I tried out Palafin on the OU ladder and played against it a fair bit-- honestly it doesn't seem that good, much less broken. I'm absolutely certain that Choice Band sets won't be a major issue. I'm still somewhat concerned about innovation with Bulk Up sets, but they probably won't be consistent enough to be a major metagame threat. I think you were right. This pokemon is fine.
weezings ability is strange, it's rather picky on which abilitys it works on but a rule of thumb is that it doesn't affect form changing ability's such as hunger switch, disguise, stance change, tera shift and of course zero to hero
I’ve seen the meta game already shifting to handle palafin with way more ogerpon and bolt, it doesn’t feel as broken as it did the day it got unbanned but I’m not sure yet it can clean up games better than gambit and on rain especially it can brute force through a lot of natural checks
@@infamousinferno2506 i 100% think top tier players who think Palafin is fine rn will come to regret it soon enough. This thing is a stat stick that people are specifically planning for rn. it's got so much underexplored versatility I feel like it'll become too much to manage too soon. Very reasonably this thing can be band, bulkup + taunt, just bulkup, even scarf, even mixed, even AV! Once it's reintroduced into the tier and these niche sets all start popping up its gonna get the gouging treatment imo
@@SuperArjun11 Yeah. It's a shame that set variation is seen as a thing that pushes a mon over the edge now tho. We saw it with Volc too. Set variation used to be just a positive. Now it's something that's villainised.
A lot of people seem to be citing that palafin is only being considered at a very surface level and that problems will start to arise once everyone starts looking past cb and standard bulk up but i really dont think the thing has the movepool deep or strong enough to have whatever variance it could run be too overwhelming on a broad scale. Bulk up sets obviously can toy around with teras and stuff like encore but beyond stuff like maybe mixed sets with boomburst, i think palafin for the most part is a known entity. Curious to hear your thoughts on the idea.
i don't see a universe where this thing is broken with waterpon and bolt in the tier. ntm zama and dozo. i know a lot of people on smogon and twitter are skeptical or outright determined to keep this thing banned, but idk it seems completely fine
Joey you need to use Toxicroak in this OU meta. It's so underrated. Especially a bulky bulk up set with sucker for priority. Its been hard walling ogrepon and palafin for me.
@arthursdl honestly been running toxicroak with 252 atk / 252 def / 4 HP with an adament nature With dry skin + leftovers on a team with rain for added healing Drain Punch Poison Jab / Earthquake Sucker Bulk up Its been really good against lead samurott H, and after a bulk up or even 2 can really just make it so it walls palafin/ogrepon and they cant use water against it. Also after 2+ bulk ups can even do well against Great Tusk if tera flying to avoid the headlong and tank the ice spinner. People really dont know how to really counter a good croak play atm
I feel like Palafin gets put into the UUBL tier after this. The DLCs dropped a lot of meta mons that can really handle the dolphin like Wellspring, and those mons definitely make it a lot harder to abuse than when it was first released. The OU tier housing most of these means it will likely get pushed down, but then its overall power level is lower and I personally dont know any UU mons that might be able to handle it aside from getting revenged by Lokix
No way. Palafin only really seems bad now because everyone is mad overprepped for him. When the meta settles and everyone remembers they have to account for Kyurem, Bolt, Moon, and all the rest as well, Palafin's gonna have way more leg room and it'll start to be way stronger, maybe to the point of being axed - A+ mon at least. It's definitely gonna shift the OU metagame somewhat, push some frailer or water weak offensive mons into BL, push grasses like Rillaboom and Meow up a few ranks in the VR, hopefully make Kyurem overtuned enough to get another suspect since it beats most Palafin counterplay + Palafin smokes passive fat too while being less unhealthy... It's gonna make a splash, at least, believe me.
@@waaaaaaah I suppose part of this is overprepping. Even then you can still manage with a check or two. Palafin lowkey just feels like an OU variant of Lokix. It might change when you pull back into the larger meta game, but even then the scariest set is Banded and OU can pretty well handle that imo. If it does manage being OU, I doubt it becomes anywhere close to top 5 and is likely going to peak at middling
@@themister.s-1stI think krooby is trying to say that you can't just switch into CB Palafin with it because you risk getting OHKO'd even at full hp. Also, staying in on it in the 1v1 can also be risky on the off chance Palafin isn't Tera Water or another type weak to grass. Edit: Obv if you know it is locked into a water move or if another tera has been used it is really safe in the respective scenarios above.
In my personal testing (at 2k and 1600) its not that great. I would rather use wellspring or even walking wake. This stems from a personal dislike against palafin due to trauma from the past but also because its pretty fair and balanced rn
I'd say it is a bulky balance, not quite semi-stall. Ace and Tar are bulky enough to take some hits but can't check what they're trying to answer forever. Generally, a semi-stall will consist of one or two offensive threats while the rest of the team will try to cover their checks indefinitely.
