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we at happinessperkm love the RE twins. we honestly think they have redefined Indian motorcycling. our team has done over one lakh kilometres on the twins on all terrains and raring to go for more.
however they do have a few niggles and recurring issues and it will be fantastic if RE interacted with experienced riders and sorted these issues out.
we get inundated with the messages and so we made this video in what hopefully highlights some of the niggles and we really look forward to these being fixed.
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As always pure gold content🔥
Sir try to make a video on ur bikes, how many bike u've owned till now and how to take care and maintain multiple bikes...if possible
This would be great from ur point of view
Thanks Vickey 😊
Thanks Vickey for being such an ardent supporter. You make our journey, worthwhile
This comment is directed towards? I only have vintage bikes. So wondering if directed towards me😂
@@sraman31 obviously sir... more interested to listen from u on the experience with ur vintage asset...🙂especially roadking 🙏
@@bcm4247 will make one🙏
Guys lets tag RE and its CEO on Twitter to watch this video and let him answer our [problems
You are guys absolutely right, RE must take feedback from riders for what problems they face during the ride but they don't and it's a big mistake made by RE, But you guys are hopes of new beginning riders ,thank you so much guys 👍💐 I had Electra 350 RE & I love my bike 🤩
Your video absolutely made my weekend.
I genuinely want to thank the HOST for his time and energy to bring such incredibly real world knowledge oriented videos always.
God bless you and all our subscribers!
Thanks Sunny. Your kind words of appreciation are deeply appreciated 😊
Honoured bro. But then we always strive towards making motorcycling better
Very well put together issue in RE twin. RE should address all the issues raised by happinessperkm team. Specially, that warranty void issue..
Thanks for watching buddy. Hoping RE tunes in
A very simple suggestion to RE & all the other manufacturers is to employ Service Advisors who have ‘technical/mechanical background’ so that they have a sound understanding of what can be an actual problem.
My main complaint is that it's raining today and I can't ride my Interceptor ;-)
that’s a serious problem buddy. 😉
Good man :-)
My brother 🤘🏼!
You can ride it,, lol 😆
Meteor is product from RE because of Honda Highness... or else RE would be still cheating it’s customers...the day when Honda makes a Highness 650 twins, RE will think upgrading its 650s
Interesting take. Thanks for watching
Not too sure of that. RE is leading the pack, in India at least. Look at it this way, Honda would never have launched the highness in India if the Classic 350 was not making waves
Really Thanq for putting out these points 🙏 . RE must see this video and start working on it.
If these problem are being shorted out then RE 's 650 twins are the only Indian bike which we Indan are proud of .
Thank you ❤️
Hi Dhiraj. You nailed it. The twins can be absolute legends. Thanks for watching buddy
They're not problems only things YOU would like to see changed.
Yes Steve I agree, it's basically things we would like to see as changes in future but Sir I personally own a Gt 650 few weeks before my back tyre got three punctures 😭 luckily there was a type repair shop near by me.
What if it happened in middle of night 😭?? I even don't put any main stand 😭
Rest the bike is supper fun to ride
One of the best discussion I came across. Knowledgeable riders.
Thank you Rocky. Glad you enjoyed it
This discussion was important and justifies right from beginning till end..I also think the same way but not just with RE , unfortunately other manufacturers both 2&4 wheeler are also neglecting customers & customers loyal to a particular brand or model and their feedback or expectations are gradually becoming unimportant to manufacturers. Upgrades bring hope but RE has disappointed us all atleast with regards to utility. Newer Colors options no big deal. Brighter illumination, wobbling issues and better seats are what needs to be addressed first and foremost !
Thanks for watching
Very valid points...I myself is a int650 owner from April 2019 and have faced all these issues as highlighted in this video...👍👍
Thanks for watching buddy
Great content, can relate with most of the issues brought up by you.
I wish RE is listening!
Thanks a lot bud. Yes we wish RE listens !
This panel of riders definitely deserves a place in the Royal Enfield design team.
I wish RE media team is watching this and inclined to respect the critics and their heartfelt suggestion.
Thanks Sunny. We may not be qualified for that but we can surely give real world inputs to help them improve a good product to great ✌🏻
this conversation was really required dudes ...... hope RE will wake up to us rider's requirements and logically plan upgrades.
Yes buddy. It had to be said. And we are also hoping the next upgrade is meaningful 🤞🏻
Re is promising a new model for several quarters ahead. Future is always bright.
Guuuys I have a GT . Im 6ft 1inch tall . I find all your cons against the GT trivial. Its a CAFE , its more of a purest bike. I don't need all that bells and whistles crap. I love this Bike . Headlight you can change easily enough. If you want to improve the GT Give me full liter version other than that leave it alone !!!
I completely agree. The blog says just that. www.happinessperkm.com/blog/royal-enfield-twins-taken-for-a-ride-or-great-expectations
@@MrSsundararaman Ahhhh a enlightened man !
