Switching to Linux.... 20 years after... switching to Linux
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Went with the rest of the herd and switch my main PC to Linux and moved most of my workloads over. This videos goes over my experience, the good and some of the gotchas.
#homelab #technology #linux
0:00 Intro
2:45 Installation
5:53 Productivity Apps
8:39 File Sharing
9:37 Development
9:55 Video Editing
12:52 Screen Recording
13:10 Photo Editing
14:01 Gaming
15:22 Sim Racing
16:03 Wrap up - Наука та технологія
"talking about 2025 as the year of Linux desktop which they've been saying every year I think" Me: totally (as a Linux user of 2 years)
Meanwhile you can remain secure on Linux without the use of TPM 2.0 Microsoft doesn't even care then fine time for the switch goodbye Microsucks and good riddens!
I don't think the _majority_ of people are going to jump ship, but Linux is definitely going to get a big surge in users once Win10 reaches EoL.
I've seen waaay too much disappointment in Win11 and corresponding curiosity about Linux for that not to be the case.
So, the fabled "Year of Linux"? Probably not.
But Linux could very well rival or even overtake MacOS by 2026 just from whatever percentage of Windows users decide to run Linux and stick with it. I believe that to be a reasonable prediction. If that happens, software companies like Adobe might actually start taking Linux support seriously, which will draw in more users. Then maybe we can finally get a modernized Discord release that uses Pipewire and handles screen recording properly under Wayland without relying on weird workarounds.
@@trajectoryunown Definitely not since 90% have no idea that Linux even exists but there definitely are more and more moving over which is pretty cool to see.
Mine started in 2017. Never used Windows again.
Couldn't even switch from borderless to fullscreen during a game on linux without it freezing. It's linux's inability to do basic functions without breaking that stop people. It's awful
I've been using it as my daily since 1999 and I love watching these types of videos. Great job. Obviously I think its worth it. It's been such a huge part of my life and its exciting to see the ecosystem continue to grow. If I can live in Linux for 25 years, I think most people can too. Even my 74 year old parents use linux now.
NSA can get bent what they're doing is illegal it's a government Operating System don't use Windows in 2024!
I once worked tech support for an internet company, and a 90 year old grandma called in wanting help setting up email, turns out shes running ubuntu, and only needed the pop/smtp info as she knew how to sort everything else herself. This was back in 2008-09.
Personally daily driving since about that time myself, and boy has life gotten easier :D
You gotta post videos
Totally agree.. its great to see how far it has come. And also agree that for many "mainstream" use cases it is a great option for parents/grandparents. One of the things I worry about with other products is the feature they will enable and data they will collect and most users won't notice because they just want a simple machine that works. For now it seems like linux is a safer bet in that regard.
If only the _audio_ codec isn't supported, you can just re-encode the audio alone without touching the video stream. Re-encoding audio takes next to no time. Hours of audio take, at worst, minutes.
As for image editing: there's also Krita*. Compared to GIMP and Photoshop, Krita is much, much closer to Photoshop, in terms of both features and UI/UX (there's even an extension for it that adds machine learning image generation, à la Photoshop's Firefly!)
*Yes, Krita is marketed as a tool for "digital art". No, it doesn't mean it's a bad general purpose image editor. Digital art includes _a lot_ if different techniques, so any good tool for digital art has to be capable of all types of image manipulations and then some.
Great points, thank you! And I will check out Krita.
@@SonoranTech-hf5hf About Krita..I am a graphic artist and used photoshop extensively. Since i started to draw i decided to try Krita and LOVED it. ITs really as close as you can get on a free app i think.
@@SonoranTech-hf5hf I think you'd be better off getting photoshop to work under WINE. Like come on, WINE exists for a reason.
@@nou712 Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.
In case you are not, have you actually tried doing it?
Unless you are willing to settle for a really outdated version, it's straight up impossible.
I tried everything from 2020-2024 and failed because the installer shows a blank white screen and freezes.
Anyways, almost everyone's way better off using Krita.
I really liked Photoshop for years, used it for thumbnails and game assets.
Switching to Krita a few months ago was such a huge improvement.
It's far more responsive, near instant open/close times, insanely good format support etc.
I am not gonna pretend to be an expert photo editor or say that Krita is just better than Photoshop for everything, but so far, all the things I've tried have just worked better in Krita.
