I'm a lifetime natural but also combat veteran whose disabled. I got seriously wounded in an ambush and I have limited excercise, weight and range of motion in my leg and back. The RP training and your videos have helped me tweak my workouts so I can make gains despite my limitations. Yeah it's great to train hard heavy etc and most of your audience is probably looking for that but someone like me finds these videos so helpful on a whole different level. I greatly appreciate your content.
@@kimofrosty Probably shouldn't use what happened to this person to try to push some personal agenda...It's bad form and extremely tacky and disrespectful no matter how you look at it. Be better.
@@supersaiyanbino in general I hate people who goes to combat and get start viewing themselves as some sort victims, you decided to go to combat own up to it
My 40+ year old knees and elbows have thanked guys like Eric and Dr Mike multiple times. It’s been awesome trying new things as i’ve gotten older. I’m even working on some of kneesovertoes guy’s movements and my knees are starting to feel great after feeling pretty terrible the last ten years.
The truth is, pros have the genetics to "get away" with sloppy or sub-optimal training, and because it worked for them they assume it will work for anyone (as you said) understanding body mechanics and correct application of intensity is FAR more important for the average gym bro
@@ericjanickifitness Even you pronounce your own surname wrong. It's a very common surname in Poland. And it's pronounced completely different. Visit Poland sometime, you'll like it. Your family probably comes from there.
Eric you're on the right path bro. These guys are smart, but their marketing strategy is an attempt to prop themselves up by tearing another down, which never works. You're fighting the winning battle with the content and messages you share, and it is evidenced by your engagement and growth trajectory. These old heads in their ivory towers are shouting to nobody. Keep it up
They weren’t talking in a hater manner at all though, they misunderstood a post and were vouching for basic exercises being effective. This was never intended to cause internet drama but Eric’s fans reallllly want it to for some reason.
@@mattsmith3049 how so did he want it? If someone disagrees with what you do and contacts you in private about it then Eric could settle the misunderstanding. But they went on the internet with it. Mind you Eric is a personal trainer that is what he promotes. He was a family to feed. Going on the internet to say that he is spreading misinformation about how to train literally takes food out of his family's mouth. What he did was a well educated response. He did nothing wrong
@@mattsmith3049 I don't think anyone thinks there is actually drama. But you're misrepresenting what took place. It wasn't that they just "misunderstood" they were 1 of 2 things. 1. Incredibly lazy to make their assertion when his literal post counters their assertion. 2. Intentionally deceptive for clicks and views for their assertion when again the very post refutes said assertion. If you're going to make content like that make sure you do your due diligence. They clearly did not rather intentional or not.
Mine actually blew up and for the first time became a prominent body part when I dropped presses all together. Now I'm pressing again a bit but deep, controlled flys are where the money's at, at least for me
@@MarlonFitness-d1w I'd like to pile on with that. Flies have been absolutely incredible for me, and I started them after watching one of Eric's videos. They went from my "do these occasionally after a press" to the main event, and I'll do press and dips after to round out a workout.
Well, all I can say is I’ve been lifting for 30 years, and thought my growth was over, until I found you…… Finally got a little bit of growth, but most importantly, my flexibility is even better than it ever was in my teens and twenties. Plus, I have ZERO joint pain. Keep preaching, brother.
I have been lifting close to 9 years. Compound lifts did not grow my muscles as much as I wanted them to. I have been lifting like Eric and RP for the past year and everyone has been complimenting on how symmetrical and big my muscles have grown within that time. Not only that but whenever I lift I actually feel the muscle I am training and not a bunch of other muscles trying to get the weight up. Eric and RP have changed my life immensely!!!
I hypertrophy lift and have been on gear for a few years now and following your cable advice has given me insane growth. I have researched and followed A LOT of advice over the years but my pecs, tri's and lats seemed to be stubborn and refused to grow at the rate I was seeking. I have pictures from March, before I started following your advice, and then from July after I'd been following your advice and the growth is incredible. I went from being embarrassed about my pecs to getting the fullness I'd been seeking. I've recommended you to so many people now.
I"m almost 45 years old now and I've been training since I was 16. I'm 5'-5", 175 lbs and can bench 405 for 6-8 reps. This was due to the old school mentality that more was always better. No Pain No Gain! However, I wake up every morning now with some kind of pain. It takes me forever to recover now and my body can't do certain exercises anymore due to risk of injury, limited range of motion, and wear and tear on my body over the years of heavy lifting and improper form. I wish I had your training method and principles growing up. The training education that you provide is worth more than any FLEX Magazine I was reading back in the 90's and early 2000's. Keep up the amazing work!
You, and Ben Pakulski, are the only two guys preaching this type of training. I LOVE to train like you and Ben. 10/10! Never change Eric, much love man
I listened to most of this talk and it really felt like a "Back in my day" rant. Huge props to all of them for the insane accolades theyve achieved, but their method hasnt drawn more people to start lifting. Their methods havent taught people a way to lift with safety and longevity in mind. Thanks for doing what you do Eric, and for taking the high road on this one. 😂
I reached plateau for a long time and you changed completely my workout routine. I don’t know why I never came across your UA-cam channel. You are number 1
I’m a 62 years old retired police officer. been lifting since high school. When u get to my age, u absolutely cannot get away with sloppy heavy lifts. U will get hurt,100 percent. I started using some of ur techniques about 6 months ago. I’m not gonna lie, it took a shift in thinking to let go of over 40 plus years of the same basic lifting. But it has made a major positive affect. Better results and less injury. Definitely some egos getting hurt. Love ur analysis of ur critics. Keep the vids coming !!!
That’s awesome to hear. I always say that people watching my videos don’t have to train exactly like me. Just take a few things here and there that I teach and see if they work for you. Keep it up 🙏
I’m a 36 year old Police Officer and my body is already hurting from the military to this profession. I’ve definitely transitioned from a power lifting style to a lifting style Eric promotes. It’s been working great, with zero injury!
