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@@IdkElliot analysis bot is stock fish lol, dont talk if you dont know, it gets better moves bc it analises longer and possibily has stockfish 17 or more on
I hope one day I can see an engine vs an engine video without seeing 90% of the comments repeating the same joke about stockfish classifying its moves an inaccuracy. Like enough!!😲😲
A brilliant move is a really good sacrifice that can be the the best move but doesn't have to be a best move. A great move is the only good move in a position or a hard to find move that isn't necessarily the best.
@@danielchmielewski8568 black didn't have an advantage, he was holding on for a draw. In that position sacrificing the rook is the only (I think) move that keeps the position drawn for black, hence why it is brilliant
@@AyushTH Hi! I am intrigued by your comment! Can you please elaborate what you mean with "sf" and "us"? Is this what you meant to say: "If Stockfish only has one ms per move it's going to play terrible" ?
@@Saymon9788 I think that these moves are the best moves and because of that chess pro players need to know these moves , that because they are all book moves. But still too many book moves
@@MuhammmadAdib more precisely: Ruy Lopez: Marshall, Main line, Spassky Variation 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Be3 Bg4 16.Qd3 Rae8 17.Nd2 Re6 18.a4 Qh5 also yes this IS the actual name (it does include the moves too which makes it officially the longest opening ig)
@@alexandrosipov4186 Many people believe that there is a forced checkmate from the very beginning of the game for white due to its first move advantage. And no matter how black plays, there is a way for white to win. There is no evidence or mathematical proof, but we can see that more people win their games with white than black.
@@Saymon9788 I'm speaking obvious. in the endgame white had materiel advantage even if ended in a draw. This obviously proofs white has technical advantages in chess games tho it's not worth arguing you
@@rishabvaid2059 There clearly wasn't any leverage for white despite the material imbalance, if stockfish could've won it would've. More material doesn't mean a better position.
@enpassantcheckmate no it's not. A millisecond is a thousands of a second regardless of where you are. 1/100 of a second is a santisesond. 1/10 is a decisecond. If I'm not right, give me a source
@@enpassantcheckmate It's very very simple: 1 second 1 decisecond = 1/10th of a sec 1 centisecond = 1/100th 1 millisecond = 1/1000th 1 microsecond = 1/1,000,000th 1 nanosecond = 1/1,000,000,000th etc. Some people wrongly say 1 millisecond when they actually mean decisecond or centisecond. Now you know.
In the first game I know it's probably a table base draw, but I'm sueprised at the lack of moving the queen for defense. He's up two pawns, if he can force a trade of queens that is major advantage. Of course stockfish probably wouldn't make the mistake of allowing something like that though
@@EggReviewer because 'best' opening is objective to human's way of calculating positions. Stockfish just thinks like 50 moves ahead and chooses the best move it thinks of. I'm pretty sure stockfish plays the Ruy Lopez
If it’s stockfish vs stockfish why isn’t every move the best move? Like which engine is evaluating these moves? Or does the evaluating stockfish have a deeper depth? Also 11/10 music choice
The engine evaluating gets far longer time to evaluate it, The entire game was played in a 100 ms format (Ultrabullet on crack). The multipv thing just means that it uses max engine lines, usually stockfish uses a method to select which lines is better to evaluate.
The same engine doesn't play always the same move after a certain amount of time. There are things like "hash tables" which contain a small random component.
Will future stockfish engines likely be able to defeat this stockfish 16 engine? Like what if you put stockfish 10 or something (an older version) against this one, does white win sometimes, does black win, do they still draw? A lot of people are saying perfect play is a draw but this engine probably isn't playing as perfect as a solved chess engine would play right? A solved chess engine vs a solved chess engine could be an automatic win or loss for white instead of a draw.
Engine vs an engine = draw. Because all of the engines are nearly playing perfect play. But these engines fights are being faked in the first few moves so the match will be unbalanced a bit that there will be a disparity.
@@enpassantcheckmateThat's right, stockfish comes with droidfish because I'm using droidfish to play, but in my opinion, it's better to download it from the stockfish homepage.
