How can he say beating Fw I swear people are nerving volk so bad Volk can move up to 155 and Beat top 3 guys easily He murdered holloway 3 times Just islam is another level Shame on bisping and dana
Islam has finished the best strikers and grapplers in MMA history. Appreciate the legend at this point. Fought with a staph infection and gave us a spectacular performance when all fights were boring on this card.
Poirier isn't the best striker in history he was slept by michael johnson and also its MMA and he's late 30s so it doesn't matter, and Charles Oliviera has been submitted by Jim Miller, Lamas, and Anthony Pettis, and in every title fight was dropped and almost finished, one of the most overrated fighters ever and has no wrestling.
@@Disinfo321 What?!? Charles literally has 21 submission wins and is a 3 degree jiu jitsu black belt. Dustin has literally ko'd and outstruck the best strikers in MMA history. He has almost beaten as many champions as Jon Jones.
@@alcottdevalte7440 Cool, I've never seen Demian Maia arm triangled by a wrestler and submitted by multiple brown belts. Oliviera has been subbed like 4 times. Daniel Cormier has tons of submissions doesn't mean he has elite BJJ. Again its mma not striking so who cares.
Jones lost to Journeyman novice Reyes, Gus, and middleweight journeyman with no legs Thiago Santos. Oh and Mike Tyson was nowhere near the best to ever do it, not even close.
@@richardcrawford1859 Champion of what exactly? He beat the guy that got beat by the Champ to get his belt and not to forget it was two years ago and now he is planning to face old Stipe lol
Islam Makhatchev is the best fight, versatile. It turns out he has good boxing. The most interesting fight was Poirier-Islam...Strickland and Costa - it was a very boring fight.
Dustin proved that he is still one of the best in the world and a future HOF'er. Islam proved that he is the best MMA fighter on the planet. It's crazy how one camp has managed to produce not one but TWO fighters who will be in the GOAT conversations forever.
@@samspencer5439khabib is one of the best for many reasons If conor influence the casuals Khabib big impact for changing the concept of mma in caucasian area
I never give Mike a hard time for being a company man. I appreciate his loyalty. However, this is nonsense. Jon Jones might as well be p4p #1 forever according to their logic. Also, let’s be honest, Ciryl was one of the easiest heavyweight fights he could have been given. Francis looked like an Olympic wrestler against him.
Yes 💯 The Gane Ngannou was wild for the take downs... Tom should fight Jon for sure... I could probably get behind these GOAT P4P statements in favour of Jones if his victory was over Ngannou and not Gane.
It needs to be said that Islam, the religion/way of life, has a very positive effect on Khabib's entire camp. No alcohol, partying, drugs, etc and being humble, honest family men puts them at an advantage over most of their opponents.
Not really , it’s all about genetics All that lifestyle stuff is bs One can make the argument that it’s not cuz those fighters are Muslims , but it’s because they are Russians Jon jones parties and take drugs and he would k most people in a fight , if not all people
It don’t really put them at an advantage, there’s many more fighters who do the same thing and ain’t got the success, it’s down to genetics and more importantly having a great coach who guided them from a young age, Khabib’s dad is the key for that camp
So when volk was 4p4 number 1 why no one mentioned Jones? When kamaru usman was p4p no 1 same thing no one mentioned Jones but somehow when khabib and islam became p4p they bring jhon jones
Islam fought with staph infection n he went for 5 rounds, talk about that too when everyone talked avoyt that before fight. Tell me if that is not p4P warrior he showed.. Beating the best boxer on a night with staph infection. V
Bisping towing the bosses line, jones arguably got beaten by gus, reyes and smith should have taken dq, plus the doping, nothing like that with Islam. P4p Islam Makhachev
Dana owes Bisping a damn bonus and a raise after that hogwash he was trying to defend Dana’s stupid comments on Jones as P4P #1. I am not the biggest Islam fan but he is the P4P best in the world
17:29 Another *L* take by Bisping. If Islam moves up he will be facing Leon Edwards, a good striker, but who is also ranked P4P#3 because he has good wrestling defense; a more complete fighter. So now tell us where was Ciryl Gane ranked in the P4P rankings when Jon fought him? Jon waited for Francis to leave and returned to fight the easiest most incomplete fighter in the hw top 5. And now instead of unifying the title, he’s ducking Tom to fight semi-retired, fulltime firefighter grandpa Stipe. GOATs/P4P👑s don't duck to fight elderly folks. 👎
Exactly i was thinking Herb Dean did ok by stopping that armbar. But after hearing Bisping, i agree with Bisping. Let the fighter decide if they tap and stop the fight or not.
