@christoph_wattever lol it's crazy these devs are too ambitious with graphics we cant really see, I honestly feel performance and optimization should be the focus for the next gen,i switched over to pc like 4 years ago and honestly 120+ fps is the best feeling i got from it
They have to step back and see where they went wrong. Batman Arkham Knight comes to mind. This game came out nearly 10 years ago, looks better than Stalker 2 with its UE5 and with same hardware has like 100 fps more
Graphics to get more realistic now require much more hardware and very different software technologies to move forward and make a difference visually (or just even in accuracy even if it doesn't "look better" to the player). It's just way more demanding now unfortunately, especially in Unreal Engine.
Yip imagine what next gen games will need! Stalker 2 needs Nvidia 4090 to run native 4K 60fps RT on or a Nvidia 4080super to play Dlss upscaled quality RT on 4K. Framegen is the worst new tech as it adds so much input lag i dont know how anyone switches that on!
@jacooosthuizen3593 you need 4090 to run alot of games at 4k 60 NATIVELY and to be honest you still cant get 4k 60 on ultra with a 4090 in half the games, i have a rtx 4090, and FG isn't always bad its much better then my first impression of it, in this game if you turn frame gen on while vsync to 60 it's awful, sad thing is games are made now a days as if you are suppose to run it with fg because your fps without it sucks
Console is probably better. The AMD frame gen adds a lot of input lag which makes it unplayable. Just get a beast PC if you want to play this game, don't cheap out. If you already have an Xbox Series X then you will enjoy it on there.
Can a xsx run red dead at native 4k, 60 fps 100+ fps, what about gotham knight,hell blade 2, what about starfield at launch,what about avowed when it comes out, let's not forget about mods and emulators, this pc can do it, if not this computer can easily be upgraded just upgrade the gpu, a xbox can't do that, and speaking of input lag do you have any idea how much less input lag is on pc, pc has the fastest response time, also fun fact fg on pc input delay with fg no worse then console input lag when you consider console input delay can easily be double that of the pc in many games expecially at high fps like 100fps or more, so yes even fg input delay is better then console input delay with no fg most the time
5:12 Judging by the video, the settings on Xbox are higher than on PC. The textures and vegetation immediately catch your eye, I think the other settings are also higher.
@demanikz yes the xbox would be set around the medium preset, the pc was set to low and medium, the xbox looks better and performs better, the pc is more versatile and has frame gen
Hello! Could you please compare with Quality mode? I used to play with performance mode but because xbox is cpu bottlenecked frame rate is not consistent and always less than 60. So on Quality with 30 fps game actually feels better and looks sharper.
Set shadows, ssr and vegetation to xbox level atleast. Not a fair fight. Also FSR looks smoother for the price of input lag. I have similiar setup, R5 3600, 32gigs memory, RTX 2070.
I'm not trying to match the xbox to the T, I'm trying to compare them, the fps could not keep up with the xbox the more I turned graphics up on pc the more the fps went down on pc, so I was looking for a sweat spot to make it comparable with xbox, at first glance they look the same, but the xbox has better raw performance, trust me I'm team pc I always want the pc to win but ima be honest aswell, that's the reason I went and got the ryzen 5 3600 I had to give the pc a uplift
@@AG-PC336 Im so sory bro :( i have some mental health broblems... sory for toxicity So i tried again. Undervolt my gpu down to 1volt and crank gpu up to 1950-2050mhz (depends on load). 2560x1080 native ~ 40 fps dlss+famegen ~ 70-80 fps fsr+framegen ~ 100 with few drops to 80 low-mid setting ok, this is actualy fun
@Andrea_aka_Nux yea but its definitely not ideal, xbox isn't made for the keyboard & mouse like pc, xbox has more input lag, and less customizable but none the less you can use it
@@AG-PC336 I use KB/M on Xbox and never experienced input lag, and that's with also using a usb port extender. Input lag would only affect bluetooth kb/m or low quality wired ones.
@@samtarooomouse on Xbox works at only 125 hz, like a controller, compared to usual 1000 hz on PC. It's feels unresponsive and it LOOKS LAGGY if you move the camera around with a mouse
@T.N-p9c i recorded both at 1440p, the xbox in performance mode is not 4k, the pc was running 1440p upscaled by 50% and still match the resoulition of the xbox, im sure the xbox is using a dynamic resolution at 720p-1080p then upscaling to 1440p maybe 1800p but the resoulition was similar for both
@@T.N-p9c Nah according to DF, XSX performance mode outputs 4k image by using TSR upscaled from about dynamic 864P to 1152P, maybe epic textures, other medium to high settings, which is significantly better than this PC's image and native 40 ish fps. This is Xbox first party APU really well utilized and optimized title.
nice vid bro, keep it up!!!!
