Thank you for reviewing the 14-core base version of the M3 Max. I don’t know why so many other UA-camrs are only focusing on the highest end version when so few people are actually going to buy that.
I have a maxed out M1 Max 16" (64gb & 8tb), and it still exceeds what I need to have for photography, and post-production. I see not need to upgrade until the M6 or M7 series.
I have the same thinking, no need to upgrade until a very long time... Have the M1 Max 64 gb, 1tb 14 inch, I just should I've taken the 16 inch and the 2 TB version.
I've still got my 2021 16" M1Pro and I absolutely love it...beats the snot out of any other laptop I've used but I'm very tempted by that black finish...
Thanks. Excellent short term review. I have a 16" M1-PRO with 32GB/1TB, new 12/2021. The battery is at 101%, the display is perfect. It's paid for, does everything I have asked it to do with zero perceptible delay. It isn't going anyplace. That said, if I was to get a new one, it would be the identical twin to yours except this old retired Aerospace Engineer would absolutely have to get Space Black.
Thank you for your review. Gonna order mine soon. Can't wait, upgrading from M1 max as well. I'm a gamer so for me the extra performance is a must have.
I'm seriously buying the 16" M3 Pro. I need excellent video editing. And the memory bandwidth is incredibly important. Very sneaky of them to reduce the bandwidth on the other models but make it seem like it's better. Make a Gamer version Apple... As far as missing shipments, I truly believe it is sticky fingers. I always have items shipped to the closest Apple store, and that ensures 3-day delivery and quicker replacement if it's "lost"... yeah, lost, sure.
Just ordered my 16” MBP 48GB/ 40 core after 10 years of owning a 2013 MBP 4GB or 8GB ram lol will be holding onto this one for the next 10 years as well. I use my laptop for music production but would like to get into photography/ video editing as well.
I’m sure life is so much better now. I’m genuinely so happy for you. You deserve all the luxuries you’re getting for holding onto that old thing for that long.
I have an intel 2019 13" MacBook Pro, but as soon as the calendar year rolls around (also work fiscal year), I will be upgrading to this exact config. I am hoping that the black will be more readily available by then.
That's an excessive jump. Do you really all that power all of a sudden 🤷🏽♂ I had the same 13" Intel and upgraded to M2 and it was like a hundred times faster with almost 10x the battery. Better save $2000 if you don't need that extra power.
Holding on to my 16-inch M1 Max. Space Black is beautiful but it's just not worth the upgrade for me right now. Besides, I'm still holding out hope for a true matte black MBP with the return of the glowing Apple logo in a future generation.
This is I’m sure a stupid question but does anyone buy the apple protection? I didn’t for my last laptop but that was for my 2014 MacBook Pro so that was a long time ago. Anyway, let me know what you think.
The reason why Apple products go missing during shipping is because they get stolen. It's not Apple's fault (although Apple does get charged); shipping boxes get stolen all the time but Apple boxes particularly so.
I don't trust deliveries anyway....I pick up my Apple products at the Apple Tower in Downtown Los Angeles. I'm within 5 miles of 6 Apple stores so I don't depend on deliveries.
I don't edit or do anything crazy, but I bought the base Max 16" because I wanted to future proof as much as possible with Unified Memory, Storage, and Processing Power, so I opted for the base M3 Max. I managed to get 36 months at 0%, so imo why not spend just a bit more and get a better system overall without going too crazy. Some may think it's a bad buy, but the monthly payment isn't that much more for a more future proofed system imo. I got the Space Black and it looks so good, but I do like that contrast of the keyboard against the Silver color.
I got it too, but _Certified Refurbished directly from Apple's website_ because it's practically new anyway, same Warranty, new packaging and everything, just liek a new Mac, PLUS I _saved over $500,_ so why not get the higher spec Macbook at the discount? I got the Silver one because I preferred it, am used to it, and it goes with my Desktop Mac Studio Max and my external NAS perfectly. I also didn't want any potential scratches near the ports to show if I got the Black one. Cerfified Refurbished _directly from Apple website (nowhere else!)_ is the way to go. I did the same thing with my Mac Studio Max.
Thanks for reviewing this 16 inch max MacBook Pro. Wondering what is the external monitor you’re using. And how does it handle gaming, photo,video editing. Thanks.
The biggest downside is if you’ve ever used the MacBook Air M1 / M2, you’ll find this to be too bulky. It’s not a great travel laptop unless you absolutely need all that power even when you are travelling. The MBA just disappears into the rest of your luggage because it’s so thin and light! Also, I used to own a 14” M1 Pro base MBP. The edges dug into my left wrist so badly that I couldn’t type for too long on that laptop at all. I moved to the M2 air and have been super happy. For any heavy work, I have a desktop CPU.
Great video I’ve compared the 14” and 16” in Apple Store for weight and screen size and it’s the 16” I’ve gone for in space black as all previous MB Pros have been silver.
As a Windows gaming laptop user, and an Android user, these new M-chip Macbooks might be the catalyst I need to jump over into the walled garden. the only hurdle right now is the gaming part, but with Capcom and Ubisoft releasing AAA games on the iPhone, I might even delve into the Apple Arcade Plus/Max/Ultra (that includes desktop games like Xbox Game Pass)
I am probably gonna get within the next month the 14" M3 Max 16 core. Yes I know kind of a weird choice. I like the 14" form factor more than the 16". I travel a lot and I use my iPad 12.9 as a second monitor so no screen size issue. Also, I could be fine with the 14 core model but I want more RAM than the base 36GB without having to drop an extra $1000 for the 96GB version. So the spec I am leaning towards is 14" M3 Max 16 core 64GB RAM in space black. I hope it doesn't get too toasty when I run sustained all core loads on it haha.
