Watching this as an atheist who's never been to church was interesting. Even though I don't believe in god, I respect these women who chose to follow their faith. I never knew the joining process is like a wedding and I think it's kinda beautiful. I hope they all found peace or whatever they were seeking. It must have been hard to forsake your life for the life in servitude to god.
As an atheist, I find this so disturbing. The concept of how a lot of nuns live is against human nature. It's possible to care for others and dedicate your life to it without falling into extreme religious delusions
It's sad. It's a mental illness. She's been convinced that this is all ok and normal. Even war ends eventually....most prison sentences have an ending too. Even killers can go free after 20 years. But she'll never get that. She's imprisoned by not just people, but the whole entire system. It's sick.
It’s not a mental illness that she wants to give her life to God, serve him and be disciplined. Some people have a calling to be a nun, it’s nothing to be ashamed of. Nuns are kind and powerful women, I’m happy for her.
Being raised by Nuns in my younger days, I honestly wanted to become a Nun. I seen all the hard work and dedication to serving God that these Women Selflessly Gave. At 15 - 16 years old, I remember Sister Anita telling me, Jane , Your Life Is Out In The World & I Often Thought About Sister's Words. Today in 2023 & As A Christian Woman, I Have Total Love & Respect For All Nuns..Sister Anita Was Right..That My Life Was Given As A Gift... To Live My Life Out In The World. Rest In Peace Sister & Thankyou ❣️
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
The hurt in the Mom's eyes. Especially when she has to ask her to hurry to a life that doesn't include her in it. So heartbreaking. It's like a loss even if it isn't.
In reality, the monastic life does include the family. Just because they can't see her every week until at least her simple profession (depending on the order) doesn't mean no contact at all. They can write letters.
@@annainspain5176 I understand that, but as a mother I would feel the loss of their presence, touch and voice. Their presence at family gatherings, the ability to go visit. Especially in the case of the specific order the girl was joining. I understand why people feel called to do it but as a mother it would be sad even if I was proud.
Her mum is foolish, her talking about how she bases her life around god to avoid dealing with the fact that she’s not happy with her life. Although I suppose they all are, so I shouldn’t really feel sorry for one & not the other.
@@oki__ Your lack of understanding of their beliefs and faith, as well as of monastic vocation, doesn't make those who value that faith and choose to follow a vocation somehow "wrong" or "unhappy with their life." Disagreement with a total stranger's life choices doesn't make them wrong.
It is sad that anyone critical misses the big picture. The woman wants to spend her life serving others. While the Catholic Church or any other religion isn't perfect the woman want to humble herself and make a life helping to improve the human condition. And I think that is simply awesome
So they decide to help by joining an international crime organization that covers for child rapists, forced child labor, murder of hundreds of indigenous children and hasn't been able to demonstrate that the product they peddle is real? They are just part of the pr wing of the gang
What help do people do by being closed off society and just praying? They don't do charitable work, they don't contribute to taxes, do they even produce vegetable for the surrounding area?
@@slickmcCool lets not forget the mass graves of babies and slave work houses for unwed mothers in Ireland. I can't understand why anyone would want to be associated with Catholicism.
As a child, I claimed to be an atheist but I would eagerly read the lives of saints and show a passion fot mysticism. Then as a young woman, I was torn between partying, dating, drinking etc. (God knows I had fun!) and going to church six times a week, attending night adoration, studying theology, doing retreats, worshiping with all my heart. I had friends from both worlds and they could not believe that I belonged in either. In the end I got married and we now have a son. There is a part of me that still resonates with the need for peace, divine love and contemplation. But I guess my ministry lies elsewhere: being a wife, a mother and teacher.
I mean, I see no issue with either. I feel like everyone's supposed to live their lives to the fullest (with no harm to others of course) and it sounds like you did just that. Very well rounded & I hope you're happy 🤗
That was beautifully worded. I am an atheist myself, though brought up Christian and having once considered Judaism. I can quite readily understand making the choice to become a nun, despite my atheism. I think what we want deep in our hearts is a meaningful life and you can give meaning to life in many ways. You have found meaning in marriage, parenting and teaching. I think that it's amazing that you have developed the self-awareness that that's the best thing you can do to be of service to the world. It was wonderful reading your comment.
I think this is beautiful. In todays society I find it hard to see what I am being called to and I am so happy that you have found peace in your life and have found our calling.
Our Carmel has the internet and so once in a while I look for something interesting I can share with those who are in discernment with our community. Each monastery decides whether they will allow internet or newspapers or not. We allow both.
This is documentary is very real. It doesn’t lean one way or the other. It just shows it how it is in entering religious life. That’s why I wanted to comment on it.
Anyone can serve and help others, most people just aren't mentally unwell enough to believe in living that way and in religion that strongly. It's so sad
When I was 13 I so badly wanted to become a nun. My grandmother thought it would be terrible and too strict. She had me watch The Nun’s Story starring Audrey Hepburn to try and deter me… it made me fall in love with the idea even more. The self discipline and routines and sacrifice to everyone you give is admirable. I wish I had tried to go through that journey… The peace they must feel within. Helping others and leaving behind that self centered life everyone else lives sounds wonderful. Being there for those in need at the level nuns do is selfless and inspiring. This documentary is lovely.🙏🏼
Why can't you do that without joining a convent? E.g. Go live in an orphanage. You'd be doing more good because you spend 100% of your time serving others, not eight hours a day praying like in convents.
The nuns are serving God and serving others 100% of their time... Praying is serving others... Bringing others needs before God may not be immediately a physical help, it often starts a chain reaction from God down to those in need. Praying is asking God to provide what we need or want. It is talking with Him as you would talk to your dad or father (the father who is or was on earth). God listens to all who pray to him and he will answer. When we pray we are often asking for physical or practical answers or solutions to problems we face every day or to help us in times of trouble. If praying, whether for 1 minute or for eight hours a day, did not have a purpose then God would not have told us to pray "at all times, in every situation". There are many references to prayer in the bible. Blessings from South Eastern Australia, Dot
Self discipline and sacrifice is not necessarily a Christian trait. Our Savior has paid the penalty in our place, as a substitutionary atonement. No amount of self disciple or sacrifice on our part will save any of us. It seems kind of romantic to try to be ascetic and deprive / deny / oneself, but that's not the Christian message of the Atonement.
I'm sure God wouldn't mind. if you spent those hours doing practical things to help those less fortunate, even if it meant less time spent sitting alone just praying. Would probably prefer it, in fact. Or you could pray while you're helping at a homeless shelter, etc. God is everywhere, is He not? Jesus wasn't sitting around cloisteered counting rosary beads and chatting to God. He was out getting stuff done.@@dotcassilles1488
I went into the Benedictine Order at 50, the maximum age. It's harder when you're older. I lasted one year. I think the thing that is so hard is coming to the realization that your sisters are getting older and older and your community is dying around you. In the 14 years since I have left, I have gone to the cemetery several times. The last time I counted 48 headstones. It's crushing. It's not a peaches and cream life. It is a real life of courage. I think when you're younger you're more adaptable to other people's personalities, and you're able to grow with your Sisters.
@@Greylock21 If you said a Divine Mercy prayer for me based on my post, Thank you and God Bless you! The Divine Mercy Chaplet is one of my favorite devotions, and I know that it is true and that it works.
The church doesn't care for its nuns the way they do priests. My father worked on an enormous, state-of-the-art retirement facility for retired priests. I met a nun 10 or so years later, that had been asked to leave her convent as the young nuns take care of the elderly, and there weren't enough young nuns anymore. After devoting her life to the church, they kicked her out with no home, money, or marketable skills, at over 70 years old. It's unconscionable what they do to these women, and it's hardly the least of their crimes.
@@scarletbitch866 I don't think ALL nuns are treated this way, so beware of generalization. My great aunt, who was a nun of the Franciscan order, just passed away 3 years ago. She was VERY well taken care of in the end & she had dementia. She was in a nursing home just for nuns & that had been her vocation, as well; geriatrics. She was not 'kicked out'. Please beware of generalizing. Some priests don't fare so well these days either. There aren't 'enough of them to go aroundr'. Often they get pulled out of retirement in their 80s to go back into parish life - they are old & often ill. We had one that had been pulled out of retirement 2xs & he ended up passing away shortly after the 2nd retirement. He was ill, while he was with us & had memory troubles. But that is the 'risk' you take. That is why it is considered a SACRIFICE. Luckily, there is a rise in callings. We now have 3 young priests, all under the age of 40 & 2 seminarians in their 20s in our parish. My daughter just went on a retreat & over 200 young men & 100 young ladies came forward with intentions to enter vocations. I think there will be a rise in younger ones entering, to help the aging ones. The Lord provides.
@@tiiatuuli339 What is the hogus bogus gibberish trash that you wrote that betrays the severe damage that you suffer from in your prefrontal cortex to the extent that you hardly have a vegetative mind to live with that is why you are writing laughable foolishness. You can never be happy after leaving The Powerful Ever Living God Jesus Christ who came to die for us on the cross and Rose again from the dead by the Power of His Divinity, unless you are a filthy fool who cannot distinguish between light and darkness. You are called the son of perdition and to eternal perdition are you called. Faith in Christ is everyone, and as a fool like you have left the Light of Christ there are now thousands who come to Faith in Christ throughout the world daily. Come to The Powerful Ever Living God Jesus Christ and He will forgive you the years of lunacy, ignorance, stupidity, blindness & satanism of unbelief & Blasphemy, sin, filth and foolishness; and He will raise you from the spiritual death that you languish in as He raised Lazarus from the dead by the Power of His Divinity. Otherwise, you will die as miserably as you have lived and you will go to languish in hell for all eternity with your father satan as you deserve for your blasphemies and foolishness. What a miserable waste of human existence you are. How pathetic
I am so sad for them. It's obvious on their face what's actually going on but they're in complete mental denial. Religion and belief is the most pervasive mental illness that were all in denial of.