I’ve just turned 18 recently with about 2 years of lifting under my belt. I’ve only recently discovered Eric’s channel and his training style is probably the best i’ve ever tried period. Something about that deep stretch with time under tension really makes me sore and I have been seeing some great gains overall, I’ve been preaching this training style to my friends as well and they are also loving it. Thank you Eric for sharing new insights on training that may have not been popularized/highlighted by these old school bodybuilders.
here is the adult viewpoint. I dont like how eric trains personally, not my typa thing, but he is big, getting bigger, isnt injuring himself and is on the surface enjoying it, he isnt making it seems like the absolute best and giving personal reasons as why he is chosing his exercises. So eric can do what he wants.
Agree! I personally do the big compounds first and then ill take the muscle groups through a full range of motion to stretch them out as a way to prevent injury. Best of both worlds.
I’m not a follower of you Eric but all the things I have seen of you before this in passing I truly appreciate your alternate point of view/methods in addition to the major exercises. Bodybuilding can be very boring and it’s accepted as “This is how it is” but when you’re willing and open to exercises like the ones you preach it makes things more interesting. Also we’re all built a little differently so options for growth aren’t a bad thing. One last thing, the way you take criticism is admirable and I am glad you stood up for your ideaologies.
Does Seth understand that his genetics are better than 99% of people? That's why his 4 exercises are enough for him. I started seeing visible (better) results after I adopted the training of Mike Israetel and that was after years of training. I feel the muscle I train better, I feel safer and I get better results. That's my experience and I used to train hard with more weight, but it's just not ideal.
Seth doesn't have better genetics in training, what Seth has is a better understanding of his own body mechanics and training intensity. Thats what it takes to get to Seth's level. Half the people that comment on YT that say their don't get results also say they train "hard and intense". Doing everything right. If you go to any gym there's a hundred people that after years have no results. They're picking up heavy weights, but they're not going hard, they're not intense. Those are the same people commenting on videos. I've had kids come up to me asking to train with me and they absolutely HATE my training style. It's literally 3 exercises for each body part and only 1 working set. Then they immediately say it's steroids. I've never done. I know what works for me and been doing it for almost a decade
Same for me, i got more results in 6 months incorporating milke's advices than in 2 years of heavy duty, destroying myself in every set for almost zero gains
The “basics” cabal is ALWAYS the most injured as well. If you wanna build muscle, put your focus into HOW you do things. WHAT you do falls somewhere between irrelevant and inconsequential. The only consistent variables to your progress is that you have to train hard. You don’t need to worry about a press vs a fly or any other obsessive, dogmatic component.
I have cherry picked a couple of tips i have seen on your videos to try and minimize injuries now that i am in my 50s. I enjoy your style of training and videos
I’ve gotten a lot more growth since I started training like you slow consoled focusing more on form stretch time under tension and tempo keep doing you much respect still to Seth I love his HWMF mentality
@@benforde3579 all of these are alright indicators but reps and tempo etc. can only go so far. Weight must be a primary indicator of progressive overload as well. It is also often preferable to track your progress on lifts by performing them in a standardised way (tempo won't always work). I won't speak on the possibility of people wanting to train for strength, or your lifts being heavy enough that adding weight is easier than adding a rep.
Dude, it's crazy how anyone can critique your physique. Whatever/however you got it, it's obviously working. After 20 years of working out the "old school way" and getting injured every year, I started implementing some of your and Mike's form, and I feel amazing. Slow ecentric, deep stretch.
I like the originality of the video and all the advice and stuff you brought. A SMART MEATHEAD :> Keep the educational, information AND entertaining stuff coming! I love these training discussions
@@nomarvelasco900 you do realize that all of these guys had better progress at a younger age… Iain was a pro by like 24 I believe - benched 500lbs at 19, Fouad was a pro in his late 20s, Seth went pro in 7 months from his first show at 24 or 25. Giving your opinion on a training style isn’t being bitter lol. Plus, everything they said is accurate… it’s bad advice to tell people to skip the basics for “optimal” exercises. I understand his novel caption gave context to the video but expecting people to read that while on a podcast is asinine. Reality is these “science” lifters are trying to find every way to get out of working hard and that’s all they’re calling out
My philosophy in the gym: It's not about how much weight you can lift; it's about how you lift that weight. I'm enjoying that far more than just chasing numbers
💯 Ever since I got rid of that numbers mentality I have been growing and changing like crazy. It's like I've wasted the last 15 years listening to bad advice and letting my ego drive me
I have MASSIVE respect for everyone in this video, but as someone who hit a plateau in my back gains a bit ago, your workouts have been a HUGE factor in my recent muscle growth.
I tried your shoulder workout today and it's absolutely destroyed my shoulders to the point where they might file for assault. Absolutely loved it eric! Never had a shoulder pump like it 💯💯
"I’ve personally gained so much from incorporating your methods into my training program, especially for chest, which has always been my weak point. Now I feel sore after every workout and have never had a more defined chest than I do now. Additionally, the annoying pain in my wrists has disappeared since I no longer subject them to as many heavy presses. I feel like you’ve been totally misunderstood by the bros in the video, and you gave an awesome comeback!"
I feel like Seth wanted to defend Erik a few times but he came down with a sudden case of (FOBO) Fear Of Being Ostracized. For Seth to not acknowledge the safety benefits of what Erik preaches considering all of Seth’s injuries is kind of rich. Erik, I understand you felt the need to speak up and explain yourself but at the end of the day, this is a business and not a public service you are providing, last I checked none of you are working off of grants from a non profit. They commented on you because of one thing- the bottom line and not the bottom line that means the truth!
