Vikings DID Wear Horned Helmets?
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The way the horned helmet is seared into the human mind from an opera that nobody has actually watched proves that the image is powerful.
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Worth mentioning "Älgmannen" found in Birka which is a viking age grave where a set of antlers were found next to a mans head. I believe it was mostly used by shamans or druids and that these people were very valued in battle to keep up spirit and morale.
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"Two snakes coming together. Facing each other! But they're one."
"There's a price barbarian."
Vikings may not have been raiding with horned helmets, but they were part of the culture nevertheless, for a very long time across Europe, so there is validity to depicting them horned.
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Sure, but misconceptions are developed when there are movies, comics, games, or any other media that depict raiding vikings with horned helmets.
@@Magneticlaw well, i would not be surprised if chieftans hadd them
Unfortunately there is little documentation from this time in scandinavian history, but horned helmets were part of celtic culture, germanic tribes and some findings on the coast of Jylland Denmark. Probably used in ceremonies, but it was probabluy not part of the usual battle attire according to findings elsewhere.
Some people just take things at face value without doing any type of research they believe with the hearing TV or see and take it as fact. You're not asking any questions about it I'm glad that you brought this up because it became a short subject because of old operas and people wearing horn helmets pictures and books and now movies it was getting out of hand.
And, it’s because of these reasons I stay on my German pivot. I’m the only young bul of my kind tapped in there😅
I've always regarded these as visual representations of possession by the war god Odin, ie. the pagan equivalent of a halo.
I’m extremely happy to have found your channel. Finally someone knowledgeable to learn from. I hope you keep doing these videos. They are much appreciated. I would love to see a video on what a Lord of war was and if they were even real. Also if they were real why their mouths being dyed red
I love this channel, I’ve learnt so much from you. Thank you for the enormous amount of time and effort you put into it all for our benefit x
the truth about horned helmets is in a little village from germany the viking used horned helmets,
i know that because my mom told me that ,
she was a norwegian but unfortunately she pass away
It’s funny because I’ve heard yes and no. But, once I saw my Irish grandfather’s helmet with those wings I knew my rivals couldn’t say anything to me after that😂
I think they definitely used them for ritual purposes, but some of the representations of 'horns' look more like Jörmungandr to me at least. Great upload Thor! Thank you! 👍🏻😎
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Yes! I thought the same thing. Those so called horns look more like snakes. Which the snake was a symbol of wisdom.
I'd always imagined horned helmets were largely ceremonial.
Good coverage of "what can be said" in this format. Yes, we (various) still use these concepts, and I'll just add here is that it is the space between the horns that is most important. Stuff can happen there.
I am enjoying your presentations and style. You remind me much of the Cliff People side of my family, and so your sense of humor feels familiar. This world is much about moments that come and go.
The similarities between pre- Christian Nordic and pre-islamic Near Eastern art has always struck me. The Hittites are often depicted with horned headwear, and they even worshipped a horned God named Tarh, an exact parallel to Thor.
The parallels cultures have across the world pre-modern religions are amazing. Imo, it proves there is a source of inspiration and creation. Spiritual entity or happy accidents, we all came from the same ooze and we are all going back to it. ❤️
The Hittites were an Indo-European people, and therefore from common ancestry to Norse and many other European pagans, and their religions will come from the same common route about 5,000 years ago. Whether the name Tarh and Thor are cognate, or just appear similar by coincidence, however, I don’t know
@@tilda3316 The invading Sea Peoples/Pirates wore horned helmets. They were hired by Pharaoh Ramses/Moses to be the law judges and they stayed by the sea shore, like Dan. They were used at their provinces worldwide.. All the coasts of North and south Europe.
Fascinating video! Thank you so much for offering such deep insights to Nordic/Germanic culture and history. Between you and Metatron, I have learned so much more than I ever did in school.
4:15 I thought that was Madonna's brazier when it first came up. :)
Great info!
I was nearly KOed by a reindeer once...true story.
When I was in Norway in 1989 at some Sami cultural tourist center I got to meet & interact with a reindeer named Rudolph. It was a misty day out & among other things we were allowed to pet Rudolph. I had been sitting & it was time to go inside the lavvu (a Sami tent very similar to a teepee). My right leg had fallen asleep & I couldn't get up. Then I saw Ruldoph was beginning to shimmy off similar to a dog. But reindeer shimmy in sections. First the rump, then lower back, upper back/shoulders then head.