@@_Enenra you can get a semi-recent version of photoshop to work, but not without issues all the same. If you search 'Photoshop for linux' you should find a result for a github page with a script installer to automate getting photoshop CC 2022 to work via wine. But again it's not issue free so krita may be better as it's natively supported
I've used Linux for 30+ years and started with Slackware 1.0 which came on 18 floppy discs. I now use Linux Mint as my daily driver and keep a spare drive for distro hopping. I have not found anything as smooth as Mint, it can be customized but works out of the box! If you still use Windows it may be time to try true freedom.
For the AAC audio issue in your video editing section: You can use FFMPEG with a shell script to setup an automatic video ingestion workflow. Something that grabs your files from your camera, moves them to your Synology NAS and then re-encodes them in the background. Also make sure you're re-encoding just the audio. Takes much less time.
Agree.. I think someone else pointed this out as well.. I was reencoding the whole thing which is adding a ton of time.
@@SonoranTech-hf5hf I think I read a comment about Handbrake also could do the audio part quite fast. I have not tried, but I find it quite fast at reeencoding video files between formats and creating smaller file sizes at same quality. Other than that, one can also create a Python script to do things in batch.
Ubuntu has a KDE version called Kubuntu. Regarding your issues with Fedora, it is generally not recommended to manually install drivers like that precisely because it can cause issues with updated kernels later. For Fedora, the easiest way to install Nvidia drivers is to first enable RPM Fusion, which will add the Nvidia drivers to your repositories, and just install the Nvidia drivers via the package manager. This way you don't have to worry about kernel updates breaking drivers in the future.
Thank you! Will check that out.
Exactly. And not only is it Ubuntu + KDE Plasma, in my opinion it is the best implementation of the Plasma desktop that you can find on Linux. Years with Kubuntu and it is wonderful.
The fact when you said linux is a games changes for old laptop instead of high cost laptop is very interesting
I started to used Mint after the recent recall stuff by Microsoft. Apparently a chunk of our concerns are potentially less serious with Recall? For example, you need Windows Hello every time you access Recall, but not in the beta version that was hacked. That said, still lots of concerns. Legit enjoy using Linux! Intending to stay
Yeah.. lot of concerns.. security appears to be an issue with msft right now and recall layered on top is not confidence inspiring.
@@SonoranTech-hf5hf apparently recall is tied directly to Windows Hello now. So that makes it much much more secure in terms of hacks…but it’s still windows. And done trust Microsoft with this info anyway?
Recall isn't even gonna be available to the majority of pcs for a long time seeing as it's only made for snapdragon currently. Yall are just drama queen's
I would think they would extend recall to any pc with a reasonable gpu at some point..
@@SonoranTech-hf5hf Security is one of my concerns with Linux. Mostly the lack of security products. I know people go on about how safe Linux is because its not Windows, but a did see a security channel video which mentioned that due to all the Linux web servers, there are almost as many viruses/malware targeting them as Windows ones. As someone barely Linux toe dipping and used to decades of AV it feels quite the vulnerability that pure bravado feels a bit foolhardy. Though I am probably just missing technical info. 🤣
I started to use Linux from 2007 to 2009, and then I switch to a mac from 2009 to 2016, and then I switch to a normal PC with Windows 8 until 2018, because I switch back to Linux with Fedora, and it was amazing, nowadays, I use Arch, because I'm too lazy to switch back Fedora.
Some distros don't handle the NVIDIA drivers very well. Some distros get political about "nonfree" software such as NV drivers, which just makes the installation painful.
Ubuntu is nice because it's a point release (not rolling, major parts of the system don't change within version).
I've been running CachyOS for two months now and pretty happy with it. Tried TuxedoOS before on my desktop as I have a Tuxedo Notebook for work but it didn't really go together with my Nvidia graphics card. CachyOS just worked out of the box. For certain tasks I just have a Windows VM on hand (the occasional OneNote shenanigans for work) but everything else just runs better on Linux.
If they just keep saying it's the year of the linux desktop eventually it'll happen right? In all seriousness i think it would actually be a terrible sign if they gave up. Motivation to rise up to the big guys is a major reason for the rapid progress of linux. I don't think it'll ever suddenly jump in popularity, but the rate it's going probably wont slow down. I give it two years to at least being as usable as windows, even if it doesn't achieve feature parity.
