So Islam submits Oliveira, beats the former p4p #1 Volkanovski twice(one of those wins being a first-round KO), submits Dustin Poirier , and is now going to fight the number 1 contender Arman Tsarukyan who he already beat. But Jon Jones is the P4P #1 because he beat a French kickboxer with 12 fights, after he took 3 years off because he lost to Dominic Reyes who is now ranked #15 at LHW. Makes sense Dana
Absolutely Jon Jones is number one. I get it though, all you racists want the great white hope to be on top. You talk about the guys who Islam has beaten, but take a good look at the guys that Jon Jones has beaten. They are far better than the guys who Islam beat. I think that Chael Sonnen is a sore loser because Jon Jones took it to him when they fought. Ciryl GaneChampionship Belt W Submission 1 2:04 UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane Feb 8, 2020 Dominick ReyesChampionship Belt W Decision - Unanimous 5 5:00 UFC 247: Jones vs. Reyes Jul 6, 2019 Thiago SantosChampionship Belt W Decision - Split 5 5:00 UFC 239: Jones vs. Santos Mar 2, 2019 Anthony SmithChampionship Belt W Decision - Unanimous 5 5:00 UFC 235: Jones vs. Smith Dec 29, 2018 Alexander GustafssonChampionship Belt W KO/TKO 3 2:02 UFC 232: Jones vs. Gustafsson 2 Jul 29, 2017 Daniel CormierChampionship Belt D No Contest 3 3:01 UFC 214: Cormier vs. Jones 2 Apr 23, 2016 Ovince Saint PreuxChampionship Belt W Decision - Unanimous 5 5:00 UFC 197: Jones vs. Saint Preux Jan 3, 2015 Daniel CormierChampionship Belt W Decision - Unanimous 5 5:00 UFC 182: Jones vs. Cormier Apr 26, 2014 Glover TeixeiraChampionship Belt W Decision - Unanimous 5 5:00 UFC 172: Jones vs. Teixeira Sep 21, 2013 Alexander GustafssonChampionship Belt W Decision - Unanimous 5 5:00 UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson Apr 27, 2013 Chael SonnenChampionship Belt W KO/TKO 1 4:33 UFC 159: Jones vs. Sonnen Sep 22, 2012 Vitor BelfortChampionship Belt W Submission 4 0:54 UFC 152: Jones vs. Belfort Apr 21, 2012 Rashad EvansChampionship Belt W Decision - Unanimous 5 5:00 UFC 145: Jones vs. Evans Dec 10, 2011 Lyoto MachidaChampionship Belt W Submission 2 4:26 UFC 140: Jones vs. Machida Sep 24, 2011 Quinton JacksonChampionship Belt W Submission 4 1:14 UFC 135: Jones vs. Rampage Mar 19, 2011 Mauricio RuaChampionship Belt W KO/TKO 3 2:37 UFC 128: Shogun vs. Jones Feb 5, 2011 Ryan Bader W Submission 2 4:20 UFC 126: Silva vs. Belfort Aug 1, 2010 Vladimir Matyushenko W KO/TKO 1 1:52 UFC on Versus: Jones vs. Matyushenko Mar 21, 2010 Brandon Vera W KO/TKO 1 3:19 UFC on Versus: Vera vs. Jones Dec 5, 2009 Matt Hamill L DQ 1 4:14 The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale Jul 11, 2009 Jake O'Brien W Submission 2 2:43 UFC 100: Lesnar vs. Mir 2 Jan 31, 2009 Stephan Bonnar W Decision - Unanimous 3 5:00 UFC 94: St-Pierre vs. Penn 2 Aug 9, 2008 Andre Gusmao W Decision - Unanimous 3 5:00 UFC 87: Seek and Destroy Jul 12, 2008 Moyses Gabin
@@johnt2831 one of the dumbest takes I've read. Also, great white hope? Do you know who Islam is buddy? If anything the American Jon Jones is where support would go vs the racism against the Muslim dagestani.
@@johnt2831we’re talking about the CURRENT p4p fighter, not 8 years ago. Jon Jones isn’t on the sauce anymore and it’s obvious. Would the p4p best fighter be ducking Tom Aspinall? Islam is consistently fighting every year and he has a lot more current evidence for being the pound for pound best fighter in the world. You are biased
@@johnt2831and you can’t put the Dominic Reyes fight as a good win when he’s lost how many fights in a row after? He arguably beat your p4p fighter in the world and then went on to lose multiple times in a row 😂 Anthony Smith? Did you seriously put that fight down as evidence 😂 you’re a clown
Why are they always trying to take Islams P4P. He beats Volk “the lightweight on the line, the P4P let’s do it”… and Volk stays P4P even after the loss. And now this trash. The UFC does not like Islam.
@@HugoStiglitz88 really? Is that why all of his recent PPVs have made a ton of money? Is that why he has a huge following on social media? Sounds like you don’t know how to tell the difference between YOUR opinion and reality.
@@johnt2831 Jones arguably lost to Dominick Reyes who is on a 4 fight losing streak and Thiago Santos who was 1-6 in the UFC after losing a split decision to your “unbeaten GOAT”
@@johnt2831islam didnt have an opponent calling out to him like aspinal is to jones. Especially considering jones's rediculous submission against the only heavyweight that can't wrestle.
Islam is actively fighting in the most competitive division in MMA and Jon is doing everything he can to avoid fighting his division interim champion. Jon atm at best is a has been champion.
@BlackGeniusGod P4P is for activity Goat is for legacy Jons is a goat but not a p4p atm. Compare Islam's resume vs Jons in the past 4 years, thats how you check p4p. Thats why Khabib and GSP are no longer on the p4p, they are inactive/retired.
Jon Jones lost to Dominik Reyes and almost lost against Thiago Santos who was on one leg after the second round. Jon also popped for peds on multiple occasions, fought way older guys who were much smaller than him and has fought twice since 2020. Jon is not the goat.