I'd managed to get on my left foot & right knee when Ruldoph shook his head & the upper fork of his fuzzy antler struck me on my forehead...and I saw stars! 😵😵💫
When my vision came back a couple seconds later I could see Rudolph's antlers wiggling like a giant tuning fork! 😂
I'm not sure if seeing those stars counted as enlightenment but I certainly will never forget it!
It occurred at Sapmi Park in Karasjok, Norway
Did he have a red nose?
@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger sadly no...he was just a generic knock off
Love those torslunda plates!!!! Actually used them and analyse them in my paper on the great heathen army's profile. Your sources are impecable as always. By the way the "horn" can be interpreted as raven's heads as you said or even serpent heads whose tail you can see near the neck of the warrior. But I obviously much prefer the ravens theory.
Haha, jeg var lige ved at sige at det ikke er horn på amuletten, men Huginn og muninn, men så sagde du det :-) fed video!
Just adding that many depictions of the green man has the horn’s. Satars too. Could any tie to Loki
i live about a half hour walk from finglesham. the village sign is actually a replica of the buckle gilt in gold. impressive to look at. unfortunately i've not seen the actual buckle yet but i plan to. i always get giddy when finglesham gets a mention.
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I love how the music kicks in when you stark talking about the spiritual stuff.
I find the Finglesham man fascinating, as it wqs found in the core Jutish area of East Kent, and represents strong connections between the Jutes (Geats) and the scandinavians over the sea.
Weren't Jutes also known as Danes ?
The Geats were from southern Sweden,not Denmark
@@AzhidaReminiec9999 the Jutes were later incorporated into denmark just before the viking age, with the Danes originating around Zealand.
I am referring to a hypothesis that some Geats/Goths migrated to Jutland in the early centuries AD. This is supported by a lot of modern day scandinavian historians, although it is less discussed among Anglophone historians:
"Today's Jylland was pronounced Jutland (like many dialects still do with the double l) and I heard from a linguist that the J had more like a G-sound initially. So if you think about it, the difference between Götaland, Gotland and (G)Jutland is very small.. In any case, Bede is considered a good historical source among historians, and he wrote about three tribes, Angles, Saxons and Jutes, who settled in England. Of course the Frisians seem to have played a part as well."
The Jutes seemed to have a material culture of a mix of south scandinavian and also Frankish/Gaulish aspects. The latter is proabably due to the kingdom of Kent being close to Frankia and possibly being a Frankish domain, but also bares a similarity to the Visigoths practicing Gaullish/Frankish ironworking.
There are some other facts that point to at least some kind of connection between the Jutes and Geats. The Jutes in Kent had a 3 class system like the northmen, and their currency bares scandinavian similarities.
"The suffix -wara is the genitive plural of the Old English noun waru, which means "those that care for, watch, guard, protect, or defend" and was used as an endonym by Goths[e], Geats [f] and Jutes. [g] The West Germanic peoples who encountered these foreign, martial North Germanic people[21] called them Yte." This is on wikepedia but I haven't verified its integrity.
The Jutes are still quite an unknown tribe, and so it is still hard to place their origins. We don't even know their language, but I would guess it would be somewhere on the spectrum between north and west germanic
So...Odin was actually a Gunnery Sergeant. _Makes perfect sense to me !!!_
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Awesome topic dude!! I've got this wild multi cultural helmet. It's based off the norse helmet but with German cheek guards, samurai neck on the back and Athenic wings instead of horns. Working on a fiberglass bullet proof berserk shield as well
Are there any websites that sell replicas of historical Viking artifacts??? (Gods, Goddesses, Mjolnirs, jewelry, etc)
Horned helmets were very Celtic. The Celts held sway over a large swathe of the Germanic territory and traded all through the area. It makes sense that horned helmets - a sign of Celtic nobility - would still be considered an important and high-profile item in their culture as well.
@@meditativewanderer251 Is nathair thu gun eanchainn! RUITH! Hiberno-Albans would rock ya furry convention
@@meditativewanderer251 No. It isn't. They are related but had both settled into distinct religious and cultural differences. Germanic peoples were not Celtic.