@@Chomta Look at the left stockfish in the thumbnail. There is 1 brilliant and 2 great moves in it. Does that mean there are 1 brilliant and 2 great moves in the first game
its come to this.... getting 3800 elo 2024AD engines to behave like 2300 elo engines from the mid 1990s... otherwise they draw 1000s of games even when dodgy openings are forced.
You wasted compute time by setting MultiPV greater than 1. This option is useful for human analysis (i.e. you need to visualize evaluated moves). Without visualization you just ask stockfish to spend part of time to evaluate obviously bad moves (how to self-mate), and throw the result of these calculations away.
Chess is so complex that it can potentially survive the human civilisation. It can't be solved in near future of at least millions of years even by super technology quantum computers. Unlikely to be solved in future. We do have 7 piece endgame solved and will have 8 piece too in some years. But it is exponential time problem.
How much time did you give them, how much memory and processor cores have you allocated for calculating moves? And did you use a fast version of stockfish or a slow one?
Chees isn't solved though. If this stockfish 16 is playing perfectly, does that mean it will always draw against a perfect stockfish 22? Does it draw against a perfect stockfish 12? How do you know stockfish 16 is playing perfectly is my question
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Fishes ended inna draw . It is very wise
One of best games
Stockfish: makes a move
Also stockfish: that could’ve been better..
That is because they give the bot only a 100 ms to make a move so the engine can’t think about there move
@@Froglet76but look, almost every move was perfect, they are more than capable of making a good move in under 100 ms
@@Cibates Yeah, but the bot isnt perfect, itll make a bad (which isnt even that bad) move with that short amount of time
@@Froglet76 i must. *their
its because Stockfish was force to make non drew moves
I love how highest rated bots are making moves and analysis engine be like: "Hmmm... I'd rather move here"
"Analysis Engine" had more time evaluating the position so obviously it can point out the slight errors made by stockfish which had 0.1 sec per move
@@phonex6918 more like likely stockfish finding things the analysis bot didn't
@@IdkElliot oh maybe it had more time so thats why🤓The "Analysis Bot" is also stockfish for your knowledge
@@phonex6918 nope the analysis bot in browser is not as accurate as stockfish engine...
@@IdkElliot analysis bot is stock fish lol, dont talk if you dont know, it gets better moves bc it analises longer and possibily has stockfish 17 or more on
Every brilliant and great move because yes:
0:45 g6
0:56 bxg6
4:18 ke3
4:27 bxf5
4:43 kd6
4:51 nd7
5:47 rg4
5:57 re2+
6:09 rd7+
6:12 rc7+
6:14 rd7+
6:16 rc7+
6:25 c2
6:36 ka1
The analysis: 🗿
Brother?
:0 what are you doing here?
Buddy forgot about 3:29
stockfish is smarter than the evaluation ai
@@TylerBerry-s8x and that AI is in fact stockfish💀
6:35 - Damn, bro
@@vladislav_artyukhov yep if white take its draw
@@vladislav_artyukhov that’s a blunder right???
couldnt white have taken the pawn there?
that would basically open doors for checkmate
@@NotScouty if they take it will stalemate
@@NotScouty fr 400 elo
Both Stockfish be like: Hold on for a second! How are you reading my mind ?
I hope one day I can see an engine vs an engine video without seeing 90% of the comments repeating the same joke about stockfish classifying its moves an inaccuracy. Like enough!!😲😲
Never knew moves made to result in a draw (despite having advantage) would be shown as "great" or "brilliant".
A brilliant move is a really good sacrifice that can be the the best move but doesn't have to be a best move. A great move is the only good move in a position or a hard to find move that isn't necessarily the best.
@@danielchmielewski8568 black didn't have an advantage, he was holding on for a draw. In that position sacrificing the rook is the only (I think) move that keeps the position drawn for black, hence why it is brilliant
Yo congrats on 800!
Wth? StockFish was use 12 book moves, I wasn't ever seen that
englishn't
@@_Gam3r si seÑor, no hablo inglés, pero se entiende lo que quiero decir
Have used 12 theory movements*
@@frezer_492 u cant do english
Neither can you
I still probably couldn’t beat them even if they have 1 millisecond of time for each move 😅
Try a nanosecond
@@KenKenston still no lol
@@yifansun2596 if sf only has one us per move its gonna play terrible.