Mike, don't let them bully u son, on the P4P debate. It comes down to what factors u value more. For instance, the lads value Islam's activity more (since 2023 fighting twice a year over Jon's once a year) and u & others value more Jon's tried & tested skills at the highest level over a much longer period than the flavour of the month i.e there's no skill or attribute that Islam has shown, which Jon has put on display for longer & still going.
Completely agree, goat != PFP king. With that logic, Jones would be P4P king as long as he's "active". Jones is the goat, Islam is the P4P king. End of discussion
Jon Jones is the “ goat “ But he’s not P4P 1. He avoided many fighters 2. Fought 1 time in 4yrs after docking Francis 3. He’s record is not clean with all the PEDs 4. And yes some of his wins were debatable eg (Dominick Reyes) A P4P king is someone who says “yeah bring anyone on, I will take them” - Jones doesn’t do that
Dustin proved himself a legend with that amazing performance and truly took Islam to the very limits ! 💎🔥🇺🇲 Islam cemented his legacy with sublime skill and supreme focus while overcoming adversity in a total war against the very best version of Dustin Poirier. And to do it while suffering from Staph infection is testament to Islam being the best fighter in the world and truly the P4P King 👑☪️🏔⛰🗻🦅🦅
Bisping towing the company line. If Jon Jones beats Aspinal then he's the P4P no1. He's not even in the conversation for P4P while he's ducking Aspinall.
Bisping is rediculous. Islam is clearly P4P number 1. What an absolute clown. Spitting with hate towards Islam and not making any sense whatsoever. What an absolute clown, he became a champ due to fluke and now is just Dana's lapdog on his payroll eager to repeat everything Dana says.
Stop talking about a particular aspect of mma in isolation. It’s MIXED martial arts, not itemised martial arts. The only way to discuss them is within the context of mma. There’s no point saying a fighter’s striking would be better if it’s not for the takedown threat of his opponent. Similarly, it’s a moot point to say a grappler would do better if his opponent is not allowed to strike. The point is they’re meant to get mixed; and any discussion about them should be done while bearing in mind that they are mixed.
Bisping earned a performance bonus from Dana for his defence of Jon Jones P4P status 💰💰💰
Bisbing once again proving he is a YES man. Balls in the octagon yes but outside of it he has none!
@matrix35 A wise man said "payday, payday, he want payday"
How can he say beating Fw
I swear people are nerving volk so bad
Volk can move up to 155 and Beat top 3 guys easily
He murdered holloway 3 times
Just islam is another level
Shame on bisping and dana
Can’t blame him, Dana's got Bisping’s balls in his wallet.
Bisping was so dishonest for discrediting Olivera : When he faced Islam he was at his prime n called the goat by these same dishonest people lol
Islam has finished the best strikers and grapplers in MMA history. Appreciate the legend at this point. Fought with a staph infection and gave us a spectacular performance when all fights were boring on this card.
Yeah my friend respect to the champ for that
Poirier isn't the best striker in history he was slept by michael johnson and also its MMA and he's late 30s so it doesn't matter, and Charles Oliviera has been submitted by Jim Miller, Lamas, and Anthony Pettis, and in every title fight was dropped and almost finished, one of the most overrated fighters ever and has no wrestling.
@@Disinfo321 What?!? Charles literally has 21 submission wins and is a 3 degree jiu jitsu black belt. Dustin has literally ko'd and outstruck the best strikers in MMA history. He has almost beaten as many champions as Jon Jones.
@@alcottdevalte7440 Cool, I've never seen Demian Maia arm triangled by a wrestler and submitted by multiple brown belts. Oliviera has been subbed like 4 times. Daniel Cormier has tons of submissions doesn't mean he has elite BJJ. Again its mma not striking so who cares.
@Disinfo321 , Poirier outstrike Holloway and Conor, he proved he is one of the best if not the best striker.
As per Michael's logic on P4P, Mike Tyson is still active and he was the best to ever do it, so he should be P4P no. 1 boxer right now.. 😂
This
Number one bulshit
Well no because he said jones is “still champion”… Tyson isn’t. So it’s not the same 👍👍
Jones lost to Journeyman novice Reyes, Gus, and middleweight journeyman with no legs Thiago Santos.
Oh and Mike Tyson was nowhere near the best to ever do it, not even close.
@@richardcrawford1859
Champion of what exactly?