GT650 isn’t a touring bike. 2 mins on it and one can know it. i love the engine of the twins. but my needs are for a comfortable cruiser and meteor350 fits it perfectly. no doubt the engine isn’t powerful enough for me. but i can live with that. i would upgrade (not withstanding the increase in EMI ) if meteor comes with 650 engine
Don't buy a GT 650 then, simple.
I just started watching motorcycle content and by far your content is the most refined.
Thanks a lot.
RE guys just don't care to be listening to the riders it seems . i own a classic 500 desert storm bs4 and it has a plastic body fuel pump , it's nozzel keeps on breaking and its a common issue in bs4 500s . They seems to have forgotten this bike as it is out of production . without proper feedback its just a matter of time that their output(the bikes) will be out of 'caliberation' withought them knowing it. that will choke this brand to its grave.(i feel light now )..sighs. Still love this brand for waht it 'was'.
Sir, I own INTI-650 for 5 months with 4200 odd km on odo, it's a dream bike ride to date, but all negatives you ppl discussed is very minor issues. So clearly it means no issues on the engine, chassis, ride and parts so its definitely a good build right, so let's not be all negative about the bike or company but some issues like the customer support, knowledge of service engineer and some on electrical switches, tyre and headlight is very easy to fix which company may find a solution at the earliest for their own good I feel. This is my personal small understanding of RE service which is bad definitely at Mysuru and bike on the whole.
Yes it’s great bike and we love it. Just if RE fixed these issues. We would love it even more
@@happinessperkm 🙏😊
@@happinessperkm They are not issues, only things you would like done.
From POV of a neutral rider, buying a GT for touring and then complaining about the position? Wow
Agree bro
Understand The Word GT MEANS 🙌🏻😊
@@drchienholiao1183 Let alone the tag. An actual GT will never have low clip-ons :D...
Prime facie. Yes ur pov maybe, valid. Maybe ! But here in lies respecting the choice of an individual. If someone loves the GT enough to tour on it then why judge ? Live and let, Live. Motorcycling is a very personal sport / hobby we should respect riders and their choices ✌🏻
@@happinessperkm right but it doesn't mean the manufacturer should allow change in handlebar or for that matter any part swap
To each , his own . I personally love my gt 650 ,. It is one of the sexiest bikes in the whole world .
Love it !
At last someone on here with something decent to say, well done sir.
It's a brilliant episode, I always love the content of the channel, those real world problems are very real , BUT Manufacturer should acknowledge them and address it in there coming upgrades.
Point made on warty void , so typical , In Bangalore I faced the problem when we had the handlebar risers , Perhaps we taken out the risers, but still are not able to solve friend will wobbling issue.
Thanks a lot Shashi. Your words mean the world to us. 😊
The rant about the handlebar aside(since that is not forced upon you and is your choice which one to buy) , great points . RE should take note.
Thanks Kartik
These are absolutely spot on issues that kept me away from RE twins. I guess brand complacency and incompetency at ASC level is what needs to be looked upon by RE as a manufacturer. I hope they learn a little from such in-depth , head-on and honest points raised by Ashish and other before its too late.
The RE twins are good but they deserve to be one of the best .
Cheers to happinessperkm for yet another fabulous and informative discussion.
Thanks Rahul
They ARE one of the best.
I was interested in hearing real problems. But sadly, I have to say I think the points made in this video while quite valid, were more specifically personal gripes and complaints that don’t really reflect the quality of the bike what so ever.
I don’t think a bike is lower quality due to tube tyres, or that the bike is any less because doesn’t include the new Tripper pod. Or that the tyres are wider or narrower. Or that you buy a cafe racer but complain about the comfort, but blame the name of it being misleading. I’ll agree a GT should be comfortable. But it’s not difficult to see that this GT would not be comfortable.
I’m sorry, but this feels like a bunch of guys just having a big sook.
That’s one way to look at it and we respect your opinion. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@@happinessperkm thanks guys.
Enjoy the bikes for what they are. This is what the manufacturer has given us. There’s no point in complaining that yours doesn’t comes with a tripper or wider tyres or different handlebars, and so.
Fully agreed.
Ashish - you are a marketeer, me as a sales guy - Joh bik Raha hai, why change it - change will increase the price - sales may drop - my boss shall start flogging my arse for numbers (now he just hits it with a scale) - jokes apart - the common funda that is the norm is - IF IT IS SELLING, DO NOT FIX IT!! - You know it, I know it (we have spent some years together) - on the other hand - I liked the comment on the modding part - its a fantastic option - RE should have had all the possible mods available at their showroom to mod the bike - are the deaf not to hear the cash registers clanging!! We all know margins on accessories is huge - just imagine, ex showroom cost 2.5L, average mod cost per bike sold 30K (just a figure / could be much higher if managed well) - Sid Lal would go deaf as the cash registers would be making so much noise!!!