Well said Gamer. Erik definitely appeared a bit insecure, specifically in the opening portion. He has to be more confident in his own approach and modalities. Erik, be careful at sounding condescending because now you have a target on your back and they’re going to be going full MSM and fact checking everything you say and whisper. Don’t think of them as haters, see them for what they are , desperate steak knives salesman
It’s funny because I see that box of talking heads as the failed bodybuilders who are still failing at the business side of the game and are so jealous of guys like Erik who make sense AND money! Those guys are pitching the same old training and people are starting to get woke and listen to new science. Stay strong Gamer- you got it right.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing - like Seth was biting his tongue. I was waiting for his to chime in and say “hold on guys, take a deep breath “. He didn’t want that 3 v 1 smoke!
@@AnadrolLecter im just curious what you mean by failed bodybuilder or failed businesses? Valliere is a few years removed from being a top 10 Olympian, we all know about Seth’s amazing career , and fouad has won pro shows and has a very successful company in HOSSTILE. I’m not saying Erick is in the wrong I’m just talking about what you said? How did you come to that conclusion?
Eric, bro I met you at the gym a couple months ago and I just wanna say you’re a rad dude! Also my chest specifically, which has been a weak point of mine for years has grown since trying your style of lifting along with my own style. Thanks bro 🙏
Bro you're Leg Press techniques and hamstring stretches have saved my knees from all the harsh popping I developed from a childhood injury. Thank you for offering new and safe ways to work out FYI the Arnold Press also injured my right shoulder in my early days of training. It's all about mobility for your own body.
Eric I started my lifting career about 4 years ago. I've been through basically everyone on social media and have gravitated towards your style of training. Ive made better gains than most of the people in my town who have been training longer than me.
I’m a 51 year old guy who’s just started working out at home and bumped into yourself and dr Mike and all the two of you say makes total sense to me. Better equals more, not more equals more. Just more is a recipe for disaster and injury.
Your a legend I've been using a lot of your training techniques and my training has stepped up to a whole new level. Plus I've packed on well rounded muscle gains from full range of motion and controling the weight under tension. The weight I use for each exercise has dropped because I need that control. The weight on my lifts has dropped and my muscle mass has increased (how could that be possible 😂). Speaks for itself. Keep up the content bro you are a pioneer and a massive inspiration 👍
this was a great video, I'm happy you did it and I do watch every podcast of fouads, but glad you cleared up your caption because no-one noticed that part til you reshowed it here. you have a new sub with me here! we live in the stretched position pausing at the bottom of the load . team full ROM
I’ll be completely honest, I lost a pile of weight, 3yrs ago, I’ve been working out since, about 2 1/2 years and I’ve honestly grown more in past 6 1/2 months using these big stretch techniques. I feel way better and my mobility has increased. Can’t say same for younger than me people but it definitely helps this 48yr old. 🙏
Funny thing is Ian’s brother in law and Current Mr Olympia Chris Bumstead has adopted the emphasis on stretch and TUT in his Olympia prep for this year 😂 literally everything that you promote in your training
Seth Sets are when you take a weight to failure within the 6-10 rep range then immediately cut the weight in half a double the reps Ex: 60lbs x 8 reps … 30lbs x 16 reps
I started completely atrophied after cancer treatment so naturally my focus has always been recovery hypertrophy training. At one point I couldn't curl 5 pounds without being sore for days. Never lifted heavy in my life and became one of the biggest guys in my gym using simple science backed hypertrophy training concepts. I've watched many channels throughout the years and narrowed it down to 3 main channels, my coach Damien Patrick, Renaissance Periodization, and Eric Janicki. When I found Eric it was like hearing my own thoughts come out of another person. We train exactly the same, his novel exercises are outstanding after I already mastered the basics the past 10 years. If I had time for a UA-cam channel I have a few I think he'd like too.
Last 6 months I've switched to many of your recommended exercises, especially chest. My chest measurement went from 47 inches to 50 inches. My arms have grown an inch each. Thighs an inch each. My stomach and waist are both smaller. I'll keep following your recommendations and trying new things.
I love this method of working out, but maybe I'm not an egotistic meat head. I'm 54, and greatly appreciate the understanding time under tension, stretch, ect. If you watch Derek Lunford, he preaches this all the time.
My comment isn't related to this post. I just wanted to say that I appreciate your videos. I have high set lats and they are extremely hard to widen. Your lifting tips have helped extraordinarily. Thank you
I could never grow my triceps till i followed your tips and excercises and forms. Dont think slow eccentrics does anything but ur excercises work really well
Hi Eric! Big fan here and I am fully in support of long muscle length training but unfortunately I have to call you out on the physics part. The maximum lever length is actually when your humerus is parallel to the ground at the elbow is at its maximum horizontally projected distance from the shoulder. That isn't the reason why the exercise gets harder as you stretch, it is about passive insufficiency due to decreased cross bridge formation as there is less actin and myosene that can connect when the muscle is stretched a lot.
Neah!!!! Irrespective of what they say I have incorporated some of your tips and principles to improve my form and technique. I can feel and see the difference weekly. Keep up the fantastic content 💪
This is great information. The way Eric uses the word “explosively” is probably slightly inaccurate, however. Of course concentrics should be performed explosively and athletically. Hopefully we can all agree on that. But the tempo, the controlled eccentrics, the stretches, and the pauses are also important. I think the word Eric means is that we shouldn’t train “ballistically.” Which would imply that the entirety of the exercise is done quickly and explosively and not just the concentric
Cable chest exercises you teach has made me stronger when I do dumbbells chest exercises, thanks P.S. don’t know any of these guys that’s critiquing you
Tren Twins tore the pec cuz of heavy low rep weight on barbell bench, happens so often, especially since the reason behind half the tear is steroids drying it out, they also wear arm wraps to bump the weight up even more and put it all on the chest, they still train like they’re in football not like a body building contest
If they hate on this style, then they better also hate on Ben Pakulski because that's the origin of what Janicki is doing. Been doing this style for over 10 years already.