@@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524 To be fair, both Celtic and Germanic peoples are of Indo-European origin. Go back far enough in time, and they all chewed the exact same dirt.
@@Holmesson They are both Indo-European but Celtic and Germanic are wildly different. They are culturally relative but only distantly. Germanic culture arose separate from the Celts. They shared few if any gods, had wildly different cultural standards, and their languages were almost entirely unrelated. To claim that the Celts are Germanic would be akin to declaring a lion a leopard. Both are cats but lions aren't leopards.
@@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524 I'm more than well aware of the differences separating them. Thanks.
I could listen to you all day.
Viking boats was designed after a swan. Thats why they could glide easy on the water surface
The oseberg tapestry has a horned helmet shown.
I get what you're saying, but, at least from what i've heard from japanese historians, is that the top knot above a samurai's head and all that "weird" hairstyle is for using the helmet, so it doesn't get too hot while they're wearing it. So it would serve as a little cushion for the helmet and the shaved head. If i remember correctly they started doing some hairstyle similar to aristocrats, probably THEY (the aristocrats) were using for the reasons you're talking about, mythical, the chakra and shit like that, but samurais were different, they were pretty much for practical reasons.
If there is only one surviving example of a complete viking helmet, why is everyone so sure they did not wear horned helms? Is it possible that people in the 1800's were more aware of what vikings wore?
wearing horned helmets during battle is pretty bad for the wearer, the enemy could easy grab these, wich isn´t very good
@@samuelwalli2677 other cultures wore horns or other adornments on their helmets which would also be easy to grab
When I was younger, I read where the horns were from the bull they would kill in a ceremony.
But they never wore them on their helmet. Probably used them as mead and ale horns though! Ha. I have some that I use for that purpose.
So many words I always wondered about in my pc computer game named Titan Quest. The Norse expansion Ragnorok har so many. History and Myth intertwined.
Hugin and Munin is one such phrase mentioned.
Oseberg tapestry has depictions as well !
A Jacob's Ladder for spirit 🤔
I've got questions about kings/queens in crowns now
There's a very old giant chalk cut figure down the road from me on hill in Wilmington, England. He holds two staffs and legend has it that he had two horns on his head but these were removed by the Victorians because they felt it was a reference to the devil. Very reminiscent of the figures shown early in the video.
Of course, the Celtic helmets were pointed, like later WW1 German helmets, which was an ergonomic design making it less likely the helmet would shatter when struck, but it would also sometimes have tuft of horsehair on the tip as well.
Maybe this, indeed, did have a religious meaning involving these chakra focusing practices.
I'm experiencing confusion. The Celts also have a horned God named Koranos,
The mirroring of stags in.nature probably holds a lot of merit. Used for battle each summer, taken off after.
*realizes halfway thru video that hair is currently in a topknot*
Yep spiritual antenna makes sense to me.
Another good upload brother.
Are any of those depictions at the beginning from clearly within the Viking age? Or are they all from the Vendel period, a little earlier?
One of your best. Very illuminating.
oooh you had my believes confirmed when you started mentioning those from the bronze age... this video is brilliant! mange hilsner fra danmark! Fred til! Til árs ok friðar ! skål broder!
there is a recurring motif of birds on helmets, usually these are in pairs, it is a reference to Odin, so the figures represent Odin himself or berserkers of Odin;
mostly they are vendel era (pre viking)
examples 1:40 2:10 2:18
Torslunda plates image (2:18) here you can see the tails of the birds, often missinterpret as cow ears;
around 3:00 he self give some hint about birds on helmets;
thanks for sharing your thoughts about the spiritual concepts, and that you present those as a possibility, and not as a dogma/doctrine
Your presence indicates a much deeper connection to our Viking forefathers.
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Mycenean Greeks and various tribes of the sea people are depicted in the bronze age wearing horn helmets and battle. It is also a fact that Thracian Warriors war helmets with rather large horns on them in battles during the Roman era.
Completely valid to go back to bronze age examples because it seems very clear that there's a common cultural link shared between older western European cultures. Quite common to see imagery of Gauls who bordered with Germanics wearing horned helmets, most notable example being the Carnutes(literally Horned Ones in Gallic). The Gundestrup cauldron which depicts the only known image of the god Cernunnos(Horned One) was found in Denmark oddly enough. The only natural conclusion to draw is that it has importance in spirituality.