Jon Jones ducks the legit #1 contender and Interim Champion to fight an old man coming off of a knockout loss, that hasn't won since he beat Daniel Cormier in 2020, because he's terrified of having a fair fight where he doesn't hold some kind of advantage. Whether it's a reach advantage, grappling advantage, or youth advantage. Jon needs to hold some sort of advantage in order to fight someone.
who the hell says Stipe is better now? man’s been retired and living life as a firefighter for three, four years or something! it’s a demanding job but it’s not MMA - and Stipe hasn’t been keeping up with the new kids like Randy Couture did when Randy got his last belt and made his last title defence. this Jones vs Miocic mess is not gonna be the money fight people think it is - nobody has cared about Stipe or Jones since 2020, fully four years ago. and no, Gane vs Jones didn’t count. but Dana still wants Jones’ name on that list. madness.
Really? Joe Rogan is dummy? Khabib father is dummy? Paddy pimblett khabib gsp Demetrius Johnson all of these fighters and mma experts call Jones the goat what are you on?@@HugoStiglitz88
Jon Jones had one good win in 5 years. 🤷♂️ Islam has finished 7 of his last 8 in the deepest division. He’s easily the most active, dominant champion in the UFC currently. If we’re talking GOAT, it’s Jon. But p4p, it’s gotta be Islam. Heck, his previous 3 wins were against fighters in Top5 pound for pound.
But how stupid to say that Jon never had a fair fight in his life, I also don't like Jon not fighting Tom but I completely understand why, if you are forgotten why don't you go see Jon's fights and who he fought against and at his age he had when he became champion
@@Austin3III It's true, people have very short memories or many haven't followed the sport for a long time, and I think it's funny that most people think that Jon will easily overtake Stive, I believe that Jon wins but Stive will do everything he can to win, and as you know anything can happen
@@goodfellas1001 buddy I’m not sure if you’ve notice but they’re all on juice. Lmao. It’s the fight game. They’re called performance enhancing drugs for a reason. They’re all on them lmao.
@jasonnotes7566 not all. And if you're OK with ped cheating where does it stop? Should eye gouges be overlooked too? And do you really want to see your favorite fighter get "ko'd" by a kick to the balls? What about biting and pulling hair? If you're OK with cheating then all cheating should be allowed
The best HW in the world was Francis. Jon didn’t fight him. Jon didn’t even fight Tom Aspinall. He defeated a 1-1 guy who has a clear wrestling deficiency.
There’s an old clip of Khabib and he mentions Jon cannot be P4P if he popped for steroids. Can’t remember or find it but I remember seeing it back in the day
@@mattr27The similarities don't stop there.. Both are considered #1 for different reasons but they have used cheating to obtain and keep their success (ghostwriting with Drake, PEDs for Jon)
@@mattr27The similarities don't stop there.. Both are at the top of their careers for different reasons but have used some cheap methods to get and maintain their success (Drake with ghostwriting, Jon and PEDs)
Nah, test hot (twice) for ped's and you are disqualified from P4P. BUT I guess since DEI is more important than ability these days I can see why people would consider him as such.. lmfao.
Dana lives in his own little world and ignores absolutely everything said on his entire broadcasts by other fighters, commentators and says “no, you are all wrong”
It’s not about others opinions. It’s about facts. Jones is the goat and p4p until he retires. Most title defences. He’s still active, you can’t take him off the p4p til he retires.
Lets see Jones wins since 2020: - Controversial win against Santos - A win against Cyril Gane who's not the champion and not ranked in p4p list Lets see Islam wins since 2020: - 8 consecutive wins - 7 finishes - Beat #3, #1, #2 p4p consecutively I reckon It's clear who deserves #1p4p
@@مهديكينغ-ذ9ن Jones beat 3 generations of LHW, had 13 title defenses, 16 title fights, champion in 2 divisions. Jones is the GOAT, Islam is not even close to him.
Islam confirmed he had staph going into the fight. Staph infections can turn deadly if the bacteria invade deeper into the body or enters the bloodstream resulting in fever, joint and muscle pain this is why he didn't throw a single kick in the entire fight + didn't even use his judo once. When Benoit lost to dustin he said it was because of staph but Islam prevailed even when he had staph🎉 amazing man❤ It's shameful of Dana to say Islam ain't p4p after such a performance and say jones , a guy who had to takes peds, eyepokes and kneekicks to win fights should be p4p.
One of Dana worst takes yet and makes him look like a jack-ass… it’s obvious at this point (if it wasn’t already) that Makhachev is the true P4P. Tremendous disrespect to Islam. Jones has fought 1x in the last 4 years against Gane who is overrated AF - and between the PEDs and scandals, he’s not even in my top-5… one of the 🐐, certainly… not P4P
@@ligance what he is saying is the little guys get folded by the likes of those whom you just mentioned. P4P is more of a measure of skill and dominance at a given weight class in comparison to all the weight classes overall without considering size and weight. The ones that have those things and are also bigger are obviously going to win if matched up with smaller champs.
You wanna talk about “the competitor in Jon”. Last I checked, Islam didn’t hesitate to say yes to volk after Charles dropped out. When Dan Henderson dropped out against Jon, Jon refused to fight a certain Chael sonnen, who was taking the fight on 2 weeks notice. That’s the difference between Jon and Islam.
@jonkalv7808 IV vs steroids? If you woukd disqualify Islam for alleged IV use, no question you would disqualify Jones for multiple failed steroid tests right?
Champions must defend their belts against best contenders. This is the base principle. The fact that John will defend his belt against Stipe having on the line Tom is absolutely ridiculous! Dana forgot to mention John's close fights with Gustafson(first fight), Santos and Reyes. Also John had that dirty story with dopping. We are witnessing the biggest Dana Wight's privilege.
Jones was never p4p #1. P4p is about skills and none of the higher weight fighters would be shit if flyweights and them were equalized in size somehow , and then had to fight them. DJ would've smoked cocaine Jones easily.
The question to Dana wasn't even about PVP, it was how Dana compared Islam to other light weights. Dana just went on a Jon Jones rant for unknown reasons.
Based on activity, Islam is more deserving of the ranking, but Islam's résumé doesn't hold a candle to Jon's. He's still got a lot of work to do to reach that level of rarefied air.