Bravo. Now sales VS marketing - it’s all in the same boat. The twins are fab and if these niggles are fixed they can be legends. Already lots of guys are put off by the wobbles etc. Leadership is the ask here by RE. Show it that Indian brands and manufactures can be the best and they can be. Thanks for watching buddy
It's pretty simple the way I see it. Sales is happening and therefore there is no reason to change anything in the mix. Vis-a-vis we need to keep the sales up AND blaze a path.
Very well said . The only upgrade RE can give is colour change. Have not visited the showroom after my 500km 1 service . 😂😂😂
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One like for the comment " Upgrade is coming in different colors " Seriously I was waiting for at least the Tripper to be included
😁 They are great bikes which can be great. Thanks for watching buddy
Wait till ur life time
😁
@@muthuram1954 Please don't be such a sadist....it gives me butterflies knowing that I will be ownings this beauty in a while..... intezar ka fal mitha hota hai buddy ;-)
nice stuff ! Re: Warranty I have slip-on exhausts on my int650, got into problems with the sensors and engine going off they fixed it without creating warranty issues !
Which slip ons do you have? The problem you mentioned is rare....
@@happinessperkm i am saying that slip ons did not cause issues with warranty .. problem was something else though.
Ok
Top notch quality content. The issues were summed up and put together in a very understandable manner. Hope RE addresses these issues at the earliest. Anyways Great job guys....Liked and Subscribed! Looking forward for more videos
Thanks a lot Sagar. Appreciate your words of encouragement 😊
Exactly the issues I am facing. There's no hazard on option in this 3.5 lakh rupee machine. I'm 25 and really love the classic machines, I'm okay with spokes and halogens. But why they didn't change that bloody hell uncomfortable seat in the new version. And also at night, when I stay roadside, I really miss the hazard.
We feel you brother
There are nice comfy stitched aftermarket seats better than what they're offering at a better price bro.
The alloy wheels are like "VIKAS' promised but never came.
Lol
Ha ha
😂
I'm in the same dilemma. I want to buy the GT650 because it looks great. I love the tank shape and rear seat cowl, so that I don't have to give lift to other people, plus it looks cool.
I just wish that they offered it with Interceptor handlebar and better lights.
RE dealerships in US and UK do a lot of customisations to the bikes. Just yesterday I went to a dealership to ask if they could do the changes that I need after I buy the bike, they looked at me as if I killed someone.
I'm a new biker but I want to buy something that lasts me 10-20 years. This may be the only bike that I buy, not considering the used one that I have now to learn riding.
Now slowly I'm moving towards BMW G310GS, but because it isn't a parallel twin like the GT650, it doesn't matter if it's a 310cc or 200cc, so I'm edging towards Xpulse.
From GT650 to Xpulse, it's a big leap, and both are so different. But Xpulse has LED lights and comfortable seats for long journeys.
GT has my heart, but my ass needs better seats, arms and back need higher handle bar and eyes need better visibility at night.
Apart from that, the engine soundtrack is like music to my ears and smooth engine and always on twist power are what I really need even though I'm only gonna ride in Shimla for the rest of my life.
Hi. The GT inspite of its niggles is an unbeatable package at the price. Having said that the 310gs is bmw quality and the Xpulse is the go anywhere. Of the lot if it’s only city riding then the GT is looker + max grunt.
@@happinessperkm I have to do a bit of everything. I'm from Shimla. So there is a bit of offroading sometimes, but mostly riding up and down a hill on smooth roads with some potholes and a lot of sharp corners.
Important video. Hope @royal enfield you watch this and understand what the riders are trying to say. We love the twins but please fix the issues please. It will make the twins even more awesome
Does the rpm issue that u mentioned still exist?
There are no issues, your getting mixed up with personal preferences. Things that YOU want on the bike not ALL of us.
Yes
Fair enough
Im still waiting to get the issues fixed from RE which r discussed above from last 1 yr....once done will surely buy one.
There's a Need of JD POWERS Customer Satisfaction Survey for Bikes/2Wheelers as Well like the Cars . . 🤗
It used to be there. Discontinued from 2019, I think. And honestly any consumer facing brand if it needs to hear feedback from a UA-cam video then the horse called ‘Satisfaction’ has already bolted 😏
Additionally,
In the Interceptor 650 the foot pegs are just below the rider...
so in stand still condition of traffic the pegs scratch through the calf of the rider!!
Thanks 😊
Let's accept , this bike is only selling because we do not have any twin cylinder 650 cc at this price point.
Rest all is just fake praises.
The amount customers spent to make this bike perfect says it all .
On top of it when you try to make it perfect , warranty gets affected.
What hurts the most is Customer service.