People trash Smith machines n tempo/RoM, Strict form. 2 of the best body builders use techniques like this. CBum n Phil Heath. Others as well. These r most notable n successful🍻
I don’t think anyone ever actually trashes full rom, tempo, and smith machines. At least the guys in the video certainly didn’t say anything in that regard. But anyone with a brain would never trash those anyway, being how instrumental they are
It's so weird that people see your success and you're absolutely ripped physique and then say stuff like you just don't know what you're doing. Honestly it's just jealousy at this point. Thanks for all the great content and lessons on body building I truly appreciate it!
First time I saw this guy training (via Mike, of course), I said “this is the future of bodybuilding.” He’s applying the “long range” principles that people like Ben Patrick knew about before the current hypertrophy research caught on. For most of these guys “the basics,” as they call the moves, are trash. Half-range squats, conventional deadlifts, half-range bench press. Ok, not “trash”, because “no movement is bad,” but each move needs serious reconsideration before calling them basics. There’s a reason Janicki’s mobility is better than any of the guys commenting on him.
I'm no body builder, but i am an athlete. And i simply dont understand why some of the most advanced guys in all sports dont want to pay attention to science backed training methodology. Eric is preaching to the choir and one of my personal favorite bodybuilders period. 💯
They love to sook about others, thats their podcast. Sooking harder than last time. Great response and valid points you made. Nippard is the worst example of training using science, because he doesn't train hard and doesn't even understand the "science" as he gets caught up in the minutia of the study, which often is poorly done or with noobie participants. Eugene Teo just did a great video on the science of studies and showed the videos of the participants in the study mentioned by Nippard/Wolf etc recently showed what a poor study it was. You teach great methods and I use your style often in training, ensuring Time under tension for longer, consistant and train to very close to failure/failure/beyond failure with partials and have great results. Thank you for being a great mentor.
I’ve lost over 100 lbs of straight fat thanks to RP and my body composition is way better than I could have ever imagined. If I would have been following the advice that any of these guys give I would have gotten injured and given up a long time ago.
respect has increased tremendously for you from the way you have handled this...and lost some for Fouad :( I did his program on Kaged when he was with them, I did not like the results I got. HOWEVER, I have gotten great results from RP. Just stating facts, I have no dog in this fight. My opinions have changed lots on these dudes from this........
Well you know they aren't keeping up with the recent study that Nippard and others performed where lengthened partials were just as valuable as a full rom lift, proving that the stretch is valuable.
I'm a lifetime natural but also combat veteran whose disabled. I got seriously wounded in an ambush and I have limited excercise, weight and range of motion in my leg and back. The RP training and your videos have helped me tweak my workouts so I can make gains despite my limitations. Yeah it's great to train hard heavy etc and most of your audience is probably looking for that but someone like me finds these videos so helpful on a whole different level. I greatly appreciate your content.
Love this and thank you for your service
how does it feel to be forever disabled not because you served your country, but because of some politician personal vendetta
@@kimofrosty Probably shouldn't use what happened to this person to try to push some personal agenda...It's bad form and extremely tacky and disrespectful no matter how you look at it. Be better.
@@supersaiyanbino in general I hate people who goes to combat and get start viewing themselves as some sort victims, you decided to go to combat own up to it
@@supersaiyanbino Whilst you're being judgemental. Be better.
My 40+ year old knees and elbows have thanked guys like Eric and Dr Mike multiple times. It’s been awesome trying new things as i’ve gotten older. I’m even working on some of kneesovertoes guy’s movements and my knees are starting to feel great after feeling pretty terrible the last ten years.
You, Jeff, and Dr Mike completely changed my workout structure and Form and I’m seeing the best results I have working out ever!
The truth is, pros have the genetics to "get away" with sloppy or sub-optimal training, and because it worked for them they assume it will work for anyone (as you said) understanding body mechanics and correct application of intensity is FAR more important for the average gym bro
Agreed
Sorry, no its not
Apology accepted now go to ur room and dont come back to this comment section@@sundvallen
And drugs, dont forget
@Demonosama911 🤣🤣🤣 I couldn't be bothered engaging
With that name pronunciation you think the guy in the video would’ve been me and not Fouad
Can confirm this is how he trains.
Friendship confirmed 🤝
What does Mike think about this lol
😂 yeah it only took you about 12 months to learn my name
@@ericjanickifitness Even you pronounce your own surname wrong. It's a very common surname in Poland. And it's pronounced completely different. Visit Poland sometime, you'll like it. Your family probably comes from there.
His names fudhi habibi
Eric you're on the right path bro. These guys are smart, but their marketing strategy is an attempt to prop themselves up by tearing another down, which never works. You're fighting the winning battle with the content and messages you share, and it is evidenced by your engagement and growth trajectory. These old heads in their ivory towers are shouting to nobody. Keep it up
Thank you man! Can’t wait to grab a workout together
@BrianDeCosta This might be the first time I ever seen somebody call fouad abiad smart.
@@ericjanickifitness cant wait for our workout bud me u and fudhi abadi gonna go ham on foreams left calf and right quad biased workout
@@ericjanickifitness Dude, I want to see a video of you and Brian DeCosta hitting a workout. That'd be sick.
Oh look, the fake natty king is weighing in.
You know you're doing something right when they start talking about you in a "hater" manner
or you're just a clout chasing clown like Greg Douchette. Luckily we don't have that issue with EJ.
They weren’t talking in a hater manner at all though, they misunderstood a post and were vouching for basic exercises being effective.
This was never intended to cause internet drama but Eric’s fans reallllly want it to for some reason.