I don't think Jon's ego will allow him to retire of he beats Stipe. I think his motivation to be known as the GOAT by the MMA fanbase will push him into fighting Aspinall. It seems like it really does drive Jon insane if anybody else is mentioned as the P4P #1
Tell you what Jon, if you beat Stipe then come out and beat Tom Aspinall you can be no.1 p4p again. Until then go back to holding up a division while being a Twitter warrior Monday through sunday
Jon is fighting against the greatest heavyweight of all time. Stipe Miocic has knocked out Daniel Cormier and dominated Francis Ngannou. He is 3-2 against Daniel Cormier and Francis Ngannou. He has a knockout where he was walking backwards. Stipe Miocic is better than Aspinall
That was a really bizarre out of the blue rant about JJ from Dana, that noone asked for. Why is he so defensive of the guy who's openly ducking the interim champ, even when nobody is attacking the guy? Its very sus. As a promoter you probably should let the journalists and fans argue about that, not start arguing about it for no reason. Really weird.
It’s crazy how so few hold Jones cheating pretty much his entire career against him. Failed 2-3 tests and no way those were the only times . Already has a huge reach advantage over all his opponents
If Islam and Jones were the same, who wins. That's what p4p means. Islam obviously. Islam is the p4p number 1. GSP is the goat not Jon Jones, here's why, the depth of talent in lightweight and welterweight is way deeper than lhw and hw simply due to the population pools of males that size. Also GSP had 0 usada issues.
Dana is trying to sell Jon jones because he knows about all the backlash on him fighting stipe and ducking Tom aspinall. He didn’t go up to heavyweight when DC was a heavyweight he said no way would he give Daniel that advantage because Daniel was a better heavyweight, he didn’t go up for Francis, Francis leaves he goes up and now he dodges the current interim champ
It was just weird because the question asked to Dana is where Islam ranks among other lightweight champions all time and Dana just started ranting about Jon jones and pound for pound rankings.
the competitor a p4p who has literally fought once in 5 years and almost lost to Dominic Reyes. JFC Disney just doesn't want a pro-palestinian fighter to be the face of the UFC that's all it is.
Jon jones WAS P4P until he recently started ducking Tom Aspinal. I don’t want to take anything away from Jon, he is very accomplished, but he negatives weigh down his positives a bit too much. The cocaine days, the hitting a pregnant woman’s car and running away, the pictograms BS. Too many negatives that will forever haunt Jon Jones. What is the most controversial thing Islam has done? The IV controversy? Well he put that to bed the moment he knocked out Alex in the second fight with no IV rehydration allegedly….
Jones is the pnp. Beat up and comers, cleaned out division, had rematches, beat Legends, beat future, current and past champions,, never took a legit loss. Champ champ status. Would beat ngannou easily would just take him down and submit him. Jones is the best
Jon hasn’t lost once in 15 title fights end of discussion 😂 From December 29th, 2018 to February 8th 2020 Jon fought; Alexander Gustafson Alex Smith Thiago Santos Dominick Reyes In a 406 day period. Recency bias is so strong lol.
I wish we could go back to the original UFC rules just one more time and settle this for good. No weight classes and no rules just pure fighting I bet jon would be the only one walking outta the octagon
Every fighter headlining a future PPV card is the nimber 1 P4P in Dana's promoters eyes. Always had been always will be. If he was askee who the #1 p4p was before Saturday night he would have said Islam to sell more ppv
jones multiple failed drug tests just to win split decisions at light heavyweight and islam submits the greatest submissionist and knocks out the pound for pound guy …..
JJ hasn't been the best for a while now. At 205 Gustafson 1 and Reyes clearly beat him. And he didn't look good against one legged Tiago Santos too. But at HW Francis was the best and JJ was hiding from him for 3 years till Ngannou left the UFC. And now JJ is openly ducks Aspinal, who clearly is the best. He is not P4P, he used to be the best at 205 a long time ago.
Jon Jones motivation is greed and money, and picking easy fights he knows he can win! We all know what Dana is up to when he said Jon Jones is P4P #1 right now - He is greasing Jon's "HUGE EGO", and trying to promote a lame fight between Jon Jones and Stipe Miocic. Dana is protecting Jon Jones from loosing - Dana and Jon both know that this is an easy fight for Jones! Jon gets to retire defending the belt against an older, past his prime Stipe Miocic who hasn't fought for over 3 years, and only cares about the paycheck! At this point Jon Jones is just padding his wins - He is not the P4P! In my book he has to fight the best - Tom Aspinall! Islam is a beast - he fought with Staph Infection, and then out struck one of the best strikers in the LW division, and then submitted him! There is no debate here - Islam is P4P #1
The question wasn’t even about whether Islam was the P4P..go back and listen to the question..it was whether he thought Islam is one of the greatest LW of all time..Dana changed the topic and went on a rant out of the blue
I don’t know why they keep screwing Islam for P4P, but I also don’t know why people waste so much energy complaining about it. Does it change anything if he’s on top?
P4p mean skills Who is best in 1) striking..... Jon vs reyes, jon vs gustaffson 1..... Islam vs porier .... Volk .... Olivera 😂 no comparison 2) grappling.... Of course islam 3) wrestling.... Dagestani style is the king style in MMA currently I didn't see anywhere jon can beat islam Even in records
Jones hasn’t been good in a decade. His only good performance was the second Gus fight, which coincidentally is the last time he had the “pictogams” in his system and they still let him fight. Even with the picos, he didn’t do anything that special because Anthony Smith did basically the same thing to Gus around that time.
