Dana White Declares Jon Jones P4P #1, NOT Makhachev

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  • @sawyerphillips9493
    @sawyerphillips9493 22 дні тому +422

    So Islam submits Oliveira, beats the former p4p #1 Volkanovski twice(one of those wins being a first-round KO), submits Dustin Poirier , and is now going to fight the number 1 contender Arman Tsarukyan who he already beat. But Jon Jones is the P4P #1 because he beat a French kickboxer with 12 fights, after he took 3 years off because he lost to Dominic Reyes who is now ranked #15 at LHW. Makes sense Dana

    • @johnt2831
      @johnt2831 22 дні тому +20

      Absolutely Jon Jones is number one.
      I get it though, all you racists want the great white hope to be on top.
      You talk about the guys who Islam has beaten, but take a good look at the guys that Jon Jones has beaten.
      They are far better than the guys who Islam beat.
      I think that Chael Sonnen is a sore loser because Jon Jones took it to him when they fought.
      Ciryl GaneChampionship Belt
      W
      Submission
      1 2:04 UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane
      Feb 8, 2020 Dominick ReyesChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      5 5:00 UFC 247: Jones vs. Reyes
      Jul 6, 2019 Thiago SantosChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Split
      5 5:00 UFC 239: Jones vs. Santos
      Mar 2, 2019 Anthony SmithChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      5 5:00 UFC 235: Jones vs. Smith
      Dec 29, 2018 Alexander GustafssonChampionship Belt
      W
      KO/TKO
      3 2:02 UFC 232: Jones vs. Gustafsson 2
      Jul 29, 2017 Daniel CormierChampionship Belt
      D
      No Contest
      3 3:01 UFC 214: Cormier vs. Jones 2
      Apr 23, 2016 Ovince Saint PreuxChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      5 5:00 UFC 197: Jones vs. Saint Preux
      Jan 3, 2015 Daniel CormierChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      5 5:00 UFC 182: Jones vs. Cormier
      Apr 26, 2014 Glover TeixeiraChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      5 5:00 UFC 172: Jones vs. Teixeira
      Sep 21, 2013 Alexander GustafssonChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      5 5:00 UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson
      Apr 27, 2013 Chael SonnenChampionship Belt
      W
      KO/TKO
      1 4:33 UFC 159: Jones vs. Sonnen
      Sep 22, 2012 Vitor BelfortChampionship Belt
      W
      Submission
      4 0:54 UFC 152: Jones vs. Belfort
      Apr 21, 2012 Rashad EvansChampionship Belt
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      5 5:00 UFC 145: Jones vs. Evans
      Dec 10, 2011 Lyoto MachidaChampionship Belt
      W
      Submission
      2 4:26 UFC 140: Jones vs. Machida
      Sep 24, 2011 Quinton JacksonChampionship Belt
      W
      Submission
      4 1:14 UFC 135: Jones vs. Rampage
      Mar 19, 2011 Mauricio RuaChampionship Belt
      W
      KO/TKO
      3 2:37 UFC 128: Shogun vs. Jones
      Feb 5, 2011 Ryan Bader
      W
      Submission
      2 4:20 UFC 126: Silva vs. Belfort
      Aug 1, 2010 Vladimir Matyushenko
      W
      KO/TKO
      1 1:52 UFC on Versus: Jones vs. Matyushenko
      Mar 21, 2010 Brandon Vera
      W
      KO/TKO
      1 3:19 UFC on Versus: Vera vs. Jones
      Dec 5, 2009 Matt Hamill
      L
      DQ
      1 4:14 The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale
      Jul 11, 2009 Jake O'Brien
      W
      Submission
      2 2:43 UFC 100: Lesnar vs. Mir 2
      Jan 31, 2009 Stephan Bonnar
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      3 5:00 UFC 94: St-Pierre vs. Penn 2
      Aug 9, 2008 Andre Gusmao
      W
      Decision - Unanimous
      3 5:00 UFC 87: Seek and Destroy
      Jul 12, 2008 Moyses Gabin

    • @kalegallarde6369
      @kalegallarde6369 22 дні тому

      ​@@johnt2831ok ape go eat a banana leave mma to the intelligent people who use logic

    • @andrewsarinas1180
      @andrewsarinas1180 22 дні тому +10

      ​@@johnt2831 one of the dumbest takes I've read. Also, great white hope? Do you know who Islam is buddy? If anything the American Jon Jones is where support would go vs the racism against the Muslim dagestani.

    • @ZootedMMA
      @ZootedMMA 22 дні тому +99

      @@johnt2831we’re talking about the CURRENT p4p fighter, not 8 years ago. Jon Jones isn’t on the sauce anymore and it’s obvious. Would the p4p best fighter be ducking Tom Aspinall? Islam is consistently fighting every year and he has a lot more current evidence for being the pound for pound best fighter in the world. You are biased

    • @ZootedMMA
      @ZootedMMA 22 дні тому

      @@johnt2831and you can’t put the Dominic Reyes fight as a good win when he’s lost how many fights in a row after? He arguably beat your p4p fighter in the world and then went on to lose multiple times in a row 😂 Anthony Smith? Did you seriously put that fight down as evidence 😂 you’re a clown

  • @michaelsanders7484
    @michaelsanders7484 22 дні тому +210

    Why are they always trying to take Islams P4P. He beats Volk “the lightweight on the line, the P4P let’s do it”… and Volk stays P4P even after the loss. And now this trash. The UFC does not like Islam.