Fair points made. Twins can be legends. Only if RE paid more attention to what riders are saying
Bingo.. Dude I think you nailed it
Guys, understand this...the target audience for the twins is UK primarily and the west. They are the ones who were exposed to the original interceptor marque of the sixties, not us, and this is for them, to kindle nostalgia in them. No wonder then, that the twins are the largest selling bikes in the UK. So, to cater to desi audience RE will/may launch a separate bike, but they aren't going to fiddle with this one. The goras love it, and they'll get what they love.
Interesting pov. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
RE make a engine keep adding new colours ..flog the horse till ita dead....then when people are super irritated on a update launch one new colour again....anyways I too own a twin..it's a fantastic bike...but completely agree on all the issues you bought out...at times it feels like complete stupidity on part of RE to not include such simple updates which .makes life more comfortable..And ups the ownership experience..they always don't go the full way always and always fall short it's always 98 percent never 100....goes for all models bhai paisa kamao..but take care of the community which has made RE what it is today
Thanks for watching ✌🏻
right said guys, we need to put these issue to light...
Why u guys still holding the banyan problem tree. Sell and shrug off. Brawling in india will bring nothing
😁✌🏻
Perfectly conveyed all the feelings experienced by an owner
Thanks 😊 for watching
Ashish ji.....agree with you twins are absolutely wonderful machines but RE attitude shooed me away from a purchase. They need to listen & react to their customers both at the same time. Or else they might end up the Harley way .
Thanks for watching
Was intending to get myself an int650 as soon as the lockdown ends but this has made me put my plans on hold..guess I'll have to be patient and wait for the upgrades if at all it is coming..as for the wheel, I hate alloys on motorcycles though it may have its numerous advantages..and especially for a retro bike like the int, alloys are a total no no..and i wish they would give the option to opt for chrome wheels instead of the blacked out rims..
Hear u buddy. Yes waiting seems the good thing to do. Only thing is don’t know when the upgrades are out
I guess the root problems wrt warranty issues is at the ASC end, and not actually at the company level... claiming 'warranty issues' is probably the easiest way to shirk away from troublesome additional work!
Interesting point made
@@happinessperkm I ride a '16 535GT, enjoying "'happiness every km'" for the last 5 years... and RE has actually fulfilled my warranty claims multiple times... what mattered was the right attitude and ability of the ASC rep to comprehend the problem projected by the customer... and such people are not many!
Hey Deb. Delighted to hear. The 535 is a lot of fun. Happy to hear your ASC helps. Wishing you more happinessperkm 😊
Real valuable stuff. Eye opening for someone who really wanna upgrade his motorcycle/passion...to next level. Keeping aside the design... hard to listen the invaluable service for a high value machine...
Thanks 😊 buddy.
Starting with good part, I got call from RE R&D department the call duration was more than 1 Hour, they asked me everything about my experience of GT and what I would like to have in the machine, moving to bad part, then 2021 variants came and nothing was new/improved except colors! Really!!!!
I do not aligned with personal issues of Shreyansh and Mr. Berry (no offense brothers 🙏) they are confused, buying a cafe racer and trying to do long tours... sorry, it's not RE issue. GT is intended for short rides, if your rear and shoulders are strong please take it to tour and not complained about it 😉
Delighted to know that you got a call. Some others did as well. If the calls were an exercise to make a diff in the product then we should have seen it by now. And Live n let live. Let all ride their bikes as they deem fit. It’s a very personal thing a motorcycle. Live and let live buddy.
@rahul - I am well aware about the usage of a GT and my reason to change the handlebar was not to make it touring friendly but to change the form of the motorcycle from a cafe to a brat because last year I had bought a Thruxton R and there was no need for another cafe racer.
My main issues as I mentioned in the video are
- unavailability of spares.
- r18 rims
- absence of a center stand in the GT despite it being pricier than the INT.
Etc.
the demand for an upper t clamp may be personal to me but other things are not.
@@sumitberry14 Unavailability of spares is an issue, I have dealt it with too 😬
My guess, they want to make GT light for performance by not putting a central stand, as GT's are more for performance. Although, I got installed on mine from RESC for the reason of repairing tyre if it get flat on a bad day and offcourse it make bike maintenance easy.
Thanks for putting most of common issues in one video HPK team.
Hi Rahul,
Thanks for your comment, the point I raised was related to the riding triangle and under thigh support, as you know I am tall and heavy built guy and because of this under thigh support is must... I know many fellow GT riders who has ridden GT for more then 20,000 kms and most of them was long tours so we cannot say that it's not a Touring bike. My point was, their has to be some update in terms of touring seat which should be wide enough for better support on long tours. I hope I am able to explain my point now somehow it got missed in the video.