That’s complete BS!! Nobody asked him about pound for pound or brought up Jones. He was asked how Islam ranks in his division!! I am still trying to figure out why Dana is quick to strip champions of title but not Jones. He can sit out a year. It is Pride month I am thinking Dana and Jon celebrate this month
Reporter ask Dana about the best lightweight of all time and he blows up about Jon Jones. Lmao that how was that even related to the question? Dana, get Jones out of your throat already
The GOAT and p4p are two different things. In the last 4 years Jon has fought once… and he barely beat Reyes (the judges gifted him the win, likely because he was the champ and people believe close fights go to the champ)… Islam has fought 8 times in the same time period with only 1 fight going to decision.
lol you guys are all nuts. Light Heavyweight used to be the premier weight class. It's not debatable. Like him or not Jones is without question the best to EVER do it. BTW Islam got slept and he has fought only 2 True Lightweight contenders so far and Dustin pushed him to the limit on relatively short notice. Jones one "Loss" was him on top beating Matt Hamill's face in. One more thing @KZ_MMA_ do you know who Daniel Cormier is? No? Let me tell you a former Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight champion that would ragdoll Aspinall in a Grappling match how did Jon do against him? Islam is great but p4p over Jon is just silly. Dana is 100 percent correct.
wasn’t everyone crowning volk to be the p4p king not too long ago imagine someone who beat volk twice😂😂 than beat dustin and charles olivera the guy who has the most finishes in the ufc and got finished by islam easily 😂😂
Who did Islam really fight, career wise to be pound 4 pound? Jon fought at a level no one had ever done, beating some real killers in 2 divisions! Bones is the pound 4 pound kingpin. Love him, or hate him....
John might be the goat yes, but I think it's disrespectful after Islams extraordinary performance to dis him straight after the fight. Islam has still a good few years to complete his resume. I remember the days when John wasn't fighting, complaining about Dana not paying enough, and Dana hardly used to mention John's name. Nowadays Dana carries John's name like a Bible, Lol. I wonder what John has on Dana haha
Dana is a funny man... before Islam fought volkanovski he said Volkanovski was the P4P. After Islam beat Volkanovski he said Volkanovski was STILL the P4P. Now after Islam beat Volkanovski again ,Charles Oliveira AND Dustin Poirier he says Jon Jones is the P4P ....Maybe he has an agenda ...
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So Islam submits Oliveira, beats the former p4p #1 Volkanovski twice(one of those wins being a first-round KO), submits Dustin Poirier , and is now going to fight the number 1 contender Arman Tsarukyan who he already beat. But Jon Jones is the P4P #1 because he beat a French kickboxer with 12 fights, after he took 3 years off because he lost to Dominic Reyes who is now ranked #15 at LHW. Makes sense Dana
Absolutely Jon Jones is number one.
I get it though, all you racists want the great white hope to be on top.
You talk about the guys who Islam has beaten, but take a good look at the guys that Jon Jones has beaten.
They are far better than the guys who Islam beat.
I think that Chael Sonnen is a sore loser because Jon Jones took it to him when they fought.
Ciryl GaneChampionship Belt
W
Submission
1 2:04 UFC 285: Jones vs. Gane
Feb 8, 2020 Dominick ReyesChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Unanimous
5 5:00 UFC 247: Jones vs. Reyes
Jul 6, 2019 Thiago SantosChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Split
5 5:00 UFC 239: Jones vs. Santos
Mar 2, 2019 Anthony SmithChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Unanimous
5 5:00 UFC 235: Jones vs. Smith
Dec 29, 2018 Alexander GustafssonChampionship Belt
W
KO/TKO
3 2:02 UFC 232: Jones vs. Gustafsson 2
Jul 29, 2017 Daniel CormierChampionship Belt
D
No Contest
3 3:01 UFC 214: Cormier vs. Jones 2
Apr 23, 2016 Ovince Saint PreuxChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Unanimous
5 5:00 UFC 197: Jones vs. Saint Preux
Jan 3, 2015 Daniel CormierChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Unanimous
5 5:00 UFC 182: Jones vs. Cormier
Apr 26, 2014 Glover TeixeiraChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Unanimous
5 5:00 UFC 172: Jones vs. Teixeira
Sep 21, 2013 Alexander GustafssonChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Unanimous
5 5:00 UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson
Apr 27, 2013 Chael SonnenChampionship Belt
W
KO/TKO
1 4:33 UFC 159: Jones vs. Sonnen
Sep 22, 2012 Vitor BelfortChampionship Belt
W
Submission
4 0:54 UFC 152: Jones vs. Belfort
Apr 21, 2012 Rashad EvansChampionship Belt
W
Decision - Unanimous
5 5:00 UFC 145: Jones vs. Evans
Dec 10, 2011 Lyoto MachidaChampionship Belt
W
Submission
2 4:26 UFC 140: Jones vs. Machida
Sep 24, 2011 Quinton JacksonChampionship Belt
W
Submission
4 1:14 UFC 135: Jones vs. Rampage
Mar 19, 2011 Mauricio RuaChampionship Belt
W
KO/TKO
3 2:37 UFC 128: Shogun vs. Jones
Feb 5, 2011 Ryan Bader
W
Submission
2 4:20 UFC 126: Silva vs. Belfort
Aug 1, 2010 Vladimir Matyushenko
W
KO/TKO
1 1:52 UFC on Versus: Jones vs. Matyushenko
Mar 21, 2010 Brandon Vera
W
KO/TKO
1 3:19 UFC on Versus: Vera vs. Jones
Dec 5, 2009 Matt Hamill
L
DQ
1 4:14 The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale
Jul 11, 2009 Jake O'Brien
W
Submission
2 2:43 UFC 100: Lesnar vs. Mir 2
Jan 31, 2009 Stephan Bonnar
W
Decision - Unanimous
3 5:00 UFC 94: St-Pierre vs. Penn 2
Aug 9, 2008 Andre Gusmao
W
Decision - Unanimous
3 5:00 UFC 87: Seek and Destroy
Jul 12, 2008 Moyses Gabin
@@johnt2831ok ape go eat a banana leave mma to the intelligent people who use logic
@@johnt2831 one of the dumbest takes I've read. Also, great white hope? Do you know who Islam is buddy? If anything the American Jon Jones is where support would go vs the racism against the Muslim dagestani.