Nice videos brother love them i always want to know what in game settings xbox series x uses vs pc
@c_wail4gaming540 seem like console uses a mixture of medium/low somtimes medium/high in my opinion
This is crazy. Games 10 years ago looked better and can run with 200 fps easy on modern hardware
@christoph_wattever lol it's crazy these devs are too ambitious with graphics we cant really see, I honestly feel performance and optimization should be the focus for the next gen,i switched over to pc like 4 years ago and honestly 120+ fps is the best feeling i got from it
They have to step back and see where they went wrong. Batman Arkham Knight comes to mind. This game came out nearly 10 years ago, looks better than Stalker 2 with its UE5 and with same hardware has like 100 fps more
Graphics to get more realistic now require much more hardware and very different software technologies to move forward and make a difference visually (or just even in accuracy even if it doesn't "look better" to the player). It's just way more demanding now unfortunately, especially in Unreal Engine.
Yip imagine what next gen games will need! Stalker 2 needs Nvidia 4090 to run native 4K 60fps RT on or a Nvidia 4080super to play Dlss upscaled quality RT on 4K. Framegen is the worst new tech as it adds so much input lag i dont know how anyone switches that on!
@jacooosthuizen3593 you need 4090 to run alot of games at 4k 60 NATIVELY and to be honest you still cant get 4k 60 on ultra with a 4090 in half the games, i have a rtx 4090, and FG isn't always bad its much better then my first impression of it, in this game if you turn frame gen on while vsync to 60 it's awful, sad thing is games are made now a days as if you are suppose to run it with fg because your fps without it sucks
Nice video, thanks 🙂 subbed!
Console is probably better. The AMD frame gen adds a lot of input lag which makes it unplayable. Just get a beast PC if you want to play this game, don't cheap out. If you already have an Xbox Series X then you will enjoy it on there.
in this game its ok, and people already did mod that fix input lag
Can a xsx run red dead at native 4k, 60 fps 100+ fps, what about gotham knight,hell blade 2, what about starfield at launch,what about avowed when it comes out, let's not forget about mods and emulators, this pc can do it, if not this computer can easily be upgraded just upgrade the gpu, a xbox can't do that, and speaking of input lag do you have any idea how much less input lag is on pc, pc has the fastest response time, also fun fact fg on pc input delay with fg no worse then console input lag when you consider console input delay can easily be double that of the pc in many games expecially at high fps like 100fps or more, so yes even fg input delay is better then console input delay with no fg most the time
5:12 Judging by the video, the settings on Xbox are higher than on PC. The textures and vegetation immediately catch your eye, I think the other settings are also higher.
@demanikz yes the xbox would be set around the medium preset, the pc was set to low and medium, the xbox looks better and performs better, the pc is more versatile and has frame gen
Hello! Could you please compare with Quality mode? I used to play with performance mode but because xbox is cpu bottlenecked frame rate is not consistent and always less than 60. So on Quality with 30 fps game actually feels better and looks sharper.
xbox looks blurrier and shadow distance is shorter
Set shadows, ssr and vegetation to xbox level atleast. Not a fair fight. Also FSR looks smoother for the price of input lag. I have similiar setup, R5 3600, 32gigs memory, RTX 2070.
I'm not trying to match the xbox to the T, I'm trying to compare them, the fps could not keep up with the xbox the more I turned graphics up on pc the more the fps went down on pc, so I was looking for a sweat spot to make it comparable with xbox, at first glance they look the same, but the xbox has better raw performance, trust me I'm team pc I always want the pc to win but ima be honest aswell, that's the reason I went and got the ryzen 5 3600 I had to give the pc a uplift
Also newer games are given older hardware real problems your rtx 2070 i think holds up better then 5700xt you hopfully would crush the xbox
@@AG-PC336 Im so sory bro :( i have some mental health broblems... sory for toxicity
So i tried again. Undervolt my gpu down to 1volt and crank gpu up to 1950-2050mhz (depends on load). 2560x1080
native ~ 40 fps
dlss+famegen ~ 70-80 fps
fsr+framegen ~ 100 with few drops to 80
low-mid setting
ok, this is actualy fun
@@taktojonotvl naw your totally cool I see where you came from
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not fun
room hot
fans loud
counter on plug: 400w
all high except shadows fsr: quality
Nice bro!!!😉💙💛👍
You can play with mouse and key on xbox
@Andrea_aka_Nux yea but its definitely not ideal, xbox isn't made for the keyboard & mouse like pc, xbox has more input lag, and less customizable but none the less you can use it
@@AG-PC336 I use KB/M on Xbox and never experienced input lag, and that's with also using a usb port extender. Input lag would only affect bluetooth kb/m or low quality wired ones.
@@samtarooomouse on Xbox works at only 125 hz, like a controller, compared to usual 1000 hz on PC. It's feels unresponsive and it LOOKS LAGGY if you move the camera around with a mouse
Xbox series X 4k on???
@T.N-p9c i recorded both at 1440p, the xbox in performance mode is not 4k, the pc was running 1440p upscaled by 50% and still match the resoulition of the xbox, im sure the xbox is using a dynamic resolution at 720p-1080p then upscaling to 1440p maybe 1800p but the resoulition was similar for both
Yes Xbox 720-1080p to 1440p!
@@T.N-p9c Nah according to DF, XSX performance mode outputs 4k image by using TSR upscaled from about dynamic 864P to 1152P, maybe epic textures, other medium to high settings, which is significantly better than this PC's image and native 40 ish fps. This is Xbox first party APU really well utilized and optimized title.