Absolutely Pure content.... Unfortunately there are still few more technical issues for example The electronic sensors, Fuel cap seal, Throttle cables, etc etc...!! The point is, i request to explore more issues and discuss it through this platform. Thank you ❤️
Thanks 😊 you so much ! Comments like yours keep us going…
The ASC as always is under trained ,there is no proper training process in place , they are inexperienced guys who are gotten as cheap labour in most of the workshops,this is the true sad story of RE since years ,most authentic RE owners always end up going to the trust old mechanic. My frat RE is a TBTS 350 back in 2009 as a 19 year old i was new to REs and had a minor oil seepage issue on my engine head , the inexperienced imbecile of the workshop fellow opened up my upper engine completely and confidently tells me that he has changed the head gasket and now there should be no leakage ,upsetting as it was to get a brand new engine opened up i came home only to see the same oil leakage ,after making a lot of noise with the company a chief engineer was summoned and turned the issue was of small 10₹ worth rubber washer ,well that was 11-12years ago where RE was a small chugging brand .its a shame that now that its made a global footprint but the legacy of inexperienced and Ill trained ASC still carries on. By the way out here in Bombay we are not bullied by the ASC about warranty issues when change the mufflers of add aux lights without hampering the circuitry. But the poor quality if after sales service is a absolutely unacceptable. ASC is good for basic service and issues but for technical issues i still trust my good old mechanic with his garage in the market! Having said that its still a pleasure to own an RE ,as of now i own 3 REs a GT 535 , an INT650 and a TBTS 350
Cheers 🥂
Hey Rashid. Your love of motorcycles are your RE stable is well known. Thanks a lot for sharing your passion with us. Much appreciated 😊
@@happinessperkm thank you 😊 ,lets hope that RE lives upto our expectations someday in the after sales front ,most of us riders have seen it grow from being a niche brand known for its bullet to be a cult that it is now!
Additionally,
In the Interceptor 650 the foot pegs are just below the rider...
so in stand still condition of traffic the pegs scratch through the calf of the rider!!
Very nice video ...
Hope RE listens to the riders feedback
Their area manager is not knowing anything. Their serv cntr mechanics has zero knowledge. Lots lots more. I m very well screwed by area manager nd service centre. I have decided to sell this bike. I had lots of worst exp.
Oho that is sad to know. Wish it could be different. Feel for you buddy
When you want a perfect bike with all the features and you want all this with paying less money. You want a great bike you have to pay more. At this point this is great with its imperfections. They have problem with lights, info cluster, then guys you should have bought triumph.
Well said sir, they want everything but don't want to pay for it. Let them pay Triumph prices & see how they get on with that.
Wr have done that as well... Will come out with issues there as well.
Our point is to be focussed.
This is about RE twins.
There will be another about the Triumph if needed.
No one from RE called me back till date to understand my problem. One call I get is Sir your Service is due for Bullet 350 cc. There are no dedicated technicians or properly trained mechanics for Interceptor or GT 650.
Yes they have their hands full. Hope they figure it out soon.
I think these fellows are missing a couple very important points. First is that when a manufacturer is building a product that is selling well enough that they can't keep them in stock at their distributors....what incentive do they have to 'improve' on them? You can't build enough to satisfy the demand....so put your efforts into building MORE...not making changes! When/if the sales volume begins to wane...THEN you bring out the 'New and Improved' version to spur sales back up again.
Many bikes are produced with a long term plan in place.....you don't 'shoot your whole wad' so to speak on the first iteration. Make it good enough to make people want to buy it, but leave room for improvements, and RE has done a fine job on the 650's by keeping the price down and making the bike simple. This is why it's selling....and the fact that it's a damn good bike also responsible but nobody thinks they are perfect. The suspension works OK...but can be improved. The motors run great...but also can be improved. I could go on that different things here and there could be better...but 'better' would almost certainly mean 'more expensive' and with every unit selling as fast as they can build them...why would anyone in their right mind do this?
With this being said...whining that it doesn't have this or that....if you want those things...BUY THEM and put them on!! You get the satisfaction of personalizing the bike and can do these improvements as your finances allow. If the 650's had every improvement that could be made on them they'd cost about what a Ducati Scrambler costs, so buy the Interceptor/GT and make improvements in time as you enjoy riding the bike...rather than going deep into debt or waiting another year or two to be able to afford the bike.
I LOVE the Interceptor! But I've also done some mods to make it better for what I want and don't blame RE whatsoever for not offering the bike as I've made mine. I appreciate that I got a good price on the bike and can spend the extra I saved on mods that I want...not that some committee decided to include. Simple sells when it's in the Retro-Classic category.
Thanks for watching
While i feel there are some valid complains here.. the beauty of Royal Enfield bikes have always been its easy customisations.
You can slapped on any piece of gears and it would still looks good. Why would any company change something if it is selling so well ?
The Word is IMPROVE, Not Change 🙌🏻😊
The Word is IMPROVE, Not Change 🙌🏻😊
Himalayan is D Only bike wae D frame is at a right(90’) Angle at D bottom near D guard plate ! No other adv Bike in D world has.It should be at 45 ‘, RE sd change
I don't see it making a difference on the maneuverability. The Himalayan is probably a better balanced than any of the other Enfields.