He beat the guy that got beat by the Champ to get his belt and not to forget it was two years ago and now he is planning to face old Stipe lol
Bisping was so dishonest for discrediting Olivera : When he faced Islam he was at his prime n called the goat by these same dishonest people lol
Bisping is such a Islam hater. He says Islam doesn't have a good resume but he's fighting the biggest names
If on Saturday night, Dana White said Islam was the number 1 pound for pound Mike would not be having this discussion
Islam Makhatchev is the best fight, versatile. It turns out he has good boxing. The most interesting fight was Poirier-Islam...Strickland and Costa - it was a very boring fight.
Bisping is out of his mind
The shepherd called for Jon Jones on the press conference,so the sheep must oblige
He's a wasteman 😂
Hes a UFC pr machine.
Company man
H's getting engagement from it
Bisping clutching at straws to agree with Dana at any cost. A company man, weak principles
Best part of this Card.
" Khabib telling Trump to stop the W@r "
Really when where?
Pity he can't have a word with his own president and tell him to stop that war
@@mdncthetruth2556 Check out " Donald Trump with Khabib at UFC 302: Promises to End Gaza War During UFC (Full Conversation) "
I agree 💯
@@Sidney-Holiday Pls don't compare apple with Pineapple
That ankle pick takedown by Islam just a couple of minutes before the fight, to get that Darce' Choke... was an ABSOLUTE ART! ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE!!!
Dustin proved that he is still one of the best in the world and a future HOF'er.
Islam proved that he is the best MMA fighter on the planet. It's crazy how one camp has managed to produce not one but TWO fighters who will be in the GOAT conversations forever.
Who cares about this bullshit hall of fame talk? It's just a list of fighters who did pretty well and the UFC still like.
I fully agree that Islam is amazing and the best fight P4P rn but khabib isn’t one of the goats
@@samspencer5439khabib is one of the best for many reasons
If conor influence the casuals
Khabib big impact for changing the concept of mma in caucasian area
I never give Mike a hard time for being a company man. I appreciate his loyalty. However, this is nonsense. Jon Jones might as well be p4p #1 forever according to their logic. Also, let’s be honest, Ciryl was one of the easiest heavyweight fights he could have been given. Francis looked like an Olympic wrestler against him.
The yes man once again talking absolute nonsense!
By his metric, Conor McGregor is the pound for pound or perhaps Anderson Silva. No shame from Bisping!
That’s fair enough but being a company man can be a discrete manner. Bisping is so blatant
Yes 💯 The Gane Ngannou was wild for the take downs... Tom should fight Jon for sure...
I could probably get behind these GOAT P4P statements in favour of Jones if his victory was over Ngannou and not Gane.
Yeah, Cristiano Ronaldo in the running for ballon d’or
It needs to be said that Islam, the religion/way of life, has a very positive effect on Khabib's entire camp. No alcohol, partying, drugs, etc and being humble, honest family men puts them at an advantage over most of their opponents.
Not really , it’s all about genetics
All that lifestyle stuff is bs
One can make the argument that it’s not cuz those fighters are Muslims , but it’s because they are Russians
Jon jones parties and take drugs and he would k most people in a fight , if not all people
It don’t really put them at an advantage, there’s many more fighters who do the same thing and ain’t got the success, it’s down to genetics and more importantly having a great coach who guided them from a young age, Khabib’s dad is the key for that camp
@posintabook597 Jon Jones? The guy that lost to reyes, lost to gustavson (draw at best), and got dq'ed against a nobody?
Let's no forget that they all train at altitude.
Jon jones did all the drugs and alcohol got the GOAT status.
😂
Jones has had 1 fight in the last 4 and a half years, how can bisping call him active?
Bisping is becoming so uninterested. Don't want to listen to Bisping
Payday payday
Actually, he fought Dom Reyes in February 2020, so in 4 and Half years he's had 2....
I am just here for Adam and Nick forget about Bisping man
Bisping fears that Islam takes Leons belt
I don’t even think it’s that, he’s a company man before anything and the boss man said Jon is P4p #1 so company bisping agrees
Bisping just stop talking pls 🤣
Lol
My god Bisping was yapping about the P4P #1 spot
lol Bisping doesn’t understand the concept of P4P at all
Bisping drowning in deep water. “There’s no correct answer” proper 🔔 end.
Bisping kissed dana..dana please give bisping bonuses & keep him as lifetime ufc commentator😂😂😂wtf bisping talking about
Of course Mike agrees with Dana 😅
Islam Makhachev is the best ❤
So when volk was 4p4 number 1 why no one mentioned Jones? When kamaru usman was p4p no 1 same thing no one mentioned Jones but somehow when khabib and islam became p4p they bring jhon jones
Exactly. Dont worry their hate will consume them.