Catherine is a mature young woman. She is 29. She accepts the community's decision despite her disappointment. The younger girl of 23 is more flighty despite the fact that she is sure of her vocation. Her decision is a surprise - she is back for a break with her family. And she has a lovely supportive family. She is giving up a lot to become a nun. It hits home after 6 months.
i dont think Klara is more flighty. I think its a HUGH order at 23 to go into a cloistered order. It's so hard to give up your family at any age. I dont know if I could do what she did and I'm more than twice her age and not keen on the remaining members of my family but its a humongous commitment for anyone to undertake.
60 Minutes / Mr. Simon / did a feature on a Greek cloistered order, years ago, and I disagreed w/ one of their practices of guarding the old bones of previously deceased members. To me, that's not Christian faith, but Goth. And, the cloistered order meant one of their elders didn't go home for the burial of his father, which I thought was selfish on his part, and not considerate of his family. Plus the order accomodated Nazi soldiers on their island during WW 2. I hope they tried to convert the Nazis instead of just letting them waltz on into their island.
I had a strong feeling the young girl would struggle without family from when she was crying in her room, and when he brother wished for her return.Interesting documentary on the whole.I used to want to be a nun as teenager but I know I couldn't cope with complete silence and no family.
yeah, I thought that that order wasn’t right for her as a person. She’s very sociable and warm and so she’d be able to do more to serve God if she would go out to help the poor and evangelize like the other nuns in this video.
i always have a great admiration for nuns. i studied in a school ran by salesian sisters, stayed there for 12 years. the nuns would play volleyball with us during recess, would sit with us while we were doing our crochet or cross-stitch projects during lunch breaks and just talk about life and God. those were the best years of my life. God bless you all, sisters!
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
My best friend from University joined a religious order, but not an enclosed one. She can still see her friends and family whenever she wants, has a mobile phone etc., and works as a university chaplain. There are different types of convents!
Dominican. Her particular community are conservative in many ways-traditional habits, quite conservative theologically-but they’re most definitely not enclosed.
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
I have two siblings who are nuns. Our aunt is also a nun and the founder of her own congregation. I grew up around nuns. The work they do with no salary at all is amazing. We have a school and a non-government foundation which includes an orphanage that has been running for more or less 15yrs now. My younger sister is still in her mid-20s and now serves as the admin of the orphanage. She organizes everything from budgeting, managing the staff and looking for donors since our orphanage depends majorly on donors. My other sister helps manage our school which is also a foundation which means it barely has any profit. The work they do for the community is on top of their prayer life and their school life since they’re still finishing university too. Being a nun does isolate you from your family but for my two siblings, we can still see them and communicate with them but most of the time they’re really busy. There is a misconception that nuns are just locked up in the monastery doing nothing. Well it depends on the type of congregation you’re in. There is a congregation that’s focused on prayer and there’s one that’s focused on mission work and many others.
I still think about being a nun, & I am 43, married & two teen daughters. If something happened to my husband I would consider it. I am named after my great aunt who was a nun. She was the head administrator of St. Josheph's Hospital in Syracuse NY & served her vocation in Hawaii - working with the Leper colony. Very admirable women. We did see her quite often - maybe once a month, but you are right they are TOO BUSY!
I belong to the parish of Corpus Christi Leeds, I found the video amazing. The Sisters of Renewal have convent in our parish, are fully involved in parish life, welcoming and friendly.
Ever since I was a young man I have thought - if there is a God then that must be the most central impetus of my life. These young women have listened to that mystery. God bless them. It took me a bit longer; I was ordained a priest in my 50s. I’ve never been so content and full of joy. God is good!
I respect it. As a non-religious but spiritual person, I know we all come here for a reason, to grow in our own ways. And so to give your life COMPLETELY to God this way, IS a huge sacrifice..... because you're supposed to be living your life for YOU/YOUR GROWTH/EXPERIENCE. So this is almost like, a spiritual "fast track" or level up in growth (think when a honor roll A+ student in middle school gets "leveled up" to high school... that type of deal) so on a deep level, yes they are aiming to help others but ALSO to fast track or speed up their soul's growth and/or connect directly with God by devoting their OWN lives..... this is a huge sacrifice which is actually really beautiful & rare. 🙏💜💜💜💜
Same here. I can even kind of understand making such a choice, even though I'm an atheist. I once had a chat with a nun in Greece, who was still in her trial year. We had an amazing conversation about life choices, meaning and relationships.
@TBS13🇵🇭 What don’t you understand about that statement? Spirituality can and often does exist outside of organized faith. But hey if you find that funny, then God bless you 🙏🏼
Yes, as a spiritual but non-religious person as well, I view this as a expedited way of enlightenment and ultimately connecting with G-d daily. It's amazing really.
“My children , It is not easy to be a nun. It is not a life of refuge from the world It is a life of sacrifice. It is in a way , a life against nature The sacrifices that are required of us , are only bearable if we make them with love Just as in the world , we can do impossible things with a glad heart for a loved one , So it is with us. We can endure greater sacrifice for the object of our love is Our Lord , Jesus Christ “ -Edith Evans as Mother Emmanuel “The Nun’s Story “
@@elainegoolsby9902 it’s a quote from a film but it’s true. My family have known our local monastery of Carmelite nuns since the late 1940’s when my mom hesitantly rang their bell. The nuns have enriched our lives through their spiritual advice and prayers. Can’t repay them
My sister was in the convent for exactly one month and she was able to come out without any negative consequences. I, on the other hand, had married the year before and quickly realized that it was a mistake however, according to the Catholic Church I was stuck in that marriage. Of course, years later we got a divorce and ultimately my husband filed for an annulment which he was able to procure at a cost. 😊
honestly, i'm impressed by anyone choosing this kind of lifestyle, be it a christian, muslim, buddhist or pagan monk. devoting your entire self to whatever you believe in is difficult and very selfless. kudos to them
In Islam they don't have monks or nuns. People still devote themselves to God of course but Muslims are expected to be mothers, fathers, and be part of their family & community. Just you might like to know that 😊
I honestly feel that Catherine doesn’t *need* to be a nun, she’s simply yearning for a life with more meaning and fulfilment. And Clara I think will go on to be a fantastic mother- the way she is with her parents and siblings demonstrates that. God calls us in many, many different ways ❤
I love how people who don’t even know these women personally are telling them what they should do with their lives . You losers need to shut up and just let them do what they think is right and what they want to do .
Cloistered would be difficult but I could definitely see myself being one of the Sisters of The Poor (or Missionary Sisters). They provide service to the poor, the elderly including housing and care, homes for the extremely sick, shelters, soup kitchens, and assist with children (teachers, camps, food, family assistance/guidance).
You can try volunteering for charity organisations who help poor people. I know that lay people can also help Missionary sisters (Mother Theresa and others).
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
It was so nice to hear the young student say that she knows nuns are usually cheerful and that it's food if God can do that. So she thinks it's nice but not for her. That's just such a mature and kind and inclusive answer.
It's so easy to idealize this way of life until you've entered it and have spent a few years. It can be extremely difficult and not always fulfilling. I wish them the best!
@@chris1960 That's an interesting observation! I spend most of my life as an atheist (because I agree that there's no evidence) and I became a catholic because I started to think of religion not as something that is true or false in a philosophical sense, but as a deeply gratifying practise. As a former protestant, I have the feeling that a lot of protestantism is solely based on this philosophical approach, and I totally agree with you - there is something embarrasing about this kind of philosophy. I think theology depends a lot on personal experience; you either find the evidence in you heart or you won't find it at all.
Its not their abilty either, but Gods work within them! Dont ne discouraged, just wish it honestly and watch yourself Being changed as well in relationship with God! ❤
@@panda-rama2646 With or without religion I believe it is human nature to procreate and to be intimate with someone. I am hard pressed to believe the majority of these nuns are actually happy. on another note Jesus is a polygamist if what nuns believe is true… That is they claim to all marry Jesus.
Like many girls, I always wanted to be a nun. My problem was that my family was irrelegious and HATED Catholics. By the time I sorted out that I wanted to be Christian, much less Catholic, I was in a HINDU CONVENT that emphasized a peaceful meditative life and had read many books about the Catholic saints. It hit me like a thunderbolt. But I hit several snags, first when I tried to get baptized at a huge church in Beverly Hills. The nun pulled me out of the class and said it would be YEARS before they would agree to BAPTIZE me because I had been divorced from another non-Christian. The nun was mistaken, But I did not know how to fix it and wandered away, as I didn't know a single CHRISTIAN, much less a Catholic. Eventually became Episcopalian and THEY baptized me. YEARS later, I finally entered the church when I had to retire early due to disability and now I live at home like a hermit, of sorts. I love the Catholic church but get wistful when I think about how different things could have been. But God's will be done.
I am sorry that you couldn't become a nun but I want to emphasize that the most important thing is to have your own relationship with Jesus Christ. You can read the Bible on your own and pray in the holy spirit will guide you in all things
Religious institutions don't care about you. They are made up by men who want to control people. Like politicians. End of story. I'm sorry that they hurt you when all you wanted to do was pray, but they stood in your way.
I don't know what stopping u from being a nun...I'm starting to distance myself away from that label because of the many misconception. I'll just call myself "a girl that's under oath". Ppl always are shocked when I would tell them I'm a "nun". I don't fall in the stero types. I work a regular job, I don't live in a temple, I don't always cover my head or wear the cross. I do however always were a dress or skirt n I don't curse but who r ppl to judge. "Nuns and monks" come from all walks of life. The title ain't a substitute for perfect. Do they masturbate or still have sex? Who cares it not our business. Their human like everybody else.
@Willywonka65623 cloistered nuns don't leave the convent premises. As the video discussed, a cloistered nun may only see her family and friends (at very rare intervals) behind the locked front gate of the nunnery. Nuns who are not cloistered may do chores and ministering in the world (I have some Franciscan nuns in my neighborhood, and I see them doing grocery runs at trader Joe's all the time.) So a cloistered nun must stay within the nunnery, and a regular nun may so things among "normies".
The big contrast they all seem to see is between a life of boys, partying, consumerism and eventual motherhood, OR being a nun. There are so many other options for your life that don't revolve around men, possessions or god.
