Where Do We Go From Here?
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- We are Brian & Jessica, a married couple who started on a life-changing whole food, plant-based journey back in June 2018. In June 2022, our lives were flipped upside-down when Jessica was diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer at age 36. Since then we welcomed our very first child via gestational carrier and bought a new house! In May 2024, our lives took another major turn when Brian was diagnosed with renal cell carcinoma at age 41.
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I really appreciate these honest sit down videos. Life isn't perfect, people aren't perfect. It's refreshing to see the messiness sometimes. We're all just doing the best we can. ❤
Aint that the truth
I’m carnivore/ketovore and I still watch you because I care about your lives. I was plant based for 5 years. I could have remained that way & thats when I started watching. Plant based did cause me some issues and some have improved once switching. But I still enjoy your channel!
I'll keep coming! I was Whole Food Plant Based for 6 years. Then my doctor convinced me to eat meat/eggs again because of my age, and some medical issues. But I will forever follow you kids! Love you both!
You need to change your doctor. That advice just robbed you from more hears to live.
I was plant based when I started following you. Now I am keto/carnivore but I continue to watch because I want to see your sweet lives unfold. Thank you for sharing your lives with us!
Same here! Started keto and intermittent fasting 9 months ago. Have lost 40kg. I'm never hungry and I'm just 10kg short of my goal weight. I highly recommend it!
I just love listening to you two share life. I am about 90% whole food plant based, never make it to 100%. It’s ok, striving to make healthier choices.
I'm commenting on your Title before watching. You two are the most beautiful, kind people on UA-cam. Your story has touched many people. Hopefully, no matter what, you will continue sharing your story and making a difference. *Watching now and will comment again :)
I've been trying to be on a WFBP journey for years, but have never achieved perfection. I've been battling cancer for over six years. Seeing your honesty and vulnerability makes me appreciate your channel even more.
Take care of yourself.
I love that you keep it real. Ive been working on the plant based diet for 3 years and have had set backs with health and other issues. I so very happy to see you guys again on UA-cam 💕
You speak to the point of nostalgic foods and trying to recreate them as vegan is normal for many of us. I'm more than 5 years without meat or dairy and there are still times I miss the foods that celebrate life - hot dogs on the 4th of July are real. Eating closer to the plant is the goal for us all - and we don't need to beat ourselves up when we fall. Your transparency and authenticity is why I keep watching. Keep doing that! ❤
Wishing you the best as you work towards getting back to your whole foods/plant based diet. We all have to do what we can find success in. I love my meat, so usually watching carbs and calories brings me the most positive results.
I have loved watching you both deal with your cancer journeys and your willingness to be vulnerable with your followers. I am SO VERY HAPPY that you're both doing well right now. 🙏❤️
I’m 73. Been through a lot of diet and lifestyle hits and misses in my day. Started following you guys before the cancer hit Jessica. I saw a short video the other day where one of these fitness guru drs said that a 7/10 sustainable diet path is better than a 10/10 unsustainable path, meaning that 70 percent of the time you can tow the mark but don’t give up if you deviate momentarily. Perfect is nice and some people can follow a plan perfectly. I can’t, so, 7/10 makes sense to me. I definitely lean towards the WFPB being a very healthy way to go. I am definitely going to continue to follow you two to see how it goes!
You’ve both been through so much with your serious illnesses, and becoming parents. I don’t know how anyone could have anything but compassion for you both!
The internet can be a very cruel place.
A lot of the "perfect " people quit and give up. I love your honesty and determination. Your "imperfections" show us that we all struggle and not to give up. Thank you for your sincerity❤❤❤
This is not a project; it’s a process. NO ONE is perfect on this side of Heaven. I have found, actually, that not being so strict has helped me stay the course for almost 13 years. I have a line-I always eat vegan. However, I don’t always eat whole foods. You be you. When you slide, reach out for help. You’ve got this! I love your honesty.
I watch you two because you are very real. I feel like I’ve been through a major journey with you including lots of hiccups and lovely intervals. It doesn’t matter how you decide to be healthy- you do what works for you. It’s your character that comes through that means a lot to me. ❤
Thanks for being perfect imperfect examples! I love that you are so willing to include everyone but also to challenge us to be better! You are great examples and thank you!❤️❤️❤️❤️
You guys are the best.