    • @tickledeggz
      @tickledeggz 22 дні тому

      I love the sentences that Makachevs name causes. Out of context its amazing. "The UFC does not like Islam"

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 22 дні тому +4

      Because he's a bum that lays n prays on the most striker packed division. Nobody is impressed

    • @haxed_3613
      @haxed_3613 22 дні тому +41

      ​@@HugoStiglitz88Cry casual

    • @carterpayte9463
      @carterpayte9463 22 дні тому +12

      @@HugoStiglitz88cmon man

    • @michaelsanders7484
      @michaelsanders7484 22 дні тому +22

      @@HugoStiglitz88 really? Is that why all of his recent PPVs have made a ton of money? Is that why he has a huge following on social media? Sounds like you don’t know how to tell the difference between YOUR opinion and reality.

  • @koalawithchaingun53
    @koalawithchaingun53 22 дні тому +175

    Dana didn’t have none of that energy when Volk or Usman were P4P 🍅

    • @johnt2831
      @johnt2831 22 дні тому +1

      Are they unbeaten like Jones?
      No they aren't.

    • @ZootedMMA
      @ZootedMMA 22 дні тому +28

      @@johnt2831 Jones arguably lost to Dominick Reyes who is on a 4 fight losing streak and Thiago Santos who was 1-6 in the UFC after losing a split decision to your “unbeaten GOAT”

    • @avishai827
      @avishai827 22 дні тому +5

      jones was inactive when volk and usman were 1# p4p

    • @johnt2831
      @johnt2831 22 дні тому +2

      @@avishai827 Inactive.
      And Islam was also inactive.

    • @drhsn5271
      @drhsn5271 22 дні тому +11

      ​@@johnt2831islam didnt have an opponent calling out to him like aspinal is to jones. Especially considering jones's rediculous submission against the only heavyweight that can't wrestle.

  • @BotvsBots
    @BotvsBots 22 дні тому +195

    Dana just trying to keep Jon on the roster lol

    • @jorgebolanos4420
      @jorgebolanos4420 21 день тому

      Dana is Jones gay lover... its simple as that

    • @jasonnotes7566
      @jasonnotes7566 21 день тому

      He’s stating facts lmao have you seen Jones resume ? He’s still an active fighter. There’s literally no question who the real p4p is. It’s Jones until he retires.

    • @thelastgalvanizer
      @thelastgalvanizer 21 день тому

      @@jasonnotes7566 What facts, dude, like wtf are you even on about? P4P means the best fighter today, it's not the same thing as the GOAT list. In the last couple years Islam has taken the belt from Oliveira who was P4P #3, then beat Volk twice (#1 and #2 at that time), and just beat Dustin who's a pretty solid contender for the greatest UFC fighter that was never crowned the undisputed champ. What did Jones do in the same timeframe? Oh wow, he dominated Cyril Gane, color me impressed. Cyril Gane, who never was and probably never will be a champ. Jones may be the GOAT in many people's eyes, but he's nowhere near being the best fighter right now.

    • @jasonnotes7566
      @jasonnotes7566 21 день тому

      @@thelastgalvanizer p4p doesn’t mean best fighter today. It means pound for pound best fighter lmao wow you’re new to this. Jones is still active. Therefore even if it was “today” he’s still #1. Lmao
      He becomes NOT AN ACTIVE FIGHTER when he retires. Bro your opinion differs from dana white the ufc president. He’s the literal president of the thing and he said Jones is the p4p. Just deal with it. Stop making things up like p4p means today. All it means is p4p.

    • @jasonnotes7566
      @jasonnotes7566 21 день тому

      @@thelastgalvanizer “in the last couple of years” that’s not what P4P means. Lmao I’m done here

  • @hhfarms3084
    @hhfarms3084 22 дні тому +68

    There might be 7-8 Hall of famers at 155 active right now never really been like that at the heavier weights

  • @yukihanna6519
    @yukihanna6519 22 дні тому +123

    Islam is actively fighting in the most competitive division in MMA and Jon is doing everything he can to avoid fighting his division interim champion. Jon atm at best is a has been champion.

    • @CRT4Dummies
      @CRT4Dummies 22 дні тому +14

      jones hasn't been relevant in over 5 years now. he has been a semi retired side show for awhile now.

    • @jondanks6790
      @jondanks6790 22 дні тому

      Jones would smash islam. Enough said.

    • @BlackGeniusGod
      @BlackGeniusGod 22 дні тому +4

      Islam is earning his stripes, Jon jones is already a legend. No comparison

    • @jondanks6790
      @jondanks6790 22 дні тому +2

      @@BlackGeniusGod cant disagree eith that.

    • @R0R0N0A-Z0R0
      @R0R0N0A-Z0R0 22 дні тому +5

      ​@BlackGeniusGod
      P4P is for activity
      Goat is for legacy
      Jons is a goat but not a p4p atm. Compare Islam's resume vs Jons in the past 4 years, thats how you check p4p.
      Thats why Khabib and GSP are no longer on the p4p, they are inactive/retired.