I badly want to become a nun, I am no at catholic, although I went to a catholic school. I asked God to send me a sign if he is present, and he did. I believe that God is calling me to become one, but I also want to go to MIT, because an engineer. My heart is wanting to become a nun but also go to MIT… I wish God could give me the strength to become a nun
In my belief we are all sent to world as humans with the flesh and blood body of ours, with its obstacles. God sent us his word to show us what to do with our lives, what is best for us, he gave us responsiblities for ourselves and for the people around us. In this world we are living as communities and society need different people for different jobs for it to function. Everyone have different roles in the society, some of us may become doctors, engineers or nuns, helping each other in our own way. One can be a believer and an engineer, although he/she may not have the same knowledge as the people who devoted themselves to God. I see the ones who devoted themselves as a help for us to get closer to the knowledge of God, as they spent more time on it they can teach us, show us sources etc. I think the question is where do you see yourself functioning the best. As an engineer you can still follow the word of God, speak the God's words to others if they want to hear and maybe be one of the steps of others journey. Your skills as an engineer is valuable to people. This world is not just about us but about all humanity.
What about passionately serving God while also being an engineer? You don't have to become a nun or not serve God at all. God uses ordinary Christians to accomplish his will as well!
I relate to the young women this documentary. I feel a calling towards volunteering work and I am happy living a simple life and feel complete helping others.
We are best when we are serving others & NOT serving ourselves or expecting others to serve US. it brings out the best in us & that ripple effect goes out into humanity!
🌹I love silence and being alone with God. I live alone except for my two cats and little dog. I have friends and family, but Jesus is my everything. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@elainegoolsby9902 hi how are yu I hope yur well ie I too love my own company ie do you believe nuns mastrubate it's a question I have often heard asked
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
There is a difference between being religious...and dedicating your entire life to Jesus...even more different when you join a cloister. I hope these girls realize this difference, evaluate where they belong...and THEN make their final decision! God bless us all!⚘
What an informative program as a Christian, I love my faith but I couldn’t be away from family like these ladies. I respect their decision and I hope they are fulfilled.
@@leontinehillenaar423I went to a school with nuns "only" 15 years ago. 1 was nice. But we feared the others way more than our teachers (except the nice one, they worked in the school but weren't teachers). 😂
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
This is such an extreme way of living. I’m sure not all nunneries are this extreme. It’s very culty. To cut you off from your family? That’s horrendous…
The convent the girl entered was definitely of the more extreme variety, to be totally cloistered (isolated) from the world is not how all convents work. Most Sisters (this documentary didn't explain the difference between sisters and nuns) certainly do not live cloistered lives. It's also unusual for somebody discerning religious life to go directly into a cloistered convent as the first port of call. In Catholicism (and the few Protestant groups that still have religious orders) there's a big variation in how different religious orders live. Some have access to the Internet , are able to contact family members and are proactive in the local community. It's also different for Orthodox nuns who aren't represented here either
@@CherryDreamer96 that's a really good point. I wish they differentiated between them. I don't think its admirable to cut yourself off from the world forever. Sounds like a cult; hiding and running away from life's inevitable challenges. I'm not against religion. But i respect the one's that actually volunteer and make change in the community.
@@Liitebulb if you think abstaining from sex, living in poverty, asking for permission to do everything for the rest of your life, not using phones or having access to social media is an “easy career” then you’re crazy.
The sisters in the community near me do get to hug their mothers! One of the first 'tasks' I was asked to perform was to entertain a man and his wife as they didn't speak French, they were the parents of one of our Australian sisters and were staying in accommodation at the convent to spend some time with their daughter. They were then going to Germany to spend time with their son who was in a seminary, training to become a priest. Yes, there are 'issues', naturally, when their children were young they had expected them to get married, have children of their own, give their parents grandchildren, and realising that was not going to happen does create stresses. Life can be like that, some people have children who go in different directions that spoil their aspirations. Being a nun is certainly not for everyone, but the nuns I mix with have a greater family, have peace and are free from many of the stresses that we all put ourselves through. Imagine being free of having to worry about what to wear every day!
They were also the most awful people on earth. The way they abused children and young single mothers. There are 800 babies they buried in a septic tank in Tuam Ireland, thrown away like rubbish. That is the truth it was uncovered by a local historian.
Wow. So admirable as a Christian woman striving for God this way. I remember wanting to be a nun as a kid but more also. Now, I am so much more and some of the things show me God IS The Meme Lord. 😆
As as an atheist I have to say that I hold great respect for those who choose to follow their faith in peace, including those who take the vows of priesthood, sisterhood and brotherhood. It is tough to see them go through what they do, but it is necessary in order to understand the realities of the choices people make and the sacrifices that come with them.
They believe their work lies wholly in prayer. They pray for the world, receive letters and even phone calls from all kinds of people who ask for them to pray on their behalf. Depends on if you believe in the power of prayer, I suppose
🌹Cloistered nuns live in Community, and best of all Jesus is with them. They have plenty to do, as well as to.e praying. Prayer is so important. Just think, they are praying for you, and for the whole world. You may not have the time, or want to pray for long periods of time daily, but they pray because they want to, and they are are joyful in this important work. Didn't Jesus frequently go off by Himself to pray? 🙏
I understand cloistered nuns, but surely it would be better to join uncloistered nuns, who still dedicte their lives to God but help in the community, and you can see their habits around the place?
Thanks a lot for this awesome movie.for now,I got covid positive and I wondered I couldn't sleep no matter what to do so I decided to wore sunglasses while watching this inspiring movie and it makes me more emotional for it was my dream when I was young to become a nun but then I failed..praying for my daughter though its impossible because she's stubborn for i am an OFW for 2decades and I'm not with them to guide them but we never know what lies her future for God always surprises us.
The smallest order seem to be exclusionary. What about postulancy for the blonde girl? I thought (as a non-Catholic) that being a novice and/or entering the postulancy is a way to help women know for sure whether God is truly calling them to a lifetime commitment. If I were her, I would explore other communities.
Clara should definitely try an Abby that isn't strictly cloistered. It's insane that she would never ever step out their doors again or really see her family for the rest of her life.
@@noorrougelewis6704 These nuns could make such a difference in the World, if they actually knew what was going on out here! Being Cloistered helps nobody, just repetitiously reciting meaningless pre- learnt Prayers . I think a lot of little girls think they want to be a Nun. I know I did and I'm not Catholic ( I'd watched the Sound of Music 😂😂) In reality , being Cloistered forever is no life., in just my opinion. I HAVE grown up believing Strongly in Jesus, though, and my Faith is so important in my life. So, I guess , we all experience that Faith in different ways, and hope these nuns are at Peace and happy in their choice
Except you aren’t “throwing everything away” and the kind of sacrifices required depends on the order/convent. A couple of weeks ago, my mother and i were at Joann (fabrics and crafting), we saw a nun there.
Teachers, Nurses & Nuns are all a special type of person 💕🥰❣️They have a special calling❣️ I was raised by parents that were BOTH teachers & I learned very early on that it takes a VERY special person to be that person 💕❣️ Thank you to ALL OF YOU🥰💕❣️ God Bless You ✝️💕❣️
When I considered entering the convent, not wearing simple foundation was a definite and surprising stumbling block 😂 we don’t realize how attached we are to certain vanities until…
1 Timothy 4 King James Version 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
This was super interesting, as a former Catholic. My question, though, is why didn't Clara join an apostolic order so she could see her family and friends and be in the community? She looked like she'd have gotten along with the sisters who were out being of service to the community. Being cloistered was just too much for her, as it probably is the vast majority of people.
1 hour a year? Sounds like a human rights violation. Another deeply bizarre dilemma is the fact that removing her from contact with her friends and family would deprive them of emotional support which would normally be central to Christian ethics.
But it’s a life freely chosen. Most people today can’t comprehend sacrifice. It’s interesting that the abbey is flourishing, even as many of the active orders who have abandoned the habit are dying out.
It's not a human rights violation. Nobody is forced or kept against their will. For some, it will be a life they love, and they have their sisters within the community for both friends and family. It just depends on what is best for each individual.
@@FabricofTime indeed, as a point of law it is not a breach of any such Article where the third party involved is not a State, notwithstanding the fact that it would be hard to imagine even a repressive regime subjecting its subjects to the abandonment of their loved ones. Suffice to say, it remains the case that the principles of Christian prayer can exist in a modern society without recourse to restrict anyones freedom to remain in touch with family and loved ones. Indeed, it could also be said that to require an individual to abandon contact with loved ones is in itself contrary to acceptable standards of behaviour and christian morality where some might also view the abandonment of family and loved ones as being an act of cruel selfishness where the beliefs of an individual should never be at cost of inflicting pain and suffering upon others where it might otherwise be avoided without prejudice to the act of prayer in itself - as any impartial person would be the first to agree
“If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple” - Luke 14:26 Monks and nuns take this and other sayings of Jesus regarding abandoning lands and property in a more literal way. They sacrifice the legitimate pleasures of life: having one’s own wealth and using it, being able to be their own master, and enjoying the pleasures of sexuality and having a family for God. Also, not all orders are the same. Contemplative orders whose focus is on seclusion and prayer will naturally give less contact to the outside world than active orders whose focus is charitable work. Generally also, less time is given to novices because they need to adjust to the more secluded life of a nun. Older and more trusted nuns are given a bit more leeway since they have attained a higher level of discipline. On the downside, the higher you are, the harder it is to leave in good standing. Novices who have taken no vows can leave easily. Those who have taken temporary vows can wait till they expire. Those who take solemn or permanent vows must appeal to Rome for them to be dispensed from the vows.
What happens if a woman realizes after 10 or 20 years that it's not this path isn't for her? I genuinely want to know. Getting the call from God and seriously sticking to the path of a nun. Yet, deciding to reverse must be a weird and difficult decision. Question about Clara and Catherine, what happens if the nunnery they speak or try out with is not the right one. Could they go on to another one to see if she can enter another one?
You can leave anytime. I know nuns and priest that have. I did also know a nun that changed different orders. Remember your serving one God Just the orders are different and their style of service. Some orders service via just praying, some education, some healthcare, some do missionary work in serving the poor.