@@johnt2831we’re talking about the CURRENT p4p fighter, not 8 years ago. Jon Jones isn’t on the sauce anymore and it’s obvious. Would the p4p best fighter be ducking Tom Aspinall? Islam is consistently fighting every year and he has a lot more current evidence for being the pound for pound best fighter in the world. You are biased
@@johnt2831and you can’t put the Dominic Reyes fight as a good win when he’s lost how many fights in a row after? He arguably beat your p4p fighter in the world and then went on to lose multiple times in a row 😂 Anthony Smith? Did you seriously put that fight down as evidence 😂 you’re a clown
Why are they always trying to take Islams P4P. He beats Volk “the lightweight on the line, the P4P let’s do it”… and Volk stays P4P even after the loss. And now this trash. The UFC does not like Islam.
I love the sentences that Makachevs name causes. Out of context its amazing. "The UFC does not like Islam"
Because he's a bum that lays n prays on the most striker packed division. Nobody is impressed
@@HugoStiglitz88Cry casual
@@HugoStiglitz88cmon man
@@HugoStiglitz88 really? Is that why all of his recent PPVs have made a ton of money? Is that why he has a huge following on social media? Sounds like you don’t know how to tell the difference between YOUR opinion and reality.
Dana didn’t have none of that energy when Volk or Usman were P4P 🍅
Are they unbeaten like Jones?
No they aren't.
@@johnt2831 Jones arguably lost to Dominick Reyes who is on a 4 fight losing streak and Thiago Santos who was 1-6 in the UFC after losing a split decision to your “unbeaten GOAT”
jones was inactive when volk and usman were 1# p4p
@@avishai827 Inactive.
And Islam was also inactive.
@@johnt2831islam didnt have an opponent calling out to him like aspinal is to jones. Especially considering jones's rediculous submission against the only heavyweight that can't wrestle.
There might be 7-8 Hall of famers at 155 active right now never really been like that at the heavier weights
Islam is actively fighting in the most competitive division in MMA and Jon is doing everything he can to avoid fighting his division interim champion. Jon atm at best is a has been champion.
jones hasn't been relevant in over 5 years now. he has been a semi retired side show for awhile now.
Jones would smash islam. Enough said.
Islam is earning his stripes, Jon jones is already a legend. No comparison
@@BlackGeniusGod cant disagree eith that.
@BlackGeniusGod
P4P is for activity
Goat is for legacy
Jons is a goat but not a p4p atm. Compare Islam's resume vs Jons in the past 4 years, thats how you check p4p.
Thats why Khabib and GSP are no longer on the p4p, they are inactive/retired.
Jon Jones lost to Dominik Reyes and almost lost against Thiago Santos who was on one leg after the second round. Jon also popped for peds on multiple occasions, fought way older guys who were much smaller than him and has fought twice since 2020. Jon is not the goat.
Say it to Jon's face.
@@Dark-Light_Ascendinwhat is he gonna do hit me?
@@carterpayte9463 one more charge ain't gonna hurt anything. 😂
@@Dark-Light_Ascendin I mean it will hurt his bank account, considering I would sue him for a shit load of money..
@@carterpayte9463 one more won't hurt... get ya lawyer ready
Jon Jones ducks the legit #1 contender and Interim Champion to fight an old man coming off of a knockout loss, that hasn't won since he beat Daniel Cormier in 2020, because he's terrified of having a fair fight where he doesn't hold some kind of advantage. Whether it's a reach advantage, grappling advantage, or youth advantage. Jon needs to hold some sort of advantage in order to fight someone.
Not p4p mentality
💅 🌈
Stipe is proven. The reason Stipe got ko'd is because he taught Francis Ngannou how to fight
@@SK-kp2qqStipe is better than Aspinall
@@Austin3III oh you 💅🌈🍆🍑 too nvm
who the hell says Stipe is better now? man’s been retired and living life as a firefighter for three, four years or something! it’s a demanding job but it’s not MMA - and Stipe hasn’t been keeping up with the new kids like Randy Couture did when Randy got his last belt and made his last title defence.
this Jones vs Miocic mess is not gonna be the money fight people think it is - nobody has cared about Stipe or Jones since 2020, fully four years ago. and no, Gane vs Jones didn’t count.
but Dana still wants Jones’ name on that list. madness.
Chael you should call up Dana and tell him the real P4P #1 is named Chael Sonnen.
Haha 😂😂😂😂
Dana is a clown for that
Dana just ensured the P4P list is as useless as most of us already thought!
Not most, only dummies who actually believe Jones is that good 😂😂😂
@@HugoStiglitz88 are you the #1 P4P gigolo
Really? Joe Rogan is dummy? Khabib father is dummy? Paddy pimblett khabib gsp Demetrius Johnson all of these fighters and mma experts call Jones the goat what are you on?@@HugoStiglitz88
If you meat ride Dana sure. If you don’t give a fuck about his flip flop opinions then no.
The p4p list is more accurate that what Dana said he doesn’t make it Islam is #1 rn
I don't allow known drug cheats on my personal P4P list
So Leon edwards is your pfp #1 then?
Would have to take a lot off your list every time they update the banned substance lists my guy.
@@DaBlaccGhostthat doesn't count its those who carry on using after a substance has been banned and have been caught for it.
No Islam then
Imagine thinking you can make it to the ufc without enhancements. They’re called performance enhancing enhancing for a reason, Dum dum
Jon Jones had one good win in 5 years. 🤷♂️
Islam has finished 7 of his last 8 in the deepest division. He’s easily the most active, dominant champion in the UFC currently. If we’re talking GOAT, it’s Jon. But p4p, it’s gotta be Islam. Heck, his previous 3 wins were against fighters in Top5 pound for pound.
Jon Jones is ducking Tom Aspinall because he's terrified of a fair fight against someone his size that can grapple
Not only can he grapple an elite level but he’s faster, bigger, stronger, and hits harder
Yeah, I know that you would love to believe that.
But how stupid to say that Jon never had a fair fight in his life, I also don't like Jon not fighting Tom but I completely understand why, if you are forgotten why don't you go see Jon's fights and who he fought against and at his age he had when he became champion
Stipe Miocic has knocked out Daniel Cormier and dominated Francis Ngannou. Those two wins are bigger than anything Aspinall has ever done.
@@Austin3III It's true, people have very short memories or many haven't followed the sport for a long time, and I think it's funny that most people think that Jon will easily overtake Stive, I believe that Jon wins but Stive will do everything he can to win, and as you know anything can happen
Them picograms disqualify jones from p4p and goat
This isn’t cycling lmao this is the fight game.