Agree to all you said, balanced opinions👍 I looked into linux in the early nineties, but what brought me back to actually using it was ubuntu in 2008. First time in my life my hardware was just supported oob. Thats what they perfected back then. And for my devices its still true. Fedora still doesnt support Macbook Air 2012 out of the box, Ubuntu since ever. Nowadays snap is a nightmare, but you can get rid of it. I am just testing how it holds up. In parallel i tested Debian, Fedora, Endeavour OS (like it😄) and a lot of others. They are all a little more in need of handcrafting. But you need a replacement once ubuntu takes even more wrong turns, so be prepared....
snap really is a pain.. this is my first experience with it and it has been disappointing
Nice to see a fellow sim racer, I switched my HTPC over to Linux when Windows 7 support ended. I had Linux experience from building my own NAS and eventually switched all my desktops over to Linux, except the Sim Rig of course :)
I went with Mint to start which is a great distro but nowadays run Debian with Cinnamon for the DE, except my HTPC which is still on Mint because it works and I'm a bit lazy to change it to Debian :)
I do run Windows in a VM on all my desktops just for MS Office.
I’ve been using Linux Mint, Ubuntu MATE, and Lubuntu on my machines. For office work, photo editing, and web productivity, they’re great. I will say that gaming on Linux Mint has been a mixed bag. While older games play well, newer ones keep giving me a message about “Direct3D” needing to be detected, even though I installed the driver to my internal GPU. Small complaint in the long run, as everything else has been awesome.
Direct3D is DirectX's rendering API, which is Windows exclusive. So, naturally, it doesn't exist on Linux natively and isn't going to be provided by any drivers. Stock Wine has a rudimentary implementation of the older APIs, but it's generally not suitable for playing the vast majority of games. What you want for those is DXVK (dx9,10,11) or VKD3D (dx12) which are projects that can translate d3d into Vulkan (naturally, the GPU has to support Vulkan).
If you're using Steam's Proton to play games, those would be included by default. If you're using wine manually, you'd have to install them yourself. The easiest way is to use Lutris and let it install and manage everything.
12:30 Are you sure this hasn't to do with Ubuntu's new tiling assistent manager extension? It sometimes makes my windows jump around oddly as well. You might want to try switching it off via the Extension Manager, or open up a Gnome Session (if you have it installed).
Could be, thanks for pointing that out, I will give it a look.
Yeah NVIDIA installation in fedora is a bit rough since it cannot legally give out drivers by default.
Yes there is an easy way to install nvidia drivers in fedora that isnt that bad but it is a bit out of the way compared to Ubuntu.
Kubuntu works on everything if you really want the KDE desktop. I tend to use that on one of my laptops...
I use Fedora and I must say one should never try fedora when switching from Windows or Mac. Anaconda installer is not newbie friendly. Try fedora when you have a bit intuition and know how to do little troubleshoot by yourself. Fedora itself is one of my favourite distributions besides KDE neon.
If you added some music in the background, the watchability of this video would grow by at least 50%
You think so? I was never sure if music added something to videos..
I dual booted Ubunto,Mint,Garuda , fedora , cachyos and still cannot control the brightness of my laptop I can change value but no effects happening thats the only thing keeping me away from switching to linux :/
me: wait its a mainstream trend? i thought it was just my youtube algorithm catering to show linux
the main issue with the adobe suite is that they made the installer self combust when running in wine, otherwise the whole app runs just perfectly fine. have been using linux mint for 4 years and even with the little problems i have, i dont even wanna install windows again. half of the time it wont even connect to my external screen when i boot my old windows install just to use it for some weird obsolote software that needs windows kernel *looking at samsung odin*
2025 is the year of the linux desktop
It is for me. I plan to switch to it before 2026 but will continue milking W10 for now. W11 is an abomination and I will never willingly use it.
It's not like Linux is without Photo editors, it actually have quite a few. But they are more a Lightroom alternative than a Photoshop alternative. There are apps like Darktable, RawTherapee, Showfoto, Ansel (Looks to be based on Darktable with lots of rewrites and new stuff), Art (looks to be based on RawTherapee but simpler), Pixelitor.