Left side of the engine creates noise more than the right side.. i really observed on some bikes and also on mine bs4 model. And front forks also creates Annoying noise on going through rough road patches ans also on every potholes
Do get ur tappet setting checked.
@@happinessperkm it has been checked twice by the service guys, and when the engine heats up the noise increases.
Hmmm. Any issues in riding ? It’s a twin so the sound will always feel uneven. If there are issues then write to support@royalenfield.com and request them to check it, again.
@@smarty007shekhar007 There's a ticking sound anyways. Nothing to worry about sir. Actually after heating, the engine oil becomes thin and hence the movement of the tappets inside can be heard. If the tappet sound is there when you cold start the bike then it's time for adjustments
@@happinessperkm Front forks are also not good, they also produce noise on uneven patches, i want to change the handlebars as you also changed (RD type)
The warranty rule in Europe and other foreign markets for twins is way more lenient. Moreover, the only way a foreign market consumer can void the warranty, if there is any change in regards to chassis/structure and the engine. The company is not at all transparent, there are potential buyers for this bike, who have booked it in the month of November 2020, still haven't got the delivery, i booked it in Feb'21. No word yet from the manufacturer, except the word from Sales rep "sir, the production itself has not started". RE has restricted its production line upto 2 - 3 models for a Quarter/ half. Their strategy is very opaque, think about it from pune they have about 10 + showrooms with atleast 20 -25 bookings(10k each) from each showroom, think about the interest they have earned for a Quarter. The fact that, these bikes are made to order and RE's aspiration to become a segment leader are two conflicting thoughts. Plus the pandemic lockdowns, soon rainy season will start. No point of taking the bike then. Planning to cancel the booking and wait for the new actual updated iteration.
Hey Gautam. Yes these are the kind of issues that RE must, address !
@hapinessperkm team ....u guys have very good content n keep up the good work , unlike other stupid bloggers who keep talking rubbish stuff n all ...
Thanks a lot Umesh. 😊
Cmon guys...RE is doing us a favour by providing these beauties under 4 lakhs. These are the best u can find...pls dont compare it to the meteor. These are REAL bikes with parallel twin heart. And GT is a true blooded cafe racer. Yes main stand is a must. Who wants equipment when ur bike rides like a dream. I own a Jawa classic and now im getting a GT soon
One more problem imo is RE increasing the price of the bike, within one year they have already increased it by i guess around 10k and that too imo degrading the tires cuz now even the outex kit wont work with ceat and you need to go for a different set of tires if you want tubeless. Now the company executives tell me they are gonna increase the price again in the next 4 months to sell me the bike XD.
Rightly said Namir. Thanks for watching
Completed 2 Years and 13,000KM's on my Interceptor 650. It seems the issues discussed in this video are the collectives of each and every owner/riders facing on Twins. Ofcourse there's no doubt that Twins comes in a Package as a Bike in a Price Band currently other brands could not even sell their Twin Cylinder Engine.
But as a Customer to RE and a Owner of this Bike, I feel company need to address the issues atleast in the form of Optionals or Upgrades. It's over Two and Half years and Tons of Reviews and Requests made to RE both officially and on Social Media. But they are not coming out with any solution.
It's high time for RE to address it and gain confidence of Customers and help Rider's to Tour comfortably.
Hey Ananth. Yes it high time that RE started assuaging riders but fixing some if not all of these issues
I am facing the front end wobbling issue which starts at a speed of 60km/hr. and is prominent up to 80 km/hr. on my int.
One more point I like to put is knowledge of the sales team at showroom. I have seen some of them don’t know the difference between Gt touring seat and int touring seat.
Have heard of this. That means the T has been over torqued. It has been messed with for sure, hence this issue. Please have it torqued at the service center at the service center to the correct specifications.
Or
The bearings have broken.
Thanks for sharing
RE sales the bikes only. After selling no spares u will get. Because of center stand I can't lub my chain and puncture repair s ohhhh shit.....
Feel your pain buddy.
Inspite of new colour options in 2021 RE should have atleast given us tubeless tires
Yes agreed
GT can be used in sports catagory bike or car ,,,meaning of this is a kind of sports bike or car that can be used for touring...
The best video I saw in the last two years. Truly all my issues. I can feel it literally 🙏😔
Hey Aseem. Thanks for buddy and we feel you buddy. Hoping the next upgrade by RE fixes these
I have a question i have already booked gt rocked red should i cancel and book meteor????? My purpose will be daily commuting to office 100 k/m and touring on weekends
GT is more enjoyable to ride or so we think 😊
Plz share this video link, and customers genuine reviews about problems which are faced by valuable customers of RE twins on RE official you tube channel comment box
and i would advice to read the book. indian icon a cult called royal enfield. it will help understand the mentality of the company. from that i deduced that the company needed a best seller 650 werent that. thats why they have shifter focus back to upgrading their main sellers 350.
mere pass sunset strip color hai usme clutch wire ke upar rust spot hai fir tanks pe handlebar ke niche tank ke edges pe hai fir saree gaurd pe bhi 1-2 spots hai kya karna chaiye help
Fabulous content. Really hope someone from RE is watching this.👍👍👍
Thanks a lot Ajitabh.