@20oxide36 You are bit off in describing play styles here 1- Balance : You Have a backbone of 3-4 defensive Pokémon’s And 3-2 offensive one Hence the name balance Cause it’s combination of offense and defense . ( balance normally include breaker / late game cleaner /sweeper) There’s nothing called bulky balance bro So this either stall or semi stall Which blim always tend to run as he’s preferred playstyle . In stall you normally go 6 bulky pokemons . (rarely 5 with offensive Pokemon ) and that’s include unaware one Mostly with reliable recovery . But it’s not a necessity for the play styles of you have wish passer or regen core that will do This definitely can qualify as stall build But I still think it closer to semi stall build more than anything else
@weirdidiot4616 Bro wtf is bulky balance ? Where’s the balance here Where’s the offensive mon ? You don’t run around with cm pressure suicune and say this bulky balance dude You don’t run around with I’d corv and Oh I do damage that’s bulky balance What is bulky balance ??? Please go read the archetypes before You inventing phrase it’s not even useable Balance from its name it have offensive and defensive core Nasty plot or not your objective is take hit and constantly switching That what semi stall or stall is about What you all elo looking like Mr “Bulky balance”
I tried out Palafin on the OU ladder and played against it a fair bit-- honestly it doesn't seem that good, much less broken. I'm absolutely certain that Choice Band sets won't be a major issue. I'm still somewhat concerned about innovation with Bulk Up sets, but they probably won't be consistent enough to be a major metagame threat. I think you were right. This pokemon is fine.
Hi Pink!
What is your opinion on a Sp.Atk Palafin Throat Spray with Boomburst, Ice beam , hydro pump etc?
@@themister.s-1st dog shit
You literally spoke shit about Joey & Blunderr few weeks ago. Get lost from here.
No one cares about your opinion hatercross
yea this guy gains views by hating on aim & blunderr
Thank you Doctor Aim for the amazing content everyday. Happy Holidays to the whole Pokemon Community on behalf of The Industry.
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GOAT
Ty bro
I just imagine during the x3 Bulk Ups, Palafin doing a JoJo Pose for every individual Bulk Up.
He hits the Polnareff pose at +6
Snowbelle City theme is so incredible, perfect winter theme.
I'm not sure how it works but it would be pretty funny if weezing just permanently makes palafin the baby form
That would be hilarious, unfortunately all "form changing" abilities like Zero to Hero and Terapagos' Tera Shift are unaffected by Neutralizing Gas
@itztaytay2 they should implement it in gen 10 bc it would be really funny
Or make it as part of a goofy aah aah custom metagame
@itztaytay2 Oh. I thought zero to hero worked like regenerator. It wouldn't work if weezing was on the field when switching out.
weezings ability is strange, it's rather picky on which abilitys it works on but a rule of thumb is that it doesn't affect form changing ability's such as hunger switch, disguise, stance change, tera shift and of course zero to hero
Ice beam is so cool on T-Tar
It baits Lando-T and Gliscor
Pun intended? 🤔
@@nicolasromani3523yeah because he’s faster and can freeze
@@Gatebreakerglitcher I was writing it and realized after 💀
@@Pixxeltrixx Andre 3000: “what’s cooler than being cool?…”
Honestly good call on Palafin retest, im happy this mon is back. FIX OU, UNBAN PALAFIN!
I’ve seen the meta game already shifting to handle palafin with way more ogerpon and bolt, it doesn’t feel as broken as it did the day it got unbanned but I’m not sure yet it can clean up games better than gambit and on rain especially it can brute force through a lot of natural checks
Flip turn in the rain from banded killing Primarina from 80 is wild.
@@infamousinferno2506Fini.Jr has a Defense stat of 74 though…. Not that impressive imo.
@themister.s-1st Fair enough I suppose. But doing that kinda damage with a pivoting move feels cursed.
@@infamousinferno2506 i 100% think top tier players who think Palafin is fine rn will come to regret it soon enough. This thing is a stat stick that people are specifically planning for rn. it's got so much underexplored versatility I feel like it'll become too much to manage too soon. Very reasonably this thing can be band, bulkup + taunt, just bulkup, even scarf, even mixed, even AV! Once it's reintroduced into the tier and these niche sets all start popping up its gonna get the gouging treatment imo
@@SuperArjun11 Yeah. It's a shame that set variation is seen as a thing that pushes a mon over the edge now tho. We saw it with Volc too. Set variation used to be just a positive. Now it's something that's villainised.