Didn't know that about the reindeer antlers.
Whether they had them on themselves or not they still left bad assery near almost everywhere they went yeah
above the crown chakra it is called the sakral chakra, its funcion is basckly in some beliefes are channeling down divine energies, others believes it is chaneling down ethirial energies or makrokosmical energies, in other beliefes they say it is a connection point to our higer self wich can be channeled down and coordinating it to the crown chakra and through the crown to the third eye, hence forth the abilities for foresight and other psychonetic ablieties visions etc. it is actualy a very powerful chakra and very few can master it even in thiese days. According to other beliefe systems when it comes to initiations the "master" who initiate its apprentice is opening up the sakral chakra and thourgh that chakra the apprentice recieves the inititaed state wich effects, the Mind, the body, the thought, and the energie frequency vibration level of the apprentice by enhancing the individual growth in more depth in the spiritual world and understandings. It is also true that with the sakral chakra the person can make conatct with the gods (well in some bieleief systems at least) some said the horned viking helms were symbolcly ment that those who wore them were in fact were connected to their higer self or with the gods. interesting right? so many point of views :)
Love your expert knowledge on your videos, but have a slightly off topic question. What calendar did the Vikings use (or Nordic people prior to the Viking Age)? It couldn't have been the xtian calendar, right?
Is it just me or is he like 3% more jacked each upload 😂💪
Love ur videos man, greetings from Denmark! ✌
Very well done. Great video. Thank you.
Thumbnail isn't viking....
It's cernunnos
I just love your videos. Thank you.
I never knew this. Thank you.
Bro your hair has a moustache.
(lol just kidding)
The pop culture image of Viking Age Norsemen going into battle wearing horned helmets and wielding double-headed battle-axes is *still* wrong though; at least when applied to Viking Age Norsemen. Believe it or not, Renaissance era *Persian* warriors actually *did* do so on rare occasions.
Nice to see some celtic horned things. There are a bunch of them that look like headdress or even like balloons or something. Ever see those?
The horns are kind of exclusive accessory because of the ram. Wasn't the ram revered in the Norse pantheon? Going back to Mesopotamia, the Indus Valley and such, the original gods, the Annunaki, wore horned helmets. There are similarities between the Annunaki and all polytheism mythologies.
Please give me your thoughts.
I don’t remember the source, but I think mongolian shamans also wore horns on their heads while raising morale to warriors. Need to check the source but wanted to share
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Bovarians tribe wore bull horned animal helmet which makes me put the question: are Bavarians descendants of Bovarian tribe?! So its bavarian or bovarian?!
By the way I’m not sure if you deliberately missed this one or not but there’s also the believe in the third eye which is at the middle of your forehead and it gives you insight to psychic ability and also gives you insight to predicting and knowing what the future can be many people have use this especially those that are of the eastern beliefs like buddhist and others that you even talked about but you did not mention about the third eye chakra and yeah there is a crown chakra that is used by many other other beliefs I for one and one that does believe in use the third eye chakra and crown chakra and many other chakras that I believe in because I am clairvoyant Claire sentient and I am an empath and many other things that I could mention that I am able to do will not here👍
yea you may be onto something, because now since i have ben meditating and doing blots and offerings or if im in a weird mood its like a spiral vortex through the top of my head, its like tingly ticklish swirly energy, definitely energy, then at the same time other parts of me a few other so-called chakras have same feelings......im a friggin conduit for energy lol. Id have to say horned helmets for spiritual rituals makes sense, i believe we enter, exit the body from the top of our heads in my experience:)
Good video.
I enjoyed the UFC reference!
Sven Magnus Øen Carlsen is a Norwegian chess grandmaster who is the reigning five-time World Chess Champion
Maybe this is just an imitation of the power, for example, Bull, Ox has?
You know I would be very surprised 🤨 if they didn't use horned head dress for rituals, it's a powerful symbol, and horn and antler were every day items then, however the artifacts seem to be very specific in design , the raven, odd shaped tubes, some even look a bit serpent in shape, I guess there is much more to know about this subject, however, you can bett your bottom dollar it was surounded by great taboo, like folklore of the old man o the woods so much bad luck could be if any one just went around with a couple of horns on ya hat! 🤪
Horns would catch in the branches of trees or in the rigging of ships.