I'm the GT 650 BS 6 owner. I ordered center stand before 1 yr. Dealers are saying" coming soon" for last one year😭😭😭. RE website says same thing about alloy wheels. bloody """" COMING SOON,"""'.
The pandemic has created chaos across the supply chain. But yes. They should inform
Realy i m planned to buy this but nw i should think.... RE??????!
Twins are still a very good package. The issues are solvable provided RE delivers.
Don't...
Honestly, from a value for money perspective you can't get better
This is only a wish list
Frustated RE owner sharing you the experience don't go for twins and RE bikes. After buying you have to wait for couple of years for spares. By that time your bike will go to scrap.😭😭😭 I'm cursing my self for choosing this poor spare supply manufacturer.
Sigh. It’s a legacy that RE must fix.
Sir I am big fan of RE all bikes , but due to budget I went for Hero Xpulse 200 and I am satisfied with it . Meteor came in 2020 still it is above 2 lacs I bought Xpulse bs4 in 2019 for only 1.25 lacs .
Oh the Xpulse is fab. We love that motorcycle
@@happinessperkm Thanks Sir, We can have a ride some day i am in chattarpur
@@happinessperkm also for head light xpulse led light is also not that good for highways i installed fog lights to get better visibility. RE is charging alot from all bikes but features are less. Now when Honda, KTM , Hero came in competition they launched meteor , but meteor is also not that loaded with features that Honda cb provides for same price. Hope RE is watching these videos else it will be hard for them to survive in this tough competition
Well said dear friend. Absolutely spot on
#GT guy is #wrong absolutly..blaming GT650 for #agressive riding posture.
wat u see is wat you get.. its the agrressive riding posture of GT that makes is distinct and fun to ride. u just cant buy a #hayabusa and expect a riding position of HarleyDavidson😂😂 #Funny
I always wanted to be a rider but never did, thanks to my rockstar brother, Ashish Bahl, I'm living it. This is a brilliant episode. Way to go brother and many many more rides for you.❤️ I'm now understanding the bikes better.
Thank you happiness perkm, may you keep shining and riding. God bless.
Thanks a lot Ashima. You mean the world to Ashish and everyone at happinessperkm thank your support 😊
Ashima, is that you?!
Hey Angad. Are you from Sanawar ? If so then yes it’s, Ashima.
@@happinessperkm I’ll be damned. Small world! Known Ashima since I was in britches.
Wow. Indeed it’s a small world and motorcycling made it even better 😊
Does it make really sense ?? Warranty On the after market modifications, well I agree few things I agree but not all, again Man how can a authorised dealer support Modifications officially how can you complain
Let’s take the same example bar end mirror, how can a company agree for third party installation , you think it is a high end mirror but who has validated that, so dealer and company has done their duty of informing you. Again what is the guarantee that after you install the third party bar end mirror the handles are intact and does not create problems. So that is the reason you need to put at your risks. RE IS THE ONLY BIKE WHICH SUPPORTS MODIFICATION BUT WARRANTY WILL BE VOID IF YOU DO SO, does Harley support such modifications, no right then why only RE to support that
@@happinessperkm I have edited that accordingly
Hi Narendra,
Thanks for watching the video, you can also go through the blog written on the same subject, it's a 5 min read only.
www.happinessperkm.com/blog/royal-enfield-twins-taken-for-a-ride-or-great-expectations
Like you said, we also think consumer expectations are high. But in this interview, we wanted to find out perceptions about the vehicle and what "issues" they perceive as unacceptable.
The twins are a wonderful machine the problem is royal enfield is the manufacturer. I mean look at that honda bigwing and their service that is very professional there now dont know what will happen at future.even a single cylinder honda highness gets wonderful after sale service.
Interesting take and yes it’s got a solid ring to it ✌🏻
I wish a diss video on motor vehicle rules should also be made. One cant modify their vehicles to give it personal touch n personality in India.
Somehow guys from Kerala and Punjab have succeeded in dodging police but the instant u feel like going a performance mods or paint scheme, u r like road pe nikaal sakta hu ya ab drawing room ki shobha badhayegi ye.
Love this content. Hit the nail right on the head. I have been putting off buying an RE for years now because RE has always cut corners in terms of quality and practicality. The warranty void issue is so real that you can't even upgrade but ironically they encourage the custom builders to do it but not their customers. The tube tires are just a crime on this motorcycle and such heavy exhausts and so wide?