I find it crazy how Apple only provides the full 400 GB/s memory speeds with the most expensive M3 Max version (48GB and up) - the M3 Max base version is nerfed to 300 GB/s. Last years model even had the full 400 GB/s speeds on the M2 Pro... In some workloads this would be a deal breaker. I’m sure the M3 is capable of handling anything you throw at it, but the fact that last years model might outperform this years model on certain areas is not good. Especially considering the price premium they charge for it. Apple is getting scummy. Corporate greed at it’s finest.
still people think ipads and imacs and macbooks are same as a ipad and does the same shit lol. back in 2010 when i got my imac my friend at work said why cant i get an ipad instead of the imac and i laughed because u just cant do the same shit with it. its like saying why cant i use an iphone instead of a macbook and answer being because they are totally different. iphone and ipad match with what they can do.
Enjoy !! I was using my iPad Pro 11” as a laptop basically to get breaks from my gaming pc . I grabbed the m2 MacBook Air and I love it! I know you will love your MacBook Pro! God bless!
@@steveellsworth2547 Movies are phenomenal on the 16". Blacks are black and not gray, no light leakage or blurring, and great colors. I have never noticed any kind of response rates.
Great Review, I went from an M1 MAX to an M3 and this is the first review Ive seen of the base model M3 Max, everyone seems to add 128 MB of RAM and a 8 GB drive to review it and this gives me a more 1 to 1 review of what I got. How did you do the process of moving your stuff over from M1 to M3, just the standard transfer process?
I bought the same model, but in black. I had been using a 14" M1 Pro since it came out and was fine with the performance, but I had come from the Intel 16" and was annoyed by the way the 14" dug into my wrists when I was using it. Not a bad laptop in anyway, just the way I rest my palms on the device made it uncomfortable for me. I find the 16" much more comfortable and while I know this new one is much faster, the only place I have found it noticeable at all is in BG3.
@@PahenPWNZ Everything is set to ultra or high, thats what was auto detected by the game. Resolution is set to 2440x1600. I don't know the exact FPS because I have not been able to get the Steam FPS counter to work since I received this machine, but it's definitely over 60. I would guess either in the high 90s or low 100s, but thats just a guess.
How do you think the Dell xps 9730 would stack up against this new Macbook Pro? And do you know when Dell will come out with the next version of the 17" xps, a 2024 version, and what changes might be made to it, upgrades? I just love that 17" screen in a near 15" form factor. That said, the 22 hrs battery life of the Macbook Pro is pretty darn appealing too.
No Windows laptop is nowhere near as good and optimized as these new Macbooks. No Windows laptop is able to perform as good as a Macbook on battery. It really depends on what you are going to use it for, but nothing beats Apple on laptops atm. Even the most expensive Windows fall flat. If you are a gamer though, you basically have no choice other than going for a Windows laptop.
Man, I was considering ordering one online but now I’m not sure. I had a bad experience buying my mom a new M2 15 inch Air a week ago from an Apple Store at a mall. They gave me a used one that was scratched, dirty, and that tissue paper was ripped up. It was fun explaining to them that I nor my mom scratched up the laptop before they eventually swapped me another one. Anyways, my 2019 16 inch Intel machine (I think) is about to bite the big one. It won’t charge anymore when I’m using it. The fans are making a funny sound. I figured this would be a good excuse to upgrade. I wanted to wait until the M4, but I don’t think I’ll have a chance. Also, what settings are you using for WoW and have you played it on retail? My 2019 can’t handle retail anymore on High.
I am torn between a refurbished m2 max with 64gb ram, and a m3 base max with 36gb ram. Both are priced similarly with 2tb ssd. I'll be mostly using it for lightroom. Will eventually lean into davichi as I learn to make videos. If you had to choose, which would you get?
When you are editing videos have you had any issues with your configuration? Would you have upgraded anything now that you have had it for a few weeks? I am looking to buy one myself for UA-cam videos?
Sorry but you are making me confused, in one of your other videos (The one about your tech pack) , how much you like your 14 inch MBP and your 16 inch is just sitting at the corner, and now you say visa versa?
Mac OS aside, how does this 16 M3 Max compare to the Asus Zenbook Pro 16x 4080 version ? Serious question since I’m debating between the 2. I love the 20+ hours battery life of the M3 Max, but I can’t overlook the lack of gaming experience on a Mac, especially when the 4080 in the Zenbook Pro 16 just blows everything out of the water.
I like watching people with money to burn, reviewing these lovely shiney new laptops. If apple released a platinum model for 5 times the cost, you could watch someone reviewing it on here and have every varient lol.
Do you think the 14 core with 96 unified memory is better than getting the 16 core with 64 unified memory? This will be mostly for doing video editing and photography.
Amazon is not great either. I sent an M1 back and they got it, but wouldn't refund my Discover card. Just a warning, I did everything I could. Apple always makes it good. Great video
I cannot fond anyone telling how bad as an option is 14 inch macbook with max setup. Everyone says it will not handle the heat, but in comparison how bad. What about battery test. Like there’s no videos… no test… or is there…?
I haven't found a reviewer yet that discusses the 58ms screen response time on the M3 Macbook Pro. Kind of hard to shell out top dollar, for a laptop with a subpar portion of its display.