Thumbnail be looking like a movie poster at first glance lol
Meant to look like Terminator
A lot of people seem to be citing that palafin is only being considered at a very surface level and that problems will start to arise once everyone starts looking past cb and standard bulk up but i really dont think the thing has the movepool deep or strong enough to have whatever variance it could run be too overwhelming on a broad scale. Bulk up sets obviously can toy around with teras and stuff like encore but beyond stuff like maybe mixed sets with boomburst, i think palafin for the most part is a known entity. Curious to hear your thoughts on the idea.
Merry Christmas Joey!
This looked like a Hydrapple video. My boy out there putting in some work!
I love using bulk upjet punch drain punch acro tera fly with a SALAC berry right now. Getting that speed jump is so clutch
Good for ogerpon and zamazenta to name a few
We need to test Dialga, Palkia and Giratina alongside Palafin so that we have more checks
So true blissey stocks rise to 3 quadrillion
@@Raizekusu Dialga would Iron Defense Body Press the hell out of Blisssy
palafin lowkey while puts out big damage isn’t necessarily even broken, it feels as if it has more answers than something like kyurem
a team with both kyurem and nifalap sounds evil. they deal with a lot of each other's checks and both have disgustingly dangerous set variety
"At this point, in think Palafin wins"
Said the man after Hydrapple wiped the floor with the opponent and was still alive and well.
Hydrapple put in insane work this live
Blimax is Hydrapple-maxxing and that's incredibly based
i don't see a universe where this thing is broken with waterpon and bolt in the tier. ntm zama and dozo. i know a lot of people on smogon and twitter are skeptical or outright determined to keep this thing banned, but idk it seems completely fine
87 views in 2 minutes, bro fe- *my lawyer told me to not continue this comment because it is getting stale, repetitive, unfunny, and cringe*
Agency legal team pulled up at your house huh?
@ Sadly, yes 😔
Guess your lawyer fell off
"Getting"?
Say he fell off without saying it 🤦♂️
Music sounding nice today
That snowbelle city theme made me so nostalgic
Joey you need to use Toxicroak in this OU meta.
It's so underrated. Especially a bulky bulk up set with sucker for priority.
Its been hard walling ogrepon and palafin for me.
May I ask about the EVs spread?
@arthursdl honestly been running toxicroak with 252 atk / 252 def / 4 HP with an adament nature
With dry skin + leftovers on a team with rain for added healing
Drain Punch
Poison Jab / Earthquake
Sucker
Bulk up
Its been really good against lead samurott H, and after a bulk up or even 2 can really just make it so it walls palafin/ogrepon and they cant use water against it. Also after 2+ bulk ups can even do well against Great Tusk if tera flying to avoid the headlong and tank the ice spinner.
People really dont know how to really counter a good croak play atm
Palafin I'm stepping fresh out the booth
Merry Christmas!
Good to see Palafin back in OU.
Merry christmas joey, thanks for bein the goat
Awesome video and merry Christmas 🎄🎁
I feel like Palafin gets put into the UUBL tier after this. The DLCs dropped a lot of meta mons that can really handle the dolphin like Wellspring, and those mons definitely make it a lot harder to abuse than when it was first released.
The OU tier housing most of these means it will likely get pushed down, but then its overall power level is lower and I personally dont know any UU mons that might be able to handle it aside from getting revenged by Lokix
Send him to RU, Volcanion can handle him fr fr
No way. Palafin only really seems bad now because everyone is mad overprepped for him. When the meta settles and everyone remembers they have to account for Kyurem, Bolt, Moon, and all the rest as well, Palafin's gonna have way more leg room and it'll start to be way stronger, maybe to the point of being axed - A+ mon at least. It's definitely gonna shift the OU metagame somewhat, push some frailer or water weak offensive mons into BL, push grasses like Rillaboom and Meow up a few ranks in the VR, hopefully make Kyurem overtuned enough to get another suspect since it beats most Palafin counterplay + Palafin smokes passive fat too while being less unhealthy... It's gonna make a splash, at least, believe me.
@@waaaaaaah I suppose part of this is overprepping. Even then you can still manage with a check or two.
Palafin lowkey just feels like an OU variant of Lokix. It might change when you pull back into the larger meta game, but even then the scariest set is Banded and OU can pretty well handle that imo. If it does manage being OU, I doubt it becomes anywhere close to top 5 and is likely going to peak at middling
Joey pls use choice band suicune!!
I don’t see how Palafin can get past ‘zenta or Lady Wellspring…..
Cb cc does a lot to both and wave crash is super strong into zama
CB CC ohkos standard wellspring
@@krooby7442 before or after a Horn Leech?
the fuck is zama supposed to do
@@themister.s-1stI think krooby is trying to say that you can't just switch into CB Palafin with it because you risk getting OHKO'd even at full hp. Also, staying in on it in the 1v1 can also be risky on the off chance Palafin isn't Tera Water or another type weak to grass.