Thanks for watching 😊✌🏻
Nice use of English I can finally whatch an Indian video. When people speak Hindi, I just can't understand a thing so I'm forced to reproduce another video.
To all the gentlemen, you are giving out true value through your videos. Hats off!! This is the most discussed topic between any REtwin enthusiasts, but such gem of a discussion was truely needed. I hope it will reach to the required people in RE for everyone's sake.
And again, please keep it up with such content and we are already happy and blessed to be witnessing this.
Also, how Ashish is so deeply involved with his motorcycle is a gold standard for any biker! You have given us hope sir. 😊
Cheers! ✌🏻
Thanks Prathamesh. Humbled by your words. Much appreciated. And the entire team of happinessperkm is like Ashish. Madly passionate about motorcycling and our bikes ✌🏻
Man machine terrain.
Holy Trinity
We work on these.
We love motorcycling.
Need we say more?
I own Interceptor 650 and done about 15k km and yes the bike is AWESOME but to be honest after sale service is worst. The same way how Asiah sir said that the bike losses its RPM in 6th gear and above 120 KMPH when heated up,I have the same issue in my bike too and I have visited more then 3 service center and they say need to clean Throttle body. So I have cleaned 2 times but the result is the same and yes this word WARRANTY VOID is too frustrating for the riders like us who tour I have faced it 2 times in my Ownership. Have many thing to write about this bike but this is more than enough to write in comments. 😅
totally agree, but i changed all the Halogen lights to LED, installed Simtack Hazard flasher, installed MadDog Aux lights & did many more things no warranty issue to mee till now..
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kitna rona hai in logo ka, dude go buy a Yamaha if you want 'perfect'! Enfields were ,is and will always be about the heart, rifles and motorcycles! 🤘🏼
Does the rpm issue that u mentioned still exist?
Yes.
@@happinessperkm have you tried changing the chain as the chain has run its course?
Yes - Ashish changed his chain at 23,000 km with the stock DID which is actually a top quality chain
@@happinessperkm Then how is he planning on touring if the problem still exists? Shouldnt it be looked by an senior engineer at RE or something.
@@monkww 🤣, it's been at the technical Center for the past 2 months. They are still trying to get a handle on it (pun intended)
Also the interceptor seats are a pain. Max comfort is 60 Km.
The grips are thin and vibrating so much that the hands go numb.
Totally agreed
i see that meteor is only upgraded with all features is simply because of the competition in 350cc segment - CB 350 , jawa . The 650 twins surely will get too ...soon
Yes twins should get too 🤞🏻
Mean while Yezdi is about to lunch a 650..
I'm sure many will be going for that.
Hope RE doesn't loose it's spot.
I've booked an interceptor 650, after this video shall I switch to Adv 390?
Completely diff platforms. If u want a lighter and more off road bias compared to the twins then ktm 390 adv is better. But if u like Tarmac more then the twins
That's what I plan on doing
I'll be riding mostly on tarmac
@@bahl88 Thank you so much for replying
Suggest test ride both. 390 adv is quite comfy but diff looking / genre
I don't care about all these issues with twins because it really seems like minor issues when compared to the package we are receiving. But it really feels bad when the flagship bike has fewer features than the much cheaper bikes like classic and meteor. But I know one thing for sure RE will bring the updated version of the twins and they are going to bring the cruiser too with 650cc at that time they will update twins too, and definitely, they are going to exceed 4lacs and the top variant will be around 5lacs but it will be more premium than now.
Hi. It’s been 3 years since launch of the twins. Upgrades are brilliant when they are ahead of the needs-consumer gap else they become a pain by the time they come. The twins needs to fix the minor issues and become true legends.
Excellent discussion..loved it..guys keep coming with such chats..superb..
Thanks for watching
Correctly pointed out.. And there are other problems like faulty fuel meter, awkward positioning of front and pillion footpegs, smaller capacity of the battery, tyre wobble, list seems endless.. Hope RE listens..
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All the issues discussed/faced are absolutely legitimate, the rider who spends so much would not hesitate to pay a little more to get these issues sorted (if it's about the money)..!
Ashish is so articulate about the small niggles affecting the reputation of such a great machine, hope Siddhartha Lal is listening..!!!
Thanks for watching buddy. Imagine if it were the other way round. If the maker put his hand up and said we will fix this. Imagine the brand love it would create. It will happen one day. It has to.
@@happinessperkm Amen..
i have a int650.. i faced issue with side stand sensor.. motorcycle starts when it is neutral as you put it in any gear it shuts down and won't start.. you cannot cutoff side stand sensor circuit. you cannot fix it on the go. Had to tow the bike and take it to the service center ..very frustrating experience..
Loved the use cases guys! absolutely agree with all the pointers, kudos. so relatable.
Someone had to say this about the customer service situation.
Thanks Johan. Yes it had to be said ✌🏻
@@happinessperkm appreciate the work you guys are doing for the community. Kudos!
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