  • @TheRealBrillski
    @TheRealBrillski 22 дні тому +72

    Jon Jones lost to Dominik Reyes and almost lost against Thiago Santos who was on one leg after the second round. Jon also popped for peds on multiple occasions, fought way older guys who were much smaller than him and has fought twice since 2020. Jon is not the goat.

    • @DarkLight-Ascending
      @DarkLight-Ascending 22 дні тому +2

      Say it to Jon's face.

    • @carterpayte9463
      @carterpayte9463 22 дні тому +7

      @@DarkLight-Ascendingwhat is he gonna do hit me?

    • @DarkLight-Ascending
      @DarkLight-Ascending 22 дні тому +1

      @@carterpayte9463 one more charge ain't gonna hurt anything. 😂

    • @carterpayte9463
      @carterpayte9463 22 дні тому +10

      @@DarkLight-Ascending I mean it will hurt his bank account, considering I would sue him for a shit load of money..

    • @DarkLight-Ascending
      @DarkLight-Ascending 22 дні тому

      @@carterpayte9463 one more won't hurt... get ya lawyer ready

  • @Kroants
    @Kroants 22 дні тому +55

    Chael you should call up Dana and tell him the real P4P #1 is named Chael Sonnen.

  • @KZ_MMA_
    @KZ_MMA_ 22 дні тому +70

    Jon Jones ducks the legit #1 contender and Interim Champion to fight an old man coming off of a knockout loss, that hasn't won since he beat Daniel Cormier in 2020, because he's terrified of having a fair fight where he doesn't hold some kind of advantage. Whether it's a reach advantage, grappling advantage, or youth advantage. Jon needs to hold some sort of advantage in order to fight someone.

    • @SK-kp2qq
      @SK-kp2qq 22 дні тому +1

      Not p4p mentality
      💅 🌈

    • @TomAustinIII
      @TomAustinIII 22 дні тому

      Stipe is proven. The reason Stipe got ko'd is because he taught Francis Ngannou how to fight

    • @TomAustinIII
      @TomAustinIII 22 дні тому

      ​@@SK-kp2qqStipe is better than Aspinall

    • @SK-kp2qq
      @SK-kp2qq 22 дні тому +1

      @@TomAustinIII oh you 💅🌈🍆🍑 too nvm

    • @jonharker9028
      @jonharker9028 21 день тому

      who the hell says Stipe is better now? man’s been retired and living life as a firefighter for three, four years or something! it’s a demanding job but it’s not MMA - and Stipe hasn’t been keeping up with the new kids like Randy Couture did when Randy got his last belt and made his last title defence.
      this Jones vs Miocic mess is not gonna be the money fight people think it is - nobody has cared about Stipe or Jones since 2020, fully four years ago. and no, Gane vs Jones didn’t count.
      but Dana still wants Jones’ name on that list. madness.

  • @suj1201
    @suj1201 22 дні тому +10

    The best HW in the world was Francis. Jon didn’t fight him. Jon didn’t even fight Tom Aspinall. He defeated a 1-1 guy who has a clear wrestling deficiency.

  • @suj1201
    @suj1201 22 дні тому +12

    Jon Jones had one good win in 5 years. 🤷‍♂️
    Islam has finished 7 of his last 8 in the deepest division. He’s easily the most active, dominant champion in the UFC currently. If we’re talking GOAT, it’s Jon. But p4p, it’s gotta be Islam. Heck, his previous 3 wins were against fighters in Top5 pound for pound.

  • @Gockus
    @Gockus 22 дні тому +80

    Dana just ensured the P4P list is as useless as most of us already thought!

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 22 дні тому

      Not most, only dummies who actually believe Jones is that good 😂😂😂

    • @Gockus
      @Gockus 22 дні тому +2

      @@HugoStiglitz88 are you the #1 P4P gigolo

    • @Muhammad_The_Goat_Ali
      @Muhammad_The_Goat_Ali 22 дні тому

      Really? Joe Rogan is dummy? Khabib father is dummy? Paddy pimblett khabib gsp Demetrius Johnson all of these fighters and mma experts call Jones the goat what are you on?@@HugoStiglitz88

    • @angelbedolla347
      @angelbedolla347 22 дні тому

      If you meat ride Dana sure. If you don’t give a fuck about his flip flop opinions then no.

    • @user-ct8tc2dd9v
      @user-ct8tc2dd9v 22 дні тому

      @@HugoStiglitz88 it's always funny when the idiot in the room is calling people dummies. New to mma buddy?

  • @gongazi
    @gongazi 22 дні тому +82

    I don't allow known drug cheats on my personal P4P list

    • @lucavlasceanu6628
      @lucavlasceanu6628 22 дні тому

      So Leon edwards is your pfp #1 then?

    • @DaBlaccGhost
      @DaBlaccGhost 22 дні тому

      Would have to take a lot off your list every time they update the banned substance lists my guy.

    • @darklight8338
      @darklight8338 22 дні тому +3

      ​@@DaBlaccGhostthat doesn't count its those who carry on using after a substance has been banned and have been caught for it.

    • @RealmOfPlagues
      @RealmOfPlagues 21 день тому

      No Islam then

    • @jasonnotes7566
      @jasonnotes7566 21 день тому

      Imagine thinking you can make it to the ufc without enhancements. They’re called performance enhancing enhancing for a reason, Dum dum

  • @brockd1218
    @brockd1218 22 дні тому +55

    Dana is a clown for that

  • @xrystiang8923
    @xrystiang8923 22 дні тому +18

    Jon Jones is blackmailing Dana... its pretty obvious at this point... i just want to know what hes got on him...