@@mattsmith3049 how so did he want it? If someone disagrees with what you do and contacts you in private about it then Eric could settle the misunderstanding. But they went on the internet with it. Mind you Eric is a personal trainer that is what he promotes. He was a family to feed. Going on the internet to say that he is spreading misinformation about how to train literally takes food out of his family's mouth. What he did was a well educated response. He did nothing wrong
@@mattsmith3049 I don't think anyone thinks there is actually drama. But you're misrepresenting what took place. It wasn't that they just "misunderstood" they were 1 of 2 things.
1. Incredibly lazy to make their assertion when his literal post counters their assertion.
2. Intentionally deceptive for clicks and views for their assertion when again the very post refutes said assertion.
If you're going to make content like that make sure you do your due diligence. They clearly did not rather intentional or not.
He’s doing zero right
For what is worth, my chest has completely changed and grown ever since I implemented some of your techniques.
Mine actually blew up and for the first time became a prominent body part when I dropped presses all together. Now I'm pressing again a bit but deep, controlled flys are where the money's at, at least for me
This. My arms have always been weak. I started implementing some of his movements, and they've really improved.
@@MarlonFitness-d1w I'd like to pile on with that. Flies have been absolutely incredible for me, and I started them after watching one of Eric's videos. They went from my "do these occasionally after a press" to the main event, and I'll do press and dips after to round out a workout.
Well, all I can say is I’ve been lifting for 30 years, and thought my growth was over, until I found you……
Finally got a little bit of growth, but most importantly, my flexibility is even better than it ever was in my teens and twenties. Plus, I have ZERO joint pain. Keep preaching, brother.
Lfg!!!!
The problem as well with the "old school" guys is they take it as if you are challenging the way they did it or do it.
lol and you feel challenged when the old school guys say somehting about how youre doing it ^^ goes the same ^...
Exactly and IAM AND DO challenge them all the time because they're WRONG about many things.
I have been lifting close to 9 years. Compound lifts did not grow my muscles as much as I wanted them to. I have been lifting like Eric and RP for the past year and everyone has been complimenting on how symmetrical and big my muscles have grown within that time. Not only that but whenever I lift I actually feel the muscle I am training and not a bunch of other muscles trying to get the weight up. Eric and RP have changed my life immensely!!!
I hypertrophy lift and have been on gear for a few years now and following your cable advice has given me insane growth. I have researched and followed A LOT of advice over the years but my pecs, tri's and lats seemed to be stubborn and refused to grow at the rate I was seeking.
I have pictures from March, before I started following your advice, and then from July after I'd been following your advice and the growth is incredible. I went from being embarrassed about my pecs to getting the fullness I'd been seeking. I've recommended you to so many people now.
I"m almost 45 years old now and I've been training since I was 16. I'm 5'-5", 175 lbs and can bench 405 for 6-8 reps. This was due to the old school mentality that more was always better. No Pain No Gain! However, I wake up every morning now with some kind of pain. It takes me forever to recover now and my body can't do certain exercises anymore due to risk of injury, limited range of motion, and wear and tear on my body over the years of heavy lifting and improper form. I wish I had your training method and principles growing up. The training education that you provide is worth more than any FLEX Magazine I was reading back in the 90's and early 2000's. Keep up the amazing work!
u on trt?
You, and Ben Pakulski, are the only two guys preaching this type of training. I LOVE to train like you and Ben. 10/10! Never change Eric, much love man
So true
Definitely not the only two, but I get what you're saying.
I listened to most of this talk and it really felt like a "Back in my day" rant. Huge props to all of them for the insane accolades theyve achieved, but their method hasnt drawn more people to start lifting. Their methods havent taught people a way to lift with safety and longevity in mind. Thanks for doing what you do Eric, and for taking the high road on this one. 😂
I reached plateau for a long time and you changed completely my workout routine. I don’t know why I never came across your UA-cam channel. You are number 1
I’m a 62 years old retired police officer. been lifting since high school. When u get to my age, u absolutely cannot get away with sloppy heavy lifts. U will get hurt,100 percent. I started using some of ur techniques about 6 months ago. I’m not gonna lie, it took a shift in thinking to let go of over 40 plus years of the same basic lifting. But it has made a major positive affect. Better results and less injury. Definitely some egos getting hurt. Love ur analysis of ur critics. Keep the vids coming !!!
Amen
You’re sixty-two brother first off😅
That’s awesome to hear. I always say that people watching my videos don’t have to train exactly like me. Just take a few things here and there that I teach and see if they work for you. Keep it up 🙏
I’m a 36 year old Police Officer and my body is already hurting from the military to this profession. I’ve definitely transitioned from a power lifting style to a lifting style Eric promotes. It’s been working great, with zero injury!
I’ve just turned 18 recently with about 2 years of lifting under my belt. I’ve only recently discovered Eric’s channel and his training style is probably the best i’ve ever tried period. Something about that deep stretch with time under tension really makes me sore and I have been seeing some great gains overall, I’ve been preaching this training style to my friends as well and they are also loving it. Thank you Eric for sharing new insights on training that may have not been popularized/highlighted by these old school bodybuilders.
Keep it up man! It will serve you well for many decades to come.
here is the adult viewpoint.
I dont like how eric trains personally, not my typa thing, but he is big, getting bigger, isnt injuring himself and is on the surface enjoying it, he isnt making it seems like the absolute best and giving personal reasons as why he is chosing his exercises. So eric can do what he wants.
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Agree! I personally do the big compounds first and then ill take the muscle groups through a full range of motion to stretch them out as a way to prevent injury. Best of both worlds.
Exactly. Petty adults and that’s it 😂
The only correct opinion
I’m not a follower of you Eric but all the things I have seen of you before this in passing I truly appreciate your alternate point of view/methods in addition to the major exercises. Bodybuilding can be very boring and it’s accepted as “This is how it is” but when you’re willing and open to exercises like the ones you preach it makes things more interesting. Also we’re all built a little differently so options for growth aren’t a bad thing. One last thing, the way you take criticism is admirable and I am glad you stood up for your ideaologies.
