The Legendary Low End Mix Trick
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In todays video I go over a legendary low end mix trick used by some of todays top producers and engineers. This pro mix technique involves using both a pultec eq in parallel. It is used by mixers like jaycen joshua and dave pensado. It is used by many pro mixers to mix hip hop low end and bass
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OKAY! For those who are STILL confused. Here’s the explanation: What is he’s essentially describing, is using a compressor to compress the low end then using an EQ to boost what was compressed. They are talking about using specific plug-ins, but that is the absolute basic explanation of what this trick is.
We didn’t have plug ins back then….it was all hardware
I'm tired of this kind of click bait. The kind that gives you nothing and then tries to upsell you. Here's the truth. Get a real pair of Pultec EQP-1A's, set the low end frequency to 60hz, turn up the boost to 3 or 4, set the attenuation to about the same amount. That's it. It's not magic or rocket science. Even though the boost and atten should be at the same frequency, an anomaly in the design places the attenuation higher up on the eq curve making it so that the eq boosts the low end and the atten attenuates frequencies further up in the low mids.
THIS! I've tried the Pultec on my mix bus before and it's destroyed my mix by carving the low mids.
The quirk of the Pultec EQ is that you can set it to cut and boost at a set frequency (which would just cancel out on a digital EQ) but it actually makes a pleasant curve on that old device, but that's not the "trick" being described here. For 'Low End Theory', the kick drum was heavily compressed with a dbx (in parallel) and then a Pultec was used to boost some of the low end that was lost in the compression phase. It's natural to do this today when we have infinite plugins, but back in the past it was revolutionary to use extreme compression and then a "corrective" EQ when you only had one compressor and EQ machine in your studio.
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Weird that nothing in the video actually mentioned the Pultec Trick (boosting and attenuating the same frequency). Jaycen just talked about compressing a kick and then adding low end to it.
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I think the reason behind this is because it would add more phase. When using parallel buses its crucial to keep phase changes to a minimum
DAWs use latency compensation for this reason. It's in all DAWs.@@gsonic49
bro look up 'PIERRE BOURNE MIXING SAUCE +PROOF" there's more to it than justtt compression and eq but ur close ish
Low End was one of the few records that changed the way I heard hip hop, and music in general...
If I'm being honest, in this day and age you dont need parallel compression in modern hiphop/edm/pop production.
The reason being that most drum samples these days are all ready heavily processed that you dont need parallel compression to raise the low end or hype the drums up, they usually all ready are.
Parallel compression makes sense when you're working with sampled drums off 1970's funk and RnB records which usually had a very linear low end to them (in other words, not alot of low end.) and 80's drum machines.
These days, your 808s and kicks from a modern sample pack are usually going to be very hyped, saturated and snappy right out of the pack that you can pretty much set your mixing levels by them.
Spot On.
facts
yeah but you still need to add some boom to the sub so you can be sure all the woodland critters can hear your mixtape
I think you missed the point. Modern samples already have that boom.@@kitchenspider
More facts have never been spoken
Bob explained to me exactly how to use the Pultec while we were sitting in a studio at the end of a mix. Priceless info, and now with Pultec digital emulations, it works ITB!
man, that attenuation at the end is suuuubtle. i could hardly hear the difference.
You mentioned the API 550a, where in the chain is that used? Jaycen didnt mention it, only talked about the 160x and Pultec.
Interesting from the guy across the table from Pensado.. He makes a few mistakes when commenting on the trick. Firstly there is no 70hz band select on the pultec, he gets it right in the beginning by saying you'd either add 60 or 100, which are two of the four possible selections. He also says, "add it back with a very narrow bandwidth", I imagine he is referring to the Q, (which is described as "bandwidth on the pultec hardware) however on the pultecs bandwidth control only effects the upper boost/cut bands. The low is fixed, so he must've not known this all along, and thought he was using a sharp Q when in fact the bandwidth control was actually doing nothing.
Heads up that the bandwidth only affects the bell boost, not the shelf attenuation.
There’s an older Pultec that has 70Hz instead of 60Hz. CLA has one too. Jaycen is notoriously cryptic in what he says, yet if you’re clued in, you can read between the lines.
On many mixes, on the bass bus I use the EQP-1A - Pultec from Apogee (master bus preset)... resulting in a great humming bass
apogee makes very underrated software
The apogee one is fantastic , the others in comparison are sterile
what if you wanna process some subs? i hate how people only always talk about 1 plugin as opposed to the whole picture of getting good bass xD look up "PIERRE BOURNE MIXING SAUCE +PROOF" if ur willing to learn
Have all their plugins. DEFINITELY UNDERRATED!