    • @carterpayte9463
      @carterpayte9463 22 дні тому +9

      It’s disgustingly obvious. Dude has never liked jones and now acts like he can do no wrong.

  • @jaybeezy4843
    @jaybeezy4843 22 дні тому +31

    Them picograms disqualify jones from p4p and goat

    • @jasonnotes7566
      @jasonnotes7566 21 день тому

      This isn’t cycling lmao this is the fight game.

    • @jaybeezy4843
      @jaybeezy4843 21 день тому +1

      @jasonnotes7566 correct. And the rules of the fight game are no peds

    • @goodfellas1001
      @goodfellas1001 21 день тому

      ​@@jasonnotes7566ha cycling would be a better sport to cheat... Not a life threatening support that could leave fighters missing eyes and paralyzed...

    • @jasonnotes7566
      @jasonnotes7566 21 день тому

      @@goodfellas1001 buddy I’m not sure if you’ve notice but they’re all on juice. Lmao. It’s the fight game. They’re called performance enhancing drugs for a reason. They’re all on them lmao.

    • @jaybeezy4843
      @jaybeezy4843 21 день тому

      @jasonnotes7566 not all. And if you're OK with ped cheating where does it stop? Should eye gouges be overlooked too? And do you really want to see your favorite fighter get "ko'd" by a kick to the balls? What about biting and pulling hair? If you're OK with cheating then all cheating should be allowed

  • @KZ_MMA_
    @KZ_MMA_ 22 дні тому +71

    Jon Jones is ducking Tom Aspinall because he's terrified of a fair fight against someone his size that can grapple

    • @diamondlife8086
      @diamondlife8086 22 дні тому +9

      Not only can he grapple an elite level but he’s faster, bigger, stronger, and hits harder

    • @johnt2831
      @johnt2831 22 дні тому +3

      Yeah, I know that you would love to believe that.

    • @jorgepereira1042
      @jorgepereira1042 22 дні тому

      But how stupid to say that Jon never had a fair fight in his life, I also don't like Jon not fighting Tom but I completely understand why, if you are forgotten why don't you go see Jon's fights and who he fought against and at his age he had when he became champion

    • @TomAustinIII
      @TomAustinIII 22 дні тому +5

      Stipe Miocic has knocked out Daniel Cormier and dominated Francis Ngannou. Those two wins are bigger than anything Aspinall has ever done.

    • @jorgepereira1042
      @jorgepereira1042 22 дні тому +2

      @@TomAustinIII It's true, people have very short memories or many haven't followed the sport for a long time, and I think it's funny that most people think that Jon will easily overtake Stive, I believe that Jon wins but Stive will do everything he can to win, and as you know anything can happen

  • @wildmtfarm
    @wildmtfarm 22 дні тому +11

    Hasn’t Jones been caught using steroids in his career? If so, then P4P shouldn’t be on the table for him…just my humble opinion

  • @flynnwalker5737
    @flynnwalker5737 22 дні тому +17

    Dana lives in his own little world and ignores absolutely everything said on his entire broadcasts by other fighters, commentators and says “no, you are all wrong”

    • @jasonnotes7566
      @jasonnotes7566 21 день тому

      It’s not about others opinions. It’s about facts. Jones is the goat and p4p until he retires. Most title defences. He’s still active, you can’t take him off the p4p til he retires.

  • @AintFredoYou
    @AintFredoYou 22 дні тому +12

    There’s an old clip of Khabib and he mentions Jon cannot be P4P if he popped for steroids. Can’t remember or find it but I remember seeing it back in the day

    • @gcoffey223
      @gcoffey223 22 дні тому +6

      DC had the same take. I agree

  • @blairh6408
    @blairh6408 22 дні тому +24

    Nah, test hot (twice) for ped's and you are disqualified from P4P. BUT I guess since DEI is more important than ability these days I can see why people would consider him as such.. lmfao.

    • @DaBlaccGhost
      @DaBlaccGhost 22 дні тому +1

      Wtf does DEI have to do between Jon and Islam?! 😂
      I don't think you know what you're talking about.

    • @TrionBulldog
      @TrionBulldog 21 день тому +1

      @@DaBlaccGhost What? Black American vs pale-skinned Russian. Are you blind?

  • @AiDMostar
    @AiDMostar 22 дні тому +12

    This is like saying Michael Jordan is mvp this season or with dana whites logic lebron james should be mvp every year until he retires

    • @ZootedMMA
      @ZootedMMA 22 дні тому +1

      Good point

    • @JayLee-od8ob
      @JayLee-od8ob 22 дні тому

      Not the same. Jon is still considered an active fighter. If Michael Jordan was active you know he'd have it

    • @AiDMostar
      @AiDMostar 21 день тому +4

      @@JayLee-od8ob as is lebron james

    • @juz0973
      @juz0973 21 день тому +4

      @@JayLee-od8objon jones active ? 😂 has 2 fights since 2020 and the interim champ is about to get a title defense before Jones