Eric, you're legit the best. Better training than Dr. Mike and Joe Bennett by a smidge. You removed the intro about family too, man I love this now.
Does Seth understand that his genetics are better than 99% of people? That's why his 4 exercises are enough for him. I started seeing visible (better) results after I adopted the training of Mike Israetel and that was after years of training. I feel the muscle I train better, I feel safer and I get better results. That's my experience and I used to train hard with more weight, but it's just not ideal.
Seth doesn't have better genetics in training, what Seth has is a better understanding of his own body mechanics and training intensity. Thats what it takes to get to Seth's level. Half the people that comment on YT that say their don't get results also say they train "hard and intense". Doing everything right. If you go to any gym there's a hundred people that after years have no results. They're picking up heavy weights, but they're not going hard, they're not intense. Those are the same people commenting on videos. I've had kids come up to me asking to train with me and they absolutely HATE my training style. It's literally 3 exercises for each body part and only 1 working set. Then they immediately say it's steroids. I've never done. I know what works for me and been doing it for almost a decade
Same for me, i got more results in 6 months incorporating milke's advices than in 2 years of heavy duty, destroying myself in every set for almost zero gains
Seth trains same way as this guy does though, lol. Look at his shoulder workouts.
This was just fake beef
No he literally said said 98% in the video. Doesn’t realize he’s at 99.999%
Doesnt that apply to Eric aswell?
Not like everyone would look like him If they did their entire chest day on the cable station like he does
I love your style of working out, and I do myself!!
The “basics” cabal is ALWAYS the most injured as well. If you wanna build muscle, put your focus into HOW you do things. WHAT you do falls somewhere between irrelevant and inconsequential. The only consistent variables to your progress is that you have to train hard. You don’t need to worry about a press vs a fly or any other obsessive, dogmatic component.
I have cherry picked a couple of tips i have seen on your videos to try and minimize injuries now that i am in my 50s. I enjoy your style of training and videos
You could survive a workout of their style but they could not survive a workout of your style
I’m very confident I could survive one of their workouts. I was a football player for 10 years and trained just like that. I just grew up.
Better an RP glazer than a Mike van Wyck glazer like Fouad
Who glazes Mike van Wyck? 😂
Maturing in the gym isn't counting the weight (that's ego lifting) it's making the weight count. I wanna lift till I'm 60.
That's what most of them preach too
I’ve gotten a lot more growth since I started training like you slow consoled focusing more on form stretch time under tension and tempo keep doing you much respect still to Seth I love his HWMF mentality
If you don't count the weight, how do you know if you are progressing? It's the most reliable way to track.
@@Rorschachs_Bloat more reps more time under tension better control growth you can see in the mirror weight on the scale
@@benforde3579 all of these are alright indicators but reps and tempo etc. can only go so far. Weight must be a primary indicator of progressive overload as well.
It is also often preferable to track your progress on lifts by performing them in a standardised way (tempo won't always work).
I won't speak on the possibility of people wanting to train for strength, or your lifts being heavy enough that adding weight is easier than adding a rep.
Dude, it's crazy how anyone can critique your physique. Whatever/however you got it, it's obviously working. After 20 years of working out the "old school way" and getting injured every year, I started implementing some of your and Mike's form, and I feel amazing. Slow ecentric, deep stretch.
Eric is a legitimate true BB educator. Respect and don’t let those jealous people get to you
So satisfying to watch you train. It's like gym ASMR
Yes so true haha
I like the originality of the video and all the advice and stuff you brought. A SMART MEATHEAD :> Keep the educational, information AND entertaining stuff coming! I love these training discussions
JESUSSSS, these old farts are so bitter when someone has decent progress so young or when someone has a different approach and they are SUCH haters
Lol sorry, no
Be respectful now...
Old farts? Pretty sure Ian is younger or same age as eric, get ya facts straight bro
Real. They just bein typical BB Karens hahaha
@@nomarvelasco900 you do realize that all of these guys had better progress at a younger age… Iain was a pro by like 24 I believe - benched 500lbs at 19, Fouad was a pro in his late 20s, Seth went pro in 7 months from his first show at 24 or 25. Giving your opinion on a training style isn’t being bitter lol. Plus, everything they said is accurate… it’s bad advice to tell people to skip the basics for “optimal” exercises. I understand his novel caption gave context to the video but expecting people to read that while on a podcast is asinine. Reality is these “science” lifters are trying to find every way to get out of working hard and that’s all they’re calling out
I think you handled this so well. Eric, your training style has helped me grow so much. I love your videos. Keep doing what you're doing.
My philosophy in the gym: It's not about how much weight you can lift; it's about how you lift that weight. I'm enjoying that far more than just chasing numbers
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Ever since I got rid of that numbers mentality I have been growing and changing like crazy. It's like I've wasted the last 15 years listening to bad advice and letting my ego drive me
My philosophy in the gym is the exact opposite
I have MASSIVE respect for everyone in this video, but as someone who hit a plateau in my back gains a bit ago, your workouts have been a HUGE factor in my recent muscle growth.
I tried your shoulder workout today and it's absolutely destroyed my shoulders to the point where they might file for assault. Absolutely loved it eric! Never had a shoulder pump like it 💯💯
"I’ve personally gained so much from incorporating your methods into my training program, especially for chest, which has always been my weak point. Now I feel sore after every workout and have never had a more defined chest than I do now. Additionally, the annoying pain in my wrists has disappeared since I no longer subject them to as many heavy presses. I feel like you’ve been totally misunderstood by the bros in the video, and you gave an awesome comeback!"
I feel like Seth wanted to defend Erik a few times but he came down with a sudden case of (FOBO) Fear Of Being Ostracized. For Seth to not acknowledge the safety benefits of what Erik preaches considering all of Seth’s injuries is kind of rich.