Most likely Juice Jones is about to come out of his cave and fight? No idea just guessing
Right????
Anyway- p4p #1 is Islam!
Finally someone gets it...adam is right p4p and GOAT are two different things. P4p is current and changes.
Goat also changes. Like it changed frok gsp to mighty mouse a couple of years ago
That is obvious man
Jon moved up in weight and dominated, that’s p4p. If Islam moves up 15 pounds and wins the belt then he can be in that conversation.
I agree with Adam Cateral and Nick Pete.. Jones is the GOAT for his record.. but as it stands right now Islam is the P4P #1..
Agree
GOAT with an *
The guy refusing to fight the number one contender, interim title holder(Tom Aspinall) in his division is NOT the P4P number one , i leave it at that.
The PFP debate was hilarious 😂
Honestly bisping doesnt even try not to sound like a company man. Straight up agrees with Dana and defends the UFC at all costs
Great performance by Islam
Bisping has gotta be on crack for defending Dana and Jon like that. Get some knee pads or something first
I love how Adam face is in absolute shock with Bisping!!
Is bisping not the one who called volk p4p 1 when islam fought him?
Bisping fighting to keep his job in UFC
If islam fighting 1 FW (who was n1 pfp) discredit him from pfp 1 then what is bisping saying about jon fighting bunch of middle weights?
Yea most of Jon Jones world championships where against MW moving up to LHW. That was BS by Bisping
Bisping is talking absolute BOLLOCKS re: P4P ranking
Bisping was out of his mind bro honestly speaking
Mike "the company man" Bisping
So for some folks It was ok for Volk to be the P4P king with Jon jones in the picture but not Makhachev
these lot were biased towards Dustin pre fight, glad Islam humbled them
Sorry Mike but the lads are right
Michael Bisping was making joke of himself 🤣
That CTE
Dustin poirier vs Max Holloway is an excellent idea for the BMF
Michael knows what he's doing 😂 this is basically a chat between 3 blokes in a pub. Loved it
I absolutely love it when the boys chat against Mike because he’s clueless
Adam and Nick, huge respect
Dont forget Leon Edwards got to beat Bilal first not a foregone conclusion imo
I believe belal wins..
@@Fitkid7672 I hope youre right, guy has waited a lifetime for this opportunity. Would be a great lift for the Palestinian people
If Jon Jones was truly P4P#1, he wouldn't have ducked Francis Ngannou before and be ducking Tom Aspinall now, Mr Bisping.
Massive *L* take sir.
Bisping is such a blatantly biased company man it's disgusting. This will be the demise of his youtube channel.
How does Bisping not understand what the pound for pound rankings mean
That fight was so satisfying to watch.
Islam fought with staph infection n he went for 5 rounds, talk about that too when everyone talked avoyt that before fight. Tell me if that is not p4P warrior he showed.. Beating the best boxer on a night with staph infection. V
Bisping do not want to upset Big Dana
Bisping towing the bosses line, jones arguably got beaten by gus, reyes and smith should have taken dq, plus the doping, nothing like that with Islam. P4p Islam Makhachev
P4P conversation made me laugh non-stop 😂😂😂😂
islam got so many tricks in his sleeves
He’s a smart fighter, not just skilled.
just imagine one ankle pick can destroy hopes & dreams
Its crazy how underated Islam is. And so many people hate on him and want him defeated while he is cleaning his division.
I absolutely love Adam Caterall!!
He’s like an English Jon anik
These guys DELIVER.
What did Islam do for Bisping hating on him? 😅
Calling a steroid user fighter goat is an insult to the MMA
To professional sports mate. It makes a mockery of sport itself
perfect thumbnail: fighters in the front and coaches in the back hugging it out.
Bisping please, stop
Dana owes Bisping a damn bonus and a raise after that hogwash he was trying to defend Dana’s stupid comments on Jones as P4P #1. I am not the biggest Islam fan but he is the P4P best in the world
Volk is 145 but he beats almost all 155
He’d struggle with the top 5 TBH. Volk is just too short & his frame for LW.
@Fitkid7672 he beat arman and olivera
Enjoyed the different opinions
Love these arguments 😅
Thanks for the video, TNT SPORTS
Bisping is so cringe. Get that tongue out of Dana's ring
😂😂😂
17:29 Another *L* take by Bisping. If Islam moves up he will be facing Leon Edwards, a good striker, but who is also ranked P4P#3 because he has good wrestling defense; a more complete fighter.