11:33 with the right ffmpeg parameters you can re-encode ONLY the audio portion of a video file. Which would only take a minute, if not seconds on a multi-gigabyte video file.
something like "ffmpeg -i bigvideo.mp4 -acodec mp3 -vcodec copy output.mp4"
I just tried with a 75 minutes long video and it took me about 25 seconds to convert from aac to mp3
it took me 5 seconds for the same 75 minutes video to convert from aac to flac, but the filesize is much bigger, I think the bottleneck was literally the write speed of my SSD
Thank you!
I already switched to Linux in 2017. But I don't game, code, develop or any of the things you do or others. Just e-mail and the world wide web.
Welcome home BTW!
i started with libre office , but i found that only office has better compatibility with microsoft office , so if you do run into any issues at any point ....
Thx, will check that out if the use cases get more complex.
I tried Ubuntu smooth Great install but I won't use snap so no go for me tried fedora 40 same bumpy start but runing OK at the moment using Open suse on destop Fedora on laptop
How are you finding OpenSuse? I realised the other day that for a top 10 distrowatch distro, most moving to and newbie linux videos rarely mention it let alone show it.
I have been using Linux for 24 years and I'm still learning something new. The problem with Linux adoption isn't Linux, it's the fact that most people associate the operating system with the computer. Nobody can say I just bought a Linux PC, but everyone buys Windows PCs, due of course, to OEM deals and market monopolies. That will not changed anytime soon and would probably take unprecedented anticompetition deliberations government would never undertake. That only leaves individuals to make a change and sure a rain storm is made up of individual drops of water, but this momentum will never match the power of the corporate behemoth that drives the market. Nevertheless, I make it my goal to increase a Linux awareness wherever and whenever I can.
I have migrated to Linux Mint on all my computers and am ready enjoying the change.
Good pick, your computers will run till the hardware fails now
@@HypeXesk
What is your use case for Mint? I am so close to switching but theres just a few games that i really want to play that cant run on linux
@@SharockoRAZR I am a gamer too, I found a setting in Steam that has allowed me to run almost every game I could in Windows. Go to the game in Steam, on the right side of the screen click on "Manage" or the gear icon. Then click on Properties and in the pop up window on the left side click on Compatibility and check the box to Force the use of a specific Steam Play compatibly tool. Then Proton will be used to make your windows game download and play on Linux.
I am a 3D printer too and have found all my slicers in Linux versions one way or another.
Cheers and happy Linux Gaming!!!!
@@SharockoRAZR Dualboot and keep going
I dabble with linux 20 years ago but it was buggy so I switched to window again. Recently I tried over 4 distro and some are still buggy as hell. It’s like 20 years and linux barely improved
Interesting.. definitely seems different for each person and distro. I would guess that none of the distros have the resources to do the breadth of testing across hardware combinations that a large company does, resulting in experiences like yours.
after living in linux for just over half a year, i came back to windows. while i can live in linux if windows were to disappear and i definitely will never buy an apple product, i find that there is no daily driver use case for linux that windows doesn't offer an equal or better experience.
after trying out several linux distros, i found the best linux distro lived in the operating system that i have always been using. WSL on windows is just the best linux experience available... you get everything good about linux, with the the stability and hardware support of windows.
everything good with linux includes privacy and control though. Not getting that with Windows at all
@@qwerty-password Yeah, pretty much the only reason I switched to Linux was because Windows 10 was pissing me off with the updates and then deleted some of my installed games/apps on 3 separate occasions. Using Windows at this point is like if you purchase a house, and then one day you're coming home from somewhere and there are people standing at the gate, not letting you in, saying they're doing maintenance inside. And when they finally go away, you go inside and find out that some of your possessions were stolen.
Lol, varjo. Regards from Finland
That was one expensive VR headset that was quickly deprecated... gulp.. I hope it doesn't break.
Just to add to your sim racing experience, sim racing works for me but it obviously depends on your hardware and what sims you want to play and all that. I might not have that super setup you have but I do sim racing just fine on Linux. I consider myself an entry level sim racer. In my case, using the Logitech G29 + Meta Quest 2 VR headset (using ALVR client) works fine on F1 23, Project Cars 2 and Asetto Corsa Competizione. iRacing is definitely off the table atm on Linux because they haven't enabled anticheat for it but it is supposed to run just fine. The devs just need to flip the switch.