Do you have a link for this? Was it just a subset of a batch or are you saying they all do? I'm notoriously latency-sensitive but haven't noticed this at all, am super curious, thanks
Hi there, I watched so many videos on the new MB pro's and M3 max chips. Yours is the very best and most positive. I am about to run to apple store and place an order. My old mid 2009 17" MB Pro had similar specs as the base model- as when I bought it , I maxed out everything including the Matte screen which I love the best. it was a very sufficient and efficient machine. I use Logic pro along with my Apogee Duet and I am using it still as I type this to you. Question if I may? My Duet interface needs a firewire 800 port.( My laptop came with every imaginable port you could possibly need) Can I or will I still be able to use my Apogee Duet with a new MBPro M3 max 16" ? God I hope so? They work effortlessly together with zero latency which was huge for me. Please if you know of a special cable or way to continue my usage of my Apogee Duet -let me know? A 1000 thanks buddy.
Exactly my machine (except I got space black and a 2TB SSD). I am pretty convinced this is one sweetspot in the lineup. Except for the price, which made me ill.
$3500???? OK...happy for you. Developers are not going to count on the marketshare of people willing to pay that for a laptop is what they should target when it comes to porting a game. YES, it's probably the best laptop ever. Still limited by cost when it comes to market share adoption, which you mentioned.
I actually ordered the space black m3 max model you ordered. I ended up switching to the silver as I got it sooner. Switching from a 13 inch 2012 MacBook Pro. I love this computer it is amazing. (I have a windows gaming desktop with 3080ti founders edition. So I’m not an apple fan boy) This laptop is just an amazing travel work laptop
I know one downside that apparently every UA-camr leaves out about the MacBooks. I have the m1 pro and the keys lose their matte coating overtime leaving behind a shiny surface. For such an expensive laptop Apple uses some of most garbage keycaps I've ever seen in a laptop. Besides that I'm loving my MacBook.
Ok guys let’s buy this now. Then buy the next year’s MacBook again because it’s so much smarter and faster than the extremely archaic chips M3, M2, M1. No one can do anything productive or fun on those chips, except only on M4 chip.
Great video! Have you noticed a difference from your M1 Max to your new M3 Max in terms of fan noise? You mentioned the fans do kick on in the M3 Max. Was the M1 Max comparable in its thermals/fan noise? I’m considering the base M3 Max for music production (Logic Pro) and I’m hoping it can be a quiet powerhouse for that purpose (I want to eliminate as much background noise as possible in the home studio… and I’m coming from an Intel MBP that is not quiet). A friend who uses his M1 Max for music production says he’s never heard the fans, which is amazing. But I do like the idea of getting a new laptop with the extra power, if the M3 max can be silent most of the time (or at least quiet). Thanks for the video!
My son uses Logic on a binned version of the M1 Pro, 512 GByte SSD, 16 Mbyte of RAM. He has dozens of tracks open and uses plugins. He has never complained of fan noise from the system.
@@gerald1964 That’s great to hear! Thanks! I’m wondering if the newer higher powered chips are going to run hotter, and therefore make more fan noise… but I hope the M3 Max is able to stay cool enough without using the fans too often in Logic Pro.
I'm just going to post this bc this lad that made the video severely overpaid for this M3 Max. $3499 for his M3 Max with only 36GB RAM and 1TB SSD...oof. You can get a 16" M1 Max with 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD on B&H right now for $2799 and the 14" variant for $2499. I just got a new one on eBay for $2000 flat a couple of days ago. Another one just sold for $2300. Brand new. Both 16" models. $3499 for the M3 Max base, so you're paying ~$3800, close to $4K after taxes, for that M3 Max with significantly less RAM and storage lol. Don't over pay for products that just dropped on the market that have marginally increased performance. The aforementioned spec'd M1 Max MacBook Pro was over $4K when it came out (and it's still a banger), but now you can get it for close to a 50% discount. Again, to reiterate: brand new, not refurbished/used. If you're a music producer and don't need to be mobile, there are a few (new) Mac Studio M1 Max variants available on eBay with 32GB RAM and 512GB SSD for $1399. Insane deal. If you are already going to spend $3K+, I'd get the M1 Max bc the differences are negligible on real-world use, you'll never notice...and I'm assuming you're not a 3D artist using Blender or Cinema 4D so you don't even need any of the slight performance increases you'd get with the M3 Max. What matters most is RAM on these configurations. M1 Max with 64GB RAM is the way to go...plus you get 2TB of storage, for basically $1000 less. I also bought an M1 Mac Mini 8GB base model when it first came out and it runs Ableton surprisingly well with a good amount of VSTs, effects, and plugins running lol. It's wild. Anyway... Get the M1 Max @ B&H ;) It's a way better deal.
I saw another video where the fans ramped up significantly , but the CPU clock frequencies did not ramp down when the Max processor was used in a 14 inch machine.
To the people who want the brighter screen but are fine with the performance like me. Download vivid it’s the same damn screen Apple just unlocked more brightness and vivid unlocks it. I’ll keep on using my base M1 MacBook pro 14in. I kinda regret not doing a custom order for 32gb of ram. But I’ve never got my memory pressure over 50% anyways so by the time I feel that squeeze I’ll probably upgrade to a M4 or M5 variant. Waiting on OLED for both my iPad Pro 2018 11 in and my MacBook Pro.
degrading fast(might die or burnt) because run at 106c throtling alot, no vapor chamber should have 4 exhaust , the macbook cant tame the BEAST chip M3Max
I have had 2 MacBooks go missing with Apple/UPS...very aggravating. In the same exact situation as you lol, got a silver 16' M3 Max. Still not sure if I should try to go for the Space Black. Silver looks great though.