Edit: Obv if you know it is locked into a water move or if another tera has been used it is really safe in the respective scenarios above.
Shout out to Hydrapple popping off for most of the live. Yeesh.
(Officially) Day 2 of asking for a Gen 6 RU vid before the tier leaves for the monthly meta shifts
Even on kurisimas, you gotta keep the upload streak going 🔛🔝🗣️🔥🔥🔥
goat thumbnail art this time
They freed the guy after two years 😩
Tera dragon blaze cinderace is hilarious
i used a tera flying no item palafin on the ladder and the team did pretty well. the palafin set was dog shit but the team itself was fun
Nice battle factory team
Nice vid mate
Jellicent would wall Palafin perfectly
Man I love this run palafin is so fun
Smooth Rock T-tar with teraRock Palafin for the culture?
In my personal testing (at 2k and 1600) its not that great. I would rather use wellspring or even walking wake.
This stems from a personal dislike against palafin due to trauma from the past but also because its pretty fair and balanced rn
Can always count on a Blim team
Day 21 of asking for Pressure + Lefties + Sub + Protect Zamazenta on a stall team in AAA. Bring back Vincune!
Day 1 of asking Joey to use Ninjask in DPP OU
Bro you skipped the 1400. Part 😂
WAIIIT IMA TRYHARD IT
day 8 of asking you to use unburden pokemon in trick room and fling iron ball to go from slowest to fastest
Feel like the tyranitar could be swapped with something better.
What happens if a G.Weezing(n.gas) is swapped in before Palafin.Zero is switches out?
Zero to hero still procks so it turns into the hero form. A shame since that'd make geezing even better which would be interesting
no more watch-togethers I guess :(
Is jellicent in gen 9 ou? Would be funny to run one specifically to wall palafin
Jellicent isn't in the game unfortunately
What’s the weird flying thing next to Joey in the intros?
What are you gonna vote?
Day 4 of asking for Chicken on a Balloon! (Air Balloon Blaziken)
Day 50 of asking for a Gen 9 Mix and Mega Vid. Todays suggested set is Latiasite Heatran for Levitate.
Day 38 of requesting Anger Shell Terrakion in AAA!
Day 8 of asking AAA regenerator Annihilape
Didn’t you make a video like this already?
He did
2 forms for palafin, 2 vids get made
This is a suspect test run so ye it will have multiple vids fam
Day 19 of asking for a new mamoswine stempede video with gator
Blim is the goat
palafin is gonna get banned i believe
Day 5 of asking for special palafin even though it's not that special (ironically)
i really love your content
>2 years
Stop the cap bro
Lmao 2022 november
@@pokeaimMD It's so over.
Nifilap
Imma be honest this thing might just wind up in uubl for the reminder if the gen. If its not broken it's trash.
Palafin should stay banned imo
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Yes, it was
They should have brought Flamepon instead
Nah ogerpon slaughters palafin completely it has it's place in OU as second place maybe even not with dragonite and what not
Is this stall or semi stall ???
I'd say it is a bulky balance, not quite semi-stall. Ace and Tar are bulky enough to take some hits but can't check what they're trying to answer forever. Generally, a semi-stall will consist of one or two offensive threats while the rest of the team will try to cover their checks indefinitely.
@20oxide36
You are bit off in describing play styles here
1- Balance :
You Have a backbone of 3-4 defensive Pokémon’s
And 3-2 offensive one
Hence the name balance
Cause it’s combination of offense and defense .
( balance normally include breaker / late game cleaner /sweeper)
There’s nothing called bulky balance bro
So this either stall or semi stall
Which blim always tend to run as he’s preferred playstyle .
In stall you normally go 6 bulky pokemons . (rarely 5 with offensive Pokemon ) and that’s include unaware one
Mostly with reliable recovery .
But it’s not a necessity for the play styles of you have wish passer or regen core that will do
This definitely can qualify as stall build
But I still think it closer to semi stall build more than anything else
@@samggh-tu2rv Stall does Not ever Run stuff like nasty Plot hydrapple, it is absolutely bulky Balance
@@samggh-tu2rvalso I Just realized that You said that bulky balance doesn't exist, are You drunk by any Chance?
@weirdidiot4616
Bro wtf is bulky balance ?
Where’s the balance here
Where’s the offensive mon ?
You don’t run around with cm pressure suicune and say this bulky balance dude
You don’t run around with I’d corv and
Oh I do damage that’s bulky balance
What is bulky balance ???
Please go read the archetypes before
You inventing phrase it’s not even useable
Balance from its name it have offensive and defensive core
Nasty plot or not your objective is take hit and constantly switching
That what semi stall or stall is about
What you all elo looking like
Mr “Bulky balance”
Palafin is mid
No views in 1 sec you fell off
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