You can leave, nobody is held against their will. You certainly wouldn't want to spend every day of your life living with somebody who didn't want to be there ... People leaving religious life I more common than you may think. Some people leave to join different orders, Some leave and go on to marry, and some may leave and then return when they are older
You can leave, just Like in marriage, but its a free choice in a first place and you are giving final od eternal vows after 5 or so years of discernment...si leaving after that happened would never be pleasing to God, just Like it is never pleasing to divorce after you have vowed before God - in good and evil, till death separates us. God takes that seriously, unfortunately People too often do not. We forget the part "in hard Times" and that times will always come for us to show that we meant for real. With Gods help its possible!
I dare say I don't know where we'd all be without the pure and giving prayers who give themselves totally to Christ...Thank You sisters.. And God bless you all !...❤
A lot of nuns don’t do nothing like there were a lot of nuns in my church who helped teach kids who struggled math my principal was a nun not all nuns pray 24/7 there is still stuff they can do
My friend became a nun by accident. She was supposed to be going on a hen party to Alicante and filled in the wrong form at passport control. She didn't even realise for a week because, as she said "we were supposed to be doing a themed escape room and meditation retreat so it all made sense at first." Anyway, she decided to stay there and is now know as Sister Extravaganza.
I would 100% do this if I believed in God. No rent. No bills. No real adulting. What could be better than helping people while being completely taken care of?
Have to agree with you there A bit pointless really if God made the world why on earth can't they enjoy it. I would feel like it's a sin living like this
@@alexdyter8237I am a Christian and I actually think you've made a good point. Besides, the early followers of Jesus didn't live like this and they were the ones who knew Jesus. Instead, they went throughout the world and talked about Jesus and didn't portent work. And they certainly enjoyed spending time with their families although I'm sure they had to give up some of that as they were traveling. God never instructed us to not enjoy the world, he made it specifically for humans with us in mind.
@somethinggood9267 Churches do the exact same thing they make it seem like you can't live a life without a church, which is simply not true, then they make up random rules what you should and shouldn't do
I wonder how many nuns & priests join for this reason. To escape poverty, social anxiety, or - especially in the case of women who joined very closed orders of nuns - fear of men. To avoid being assaulted (something we have to take subconscious steps to avoid evvery day) or escape social pressures to marry & have kids. Asexual or lesbian women.
I considered this at one time in my life. I went to a Catholic college and spent some time with Franciscan Nuns and stayed at the Mother House for a few nights. I quickly realized that was not the life for me. So much so, that I am now agnostic.
You sound just like me. I went to a Catholic college. Went to visit the Franciscan sisters in the the States and then Italy. I loved it. Felt a huge belonging and thought a calling. But after spending time came to realize it wasn't for me. It can be a beautiful life of service for some.
I wanted to be a nun and prayed and fasted and prayed some more. My answer was not to be a nun. My ministry is being a wife and mother. I’m so happy that God lead me to understand that. I’m overjoyed that there are women who are still making commitment to the church and holy life.
I think it is disrespectful that her family can only visit 2x a year and no phone calls, that is not fair on the family, especially the parents that brought her into the world and sacrificed to raise her.
I never understood the people, who talk about how there has to be more to life and lock themselves inside a single ideology surrounded by physical walls and other people who are going through the same existential crisis as you are. It almost seem like an extreme form incompetence.
I had a garden when I was growing up. One day, I harvested the garden and put it all away in the refrigerator. My father came home from work, and said First Fruits must go to the convent across our church and the parish priest. My father called our priest and the convent, saying we're coming and delivering First Fruits.
Honestly, I though about it when I was about 12...reviewing my life now, I think I should have done it. I have great memories, but I past my life being hurt. Sometimes, I think it would have been a better life to be protected from this wild, understandble life we are living right now.
I have to say i think it is extremly interesting to watch them. I can relate in some points of living a life in a close community as a soldier and choosing an unusual path of life. But it’s not the same. Very good educational and interesting video.
Does anyone know what happened to these two girls? I wonder if Clara ever went back and if Catherine was able to join her order the next year? If this was 2011 and it’s been 13 years, I’m really curious to see where life took them after this documentary xx
They don't show what life is like as a nun, though. They talked about two people who were considering joining, but very little about actual monastic life.
If I was to be a nun, it would be like the ones in Call the midwife, not shut off from society but right in their middle, and my family still being in the picture
Convents aren't prisons, and the nuns aren't prisoners. The cloistered sisters are devoted to prayer and practical life. The missionary sisters are in the world. I love and respect people, men and women, who dedicate themselves to God in that singular way. But there are people who dedicate themselves to simple lives of service without taking vows except to God.
Thank you all for your service. You radiate light to your families and others. Your sacrifice is so wonderful and powerful. I take great encouragement from seeing such beauty and I praise God. Lord bless you and keep you always make his face shine upon yiu be gracious to you and give you his peace
The person who gives up the joys and pleasures of the world and becomes a monk is a very strong person. I cried at Clara’s strength when she spoke with joy.
On the outside, I can’t help but think - what do your have to offer anyone but yourself and your own spiritual enhancement. It takes away a lot of purpose to life, but that’s just me.
That would be interesting to know, it was good that the Convent gave her indefinite leave. They may have sensed her doubts or her struggle to be away from her family. She has a vibrant personality that might just be too big for the quiet life.
Its a great commitment to become a nun. But to leave all your family and friends is not a good thing. Even Jesus himself interacted with his family and his friends his disciples were his friends. One of his best friends died, Lazarus, and yet Jesus brought him back to life. I personally dont think Jesus will is to leave family and friends.
Watching this as an atheist who's never been to church was interesting. Even though I don't believe in god, I respect these women who chose to follow their faith. I never knew the joining process is like a wedding and I think it's kinda beautiful. I hope they all found peace or whatever they were seeking. It must have been hard to forsake your life for the life in servitude to god.
I totally agree with your words!
As an atheist, I find this so disturbing. The concept of how a lot of nuns live is against human nature. It's possible to care for others and dedicate your life to it without falling into extreme religious delusions
It's sad. It's a mental illness. She's been convinced that this is all ok and normal. Even war ends eventually....most prison sentences have an ending too. Even killers can go free after 20 years. But she'll never get that. She's imprisoned by not just people, but the whole entire system. It's sick.
It’s not a mental illness that she wants to give her life to God, serve him and be disciplined. Some people have a calling to be a nun, it’s nothing to be ashamed of. Nuns are kind and powerful women, I’m happy for her.
@@margaretmanchester543 There have been horrible nuns as well. Just google child abuse and nuns in schools. There are good ones too ofc.
Being raised by Nuns in my younger days, I honestly wanted to become a Nun. I seen all the hard work and dedication to serving God that these Women Selflessly Gave. At 15 - 16 years old, I remember Sister Anita telling me, Jane , Your Life Is Out In The World & I Often Thought About Sister's Words. Today in 2023 & As A Christian Woman, I Have Total Love & Respect For All Nuns..Sister Anita Was Right..That My Life Was Given As A Gift... To Live My Life Out In The World.
Rest In Peace Sister & Thankyou ❣️
Sister Anita has my prayers this AM as do you, at 16 being told this, must have felt crushing!
That’s beautiful ❤
I got told the same at 10 and with hind sight the nun that told me was right
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
@@annapaulineogrady9184 the original word meat meant food
The hurt in the Mom's eyes. Especially when she has to ask her to hurry to a life that doesn't include her in it. So heartbreaking. It's like a loss even if it isn't.
In reality, the monastic life does include the family. Just because they can't see her every week until at least her simple profession (depending on the order) doesn't mean no contact at all. They can write letters.
@@annainspain5176 I understand that, but as a mother I would feel the loss of their presence, touch and voice. Their presence at family gatherings, the ability to go visit. Especially in the case of the specific order the girl was joining. I understand why people feel called to do it but as a mother it would be sad even if I was proud.
@@annainspain5176wow, letters. I’m sure it’ll be a real close and touching relationship 🤨
Her mum is foolish, her talking about how she bases her life around god to avoid dealing with the fact that she’s not happy with her life.
Although I suppose they all are, so I shouldn’t really feel sorry for one & not the other.
@@oki__ Your lack of understanding of their beliefs and faith, as well as of monastic vocation, doesn't make those who value that faith and choose to follow a vocation somehow "wrong" or "unhappy with their life." Disagreement with a total stranger's life choices doesn't make them wrong.
It is sad that anyone critical misses the big picture. The woman wants to spend her life serving others. While the Catholic Church or any other religion isn't perfect the woman want to humble herself and make a life helping to improve the human condition. And I think that is simply awesome
So they decide to help by joining an international crime organization that covers for child rapists, forced child labor, murder of hundreds of indigenous children and hasn't been able to demonstrate that the product they peddle is real? They are just part of the pr wing of the gang
What help do people do by being closed off society and just praying? They don't do charitable work, they don't contribute to taxes, do they even produce vegetable for the surrounding area?
Cult!
@@slickmcCool lets not forget the mass graves of babies and slave work houses for unwed mothers in Ireland. I can't understand why anyone would want to be associated with Catholicism.
@@arrrgonot7801 u are so foolish, catholic will grow more , irrespective of ur love or hate.
As a child, I claimed to be an atheist but I would eagerly read the lives of saints and show a passion fot mysticism. Then as a young woman, I was torn between partying, dating, drinking etc. (God knows I had fun!) and going to church six times a week, attending night adoration, studying theology, doing retreats, worshiping with all my heart. I had friends from both worlds and they could not believe that I belonged in either. In the end I got married and we now have a son. There is a part of me that still resonates with the need for peace, divine love and contemplation. But I guess my ministry lies elsewhere: being a wife, a mother and teacher.
I mean, I see no issue with either. I feel like everyone's supposed to live their lives to the fullest (with no harm to others of course) and it sounds like you did just that. Very well rounded & I hope you're happy 🤗
That was beautifully worded.
I am an atheist myself, though brought up Christian and having once considered Judaism. I can quite readily understand making the choice to become a nun, despite my atheism. I think what we want deep in our hearts is a meaningful life and you can give meaning to life in many ways. You have found meaning in marriage, parenting and teaching. I think that it's amazing that you have developed the self-awareness that that's the best thing you can do to be of service to the world. It was wonderful reading your comment.
I think this is beautiful. In todays society I find it hard to see what I am being called to and I am so happy that you have found peace in your life and have found our calling.