Instead of a book, look at the MOTF sit-stand laptop stand. It folds flat when in my laptop case and raises the display sitting at a table or hotel desk. It literally changed the way I use my computer. I find I use it all the time on my desk even though I have a dedicated aluminum laptop stand.
i got 14in base m3 max as my first macbook.. so glad to see that you picked the base max model.. didnt see anybody else in youtube world talking about it.. may i ask for advice pls.. should i buy apple care? is it wise to have it?
Considering making the jump to this from my M1 Max Studio that I got at launch. The portability isn't crucial for me, BUT it would be a nice upgrade and probably the biggest driver is I'm afraid the trade-in value of the Studio will be nerfed to crap.
I had three shipments of the iPhone 15 that got stolen before I finally was able to get one. It was being delivered to a work address and I was sitting there at the delivery time. I believe the driver was just stealing them without making a real delivery attempt.
I really need some advice from you guys. Would you still buy a refurbished base m1pro right now for video editing. (still a student therefore budget is not that high) thanks to everyone who replies
Definitely! M1 pro is perfected and doesn't fall too behind the m2/m3. The only noticeable difference, at least for me, is the battery life as the m3 lasts a bit longer (by an hour or two), but the m1 pro still lasted me 12+ hours of medium use. LMK if you have any other questions!
I edited video today with an M1 Pro. It is not my main gig so I don't have the same data load and deadlines as a pro video editor, but the M1 Pro smoothly handles the video editing I do. Sure, the M3 would be better and somewhat faster, especially if you are going to pile on tracks and effects. But on a budget the M1 Pro is a solid option at the discount prices they go for now. Just get 16GB or more of unified memory to not starve the GPU, I have 32GB and would recommend that if it fits your budget.
It depends what you do. I ended up taking the max 64gb 1tb as I’m gonna run some machine learning algorithms on it. But if it’s only to browse on safari, I would have picked the m3 pro :)
Hey, does anyone (or the creator) have any suggestions for a dock where I can connect my MBP a monitor / keyboard mouse seamlessly so I can quickly unplug and use it alone / connected to everything ? Some suggestions would be great.
I have been using an OWC Thunderbolt Dock for several years, first with my old Intel MacBook Pro and recently with my M1 Pro. It’s been great. I have two displays, keyboard and graphics tablet, lots of USB devices, and storage connected through it. I do like only needing to plug and unplug one Thunderbolt cable to the laptop for access to everything including power. If I was buying today, I would also consider the CalDigit TS4 Thunderbolt dock, but it is even more expensive. So I am seeing if my current dock will hold out until the Thunderbolt 5 docks come out (which is not soon).
Thank you for reviewing the 14-core base version of the M3 Max. I don’t know why so many other UA-camrs are only focusing on the highest end version when so few people are actually going to buy that.
Because its what Apple sent out as review units
I have a maxed out M1 Max 16" (64gb & 8tb), and it still exceeds what I need to have for photography, and post-production. I see not need to upgrade until the M6 or M7 series.
I have the same thinking, no need to upgrade until a very long time...
Have the M1 Max 64 gb, 1tb 14 inch, I just should I've taken the 16 inch and the 2 TB version.
Unless they put in more video encoding/decoding cores or whatever that tech is, I see no reason to upgrade also.
8tb of CP
I've had my M3 Max a few weeks now and it really is impressive. I've done iOS development, music production and video editing on it. It's so good.
How is the battery life?
Just ordered one (M3 Max) to do music production and video editing as well!
The downside: the price
Absolutely not for what it offers! The storage and RAM upgrade prices are terrible though
You really expect the ‘best’ laptop to be cheap?
@@nyehu09exactly lmfaoooo
Mac’s are for rich people bro we don’t complain or even look at the price.
I dont think so, I'm a college student and started working for the first time a few months ago, I'm now making 700$ a month on my part-time job
I've still got my 2021 16" M1Pro and I absolutely love it...beats the snot out of any other laptop I've used but I'm very tempted by that black finish...
Silver really does look SO good! I have a newer Silver and Space Gray color and highly prefer Silver :)
Yep I agree on the silver; had the space black for a week and it drove me nuts with the fingerprints and had to return it :)
I’m glad to see someone finally making a review on the base m3 max model
Thanks. Excellent short term review. I have a 16" M1-PRO with 32GB/1TB, new 12/2021. The battery is at 101%, the display is perfect. It's paid for, does everything I have asked it to do with zero perceptible delay. It isn't going anyplace. That said, if I was to get a new one, it would be the identical twin to yours except this old retired Aerospace Engineer would absolutely have to get Space Black.
This is exactly the Macbook model I want to buy for college. I was worried that 16 would be too big but this review changed my mind.
@@Smoovs1956 thanks for the heads up.
That color is gorgeous. I love how stylish the M3 Max Macbook is. Gorgeous laptop!
Why do I subscribe to Your Channel. All it does is convince, well anyway I got a Macbook M3 Pro 36 GB 512 SSD Yesterday because of You!
Thank you for your review. Gonna order mine soon. Can't wait, upgrading from M1 max as well. I'm a gamer so for me the extra performance is a must have.
I'm seriously buying the 16" M3 Pro. I need excellent video editing. And the memory bandwidth is incredibly important. Very sneaky of them to reduce the bandwidth on the other models but make it seem like it's better. Make a Gamer version Apple...
As far as missing shipments, I truly believe it is sticky fingers. I always have items shipped to the closest Apple store, and that ensures 3-day delivery and quicker replacement if it's "lost"... yeah, lost, sure.
Just ordered my 16” MBP 48GB/ 40 core after 10 years of owning a 2013 MBP 4GB or 8GB ram lol will be holding onto this one for the next 10 years as well. I use my laptop for music production but would like to get into photography/ video editing as well.
I’m sure life is so much better now.