    • @JayLee-od8ob
      @JayLee-od8ob 21 день тому

      @@juz0973 maybe you should re read the comment again

  • @tilsker7561
    @tilsker7561 22 дні тому +84

    Jon Jones is the Drake of the UFC

    • @mattr27
      @mattr27 22 дні тому +23

      Spot on. Both are put on a pedestal and defended by armies of casuals. They are also 🌈

    • @John_Fury
      @John_Fury 22 дні тому +1

      Fr we all know Strickland is the goat, 32-3 if you take away his robberies ​@@mattr27

    • @FirmlyGrasp_IT
      @FirmlyGrasp_IT 22 дні тому +3

      Best Jon Jones is actually good tho, that's the difference

    • @dwill2187
      @dwill2187 22 дні тому

      ​@@mattr27The similarities don't stop there.. Both are considered #1 for different reasons but they have used cheating to obtain and keep their success (ghostwriting with Drake, PEDs for Jon)

    • @dwill2187
      @dwill2187 22 дні тому +5

      ​@@mattr27The similarities don't stop there.. Both are at the top of their careers for different reasons but have used some cheap methods to get and maintain their success (Drake with ghostwriting, Jon and PEDs)

  • @xkidmidnightx
    @xkidmidnightx 22 дні тому +9

    Any of the top 300 guys in 155 is better than anyone at lhw and heavyweight.

  • @4.6lexus83
    @4.6lexus83 22 дні тому +8

    Jon Jones is a top level fighter as is Islam but right now Islam is P4P in the UFC.

    • @Lucasvalet
      @Lucasvalet 22 дні тому +1

      The guy has ONE title defense against an actual 155er

    • @user-ws4ep8bf7v
      @user-ws4ep8bf7v 22 дні тому +5

      ​@@Lucasvaletthat 145er Beat half of 155ers
      Plus he Beat charles volk poirier his streak is impressive
      While jones fighting guy with 0 ground game

    • @profinneupane6883
      @profinneupane6883 21 день тому +2

      @@Lucasvaletnot his fault everyone keeps pulling out, RDA, Dariush, Charles and Gamrot got injured

    • @Lucasvalet
      @Lucasvalet 21 день тому

      @@user-ws4ep8bf7v Jones beat 3 generations of LHW, had 13 title defenses, 16 title fights, champion in 2 divisions.
      Jones is the GOAT, Islam is not even close to him.

  • @Ekryth1
    @Ekryth1 22 дні тому +6

    I was confused when Dana kept saying Jones beat the best HW. He never fought Francis or Stipe. 😅

    • @LazPH
      @LazPH 20 днів тому

      Dude wake up. How can he fight Ngannou if he didnt sign and left the ufc only to be knocked out by Anthony Joshua

  • @alfiashaikh9228
    @alfiashaikh9228 22 дні тому +3

    Islam confirmed he had staph going into the fight. Staph infections can turn deadly if the bacteria invade deeper into the body or enters the bloodstream resulting in fever, joint and muscle pain this is why he didn't throw a single kick in the entire fight + didn't even use his judo once. When Benoit lost to dustin he said it was because of staph but Islam prevailed even when he had staph🎉 amazing man❤
    It's shameful of Dana to say Islam ain't p4p after such a performance and say jones , a guy who had to takes peds, eyepokes and kneekicks to win fights should be p4p.

  • @idirzham1063
    @idirzham1063 22 дні тому +4

    one is 8.0 in this decade and the other needs to tweet after each card to stay remembered

  • @FizzSix
    @FizzSix 22 дні тому +7

    One of Dana worst takes yet and makes him look like a jack-ass… it’s obvious at this point (if it wasn’t already) that Makhachev is the true P4P. Tremendous disrespect to Islam. Jones has fought 1x in the last 4 years against Gane who is overrated AF - and between the PEDs and scandals, he’s not even in my top-5… one of the 🐐, certainly… not P4P

  • @Ilikethis777
    @Ilikethis777 22 дні тому +7

    here the things
    Jon is pfp best fighter of all time
    But makhacev is current now
    He is pfp for world now

    • @gcoffey223
      @gcoffey223 22 дні тому +3

      Cheaters aren't goats.

    • @informativecontent4778
      @informativecontent4778 22 дні тому

      Jones is a roid user he can't be in goat conversation
      Gsp can be
      Mickie can be
      Khabib and Islam can be not the one who's abused a drug multiple times for unfair advantages

  • @user-gx4ky6ct8c
    @user-gx4ky6ct8c 22 дні тому +9

    I always thought the "pound for pound" title was a nice thing you did for a little guy who happens to be a great fighter.

    • @ligance
      @ligance 22 дні тому +1

      Fedor, Silva, GSP, Jones are not what I'd call little guys

    • @TheFrozenOne777
      @TheFrozenOne777 22 дні тому

      ​​​​@@ligance what he is saying is the little guys get folded by the likes of those whom you just mentioned. P4P is more of a measure of skill and dominance at a given weight class in comparison to all the weight classes overall without considering size and weight. The ones that have those things and are also bigger are obviously going to win if matched up with smaller champs.

    • @user-gx4ky6ct8c
      @user-gx4ky6ct8c 22 дні тому

      @@ligance True, but the only time I ever hear the "pound for pound" thing used is when little guys are in the discussion.

  • @boztos6025
    @boztos6025 22 дні тому +4

    Jones is the Duck of the UFC-as in, he does nothing but duck Tom Aspinall.