We all struggle with our existing eating habits and some may be closer to our goal weight and lifestyle than others.
Appreciate hearing your struggle, especially as you struggle together as a couple.
Keeping it REAL! Always GOOD!
Thank you for talking about this!
I am a meat and dairy person but love learning about an alternative lifestyle and from you both that make me smile! You are loved❣️🇨🇦💐
"We have a very open relationship." Anyone who has been watching Krocks in the Kitchen for any length of time knew exactly what Brian meant--and didn't mean. But it was still a fun slip of the tongue.
I love this. I'm glad you're human!
Love this video and love you two! I was that close to perfect wfpe-sofas free person for the first 2+ years eating this way, then colon issues became such an issue that I chose to go down the path of eating more fast food(taco bell) and it's been a genuine struggle to get back to no oil, salt, and sugar. I've gained 35-40 lbs of the 100 I lost in the process. I need real people like you to talk about your health and the struggles you've gone through to see that I'm normal.
I’m not whole food nor plant based, but I love the vibe of your channel and following your story. The honesty you share with “we have issues with food” is something I totally relate to, and I can find motivation with how you are open, honest, and move forward with the challenges you experience in your lives and how it impacts your health journey. Keep up the great videos!
What I love about you two is that you are great examples of being human which gives everyone else the feeling that we all can just do the best we can do with where we are. I think that is really important. I'm an Ayurvedic Practitioner which works from an elemental perspective like Chinese Medicine ~ from this perspective you are both "kapha" (earth & water). These types often will have more struggles with keep weight down. It's more than possible, but there is a whole thing going on here. I commend your commitment and honesty.
People get side tract when they think they can’t be 100%. I know after a year I went away from it all because I missed blue cheese! Instead of me allowing it back in and still keeping the course. Focusing on plant base is so healthy! Glad you’re back, love your recipes!
Imperfect person here. 😊 I appreciate your honesty and vulnerability.
Yes. Thanks for the update. Nine years plant-based for me and I also haven't been a perfect example of vegan holiness, LOL. We do the best we can. Glad to see you posting again and I'm looking forward to seeing what's next for you! I've also started filming and planning to bring more recipes soon. Cheers!
@ThePotThickens. After reading your comment here I went to your UA-cam channel and now can’t wait to try your Ban Mi Chay Vietnamese sandwich using your baguette bread recipe. Our little Vietnamese shop nearby makes a vegetarian one with tofu, but I want to try yours with the soy curls and walnut pate. Sounds delicious! Glad to hear you plan to start filming again. Will be watching for more videos.
Everyone is different & has different needs - that’s fine. I feel great when I’m WFPB but I don’t want to be limited by that particularly if I eating out so for me I try to stick to 80/20. I love that you keep it real & show the journey ❤
I watch your channel because I enjoy you two and now the baby❤
“Open relationship” 😂😂😂 you two crack me up.
Progress over perfection. Love your videos.
Love you guys!
Keto/intermittent fasting/extended fasting/low dose compounded Tirzepatide. The science is all coming together, and it works for weight loss and overall healing of the body.
So good to catch up with your family. Congrats on baby
I totally relate to you. I went all in in 2018. Lost weight. Exercise. The whole shebang. Said I’d never go back. And I have. Struggling to get back on track. Still plant-based, besides sweets. My downfall. Always has been. Trying to find my way back as well. Give yourself grace. You’re still eating better than the majority of America. ❤. Glad you both are healthy and happy.
This is super realistic, and helpful. Thank you. Hey Peef!
Hey you guys. I am recommitting here with you. I turn fifty in a couple of weeks, and I cant think of a better time to do make permanent changes for myself. WFPB for the win.
One thing I have done lately is to get very plain and basic with my meals. I might spice the heck out of them, but beans with a little rice, some steamed chopped kale or spinach, and a yellow vegetable on the side is just about as good as it gets.
I totally agree plus it’s expensive. One day at a time it’s progress not perfection. Sending love and light
You do you!!! There shouldn’t be judgement for anyone’s food choices.
Absolutely! No judgment.