@@AyushTH oh.
@@AyushTH Hi! I am intrigued by your comment!
Can you please elaborate what you mean with "sf" and "us"?
Is this what you meant to say: "If Stockfish only has one ms per move it's going to play terrible" ?
analysis thinks he is better 💀
like if you support gay🙌
@@Saymon9788 ft
@@Saymon9788 I think that these moves are the best moves and because of that chess pro players need to know these moves , that because they are all book moves. But still too many book moves
I was looking for this comment.
@@ИльяКостюшин-ю2ь it's Ruy Lopez, it has analyzed so deep that it has a lot variation
@@MuhammmadAdib more precisely:
Ruy Lopez: Marshall, Main line, Spassky Variation
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Be3 Bg4 16.Qd3 Rae8 17.Nd2 Re6 18.a4 Qh5
also yes this IS the actual name (it does include the moves too which makes it officially the longest opening ig)
0:30 Book Move Streak Ended
It's like Vision debating white Vision in that Wanda episode.
One day, stockfish will solve the chess
I already solve chess
What do you mean "solve"?
@@alexandrosipov4186
Many people believe that there is a forced checkmate from the very beginning of the game for white due to its first move advantage. And no matter how black plays, there is a way for white to win. There is no evidence or mathematical proof, but we can see that more people win their games with white than black.
@@alexandrosipov4186 possibility in chess is incredibly huge, but it's not infinite
@axzphere03 Yeah, just like tic-tac-toe
The analysis: 📖👍🏽⭐️!!
Great music timing
These two games were so beautiful
Did you know that the beat of the music is slightly off with the moves?
Man thank you I'd like if you can to do them couple times
White had more materiel... this proofs that white has advantage
What? If u don't know chess don't talk
@@Saymon9788 I'm speaking obvious. in the endgame white had materiel advantage even if ended in a draw. This obviously proofs white has technical advantages in chess games tho it's not worth arguing you
@rishabvaid2059 it's true that white have a bit more advantage, but it's still pretty low
@@rishabvaid2059 Dumbo like you should stick to checkers.
@@rishabvaid2059 There clearly wasn't any leverage for white despite the material imbalance, if stockfish could've won it would've. More material doesn't mean a better position.
Great content ... i love your videos
3:35 how he eat him on c6?
İf u play 2 square-1 square on pawn and opponent play 2 square it means you can eat crosswise like normal pawn
This only time evaluation baar doesn't fluctuate
The little green checks and thumbs up is basically the meme of obama giving an award to himself.
1ms (100ms)?? what do you mean by that?
the time per move is 100ms or what?
@@daesmua -In the uk, 1ms is equal to 1/10th of a second but in the us, 1ms is equal to 1/1000th of a second-
@enpassantcheckmate no it's not. A millisecond is a thousands of a second regardless of where you are. 1/100 of a second is a santisesond. 1/10 is a decisecond. If I'm not right, give me a source
@@dmytrotsvyntarnyi799 I searched it up and looks like there's no difference lmao
@@enpassantcheckmate It's very very simple:
1 second
1 decisecond = 1/10th of a sec
1 centisecond = 1/100th
1 millisecond = 1/1000th
1 microsecond = 1/1,000,000th
1 nanosecond = 1/1,000,000,000th
etc.
Some people wrongly say 1 millisecond when they actually mean decisecond or centisecond. Now you know.
@@KrynexYT thanks
2:30 how much check is that?!?
I never got that many book moves in my life dude
Lol same
I didnt even know that u can make that many book moves😅
Omg that was a lot of book moves
In the first game I know it's probably a table base draw, but I'm sueprised at the lack of moving the queen for defense. He's up two pawns, if he can force a trade of queens that is major advantage. Of course stockfish probably wouldn't make the mistake of allowing something like that though
why doesnt black play the sicillian if its the best opening for black after e4?