That is great that you got sim racing working! And with VR too!
For me I would need the varjo software, simlab to run the wheel and then fanatec drivers. Maybe as a side project I could get it working, but it is way outside the realm of plug and play.
Linux Mint is tasty.
Please someone packages DaVinci Resolve as a Flatpak 😭😭😭
Yes!
Fedora is far better than Ubuntu- just turn on RPM Fusion.
30 days Linux challenge? More like 30 years!
I have dual booted for the last 17 ich years since Windows Vista came out. The only thing that is left on Windows partition now is some Games because they don't work in Linux either because of anti-cheat or just not compatible yet, and then Adobes Lightroom and Photoshop since one of my biggest hobby is photography. 17+ years i have wanted to get rid of Microsoft 😅
Vista was a rough one :) Wasn't that the version with the "extra" features you could pay for like video backgrounds? I paid for that and never got my waterfall background.
@@SonoranTech-hf5hf Yeah i think it was the Ultimate edition or something, it´s been to long :)
I appretiate your presentation of linux and your honesty. My personal linux story started in 2006 with ubuntu and i was hooked. I did my best then to run it as my main OS however, linux of the time was prone to hardware incompatability and it was not uncommon for updates to break things that my 13ish year old self could not fix. Combine that with very poor support for games of any kind even including some browser games i could never make a full clean break from windows. And i would switch back an dfourth many times over the years. I did however use linux as my main productivity OS during my time in college starting around 2013 using windows only for gaming. Around 2018 since i mainly used my pc for gaming i would ditch linux entirely and only run windows 10 for years. The exception to all of this has been on my home server pcs which mostly ran minecraft and file servers which were always some version of ubuntu server.
Fast foreward to 2022 and i decided to give linux another shot and after distro hopping a few times and finding i no longer like the feel of ubuntu desktop. Not a fan of newer gnome and snap packages. Also missed the AUR from playing woth Arch. I settled on manjaro with i3 window manager and it has been everything my 13 year old self could have ever wished for in 2007 it is snappy fast and lightweight, customisable beyond belief and with proton and steam i can run all the games i regularly play as well as discord and my other regularly used applications. I can honestly say that if it werent for Call of Dutys ridiculous anti cheat i would completely get rid of windows as linux has simply worked with minimal issues for going on 2 years now as a desktop OS.
The fact is that years ago when you wanted to be a linux user you had to dedicate a good majority of your time to making the operating system a hobby in itself and i feel that linux has moved to the point where you dont have to make the operating system your priority when using it. You can simply play your game or do whatever else you are going to do with the system and just forget youre using linux like you do with windows or osx.
Also for servers linux in my experience is unmatched i run a rack server with nextcloud, multiple minecraft servers, openvpn, ntfy, and a osx virtual machine running a bluebubbles server so that i can use imessage from my android phone and all that runs 24-7 with almost no issues caused by the os and wothout the ability of linux to be so configurable i dont think i could do that.
The tl;dr of my above book is that linux has finally gotten itself out of the way so you can just use your pc as a pc and not as a linux toy.
"The tl;dr of my above book is that linux has finally gotten itself out of the way so you can just use your pc as a pc and not as a linux toy."
Totally agree!
@@SonoranTech-hf5hfI will add that the beauty of Linux is the ability to choose how deep you'd like to go. For some simply using base Ubuntu with the snap store will cover all their bases for others arch seems more appealing with it's all in approach. I find myself in the middle and have learned I have somewhat odd preferences for UI which I would have never been able to explore on windows or osx.
My "hot take" though is I don't believe there will be a "year of the Linux desktop" the vast majority of people who even have contact with PCs are completely uninterested in the system itself. On top of that is I see far fewer people younger than me even using PCs at all. The majority of work can be done on tablets and phones now and a growing number of people younger than me only come into contact with PCs at work for their email.
The only way I see that year coming is if PC manufacturers started shipping majority Linux PCs which I don't think will happen. It's been tried in the past. I remember dell used to have an Ubuntu option on some PCs and it never caught on. The steam deck is unique in this but most people will not recognize the fact that it is in essence a PC they will see it more like a Nintendo Switch or any other handheld console; As it's own entity.