Do not let perfection get in the way of the good.😊
I was on a raw food diet (wasn’t a diet but way of life) for many years until an accident crushed all my teeth and broke my jaw in multiple places which wasn’t realigned prior to jaw being wired shut for over 2 months. They can’t make functioning dentures for me due to my crooked jaw-I’ve had many sets made. What I’d give to be able to bite into raw radishes, celery, apples etc
I understand 100%. I'm a vegetarian and sometimes plant based person who is also a binge eater. I never lose and sometimes gain.
No judgement here. I’ve always watched because I like your recipes. I’m watching this as I’m making your Super Smoky Hummus dip to bring to a Super Bowl Party!
Life is a work in progress.
My father always said, "We are a finished work in progress."
WFPB didn't work for me d/t kidney stones and IBS, but I like hanging out with you guys and your YT community.
Psychologically, saying you want to 'lose weight' puts your brain in loss mode and keeps wanting to find it again . If instead you choose to 'release weight', your brain recognizes positive energy and works with you for the better. Just a thought, keep it positive and joyful, not so much about loss as joyful release leading to new adventures in health. Glad you're thriving. And screw the numbers, don't be a slave to them. Be well and keep healing, which is of course a lifeling journey.💜
The diet has worked for you! No one is perfect. You are helping so many people. Be easy on yourselves.
I've been vegan for 13 years and even though I ate pretty healthy, I always ate more food than necessary. A habit I developed very young and couldn't break. About a year ago I hired a coach and started keeping track of the calories I consumed using an app. That's all it took for me. I still keep track of what I consume for calories because I don't have to worry about my weight for the first time in my life. I've never been happier. I'm not saying keeping track of what you eat is for everyone, but it has given me a way to turn the eating off. The bottom line is, even if a person eats only healthy vegan food, but more calories than that person burns on average, it will cause excess weight.
I deeply appreciate your honesty. I eat a WFPB diet and always look forward to your videos.
You two are so sweet and human!! Lol
Great video as usual! ❤
Soooo glad you are posting again. Any recipe videos on the horizon? ❤
You guys are just the sweetest couple and I enjoy your content so much. I've been meaning to ask you the significance of the little patchwork Teddy Bear who always finds his way into your videos? Also, I was also wondering if you've ever had any concerns about nutrition with your way of eating? I'd love to learn more about how plant-based eating can meet our bodies' needs. Right now, hubby and I are VERY low carb because we both have diabetes and are trying to keep our sugars down as much as possible through what we eat. Do you think plant based would possibly give us too many carbs? I know they're good carbs, but we're SO limited that even good carbs can spike our sugar. Keep up the awesome work, and please give Elsie a hug from this granny subscriber
Love this bi agree, no one is perfect
I don't follow you all because I want to be plant based too, which I don't, I just enjoy learning about all the things in your lives, especially little Elsie. She is darling. I pray that you both stay healthy. God bless
Not strictly plant based here but I do find wonderful ideas of how to incorporate it into my diet from your channel.
Good Luck in your endeavor! Prayers for you and your family 🥰
Jessica, I loved your recent Instagram posts!!!
I appreciate you guys and your honesty. I have found it challenging to be 100 percent because of family members & friends or the going out to eat. We don't live in an area where there are many Good options to eat healthy plant based going out. I did plant base only for years & over the past years have transitioned to Mediterranean. I admire you both in trying to be a good role model for Elsie. Hopefully No one has gotten too nasty with you in their comments. Unfortunately we have be come a Opinionated society of people who think it's their God given right to keep you accountable. Like you said, we (as in NO ONE is perfect ) "To Eire is Human" ! Keep up the good work. I think learning to be modest in our eating habit's ( Not over eating Or Over snacking) is more of a problem then eating Whole foods. At least that is something I've noticed for myself. Wish you guys the Best !!! 🙏
It can happen. Not in a perfect, 100% way obviously, but I’ve maintained my commitment for three years now. Since I started. My imperfections? Coffee and Nutpods for cream. The rest is unshakable. My tremendously improved health has been the greatest motivator. You can do this.
Dr McDougall in his "Maximum Weight Loss Diet" book always said to eat more greens by following the 50/50 rule.