@@EggReviewer because 'best' opening is objective to human's way of calculating positions. Stockfish just thinks like 50 moves ahead and chooses the best move it thinks of. I'm pretty sure stockfish plays the Ruy Lopez
3:37 What's this?
@@janganene en passant
Those where the weirdest move books ever
Stock fish is becoming stock leviathan
You missed the oportunity to synk the music to the moves since there is a set interval between moves and the music is very close to the same bpm. x'D
Let's wait stockfish 17 next
Legend has it hearted comments are brilliant.
The amount of book moves though💀
If it’s stockfish vs stockfish why isn’t every move the best move? Like which engine is evaluating these moves? Or does the evaluating stockfish have a deeper depth? Also 11/10 music choice
Engine that does the evaluating is a weaker form of stockfish
The engine evaluating gets far longer time to evaluate it, The entire game was played in a 100 ms format (Ultrabullet on crack). The multipv thing just means that it uses max engine lines, usually stockfish uses a method to select which lines is better to evaluate.
@@deadratjr No, in this case stockfish was given 100 milliseconds, or 0.1 seconds per move so it played quite inaccurately.
The same engine doesn't play always the same move after a certain amount of time. There are things like "hash tables" which contain a small random component.
Try stock fish vs stockfish but give one 1ms to think and the other unlimited
I can't believe they can play this normal
bro if the music was different i would have believed that this is a 500 elo game. Its like these bots have gone full circle
3:37 EN PASSANT (!!)
I have never seen more than 3 book moves in a game
The green arrow
Will future stockfish engines likely be able to defeat this stockfish 16 engine? Like what if you put stockfish 10 or something (an older version) against this one, does white win sometimes, does black win, do they still draw? A lot of people are saying perfect play is a draw but this engine probably isn't playing as perfect as a solved chess engine would play right? A solved chess engine vs a solved chess engine could be an automatic win or loss for white instead of a draw.
Stockfish 10 vs Stockfish 16.1 would mostly be a draw with some occasional wins for Stockfish 16.1
Engine vs an engine = draw. Because all of the engines are nearly playing perfect play. But these engines fights are being faked in the first few moves so the match will be unbalanced a bit that there will be a disparity.
Perhaps sometimes there are exceptions and white is the winner
anyone know why black queen didnt take bishop (0:36)
@@akhin6273It would be mate in 1
If white goes QE8
@@akhin6273 would be instant mate by white queen
Brillant Move Stockmove, "I know I know!" Stockfish
Stockfish analyzed the game between stockfish and stockfish while suggesting better moves 🗿
why is the location at mcdonalds?
He did the stupidity at the end.
@@श्री_राम_जी I Agree
6:02 here Qc4 is better. Black cannot save his pawn and also white get to attack first.
Is 16.1 one is available on Android in app from or drodifish
I am not sure if droidfish comes with stockfish but you can download stockfish externally at stockfishchess.org/download
@@enpassantcheckmateThat's right, stockfish comes with droidfish because I'm using droidfish to play, but in my opinion, it's better to download it from the stockfish homepage.
He is going to use that during games.
Stock fish got an inaccuracy?!!!!!
Wanna do a collab
3:37 why is the pawn gone?
en passant
@@enpassantcheckmate doesn't en passant is illegal?
@ nope
Chess played perfectly...is always a draw.
Wait, isn’t the amount of brilliants and greats in the 1st stockfish the amount of brilliants and greats in the 1st game?
I don't know?
What are you saying??
@@Chomta Look at the left stockfish in the thumbnail.
There is 1 brilliant and 2 great moves in it.
Does that mean there are 1 brilliant and 2 great moves in the first game
@@yifansun2596 ohh, now I get it. Idk maybe they made the thumbnail attractive rather than relating to the game.
What even was the second game
its come to this.... getting 3800 elo 2024AD engines to behave like 2300 elo engines from the mid 1990s... otherwise they draw 1000s of games even when dodgy openings are forced.
?
Nobody as ever had to clarify AD when talking about 2024 😂
@@19hun He is an alien, there we got him!😂
In both games white had an advantage
"A perfect game of chess ends in a draw"
wth? 1ms (100ms)? you mean 0.1s (100ms) right?