The people who care about operating system may start switching over though and that's as close as we'll get to a "year of the Linux desktop" but in reality that's a small portion of the market.
That's all ok with me though as it seems things will just keep getting better for the people who care.
Something I want to say is that... while saying every year is the year of the linux desktop might be a little over the top, it's still accurate. Linux Desktop improves by leaps and bounds every single year. Even just waiting 5 more years from any point in the timeline will give you a much better experience than the last time you used it.
Agree.. it will be interesting to look at usage growth over the next few years and see if there is an acceleration in adoption rates.
Im a normal average everyday dum dum with a GED and I have been using Linux as my main since slackware 1.0, the trick is don't expect linux to be windows.
I prefer cachyos or biglinux or linux mint or kubuntu , u shouldn't have all those problems
+1 for cachyos, amazing distro with amazing developers
nuhvidia?
I've been in and out of the Linux world for 20-ish years now, and I agree completely that every time there's a major paradigm shift at Microsoft people start saying 'This is the year of Linux!' It's not this time either. Linux isn't the 'unified' experience Windows is, and I don't think most people are willing to jump the hurdles they may run into to make it work for them. Some distributions are better than others, and I think poor installation routines turn more people away than any other single challenge. I'm not exactly a Linux newbie, but Fedora's installer absolutely borked my boot drive to the point I had to reinstall Linux and Windows to get both working again. I currently have Ubuntu 24.04 running on both my workstation and gaming PCs, and I have a Windows partition on the gaming machine as a Just In Case. Personally I'd advise anyone interested in trying Linux to get an alternate drive to experiment with and start on Ubuntu just for it's installer.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Agree, definitely not as unified but linux has come a long way!
I've been spending my last month or so trying Linux over the weekends. Usually installing getting frustrated, installing Windows, thinking and some light research then trying again. First 6hrs and 4 distros, then 8 hrs and 2 distros, then 24hrs on one. Throw in the NUC I purchased to test had an ARC gpu, Intel and Linux are friends right? Worked fine. . . on integrated. Never did manage to get it 'using' the ARC. But its now a Windows media PC running netflix for me. Sadly, the game it was to be a secondary for to play with overseas family keeps crashing. So back to fiddling with my gaming rig.
Decided I will try dual booting this time, since I don't want to buy yet another machine, and need to game in Windows and properly try Linux.
Though in last test, mouse cursor kept moving off center in maps and inventory screens. 4K monitor, not sure if scaling or mouse hardware accel to blame, since I turned off both and the glitch stopped.
Will try next weekend after new drive arrives. LOL.
Gaming is much better these days though. Not sure I am keen on flatpak and snap. The sandboxing seems to stop basic feature. Steam wouldn't see extra drives. Browsers never remembered last folders. Might try ubuntu this time. 😁
Avidemux 😁
Linux in general may not be the best, but with community support and more recognition from companies, it can certainly become the best-not in the world, but for us now.
Time to antitrust the NSA I'm done with this company screwing me over on a computer and I am not being baited this time to trash it I'm switching over to Garuda just to get away from Microsucks.
I've been using Linux since 2004. Was a Windows guy from win 95 to windows 7. Started using Mac in 2008. If you don't play AAA games Linux is a windows replacement. It does not come close to MacOS. My top Linux distros are Manjaro KDE, Zorin OS and Linux Mint. Maybe Ultramarine. These are FAR ahead of the rest.
3:15 Linux fans love to downplay things like this with phrases like "everything tends to work most of the time", but this is actually horrible and completely unacceptable for a desktop os. and if you listen to these Linux fans (take any youtuber) their day to day experiences are riddled with this bs.
Fedora 40 can be a real pain.. Which is why I think Nobara is better (Fedora 39 based). But, Pop Os is based on Ubuntu and if you need nvidia drivers there are Nobara, Pop and Ubuntu ones..
Nvidia is closed source so AMD cards work like a dream. The hardest part I've always found with Linux is getting is to work with your hardware..
Forget multiplayer games.. use Win10 fo those.
But with Proton developed by the guy that does Nobara. It works great with single player.
Productivity apps is where Linux can't compete. But thete is kdenlive, da vinci resolve, inkscape, etc...