@@stevekern7235 well yes that's true, but my guess is it was like a chain saw, if you did know what you were playing with it could be dam right dangerous, who knows what power is locked in ancient cultures ,
Great respect to you , your channel is top quality , and well sourced.
This is a perfect example of the victor victoria problem as described by Eric Weinstein.
Ancient pagan anglo saxons wore horned helmets to for a ritual just look at the symbol of the people on top of the forhead of the sutton hoo helmet
Makes sense, thank you
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Usually the spiritual leaders didn't fight and everyone fighting would generally leave the leader of spiritual purposes alone in battle... the horns or crowns would be for leadership... look up the Anunnaki helmets... the Germanic tribes come from them...
yeah i was thinking what kind of stupid thing did you did to your hair my Scandinavian bro
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You have a mindset to see and see throw it's makes perfect sense I love that's you look at the wide views to see it's you must do whet is done like so
Did the horns rise in the Mediterranean or the Baltic, and did they die in cornwall? I'm Y haplogroup A14 and have a tiny slice of Balari so I'm quite curious about the horned connection, though there really aren't any experts out there with any different information or theories than my own. I think it most likely just goes back to the great white stag and generally all Animist beliefs so unfortunately no one's going to claim this one culturally since people the world over have been imitating horned creatures since the dawn of man.
Those look less like horned helmets as an ornate headdress or 2 snakes. Even the figurines the helmets are way to large to be horns. Even the figurines with the big horns or the long wiry horns don’t look actually like horns. It’s like putting on a conical hat and saying it’s a horn.
The horns from deer have been used for both baking and medicine.
It's looking more like the "Vikings" either were or became some of the "Sea People" that are talked about during the bronze age collapse. We now know they were very heavily involved in trade in the middle East & Western Asia and it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't been doing it for a lot longer than people assume.
Well, the Vikings are in the wrong time period for the Sea Peoples and the Bronze Age Collapse by almost 2,000 years. It could be potentially feasible that some very early Germanic people from Nothern Europe could have been involved, though I am not sure whether the Germanic language or culture had formed by then, and if they had, they would have been a long way from the Mediterranean. But I suppose you never know.
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Wouldn't the Horned Helmet have been worn by Alaric ( Goths) ,Thor?
The horns are to depict leadership and spiritual purposes...
Horned helmets would have been REALLY unpractical in battle and cows were only for the rich, so it surely was not the usual attire for raiding. Also, long hair can be dragged or used against them in battle. No deep meaning, just practical approach to survival.
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There it is, right over my head on the horn. Zap! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_generator
I'm sure the ancient Norse had these New Age concepts of cosmic energy. Odin is laughing at you.
Although Hinduism is often mentioned by many as a way to fill in the gaps of germanic beliefs, we should consider distance, time, era, comunication, contact, interpretations. Then, we have to consider the other influences that Hindu religion got over there and how it got "separated" by, once again, time, contact, etc.
For example: Chakras are not that old, although the word is attested in early Upanishads, it wasn't the same concept as we know today.
About the Odin interpretation, it seems to be quite possible so far, we haven't found the old horned helmets you mentioned during the Viking Age, but considering the figuriines and plate depictions, it still holds a meaning conected to frenzy or, as we speculate nowdays, to Odin. But we (then again) have to consider that the meaning of horned helmets from the Bronze Age it might not be the same as in the Viking Age
The Vikings weared never Horned Helmets in Battles at all.
Maybe during some rituals.
Christian halo or light around the heads of saints in art?
Vikings are Persian Ayrain. 14 tribe's of Ayrains.
This makes a lot of sense. That's where I feel my anger come from, like a spirit or a tingling above my head. I have a friend who was able to see these things. She could tell who in the bar was going to act up by the spirits above curtain people's head. Pretty fascinating.
that cool I wanna know what else is going on with that plack they got to armadillos sucking face with a person
I think that Odin is fully misunderstood he's associated with war and batle but that war and batle is not the war going and concuring and Killin others is the war and batle within yourself to concur yourself the war with yourself is the hardest battle
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Very insightful video. Skål💀🍻
Astart inspired by Druid faith weqring a Green hat with a crystal in forehead of hat