I’m genuinely so happy for you.
You deserve all the luxuries you’re getting for holding onto that old thing for that long.
I have an intel 2019 13" MacBook Pro, but as soon as the calendar year rolls around (also work fiscal year), I will be upgrading to this exact config. I am hoping that the black will be more readily available by then.
That's an excessive jump. Do you really all that power all of a sudden 🤷🏽♂ I had the same 13" Intel and upgraded to M2 and it was like a hundred times faster with almost 10x the battery. Better save $2000 if you don't need that extra power.
Great review. I'm upgrading from an Intel MacBook (16" Macbook Pro 2019) and plan on using this for grad school.
Holding on to my 16-inch M1 Max. Space Black is beautiful but it's just not worth the upgrade for me right now. Besides, I'm still holding out hope for a true matte black MBP with the return of the glowing Apple logo in a future generation.
This is I’m sure a stupid question but does anyone buy the apple protection? I didn’t for my last laptop but that was for my 2014 MacBook Pro so that was a long time ago. Anyway, let me know what you think.
The reason why Apple products go missing during shipping is because they get stolen. It's not Apple's fault (although Apple does get charged); shipping boxes get stolen all the time but Apple boxes particularly so.
Now I’m just imagining a truck getting stopped like in Goodfellas.
You’re definitely not wrong. My cousin had his iPhone 14 stolen and they had the nerve to mark it as delivered when there was no box in sight 😒
Is the M3 Silver the same as the M1 Silver?
I don't trust deliveries anyway....I pick up my Apple products at the Apple Tower in Downtown Los Angeles. I'm within 5 miles of 6 Apple stores so I don't depend on deliveries.
What a place to live in 2023
@@psysword The United States Post Office loses too many items.
That color definitely looks gorgeous! Great review as usual!
If you're paying $3500 for a laptop, you better get the color you want!!
Right 😂 I would be fuming
The color looks different from the older silver MBP models! I actually love it.
I don't edit or do anything crazy, but I bought the base Max 16" because I wanted to future proof as much as possible with Unified Memory, Storage, and Processing Power, so I opted for the base M3 Max. I managed to get 36 months at 0%, so imo why not spend just a bit more and get a better system overall without going too crazy. Some may think it's a bad buy, but the monthly payment isn't that much more for a more future proofed system imo. I got the Space Black and it looks so good, but I do like that contrast of the keyboard against the Silver color.
I got it too, but _Certified Refurbished directly from Apple's website_ because it's practically new anyway, same Warranty, new packaging and everything, just liek a new Mac, PLUS I _saved over $500,_ so why not get the higher spec Macbook at the discount?
I got the Silver one because I preferred it, am used to it, and it goes with my Desktop Mac Studio Max and my external NAS perfectly. I also didn't want any potential scratches near the ports to show if I got the Black one.
Cerfified Refurbished _directly from Apple website (nowhere else!)_ is the way to go. I did the same thing with my Mac Studio Max.
Thanks for reviewing this 16 inch max MacBook Pro. Wondering what is the external monitor you’re using. And how does it handle gaming, photo,video editing. Thanks.
The problem with reflective screens is that the reflection takes away like half of your screen brightness
“ships happen”LOL loved it
The biggest downside is if you’ve ever used the MacBook Air M1 / M2, you’ll find this to be too bulky. It’s not a great travel laptop unless you absolutely need all that power even when you are travelling. The MBA just disappears into the rest of your luggage because it’s so thin and light!
Also, I used to own a 14” M1 Pro base MBP. The edges dug into my left wrist so badly that I couldn’t type for too long on that laptop at all. I moved to the M2 air and have been super happy. For any heavy work, I have a desktop CPU.
Great video I’ve compared the 14” and 16” in Apple Store for weight and screen size and it’s the 16” I’ve gone for in space black as all previous MB Pros have been silver.
that iMac carry bag!! 🤣🤣🤣 great review, MacBook Pro '16 is my favorite computer!
As a Windows gaming laptop user, and an Android user, these new M-chip Macbooks might be the catalyst I need to jump over into the walled garden. the only hurdle right now is the gaming part, but with Capcom and Ubisoft releasing AAA games on the iPhone, I might even delve into the Apple Arcade Plus/Max/Ultra (that includes desktop games like Xbox Game Pass)
Despite what reviewers say, Macs are not gaming machines. Save your money.
I am probably gonna get within the next month the 14" M3 Max 16 core. Yes I know kind of a weird choice. I like the 14" form factor more than the 16". I travel a lot and I use my iPad 12.9 as a second monitor so no screen size issue. Also, I could be fine with the 14 core model but I want more RAM than the base 36GB without having to drop an extra $1000 for the 96GB version. So the spec I am leaning towards is 14" M3 Max 16 core 64GB RAM in space black. I hope it doesn't get too toasty when I run sustained all core loads on it haha.
I find it crazy how Apple only provides the full 400 GB/s memory speeds with the most expensive M3 Max version (48GB and up) - the M3 Max base version is nerfed to 300 GB/s. Last years model even had the full 400 GB/s speeds on the M2 Pro...
In some workloads this would be a deal breaker. I’m sure the M3 is capable of handling anything you throw at it, but the fact that last years model might outperform this years model on certain areas is not good. Especially considering the price premium they charge for it.
Apple is getting scummy. Corporate greed at it’s finest.
14" in space black... Coming from an ipad pro 11" that I've been getting along with just fine, the 14" helps keep things light and compact ;)
still people think ipads and imacs and macbooks are same as a ipad and does the same shit lol. back in 2010 when i got my imac my friend at work said why cant i get an ipad instead of the imac and i laughed because u just cant do the same shit with it. its like saying why cant i use an iphone instead of a macbook and answer being because they are totally different. iphone and ipad match with what they can do.