This could actually be funny. There's a 6 MB version and a 66
what?
You wasted compute time by setting MultiPV greater than 1. This option is useful for human analysis (i.e. you need to visualize evaluated moves). Without visualization you just ask stockfish to spend part of time to evaluate obviously bad moves (how to self-mate), and throw the result of these calculations away.
That was the point, to see how well it performs with this great computational load
Chess is so complex that it can potentially survive the human civilisation.
It can't be solved in near future of at least millions of years even by super technology quantum computers.
Unlikely to be solved in future.
We do have 7 piece endgame solved and will have 8 piece too in some years.
But it is exponential time problem.
Song name?
In the description
Someone said “ ultraBullet on crack” 100ms is crazy
if you can survive a 15 moves against a 4K elo stockfish, then you're worth continuing playing chess
Ya van por los 4 mil de elo?
How do we play this? Is it that 3200 bot?
Nope, it is stockfish, you can download stockfish at stockfishchess.org/
Quiero el link del analisis de esta partida.
How much time did you give them, how much memory and processor cores have you allocated for calculating moves? And did you use a fast version of stockfish or a slow one?
For time, it is in the title and memory and cores used are written in the description, as well as stockfish.
What is this opening!?
ruy lopez
thank you!
6:36 white should have taken pawn then they would have won the game
No, that's stalemate
@@mininaturedocumentaries5861 oh yeah you're right. I guess it's a draw either way then.
i'm only 150 elo, but isn't 0:42 mate in 1 if you capture with the queen?
@@saveyourselfUTG white in check ( forced to take the bishop)
Wouldn’t the king just take back?
@@Unknownuserhtps its defended by the bishop the king cant take
why it cant be 100 acculuty
black truly loves repetition
If accuracy is calculated by stockfish himself, how come he does not always give 100%? Like he does not play the best move on purpose?
Three words:
Hardware, Time, Inconsistency
Imagine if u give them 5 seconds per move !!
Во второй партии белые отказались от пата, выбрав вместо этого ничью. Даже у стокфиша есть честь
Esto es una pelea de monstruos jajajajaja
Spoiler: Stockfish won
6:36 oha amk çok iyi hamle
a game played perfectly always ends in a draw
Chees isn't solved though. If this stockfish 16 is playing perfectly, does that mean it will always draw against a perfect stockfish 22? Does it draw against a perfect stockfish 12? How do you know stockfish 16 is playing perfectly is my question
White should be a weaker engine and black should be strongest engine to even playing field and understand how stockfish reacts /plays
Nah cuz how good is the analysis engine, able to point out stockfishs mistakes
When you realize that the analysis can be the one making the mistakes
3:29 ☠️
Pls Song name
In the description
SF has 4k elo for FRC, not classical chess.
There is no point to show it FRC rating, until u show FRC games
What's FRC?
@@giovannifrrri5495Fischer random chess
Nobody is really checking, and most of the other videos use an even more inaccurate elo rating
What is MultiPV?
increasing MultiPV makes Stockfish analyze the more best moves, so max MultiPV makes stockfish analyze every possible move.
@@enpassantcheckmate so, is increasing the MultiPV makes the engine stronger?
@@justhenri478 no, opposite
@@enpassantcheckmate How (assuming we have a quantum computer to process)?
@@SweetCat99 higher multipv makes the engine compute multiple different moves to show (assuming multipv is set to 5) the top 5 moves.
Why at 6:35 doesn’t it take the pawn? It’s game over if it takes the pawn. Makes no sense.
@@Tylerjms7 stalemate bruh
Stalemate
Put em against alpha zero
...
how?
Why queen no c2? 6:36
draw by drowning
Bruh@@eternal_peace1
En passant existed? No way no wonder why it was inaccurate
@@Idea_de_big what?
@@enpassantcheckmate one of the games there was an mistake made by the bots
@ what if it was a mistake by the analysis engine?
@@enpassantcheckmate I have 400 elo in chess how should I know
Bu ilovami yo boshqa narsami stockfish
4:32 "?" ☠☠☠☠☠