Erik, I understand you felt the need to speak up and explain yourself but at the end of the day, this is a business and not a public service you are providing, last I checked none of you are working off of grants from a non profit. They commented on you because of one thing- the bottom line and not the bottom line that means the truth!
Well said Gamer. Erik definitely appeared a bit insecure, specifically in the opening portion. He has to be more confident in his own approach and modalities. Erik, be careful at sounding condescending because now you have a target on your back and they’re going to be going full MSM and fact checking everything you say and whisper. Don’t think of them as haters, see them for what they are , desperate steak knives salesman
FOBO- I’m dying. So true.
It’s funny because I see that box of talking heads as the failed bodybuilders who are still failing at the business side of the game and are so jealous of guys like Erik who make sense AND money! Those guys are pitching the same old training and people are starting to get woke and listen to new science. Stay strong Gamer- you got it right.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing - like Seth was biting his tongue. I was waiting for his to chime in and say “hold on guys, take a deep breath “. He didn’t want that 3 v 1 smoke!
@@AnadrolLecter im just curious what you mean by failed bodybuilder or failed businesses? Valliere is a few years removed from being a top 10 Olympian, we all know about Seth’s amazing career , and fouad has won pro shows and has a very successful company in HOSSTILE. I’m not saying Erick is in the wrong I’m just talking about what you said? How did you come to that conclusion?
Eric, bro I met you at the gym a couple months ago and I just wanna say you’re a rad dude! Also my chest specifically, which has been a weak point of mine for years has grown since trying your style of lifting along with my own style. Thanks bro 🙏
Bro you're Leg Press techniques and hamstring stretches have saved my knees from all the harsh popping I developed from a childhood injury.
Thank you for offering new and safe ways to work out
FYI the Arnold Press also injured my right shoulder in my early days of training. It's all about mobility for your own body.
Everyone: “Eric’s training doesn’t work”
Me: “idk man look at his arms… they’re bigger than my head.”
Arm:Head ration.. i have been thinking that this whole video lol
Eric bro, I love your style and I think you’re definitely onto something! Keep your head up!
Just watched the podcast loved it Erick added you as ur way of training I feel can help me. Much respect from the UK 🇬🇧
Let them hate bro...your training helped me out big time especially on legs..and I've watched multiple workout videos
Watched your videos for the first time today and I must say I liked it
Eric I started my lifting career about 4 years ago. I've been through basically everyone on social media and have gravitated towards your style of training. Ive made better gains than most of the people in my town who have been training longer than me.
That’s amazing. Glad to have had a positive impact
51 yo male lifter that has learned so much from watching your videos...best gains of my life! Especially your chest philosophy!
Let’s goooo! That’s amazing. Hopefully I can continue to grow and share this with more people
I love both of guys it’s like watching my parents argue 😂😂😂
I love your approach, it’s helping me immensely, and so humble in the best way possible! 🙏🏻🧘🏻♂️🔥
I’m a 51 year old guy who’s just started working out at home and bumped into yourself and dr Mike and all the two of you say makes total sense to me. Better equals more, not more equals more. Just more is a recipe for disaster and injury.
Just go on the podcast and chat it through.
It’s mutually beneficial for expanding audiences and productive at the same time
Nah, fist fight instead
Def .. go the Seth’s gym .. they would get along
They are fake beefing for views already.
If he did they would back off 90% and be way more reasonable, I guarantee it
Your a legend I've been using a lot of your training techniques and my training has stepped up to a whole new level. Plus I've packed on well rounded muscle gains from full range of motion and controling the weight under tension. The weight I use for each exercise has dropped because I need that control. The weight on my lifts has dropped and my muscle mass has increased (how could that be possible 😂). Speaks for itself. Keep up the content bro you are a pioneer and a massive inspiration 👍
Started taking advantage of the stretch, lessening the load, focusing on tut. Seen the best growth of my 6 years lifting.
this was a great video, I'm happy you did it and I do watch every podcast of fouads, but glad you cleared up your caption because no-one noticed that part til you reshowed it here. you have a new sub with me here! we live in the stretched position pausing at the bottom of the load . team full ROM
I love the ways you tought me about training. I got huge back gains because of your exercises
I’ll be completely honest, I lost a pile of weight, 3yrs ago, I’ve been working out since, about 2 1/2 years and I’ve honestly grown more in past 6 1/2 months using these big stretch techniques. I feel way better and my mobility has increased. Can’t say same for younger than me people but it definitely helps this 48yr old. 🙏
Funny thing is Ian’s brother in law and Current Mr Olympia Chris Bumstead has adopted the emphasis on stretch and TUT in his Olympia prep for this year 😂 literally everything that you promote in your training
I enjoyed the approach you took with this upload. Great video. 💪
Great video Eric every thing you said in your video is 100% correct keep up the great work and great content 👍💪🏼👍
Seth Sets are when you take a weight to failure within the 6-10 rep range then immediately cut the weight in half a double the reps
Ex: 60lbs x 8 reps … 30lbs x 16 reps
I started completely atrophied after cancer treatment so naturally my focus has always been recovery hypertrophy training. At one point I couldn't curl 5 pounds without being sore for days. Never lifted heavy in my life and became one of the biggest guys in my gym using simple science backed hypertrophy training concepts. I've watched many channels throughout the years and narrowed it down to 3 main channels, my coach Damien Patrick, Renaissance Periodization, and Eric Janicki. When I found Eric it was like hearing my own thoughts come out of another person. We train exactly the same, his novel exercises are outstanding after I already mastered the basics the past 10 years. If I had time for a UA-cam channel I have a few I think he'd like too.
Last 6 months I've switched to many of your recommended exercises, especially chest. My chest measurement went from 47 inches to 50 inches. My arms have grown an inch each. Thighs an inch each. My stomach and waist are both smaller. I'll keep following your recommendations and trying new things.
