on a mission to resurrect Wolverine or something just to ask him a stupid question at the end. Would have been hilarious. The whole multiverse stuff is just boring at this point
Deadpool once again proves that he’s the most obnoxious character in history.
He never was
imagine doing an analysis like this top point out every flaw in family guy. you arent suposed to take it seriously , its a comedy
Except deadpool 1 and 2 can be taken seriously whilst having the jokes land.. DP isnt a parody, its a self-aware comedy that, up until the 3rd, had a beating heart that made sense. Now it relies on performances to carry, whilst the plot and characters are totally mistreated.
I know instructions when I see them, even if you disguise them as a joke. Seth will never know what hit him.
Agree. Making him an anchor being makes his death at the end of Logan meaningless.
So wait, why did Wolverine allow himself to die at the end of Logan? I haven't seen the movie yet, but what happens to the children after he dies? He can't do anything for them when he's dead, how are they supposed to live a "normal" or happy life afterwards? Was there only a single group that completely stopped their pursuit after Logan dies???
I think you can fit Logan in the good 2024 timeline of DoFP by saying Logan was conversationally rounding 23 up to 25, setting the silent genocide of mutants to after 2006, where the kids in 24 would be turning 18.
You should pick on these movies more. They deserve it
The story you are looking for is Fionna and Cake. This is just a cheap copy of that.
Fox Marvel really shouldve just split the two xmen timelines into two universes and set Logan in the old universe
I wasn't really offended by that grave scene but I was disappointed. It was unnecessary and what's worse it wasn't even that good of a joke. I've heard people chuckle about it but nobody was laughing out loud because of how funny it was
This is just contrarianism by this point lol
"Modern thing bad, old thing good"
You think Logan is old?
@@SheevTalks when Logan came out, it was just as old today, as supernatural season 5.
So yes, i consider it old, especially when you are so easy to criticize new media such as Boys only bcuz its profitable to do it now.
@@konstancemakjaveli Alternative explanation: both Deadpool and Wolverine and The Boys are badly written and I wanted to explain why
@@konstancemakjaveli the boys isn't new
@@SheevTalksBoth aren’t bad.
Dude I got chewed the fuck up for echoing this exact sentiment in an IG comment section. Hundreds of replies from pissed off MCU fanboys. One dude even called me a coward.
@@crona1794 be grateful you didn’t say it on Twitter bro. 😭
I’d rather be hated by the fanboys than force myself to enjoy the dog slop that has been the MCU’s Multiverse Saga.
skill issue
Complaining about getting hate from probably kids lets be real ? Grow up. You got called a coward ? Crazy, move on.
@@Luna-pk7gz I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
I think that Logan as a film isn't even that great if it doesn't share continuity and a timeline with the previous X-Men films. Deadpool 3 screwing with it even further is just a natural consequence of his meta-hijinks intersecting with Fox choosing director ego over a coherent story.
Wut
Yes, it was a joke. And it was one an amazing joke, that literally had me laughing outloud in the first minute of a movie. And I seriously don't believe, that any other movie ever managed to do that.
The movie plot has hundreds of serious issues, but this just ain't one of them. I guess we disagree for the first time :D
no.
i like to mention how they never explicitly save the timeline. i don't think the new logan becomes the anchor being, and so it could've been an excuse the dude who was planning on erasing the timeline made up so deadpool didn't get angry (which did not work out)
Maybe the dead Logan in Deadpool 3 is a different dead Logan than the Logan that died in Logan, but at a slightly different time, but similar enough circumstance that a general audience could easily confuse Deadpool 3 dead Logan as Logan dead Logan, rendering the whole argument that Deadpool 3 ruined Logan inconsequential, if it wasn't inconsequential already!
no movie has ever meant anything; Scorsese was wrong: all movies are roller coasters
12:12 The problem is that Logan established to be the same universe as the x men franchise long before Deadpool 3 if you ask that to any fan they hope it’s a different universe but it is established in the same universe already so you kind of can’t say that’s a problem in Deadpool 3 but Logan
Logan didn't establish in the same universe, James Mangold and Hugh Jackman said it's in its own universe
@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS They said that but plenty of people in the studio say it is in the same universe so…
@@Redoren966 cite a source
While I still enjoyed this movie a lot, I do agree with your criticisms, mostly the timeline stuff and how it undermines Logan, but personally even if I movie is objectively bad (IE the prequels) I’m still able to enjoy it which I think is the case for this movie
I disrespectfully disagree with this video. It's crazy how you watched one of the most fun superhero movies of all time and all you got out of it was "this completely ruins Logan" rather than "wow, that was such an amazing love letter to that era of superhero movies". I think that looking at it from Marvel movie lore perspective is a completely incorrect way to even attempt to interpret DP&W. Everyone hates Marvel's obtuse and borderline nonexistent time travel and multiverse rules, so the writers just did their own thing that fit with the story they wanted to tell. The rules established in DP&W are there to set up the stakes and get the characters where the script wants them, just like every other Marvel movie with time travel or multiverse shenanigans. The point of this movie is to let the audience have fun with Hugh Jackman's Wolverine one last time (or maybe more if Hugh really is doing this until he's 90). Logan was a bittersweet last hurrah for the Wolverine of the Fox era, and DP&W is a bombastic love letter to Hugh Jackman and all of pre-MCU Marvel. The idea of an "anchor being" is literally just for Wolverine and is a metaphor for how Hugh Jackman is so synonymous with the character. Wolverine's death in Logan was, in the eyes of DP&W, the symbolic death of Hugh as the character. Deadpool desecrating his grave is a nod to how this movie is symbolically digging up Hugh Jackman's corpse and forcing him to play the character again. It's also there to troll all the people who care too much and would get mad over them bringing Wolverine back, like you. Lastly, take back what you said about Gambit. He was awesome and you're a stupid, no-fun, stinky poo poo head and I WILL fight you >:(
@@Wheaty03 It's of Sheevs thing
Ruin is a strong word as I still think the ending of Logan is still impactful regardless and besides canon in tge fox X-Men world is always non existent(And I am a big lore guy)so I say don't get hung up on the lore and just watch the story unfold.
Did you miss the first Minute of this Video? He said you can enjoy things in a vacuum, but this Video is about the impact of d&w to the xmen franchise
@@zombie5591 Yeah I know that hoss that's why I am commenting I saw the vid and I am putting in my two cents on it all.
Why that got you mad?
@@kwayneboy1524 you didnt realy gave something to be mad about you just made a comment that shows you either didnt understand or didnt warch this Video
Like godzillamendoza said
“The X-Men timelines were always confusing, just let them be confusing one last time”
Let them be go out the same way they came in
Confusing
I don’t mind
And if you do mind
Well that’s not really anyones problem besides yours
Watch transformers one btw