For those who don't know what the 'Pultec trick' is (because this awful video doesn't explain it whatsoever) - The Pultec trick is literally boosting and attenuating the low end at 60 or 100hz by the same values, resulting in an EQ curve with a tighter slope.
That’s a different thing a more well known trick though
Not what they are talking about here
They explain it: compress with dbx160 and add 60:100 / attenuate highs with a pultec w/small bandwidth
@@kamiladamczyk3802🤦🏻♂️
In parallel?
Thank you for this Amazing Videos Bro
“Bob Power you there?” “Yeah !”
The actual _information_ in this video does not exceed 1 minute. The rest is filled with teasers and repetitions. And then the actual explanation is also incomplete: mentioning parallel compression followed by a compressor and an EQ as the two required components leaves out the second compressor.
Stfu, this isn't yelp, beta.
god i hate these countless content creator tier producer channels
Say whuuuut
3:40 JJ says “at a very small bandwidth”…there is no bandwidth or Q control on the low boost of a Pultec though… anyone know what he means?
There totally is control! Middle bottom knob.
@@Rorymillermusic That’s for the HF bell, not the LF shelf…
He's talking out of his ass.
@@p0llenp0nyfor rizzle? So what’s he trying to say?
he talks about things he doesn't know all the time lol you can see Dave go "huh"
6:00 I am confused, I can barely hear the difference, if any 🤔
My mic sounding bugged bob power you there .... YEAH!
Imperfection is a root of music
Brother, how can you make videos about sound engineering, promoting membership programs when you record your audio sounding like its recorded in a restroom with your phone/cheap mic. I like and watch your channel but this is something that has always bothered me. If you want people to take you seriously you gotta step up your game man. No hate, just constructive criticism. 03:51
if his voiceover sounded good, then you'd know he's good at mixing voiceovers. Wouldn't tell you anything about the quality of music mixes. I've never seen him showing a "before and after" in one of his own sessions. To me, that would be a much better way to validate.
The Pensado tutorial is not the pultec low end trick
So you want low end. Try the X6 multi band compressor.
this is a great and informative video. but it's really hard taking production advice from someone whose voice sounds like it was recorded on a broken dictaphone. improving your audio quality will improve your credibility.
can someone tell me how to detect phase issues if you don't know how to hear them?
work in mono only then switch to stereo for a final mix youll hear em straight away infact some will even disapear in mono so working in mono really trains your ears for full stereo mixing imo
Skeef Anselm needs to be mentioned cause he introduced him to alot of the techniques that were used on the low end theory album
could you link the sources of the interviews?
i thought it was the pultec attenuation/gain trick...It makes a little dip around the mid area, enhancing the sub frequencies and separating the bass form the low mids.
video on vocal pls
Wait what? This was the most confusing video ever!
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I think Ace of Base from Sweden has the best kick and low ent of all time.... modern electronics music has just mutch and messy low end..
Can someone explain the trick in full detail please? Ty so much
Send kick to a parallel send. Compress with dbx160 about -10dB. This gives it a tight punch that is unique to the dbx. Yet, compressing sucks low-end out of sounds, so then you boost the low end back up with the Pultec at either 60Hz or 100Hz, depending on what sounds best in the track. The result is a tight, round, punchy low end. That’s it. All the people in the comments talking about cutting/boosting the same Hz are rookies who are confused and don’t know what they don’t know. This isn’t about Pultec’s EQ curves. It’s about a type of parallel compression.
@@mattmullin33609 Thank you Matt!!
Just layer a sine wave..
I do also got the EQP-1A-Pultec, but from waves audio. Sounds pretty good.
i dont get it, whats the trick?
Great work here getting this information together thanks!
What was wrong with the video that you had to re-upload?
By the way, I have to thank you for all the helpful tips and tricks you put out... FOR FREE !
So I'm curious to why and also a big thank you to you.
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@@georgetmusicUnderstood.! Salute to you.
amazing as always
why do they say u copy paste vids
Thanks for a great video
Bob Powers is a God!
Now all we hear is low end
I ordered the pro tools template and can’t open it
This is a sorry tale of the dreadful number of hoops engineers used to have to jump through just to get a halfway decent bass sound. The hardware they are talking about (and the associated technique) was great in its day, but even those boxes, with all their pristine circuitry, coloured the sound. The question was, did you like it or not? Now, every EQ is as colourless as you want it to be, whether it's hardware or software, If you really want to go back in time to capture the magic of those old boxes, then by all means pay a large amount of money for one and integrate it into your modern studio.