@jasonnotes7566 correct. And the rules of the fight game are no peds
@@jasonnotes7566ha cycling would be a better sport to cheat... Not a life threatening support that could leave fighters missing eyes and paralyzed...
@@goodfellas1001 buddy I’m not sure if you’ve notice but they’re all on juice. Lmao. It’s the fight game. They’re called performance enhancing drugs for a reason. They’re all on them lmao.
@jasonnotes7566 not all. And if you're OK with ped cheating where does it stop? Should eye gouges be overlooked too? And do you really want to see your favorite fighter get "ko'd" by a kick to the balls? What about biting and pulling hair? If you're OK with cheating then all cheating should be allowed
The best HW in the world was Francis. Jon didn’t fight him. Jon didn’t even fight Tom Aspinall. He defeated a 1-1 guy who has a clear wrestling deficiency.
Jon Jones is blackmailing Dana... its pretty obvious at this point... i just want to know what hes got on him...
It’s disgustingly obvious. Dude has never liked jones and now acts like he can do no wrong.
There’s an old clip of Khabib and he mentions Jon cannot be P4P if he popped for steroids. Can’t remember or find it but I remember seeing it back in the day
DC had the same take. I agree
Jon Jones is the Drake of the UFC
Spot on. Both are put on a pedestal and defended by armies of casuals. They are also 🌈
Fr we all know Strickland is the goat, 32-3 if you take away his robberies @@mattr27
Best Jon Jones is actually good tho, that's the difference
@@mattr27The similarities don't stop there.. Both are considered #1 for different reasons but they have used cheating to obtain and keep their success (ghostwriting with Drake, PEDs for Jon)
@@mattr27The similarities don't stop there.. Both are at the top of their careers for different reasons but have used some cheap methods to get and maintain their success (Drake with ghostwriting, Jon and PEDs)
Nah, test hot (twice) for ped's and you are disqualified from P4P. BUT I guess since DEI is more important than ability these days I can see why people would consider him as such.. lmfao.
Wtf does DEI have to do between Jon and Islam?! 😂
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
@@DaBlaccGhost What? Black American vs pale-skinned Russian. Are you blind?
Dana lives in his own little world and ignores absolutely everything said on his entire broadcasts by other fighters, commentators and says “no, you are all wrong”
It’s not about others opinions. It’s about facts. Jones is the goat and p4p until he retires. Most title defences. He’s still active, you can’t take him off the p4p til he retires.
Hasn’t Jones been caught using steroids in his career? If so, then P4P shouldn’t be on the table for him…just my humble opinion
Lets see Jones wins since 2020:
- Controversial win against Santos
- A win against Cyril Gane who's not the champion and not ranked in p4p list
Lets see Islam wins since 2020:
- 8 consecutive wins
- 7 finishes
- Beat #3, #1, #2 p4p consecutively
I reckon It's clear who deserves #1p4p
This is like saying Michael Jordan is mvp this season or with dana whites logic lebron james should be mvp every year until he retires
Good point
Not the same. Jon is still considered an active fighter. If Michael Jordan was active you know he'd have it
@@JayLee-od8ob as is lebron james
@@JayLee-od8objon jones active ? 😂 has 2 fights since 2020 and the interim champ is about to get a title defense before Jones
@@juz0973 maybe you should re read the comment again
Jon Jones is a top level fighter as is Islam but right now Islam is P4P in the UFC.
The guy has ONE title defense against an actual 155er
@@Lucasvaletthat 145er Beat half of 155ers
Plus he Beat charles volk poirier his streak is impressive
While jones fighting guy with 0 ground game
@@Lucasvaletnot his fault everyone keeps pulling out, RDA, Dariush, Charles and Gamrot got injured
@@مهديكينغ-ذ9ن Jones beat 3 generations of LHW, had 13 title defenses, 16 title fights, champion in 2 divisions.
Jones is the GOAT, Islam is not even close to him.
Any of the top 300 guys in 155 is better than anyone at lhw and heavyweight.
Islam confirmed he had staph going into the fight. Staph infections can turn deadly if the bacteria invade deeper into the body or enters the bloodstream resulting in fever, joint and muscle pain this is why he didn't throw a single kick in the entire fight + didn't even use his judo once. When Benoit lost to dustin he said it was because of staph but Islam prevailed even when he had staph🎉 amazing man❤
It's shameful of Dana to say Islam ain't p4p after such a performance and say jones , a guy who had to takes peds, eyepokes and kneekicks to win fights should be p4p.
I was confused when Dana kept saying Jones beat the best HW. He never fought Francis or Stipe. 😅
Dude wake up. How can he fight Ngannou if he didnt sign and left the ufc only to be knocked out by Anthony Joshua
One of Dana worst takes yet and makes him look like a jack-ass… it’s obvious at this point (if it wasn’t already) that Makhachev is the true P4P. Tremendous disrespect to Islam. Jones has fought 1x in the last 4 years against Gane who is overrated AF - and between the PEDs and scandals, he’s not even in my top-5… one of the 🐐, certainly… not P4P
Jon obviously got some dirt on Dana and i wouldn't be surprised if Dana said that because Jon told him to do so
one is 8.0 in this decade and the other needs to tweet after each card to stay remembered
I always thought the "pound for pound" title was a nice thing you did for a little guy who happens to be a great fighter.
Fedor, Silva, GSP, Jones are not what I'd call little guys
@@ligance what he is saying is the little guys get folded by the likes of those whom you just mentioned. P4P is more of a measure of skill and dominance at a given weight class in comparison to all the weight classes overall without considering size and weight. The ones that have those things and are also bigger are obviously going to win if matched up with smaller champs.
@@ligance True, but the only time I ever hear the "pound for pound" thing used is when little guys are in the discussion.
You wanna talk about “the competitor in Jon”. Last I checked, Islam didn’t hesitate to say yes to volk after Charles dropped out. When Dan Henderson dropped out against Jon, Jon refused to fight a certain Chael sonnen, who was taking the fight on 2 weeks notice. That’s the difference between Jon and Islam.
honestly its a joke to call pictogram #1 p4p
Ur face is a joke....