Enjoy !! I was using my iPad Pro 11” as a laptop basically to get breaks from my gaming pc . I grabbed the m2 MacBook Air and I love it! I know you will love your MacBook Pro! God bless!
Mine is coming in Tuesday I got the same $3499 model but I got in space black
Is the 58ms screen response time a concern? Not sure if you game, but if you do or watch movies with a ton of action, you will see blurring.
@@steveellsworth2547 Movies are phenomenal on the 16". Blacks are black and not gray, no light leakage or blurring, and great colors. I have never noticed any kind of response rates.
Great Review, I went from an M1 MAX to an M3 and this is the first review Ive seen of the base model M3 Max, everyone seems to add 128 MB of RAM and a 8 GB drive to review it and this gives me a more 1 to 1 review of what I got. How did you do the process of moving your stuff over from M1 to M3, just the standard
transfer process?
Migration Assistant is a great tool from Macs. I used it between my M1 MacBook Air to M2 MacBook Air. I got all my files, desktop, and downloads.
I bought the same model, but in black. I had been using a 14" M1 Pro since it came out and was fine with the performance, but I had come from the Intel 16" and was annoyed by the way the 14" dug into my wrists when I was using it. Not a bad laptop in anyway, just the way I rest my palms on the device made it uncomfortable for me. I find the 16" much more comfortable and while I know this new one is much faster, the only place I have found it noticeable at all is in BG3.
What graphics do you use and how many fps in BG3?
@@PahenPWNZ Everything is set to ultra or high, thats what was auto detected by the game. Resolution is set to 2440x1600. I don't know the exact FPS because I have not been able to get the Steam FPS counter to work since I received this machine, but it's definitely over 60. I would guess either in the high 90s or low 100s, but thats just a guess.
@@Semi-Detached wow that’s dope results, could it be that MacBooks are going in gaming direction 🥳
Thanks for the answer! :)
How do you think the Dell xps 9730 would stack up against this new Macbook Pro? And do you know when Dell will come out with the next version of the 17" xps, a 2024 version, and what changes might be made to it, upgrades? I just love that 17" screen in a near 15" form factor. That said, the 22 hrs battery life of the Macbook Pro is pretty darn appealing too.
Wrong chat room bruh 😂
No Windows laptop is nowhere near as good and optimized as these new Macbooks. No Windows laptop is able to perform as good as a Macbook on battery.
It really depends on what you are going to use it for, but nothing beats Apple on laptops atm. Even the most expensive Windows fall flat.
If you are a gamer though, you basically have no choice other than going for a Windows laptop.
Sorry about the delay. You can borrow mine
Man, I was considering ordering one online but now I’m not sure. I had a bad experience buying my mom a new M2 15 inch Air a week ago from an Apple Store at a mall. They gave me a used one that was scratched, dirty, and that tissue paper was ripped up. It was fun explaining to them that I nor my mom scratched up the laptop before they eventually swapped me another one.
Anyways, my 2019 16 inch Intel machine (I think) is about to bite the big one. It won’t charge anymore when I’m using it. The fans are making a funny sound. I figured this would be a good excuse to upgrade. I wanted to wait until the M4, but I don’t think I’ll have a chance. Also, what settings are you using for WoW and have you played it on retail? My 2019 can’t handle retail anymore on High.
I returned mine for the 14 inch because the 16 inch was just too big for being able to use it on airplanes and in presentations
M1 Pro. Perfectly happy with it. Apple will have to give me something more in design to get me to upgrade. CPU/GPU isn't enough.
I am torn between a refurbished m2 max with 64gb ram, and a m3 base max with 36gb ram. Both are priced similarly with 2tb ssd. I'll be mostly using it for lightroom. Will eventually lean into davichi as I learn to make videos.
If you had to choose, which would you get?
When you are editing videos have you had any issues with your configuration? Would you have upgraded anything now that you have had it for a few weeks? I am looking to buy one myself for UA-cam videos?
Sorry but you are making me confused, in one of your other videos (The one about your tech pack) , how much you like your 14 inch MBP and your 16 inch is just sitting at the corner, and now you say visa versa?
Mac OS aside, how does this 16 M3 Max compare to the Asus Zenbook Pro 16x 4080 version ? Serious question since I’m debating between the 2. I love the 20+ hours battery life of the M3 Max, but I can’t overlook the lack of gaming experience on a Mac, especially when the 4080 in the Zenbook Pro 16 just blows everything out of the water.
I like watching people with money to burn, reviewing these lovely shiney new laptops. If apple released a platinum model for 5 times the cost, you could watch someone reviewing it on here and have every varient lol.
Do you think the 14 core with 96 unified memory is better than getting the 16 core with 64 unified memory? This will be mostly for doing video editing and photography.
Amazon is not great either. I sent an M1 back and they got it, but wouldn't refund my Discover card. Just a warning, I did everything I could. Apple always makes it good. Great video
I cannot fond anyone telling how bad as an option is 14 inch macbook with max setup. Everyone says it will not handle the heat, but in comparison how bad. What about battery test. Like there’s no videos… no test… or is there…?
I got the 14 inch version of this and hoping that'll be as good too. I keep seeing just 16 inch reviews
I haven't found a reviewer yet that discusses the 58ms screen response time on the M3 Macbook Pro. Kind of hard to shell out top dollar, for a laptop with a subpar portion of its display.