If you have "honest ears" you will quickly realise that almost any modern version will do a better job. Which is why everyone gets that sound now.
All I read is you giving your point of view, believing that it's facts. I believe that your narrative on this is partly what's wrong with modern music, and why it's all sounding the same and boring. Mediocrity has become the accepted norm and it's pretty lame -- but I say that as my opinion, not some holier than thou rant.
@@aarons6617 Well, excuse me for having an opinion! lol My own music is anything but mediocre. I've been making electronic and electric music since 1979, and I've seen it all. I think it's important to remind people that they may be wearing rose tinted spectacles when they talk bollocks about "the good old days".
Mediocrity? Everyone sounds the same? This video is promoting a trick that's been used for 30 years, aka the sound everyone has already made.@@aarons6617
Gee, not a million videos on this subject already on, UA-cam ..zzzzz work harder
I love the video & I will definitely dig the more in depth one (deVerb your voice?) cheers
Pultec EQP-1a
cool video for sure but whenever you talk could really hear you or understand what you were saying that well
sometimes it works
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great , thanks a lot
Aye good stuff here!!!🤙
you can recreate this with any EQ
to any new mixers this wont work right if everything isn't gain staged
24 bit has 144db of dynamic range... I think they'll be fine
low effort copy paste v ideo
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@@georgetmusicis the person a 🤡 because they telling the truth or are you referring to yourself as the 🤡...just an honest question 🤔.
You are a clown. @@georgetmusic
@@eyeswideopen7199 dude tried to make a video about a topic and is now defensive.
cry some more George T
@@georgetmusicpeople are just being rude, they don’t have to watch this content
That's some confusing ahh video
Click bait
somene can explin it simply pls i didnt got it
Its basically describing parallel compression which is where you take your audio and over compress it and mix it with your original audio which adds more low end.
i know whats parallel comprison but i dont undersetnd if the signel for the parallel is the drums bus or 808@@soundswoop4378
and wich plugins verison to use the mono or stero
@@most.notorious.b I think it's just preference but I usually keep it stereo
It's an old technique that is rarely necessary with today's processed sample packs, but back in the day, hip hop producers could improve the sound of sampled kick drums by compressing them hard with a dbx and then boosting the low end that the compressor typically reduced. It's really as simple as that: Compress hard then use EQ to restore (or boost) the low end.
These days we go even further by adding an additional sub bass an octave below, but back in the day it was revolutionary to use compression and EQ on a kick.
this stuff is outdated bro. people make great music with bad mics and a smartphone. people record samples and drums from same phone and can mix it well enough to sound good and sell. cleaning up art takes away from the soul of such art. imperfections are human. look at dillas aproach to not usuing quantization and keeping it real
Deja vu 🫣
Halfway through this video you plug yourself to profit off sharing this informaton without any clearance on it. Lol. Although the information is old and not new, you shouldn't be profiting off sharing these kinds of stuff imo. It's bad practice.
Wtf is this vid
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tf
Jesus is not real. Don’t feed into religion
Shut up pipsqueak
I don't get it . crappy video
beat maker here, just wanna say, mixing isn't too hard but it takes a while to learn it compared to beat making, if you are a beat maker and struggle with mixing... either focus on your beats being fire or take a professional highly rated mixing course so you can learn it the fastest way. However, if you really find it difficult to make a premix sound good before jumping into a full mix, you should stick to beat making for the time being and try to link up with a decent mixer person, because trust me you will be forever trying to learn mixing, and when you do, do you have the ear and environment for the quality of sound you are trying to produce? if not then leave it to the mixer guy or go full time into a professional mixing course.
this is a channel for engineers bro so saying leave it to a pro mixer is silly, that’s who we’re studying to be😂
@@prod_carl i speak to beatmakers who have been struggling with mixing or find it to hard and it is limiting and slowing down their career. You would know that if you read my comment.
any mixing course you recommend
@@MexaMob well a great start for mixing courses is exactly where I am learning for free ... " how to use an equalizer 9 hour course " " how to use compression 10 hour course" "ultimate reverb course 7 hours" these are free on UA-cam and by professionals. The main basics for mixing but if you like what you learn then stick with those guys and buy their courses and then for extra credit take a small course from another company in your music genre specifically for mixing ( given that you already know how to make your genres' beats aside from mixing). It takes time .. alot of time.
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Curse you
And what?
Clickbait
i think i seen this trick on another channel