  • @_Flow_.
    @_Flow_. 22 дні тому +3

    Reporter shouldve said “cirly gane best heavyweight, really?”

  • @HonestTherapist
    @HonestTherapist 22 дні тому +6

    Islam’s P4P right now on the rankings. 😂😂

  • @tenseventy49
    @tenseventy49 21 день тому +1

    The question to Dana wasn't even about PVP, it was how Dana compared Islam to other light weights. Dana just went on a Jon Jones rant for unknown reasons.

  • @Nickfor20
    @Nickfor20 22 дні тому +3

    “Jon shows that competitor inside” on twitter chael… on twitter

  • @ummmok2042
    @ummmok2042 21 день тому +1

    You wanna talk about “the competitor in Jon”. Last I checked, Islam didn’t hesitate to say yes to volk after Charles dropped out. When Dan Henderson dropped out against Jon, Jon refused to fight a certain Chael sonnen, who was taking the fight on 2 weeks notice. That’s the difference between Jon and Islam.

  • @Chaka2225
    @Chaka2225 22 дні тому +3

    So Stipe V Jon is still on? Can we expect them to fight before 2030?

  • @firstnamelastname9444
    @firstnamelastname9444 22 дні тому +4

    Of course it’s Jon, we have to hype up his next fight against a geriatric.

  • @suj1201
    @suj1201 22 дні тому +1

    Was this a 7 minute segment on how Dana’s opinion was dumb? If so, then bravo… 👏👏

  • @Brahim0801
    @Brahim0801 19 днів тому +1

    Jon obviously got some dirt on Dana and i wouldn't be surprised if Dana said that because Jon told him to do so

  • @HugoStiglitz88
    @HugoStiglitz88 22 дні тому +1

    Jones was never p4p #1. P4p is about skills and none of the higher weight fighters would be shit if flyweights and them were equalized in size somehow
    , and then had to fight them. DJ would've smoked cocaine Jones easily.

  • @ZhanValzhan175
    @ZhanValzhan175 21 день тому +1

    Champions must defend their belts against best contenders. This is the base principle. The fact that John will defend his belt against Stipe having on the line Tom is absolutely ridiculous!
    Dana forgot to mention John's close fights with Gustafson(first fight), Santos and Reyes. Also John had that dirty story with dopping. We are witnessing the biggest Dana Wight's privilege.

  • @truthseeker96
    @truthseeker96 22 дні тому +1

    Lets see Jones wins since 2020:
    - Controversial win against Santos
    - A win against Cyril Gane who's not the champion and not ranked in p4p list
    Lets see Islam wins since 2020:
    - 8 consecutive wins
    - 7 finishes
    - Beat #3, #1, #2 p4p consecutively
    I reckon It's clear who deserves #1p4p

  • @edinpandzic5838
    @edinpandzic5838 22 дні тому +19

    honestly its a joke to call pictogram #1 p4p

    • @DarkLight-Ascending
      @DarkLight-Ascending 22 дні тому

      Ur face is a joke....
      But we were all nice enuff to not say anything.

    • @jonkalv7808
      @jonkalv7808 22 дні тому

      Over IVlam?

    • @user-ct8tc2dd9v
      @user-ct8tc2dd9v 22 дні тому

      no, it isn't.

    • @gcoffey223
      @gcoffey223 22 дні тому +3

      ​@jonkalv7808
      IV vs steroids? If you woukd disqualify Islam for alleged IV use, no question you would disqualify Jones for multiple failed steroid tests right?

  • @darkhelmet8214
    @darkhelmet8214 21 день тому

    I don't think Jon's ego will allow him to retire of he beats Stipe. I think his motivation to be known as the GOAT by the MMA fanbase will push him into fighting Aspinall. It seems like it really does drive Jon insane if anybody else is mentioned as the P4P #1

  • @DwadeFL4SHMV3
    @DwadeFL4SHMV3 22 дні тому +1

    Pfp list and goat list are two separate things….

  • @eddyguevara7243
    @eddyguevara7243 22 дні тому +2

    islam beat the pound for pound champion ….. twice …. and submitted two blackbelt hall of famers

  • @Razear
    @Razear 22 дні тому +4

    Based on activity, Islam is more deserving of the ranking, but Islam's résumé doesn't hold a candle to Jon's. He's still got a lot of work to do to reach that level of rarefied air.

    • @danaseeinghowthisthingplay1904
      @danaseeinghowthisthingplay1904 22 дні тому

      Fair comment

    • @danielwhirley6779
      @danielwhirley6779 22 дні тому

      Finally a person with a fucking brain

    • @CRT4Dummies
      @CRT4Dummies 22 дні тому +7

      that resume full of over the hill one dimensional middleweights and gifted decisions.
      yeah that resume is sooooo impressive😂

    • @carterpayte9463
      @carterpayte9463 22 дні тому +10

      I mean obviously Jon has a more extensive body of work but this 4 fight run is better than any 4 fight run Jon has ever had

    • @CRT4Dummies
      @CRT4Dummies 22 дні тому

      @@carterpayte9463 well said

  • @bdot9844
    @bdot9844 21 день тому

    It was just weird because the question asked to Dana is where Islam ranks among other lightweight champions all time and Dana just started ranting about Jon jones and pound for pound rankings.