Perhaps you could try another potato reset. Start small maybe just the weekend and go from there extend it or not. You have the tools and knowledge to make it work . Getting started is the first step to the rest of your life
One of our sons is vegan, the other son is carnivore and us parents are omnivores. Our family dinners are now take-out à la carte. It works. Enjoy the diversity.
It really is lovely wall! And Else is the most precious adorable perfect baby. And what the heck are you talking about - you are a success story! For any one who doubts go back and watch their early videos when they began by eating potatoes for 2 weeks. *Even with all the hurdles big and small life has thrown at you
You both are delightful peeps! I am wondering how you get enough nutrition. There are 7 essential nutrients that plants do not provide. Also plant nutrients are not fully absorbed due to oxalates, lectins & others that bind.
I am a vegan (for ethical reasons) so will never deviate from that but I do struggle with being a “clean” WFPB eater who also does intermittent fasting. I’ve struggled with maintaining my weight & health doing IF lately so I can relate to the struggles you both are having staying on a plant based diet. I like these chats. Yes- we are flawed and just trying to do our best.
You are a *perfect* example of two humans who clearly love each other. I may be able to follow the diet easily, but I would *LOVE* to find a partner to share the journey with me. I love your family and your *REAL-NESS*. Thank You!! 💜💜💚💚💜💜
I found the best diet for me is the Mediterranean diet . I've tried carnivore, keto vore, keto ect I had issues with gag reflex from the meat and fat. Everyone is different and they have to find the best fit for their lives.
Teeny tiny Peef!
I kept waiting for the "Haircut 100" reference. "Where do we go from here.....Is it down the lake, I fear"
I just eat, whatever I want, whatever my body needs to function well.. Most of it is plant based because I grow and cook most of my food. I run from "perfect" diets because that definition keeps changing and most people telling you how to eat end up with health problems of their own.
Pobodys Nerfect! Love this video!
Wow! Has it really been 7 years?
Time flies. 😀
I'm happy to see peef.glad your not perfect and know it. I'm not either in lots of things. Keep on keeping on
❤ very nice. Here is something I learned early on in my transition to Whole Foods, vegan, low low fat ( especially oils and salt )....greens, particularly celery juice, spinach, spirulina etc have mineral salts which cut cravings. Your body has to build these special salts. Lemon n lime water are helpful. Took me 1.5 years min to convert without going back. I enjoy the food
Rather than having focus on weight loss, it is best to focus on health, as your why. You just havent found what works for you. What foods, lifestyle that you can be consistent with. Furthermore, health is not just about food, think of sunshine, sleep, hydration etc. 😊 I hope you find what you need and works for you. It’s Krocks in the kitchen, perhaps you can have organic grass fed meat and some olive oil…… ❤ It is your channel.
You do you! You don’t want to be the people that are like I do this and I do that like trying to make you feel bad lol
I have lived with systemic lupus for over 40 years now, along with RA. 8 of those years I took medications. Then I began developing allergies to not just the SLE meds, but to most of them. My allergy list begins with Benadryl now, and covers two pages. Nothing with even tylenol or motrin, most antibiotics (I've never had a Zpack), most antihistamines, etc. I've been told not to get a tetanus booster without a crash team handy. So. My diet. It absolutely is whole foods, but it is not plant based. I supplement minerals and some vitamins by topical application since my gut (like most auto-immune disease sufferers) just destroys anything taken orally. I cook from scratch, bake bread/make pasta using Einkorn flour that I pay a small fortune for. I can and dehydrate produce from our garden and a few things from local farms and orchards. I use lard for cooking ~ sometimes what I render myself, sometimes purchased from grass fed farms locally. I use raw honey. I may go through 10 pounds of raw cane sugar over a two year period (for the household, not just myself) even with canning and baking. And yes, I eat meat, dairy, eggs, etc. Some we raise and process ourselves. Some is purchased from local farms. I make NO apologies ~ and I have been deeply involved with the entire AR/AW debate for decades. My diet is local with the exception of coffee, cinnamon, nutmeg, and vanilla beans. I even grow my own Spanish and Hungarian peppers for paprika (and yes, I do outsource seeds although not so much now since I also save seed each year). The bottom line is that I've lived with and managed a lethal disease with diet, a 'clean' house (no upholstery, no carpets, natural cleaning products and toiletries), very little plastic (I use glass for food storage as much as possible), water filtration (including fluoride), etc.