@@diedertspijkerboer The Lord is very real I have had many encounters and countless others too hopefully one day you'll return to him
Hello, Eleanor how are you doing today?
As a cloistered nun of 15 years I can tell you it is a beautiful life if you’re really called to it. This is a nice documentary.
You get to watch UA-cam videos as nun?
Our Carmel has the internet and so once in a while I look for something interesting I can share with those who are in discernment with our community. Each monastery decides whether they will allow internet or newspapers or not. We allow both.
This is documentary is very real. It doesn’t lean one way or the other. It just shows it how it is in entering religious life. That’s why I wanted to comment on it.
What you say is crucial... you have to know you're called to it, by God.
If you don’t mind me asking do you have mass with other people of the community close to the convent?
Man! The dedication these women make is simply incredible. They are doing what many can’t and won’t.
I wish I could have been given this life when younger.
@@marymarth7298 I respect anyone who takes the calling to the priesthood or sisterhood.
There's a reason why most can't and won't, society would crumble if even 5% of people lived a life of dedicating their life to an unknown entity.
Anyone can serve and help others, most people just aren't mentally unwell enough to believe in living that way and in religion that strongly. It's so sad
@@marymarth7298 Same here, I wish my calling had been taken seriously
When I was 13 I so badly wanted to become a nun. My grandmother thought it would be terrible and too strict. She had me watch The Nun’s Story starring Audrey Hepburn to try and deter me… it made me fall in love with the idea even more. The self discipline and routines and sacrifice to everyone you give is admirable. I wish I had tried to go through that journey… The peace they must feel within. Helping others and leaving behind that self centered life everyone else lives sounds wonderful. Being there for those in need at the level nuns do is selfless and inspiring. This documentary is lovely.🙏🏼
Why can't you do that without joining a convent? E.g. Go live in an orphanage. You'd be doing more good because you spend 100% of your time serving others, not eight hours a day praying like in convents.
The nuns are serving God and serving others 100% of their time...
Praying is serving others... Bringing others needs before God may not be immediately a physical help, it often starts a chain reaction from God down to those in need. Praying is asking God to provide what we need or want. It is talking with Him as you would talk to your dad or father (the father who is or was on earth). God listens to all who pray to him and he will answer. When we pray we are often asking for physical or practical answers or solutions to problems we face every day or to help us in times of trouble.
If praying, whether for 1 minute or for eight hours a day, did not have a purpose then God would not have told us to pray "at all times, in every situation". There are many references to prayer in the bible.
Blessings from South Eastern Australia, Dot
She should have shown you pray to the devil
Self discipline and sacrifice is not necessarily a Christian trait. Our Savior has paid the penalty in our place, as a substitutionary atonement. No amount of self disciple or sacrifice on our part will save any of us. It seems kind of romantic to try to be ascetic and deprive / deny / oneself, but that's not the Christian message of the Atonement.
I'm sure God wouldn't mind. if you spent those hours doing practical things to help those less fortunate, even if it meant less time spent sitting alone just praying. Would probably prefer it, in fact. Or you could pray while you're helping at a homeless shelter, etc. God is everywhere, is He not? Jesus wasn't sitting around cloisteered counting rosary beads and chatting to God. He was out getting stuff done.@@dotcassilles1488
I went into the Benedictine Order at 50, the maximum age. It's harder when you're older. I lasted one year. I think the thing that is so hard is coming to the realization that your sisters are getting older and older and your community is dying around you. In the 14 years since I have left, I have gone to the cemetery several times. The last time I counted 48 headstones. It's crushing. It's not a peaches and cream life. It is a real life of courage. I think when you're younger you're more adaptable to other people's personalities, and you're able to grow with your Sisters.
It is a true life of Sacrifice
Ave Maria ❤Jesus I Trust in You
@@Greylock21 If you said a Divine Mercy prayer for me based on my post, Thank you and God Bless you! The Divine Mercy Chaplet is one of my favorite devotions, and I know that it is true and that it works.
The church doesn't care for its nuns the way they do priests. My father worked on an enormous, state-of-the-art retirement facility for retired priests.
I met a nun 10 or so years later, that had been asked to leave her convent as the young nuns take care of the elderly, and there weren't enough young nuns anymore. After devoting her life to the church, they kicked her out with no home, money, or marketable skills, at over 70 years old.
It's unconscionable what they do to these women, and it's hardly the least of their crimes.
@@scarletbitch866 I don't think ALL nuns are treated this way, so beware of generalization. My great aunt, who was a nun of the Franciscan order, just passed away 3 years ago. She was VERY well taken care of in the end & she had dementia. She was in a nursing home just for nuns & that had been her vocation, as well; geriatrics. She was not 'kicked out'. Please beware of generalizing. Some priests don't fare so well these days either. There aren't 'enough of them to go aroundr'. Often they get pulled out of retirement in their 80s to go back into parish life - they are old & often ill. We had one that had been pulled out of retirement 2xs & he ended up passing away shortly after the 2nd retirement. He was ill, while he was with us & had memory troubles. But that is the 'risk' you take. That is why it is considered a SACRIFICE. Luckily, there is a rise in callings. We now have 3 young priests, all under the age of 40 & 2 seminarians in their 20s in our parish. My daughter just went on a retreat & over 200 young men & 100 young ladies came forward with intentions to enter vocations. I think there will be a rise in younger ones entering, to help the aging ones. The Lord provides.
These young women are really brave. I hope they find happiness, no matter what they choose.
Of course they have happiness in Our Lord and God Jesus Christ. Wake up
@@vahrheit9996 I didnt, I´m much hapier after I left my religion. We are all different. Not all fits to all.
@@tiiatuuli339 What is the hogus bogus gibberish trash that you wrote that betrays the severe damage that you suffer from in your prefrontal cortex to the extent that you hardly have a vegetative mind to live with that is why you are writing laughable foolishness. You can never be happy after leaving The Powerful Ever Living God Jesus Christ who came to die for us on the cross and Rose again from the dead by the Power of His Divinity, unless you are a filthy fool who cannot distinguish between light and darkness. You are called the son of perdition and to eternal perdition are you called. Faith in Christ is everyone, and as a fool like you have left the Light of Christ there are now thousands who come to Faith in Christ throughout the world daily. Come to The Powerful Ever Living God Jesus Christ and He will forgive you the years of lunacy, ignorance, stupidity, blindness & satanism of unbelief & Blasphemy, sin, filth and foolishness; and He will raise you from the spiritual death that you languish in as He raised Lazarus from the dead by the Power of His Divinity. Otherwise, you will die as miserably as you have lived and you will go to languish in hell for all eternity with your father satan as you deserve for your blasphemies and foolishness. What a miserable waste of human existence you are. How pathetic
I am so sad for them. It's obvious on their face what's actually going on but they're in complete mental denial. Religion and belief is the most pervasive mental illness that were all in denial of.
@@kayleighgroenendal8473 if you're saying that they all seem gay, I agree with you.
Sister Jacinta is freaking adorable. I love her smile and energy.
Her energy shows 😍😍😍
Hello, Stephanie how are you doing today?
@@craigscott6443 Fuck off, Craig. Take your scam somewhere else 🥰
Catherine is a mature young woman. She is 29. She accepts the community's decision despite her disappointment. The younger girl of 23 is more flighty despite the fact that she is sure of her vocation. Her decision is a surprise - she is back for a break with her family. And she has a lovely supportive family. She is giving up a lot to become a nun. It hits home after 6 months.
Thought Catherine was 25
i dont think Klara is more flighty. I think its a HUGH order at 23 to go into a cloistered order. It's so hard to give up your family at any age. I dont know if I could do what she did and I'm more than twice her age and not keen on the remaining members of my family but its a humongous commitment for anyone to undertake.
she is now a failed UKIP candidate.
which one? and what is her full name?@@ph4780
60 Minutes / Mr. Simon / did a feature on a Greek cloistered order, years ago, and I disagreed w/ one of their practices of guarding the old bones of previously deceased members. To me, that's not Christian faith, but Goth. And, the cloistered order meant one of their elders didn't go home for the burial of his father, which I thought was selfish on his part, and not considerate of his family. Plus the order accomodated Nazi soldiers on their island during WW 2. I hope they tried to convert the Nazis instead of just letting them waltz on into their island.
I had a strong feeling the young girl would struggle without family from when she was crying in her room, and when he brother wished for her return.Interesting documentary on the whole.I used to want to be a nun as teenager but I know I couldn't cope with complete silence and no family.
Hello, Gorgeous how are you doing today?
All orders don’t require the giving up of friends and family. One can still serve god.
Fortunately, not all religious orders are strictly contemplative and cloistered.
yeah, I thought that that order wasn’t right for her as a person. She’s very sociable and warm and so she’d be able to do more to serve God if she would go out to help the poor and evangelize like the other nuns in this video.
@@anastasiya256 exactly !!
i always have a great admiration for nuns. i studied in a school ran by salesian sisters, stayed there for 12 years. the nuns would play volleyball with us during recess, would sit with us while we were doing our crochet or cross-stitch projects during lunch breaks and just talk about life and God. those were the best years of my life. God bless you all, sisters!
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
My best friend from University joined a religious order, but not an enclosed one. She can still see her friends and family whenever she wants, has a mobile phone etc., and works as a university chaplain. There are different types of convents!
What order????
Dominican. Her particular community are conservative in many ways-traditional habits, quite conservative theologically-but they’re most definitely not enclosed.
Yes so true. I find that for those sisters who are more free, life is not that difficult
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
I have two siblings who are nuns. Our aunt is also a nun and the founder of her own congregation. I grew up around nuns. The work they do with no salary at all is amazing. We have a school and a non-government foundation which includes an orphanage that has been running for more or less 15yrs now. My younger sister is still in her mid-20s and now serves as the admin of the orphanage. She organizes everything from budgeting, managing the staff and looking for donors since our orphanage depends majorly on donors. My other sister helps manage our school which is also a foundation which means it barely has any profit. The work they do for the community is on top of their prayer life and their school life since they’re still finishing university too. Being a nun does isolate you from your family but for my two siblings, we can still see them and communicate with them but most of the time they’re really busy. There is a misconception that nuns are just locked up in the monastery doing nothing. Well it depends on the type of congregation you’re in. There is a congregation that’s focused on prayer and there’s one that’s focused on mission work and many others.