But we were all nice enuff to not say anything.
Over IVlam?
@jonkalv7808
IV vs steroids? If you woukd disqualify Islam for alleged IV use, no question you would disqualify Jones for multiple failed steroid tests right?
Champions must defend their belts against best contenders. This is the base principle. The fact that John will defend his belt against Stipe having on the line Tom is absolutely ridiculous!
Dana forgot to mention John's close fights with Gustafson(first fight), Santos and Reyes. Also John had that dirty story with dopping. We are witnessing the biggest Dana Wight's privilege.
So Stipe V Jon is still on? Can we expect them to fight before 2030?
Islam’s P4P right now on the rankings. 😂😂
Jones is the Duck of the UFC-as in, he does nothing but duck Tom Aspinall.
Reporter shouldve said “cirly gane best heavyweight, really?”
“Jon shows that competitor inside” on twitter chael… on twitter
Jones was never p4p #1. P4p is about skills and none of the higher weight fighters would be shit if flyweights and them were equalized in size somehow
, and then had to fight them. DJ would've smoked cocaine Jones easily.
The question to Dana wasn't even about PVP, it was how Dana compared Islam to other light weights. Dana just went on a Jon Jones rant for unknown reasons.
Based on activity, Islam is more deserving of the ranking, but Islam's résumé doesn't hold a candle to Jon's. He's still got a lot of work to do to reach that level of rarefied air.
Fair comment
Finally a person with a fucking brain
that resume full of over the hill one dimensional middleweights and gifted decisions.
yeah that resume is sooooo impressive😂
I mean obviously Jon has a more extensive body of work but this 4 fight run is better than any 4 fight run Jon has ever had
@@carterpayte9463 well said
Of course it’s Jon, we have to hype up his next fight against a geriatric.
I don't think Jon's ego will allow him to retire of he beats Stipe. I think his motivation to be known as the GOAT by the MMA fanbase will push him into fighting Aspinall. It seems like it really does drive Jon insane if anybody else is mentioned as the P4P #1
Was this a 7 minute segment on how Dana’s opinion was dumb? If so, then bravo… 👏👏
Chael posts then I watch, it’s that simple
Wow actual news on the news. This is a fantastic discovery.
Tell you what Jon, if you beat Stipe then come out and beat Tom Aspinall you can be no.1 p4p again. Until then go back to holding up a division while being a Twitter warrior Monday through sunday
Dana needs to sell that Jon Jones vs random senior citizen fight somehow.
Jon is fighting against the greatest heavyweight of all time. Stipe Miocic has knocked out Daniel Cormier and dominated Francis Ngannou. He is 3-2 against Daniel Cormier and Francis Ngannou. He has a knockout where he was walking backwards. Stipe Miocic is better than Aspinall
Ofc Stipe is better than Aspinall all time. But Aspinall is obviously the better fighter right now, its not even a debate
That was a really bizarre out of the blue rant about JJ from Dana, that noone asked for. Why is he so defensive of the guy who's openly ducking the interim champ, even when nobody is attacking the guy? Its very sus. As a promoter you probably should let the journalists and fans argue about that, not start arguing about it for no reason. Really weird.
The cuts are getting slightly better but you won’t be UA-cam pfp until you return to old format completely. Do em all on the treadmill
Pfp list and goat list are two separate things….
islam beat the pound for pound champion ….. twice …. and submitted two blackbelt hall of famers
It’s crazy how so few hold Jones cheating pretty much his entire career against him. Failed 2-3 tests and no way those were the only times . Already has a huge reach advantage over all his opponents
If Islam and Jones were the same, who wins. That's what p4p means. Islam obviously.
Islam is the p4p number 1.
GSP is the goat not Jon Jones, here's why, the depth of talent in lightweight and welterweight is way deeper than lhw and hw simply due to the population pools of males that size. Also GSP had 0 usada issues.
I'm a newish mma fan and I really only seen like 3 of Jon Jones fights. From my perspective as a newish fan Islam seems to be the Guy.
Dana is trying to sell Jon jones because he knows about all the backlash on him fighting stipe and ducking Tom aspinall. He didn’t go up to heavyweight when DC was a heavyweight he said no way would he give Daniel that advantage because Daniel was a better heavyweight, he didn’t go up for Francis, Francis leaves he goes up and now he dodges the current interim champ
It was just weird because the question asked to Dana is where Islam ranks among other lightweight champions all time and Dana just started ranting about Jon jones and pound for pound rankings.
the competitor a p4p who has literally fought once in 5 years and almost lost to Dominic Reyes. JFC Disney just doesn't want a pro-palestinian fighter to be the face of the UFC that's all it is.
Jon jones WAS P4P until he recently started ducking Tom Aspinal. I don’t want to take anything away from Jon, he is very accomplished, but he negatives weigh down his positives a bit too much. The cocaine days, the hitting a pregnant woman’s car and running away, the pictograms BS. Too many negatives that will forever haunt Jon Jones. What is the most controversial thing Islam has done? The IV controversy? Well he put that to bed the moment he knocked out Alex in the second fight with no IV rehydration allegedly….
8 wins (7 finishes) vs 1 win in 3 years
Jones GOAT
ISLAM P4P
CHAEL UNDEFEATED UNDISPUTED
Jones is the pnp. Beat up and comers, cleaned out division, had rematches, beat Legends, beat future, current and past champions,, never took a legit loss. Champ champ status. Would beat ngannou easily would just take him down and submit him. Jones is the best
Jon hasn’t lost once in 15 title fights end of discussion 😂
From December 29th, 2018 to February 8th 2020 Jon fought;
Alexander Gustafson
Alex Smith
Thiago Santos
Dominick Reyes
In a 406 day period.
Recency bias is so strong lol.
Lance Armstrong is the GOAT...