Each of us has to choose how we live, so I don't judge others ... and I've gotten quite adept at countering any who judge me; including doctors. Believe me when I say I have VERY little use or respect for our medical business that left me stuck with turning into a miserable sod from a sinus headache/seasonal allergies with their overuse of drugs. I ditched them after my 9th anaphylaxis round that was followed by their adamant suggestion of chemo to 'try and keep me out of a wheelchair for another year'. I'm not in a wheelchair 32 years after that prognosis. I do have days where I am in enough pain to not 'want' to walk, but I can. I have rarely been sick since I stopped taking antibiotics ~ I can count the number of times on one hand. And, I'll tell anyone the same thing I tell the grim reaper that has been perched on my shoulder and snarking at me for 42 years ~ not ONE second before the good Lord calls me home.
Live your lives people. Be happy while you live because anything less is a waste of the life you've been given. Remember that not a single one of us is getting out of this alive, and wasting time on being angry, fighting with others, etc. is time you will never ever get back.
I wish you all the best, wherever you go from here! You are such a great family! Have a lot of fun on your way. WFPB is worth a try to lead a happy and healthy life. Maybe this time you won't restrict that much caloriewise? If you eat legumes, potatoes an veggies up to satiety, this should automatically make weightloss easier?
I don't live WFPB, just, because I like a small amount of fat with my veggies for the taste and I eat some dairy from time to time. Meat has become so unimportant, that I probably could call myself a vegetarian. But all these "labels" are no longer important to me. Being kind to myself, no longer blaming myself for not eating "perfect", no longer being ashamed for anything, no longer overthinking. Instead: enjoying wholesome food. Being kind to myself. Allowing me to eat until I'm satiated. Eating slowly, eating as often and as much as my body needs it. Caring for my emotional needs, so that I don't need food for that anymore. All this has finally brought me to the best journey or adventure of my life, after so many years of dieting and restricting.
There are many possibilities to come to a peaceful way of eating. It all starts within us. And you, as such a loving and caring couple have the very best chances to find this peaceful, healthy path as well.
Many greetings from a fan from Germany
I'm vegetarian and gluten free due to neuropathy and its pretty hard .
I think you are both wonderful people and am so glad to see you again frankly, I do not care about some total plant-based diet because it is not doable for me as I live in a place that does not offer any kind of food foods that are plant-based therefore I cannot keep up a total plant-based diets e😂 I live on the East Coast in the southern area not the West Coast weather. There are so many stores and restaurants that are plant based… plus I don’t drive and have to use Uber as it means a transportation, which is a money grabber in and of itself😂😂 please don’t think you have to make a bunch of excuses to people. They are just people like you and I are and everybody else is out here in the world called Earth.. read the positive things from people who are real people and realize you are not being judged, instead, you’re being cared about😊 again really I’m glad to see you guys again and think you are just top-notch. Rock on.❤
Not going to lie, I wouldn’t mind a good spreadsheet
I'm sure Jessica can put something together. 😆
My doctor explained there are many types of obesity - one size does not fit all! She told me for some it is behavioral and others it is mostly biological. She has prescribed Ozempic (which is less expensive if you buy from a Canadian pharmacy btw). Still are cognizant of what I am eating, but thankfully I have no "food noise." now. Just normal hunger and enjoying whole foods plant based eating. No shame, No blame
I love how open (not that way 😉😅) you two are! Sadly as you know you will get all kinds of comments when you put yourself out there. I think some people weren't taught that if you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all. Also sometimes we just read things with a certain tone in our head. I know I also deal with a lot of negative self talk and have a tendency to take things too personally. it's good to get varying points of view. That way we can reflect and honestly look at ourselves. In the end no one is perfect and we all have a bit of a hypocrite in us at times. I am not vegan but I have been on a journey over the last few years to incorporate more vegan/vegetarian/WFPB meals into my repertoire. They have become a normal part of my meal repertoire. I'm creating new habits. I love watching your content and have tried a few of your recipes. I'm not going anywhere. Thanks for all you do!