I still think about being a nun, & I am 43, married & two teen daughters. If something happened to my husband I would consider it. I am named after my great aunt who was a nun. She was the head administrator of St. Josheph's Hospital in Syracuse NY & served her vocation in Hawaii - working with the Leper colony. Very admirable women. We did see her quite often - maybe once a month, but you are right they are TOO BUSY!
I need a job
I belong to the parish of Corpus Christi Leeds, I found the video amazing. The Sisters of Renewal have convent in our parish, are fully involved in parish life, welcoming and friendly.
Ever since I was a young man I have thought - if there is a God then that must be the most central impetus of my life. These young women have listened to that mystery. God bless them. It took me a bit longer; I was ordained a priest in my 50s. I’ve never been so content and full of joy. God is good!
I respect it. As a non-religious but spiritual person, I know we all come here for a reason, to grow in our own ways. And so to give your life COMPLETELY to God this way, IS a huge sacrifice..... because you're supposed to be living your life for YOU/YOUR GROWTH/EXPERIENCE. So this is almost like, a spiritual "fast track" or level up in growth (think when a honor roll A+ student in middle school gets "leveled up" to high school... that type of deal) so on a deep level, yes they are aiming to help others but ALSO to fast track or speed up their soul's growth and/or connect directly with God by devoting their OWN lives..... this is a huge sacrifice which is actually really beautiful & rare. 🙏💜💜💜💜
Same here. I can even kind of understand making such a choice, even though I'm an atheist. I once had a chat with a nun in Greece, who was still in her trial year. We had an amazing conversation about life choices, meaning and relationships.
@TBS13🇵🇭 What don’t you understand about that statement?
Spirituality can and often does exist outside of organized faith.
But hey if you find that funny, then God bless you 🙏🏼
Yes, as a spiritual but non-religious person as well, I view this as a expedited way of enlightenment and ultimately connecting with G-d daily. It's amazing really.
Wtf is spiritual xD?
Hello, Gorgeous how are you doing today?
“My children ,
It is not easy to be a nun. It is not a life of refuge from the world
It is a life of sacrifice. It is in a way , a life against nature
The sacrifices that are required of us , are only bearable if we make them with love
Just as in the world , we can do impossible things with a glad heart for a loved one ,
So it is with us. We can endure greater sacrifice for the object of our love is Our Lord , Jesus Christ “
-Edith Evans as Mother Emmanuel “The Nun’s Story “
Thank you for being a witness for the life of a nun. It is a life of sacrifice, but an important life with Jesus, and for Jesus.❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@elainegoolsby9902 it’s a quote from a film but it’s true. My family have known our local monastery of Carmelite nuns since the late 1940’s when my mom hesitantly rang their bell. The nuns have enriched our lives through their spiritual advice and prayers. Can’t repay them
My sister was in the convent for exactly one month and she was able to come out without any negative consequences. I, on the other hand, had married the year before and quickly realized that it was a mistake however, according to the Catholic Church I was stuck in that marriage. Of course, years later we got a divorce and ultimately my husband filed for an annulment which he was able to procure at a cost. 😊
You don’t take final vows until about 7 years in. Marriage is the equivalent of final vows. What matters is the promise you make.
honestly, i'm impressed by anyone choosing this kind of lifestyle, be it a christian, muslim, buddhist or pagan monk. devoting your entire self to whatever you believe in is difficult and very selfless. kudos to them
In Islam they don't have monks or nuns. People still devote themselves to God of course but Muslims are expected to be mothers, fathers, and be part of their family & community. Just you might like to know that 😊
I honestly feel that Catherine doesn’t *need* to be a nun, she’s simply yearning for a life with more meaning and fulfilment. And Clara I think will go on to be a fantastic mother- the way she is with her parents and siblings demonstrates that. God calls us in many, many different ways ❤
I see it, too. She is being called to be a wife, mother and woman of God.
I think no one but them and God can known and understand what their heart yearns for.
Who cares what YOU think about HER decision? LOL
@@ilykepink do people like you enjoy keyboard thugging?
I love how people who don’t even know these women personally are telling them what they should do with their lives . You losers need to shut up and just let them do what they think is right and what they want to do .
Cloistered would be difficult but I could definitely see myself being one of the Sisters of The Poor (or Missionary Sisters). They provide service to the poor, the elderly including housing and care, homes for the extremely sick, shelters, soup kitchens, and assist with children (teachers, camps, food, family assistance/guidance).
Sisters of the poor on my area are few and far between now, as they are an ageing population
You can try volunteering for charity organisations who help poor people. I know that lay people can also help Missionary sisters (Mother Theresa and others).
Hello, Nik how are you doing today?
Clara has the gift of a wonderful family and friends. Enjoy that gift.
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
I wish them the best and hope they find happiness. I don't understand it, but I am rooting for them.
Hello, Jamie how are you doing today?
@@craigscott6443 wassup Craig
@@craigscott6443tfff
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
It was so nice to hear the young student say that she knows nuns are usually cheerful and that it's food if God can do that. So she thinks it's nice but not for her. That's just such a mature and kind and inclusive answer.
Yes she is good child. So mature
😢😢😮
It takes a very special type of woman to be a nun. Kudos to those who choose this vocation!
It also takes a special kind of woman to live life as a wife, mother, other and maintain a prayerful life dedicated to God.
Would love an update on all 3 girls in this video.
Did the 2 girls enter?
Are they still at their Orders?
Is the 3rd Nun still in her Order?
The one who was considering the Dominicans is not there presently. She is not part of their community.
It's so easy to idealize this way of life until you've entered it and have spent a few years. It can be extremely difficult and not always fulfilling. I wish them the best!
Same applies to any other way of life. :) Look at all the couples getting divorced.
@@chris1960 That's an interesting observation! I spend most of my life as an atheist (because I agree that there's no evidence) and I became a catholic because I started to think of religion not as something that is true or false in a philosophical sense, but as a deeply gratifying practise. As a former protestant, I have the feeling that a lot of protestantism is solely based on this philosophical approach, and I totally agree with you - there is something embarrasing about this kind of philosophy. I think theology depends a lot on personal experience; you either find the evidence in you heart or you won't find it at all.
Its their choice leave them alone. Who are we to make decisions for others and judge?
@@MrMAAAAAAR2123 It's not "I'll believe it when I see it". .... Its "IF I believe it, I WILL see it"
@@pattyhansen7563 Agree
They are such better people than myself. I could never be that selfless, disciplined or peaceful. Such huge admiration and respect for the nuns x
Its not their abilty either, but Gods work within them! Dont ne discouraged, just wish it honestly and watch yourself Being changed as well in relationship with God! ❤
I have so much respect for these young ladies and for all of those who are called.
This is an older video. Clara decided to leave the convent after it did not work for her.
Haha how do you know this to be true?? Would love a follow up!
Thank god
@@andrewschafer8986I just googled what happened to Clara from young nuns and a couple articles all said she left
@@panda-rama2646 With or without religion I believe it is human nature to procreate and to be intimate with someone. I am hard pressed to believe the majority of these nuns are actually happy. on another note Jesus is a polygamist if what nuns believe is true… That is they claim to all marry Jesus.
@@andrewschafer8986😂I never thought of that but yeah that would fall under polygamy.
If you can make a decision that brings you THAT much peace, it is right. ❤
Like many girls, I always wanted to be a nun. My problem was that my family was irrelegious and HATED Catholics. By the time I sorted out that I wanted to be Christian, much less Catholic, I was in a HINDU CONVENT that emphasized a peaceful meditative life and had read many books about the Catholic saints. It hit me like a thunderbolt. But I hit several snags, first when I tried to get baptized at a huge church in Beverly Hills. The nun pulled me out of the class and said it would be YEARS before they would agree to BAPTIZE me because I had been divorced from another non-Christian. The nun was mistaken, But I did not know how to fix it and wandered away, as I didn't know a single CHRISTIAN, much less a Catholic. Eventually became Episcopalian and THEY baptized me. YEARS later, I finally entered the church when I had to retire early due to disability and now I live at home like a hermit, of sorts. I love the Catholic church but get wistful when I think about how different things could have been. But God's will be done.
I am sorry that you couldn't become a nun but I want to emphasize that the most important thing is to have your own relationship with Jesus Christ. You can read the Bible on your own and pray in the holy spirit will guide you in all things
Hi how are yu I hope yur well its said that nuns mastrubate do u believe that is true if they didn't they would go mad I assume
Religious institutions don't care about you. They are made up by men who want to control people. Like politicians. End of story. I'm sorry that they hurt you when all you wanted to do was pray, but they stood in your way.
I don't know what stopping u from being a nun...I'm starting to distance myself away from that label because of the many misconception. I'll just call myself "a girl that's under oath". Ppl always are shocked when I would tell them I'm a "nun". I don't fall in the stero types. I work a regular job, I don't live in a temple, I don't always cover my head or wear the cross. I do however always were a dress or skirt n I don't curse but who r ppl to judge. "Nuns and monks" come from all walks of life. The title ain't a substitute for perfect. Do they masturbate or still have sex? Who cares it not our business. Their human like everybody else.
Many girls?.. ? I have never, ever met one girl who thought of being a nun
Just to clarify…nuns are in the convent 24/7. Sisters are in the world serving others, teaching in catholic schools, etc.
Thank you for the clarification!
I think they're all nuns, it's just a matter of whether they're cloistered nuns or not.
@@notever_everytime5074 what is cloistered?
@Willywonka65623 cloistered nuns don't leave the convent premises. As the video discussed, a cloistered nun may only see her family and friends (at very rare intervals) behind the locked front gate of the nunnery. Nuns who are not cloistered may do chores and ministering in the world (I have some Franciscan nuns in my neighborhood, and I see them doing grocery runs at trader Joe's all the time.) So a cloistered nun must stay within the nunnery, and a regular nun may so things among "normies".
The big contrast they all seem to see is between a life of boys, partying, consumerism and eventual motherhood, OR being a nun. There are so many other options for your life that don't revolve around men, possessions or god.