Do you have a link for this? Was it just a subset of a batch or are you saying they all do? I'm notoriously latency-sensitive but haven't noticed this at all, am super curious, thanks
M3 max it’s good but All I wanna know is the laptop goes over heat & the fans go loud on a heavy use ?!!
Hi there, I watched so many videos on the new MB pro's and M3 max chips. Yours is the very best and most positive. I am about to run to apple store and place an order. My old mid 2009 17" MB Pro had similar specs as the base model- as when I bought it , I maxed out everything including the Matte screen which I love the best.
it was a very sufficient and efficient machine. I use Logic pro along with my Apogee Duet and I am using it still as I type this to you.
Question if I may? My Duet interface needs a firewire 800 port.( My laptop came with every imaginable port you could possibly need)
Can I or will I still be able to use my Apogee Duet with a new MBPro M3 max 16" ? God I hope so? They work effortlessly together with zero latency which was huge for me.
Please if you know of a special cable or way to continue my usage of my Apogee Duet -let me know? A 1000 thanks buddy.
Still using an i9 2019macbook pro 16inch. Have some trouble with the fans but the rest is perfect 😂
Exactly my machine (except I got space black and a 2TB SSD). I am pretty convinced this is one sweetspot in the lineup. Except for the price, which made me ill.
$3500???? OK...happy for you. Developers are not going to count on the marketshare of people willing to pay that for a laptop is what they should target when it comes to porting a game. YES, it's probably the best laptop ever. Still limited by cost when it comes to market share adoption, which you mentioned.
I am not a content creator. My M1 Pro MB 16" is still enough for everything I do. Will wait for M6 😀
Love the video
I actually ordered the space black m3 max model you ordered. I ended up switching to the silver as I got it sooner. Switching from a 13 inch 2012 MacBook Pro. I love this computer it is amazing. (I have a windows gaming desktop with 3080ti founders edition. So I’m not an apple fan boy) This laptop is just an amazing travel work laptop
Wow. That’s amazing. I thought I was doing the most upgrade from a 2014 MacBook Pro.
I know one downside that apparently every UA-camr leaves out about the MacBooks. I have the m1 pro and the keys lose their matte coating overtime leaving behind a shiny surface. For such an expensive laptop Apple uses some of most garbage keycaps I've ever seen in a laptop. Besides that I'm loving my MacBook.
Agreed. Same thing on my M1 Pro 14 keys. I’ve tried isopropyl alcohol but the keys are still shiny. Oh well. Still an amazing laptop
I don't know why. Somehow I prefer the silver other than fake black!
Ok guys let’s buy this now. Then buy the next year’s MacBook again because it’s so much smarter and faster than the extremely archaic chips M3, M2, M1. No one can do anything productive or fun on those chips, except only on M4 chip.
What about USB A could do with one of those.
Good to see you made it outside again.
Are you sure it’s a different silver colour? I noticed they did change the silver sometime between 2008 and 2019 but I’m not sure after that.
what is the answer sir, i am planning to buy macbook pro m3 pro, is it a different silver color, i mean is it good than old or bad ?
It would be great if they figured out how to make it useful in cybersecurity software
What do you think about 128Gb ram version- is it overkilled for next 5 years?
Yes, the soc manage ram so well these days.
Great video! Have you noticed a difference from your M1 Max to your new M3 Max in terms of fan noise? You mentioned the fans do kick on in the M3 Max. Was the M1 Max comparable in its thermals/fan noise? I’m considering the base M3 Max for music production (Logic Pro) and I’m hoping it can be a quiet powerhouse for that purpose (I want to eliminate as much background noise as possible in the home studio… and I’m coming from an Intel MBP that is not quiet). A friend who uses his M1 Max for music production says he’s never heard the fans, which is amazing. But I do like the idea of getting a new laptop with the extra power, if the M3 max can be silent most of the time (or at least quiet). Thanks for the video!
My son uses Logic on a binned version of the M1 Pro, 512 GByte SSD, 16 Mbyte of RAM. He has dozens of tracks open and uses plugins. He has never complained of fan noise from the system.
@@gerald1964 That’s great to hear! Thanks! I’m wondering if the newer higher powered chips are going to run hotter, and therefore make more fan noise… but I hope the M3 Max is able to stay cool enough without using the fans too often in Logic Pro.
I'm just going to post this bc this lad that made the video severely overpaid for this M3 Max. $3499 for his M3 Max with only 36GB RAM and 1TB SSD...oof.
You can get a 16" M1 Max with 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD on B&H right now for $2799 and the 14" variant for $2499.
I just got a new one on eBay for $2000 flat a couple of days ago. Another one just sold for $2300. Brand new. Both 16" models.
$3499 for the M3 Max base, so you're paying ~$3800, close to $4K after taxes, for that M3 Max with significantly less RAM and storage lol.
Don't over pay for products that just dropped on the market that have marginally increased performance.
The aforementioned spec'd M1 Max MacBook Pro was over $4K when it came out (and it's still a banger), but now you can get it for close to a 50% discount. Again, to reiterate: brand new, not refurbished/used.
If you're a music producer and don't need to be mobile, there are a few (new) Mac Studio M1 Max variants available on eBay with 32GB RAM and 512GB SSD for $1399. Insane deal.
If you are already going to spend $3K+, I'd get the M1 Max bc the differences are negligible on real-world use, you'll never notice...and I'm assuming you're not a 3D artist using Blender or Cinema 4D so you don't even need any of the slight performance increases you'd get with the M3 Max.
What matters most is RAM on these configurations. M1 Max with 64GB RAM is the way to go...plus you get 2TB of storage, for basically $1000 less.
I also bought an M1 Mac Mini 8GB base model when it first came out and it runs Ableton surprisingly well with a good amount of VSTs, effects, and plugins running lol. It's wild.