Wow! And now you are two crazy swingers?!!! Who knew? 😂😂😂😂
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I’m here for the recipes. Because they are great! Using real food! That’s tasty! Yes I eat some meat fish eggs dairy … but not a lot, because you don’t need much of anything. People today eat waaaaaaay more than is needed - victims of marketing and social pressure. I’m with that guy who said “ eat food; not much; MOSTLY plants”. And you guys use real food that tastes great AND is good for you. Who wouldn’t sign up for that!
Curious with the both of you going through cancer, have you considered vegan keto? I have been vegan the past 6 years and being in my mid 50's finding that carbs make me feel blah. Considering vegan keto. Any insights?
It would be difficult to get enough protein I think. So much of the plant based protein comes from pulses, which of course also contain carbs. What would you substitute?
@ just starting my research so not sure
If could be guaranteed to stay healthy and not gain weight, I'd be into a cheese and popcorn dripping in melted butter based diet!
WHy not just for Mediterranean diet that allows a little bit of satisfying meat? One of the biggest problems with diets is that people don't sustain them. There is great evidence that a whole foods based Mediterranean diet is great for health. It can allow you a small amount of satisfying animal products, but still keep you both healthy. Just an idea. It allows a small amount of meat. not a lot. its a small change. Doing a mediterranean all time is better thant being a whole food plant based "all time" that always cheats and never eats we..
We absolutely encourage people to do Mediterranean. WFPB is kind of just a more extreme version of Mediterranean. 😆
@@KrocksInTheKitchen I have no strong opinion about what path you all choose, i just want to see you find success and consistency, for your collective well-being/happiness. If you feel like you are failing, it is easy to lose motivation. Best to find a good way that is sustainable - whatever that is for you. I love 5:2, personally, with Mediterranean. I find doing the 600 calories harder than just fasting for the whole 24 hours. There's no right way, just what is right for you two. Good luck!
NO ONE is perfect!😄. Check out Lean with Plants with Chelsea. She is all about habits.... and flexibility. She is not perfect in her diet but has reached her plant based goarls.
It's a lifestyle not really a diet
absolutely fried
😅 Brian
Eat some junk food but if you are vegan for the animals you will always be vegan🌱
U can have 1 treat just not a whole pack lol
Watch Plantwhys she has 6 children
If you don't want to be vegan, that's okay.But it's more real if you say at times you eat vegan and time to eat meat, or yet you eat meat and once waker saw you eat plant based.
I am very much an all or nothing person Jessica. Life is black and white for me. Moderation is an immediate failure for me. I hope that makes sense.
And if it makes sense, just know it’s hard as hell. I hate it. It’s a demon constantly on my shoulder.
Do either of you have a sweet tooth? It’s a curse.
Jessica certainly does. Me, not so much. My only sweet weakness is pie. 😆
Why would you not eat one of the healthiest foods on the planet??? Grass fed ruminant red meat/organs gives you extreme nutrients, all the aminos acids that are a complete protein(unlike plant food) being vegan/vegetarian kills more animals than being a meat eater as well. It's just super hard to get all the aminos/nutrients your body needs to be super healthy from plants alone. Plants are full of anti-nutrients as well that your body has to deal with. Most people aren't healthy enough to convert the essential fat soluble vitamins etc. from plants so their body can use them ..........with animal proteins no need for the body to convert these valuable vitamins etc. they are readily available to the body with no conversion needed...........It's just so much harder to be healthy not eating animal based foods so why the hell would you do that to your body?
I grew up in a House, where we just ate a balanced Diet. I thank God for that. I can not understand why People make such a big fuss about Food. Just eat a little bit of everything, and put your Energy into going outdoors. And also, do never eat processed Food, lots of Fruits, vegetables, Meat, I have my own Chickens and Eggs are Sooo healthy! I only buy organic Olive Oil from California. In General, we buy organic whenever possible. And we avoid Canola Oil, it’s simply not healthy.
But I agree with you a 100 Percent, on what you say about avoiding Meat not being a good Choice.
It appears I found one of the people that likes to argue. 😆 I'm sure some of our viewers would love to respond to your comment. 🙂