I wish we could go back to the original UFC rules just one more time and settle this for good. No weight classes and no rules just pure fighting I bet jon would be the only one walking outta the octagon
Every fighter headlining a future PPV card is the nimber 1 P4P in Dana's promoters eyes. Always had been always will be. If he was askee who the #1 p4p was before Saturday night he would have said Islam to sell more ppv
“Dana does not show up to those press conferences to do pr, to do a spin”. Lmao. Whatever you say Chael 😂😂😂
Sometimes i fell like uncle chael is the biggest Jon Jones fan ever
Dana can say what he likes. We know the truth. Cheal Sonnen. Never lost a round.
So this is basically Bisping video talking about the same topic but with longer unconfortable pauses between lines.
jones multiple failed drug tests just to win split decisions at light heavyweight and islam submits the greatest submissionist and knocks out the pound for pound guy …..
JJ hasn't been the best for a while now. At 205 Gustafson 1 and Reyes clearly beat him. And he didn't look good against one legged Tiago Santos too.
But at HW Francis was the best and JJ was hiding from him for 3 years till Ngannou left the UFC. And now JJ is openly ducks Aspinal, who clearly is the best. He is not P4P, he used to be the best at 205 a long time ago.
Jones lost to Chael, Gustafsson, Santos, and Reyes
Jon Jones motivation is greed and money, and picking easy fights he knows he can win!
We all know what Dana is up to when he said Jon Jones is P4P #1 right now - He is greasing Jon's "HUGE EGO", and trying to promote a lame fight between Jon Jones and Stipe Miocic. Dana is protecting Jon Jones from loosing - Dana and Jon both know that this is an easy fight for Jones! Jon gets to retire defending the belt against an older, past his prime Stipe Miocic who hasn't fought for over 3 years, and only cares about the paycheck!
At this point Jon Jones is just padding his wins - He is not the P4P! In my book he has to fight the best - Tom Aspinall!
Islam is a beast - he fought with Staph Infection, and then out struck one of the best strikers in the LW division, and then submitted him!
There is no debate here - Islam is P4P #1
Jones at this point is factually irrelevant.
Quite right. Ariels P4P list was a joke
The question wasn’t even about whether Islam was the P4P..go back and listen to the question..it was whether he thought Islam is one of the greatest LW of all time..Dana changed the topic and went on a rant out of the blue
Chael said you dont need to fight for p4p #1 status
I don’t know why they keep screwing Islam for P4P, but I also don’t know why people waste so much energy complaining about it. Does it change anything if he’s on top?
P4p mean skills
Who is best in
1) striking..... Jon vs reyes, jon vs gustaffson 1..... Islam vs porier .... Volk .... Olivera 😂 no comparison
2) grappling.... Of course islam
3) wrestling.... Dagestani style is the king style in MMA currently
I didn't see anywhere jon can beat islam
Even in records
Let’s be real jj is the goat of mma beat all the greats mach doesn’t have a resume like jj
lay off the pipe, kid.
@@FizzSix 🤣 be real with your self and stop smoking crack your delusional 🤣
10 years ago
Jones hasn’t been good in a decade. His only good performance was the second Gus fight, which coincidentally is the last time he had the “pictogams” in his system and they still let him fight. Even with the picos, he didn’t do anything that special because Anthony Smith did basically the same thing to Gus around that time.
Jj has fought Once since he started talking about P4P comparison’s.
That’s complete BS!! Nobody asked him about pound for pound or brought up Jones. He was asked how Islam ranks in his division!! I am still trying to figure out why Dana is quick to strip champions of title but not Jones. He can sit out a year. It is Pride month I am thinking Dana and Jon celebrate this month
Reporter ask Dana about the best lightweight of all time and he blows up about Jon Jones. Lmao that how was that even related to the question? Dana, get Jones out of your throat already
Ciryl gane is the best heavyweight in the world?
In 2024 Jon is absolutely not P4P #1 and he’s definitely not the GOAT but he is the best light heavyweight in my opinion
The promoter Dana is promoting Jones for the stipe fight he knows one of his golden gooses is leaving
The GOAT and p4p are two different things. In the last 4 years Jon has fought once… and he barely beat Reyes (the judges gifted him the win, likely because he was the champ and people believe close fights go to the champ)… Islam has fought 8 times in the same time period with only 1 fight going to decision.
lol you guys are all nuts. Light Heavyweight used to be the premier weight class. It's not debatable. Like him or not Jones is without question the best to EVER do it. BTW Islam got slept and he has fought only 2 True Lightweight contenders so far and Dustin pushed him to the limit on relatively short notice. Jones one "Loss" was him on top beating Matt Hamill's face in. One more thing @KZ_MMA_ do you know who Daniel Cormier is? No? Let me tell you a former Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight champion that would ragdoll Aspinall in a Grappling match how did Jon do against him? Islam is great but p4p over Jon is just silly. Dana is 100 percent correct.
Dana was just promoting the Jon/Stipe fight
wasn’t everyone crowning volk to be the p4p king not too long ago imagine someone who beat volk twice😂😂 than beat dustin and charles olivera the guy who has the most finishes in the ufc and got finished by islam easily 😂😂
Sometimes the answer to why are you still doing this is simply “its all i know”
Who did Islam really fight, career wise to be pound 4 pound? Jon fought at a level no one had ever done, beating some real killers in 2 divisions! Bones is the pound 4 pound kingpin. Love him, or hate him....
John might be the goat yes, but I think it's disrespectful after Islams extraordinary performance to dis him straight after the fight. Islam has still a good few years to complete his resume. I remember the days when John wasn't fighting, complaining about Dana not paying enough, and Dana hardly used to mention John's name. Nowadays Dana carries John's name like a Bible, Lol. I wonder what John has on Dana haha
All these ppl of people trying to discredit Jon is weirdo behavior by people who’s entire identity is on twitter and have zero real accomplishments
Dana is the boos his decision is ultimate, he may put cornor macgregor no. 1 p4p. It is what it is, if you don't know now you know
Dana is a funny man...
before Islam fought volkanovski he said Volkanovski was the P4P.
After Islam beat Volkanovski he said Volkanovski was STILL the P4P.
Now after Islam beat Volkanovski again ,Charles Oliveira AND Dustin Poirier he says Jon Jones is the P4P
....Maybe he has an agenda ...