  • @Kroket487
    @Kroket487 18 днів тому

    My question is: How many elite wrestlers Khabib and Islam have faced on their career, and on the other hand, how lucky they were to face mostly strikers, does it make them pound for pound fighter. I woud not say that. It's not impressive to beat someone if they lack this area. Run over 10 well rounded fighters in a row. This would be impressive.

  • @user-dk7jx8io4t
    @user-dk7jx8io4t 22 дні тому +1

    Chael posts then I watch, it’s that simple

  • @user-uv9oy1qp5m
    @user-uv9oy1qp5m 21 день тому

    It’s crazy how so few hold Jones cheating pretty much his entire career against him. Failed 2-3 tests and no way those were the only times . Already has a huge reach advantage over all his opponents

  • @Smoshylife
    @Smoshylife 20 днів тому

    8 wins (7 finishes) vs 1 win in 3 years

  • @CarlosGarcia-lx5he
    @CarlosGarcia-lx5he 21 день тому

    Sometimes i fell like uncle chael is the biggest Jon Jones fan ever

  • @sock6567
    @sock6567 22 дні тому

    The cuts are getting slightly better but you won’t be UA-cam pfp until you return to old format completely. Do em all on the treadmill

  • @ProbablyLast
    @ProbablyLast 22 дні тому +1

    Dana needs to sell that Jon Jones vs random senior citizen fight somehow.

  • @adamlauer1096
    @adamlauer1096 22 дні тому

    Wait did Ray Lenord really say that?

  • @BabyHarpSeal69
    @BabyHarpSeal69 22 дні тому +1

    Jones lost to Chael, Gustafsson, Santos, and Reyes

  • @lukecrafford6544
    @lukecrafford6544 21 день тому

    I wish we could go back to the original UFC rules just one more time and settle this for good. No weight classes and no rules just pure fighting I bet jon would be the only one walking outta the octagon

  • @Shimbywastaken
    @Shimbywastaken 22 дні тому

    Tell you what Jon, if you beat Stipe then come out and beat Tom Aspinall you can be no.1 p4p again. Until then go back to holding up a division while being a Twitter warrior Monday through sunday

  • @sarah42e
    @sarah42e 21 день тому

    So this is basically Bisping video talking about the same topic but with longer unconfortable pauses between lines.

  • @jakenewman1627
    @jakenewman1627 22 дні тому

    Dana is trying to sell Jon jones because he knows about all the backlash on him fighting stipe and ducking Tom aspinall. He didn’t go up to heavyweight when DC was a heavyweight he said no way would he give Daniel that advantage because Daniel was a better heavyweight, he didn’t go up for Francis, Francis leaves he goes up and now he dodges the current interim champ

  • @LichanosChannel
    @LichanosChannel 21 день тому

    Quite right. Ariels P4P list was a joke

  • @Randleplex
    @Randleplex 22 дні тому

    Even though I disagree with Dana, this is what makes him the best promoter in the world. He knows majority of fans want to see Jon vs Aspinall, but he can't make Jon take a fight he doesn't want. Dana will take that lemon and make the best lemonade he can.

  • @user-rz5ew1sp7s
    @user-rz5ew1sp7s 22 дні тому

    That was a really bizarre out of the blue rant about JJ from Dana, that noone asked for. Why is he so defensive of the guy who's openly ducking the interim champ, even when nobody is attacking the guy? Its very sus. As a promoter you probably should let the journalists and fans argue about that, not start arguing about it for no reason. Really weird.

  • @diamondlife8086
    @diamondlife8086 22 дні тому

    “Dana does not show up to those press conferences to do pr, to do a spin”. Lmao. Whatever you say Chael 😂😂😂

  • @DaHxiBeSeRk
    @DaHxiBeSeRk 22 дні тому

    Every fighter headlining a future PPV card is the nimber 1 P4P in Dana's promoters eyes. Always had been always will be. If he was askee who the #1 p4p was before Saturday night he would have said Islam to sell more ppv

  • @thejoshandcharles1
    @thejoshandcharles1 22 дні тому

    Dana can say what he likes. We know the truth. Cheal Sonnen. Never lost a round.

  • @angelbedolla347
    @angelbedolla347 22 дні тому

    Jj has fought Once since he started talking about P4P comparison’s.

  • @simonevans5562
    @simonevans5562 15 днів тому

    Reporter ask Dana about the best lightweight of all time and he blows up about Jon Jones. Lmao that how was that even related to the question? Dana, get Jones out of your throat already

  • @stumpnugz6530
    @stumpnugz6530 22 дні тому

    Sometimes the answer to why are you still doing this is simply “its all i know”

  • @TomAustinIII
    @TomAustinIII 22 дні тому

    Jon is fighting against the greatest heavyweight of all time. Stipe Miocic has knocked out Daniel Cormier and dominated Francis Ngannou. He is 3-2 against Daniel Cormier and Francis Ngannou. He has a knockout where he was walking backwards. Stipe Miocic is better than Aspinall

    • @ZootedMMA
      @ZootedMMA 22 дні тому

      Ofc Stipe is better than Aspinall all time. But Aspinall is obviously the better fighter right now, its not even a debate

  • @simonlee498
    @simonlee498 21 день тому

    The promoter Dana is promoting Jones for the stipe fight he knows one of his golden gooses is leaving

  • @brokenclavicle
    @brokenclavicle 22 дні тому +1

    Jones at this point is factually irrelevant.