Anyway...
Get the M1 Max @ B&H ;)
It's a way better deal.
I saw another video where the fans ramped up significantly , but the CPU clock frequencies did not ramp down when the Max processor was used in a 14 inch machine.
@@hodlwise2470 I will be waiting for similar price reductions on the M2 Max. GPU scaling issues of M1 are resolved on M2.
now that you have the silver and have seen the space black, do you still think you made the right choice picking the silver?
on the same doubt, confused between silver and space black
To the people who want the brighter screen but are fine with the performance like me. Download vivid it’s the same damn screen Apple just unlocked more brightness and vivid unlocks it. I’ll keep on using my base M1 MacBook pro 14in. I kinda regret not doing a custom order for 32gb of ram. But I’ve never got my memory pressure over 50% anyways so by the time I feel that squeeze I’ll probably upgrade to a M4 or M5 variant. Waiting on OLED for both my iPad Pro 2018 11 in and my MacBook Pro.
degrading fast(might die or burnt) because run at 106c throtling alot, no vapor chamber should have 4 exhaust , the macbook cant tame the BEAST chip M3Max
apple should seperate their products for work and for gaming
Planning to buy the base M3 Pro with 512GB, $2499, that's all i can afford 😅
I have had 2 MacBooks go missing with Apple/UPS...very aggravating. In the same exact situation as you lol, got a silver 16' M3 Max. Still not sure if I should try to go for the Space Black. Silver looks great though.
They all really look and feel good; I got the Space Black and if really suits me, my condo, everything. Let's just hope i don't ding it :)
Instead of a book, look at the MOTF sit-stand laptop stand. It folds flat when in my laptop case and raises the display sitting at a table or hotel desk. It literally changed the way I use my computer. I find I use it all the time on my desk even though I have a dedicated aluminum laptop stand.
Where is your key light? Love your content all the time!
The only time my M1 Max fans turn on is when I play WoW on the built in display, otherwise it is literally always off
I have an M1 Max and still haven’t heard my fans. The warmest it’s ever gotten is forgot-I-made-a-cup-of-tea warm
What color you prefer?
i got 14in base m3 max as my first macbook.. so glad to see that you picked the base max model.. didnt see anybody else in youtube world talking about it.. may i ask for advice pls.. should i buy apple care? is it wise to have it?
YES!!! If you ever crack the screen or have anything major happen, you'll be so happy! : )
i can't imagine a scenario where i push my m3 max. its nuts.
Most expensive as well. But there is no competition either.
Why do you keep getting the extremely expensive one
Why not buying the 14 is you travel with it ?
Considering making the jump to this from my M1 Max Studio that I got at launch. The portability isn't crucial for me, BUT it would be a nice upgrade and probably the biggest driver is I'm afraid the trade-in value of the Studio will be nerfed to crap.
What's that thing called, where you put your Laptop inside so it can stand up on your desk?
Dock?
Reviewers talk about the price like its ok. Thats why they keep doing it. 3500 for a laptop is ridiculous.
Where is your keyboard from??
I had three shipments of the iPhone 15 that got stolen before I finally was able to get one. It was being delivered to a work address and I was sitting there at the delivery time. I believe the driver was just stealing them without making a real delivery attempt.
We have the identical mac, and I love the silver color!
temps? fan noise?!
I upgraded from M1 Max like you. Happy😂
Does this(16") heat up?
dissapointed on the "DUST GATE" for the M3
M3 pro or M1 max?
I really need some advice from you guys. Would you still buy a refurbished base m1pro right now for video editing. (still a student therefore budget is not that high) thanks to everyone who replies
Definitely! M1 pro is perfected and doesn't fall too behind the m2/m3. The only noticeable difference, at least for me, is the battery life as the m3 lasts a bit longer (by an hour or two), but the m1 pro still lasted me 12+ hours of medium use. LMK if you have any other questions!
@@hwansangeti Thank you for the answer!
I edited video today with an M1 Pro. It is not my main gig so I don't have the same data load and deadlines as a pro video editor, but the M1 Pro smoothly handles the video editing I do. Sure, the M3 would be better and somewhat faster, especially if you are going to pile on tracks and effects. But on a budget the M1 Pro is a solid option at the discount prices they go for now. Just get 16GB or more of unified memory to not starve the GPU, I have 32GB and would recommend that if it fits your budget.
Hey that's pretty cool sunny
I just ordered M3 Pro with upgraded 36gb and 1TB cost $3099 should I get the base M3 max with another $400 more. Please advise
Lol that's my current hesitation 😂
It depends what you do. I ended up taking the max 64gb 1tb as I’m gonna run some machine learning algorithms on it. But if it’s only to browse on safari, I would have picked the m3 pro :)
@@velociraptor75013 I started editing videos and will keep the machine for awhile. I think that is ok with M3 Pro I ordered save the $400
Thanks
Hey, does anyone (or the creator) have any suggestions for a dock where I can connect my MBP a monitor / keyboard mouse seamlessly so I can quickly unplug and use it alone / connected to everything ?
Some suggestions would be great.
I have been using an OWC Thunderbolt Dock for several years, first with my old Intel MacBook Pro and recently with my M1 Pro. It’s been great. I have two displays, keyboard and graphics tablet, lots of USB devices, and storage connected through it. I do like only needing to plug and unplug one Thunderbolt cable to the laptop for access to everything including power.
If I was buying today, I would also consider the CalDigit TS4 Thunderbolt dock, but it is even more expensive. So I am seeing if my current dock will hold out until the Thunderbolt 5 docks come out (which is not soon).