For real
Amen
There are no other options
Wishing her blessings... I can't I cry 😢
Nowadays there is people who give there life for God... respect 🙏
I got so emotional watching when Clara left... I pray she is truly happy 🥰🙏
I badly want to become a nun, I am no at catholic, although I went to a catholic school. I asked God to send me a sign if he is present, and he did. I believe that God is calling me to become one, but I also want to go to MIT, because an engineer. My heart is wanting to become a nun but also go to MIT…
I wish God could give me the strength to become a nun
In my belief we are all sent to world as humans with the flesh and blood body of ours, with its obstacles. God sent us his word to show us what to do with our lives, what is best for us, he gave us responsiblities for ourselves and for the people around us.
In this world we are living as communities and society need different people for different jobs for it to function. Everyone have different roles in the society, some of us may become doctors, engineers or nuns, helping each other in our own way. One can be a believer and an engineer, although he/she may not have the same knowledge as the people who devoted themselves to God. I see the ones who devoted themselves as a help for us to get closer to the knowledge of God, as they spent more time on it they can teach us, show us sources etc.
I think the question is where do you see yourself functioning the best. As an engineer you can still follow the word of God, speak the God's words to others if they want to hear and maybe be one of the steps of others journey. Your skills as an engineer is valuable to people. This world is not just about us but about all humanity.
What about passionately serving God while also being an engineer? You don't have to become a nun or not serve God at all. God uses ordinary Christians to accomplish his will as well!
Syria needs you!
Why not become a sister (non cloistered) as well as an engineer?
I can listen to that singing all day.
I relate to the young women this documentary. I feel a calling towards volunteering work and I am happy living a simple life and feel complete helping others.
Wow! Thank you! I never thought about a simple lay life dedicated to service for Jesus. What a great idea!
We are best when we are serving others & NOT serving ourselves or expecting others to serve US. it brings out the best in us & that ripple effect goes out into humanity!
I respect this vocation. Surrender to Christ and life in community is, I believe, a precious thing. God bless you both.
🌹I love silence and being alone with God. I live alone except for my two cats and little dog. I have friends and family, but Jesus is my everything. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@elainegoolsby9902 hi how are yu I hope yur well ie I too love my own company ie do you believe nuns mastrubate it's a question I have often heard asked
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
There is a difference between being religious...and dedicating your entire life to Jesus...even more different when you join a cloister. I hope these girls realize this difference, evaluate where they belong...and THEN make their final decision!
God bless us all!⚘
What an informative program as a Christian, I love my faith but I couldn’t be away from family like these ladies. I respect their decision and I hope they are fulfilled.
Why is there so much hate in these comments ? People really hate Catholics . It’s so sad .
When you've been a victim of abuse by members of the Catholic church you'd understand why...
I know my parents did; never knew why?
Sadly, many Protestant Christians misunderstand Catholicism and Orthodoxy. I am afraid to say it, but I was once one of those....
Such a beautiful Documentary...I'm also discerning religious life
🌹Dear Linda I shall pray for you. 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
I went to Catholic school and Nuns were so important to me growing up, their discipline and kindness made me a better person.
Brainwashed!
I am glad you had that experience, my late grandmother had a completely different one, different times, I guess.
@@leontinehillenaar423I went to a school with nuns "only" 15 years ago. 1 was nice. But we feared the others way more than our teachers (except the nice one, they worked in the school but weren't teachers). 😂
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Very interesting documentary . I was only only plan to watch about two to five minutes but got hooked and kept me watching it.
This is such an extreme way of living. I’m sure not all nunneries are this extreme. It’s very culty. To cut you off from your family? That’s horrendous…
The convent the girl entered was definitely of the more extreme variety, to be totally cloistered (isolated) from the world is not how all convents work. Most Sisters (this documentary didn't explain the difference between sisters and nuns) certainly do not live cloistered lives. It's also unusual for somebody discerning religious life to go directly into a cloistered convent as the first port of call.
In Catholicism (and the few Protestant groups that still have religious orders) there's a big variation in how different religious orders live. Some have access to the Internet , are able to contact family members and are proactive in the local community.
It's also different for Orthodox nuns who aren't represented here either
@@CherryDreamer96 that's a really good point. I wish they differentiated between them. I don't think its admirable to cut yourself off from the world forever. Sounds like a cult; hiding and running away from life's inevitable challenges. I'm not against religion. But i respect the one's that actually volunteer and make change in the community.
This is a very good and emotional documentary. God bless the sisters!✝
I think becoming a nun IS kind of a career.
I agree. I think it's also more than just a career. I'd call it a lifestyle choice, if lifestyle weren't such a lame word.
It's an easy career too
It is a vocation. Something they choose to do in order to serve God.
@@Liitebulb if you think abstaining from sex, living in poverty, asking for permission to do everything for the rest of your life, not using phones or having access to social media is an “easy career” then you’re crazy.
Hello, Christina how are you doing today?
I was educated in a Catholic School..just loved it..they were times past and compared to the times we're in now it was heaven on Earth!
🌹Amen!❤️
😮 when abouts was this?
Being 23 years old and taking lifelong vows that mean never being able to hug your mother again in your earthy life is just unfathomable to me.
The sisters in the community near me do get to hug their mothers! One of the first 'tasks' I was asked to perform was to entertain a man and his wife as they didn't speak French, they were the parents of one of our Australian sisters and were staying in accommodation at the convent to spend some time with their daughter. They were then going to Germany to spend time with their son who was in a seminary, training to become a priest.
Yes, there are 'issues', naturally, when their children were young they had expected them to get married, have children of their own, give their parents grandchildren, and realising that was not going to happen does create stresses. Life can be like that, some people have children who go in different directions that spoil their aspirations.
Being a nun is certainly not for everyone, but the nuns I mix with have a greater family, have peace and are free from many of the stresses that we all put ourselves through. Imagine being free of having to worry about what to wear every day!
@harryfaber That's great! In many cloistered orders (including the one in the doc, it seems), the visits are only through a metal grille, though.
even though i don't share their believes, Nuns are some of the most humble people on earth.
They were also the most awful people on earth. The way they abused children and young single mothers. There are 800 babies they buried in a septic tank in Tuam Ireland, thrown away like rubbish. That is the truth it was uncovered by a local historian.
@@annmoles3584 Yes.. i'm aware the Catholic church has a very Dark History.
Wow. So admirable as a Christian woman striving for God this way. I remember wanting to be a nun as a kid but more also. Now, I am so much more and some of the things show me God IS The Meme Lord. 😆
Lol! 😂
The Lord of hosts is also the Lord of memes! 😂
As as an atheist I have to say that I hold great respect for those who choose to follow their faith in peace, including those who take the vows of priesthood, sisterhood and brotherhood. It is tough to see them go through what they do, but it is necessary in order to understand the realities of the choices people make and the sacrifices that come with them.
The community based convent rather than the silent convent seems like a better choice for both girls. Then again, who am I to judge... 🙏🏼
I just don’t get the being shut away element. Isn’t part of doing God’s work getting out to the community and helping people?
They believe their work lies wholly in prayer. They pray for the world, receive letters and even phone calls from all kinds of people who ask for them to pray on their behalf. Depends on if you believe in the power of prayer, I suppose
🌹Cloistered nuns live in Community, and best of all Jesus is with them. They have plenty to do, as well as to.e praying. Prayer is so important. Just think, they are praying for you, and for the whole world. You may not have the time, or want to pray for long periods of time daily, but they pray because they want to, and they are are joyful in this important work. Didn't Jesus frequently go off by Himself to pray? 🙏
I understand cloistered nuns, but surely it would be better to join uncloistered nuns, who still dedicte their lives to God but help in the community, and you can see their habits around the place?
Thanks a lot for this awesome movie.for now,I got covid positive and I wondered I couldn't sleep no matter what to do so I decided to wore sunglasses while watching this inspiring movie and it makes me more emotional for it was my dream when I was young to become a nun but then I failed..praying for my daughter though its impossible because she's stubborn for i am an OFW for 2decades and I'm not with them to guide them but we never know what lies her future for God always surprises us.
The smallest order seem to be exclusionary. What about postulancy for the blonde girl? I thought (as a non-Catholic) that being a novice and/or entering the postulancy is a way to help women know for sure whether God is truly calling them to a lifetime commitment. If I were her, I would explore other communities.
She didn’t seem ready though. If it’s the right calling it won’t go away after a year. 🙂
@@agathles that's true if it is gods will it then she will become a sister.
Hello, Maggie how are you doing today?
Clara should definitely try an Abby that isn't strictly cloistered. It's insane that she would never ever step out their doors again or really see her family for the rest of her life.
@@noorrougelewis6704 These nuns could make such a difference in the World, if they actually knew what was going on out here! Being Cloistered helps nobody, just repetitiously reciting meaningless pre- learnt Prayers . I think a lot of little girls think they want to be a Nun. I know I did and I'm not Catholic ( I'd watched the Sound of Music 😂😂) In reality , being Cloistered forever is no life., in just my opinion. I HAVE grown up believing Strongly in Jesus, though, and my Faith is so important in my life. So, I guess , we all experience that Faith in different ways, and hope these nuns are at Peace and happy in their choice
I envy nuns and monks. It takes incredible willpower to throw away everything for God.
Except you aren’t “throwing everything away” and the kind of sacrifices required depends on the order/convent.
A couple of weeks ago, my mother and i were at Joann (fabrics and crafting), we saw a nun there.
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 she was a sister then, not a nun
@@jassminetk is the stick up your axx that comfy?
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 what? I just said she was a sister, not a nun. Calm down
@@jassminetk i am calm.
Teachers, Nurses & Nuns are all a special type of person 💕🥰❣️They have a special calling❣️ I was raised by parents that were BOTH teachers & I learned very early on that it takes a VERY special person to be that person 💕❣️ Thank you to ALL OF YOU🥰💕❣️ God Bless You ✝️💕❣️
Two of those three like to strike alot, you cant tar a Nun with that brush sorry.
I always thought life as a nun would be really interesting! It always seemed so quiet and serene.