  • @petion2013
    @petion2013 22 дні тому

    Dana was just promoting the Jon/Stipe fight

  • @omarnieves2030
    @omarnieves2030 19 днів тому

    Jones is the pnp. Beat up and comers, cleaned out division, had rematches, beat Legends, beat future, current and past champions,, never took a legit loss. Champ champ status. Would beat ngannou easily would just take him down and submit him. Jones is the best

  • @joshbrady7250
    @joshbrady7250 21 день тому

    They should grapple and see who wins is pure grappling

  • @jomama6122
    @jomama6122 21 день тому

    Ciryl gane is the best heavyweight in the world?

  • @OMalley1203
    @OMalley1203 21 день тому

    Why didn’t he say this shit about Usman or Volk?

  • @MultiBearsfan54
    @MultiBearsfan54 22 дні тому

    Jon hasn’t lost once in 15 title fights end of discussion 😂
    From December 29th, 2018 to February 8th 2020 Jon fought;
    Alexander Gustafson
    Alex Smith
    Thiago Santos
    Dominick Reyes
    In a 406 day period.
    Recency bias is so strong lol.

  • @BenjaminLilienfeld
    @BenjaminLilienfeld 22 дні тому +1

    Glad to see Makhachev is still #1 P4P!
    Pump up Makhachev or Nurmagomedov to a Heavyweight and they would obliterate Jon Jones.
    GOAT till now is JonJones though.

  • @puvannnaidu1012
    @puvannnaidu1012 22 дні тому +1

    give me free t shirt unc chael

  • @shanahregguinti188
    @shanahregguinti188 22 дні тому

    I'm a newish mma fan and I really only seen like 3 of Jon Jones fights. From my perspective as a newish fan Islam seems to be the Guy.

  • @MrUnknown-vu6rd
    @MrUnknown-vu6rd 21 день тому

    Dana is the boos his decision is ultimate, he may put cornor macgregor no. 1 p4p. It is what it is, if you don't know now you know

  • @marksoutofzen
    @marksoutofzen 22 дні тому

    No drug user is a GOAT. But I understand as takes one to know one?

  • @nikko2thep
    @nikko2thep 22 дні тому

    Jon just needs to fight.

  • @meeee214
    @meeee214 22 дні тому

    Dana told no lies.

  • @donaldalexander3555
    @donaldalexander3555 22 дні тому

    Jones hasn’t been good in a decade. His only good performance was the second Gus fight, which coincidentally is the last time he had the “pictogams” in his system and they still let him fight. Even with the picos, he didn’t do anything that special because Anthony Smith did basically the same thing to Gus around that time.

  • @meeee214
    @meeee214 22 дні тому

    All these ppl of people trying to discredit Jon is weirdo behavior by people who’s entire identity is on twitter and have zero real accomplishments

  • @robperez5444
    @robperez5444 22 дні тому

    JJ hasn't been the best for a while now. At 205 Gustafson 1 and Reyes clearly beat him. And he didn't look good against one legged Tiago Santos too.
    But at HW Francis was the best and JJ was hiding from him for 3 years till Ngannou left the UFC. And now JJ is openly ducks Aspinal, who clearly is the best. He is not P4P, he used to be the best at 205 a long time ago.

  • @backabeyond
    @backabeyond 22 дні тому

    I don’t know why they keep screwing Islam for P4P, but I also don’t know why people waste so much energy complaining about it. Does it change anything if he’s on top?

  • @TheLawDog84
    @TheLawDog84 21 день тому

    I don't think Jon Jones is in the top three P4P rankings.

  • @syzygy9681
    @syzygy9681 22 дні тому

    In 2024 Jon is absolutely not P4P #1 and he’s definitely not the GOAT but he is the best light heavyweight in my opinion

  • @YODAJJ
    @YODAJJ 22 дні тому

    The question wasn’t even about whether Islam was the P4P..go back and listen to the question..it was whether he thought Islam is one of the greatest LW of all time..Dana changed the topic and went on a rant out of the blue

  • @keithdavidgovender
    @keithdavidgovender 22 дні тому

    John Jones and Conor aint coming back Dhana

  • @THUGLICIOUSNESS
    @THUGLICIOUSNESS 21 день тому

    Chael watches guru

  • @chaskadaska4811
    @chaskadaska4811 22 дні тому

    P4p mean skills
    Who is best in
    1) striking..... Jon vs reyes, jon vs gustaffson 1..... Islam vs porier .... Volk .... Olivera 😂 no comparison
    2) grappling.... Of course islam
    3) wrestling.... Dagestani style is the king style in MMA currently
    I didn't see anywhere jon can beat islam
    Even in records

  • @weroliera
    @weroliera 22 дні тому

    Brett okomoto needs to lay off the peyote. Max v Justin is at least 4 fold better than Islam v Dustin. Even Connor v Dustin is better fight.

  • @leoonthego474
    @leoonthego474 22 дні тому

    John might be the goat yes, but I think it's disrespectful after Islams extraordinary performance to dis him straight after the fight. Islam has still a good few years to complete his resume. I remember the days when John wasn't fighting, complaining about Dana not paying enough, and Dana hardly used to mention John's name. Nowadays Dana carries John's name like a Bible, Lol. I wonder what John has on Dana haha