That’s phenomenal. Makes my day. Thank you for watching/learning
Keep revolutionizing our methods of training
I love this method of working out, but maybe I'm not an egotistic meat head. I'm 54, and greatly appreciate the understanding time under tension, stretch, ect. If you watch Derek Lunford, he preaches this all the time.
i found you thru larry wheels videos and agree with pretty much everything you say, keep up the great work
I learnt some moves from your videos and I absolutely love them, don't worry too much about being badmouthed by some random people
My comment isn't related to this post. I just wanted to say that I appreciate your videos. I have high set lats and they are extremely hard to widen. Your lifting tips have helped extraordinarily. Thank you
I could never grow my triceps till i followed your tips and excercises and forms. Dont think slow eccentrics does anything but ur excercises work really well
Its not about physics its about Ego
Tellement sympathique sûrement gentil et humain ...un grand bonjour d’Algérie...
Hi Eric!
Big fan here and I am fully in support of long muscle length training but unfortunately I have to call you out on the physics part.
The maximum lever length is actually when your humerus is parallel to the ground at the elbow is at its maximum horizontally projected distance from the shoulder.
That isn't the reason why the exercise gets harder as you stretch, it is about passive insufficiency due to decreased cross bridge formation as there is less actin and myosene that can connect when the muscle is stretched a lot.
Neah!!!! Irrespective of what they say I have incorporated some of your tips and principles to improve my form and technique. I can feel and see the difference weekly. Keep up the fantastic content 💪
This is great information. The way Eric uses the word “explosively” is probably slightly inaccurate, however. Of course concentrics should be performed explosively and athletically. Hopefully we can all agree on that. But the tempo, the controlled eccentrics, the stretches, and the pauses are also important. I think the word Eric means is that we shouldn’t train “ballistically.” Which would imply that the entirety of the exercise is done quickly and explosively and not just the concentric
Cable chest exercises you teach has made me stronger when I do dumbbells chest exercises, thanks P.S. don’t know any of these guys that’s critiquing you
I think a "Seth Set" is like an endless drop set until you can't move. Like running the rack doing side dumbell raises until you can't move your arms.
I can attest to his training and social media posts about exercises. They are the same. 💪🏼
Tren Twins tore the pec cuz of heavy low rep weight on barbell bench, happens so often, especially since the reason behind half the tear is steroids drying it out, they also wear arm wraps to bump the weight up even more and put it all on the chest, they still train like they’re in football not like a body building contest
Dude you’re an idio t
If they hate on this style, then they better also hate on Ben Pakulski because that's the origin of what Janicki is doing. Been doing this style for over 10 years already.
My man came FIRING back. 😮💨🏆
People trash Smith machines n tempo/RoM, Strict form. 2 of the best body builders use techniques like this. CBum n Phil Heath. Others as well. These r most notable n successful🍻
I don’t think anyone ever actually trashes full rom, tempo, and smith machines. At least the guys in the video certainly didn’t say anything in that regard. But anyone with a brain would never trash those anyway, being how instrumental they are
It's so weird that people see your success and you're absolutely ripped physique and then say stuff like you just don't know what you're doing. Honestly it's just jealousy at this point. Thanks for all the great content and lessons on body building I truly appreciate it!
First time I saw this guy training (via Mike, of course), I said “this is the future of bodybuilding.”
He’s applying the “long range” principles that people like Ben Patrick knew about before the current hypertrophy research caught on.
For most of these guys “the basics,” as they call the moves, are trash. Half-range squats, conventional deadlifts, half-range bench press. Ok, not “trash”, because “no movement is bad,” but each move needs serious reconsideration before calling them basics.
There’s a reason Janicki’s mobility is better than any of the guys commenting on him.
I'm no body builder, but i am an athlete. And i simply dont understand why some of the most advanced guys in all sports dont want to pay attention to science backed training methodology. Eric is preaching to the choir and one of my personal favorite bodybuilders period. 💯
They love to sook about others, thats their podcast. Sooking harder than last time. Great response and valid points you made. Nippard is the worst example of training using science, because he doesn't train hard and doesn't even understand the "science" as he gets caught up in the minutia of the study, which often is poorly done or with noobie participants. Eugene Teo just did a great video on the science of studies and showed the videos of the participants in the study mentioned by Nippard/Wolf etc recently showed what a poor study it was. You teach great methods and I use your style often in training, ensuring Time under tension for longer, consistant and train to very close to failure/failure/beyond failure with partials and have great results. Thank you for being a great mentor.
Dude, your physique is sick man. These guys can say whatever they want, but the proof is very obvious every time I look at you.
I’ve lost over 100 lbs of straight fat thanks to RP and my body composition is way better than I could have ever imagined. If I would have been following the advice that any of these guys give I would have gotten injured and given up a long time ago.
Results Are RESULTS!!! Keep it up brother!!
Great response
Great vids. Keep it up!
Eric bro you should compete more your physique is just..🔥
Legend Yonnicki🙌
respect has increased tremendously for you from the way you have handled this...and lost some for Fouad :( I did his program on Kaged when he was with them, I did not like the results I got. HOWEVER, I have gotten great results from RP. Just stating facts, I have no dog in this fight. My opinions have changed lots on these dudes from this........
Eric. I work out at 5am and I need to know what I should drink or take before my workout. Your videos are very helpful
It is wild how openly and unapologetic Ian is when he critiques someone; while simultaneously having a history of not reacting to criticism well.
they're strawmanning so hard, Mike ALWAYS qualifies that being consistent and training hard is the MOST important thing
Well you know they aren't keeping up with the recent study that Nippard and others performed where lengthened partials were just as valuable as a full rom lift, proving that the stretch is valuable.
Love your stuff bro
Eric you are such a kind dude, I appreciate your take and evolution on your modalities of training 🫡🫡🫡
Keep doing you bro!!