When you think about it only two days a year is about 100 visiting days, it’s a great sacrifice and I commend the families for their support 😊
When I considered entering the convent, not wearing simple foundation was a definite and surprising stumbling block 😂 we don’t realize how attached we are to certain vanities until…
1 Timothy 4
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and 👉doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3👉 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
This was super interesting, as a former Catholic. My question, though, is why didn't Clara join an apostolic order so she could see her family and friends and be in the community? She looked like she'd have gotten along with the sisters who were out being of service to the community. Being cloistered was just too much for her, as it probably is the vast majority of people.
I saw the old film, A Nun's Story and I actually thought about it. There is something kinda fascinating about living this kind of life.
These women are brilliant.
1 hour a year? Sounds like a human rights violation. Another deeply bizarre dilemma is the fact that removing her from contact with her friends and family would deprive them of emotional support which would normally be central to Christian ethics.
But it’s a life freely chosen. Most people today can’t comprehend sacrifice. It’s interesting that the abbey is flourishing, even as many of the active orders who have abandoned the habit are dying out.
It's not a human rights violation. Nobody is forced or kept against their will. For some, it will be a life they love, and they have their sisters within the community for both friends and family. It just depends on what is best for each individual.
@@FabricofTime indeed, as a point of law it is not a breach of any such Article where the third party involved is not a State, notwithstanding the fact that it would be hard to imagine even a repressive regime subjecting its subjects to the abandonment of their loved ones. Suffice to say, it remains the case that the principles of Christian prayer can exist in a modern society without recourse to restrict anyones freedom to remain in touch with family and loved ones. Indeed, it could also be said that to require an individual to abandon contact with loved ones is in itself contrary to acceptable standards of behaviour and christian morality where some might also view the abandonment of family and loved ones as being an act of cruel selfishness where the beliefs of an individual should never be at cost of inflicting pain and suffering upon others where it might otherwise be avoided without prejudice to the act of prayer in itself - as any impartial person would be the first to agree
“If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple”
- Luke 14:26
Monks and nuns take this and other sayings of Jesus regarding abandoning lands and property in a more literal way. They sacrifice the legitimate pleasures of life: having one’s own wealth and using it, being able to be their own master, and enjoying the pleasures of sexuality and having a family for God. Also, not all orders are the same. Contemplative orders whose focus is on seclusion and prayer will naturally give less contact to the outside world than active orders whose focus is charitable work. Generally also, less time is given to novices because they need to adjust to the more secluded life of a nun. Older and more trusted nuns are given a bit more leeway since they have attained a higher level of discipline. On the downside, the higher you are, the harder it is to leave in good standing. Novices who have taken no vows can leave easily. Those who have taken temporary vows can wait till they expire. Those who take solemn or permanent vows must appeal to Rome for them to be dispensed from the vows.
@@ImpartiallySpeaking We are told in the Bible to cast off family, riches, unbelievers, spouses, etc...They can be a hindrance
What happens if a woman realizes after 10 or 20 years that it's not this path isn't for her? I genuinely want to know. Getting the call from God and seriously sticking to the path of a nun. Yet, deciding to reverse must be a weird and difficult decision.
Question about Clara and Catherine, what happens if the nunnery they speak or try out with is not the right one. Could they go on to another one to see if she can enter another one?
You can leave anytime. I know nuns and priest that have. I did also know a nun that changed different orders. Remember your serving one God Just the orders are different and their style of service. Some orders service via just praying, some education, some healthcare, some do missionary work in serving the poor.
You can leave, nobody is held against their will. You certainly wouldn't want to spend every day of your life living with somebody who didn't want to be there ... People leaving religious life I more common than you may think. Some people leave to join different orders, Some leave and go on to marry, and some may leave and then return when they are older
Yes, you can leave, that is why they give 5 or more years to discern before final vows. It's not easy , to enter, it's not easy to leave...
You can leave, just Like in marriage, but its a free choice in a first place and you are giving final od eternal vows after 5 or so years of discernment...si leaving after that happened would never be pleasing to God, just Like it is never pleasing to divorce after you have vowed before God - in good and evil, till death separates us. God takes that seriously, unfortunately People too often do not. We forget the part "in hard Times" and that times will always come for us to show that we meant for real. With Gods help its possible!
27:41 i’m glad she realized before it was too late. I’m very proud, I bet that decision was very difficult.
I dare say I don't know where we'd all be without the pure and giving prayers who give themselves totally to Christ...Thank You sisters.. And God bless you all !...❤
A lot of nuns don’t do nothing like there were a lot of nuns in my church who helped teach kids who struggled math my principal was a nun not all nuns pray 24/7 there is still stuff they can do
It depends whether the Order is a Closed, contemplative one or an active one.
I don't understand the reason behind not having contact with family and friends..... to me, that's sad.
My friend became a nun by accident. She was supposed to be going on a hen party to Alicante and filled in the wrong form at passport control. She didn't even realise for a week because, as she said "we were supposed to be doing a themed escape room and meditation retreat so it all made sense at first." Anyway, she decided to stay there and is now know as Sister Extravaganza.
This made me laugh. Sister extravaganza. Some people will read it and think it real 😂.
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I would 100% do this if I believed in God. No rent. No bills. No real adulting. What could be better than helping people while being completely taken care of?
Have to agree with you there A bit pointless really if God made the world why on earth can't they enjoy it. I would feel like it's a sin living like this
@@alexdyter8237I am a Christian and I actually think you've made a good point. Besides, the early followers of Jesus didn't live like this and they were the ones who knew Jesus. Instead, they went throughout the world and talked about Jesus and didn't portent work. And they certainly enjoyed spending time with their families although I'm sure they had to give up some of that as they were traveling. God never instructed us to not enjoy the world, he made it specifically for humans with us in mind.
@somethinggood9267 Churches do the exact same thing they make it seem like you can't live a life without a church, which is simply not true, then they make up random rules what you should and shouldn't do
I wonder how many nuns & priests join for this reason. To escape poverty, social anxiety, or - especially in the case of women who joined very closed orders of nuns - fear of men. To avoid being assaulted (something we have to take subconscious steps to avoid evvery day) or escape social pressures to marry & have kids. Asexual or lesbian women.
@@bogantellectual I think a lot of families with kids who are a little bit off try to push their kids towards that lifestyle, too.
I want to cry inside my heart and still try to get everything fixed to calm everyone.
They look like so happy.I would like to live this experience 🌸
I considered this at one time in my life. I went to a Catholic college and spent some time with Franciscan Nuns and stayed at the Mother House for a few nights. I quickly realized that was not the life for me. So much so, that I am now agnostic.
You sound just like me. I went to a Catholic college. Went to visit the Franciscan sisters in the the States and then Italy. I loved it. Felt a huge belonging and thought a calling. But after spending time came to realize it wasn't for me. It can be a beautiful life of service for some.
@@gina9171 you get 'called' to do it, not so much make a decision to do it. that is why it is not the life for everyone.
I wanted to be a nun and prayed and fasted and prayed some more. My answer was not to be a nun. My ministry is being a wife and mother. I’m so happy that God lead me to understand that. I’m overjoyed that there are women who are still making commitment to the church and holy life.
I think it is disrespectful that her family can only visit 2x a year and no phone calls, that is not fair on the family, especially the parents that brought her into the world and sacrificed to raise her.
I never understood the people, who talk about how there has to be more to life and lock themselves inside a single ideology surrounded by physical walls and other people who are going through the same existential crisis as you are.
It almost seem like an extreme form incompetence.
🎉We'll done girls. Keep spreading the Word. God bless you all full of His grace 🙏👏👏
I had a garden when I was growing up. One day, I harvested the garden and put it all away in the refrigerator. My father came home from work, and said First Fruits must go to the convent across our church and the parish priest. My father called our priest and the convent, saying we're coming and delivering First Fruits.
Honestly, I though about it when I was about 12...reviewing my life now, I think I should have done it. I have great memories, but I past my life being hurt. Sometimes, I think it would have been a better life to be protected from this wild, understandble life we are living right now.
I have to say i think it is extremly interesting to watch them. I can relate in some points of living a life in a close community as a soldier and choosing an unusual path of life. But it’s not the same. Very good educational and interesting video.
I've seen this documentary probably 5 times since it was first aired on TV here in 2009 and have never been able to find any kind of update.
What a good witness those Franciscan Sisters are
I went to a healing service at church on Sunday and it was absolute rubbish. Even the guy in the wheelchair got up and walked out.
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Does anyone know what happened to these two girls? I wonder if Clara ever went back and if Catherine was able to join her order the next year? If this was 2011 and it’s been 13 years, I’m really curious to see where life took them after this documentary xx
They don't show what life is like as a nun, though. They talked about two people who were considering joining, but very little about actual monastic life.
When was the original air date of this program episode?
2005
If I was to be a nun, it would be like the ones in Call the midwife, not shut off from society but right in their middle, and my family still being in the picture
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Convents aren't prisons, and the nuns aren't prisoners. The cloistered sisters are devoted to prayer and practical life. The missionary sisters are in the world. I love and respect people, men and women, who dedicate themselves to God in that singular way. But there are people who dedicate themselves to simple lives of service without taking vows except to God.
Thank you all for your service. You radiate light to your families and others. Your sacrifice is so wonderful and powerful. I take great encouragement from seeing such beauty and I praise God. Lord bless you and keep you always make his face shine upon yiu be gracious to you and give you his peace
The person who gives up the joys and pleasures of the world and becomes a monk is a very strong person. I cried at Clara’s strength when she spoke with joy.
On the outside, I can’t help but think - what do your have to offer anyone but yourself and your own spiritual enhancement. It takes away a lot of purpose to life, but that’s just me.
Do we know what happened to Clara? Hope she happy whatever she is doing these days .
That would be interesting to know, it was good that the Convent gave her indefinite leave. They may have sensed her doubts or her struggle to be away from her family. She has a vibrant personality that might just be too big for the quiet life.
Its a great commitment to become a nun. But to leave all your family and friends is not a good thing. Even Jesus himself interacted with his family and his friends his disciples were his friends. One of his best friends died, Lazarus, and yet Jesus brought him back to life. I personally dont think Jesus will is to leave family and friends.