So now tell us where was Ciryl Gane ranked in the P4P rankings when Jon fought him? Jon waited for Francis to leave and returned to fight the easiest most incomplete fighter in the hw top 5. And now instead of unifying the title, he’s ducking Tom to fight semi-retired, fulltime firefighter grandpa Stipe.
GOATs/P4P👑s don't duck to fight elderly folks. 👎
There needs to be a movie about the 2 dagestanis much more interesting
A film about men and mountains 🤔😅
Adam is a real one 👍
Jones want to fight stipe is like islam want to fight eddie alvarez
Exactly i was thinking Herb Dean did ok by stopping that armbar. But after hearing Bisping, i agree with Bisping. Let the fighter decide if they tap and stop the fight or not.
The reason I loved this fight was both are elite level fighters but have adapted and improved their games , Dustin in defense and Islam on his feet
one thing that stayed true along the years is how much hate bisping have toward khabib's camp
Mike wtf are u on about jones was in the cage for 94 seconds since 2020
Lost so much respect for bisping here 😂😂 he doesn’t even believe what he’s saying. Wasn’t he saying Volk was P4P?
Mike, don't let them bully u son, on the P4P debate. It comes down to what factors u value more. For instance, the lads value Islam's activity more (since 2023 fighting twice a year over Jon's once a year) and u & others value more Jon's tried & tested skills at the highest level over a much longer period than the flavour of the month i.e there's no skill or attribute that Islam has shown, which Jon has put on display for longer & still going.
Adam is spot on
The P4P KING ISLAM MAKHACHEV
Τέτοιες εκπομπές θέλουμε τέτοια ανάλυση τέτοιο πάθος για την ενημέρωση και για αυτό που εκπροσωπεί μια ενημερωτική εκπομπή!!!!! ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΟΎΜΕ!!!!!!!
Did Bisping say Jones didn’t beat middleweights? Is he forgetting about Chael Sonnen, Vitor Belfort, Lyoto Machida and Rashad Evans?
Bisping is painful to listen to these days. Just a mouthpiece for Dana White.
Michael bisping and Dana White are talking nonsense. 😂
If journalists starts to stop luying they will see why Islam is so good
Mike admit your wrong so is Dana
Completely agree, goat != PFP king. With that logic, Jones would be P4P king as long as he's "active". Jones is the goat, Islam is the P4P king. End of discussion
Half of Jon’s wins were against fighters that did fight at middleweight. I’m not usually a big fan of Nick, but he’s spitting facts here.
Jon Jones is the “ goat “
But he’s not P4P
1. He avoided many fighters
2. Fought 1 time in 4yrs after docking Francis
3. He’s record is not clean with all the PEDs
4. And yes some of his wins were debatable eg (Dominick Reyes)
A P4P king is someone who says “yeah bring anyone on, I will take them” - Jones doesn’t do that
Dustin proved himself a legend with that amazing performance and truly took Islam to the very limits ! 💎🔥🇺🇲
Islam cemented his legacy with sublime skill and supreme focus
while overcoming adversity in a total war against the very best version of Dustin Poirier.
And to do it while suffering from Staph infection is testament to Islam being the best fighter in the world and truly the P4P King 👑☪️🏔⛰🗻🦅🦅
Bisping towing the company line. If Jon Jones beats Aspinal then he's the P4P no1. He's not even in the conversation for P4P while he's ducking Aspinall.
mike plzz stop plz 😅😅😅😅😅😅
We gotta find replacement for bisping, he is very annoying
Yeah he is at times.
Leon Edwards has thrice the grappling Gane has. Bisping talking crazy. Company man.
Love the idea of DP vs Hollaway BMF Title fight to end the Career.
BISPING HAS GONE MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone know how we watch this upcoming season of TUF in the UK please?? Cheers
What a great fight
Bisping is rediculous. Islam is clearly P4P number 1. What an absolute clown. Spitting with hate towards Islam and not making any sense whatsoever. What an absolute clown, he became a champ due to fluke and now is just Dana's lapdog on his payroll eager to repeat everything Dana says.
Stop ignoring the takedown threat for excellent striking
Stop talking about a particular aspect of mma in isolation. It’s MIXED martial arts, not itemised martial arts. The only way to discuss them is within the context of mma.
There’s no point saying a fighter’s striking would be better if it’s not for the takedown threat of his opponent.
Similarly, it’s a moot point to say a grappler would do better if his opponent is not allowed to strike.
The point is they’re meant to get mixed; and any discussion about them should be done while bearing in mind that they are mixed.